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The Ghost Monument edition

doesn't know who Angstrom or Epzo are: >>116347


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First for Jodie Doctor is CUTE!!!!!


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40 minutes to go. I was planning in doing something actually productive today but I’ve just been here the whole time. Oh well.


It will be possible to watch episode LIVE on CWS!

There will be Iplayers captions (which are a bit distracting) but sometimes there just isn't another way.



Still doing this, huh?


Good night of telly. The Chase at 7, X Factor at 8 and The Cry at 9.



are you me?













Would you just fuck off? There isn't one single other person on this board who wants to see your posts. You've been told a handful of times by a handful of people that exact thing, in far politer terms - one of whom is counting the posts you make as a chart of your weirdness. Your refusal to get the message is arguably weirder than your obsession. Stop posting this perversion that people here don't want to see and, if possible, get over this, because it really isn't healthy.






>Judy’s an Angstrom

Of fucking course


If Lis Sladen never died, how many seasons would SJA have gone? Would it eventually peter out after a few more years, or would it have still aired to this day with Sarah Jane and her latest son Walker?


it's never to late to go to the right side


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Doing a template for this cover. Does anyone know where I can find a HQ png of the Tom Baker Logo or what font is being used here?



He does it on 4chan as well, imagine doing this shit on TWO separate websites.


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Yeah? Well maybe I don't play by the rules.



The worst part is he’s going to have more and more material to work with as Series 11 progresses.


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Noth when?



I can see it going to like series 7-ish before wrapping up, alternatively it might have gone to 10-and-beyond with a new group of kids being cycled in.



Spiders in Sheffield


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Reminder that Epzo is labour.








angstrom's a tory




>March 2015

Okay but hes not turned into one of those guys who dramatically abandoned Labour because it went TOO far left, has he?


I look at Epzo and can only see that probation worker from the shit seasons of Misfits.




2011 was such a bad year for Doctor Who. LisSladen dies. Nicholas Courtney dies. Miracle Day. Show gets a season gap.



Okay, okay. I was just trying to make a new meme. I'm sorry I annoyed you guys. I will delete my post to show I'm serious!



Every year since 2010 has been a bad year for Doctor Who desu. Except for 2018.



Bleat at us when it's about to start!




>Hand on heart everyone. Regardless of your EU stance or political leaning. Do any of you honestly have any trust in politics left? I certainly have none anymore. We are lied to on all sides & from every corner. I’m disillusioned & politically lost.


Epzo is one of those people



>LisSladen dies. Nicholas Courtney dies

Doctor Who dies



2015 was a pretty good year.



You forgot "The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe airs"



Big if true.



But it had Hell Bent.






It won't actually let me delete it. But admin/mods feel free.


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Epzoheads will ignore this



2011 was such a gut punch after how good of a year 2010 was for Doctor Who.






I fucking hate this race to the bottom of wokeness, never pleased with anything are they


Epzo confirmed for radical centrist


Can't wait to see all the nazis sperge again tonight.

>B..but I liked Jodie

Lol, sure you did m8.


can someone send a link to the stream plz


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>"Mr Chibnall, is this a page from a coloring book?"

>"No, thats my latest Doctor Who script"






that's one of Judy's posts



Jesus Christ, "Arachnids in the UK"?




YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.





I am an anti-Chib

I am an arachnid


Right now ha, ha, ha, ha, ha

I am an anti-Chib

I am an arachnid

Don't know what I want

But I know how to get it

I want to destroy the viewership


And this is where it begins.




13s quite annoying so far desu


>Angstrom and Bradders together



>accidentally missed the first 5 minutes

shit I'll watch it later


>this dialogue


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>this characterisation


Anybody got a link to the stream?



Ryan auditioning to be the new Mel.





the ribbons talk





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It was shit.


That was great.


Angstrom or Epzo?

The answer - both shit.


The TARDIS interior is genuinely a fucking atrocity.


>Angstrom is revealed as gay in one small line

at least it's a better fate than Epzo


20% of the way through series 11. What are we thinking? Good or bad?



Mediocre, but honestly better than I was expecting.


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>that Call of Duty scene


NightmareofEden here and after watching the episode I just want to say…

…friendship ended with Epzo. Now Angstrom is my new best friend.








Amazing what you can learn from a Sniperbot.



I can't fucking think of this line without dying laughing


post rankings

The Ghost Monument

The Woman Who Fell to Earth


New opening is GOAT.

Episode was painfully mediocre which is actually refreshing almost for Chibnall.

TARDIS interior is busy and shit.


best chibnall script by far



Have you ever considered what you can learn from a Sniperbot, and how amazing that would be?



Every episode from 1963-2017

The Ghost Monument

The Woman Who Fell to Earth



3rd worst actually


A conversation between Sniperbot and Tim Shaw would be priceless.



The universe is big. It's vast and complicated and ridiculous. And sometimes, very rarely, amazing things just happen and we call them Sniperbots.






Please tweet that.


Worst titles. The whole point of the titles was pretty much to show the doctor was on his/her way to the place where the adventure was gonna happen


Ryan > Graham > Yas > 13



13 > Graham > Ryan > Yaz



I like Ryan as a character but the actor's weak performance brings him down



>The whole point of the titles was pretty much to show the doctor was on his/her way to the place where the adventure was gonna happen

have you ever watched a black and white episode



Absolutely NPC take




Calm down, I copied it from the YT comments.



Graham is a poor character. We hyped him so much as being this The Chase-esque charismatic presence but he's just dead weight.


The Timeless Child chib oncoming loredrop = monka fucking S


Missed the episode lads, any links ?


Meanwhile, the normies are getting upset there's no TARDIS in the new intro. Truly Chib is a master of the audience-hostile craft.




It's simply all style with little substance.

From the excessive use of exposition by the characters to explain things that don't need to be explained, to the dismal plot which displays little reason to keep you watching. It's very clearly missing what makes Doctor Who so unique.

Gone are the goofy sci-fi lite plots which usually explored ethical dilemmas and made you think whilst still entertaining. It's replaced with an overly dramatic Hollywood style that tries to replicate NOTHING of the previously established show.

The Doctor and Graham try to keep things on the comedy side but their attempts just fall flat under the frankly oppressively grim tone of the show. There are several lines (even referencing fucking Call of Duty!!!) that come across as plain egregious and which show signs of writing to reach specific demographics (ahem young niggers meandering the London streets, lgbt groups, feminists, we all know the typical leftie virtue signal groups). A lot of the dialogue, especially between Yaz and the Doctor, come across as awkward and clunky. I feel as though the writers have to spend so long writing exposition because they're simply inept at building relationships between characters in an efficient yet believable way.

Let's face it, this show has become a Hollywood tinged, soap drama using the name Doctor Who with minimal amount of sci-fi elements, but just enough to build a very fragile plot around.



Where did you copy this post from?


tHe tImElEsS cHiLd


How shit does the TARDIS look?


Rating: 5/10


>Desolation looked visually impressive and varied, very impressed with it

>Alien designs for the sniper bots and the remnants were excellent, miles better than last week

>Voice work for the Remnants was fantastic

>Story was alright, space race across a dead planet is a pretty interesting concept that worked reasonably well

>Epzo and Angstrom were great and really stole the episode with their conflict

>A little juicy hint of new Chibnall lore "the timeless child"

>Better than TWWFTE


>Expository dialogue was unbearable at times (that fucking speech just scrawled on the floor)

>Thirteen seems completely manic and off the wall compared to Twelve's more reserved demeanour

>Big team not really working fluidly so far and feels inorganic

>Tosin and Mandip's acting seemed really quite shit up against Shaun Dooley and Susan Lynch

>That awful fucking orange TARDIS interior

>The Stenza are the series arc villains oh god the Stenza are the series arc villains

>EMP came out of nowhere and was pointless considering they were running away anyway

>Too much time given to the "human drama" which should've been given to fleshing out the Remnants, get the feeling this was here for people who don't give a fuck about sci-fi or Doctor Who



In some ways it's incredibly set-like, the walls are all spaced apart and you can imagine them being rolled about. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it could be kino. But it's too ugly for that to work



It's like a modern version of the coral interior except they decided to finally get a decent lighting supervisor.


Imagine. Just imagine if the big lore reveal for the first female Doctor is that she had a child.

Can you imagine.



We asked for Chib to actually deal with her gender! We brought this down on ourselves!


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Amazing episode. I literally punched the air with soy.


Deadlocked reply to this post so I can send you a relevant spoilered pic



The new interior is just Coral but with Crystals and then made worse in every way conceivable.

Needs more roundels.


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Saw Nilso's cousin while I was out today.




Neat, what is it?



There were no saigas. 😠 I gave them what for.



A Cavy.


I will forever be verged that the sunglasses weren't a capaldi reference. Would have just been choosing a different prop, wouldn't have been normie-hostile at all, and such a fucking easy cute reference.



Fucking based cloyman



>Story was alright, space race across a dead planet is a pretty interesting concept that worked reasonably well

I have to wholeheartedly disagree. The story was extremely weak. The concept of humans competing in a game show style race has been done to death and has been explored much more interestingly than here. The obvious comparison is The Hunger Games, which at least explores the theme of affluent societies actively getting pleasure from watching the suffering of lower class citizens. Now I'm not saying The Hunger Games is good, but it's at least miles better than this garbage. In The Ghost Monument we don't even know why the hologram man conducts these competitions. Is it for his own amusement? Is it out of necessity? He certainly didn't seem amused by anything, in fact he seemed annoyed that he was being bothered by the competitors when he had to speak with them. We're given no reason as to why he seems so annoyed.

The climax of the story is by far the most disappointingly bad part. We've watched this race expecting there to be something interesting at the end: a classic Doctor Who Dilemma; Will the Doctor have to leave someone behind? Will we finally see some of these tortured scientists and learn more about this planet? Nope. Epzo suddenly contradicts his entire backstory and character and agrees to tie the race. He and Angstrom then threaten the hologram guy, showing that Epzo's still the same scummy guy and that his "character development" meant nothing. The hologram guy then agrees to tie the race, even though he has absolutely no fucking reason to.

We then get an extremely out of character scene where the Doctor just gives up suddenly, despite always having been written as an optimist previously, just so that the writers can lazily shoe horn in another flimsy reason for the side characters to be there.

There's so much more wrong with this episode but I'm just still in shock at how bad it fucking was to write it all.


How did she have the glasses from Pythagoras if she lost everything in her pockets on the fall to earth?


m y b e a u t i u f u l g h o s t m o n u m e n t



Chibnall can't even make it two episodes in without fucking up his own continuity


Into the Dalek > The End of the World > The Beast Below > New Earth > The Ghost Monument



The End of the World > The Beast Below > Into the Dalek > New Earth > The Ghost Monument



great post, I'm with you completely especially on the ending and that bit where the Doctor suddenly gets all depressed


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Eat Kronkburger 'alloween




absolutely based


The End of the World > Into the Dalek > New Earth > The Beast Below > The Ghost Monument



The Beast Below > The End of the World > Into the Dalek > The Fires of Pompeii > Tooth and Claw > The Ghost Monument > The Shakespeare Code > Dinosaurs on a Spaceship > Smile > Under the Lake/Before the Flood > The Curse of the Black Spot


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Great post. Thorough and articulate and considering past Who in a thoughtful way. What is your name?



morphant whoooooo ooooeooooo morphant whoooo morphywhooweeeooooooo


Maybe it's the lack of Marigold, but these two episodes have been missing something that even bad Doctor Who episodes have.


He has one constant companion.







I'll slap you so hard your dick will fall off.




Oh my god fuck off


Yeah well toss off



No, Toss in. Cole.


ryan running out with the gun was probably the dumbest scene i've ever seen in nuwho


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I fucking howled, first fun moment in S11


jodie and bradley are great but they're being wasted by mediocre writing.

>the shitty tooth guy is the main villain arc

its over lads


Tosin Cole = Tossin' Coleslaw = Tossing Salad



Think they’ll be Rosa?



Toss my salad 'alloween



I paid 50 EUR for that. What a waste.

Never even watched it too.


I've always wanted to just earn money


Sand and rock will break my cock, but Susan's tits excite me.


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>didn't even consider the fact that doctor who youtube pops would be a thing

Yeah, I'm thinking I'm going to marathon this kino for hours


>MVQ I see a potential /who/re in a jackass thread on /tv/.


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>tfw Neo is already able to detect my posts now

DW kinos for this feel?



Don't even try to hide your posting style, it's deadlock sealed!



As long as he doesn’t know who I am



Don't post. Don't even post. Post and you're dead.



This is a very….nightmarish post



You remind me of Nilso's future.







I think people will look back and realize that, even beyond the questionable writing, there's something much worse at play here. They've ripped out what makes this show what it is.

I can't speak for everyone, but for me Doctor who is at its best when there's an interesting moral dilemma tied to the episode. This is what makes a story like Human Nature|The Family of Blood so fucking good. The Doctor finally gets the one thing he wanted so much, the one thing he can't have as the Doctor: a normal human life with no Time War, no crushing loneliness, no running constantly from his problems, and he loses it all. It's such good character building because The Doctor is normally painted as an optimistic hero character who always saves the day, but here we see all the flaws of his character exposed. The Doctor has to sacrifice his human life to carry on living. Those scenes where John Smith at the end is BEGGING for his life are so engaging because there just isn't a solution. This is it. He must die for the Doctor to live and there's nothing he can do about it. That scene at the end where Joan denies travelling with the Doctor speaks volumes in just a couple of lines: "Answer me this - just one question, that's all. If the Doctor had never visited us, if he'd never chosen this place… on a whim… would anybody here have died?" It's elegant writing.

I strongly believe that Doctor Who works best when it's commenting on the morality of the Doctor himself and his actions in an interesting, thoughtful way. Every Doctor Who episode strives for this, to varying degrees of success. The series staples like the Tardis and the sonic screwdrivers are used as a base to hopefully create an episode which does this to its fullest.

This is what's missing from The Ghost Monument. The story is simply used as a tool to get from x to y, rather than to present any interesting themes or ideas. There's absolutely no attempt at exploring these here. It's just random shite smacked together: the Doctor's crashing in a spaceship, the Doctor's talking to a hologram, the Doctor's reading some inscription etc. The companions don't feel like COMPANIONS. They feel like some random people who just happened to run into some Alien shit and now are stuck with the Doctor.

Jodie Whitaker has no screen presence. Every line she delivers I feel like the other characters are just ignoring and hope she shuts up soon so they can carry on. She just comes across as a ditz flailing a screwdriver around while saying quirky shit.

I can go on if anyone is interested but I just want people to understand that this is BAD Doctor Who.



We use the term "DWE" (Doctor Who Equivalent)



really good post


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Do go on. Also: pic.


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>tfw an episode about Rosa Parks/MLK could have been genuine balls-to-the-wall kino in a more ambitious era but it will be a generic runaround with some mealy-mouthed platitudes

>and now no future era will even attempt it

Why does everything good have to be RUINED


Why is Ryan afraid of ladders?


Anyone else get the feeling that Chibbs doesn't really think about/read his scripts? Like, he does one draft or two and that's it?

I'm not even talking in a plot sense, but in structure. imo the episodes have felt a bit boring so far because they're really clunky in their storytelling.

It's basic stuff like having [tracking shot of boat] -> [Scene on boat where Epzo gives out his thing] -> [tracking shot of boat] -> [scene on boat where Angstrom gives out her thing].

I dunno, it's really awkward pacing that doesn't give time for anything, sometimes there's a lack of buildup and scenes just sorta happen.





I'm afraid of ladders, anon. You're never really sure as to where you are with them or if you're getting off on the wrong foot.






That's the thing with ladders, they're prone to being misgendered. You can never tell if it's a lad or a her.


>Arachnids in the UK

unironically a clever play on words, why do people hate the title?



wow Star Wars Episode IX looks kino



I think it's the title combined with what we know about the premise (it's about spiders in Sheffield, that's it). The pun is there for no reason and it is so obviously going to be an episode about nothing, with some generic scenes about Yaz's family added in.

If the ep was about, I don't know, a team of humanoid spiders trying to rise up and become the best punk band, I'd be a bit more interested


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>mfw every episode is a stenza epsiode


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>13's character has gone from flat in ep 1, to flat AND incoherent in ep 2



how long till we get a ripped ep 2?




1080p is out but I'm still waiting for 720 personally cos i cant be fucked



I'm waiting for 720 too, 1080 is way too laggy


>Neo using his superior teraflop south korean internet.



I could just youtube-dl it off iplayer in that case


Reminder that the finale of S11 will feature

>The Stenza. It will be about the Doctor and friends fighting the Stenza. The tooth face guys

>A reveal, or partial reveal, about the Doctor's forgotten past concerning "the timeless child"

>Probably Graham sacrificing himself because he feels he should have died instead of Grace



I always just dont bother once I see the file type is mkv




Don't forget based Angstrom and Epzo



Why? It's just a container.





The Timeless Child is Rose Tyler, the s12 return rumours were true


Why did Epzo and Angstrom agree so easily to taking a joint victory at the end? Presumably, the Doctor said something bold and inspiring to make them take that step. I can understand Angstrom agreeing to it, but Epzo's whole thing throughout the episode was "trust nobody," and it was clearly established that it was a worldview he'd held his whole life. Did it really just take the Doctor saying "hey, why don't you guys just work together!" for him to overcome such a deep-rooted mentality? Was he convinced of the virtue of teamwork solely through the adventure they'd had in order to reach that point? If that's the case, why were we never given any scenes to indicate his changing views? Just like in TWWFTE, Chibnall seems to leave out the parts of the story necessary to make the resolution satisfying. First, it was the fate of the DNA bombs; now, it's Epzo's change of heart.




I pretty much never see it unless its a super hi def 1080 file thats several gigs and the moment I press download my PC is going to explode



There's only one gig here.



That's dumb as fuck. An .mkv could contain the exact same material as an .mp4 or the vast majority of other containers in the world.


>Your favourite BF writer becomes showrunner


>They canonise many BF elements, including the Eminence, the Eleven and the Ravenous


TOS follow me on twitter lol



You act like this is a bad thing



I've been rewatching the series recently and just got through The Doctor's Daughter. In my opinion this episode is a 6/10 so I'd like to show how even a somewhat mediocre episode like this is miles ahead of The Ghost Monument. In The Doctor's Daughter, there are two dilemmas presented which aim to comment on The Doctor's character:

1. The Doctor has a daughter created from one of his cells. Throughout the episode we see the Doctor and Jenny develop as characters. The Doctor starts off as being very belittling towards Jenny. He barely acknowledges her presence when she's first created. When he, Donna and Jenny are locked up, it's Donna who manages to ease the obvious tension between the two with humour in a very Donna kind of way (Donna is strongly written as a likeable, solid companion here). We then go through the episode with The Doctor and Jenny slowly warming to each other, until her sacrifice at the end. The building of their relationship is solidly written: we go from the Doctor looking down on her to him respecting his daughter. The sacrifice at the end is predictable, but it serves its purpose. We see how strongly the Doctor ended up feeling towards Jenmy through his outburst at the end, almost shooting the general.

2. The other element of this episode is the war between the humans and the Hath. The humans are shown to be morally grey, consumed by greed while we're given little information as to the Haths' outlooks other than a fun and surprisingly dramatic narrative between Martha and one of the Hath.

The second aspect of the plot is, in my opinion, where it drags itself down. The conclusion to the war is peace between the two races created by a convenient orb which allows organic life to develop. This explores little in terms of themes, but at least serves as a stable basis for us to see The Doctor and Jenny's relationship to develop.

It's a decent episode that uses its plot reasonably

Let's now look at The Ghost Monument. The plot in this episode is one long narrative as we follow all the travelling characters together after a brief split at the beginning. The main dilemma of the plot is 'will the Doctor and her companions get to the Tardis in time?' Let's think about what moral themes are explored here…. oh yeah, none.

We also have a side plot where two characters, Epzo and Angstrom, are competing in a race to the Tardis too.

Right from this point the narrative fails. Every characters' motivation homonegizes into one thing: we must reach the Tardis. This already throws a lot of interest out the window. Every character has the same goal so there's no reason for conflict. This is already very lazy writing, but oh it gets worse.

You see the only conflict in this episode is between Angstrom and Epzo, who both want to reach the Tardis. Now I actually like Epzo's backstory about his mom. It was a very cruel backstory to depict and was written, surprisingly, well. We now know that Epzo is devoid of trust because of his Mother. Unfortunately, at the end of the episode he decides to trust Angstrom and tie with her because The Doctor told him to. The Doctor's reasoning being basically of the same vein as 'we should all be friends and get along'. Angstrom just complies because it's The Doctor who said it, and we all know the Doctor can just get people to do whatever she wants because she's The Doctor(!)

It's fucking lazy (and it's especially agonizing when you recall the amount of needless exposition they pushed down our throats in the first half of the episode) that Angstrom gets no reasonable reason to agree to a tie. He's meant to be cutthroat and trust noone. It's just bad writing and the only conflict in the episode is gone.

Can you see how The Doctor's Daughter uses a story conflict to further develop the Doctor's character? The Ghost Monument doesn't even fucking bother to give us a conflict with even a understandable but bland end and on top of that we get no insight into the Doctor's character or any moral dilemma beyond the Doctor expressing 'hurr making humans compete is bad'. Yeah no fucking shit Sherlock


Why did race master whathisface fold so easily at the end? Their threats are pretty meaningless when he can just fuck off and leave them to die.



I don't give a shit about those things being canon as long as the stories in the show are good.


I was the biggest supporter of big TARDIS team out there but after two episodes I'm getting just more and more disappointed. It's not even funny how little Yaz gets to do or to say.



Ok :-)



desu I'm just saying that whenever I see an mkv file it happens to be a big one, I'm not sure if I said it in a way that was too roundabout or something but its not any more complicated than that



2 companions is probs the sweet spot




I told you that in a 4-person TARDIS team one person will always get left out.


TOS follow me on twitter lol



t. Dilemmanon



I think we need to wait a bit longer. A three person TARDIS team likely means people jumping in and out of focus, I assume next week or the week after will be her heavy.

One issue was making a three person team, but then making two of the people much closer to each other than the third



I'd be less upset about Yaz being shafted if Ryan, Graham, or even 13 were picking up the slack in any way. They just aren't.


>tfw nilso tried to warn us about the problems s11 might face but nobody listened to him because we weren't sure whose posts were the real nilso's


How are Cats and Kinda gonna react to the ep



Dislike and ambivalent respectively


>John Smith made the new titles

NeonVisual BTFO again



He's crying into his NeonVisual hoodie right now




>semi-prominent (like D-tier) Who figure criticises the show and incurs the wrath of the positivity cult

What a mad lad and a true hero.



Lad Status: Mad



>the positivity cult

Ah yes, I like to think of them as the No-Positivity-Criticism Screamers.



Legitimately based


I havent seen episode 2 yet but I actually liked episode 1 a lot and never came back here to actually share my thoughts and see why people here hate it. Now let me share my opinions and get memed on a week late:


-people kept calling it boring but while the pace was slow, I didnt think it was boring at all, I was more or less engaged the whole time. And I much prefer a slower pace and lower stakes.

-on that note, people say a lot of it was unnecessary but I was fine with what was uneeded information. I'm willing to accept things being less streamlined if it means things get rounded out. For example, I was fine with the guy stealing the pod and the exposition scene with his sister as its more meaningful than just them finding the pod where they left it. The world is a bit more rounder and it shows that not all the events of the world revolve around the TARDIS team

-Jodie was great, but that's obvious. Screwdriver making scene was legit kino and that better be her new theme playing while she did it. I dont mind anyone else either. Though Ryan's dialogue felt fake sometimes.


-the death was way too sudden and thus the emotion wasnt carried in an effective way. Also Nan was the best person the whole time so it stinks she is gone

-story was bland, but that's been discussed a thousand times so I have nothing else to say there

-I like Jodie's tone and I like the episode's tone separately, but Jodie's upbeat personality just clashed completely with how dark the surrounding episode was, there is a fine line between "character consistency no matter the story" and "this character almost feels out of place." Like the shift between the screwdriver scene and right after when they watch the person's video is noticeable.


-You fuckers memed people reacting to the salad halloween line so much that when I finally saw it I completely lost it, now I'll never know if I actually liked that or not

-the show almost looks too good, its odd to think that Who cheesy special effects will largely be a thing of the past now. The look will take getting used to

Neo link me to your review




Reeeee Chibnall this isn't Star Wars



it is now



That was indeed her theme in the sonic and clothes sequence; it plays at a few points in ep2 as well.

>Neo link me to your review

I'll do you one better, mine:











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>hmm what do the kids love these days? yeah, yeah… star wars is back, we'll shove some of that in there. and what was that show… strangest things? yeah, a bit of that too. and what's that superhero one? the flash, that's it. we'll just make that, really…




Whatever. I hope in about two weeks time you begin to realize how bad this show is becoming otherwise I have to question why you even enjoy this show in the first place beyond

>The Doctor travels in space and there's pretty girls and they meet aliens hurrrrr



What is your name?


Doctor Who is the greatest idea ever. So just make The Flash really.



My real name? Don't get why you want to know.


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Your /who/ name or anything identity wise in a /who/ context; most people who post long posts like yours are known as/for something even if they don't use the stream or anything.


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I do realise how bad it's becoming, believe me, I can't stop myself from posting about it. But I like your posts and have dubbed you Dilemmanon.



I don't have one and didn't realize I needed to if I wanted to write long posts.



>didn't realize I needed to if I wanted to write long posts

Oh calm down, that's not what I said, and I've already complimented and appreciated your posts.


kitty got claws



Just call me dilemmanon then. Thanks for at least appreciating my thoughts



Wasn't trying to pin on a name on you, it's just unusual for someone, even infrequent poster anons, without any sort of past /who/ recognised things to start making long posts in a S11 onseason on 8chan when we're in the last position to be getting new/re-activated folks. It's a good thing, just surprised me. How would you compare and contrast The Ghost Monument with previous second episodes of seminal Doctor series?



wtf episode is this from? looks like Clara's outfit from The Witch's Familiar but I don't recognize that alien at all



It's just a guy? You're not a racist are you?


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Both of these episodes have been Chibbers, right? When do we start getting new writers?



Next ep, but we're back to Chibbers for ep 4



All eps are cowritten by Chibbyboy.



Next ep still cowritten by chibnall


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alien that never got used, the scene got cut i think. This season there was a leaked pic of what looked like a blowjob monster, but the guy who leaked it said he only leaked it because it was cut from the show regardless


Soundcloud embed. Click thumbnail to play.

ITS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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>ep 1: Chibnall

>ep 2: Chibnall

>ep 3: Malorie Blackman…and Chibnall

>ep 4: Chibnall

fuck lads what if he's going with the traditional structure and ep 5 is chibnall as well and all other eps are co written by chibnall


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I can't believe Chibnall kept this from leaking.


legitimately the "timeless child" thing sounds like the sort of lore tease you'd get in a DW2012 fanfilm with Luke Doctor


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>But just who are the judoon? And what are they doing here? And why are they here? Why take a hospital to the moon? And what is the significance of Mrs Finnegan's straw?

Imagine if every Doctor talked in expository questions


I tried to watch, I want you to remember that. I tried to enjoy it, I tried to understand you but I think you understand me perfectly, and I think you just don't care! I don't know if you are here to disappoint, infuriate or just appease us - I don't suppose it really matters now, you are a bad writer! That is the role it seems you are determined to play so it seems I must play mine. The man that stops the antikino. I'm sending you back to your own genre of police procedurals. Who knows? You may even survive the trip. And if you do, remember this: YOU are not welcome here! This show is protected! I am the viewer, and I name you…Chris Chibnall!





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There's no escape from this hell, is there?



fucking based



Great ep.



It is. I didn't appreciate what I had



Didn't Moff basically call this the most underrated kino ep of all time. Fucking based opinion



>chibnall has to make the doctor verbally tell us what to think about because he's incapable of developing any sort of intrigue naturally


Is it insane that I still want to believe that not every episode will be a Chibnall cowrite? I'll wait. I'll wait for the one episode to show up without his name on it



Moffat appreciates Smith and Jones so much he ripped it off.



Every NuWho episode appears like a gift from God when pitted against what we're currently receiving.



The one good thing about Chibnall who is that it makes me appreciate RTD



Reminds me of the Pilot in setting up a better series than we got after it, particularly doing great work setting up the companion.



It's true though. I hate it.


There will be three non-Chibs next series. None in s11.



I just spent like half hour reading all of this.And this level of passionate disappointment is rather interesting. I'm sure I'm gonna like the whole season and its gonna feel like I'm completely betraying /who/

Yeah I forgot to mention the bizarre pacing the episode had, the skip to the roof made me actually rewatch the scene because it felt like the worst jump in the episode.

I think that the episode (and a few after) will be intentionally extremely expository because this will be the first time at least a third of the viewers watch Doctor Who I believe, so they pretty much have to go slow, or at least this was likely the thought process. And no, 11 calling Clara will always just about be the worst

Also something I forgot to mention, why was there any tension in the crane jump? She should still be invincible post-regeneration right?



>its gonna feel like I'm completely betraying /who/

You are allowed to like s11. You're allowed to like any Doctor Who you like. There's no betrayal in having your own tastes about this form of media we all share an enormous interest in, and I hope you find enjoyment in as much of it as possible.



Setting up something better than what we get is pretty much Doctor Who's mantra. There has never been a season long question or arc I expected to be satisfied by the answer for desu


Smith and Jones is genuinely great. It's fast, it's funny, both Tennant and Freema have their moments, great soundtrack, elegant introduction of Martha's personal struggle and her family. It recaptures that "Doctor as a mysterious figure" vibe from Rose.

It's very well directed, some of the most exciting corridor running in the show, also Judoon are a fun design.

In the hands of poor production team this would be boring "please can we move on to space adventures" ep but it turns out fantastic, exciting and thrilling. I love it for that.

I love all RTD openers really (if you count Christmas Invasion instead of New Earth)

I really really love RTD



>The weeks pass… Chib. Chib. Chib. Chib and random woman. Chib.

>It's all Chibnall.

>It's the week of the final episode. The title credits play…

>Written by Steven Moffat

>and Russell T. Davies

>You cry. It's a clip show of every single pre-Chibnall episode. At the end, RTD and Moff appear.

>"Chibnall has done such a horrible job that we're corunning the show together now. Also, we're gay for each other."

>They make out for the final extra 5 minutes.



>its gonna feel like I'm completely betraying /who/

I just linked the opinion of three dudes, there's 0 wrong with liking series 11, it's just a TV show and these are all just our opinions, nothing more. I don't know where people get this idea but I can assure you 100% nothing would verge me more than people feeling ashamed or hiding their opinions because they're not the same as mine or other people's here.

The 11 phone call has clunkiness to it but I think is genuinely the only time in NewWho, and one of the only times in Who period, where a story has had me directly reconcile two Doctors being the same person, which is surreal.

Good point about the crane, although another anon countered saying the tension was how long it took her to get to the white dude (although why didn't Stenza dude just teleport directly to him…)


S8 is probably the main new series I think of in being much better than what the premiere set up, but I honestly think Into the Dalek operates more as the true premiere there though so it's somewhat moot.


Fun time travel thing with the scarf too.

Checked twitter lately?


Still haven't watched it. Its so hard to skim through posts looking for links :c



I think I'd experience so much joy in that moment that my heart would simply stop.


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>What the devil is going on with that asteroid? Just what could it be? What is this glowing shape we retrieved from the crash site? A power cell perhaps? And what on Earth is occurring in that toy factory? Could it be related to the asteroid?


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"It's me Doctor, I am the timeless child and I will destroy you. Kronkburger?" The old man said.

"It's you" said the Doctor. "I remember you. From Satellite 5. That was a long long time ago, I had a different face back then."

"Yes, you did" Boomed a different northern voice from behind. "Hello, Doctor. I'm back. And it's about time."


Christopher Eccleston

as the Doctor


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This is a parody of Rick meeting Morales again in Series 8, right?


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Chib-tier dialogue. Bravo.


What does /who/ think of Partners in Crime? I think its aesthetic is a bit naff, but overall I quite like it. The structure is clever with how the Doctor and Donna are separated, it has a good RTD 'we live in a society' plot, the stuff with Wilf is obviously GOAT, and it's decently funny.



I mean I know that much, I pretty much meant it in a cheeky way. I'm certainly not gonna feel guilty or anything. It probably helps that Ive pretty much never watched any of the things the show is supposedly aping so I dont have that baggage. Not even Star Wars. if I used that spoiler right. Dont know if Ctrl S still works here


And I may not come here that much but I do know that much about you, its fine. Plus even when I like episodes I like hearing things that didnt work for other people because it helps give things greater context. Though Ive found that the only (or biggest thing) that will change my mind on an episode after the fact is plot and character holes. Like Smile completely lost me after reading someone talk about why they didnt like the climax and agreeing.

Also Id say the biggest example of that is Series 6, man that opener was good.


I agree with all of this post and its a shame the Judoon never returned. nuWho doesnt really have any established aliens the way Classic did, the closest we got is probably the Ood.


What I will say is a lot of the cgi and scenery etc looks great. This is my favourite alien planet along with Smile, in terms of how much I'm able to suspend my disbelief, and pretty much believe they went to a real planet. Smile was honestly a better episode though because Bill had more personality than the new 3 companions combined. I hope they get development this season



has any companion been more underused than Liz



Glad someone else is redpilled about Smile being better than this (despite still being quite bad).


reminder that eccleston's coming back for the 60th special


How to write Chibnall dialogue:

1. Think of the most generic way you could phrase something

2. Write something even worse than that



Pretty much. Mostly fun, some clever structure stuff, actually pretty elegant rejigging of Donna as a companion to make her tenable for a series. The villain and monster plot does nothing for me though and it gets a bit too RTD rompy but it's a great companion reintroduction ep.



>The 11 phone call has clunkiness to it but I think is genuinely the only time in NewWho, and one of the only times in Who period, where a story has had me directly reconcile two Doctors being the same person, which is surreal.

Huh, I've never thought about it like this before, but you're right. The audience knows that every incarnation is the same person, it's just a fact that everyone accepts… but very few times do you ever actually feel that that's the case. They still exist, in the mind, as distinct characters, for all that they share a history and personality quirks. But that phone call was probably the only time that the viewer could fully appreciate, and understand on a sort of… emotional level, that they're all one and the same. I think it was really artfully done from that point of view.



Love it. The Adipose are a genuinely great idea.



Genuinely, I'd rather Eccles came back as some alternative version of 9 than an attempt to reprise the actual 9 while pretending he hasn't aged (and thus cheapen 9).


Nacholskerka has been in the stream for at least 3 days consecutively now whilst idle. Should we be concerned?



>The End of the World

It's a decent episode for what it is and what it sets out to do. The plot itself is about a 6/10. The conflict is played for laughs here with Cassandra basically holding it up as an interestingly over-the-top villain. You wouldn't expect the last human to be a narcissistic bitch at first, but then you realize it makes total sense when you think about it - the last purely human survivor would HAVE to be out for herself at all costs just to have been the last one. We're introduced to a bunch of Alien species so that we know this is still Doctor Who. By far the weakest element of this episode is Rose and The Doctor's development as characters. We learn nothing new about them or their relationship beyond trivial things that we didn't already know from Rose. Overall 5/10.

>Tooth and Claw

I think this episode aims to first and foremost establish Torchwood's backstory. At that it does reasonably well. I think Rose is strong here, I like the scene where she's chained up with the other girls in front of the Werewolf, but rallies them to break out. To me, rallying other people was always Rose's main strength as a companion compared to others and it's showcased here. The plot itself I honestly don't know if I find it engagng or if I find it completely stupid. The concept of Alien Werewolves just doesn't work for me on the basis that Werewolves are fantasy creatures imagined by humans. I have this issue with episodes involving Vampires and Witches too but I think it's just me being unable to suspend my suspension of disbelief that much. The Doctor is pretty flimsy here though.

Overall 4/10

>The Shakespeare Code

I find this episode pretty garbage. I mean there's no way Martha would be accepted as a black woman AND have Shakespeare enamoured with her. Again the witches thing just doesn't compel me and I think Shakespeare's portrayal is riddled in cliches.

Overall 3/10

>The Fires of Pompeii

I surprisingly like this episode. There are multiple plot threads going on at the beginning with plenty of somewhat interesting conflicts between all of the side characters. The main conflict of the lava golems wanting to take over the Earth is pretty mediocre though. The Doctor and Donna are alright but obviously still finding their feet together.

Overall 6.5/10

>The Ghost Monument

A shitty husk of Doctor who. I have no idea what they were aiming to do with this episode: The first episode could have ended with them teleporting and then appearing in the Tardis as they did at the end of this episode and literally nothing would be different. The companions are all written shoddily, the Doctor has no screen presence as I said earlier. The villain's (if you can even call hologram guy a villain) motivation for conducting the race had no explanation. I assume they'll expand upon it later, but as a stand alone episode it was just abysmal.

Overall 1.5/10

Still need to rewatch the others and haven't watched them since they first aired so I don't remember them much



Maybe an alt 9 from when he really did destroy gallifrey could work. chibs will never do anything like this



I like it alot. It's very fast, most of the comedy really works there, Adipose are a nice design. Could be something more original than evil corporation woman for a baddie, but it's still very entertaining.



>We learn nothing new about them or their relationship beyond trivial things that we didn't already know from Rose.

It's the ep that introduces the Time War lol


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Oi, Churchill. Kronkburger?


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Grandmacore is my aesthetique



Not sure if you're joking but possibly, yes.


All this talk of Partners in Crime makes me realise I havent seen any Donna episode before Unicorn and the Wasp. How the heck did I just completely frget that



Oh yeah I forgot about that. I'd put it up a half point for developing the Doctor's backstory, but I wish it had been more tied to the actual plot in a more direct way. I completely forgot it was even introduced in this ep.


I felt the Ghost Monument was okay at being an episode of a scifi show, but not good at being an episode of doctor who.


It's nine o'clock on a Saturday

The regular crowd shuffles in

There's an old man sitting next to me

Makin' love to his tonic and gin

He says, "Son, can you play me a memory

I'm not really sure how it goes

But it's sad and it's sweet and I knew it complete

When I wore a younger man's clothes"



>I like the scene where [Rose is] chained up

Interesting, interesting…



The expectation of seeing the tardis made everyone dismiss the main plot


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What have I been waiting for

Been wasting all my time


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Nacholskerka enjoying casualwhostream (2018)



>I felt the Ghost Monument was okay at being an episode of a scifi show

That is either very generous, or very critical of other scifi shows.



he died and left the stream logged



What plot?



"the challenge"



Come on, Judy.



Half and half. I feel that the new series has a stronger emotional core, and characters with more depth than a lot of scifi shows nowadays


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Good poster though


Lots of you knew Nacholskerka longer than me, so I can't stand here and pretend to know everything about him.



I would accept the character's depth if they displayed their individual personalities through something other than lengthy exposition. I mean you need your characters to do things if you want us believe their words.

At this point what have all three of them even done in the show altogether? I think I could count it one hand and there's 3 companions × 2 episodes (=6).



yeah, that's what I mean. Series 11 doesn't feel like Doctor Who so far, because Doctor Who is usually so good with it's characters


Graham and Ryan not having put an ounce of blame over Grace's death on the Doctor is the poorest plot point so far. The mishandling of major characters will be what goes down in our memories as the biggest mistake of this series.


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India episode writer plays good videogames.


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The Doctor had too many Kronkburgers



Kronkburgers are the key to Series 11



I'm not elated at what we got but I would struggle to call this any better.


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jesus christ


>no "it's bigger on the inside"



>Jackie blames the Doctor for putting Rose into danger

>Rory blames the Doctor for putting Amy into danger

Okay fair enough, it's understandable that this will keep happening, because it's the most natural human response to this shit.

>Thirteen's antics, roping the gang in to her shit, are a part of what gets Grace killed, and then not long after the funeral, Thirteen gets them all stranded in space.

>Ryan and Graham: yeah whatever


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How did they manage to make it simultaneously too busy and feel a bit empty at the same time?



When I feel down I just think about the fact the new TARDIS interior has huge thick pillars obscuring all angles of sight and I piss myself laughing



for a TARDIS reveal that had been built up over the course of 2 whole episodes, that scene was so fucking boring. Everything is underwhelming so far this series, it's not good or bad, it's just .

Compare the TARDIS reveal in today's episode to this:


Moffat puts the viewer in Clara's shoes, and we feel the same sense of wonder she does when she walks in the TARDIS. When the trio walks into the TARDIS, they're confused but they don't really react too strongly.



>simultaneously too busy and feel a bit empty at the same time

it's a perfect microcosm of the Chibnall era




>*it's not good or bad, it's just meh


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Would you rather have had this as the cold open for Listen, or the intro as it is now? I feel that this is really good at showing the Doctor's paranoia, his fear… But the shot of the Doctor meditating on the TARDIS is so iconic to me.


Compare this TARDIS reveal to the hugely ambitious one Lawrence Gough came up with for The Pilot, the camera soaring in and up on a wire as the lights come on. Or even the digitally sequenced long-shot in The Bells of Saint John, where Clara is bundled into the box and whirled all the way around the console before rushing out the door again into a new location.



Unironically…both. One after the other. Don't care what order.

Yes this would fuck the flow of the cold open, I don't care.



I would laugh, but what you said is so desperately true. I had zero expectations, and yet I'm still honestly so disappointed.



I get you. They're both so great



best one is The Snowman one that was just posted. The tracking shot that follows Clara walking into the TARDIS and A Majestic Tale playing almost on cue when the lights to the interior switch on was pure fucking kino.



god, rewatching that scene made me realise how much i miss the moffat era already. and it also makes me realise how utterly dull the reveal of the new TARDIS was. only the doctor actually reacted with any sense of wonder, her companions just sort of took it in their stride and seemed a bit bored. then again, that's how they've been reacting to everything in general so far. ryan and graham seemed like they were going to fall asleep at the start of the ghost monument. ryan kept saying shit like "we're in space!" or whatever, but there was genuinely no feeling behind the words, it fell totally flat


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Post cover art that you really like



If you've ever seen Bradley Walsh in a presenting role, you'll understand that he isn't even acting in Doctor Who. He's just doing the same bit he does on shows like The Chase but more put on. The guy simply isn't an actor.

They've literally just put him in the show because moms who watch his shitty game show on ITV will go 'ooh look it's Bradley Walsh in Doctor Who. Gotta watch this'.

It's cheap, it's lazy and it's pandering to the lowest common denominator just like everything shown in the Chibnall era- Doctor Who so far.


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He's a better actor than the rest of the main cast.



Bradley Walsh is an actor though, not just a presenter.



Yes, it's really unfortunate…



>I never know why. I only know [slips out key] who.

I love that moment. So simple and sweet.



What I don't understand is why aren't they giving him humour? Why aren't they even giving him bad jokes that are just exaggerated enough for him to make them funny? God there had better be some serious fucking character growth and by the last ep he's just a bucket of fun, or it's a total waste of a casting



>that rendition of Mad Man With A Box

god I miss Marigold so fucking much



>Series 10 soundtrack literally fucking never

took Gold 2 and a half years to release Series 9 when literally all he had to do was send Silver Screen the audio files that were already recorded and mastered in 2015, and that was when he was still working for the show. Now he's gone I can't imagine he'll ever bother to do Series 10 or TUAT



he's a funny charismatic guy, but what do you expect him to do with the material he's been given? We'll see. In Husbands of River Song and Return of Doctor Mysterio, Nardole wasn't amazing, but then he was fuckin based after that, so we'll see



Bradley's a good actor, imo. Sure, he's not exactly pushing the boat out in terms of characterisation, but at least he knows what niche he occupies, and he does that to the best of his ability. Graham's easily the most interesting of the companions, and the only one I currently care about in any capacity. He plays a good straight man (and I mean that in the comedic term…) to the Doctor's currently chipper and excitable self.

Ryan is the other companion with any sort of story presence (mostly because he's interacting with Graham), but Tosin Cole is an awful actor. He fails to deliver any sort of emotion in his face or voice half the time. As for Yaz, she's a non-character. Basically just there spouting questions for the other characters to react and respond to. That line from the Doctor towards the start of TGM, where she says that she basically forgot Yaz was there… it was unintentionally hilarious meta-commentary.

The TARDIS reveal felt relatively lifeless for a number of reasons. The companion reactions (or lack thereof) were the icing on the cake, really. There was little to no music in the initial reveal, which can sometimes be a strength, but I felt like it weakened the scene overall. The companions just sort of walked in looking confused, but there was no sense of wonder or excitement from them, they just sort of awkwardly stood there afterwards, in that weirdly spacious but simultaneously cramped console room… I went back and rewatched the scene, then rewatched other TARDIS reveals, and the difference is astounding. I genuinely felt no emotion when I watched the TGM reveal, whereas with every other clip I watched from previous series, I felt the same sense of wonder I did back when it first aired. The uplifting music, the strong direction, the life in each of the characters… I don't know. S11 feels like it's missing all of that. Not to mention the fact that the new interior is, to be perfectly honest, fucking ugly.


>have a dramatic scene where Ryan and Graham clumsly discuss their feelings after the death of someone they love

>scene ends with Ryan apparently leaving Graham alone

>instantly cut to a scene in the same place, with the same people, giving no indication that time has passed, and Ryan is with Graham discussing the engine

Why isn't there just one scene where Ryan and Graham look at the engine and talk about Grace's death? You could even do a clever thing where they're talking about the engine but they're not *really* talking about it.


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anyone else find that massive gap in the walls ropey as fuck



not like he's busy anyway he doesn't do much other high profile stuff if any


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What are your thoughts on this sequence?



Its kinda giving me anxiety :/

Like trypophobia but…not?



It looks like the set is incomplete. I'll forgive it if that's the actual corridor to the companion's bedrooms or something



I'm guessing that's how you access the rest of the ship, but it just makes it painfully obvious that it's a set.



Honestly thought it was pretty funny, but tonally jarring



>carl of duty



Tosin just absolutely losing it and taking the piss at the end there is the kind of…performance (I won't say acting) that we need in S11. He's the only one giving this shitfest what it deserves. That scene was hilarious and like nothing we've had in Doctor Who before, it was like an elder level of shit schlockino that's paradoxically better executed than literally anything else we've seen so far.


Ryan's a funnier character than we've ever had before.



The most emotion we've gotten out of him.


When I feel down I just think about the fact Ryan has been this boring downbeat character for the entirety of both episodes but just has that random fucking freakout in the middle of this ep where he thinks he can kill robots because of Call of Duty and ends up screaming his head off, then immediately goes back to normal, and I piss myself laughing.


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forgot how cute Clala looked in the Ultimate Guide special


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I'm glad they were able to figure out Matt's wig situation by the time they did Time of the Doctor cuz it looks fucking awful in this


Also what the fuck was even going on with the bit immediately beforehand where the Doctor was insisting on pacifism and MUH NO GUNS EVER against fucking automatic robot guards? What's wrong with her? (don't worry, I already know Chibnall just wanted to introduce her pacifism but didn't have a fitting context in which to do so)


what's the over/under on the Doctor using "John Smith" as a fake name this series


so, no mega link yet? i'm sad i missed the stream.



Jane Smith


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>those fucking PoV shots

At least the director was having fun with this episode.


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it's just like call of duty POV




There's a 1080p one if you want that. >>117295


Where did that robot off button come from? Jodie just kind of grabbed that corpse and it was there, she didn’t even do anything to it.



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Thanks anons! much appreciated


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Lads I'm not sure I'm ever going to be able to get over that gun scene.

It's the first time S11 has acknowledged that it is a joke. I love it so much.



We live in a fucking society


it soundsd like it'd be Bannerman kino. it wasnt.


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is it just me? or is the new sequence extremely lackluster, it looks like some half-arsed cgi work by john smith.

>no good vortex

>no tardis

>no middle eight

>nothing in common with the promos


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Interesting how cgi is involved in the dematerialisation again. Used to be in RTD's era, but by the time Capaldi comes along, it's just a plain fade out.



Expecting middle 8 in the title sequence is too much. I like the concept of the new titles and the general visual style, it's nice and surreal, but they do feel a little empty and don't quite capture the trippiness of the classic titles they're obviously inspired by. desu I'd prefer them without text as well.



the CGI itself is gorgeous, and I like the design better than 12's clockwork one (always hated those titles) but yeah the lack of TARDIS/vortex felt weird to me. Also the cut to black right before the title is shown is shit. Especially because now all of the "[title] by [showrunner]" memes for Chibnall will just be boring text against a black background



To be fair CGI lets them do shots like that one. They might mix it up depending on the ep.


ugh that was shit, made me actually angry with its shiteness. worse than the first ep.


and where are the fuckin sonic sunglasses

she has two pairs and she loses the sonic ones



>all of the "[title] by [showrunner]" memes for Chibnall will just be boring text against a black background

Fitting, no?



The only thing I like about the new tardis is the door-porch thing



>thirteen hands graham a pair of sunglasses, not realising they're the sonic ones

>later, in the background of various shots, graham is wandering around excitedly opening doors with his glasses



would be far too interesting and funny for Series 11



it's absolutely ridiculous. the doctor just says 'i know how we can settle this' and it fucking cuts to them settling it. what the fuck this episode was so fucking NOTHINGY THERE WAS FUCKING NOTHING IT DIDN'T FUCKING TRY TO BE ANYTHING



It's like an un-story. Genuinely incredible that it got to transmission.


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>I think you tell great stories with great actors. And you tell stories that feel resonant to people’s lives. I mean, Doctor Who is the single greatest idea anybody’s ever had in the history of television, so just make that, really, and make it to the best of your ability.



I had so much hope for this episode. The premise was interesting, the opening scenes were exciting… and then it inevitably descended into the same problems that plagued TWWFTE.




The opening 10 minutes is probably the best thing Chibbers has ever written for Doctor Who


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i've never been so annoyed at how bland an episode of doctor who was. fucking hell. if it carries on like this i may have finally become just completely apathetic about doctor who instead of just tolerating the disappointment



Does Chibnall even want to write Doctor Who? Because it feels like he's just phoning it in at this point, like these are just the "obligatory" episodes he has to do before getting to the interesting stuff he actually wants to write, which is prolly the Time Kid vs the Stanza or whatever at the finale.


leaked conversation between Chris Chibnall and Matt Strevens:

>What's the episode about?

<It's about nothing

>No story?

<Forget the story

>You've gotta have a story!

<Who say's you gotta have a story?

>And it's about nothing?


>I still don't know what our idea is

<It's about nothing!

>So I go into a BBC and tell them I've got an idea for Doctor Who, and I say what?

<You say you've got nothing. Everybody's doing something, we've got nothing.

>I think you may have a point there


someone said in the /tv/ thread that the Crack being behind the door in The God Complex was a shitty retcon, and I've never had a problem with that reveal but come to think of it you'd think Moff making the War Doctor be behind the door instead would've made a lot more sense. I guess he wanted to do that but couldn't figure out how to do that reveal in Day of the Doctor so he just reused it in Time and made it be the Crack instead



no that still belongs to the first 3/4 of The Power of Three



I was never a fan of it being the crack, and already headcanon it to be john hurt desu



Moffat should have not included the God Complex callback in TotD at all. It wasn't necessary, the other flashbacks did enough to establish that the crack was a long running story element.



desu I like that it was included since that episode was Moffat deliberately wrapping up every single loose end from Smith's run. Even if the resolution was a bit stupid I still like the sense of closure



The ambiguity of what was behind the door really let the audience use their imagination. What could the Doctor's biggest fear be? Is it too horrible to even imagine? Then Moffat made it the crack. absolutely based, miss you moff



Eeesh. I appreciate giving closure to Smith's run but that REALLY didn't need any, I never considered it a loose end so much as a nice piece of ambiguity (and a rare instance where the show asks you to think about something for yourself rather than just passively receive an answer).


Also there was something kino about the fact that TGC didn't answer either the question of what the Doctor's fear was or what his faith was, but you could reasonably work both of them out from past stories.



desu I didn't expect the Crack to appear in that episode at all, same with the Silence having a role beyond random monsters appearing to attack 11/Clara (see: The Weeping Angels). I honestly didn't expect that episode to wrap up any of those story threads since I figured Moffat not really adressing them since Series 6 as well as having Day of the Doctor end with "Trenzalore" as the only thing setting up TOTD meant that they were done. So it was a welcome surprise for me


Before it was revealed as the crack what did you guys think the Doctors greatest fear was?






Another Matt Smith.



Not the Valeyard or War, but just a version of himself (perhaps even current incarnation) that had completely given in to his desire to play God.

I think that's the thread running through the Dream Lord as well, who is incredibly cruel in his manipulations believing the ends justify the means, and that links back to Seven as well.


>tfw after Moffat pulled the bait-and-switch with the "continuity error" of the Doctor's jacket in Flesh and Stone actually being set up for The Big Bang I thought he was gonna pull something clever with the mysteries in Series 6

>thought that the Astronaut was going to actually be Rory under the control of the Silence/eye patch lady, and River would have to kill him to save the Doctor/universe, hence her killing "a good man, the greatest I've ever known" which is how she'd describe her father.

>it was just River, which was the most obvious outcome

>think that the Doctor faked his own death by doing some wibbly wobbly shit since it seemed odd for Moffat to make a point in Let's Kill Hitler to mention that the Doctor was specifically off-screen doing something unknown for 23 minutes after being poisoned.

>he just used the nanobot technology to make a fake Doctor, which was the most obvious outcome yet again

god Series 6A was pure kino and Series 6B was the exact opposite



At least the extended universe exists to keep my enthusiasm for the series alive. I don't know what I'd do without it, knowing that we've got another few years of this mediocrity ahead of us.


>episode was so boring that I missed the "Timeless Child" scene because I wasn't paying attention

god dammit



Series 6 truly is the series in reverse. Not chronologically. Just in the sense that the first story is the big, dense, brilliant finale you wish was at the end, and everything after it just sort of trails off disappointingly



the only episode in the first half that I don't like is the pirate one, and the only episode that I *do* like in the second half is The God Complex, and even that episode is still a bit patchy


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>not liking The Girl Who Waited, the counterpart in an excellent duology with The God Complex and the only other piece of kino in 6B


>"the hybrid" sounded like boring tripe when I first heard it, actually turned out to lead to some GOAT ambiguous storytelling.

>"the timeless child" actually sounds kind of intriguing to me, could be the Doctor's childlike self, a representation of her childhood, or literally a child never aging.

>Whatever it is It's gonna be dissapointing though

You see? Chibnall is mirroring Moffat



This, Girl Who Waited/God Complex together are fucking phenomenal and part of the reason why I can't dislike series 6 even though it's a fucking mess at times


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Anyone have a Google Video Link for Ghost Monument? Thanks.

I haven't seen the ep yet.


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is The Cry worth watching for cute Jennas? Victoria gave her those stupid contact lenses that make her look like she's blind, so I guess it can't be as bad as that was?



I wouldn't bother.



VERY worth watching for Jennas






anyone else spend all day crying?



>on an alien planet

>all the companions act like its normal and have very little reactions

wtf? graham (again, just like last episode) is the only one who had remotely any real reactions, but they were still quite subdued.


Some of the editing in this episode was horrible. When they crash landed the ship and then it went black for a few seconds and they cut to Jodie standing up was crap.


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im a sick fuck i like a quick fuck



I want to regenerate now



same for tardis first entering



we don't see any of the ships landed/crashed




where were you



There was also weird cuts between character close-ups following the landing on the planet. Not sure how to explain it, but it just felt really choppy.



idk everythings been getting to me, family issues, too much work, friends arent talking to me, Doctor Who is boring which is the icing on the cake .-.


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Tosin was great in that. He understood the campy humour there




but it edged on the suspension of disbelief for a not so good joke



thanks. Nicest thing someones done for me this week c:




Call of Duty, man.

I've trained for this.



yeah if this was a moffat era episode they would have shown the ship crash landed and then had the doctor come out of the rubble.

instead jodie came out of nowhere.



Damnit, now that I've seen the music video, I get the joke.



Is this one of Chibnall's most boomer moments ever? I realise zoomers are stupid but only a boomer would think they're this fucking stupid and say things like "Call of Duty, man, I've trained for this"



are there any link between Ryan's condition and autism?




I hope you feel better, anon. As you can see /who/ is here for you if you need it. There's always someone around willing to talk to you about it.


One common way that dyspraxia is diagnosed is when children find themselves unable to play videogames due to lack of coordination. Especially anything that involves aiming, because of the hand eye coordination required.

So Ryan doing all that was… interesting







I believe he cannot piss into the loo



It was incredible. Chibnall threw absolutely EVERYTHING about Ryan's character out the window for that scene.



Thanks, Cloister.

I don't post here often…or at all. But its good to know that I don't have to hide how I feel.

I really do love this place everyone's so nice :)

I'm 10 mins into Ghost Monument and it's not looking too bad so far. It kinda feels like one of the Borderlands games or…maybe season 24? idk



Ugh, it's not playing at all.


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Oh, it just started playing.



You understand that the reason they're at the Earth burning is to make a parallel with the Doctor's planet being destroyed, right? Cassandra is the Doctor killing off everyone involved with the planet and bouncing off to elsewhere


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

opening credtis raw


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Chib's era will never have a moment as visually and conceptually kino as this.


Anyone else think this episode was too… normal? Compared to going to the end of the world and finding out the last human is a trampoline, or seeing the remnants of the UK on top of a giant space whale, it felt so safe.



know that feel fam


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That's somewhat of an understatement. There was nothing to it. Rather than try and demonstrate the wonder of Doctor Who for its first space outing, Chibnall is just having it go through empty motions.


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>blocks your path



there is no wonder



Not anymore, that's for sure.


I thought we were getting a Yasmin episode when she was with the Doctor and the other two were separated. When they reunited in the first 7 minutes I was a bit disappointed




Don't worry anon, we're learning more about Yaz and her family in episode, uh, 4.



I have yet to see it as I've embargoed myself until later tonight. Glad you like it here, anon!




Genuinely cannot wait to hear what you say about this one Cloi.



Supposedly they did not travel in time with the gadget

Epzo and Angstrom are human with strange hair

Alien Planet is desert

Everything was so pedestrian

I got more wonder visiting Dublin


someone here posted a way to get fonts for free by using inspect element or something the other day but I can't remember how they did it, anyway I think this is the font used for the episode titles:




>person on twitter has awful opinions

Not really much of a surprise is it?


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And the closest thing to a monster was floating bits of fucking fabric!


Quick! Behind these pillars of hope



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and deadly water spooky



That makes me a bit nervous. I've kinda skimmed through the various threads doing drive by shit posts and the reviews seem mixed. So I have no idea what to think going in.


Chibnall is making Doctor Who great again! by making us all appreciate what Moffat gave us more



and even if BF fails most of the time it feels more DW than this



Yeah, it actually failed at being Doctor Who. I never thought it was possible.



It's unironically given me the drive to reevaluate the RTD era. It can't nearly be as bad as this feels to watch.




even Rose episode, that was updted to (then) modern times, had a weak plot, felt like WHO


Just finished rewatching Heaven Sent. Shouldn’t have done that, it’s just made me feel more shit about the current state of the show.



she cannot be perfect, right?


>Moffags moving from Moff vs RTD to Moff vs Chibnall can now watch RTD without their biases ruining the experience for them

Based Chib



Godspeed anon. I used to detest the RTD era and I'm still cynical towards a lot of Tennant's, but these days I can clearly see how many great ideas and distinguishing features it possesses.


Give me your most kino titles for the india episode and the mpreg episode.



its everything else VS chib



I mean, I'm a huge fan of both RTD and Moffat's era anyway, but when either showrunner failed, they still understood the core of the show. When either did something stupid it was usually at least engaging


Exactly. Chibnall literally doesn't get it, he's like a non-fan approaching the show. How does a man that likes Ghost Light come along and make this?



No no, dyspraxia just means you can't climb ladders very well and you fall off of bikes, come on now anon.



The Boo in the Loo





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The MoffTD alliance will save the Doctor Who fanbase, Doctor Who criticism, /who/, and eventually Doctor Who itself.



The Curse of Fatal Death would be a Chib title at this point



it has the theme, the tardis, the screwdriver = DW


the feeling of DW is so untangible


>Moff and RTD return to cowrite a single episode

>Moff and RTD return to cowrite two different episodes with Chris Chibnall. i.e. ChibTD episode and Chibmoff episode

Pick one


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Option one. There's no question. RTD/Moff cowrite might literally be the greatest Doctor Who episode produced in our lifetimes.


Well, Chibnall was right about one thing: Doctor Who now feels more like other drama shows.


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It could also be a gloriously entertaining mess of a episode.



I feel Doctor Who, or even just new who has an emotional core, and moral dilemmas at the centre of most episodes. Failing that, a campy sense of humour


yfw Briggs is more rad than Chibs



sorry this is shit /who/ but it's the best I could do without the exact font and also not wanting to spend time getting the lighting and emboss level perfect



is that not what he said?



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Loz is quite silent



I wouldn't blame Loz if he has given up on S11 (like his mum has), he'd be a better man than I for doing so.



considering that the Moff/RTD writing duo (assuming RTD did some uncredited rewrites on at least *some* of Moffat's scripts) gave us 6 of the best episodes of Doctor Who ever, and Chibnall's scripts with both of them as showrunners were always middling at best, I'd take the first one in a heartbeat



>RTD/Moff as main co-writers

>perform seance to get ghosts of Robert Holmes and David Whitaker

>drag Loz out of his shed with the promise of giving him a Lego enema

>tell Cornell "remember all those times you said this will be your last Doctor Who story, well you were wrong again"

>prod Shearman with a stick to get him up



I mean it could be pretty bad if try to look at it objectively, but is too much fun to really care. Kinda my attitude to Let's Kill Hitler.



Yeah. Their visions for Doctor Who seem to be the exact same copy-and-paste by-the-numbers shit, but Briggs wrote The Nowhere Place so yeah.



Moff said in this exit interview that his ideas well was fuckin barren


very low hopes for next week. i actually like the title arachnids in the uk, but i can't put my finger on why because i even liked it in the split second before i realised it was referencing anarchy in the uk. not expecting it to be good though.



>(assuming RTD did some uncredited rewrites on at least *some* of Moffat's scripts)

RTD was very frank in Writer's Tale and he said he never did this, so I'm inclined to believe him. I mean imagine trying to rewrite even a line of any of Moffat's RTD-era episodes, where the fuck would you begin.



He was just being modest. Why would he say "I'm still loaded with ideas for episodes! I don't even know why I quit!"



Moffat was one of the writers RTD didn't rewrite his scripts for because Moffat has experience writing television. The others were Chris Chibnall and the Fear Her writer



Arachnids is closer to 2 weeks away though, we have to make it through Rosa first.



he was clearly repeating some themes



>the Fear Her writer

Actually laughed out loud, more than I should have



Reinventing them though to be fair



Loz also gave up and didn't watch S8 or S9, so it's not like it matters.



Moffat was reusing items from his bag of tricks for his whole era, but it's how he combined them that led to the kino. To his credit I don't think anything quite like The Pilot, Extremis, WEAT or TDF exists anywhere else in his run.



tbf he couldn't even come up with a villain for his last episode (not saying that as a criticism)


Moff was not perfect, but he went against the current of casting eye candy or female

he picked Capaldi and for that he deserves our appreciation




it was the second two-part finale in Capaldi's run to have The Master + Cybermen as the villains



>tfw now I know how RTD fans felt when Moffat took over



>he went against the current of casting eye candy or female

His first doctor was Smith and he set the stage for a female Doctor with meticulous detail by introducing multiple cross-sex regenerations.



Yeah it's also his 1000th story to have a character stuck waiting for years while the Doctor experiences time on a shorter timescale, but it doesn't feel like The Girl In The Fireplace or The Eleventh Hour at all.


ghost monument was much better than wwfte id give it a 7.5/10 it's a little too much to say 8, but not enough to say 7.



he could another young after Smith and did not pick a female himself

casting the old dude made the rating go low, but we got the most kino



what was your favourite thing about it


Why is Jodie so shit lads? Her and Bradders were the only things I was looking forward to this series and her performance has been shite so far.



>Yeah it's also his 1000th story to have a character stuck waiting for years while the Doctor experiences time on a shorter timescale,

first not to use "magic" to justify it at least

do we have an example of that on classic?




there was not time to get them

they did not develop an iota in the 2nd episode


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it is working on the netflix demographic

we are screwed



didn't that happen in The Curse of Fatal Death too lol


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DOCTOR: This whole world is swimming in wifi. We're living in a wifi soup. Suppose something got inside it. Suppose there was something living in the wifi, harvesting human minds. Extracting them. Imagine that. Human souls trapped like flies in the world-wide web. Stuck forever, crying out for help.

CLARA: Isn't that basically /who/?



and we return by free will





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Miss me yet?


Will the titles next week have the TARDIS in them?



When will Chibs write his "LUCIE BLEEDING MILLER" moment?




Nah m8. The titles are patterned after the Hartnell/Troughton style titles, there won't be a TARDIS.



Imagine if 2 years ago someone told you there would be an episode with dabbing and a joke about power bottoms, and it would be kino



>a joke about power bottoms

Uh. When was that



>They are at top of ship. Top of ship very slow. We are at bottom. Bottom much faster. Very fast bottom. (laughs)



WEaT/TDF as a whole sounds like the weirdest fever dream if you found out about the plot years before the episodes came out.

>So the Master, who's now a woman, turns good but is then persuaded to turn bad thanks to the John Simm Master, who has kidnapped the Doctor's companion and turned her into a Tenth Planet Cybermen. And the Doctor, who is in the midst of regenerating into a woman, meets with his first incarnation at the end of the episode.



>also there's dabbing



and Capal was the one that asked to have Mondasians



>Also Matt Lucas is a companion.



and a power bottom joke



>meets with his first incarnation at the end of the episode.

also after Tenth Planet



>Moffat wrote two of the best episodes in the series just because Capaldi asked him to



>Moffat could have written the episode that made the Chumblies the most loved Doctor Who monster ever if Capaldi was more upfront about it



also makes an explicit reference to the world shapers, which has The voord turn out to be early cybermen



Fuck, that might be the most mental thing of all. I would never ever have believed you if you came from the future and told me that was going to happen.


Imagine if two years ago someone told you that the host of The Chase would be a companion and that he is by far the best actor on the show



also the Doctor is killed but revived by the companian's lesbian girlfriend, who is a puddle ghost



desu you wouldn't have believed I was from the future. But imagine if it was just after series 9 and claimed to be an insider at the BBC, and just said all that. You'd think I was making shit up. Especially if I said that the Masters murder eachother



or that the pop singer married to Chris Evans would be one of the most popular Doctor Who companions of all time



i'm still sad that there were no chumblies



I was convinced TUAT would have Chumblies



we all were, anon. it was a sad day when the episode aired and we were chumbley-less





image 10 months ago that we would say

TUAT > s11


I remember there being a fake spoiler during Series 11, based on what we knew about the finale, and what we had guessed about the finale and I thought it would be GOAT, and then the finale was actually better than the fake spoiler seemed to imply it would be.

It was this:

>World Enough and Time is GOAT.

>It's the Doctor and Missy trapped on a space station orbiting a black hole. It's the Doctor and Missy sitting talking about their childhood with numerous flashback scenes to when the two were children. The boy who played the first Doctor in Listen is back and a new boy actor is playing the Master, black hair bright blue eyes. Moffat. It is revealed the Doctors parents before they died were servants to the Master's father. This is how the Master and Doctor became friends. A great flasback scene shows them meeting for the first time. The Doctors parents are heard but no seen. The son of a neighboring Gallifreyan Astriocrat bullies both the Doctor and Master, the Bully basically poor shames the Doctor which infuriates the Master who kills the bully. The Doctor and Master hide the boys body. It is an adaption of Master. The two boys promise to keep it a secret cementing their friendship. Flashfoward it is revealed the Doctors parents died in an unknown event. Not explained to keep the Mystery surrounding it. The Doctor gets sent to a boys home. The barn and is miserable. The Master begs his father to allow the Doctor to live with them and asks him to vouch for him to become a Time Lord. The Doctor is then inducted into the academy aged 11 which is older than usual. It's just one of the best episodes made for the show. And Gomez is brilliant in it, shes more sane in it and timid. Can't wait for everyone to see it. When I say it's better than Heaven sent I mean it.



Nice digits.

And I know, it's fucking insane that Chibnall somehow managed to start out his era on a worse note than TUAT but it happened.


What other episodes, if you explained the plot to someone years before the episode came out, would garner a "That sounds like the fakest shit ever! What the fuck are you on about?" reaction?



having a secret inbtween regeneration

having a McGann minisode


Imagine if the whole season was shit and then the christmas special was Heaven Sent style kino out of nowhere


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Imagine if Smith is back, but he is made of spaghetti




also the "ALL THIRTEEN!" scene is something that sounds too good to be true



no mention of River Song at all in the 50th Anniversary special or in Matt Smith's regeneration episode



The Doctor spends 2 billion years punching a wall in a mechanical castle and its absolute kino



Tom Baker comes back, says some cryptic shit, and is heavily implied to be a far future doctor



3 past doctors are featured on a special but they are under a blanket


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Hello anon, would you acompany me to my trailler?




Heaven Sent.

The Time of the Doctor.

Hell Bent


>Heaven Sent takes place in a castle called the Genesis Orbit, which is the promised land/garden from Series 8. It's a Gallifreyan space vessel. Because of time distortions, there are three twelfth Doctor's present. One in his velvet, one in his hoodie costume, and one in his series 8 costume. Gallifrey is found at the end of episode 11, and the Time Lords intend to sentence the Doctor to the chronolock chamber, which is the death sentence on Gallifrey, a device capable of erasing the accused from existence. He gets out of the punishment by revealing what the hybrid is, and it was him who created it when he was trying to break the regeneration cycle on Trenzalore. The "no sir, all 13" scene is also in episode 12. Clara does die in Episode 10, but she's in Ep12 as one of the doctors hallucinations, pretending she's still there. Ep12 ends with Gallifrey being restored, and the doctor being made president. But he runs away again. The final shot is the doctor in the tardis remembering Clara as he hears her voice. She says "run you clever boy, and remember" in relation to The Doctor running from Gallifrey once more. He smiles to himself tearfully before saying "oh, Clara, my Clara. How could I possibly forget?". The credits play with Clara's theme over them

is another favourite of mine, and honestly seems like it might be the same author. There's a TDF one about Delgado, I'm looking for it now, to complete the trifecta of my fave obviously fake spoilers


When is "I miss Moffat!" going to become a more mainstream opinion? Next year? When this season ends?


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it won't

Normies are loving this crap



Malcolm Tucker will be the 12th Doctor


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It might come with time. Unless Chibnall delivers a genuine hook soon, only the pathetically indoctrinated fans will still give a shit, because god knows this isn't going to be captivating the nation for much longer at this rate



really? why?



Yeah. It only took 2 years for the public to go from "Based Moffat saving us from RTD (and making a good Sherlock Holmes show too)!" to "Moffat is the devil and we need to burn him at the stake!"



he is a B-list american celeb, the most we ever got was Eric Roberts 22 years ago

or maybe Tony Head because he was in Buffy

No American celeb did new who

I wonder if Chib got him through his Law & Order contacts


the kind of thing he usually does are not related to sci fi or fantasy



ah okay. I still dont really recognise Noth, so that's a funny one to me.


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lads shitposting about S11 on /tv/ is well fun, it's so easy to mock!






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That's where all the defenseless boardies are at. Fish in a barrel.


Can't find it on 4plebs, but does anyone remember the delgado rumours about series 10?


>intros a bit fucking shit

>doctor arguing with epzo while yaz wakes up is funny

>supporting actors are performing better than the main cast

>I ave a soft spot for the "cast getting split up with two opposing factions/people" trope

>Ive made a terrible mistake

>Jodie's acting got like twice as good as soon as they entered the tent.

>Getting some RTD vibes, the exchang rate joke is complete tennant i like it desu

>The explanation for them teleporting into space is pretty satisfying desu

>These graham/ryan scenes are what chibnall does best imo,

I think grace dying might not have been so pointless and shit if we get more of this.

>was starting to think angstrom was more interesting but the whole "im doing this for my family" meme is played out.

>epzo is /who/ whenever someone tries to find meaning in chibnalls works

>Guard action scene was rubbish, but the target practice jumpscare was funny


>This call of duty scene feels pretty forced desu, "WHERES THE RELOAD" is classic chibnall comedy

>"Did i not mention, I am REALLY smart" TWT

>"why is it always ladders?" good line

>"thanks for waiting", "always" more good lines

>Jodie does that thing that Smith did where during close ups her eyes flicker between looking at each of the other persons eye,

once you notice it you'll never stop seeing it


>living cloth is a pretty cool obstacle ngl

>im honestly really digging the ryan dyspraxia subplot


>Cigar explosion is another satisying solution, big fan.

>dual winners, i like it.

>fucking based epzo

>we're stuck, who could've seen that happening

>inb4 tardis noise

>yeah there it is kek

>I fucking love this extreme closeup on jodie and the tardis

>Honestly im not completely against this tardis set, the little touches like the mini tardis and biscuit maker are kino. it's still a bit wanky though

This episode was so much fucking better than ep 1 it's not even funny, it's still netflix trash but im honestly impressed chib is going with the series arc and doc lore dump



>im honestly really digging the ryan dyspraxia subplot

Is it really a subplot if he just stops at every ladder but is completely comfortable picking up an alien gun and trying to shoot robots



the tardis looks fine close up but shots like this are fucking uggo and i hate it



wow thats a good point, I didn't even pick up on that.


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How hype are you guys for Arachnids in the UK?

>people on GB are saying its RTD level dark

>eviscerated corpses

>spider like creatures

>13 gives Yaz a "shock of her life"

>'Is the woman she's trusted so long really a hero after all? Is she even her friend?'

>"This might be where you can argue that the new approach is, for the first time, seen uncluttered by any of the old approach."

>terrible dilemma

>Chibnall said the ending scene in the tardis is his favorite scene in the Series

>Chibnall said in DWM that Chibnall(writer of episode) was going to stick around 'for a long time, I promise you' implying the script is GOAT

>McGannChan insult in episode

Its going to be GOATER than GOAT.


by the end of the episode im really disappointed with the conclusion of the plot from a holistic scale, i think the dual winners thing is nice but I was really expecting some twist with angstrom turning out to be the bad one in the end or some shite.



You may yet experience the "kino hangover" effect where you slowly sour on the episode after watching it, this happened to me with Before The Flood.


The most kino Torchwood episodes (Adrift, and Fragments/Exit Wounds) were so dreary that they wouldn't fit at all with the tone Chibs is trying to do with Series 11.




you're completely right, im terrible with the kino hangover, i liked TUAT initially.


dunno why that sent xd



TUAT has some pretty great scenes though not gonna lie. Especially towards the end. It's also super fucking comfy a lot of the time. It's just after a while the shit settles in and you realise that the good bits of TUAT are peppered fairly lightly throughout the ep



Is the tone of s11 not dreary?


even Moffat-hater extraordinaire is struggling to defend this shit, though he's clearly not ready to admit the truth yet




Not as much as Torchwood's darker episodes were.


seriously whats the go with this doc lore dump though, whats the madman gonna do?!?!?



Pick your poison

>It's a retcon about the Doctor's childhood


>The Doctor had a child we don't know about



both are fucking based, I live for people getting verged over series wide retcons.



What if Chibnall's too scared to actually go through with it



>Countrycide - It wasn't aliens this time. Humans can be horrible monsters on their own

>Adrift - Sometimes when you rescue children, they're going to be such hollow shells of their previous selves that the parents will wish you didn't bring them back

>Fragments - If you try to save your loved ones, UNIT will send you to a military prison and you'll never see your family again

VNA Dark Chibs was best Chibs.



Imagine if this is all just set up for Carole Ann Ford returning in the christmas special?



>Exit Wounds



I'm hoping it's option 2 because that would be fucking hilarious in every single way.


I really love how Angstrom and Epzo literally vanish when the episode gets bored of them.


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>mfw S11 was entirely a ruse and from special onwards they go insanely hard on lore play, references and metatextuality


The timeless child is the Master. The Master never grew up. Chibnall thought The Doctor Falls was shit that he's retconning all the new who masters as a clone from the time war and starting again. Eric Roberts is back



f-f-f-f-f–f-fUCKING BASTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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>mfw timeless child might mean we're getting the "Susan regenerates" plot I've wanted for years, but handled by Chibnall of all people



>the timeless child


>absence of time




>Scherzo but with Ryan and Graham forced to talk about Grace's death



>they get merged together and the dyspraxia comes with it so by the end of it Graham has an understanding of the struggle Ryan has been going through his entire life




Seems like you guys might be memeing but that's 300% more kino than anything Chibnall will come out with



honestly i wouldnt even be mad if chibnall just hased out 20 year old big finish plots and said they were his



Rob Shearman as showrunner is what I want. It would be diluted down, because he might not produce pure kino 11 times a year, but it would still be fuckin great


I hate how tryhard the cinematography is, if i see one more fucking drone shot im gonna kill the chib.


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I'd be happy with literally any version of scherzo. absolute earkino


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spoiler alert for scherzo



the new intro is fucking barbage, unironically about 5x worse than capaldmans



it's the only thing I like so far about S11 desu



I'm part of /who/, and I'm positive about Series 11 so far. Below are some in-depth reviews on Ep 1 that, although positive, are still very in-depth, and with perspectives not seen on /who/.



I can't wait for your thoughts on Ep 2!


Sleeping, and dealing with RL issues.h


Call of Duty, I've been training for this


why couldnt ryan have been a weeb instead of a gamer, we NEED a weeb companion NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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I hope 13 isn’t afraid to indulge in some physical violence like 4 and 6.


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13 literally did Venusian Aikido in this ep.



I like the line about venusian nuns. Pertwee learned to fight from girls.


still cant believe its called rosa



why not?


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Bajo is back today


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How much are you looking forward to this, compared to, hm, other things?



thoughts on "the timeless child"


Seriously though, episode 1 has 13 mention her family are gone (possibly dead?), and then episode 2 mentions a "timeless child". Is jumping to Susan first too much of a leap?


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I'm nuclear

I'm wild

I'm breaking up inside

A heart of broken glass


Deep inside

The abandoned child


I like the title sequence. I don't see what the boardies are on about it being vaginal?

>Shakey cam

Oh boy. This is going to be shit isn't it?


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remember when Jenna fucked Prince Harry lol



they actually shook the set a bit.





>could have had jenna

>marries a seppo instead



>Attempting to escape a crashing spaceship by running directly in it's approach and oncoming path rather than to the side, or getting behind it.

This is Prometheus all over again.



Are they trying to give the audience dyspraxia?



Weren't there dunes to the left and right? The way they ran seemed like the fastest way they could run away



I actually thought if they had turned they would have been hit by the wings. It seemed too wide to turn from quickly enough



Yea, but that ship is a hell of alot longer than it is wide, and a 1/6th of a mile uphill i'd imagine being a quicker jog than a mile of runway.


Bradley Walsh's acting style REALLY makes me think of Michael Craze, and I don't really mean that in a good way.


>That'll do!



Nice classic reference there. Kinda.


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>timeless child

We're not seriously doing this shit, are we?


Those blaster noises sound a bit reminiscent of another shit franchise about space wizards, maybe the desert setting is adding to that. Ryan's kinda funny. This is going to sound very sexist but the doctor seems quite matronly or maternal, "going on about it"



>I mean there's no way Martha would be accepted as a black woman AND have Shakespeare enamoured with her.

He wrote love poems about a black woman he was enamoured with. It's heavily implied in the episode that this was Martha herself.


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you rang, /who/?


>shoes perfectly white in a desert.


Can I get a google drive version of ep 1?


That moved alot faster than the last one. I thought it was much better over all actually. Come to Daddy


Don't much like the interior. The console dispensing biscuits/cookies is just asking for a misogynistic comment.

I struggled to give a shit about epzo/angstrom, Yaz is boring as fuck and I can't figure out why she's there. I think I liked it. 6/10



Whatever happened to Gray? Is Big Finish just gonna pretend he died in Children of Earth?



Yay, I'm sad-anaon from earlier. Glad you liked it. I do need to rewatch it but I like it a lot more than TWWFTE.

oh that COD bit was…kinda gay



pretty much agree, It's really disappointing how useless yaz has been this entire time, I can't think of a single moment thusfar that expanded on her character while Graham and Ryan have had several each



elaborate tho


no, hunter, leave.



Why should I? I love it here. It's people who say things like that which make me consider it, but I truly want to stay.




Also, I'd like some elaboration.



Sure I will! I'm not going anywhere. Thanks for supporting me, whoever you are.


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sad that it feels like the show has no real personality to it anymore, im not really enjoying myself.


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Better than last week but still not great. Dialogue is really grinding on me and I guess we're right back to using the sonic screwdriver for everything now. I wonder if the BBC told Chibnall if he wants a bigger budget he's gonna have to up the use of the sonic to sell more toys. The TARDIS interior is pretty grim and a bit of an eye sore. Next week looks dull to be honest.


Oh yeah, technically, this is an "everybody lives" episode.


Series 5-6 main villains: A mysterious religious sect who utilizes ceremonies and tricks of the mind to trap the Doctor.

Series 7 main villain: A force of nature who has taken physical form to take vengeance against the Doctor after so long.

Series 8 main villain: An old ally/enemy of the Doctor's who wants to become his friend again, but her murderous tendencies are too hardwired in her brain to comprehend what she does only harms the innocent.

Series 9 main villain: A myth, a legacy, something that haunts the Doctor to his very core but one he cannot truly grasp. Could it be himself? Could it be his companion? A question that brings him back to Gallifrey and drives him mad.

Series 10 main villain: The dead and dying brought back through cybernetics, a symbol of everlasting stagnancy, tearing apart through floor after floor as the Doctor makes his path to a new change.

Series 11 main villain: goofy predators who put teeth on their faces









I'm glad you liked it more too boo. The COD bit was a bit much, him running away was great though. Hope you're feeling better.


I can't think of anything she's contributed either than momentary hetero distraction.


No, kiss my ass hunter.



>Dialogue is really grinding on me and I guess we're right back to using the sonic screwdriver for everything now.

But the sonic is being used more so as a scanner than a weapon. Notably, the Doctor never uses it as a weapon.

By the way, one thing I like about this ep is the worldbuilding. It feels like an alien world. I also like how the Doctor doesn't know the money currencies. It continues the theme of this Doctor not being the center of the universe, in plot terms.





What about the world felt alien to you, other than the robots and there being more than one sun? When they came across the ruins, my friend looked to me and asked 'oh is it meant to be a petrol station?'

The world just looked like any generic Desert environment with some lake and a few hills mixed in at the end. It didn't feel alien at all.

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