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"/who/ Cares?" podcast on Series 11: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz80wZ00_JjSaS2ZRrno1Pg

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Do I have to say it? edition

previous >>177204



I like that bit in the middle of the trailer which is basically a condensed version of the series 11 trailer, with all the guest actors looking up dramatically. Series 11's just like 'let's do that but with nothing exciting to go with it.'


The God Complex is such a good title. Post other episode titles with double meanings. I'll also add the Power of the Daleks


DOCTOR: Just keep looking at me, Craig. Right at me. Just keep looking.


DOCTOR: Well, because, because, because I love you.

CRAIG: You love me?

DOCTOR: Yes, Craig. It's you. It's always been you.


DOCTOR: Is that so surprising?

(The Doctor puts his arms around Craig's neck and uses the sonic screwdriver on whatever it behind the definitely not a lift any more scene behind him.)

CRAIG: Doctor, are you going to kiss me?

DOCTOR: Yes, Craig. Yes, I am. Would you like that? Bit out of practice, but I've had some wonderful feedback.

CRAIG: Doctor, no. I can't. I'm taken.



Closing Time.



>The Time of the Doctor

Good answer!






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It never happened guys.


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I got revisionism


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The Big Bang

The Magician's Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar


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Alien Bodies is a clever title. N8 will get what I mean.



as someone who's read the book and doesn't remember why could you tell me



Doctor is an alien


Ten Little Aliens is a clever title.

Because the original title was something else



I keep forgetting that


Best BF title?



Peri and the Piscon Paradox


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and the main villain is an alien without a body, as well as the final act taking place in Mictlan



A Death In The Family



Yeah it's a deceptively good title. What a fucking book.


I said best title, not best audio ;) har har har



world enough and time





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Martha made an alien woman break her traditions and sentenced her to hell



>A Natural History of Fear

>Horror of Glam Rock

>He Jests at Scars

>Terror Firma

Any of them



she killed the master, so she was going to hell anyway



as expected


He Jests at Nilso Who Never Felt a Dick


Idea from a friend of mine: the Doctor only starts to visibly age when they don't time travel

>1 looking like an old man when he left Gallifrey

>uhh 3 wasn't really on Earth that long so his ageing is just the same as Pertwee's natural ageing

>8 looking older in Dark Eyes than all his centuries of adventures before being because of his centuries on Orbis

>11 ageing on Trenzalore


I love watching reactions to Utopia from people who have only seen all of new who up to that point since when I first watched it I had seen none of the relevant episodes that are brought up (Parting of the Ways, Doomsday, Gridlock) but I had seen a lot of classic episodes with the Master so it's fun to see people with complete opposite knowledge react to it


Gayest BF title?



Night Thoughts



How do NewWho only people react to it?



They have strong reactions to all the new who elements returning and the culmination of the past three series but they get confused by the Master. I just watched one who was thinking Yana was an aged Jack before the reveal


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In case anyone is interested in following on their own since I won't be able to stream this for a couple of weeks.

>1-Soul Cake


>2-They're Coming


>3-Hodder's Folly


>4-The Lord of Misrule


>5-Hide and Seek




Made by the same people behind Dorian Gray and written by Guy Adams it is genuinely the scariest release produced by Big Finish that I've listened. Eve Myles plays the lead and isn't even the best performance in the set. Hide and Seek and Solstice sent shivers down my spine almost every scene.



Sloath! Thanks so much for doing this!

We finished Torchwood series 2 in stream yesterday and really, really missed you for it.

I'll have to listen to the second half of this set!



Listen to it all in one go, each set is very interconnected and well worth a relisten



I will do that! I hope you have more free time in January!


Owen and Inato fuck!



now don't get too excited


owen and inato fuck.


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inato mug



that's better


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I thought Genie was supposed to be cgi just modelled on Will Smith



I expected exactly this


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is that a tv show or a movie or what?



based vinay


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movie, live action movie, remake


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skelly was consulted


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I like the sets and costumes a lot.





MARTHA: Because the thing is, it's like my friend Vicky. She watched this show, public broadcasting, there were six million of them all watching, and this show was called Doctor Who. And she loved it. She did. She completely adored it. Spent all day long talking about it.

DOCTOR: Is this going anywhere?

MARTHA: Yes. Because it never looked at her twice. I mean, it liked her watching, but that was it. And she wasted years watching it. Years of her life. Because while it was around, she never watched anything else. And I told her, I always said to her, time and time again, I said, get out. So this is me, getting out.


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Is this from one channel, or what your subscriptions look like in general?


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Just from one channel, I also subscribe to Bowlestrek, the Dave Cullen Show, etc.



what's the chances he's really overweight or something but left it out of the drawing



i bet his hairline is significantly worse as well


broke: the doctor must keep the timeline secure by making sure rosa parks is arrested

woke: the doctor changes history so that pompeii happens



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Okay, I take back the hairline comment.



can we get an irl photo of ginger cunt dude?


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What if Classic Who had stuck to the Season 7 format of one 4-parter and three 7-parters? Which stories would have suffered/benefited the most from this?



ok this man is definitely bald in real life


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u need 2 make 1 4 ur-self

all the best,



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arrest cristiano



no u need all the different facial expressions and smirks 4 when u are btfoing a sjw




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stupid woman



are u going to bed soon?




Maybe, why?



The eleventh one should come out at the start of 2019


Fuck Moffat for making the guy see Donna at the end of Forest of the Dead. That shit is so unnecessary and just makes me sad



>Fuck Moffat

He is the type of guy to make a k1 k6.



do u want a bed time story before u snooze?




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i will tuck u in to bed kiddo


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get u some hot coco and sing u a lullaby


there is a certain /who/re I would like to tuck into bed, if you catch my drift



Anyone I know?



starts with N

ends with O


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When someone says they don’t like Series 11


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>I AM ACTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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new years special spoiler


nurse poo is dead


/who/ is poo



its becoz i put neo 2 bed. bless his heart



What's this chad doing here?


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he's probably banging korean chicks as we speak.



how mentally retarded would you have to be to make this?


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kinda late but

>The Eleventh Hour

>The Impossible Astronaut/Day of the Moon


>The Magicians Apprentice/The Witch's Familiar

>The Pilot

>Asylum of the Daleks

>Deep Breath

>Partners in Crime

>Smith & Jones

>The Woman Who Fell To Earth

>New Earth

The Eleventh Hour is a fucking masterpiece.

Also I literally can't remember anything from Smith & Jones other than it having the Judoon in it and quality-wise being just fine, I suppose I should rewatch that episode soon





Hello frenlos

miss me?



>C H A V

>P U S Y





220 years ago if I said the president had golden teeth I was right, but if I say now I’m called an idiot! #liberalhypocricy


daily reminder that the christmas special was changed to a new years special because there wont be any doctor who next year thus there would be nothing to honor the yearly dalek contract.

that way chibs can show the trailer with a dalek this year and then the actual episode next year and avoid any brouhaha



>11 at the bottom

wtf. matt smith wasn't that bad.



series, not docs



But there wasn’t a Dalek in Mysterio



2013 specials after Series 5 and 2009 Specials after Series 11



there was one in Pearl's announcement short



Sometimes I remember Bill met Daleks in her first story.



Sometimes I remember I’m gay



Sometimes I remember GWAAD is a pedo


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I don't want to sound like a gamer here, but is there some sort of groupthink chamber where all of these media site people just circlejerk about how much they miss RTD and will slurp up any shit as long as it doesn't say "Moffat" on it.



I'm not part of cult of moff like a certain trip

he was not perfect

but this is outrageous



It didn't make any of the mistakes Moffat made. You see, Moffat did interesting things, and took risks. By not doing anything interesting, or taking any risks, Chibnall has avoided all the mistakes Moffat made. Moffat sometimes had a dodgy character arc, Chibnall got rid of character arcs. Moffat sometimes had a plot that was messy, Chibnall got rid of plot! Series 11 truly is astonishingly adequate now!!!




Is there a more NPC opinion than hating S24?



Time and The Rani is the only bad story in s24, the others are all comfykino



remember Doctor Who TV's review calling Jodie fearless and the most brave performer in the history of the show because she "seduced" the solitract who was using a female body



can you imagine past doctors reading that speech out at conventions? i can't because i can't remember what she said or how she performed it


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series 9 because that picture looks kino and series 9 was kino



aladdin looks CUTE



You know he won't fuck you, right?


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Behind the scenes image from the /who/cares podcast


Sometime I member that chibnall put 1 special and 18 months of nothing between his "recruitment year" and his next series


pantrick tranton



I'm almost morbidly curious to read that now. I need to know how someone can have an opinion that abysmal.



Do you piss yourself laughing?



>The Woman Who Fell To Earth

could apply to Thirteen or Grace

>Demons of the Punjab

could apply to the assassins or to the metaphorical demons plaguing the two brothers


could apply to the name of the store and could also apply to Charlie blowing up at the end

and on the flip-side, rather than a title with double meanings, The Battle of Ranskoor av Kolos has absolutely no fucking meaning whatsoever


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>Kerblam! is referring to Charlie exploding

my sides





The Name of the Doctor



the pilot


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>implying chibnall would do anything so based




If BBC won't commision new NuWho target novelisations next year… It's gonna get nasty.



legitimately ageist



>Unfortunately, Capaldi missed out on this opportunity. He entered the show near the end of Moffat's tenure as showrunner, and ultimately rocked a sort of "same old, same old" vibe. It wasn't his fault, but such is show business.

series 8/9/10 have a really different vibe to the matt smith era what the fuck

>In no way whatsoever is this article trying to throw him under the bus

oh fuck off

not finishing this article, why do i read things that make me angry



I'd actually really like a Demons Target novelisation, Vinay could really explore the historical stuff in a way he couldn't fully fit in to one episode




he had time, if he was constrained it was his lack of competence


A take so bad it killed the thread.


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post cloysters


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Reminder that Dalek eyedots are silly



I'm trying to imagine being so fucking stupid that not only would I legitimately hold such a terrible opinion but I'd also, like some kind of defective audio clip, keep sharing it every thread like it's something to be proud of. I simply can't fathom a mind capable of this sort of thing but also coherent enough to type and upload images and solve captchas. The only possible explanation is that it's some deranged attempt at comedy, which still posits an intensely defective mind as it's not funny or interesting, but at least brings it into the realm of possibility.

You need to grow up.


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I can't condone this foolishness…but then, love has never been known for its rationality.


Remember when we were talking about /who/ cares? That was fun.



applies to >>178132 and >>178131



No one could explore the partition of india in 50 minutes or whatever. It's impossible. A novelisation could explore the historical figure further



What did you mean by this



I wrote figure when I meant period. Don't know why


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Best to worst:

Last Christmas

The Husbands of River Song

A Christmas Carol

The Time of the Doctor

The Runaway Bride

Twice Upon a Time

The Return of Doctor Mysterio

The Snowmen

Voyage of the Damned

The Christmas Invasion

The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe

The End of Time

The Next Doctor


Reminder that Drashigs are good.


ANNE DROID: Rose, in geography, the Grand Central Ravine is named after which ancient British city?

ROSE: Is it York?

ANNE DROID: No, the correct answer is Sheffield.





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what if we make a trivia competition?


Sorry, what did you say? Did you mention, "the rules"? Now, listen. Bit of advice. Tell me the truth if you think you know it; lay down the law if you're feeling brave. But, Daleks, never, ever, tell me the rules!


DWE of s6 having super high highs and very low lows?



my life


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What if we, as a collective, all got together to fix… The world cup?



more like…



… of soccer?


gig economy


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reminder of toys?


resolution spoiler

singular dalek, no army




did we not already know that? maybe I just assumed that for some reason




all speculation



oh right fair enough. are u excited



mildly excited to see how 13 will interact with the dalek, im hoping its not as shallow as the finale



Ever the optimist


i wonder if time war will be brought up at all



t. Gally



is he the only one here?



>he'll rise higher than ever before and then fall so much further


Right across the world, in word, just one thought at one moment…




the what war? is that timeless child lore?



The only what?


Resolution of the Dalek



s11 truly lover



series 11:

>dalek: welcome to the dalek gameshow, prepare to lose

>doctor: come on you've got to tell us how to play first

>dalek: :)



Yes, he is the only one.



There's 2 if u include chib



he does not post here



thats what u think


What do you think of Shada?



I like parts of Series 11. I even like the scronch.

Overall I'd still rate it at the bottom, in large part because I like Series 2 and 6 more than most people.



Then why does he keep posting spoilers here?



when I watched the VHS rip with TOM's segment

I loved


Time to leave the Battlefield.



I thought it was gay just like you



wtf i never expected an accurate answer, this is perfect



but happy gay or faggy gay?



Nilsos both


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>the special is literally stealing the premise of Dalek but making it shit and adding extra shit Chibnall bits

Every time I think this era can't get worse it surprises me. It's impossible, I hate it, it's evil, it's astonishing. I want to knife it to death.


who actually is skelly? i missed what he did

i like him on the podcast



>who actually is skelly?

Who or what are the Ux?



He's the guy that devil's advocate every post and posts political images with DWE a lot. Also doesn't wash his long hair and has a pet monkey.



He's the guy who posts all the leading, bad-faith political questions



That sounds like me alright!



Just because you can’t answer them, doesn’t make them bad faith.



Wash your concave hair.



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Bluray when?



Never, Whelan said he didn't want it to be released


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just the one dalek actually


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Life isn't fair. Oh well, here's to the future…



>and on the flip-side, rather than a title with double meanings, The Battle of Ranskoor av Kolos has absolutely no fucking meaning whatsoever

Before watching the episode I joked about its title, because fans always discuss their favourite episodes and I thought the idea that someone would have to memorise that mouthful was amusing. After watching the episode I realised that would never be a problem.


Reminder Chibnall's first working class character as showrunner was named Karl





travel, hopefully


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I'm fucking sick of your nerds referencing S11 characters by their names as if I could possibly remember any of them at all.


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Reminder that chibnall’s first black character in doctor who has a deadbeat dad

And his first black character in broadchurch had a son in prison



thrilling post, anon



i wonder if loz knows something concrete about this. i've seen it mentioned before but i think people just assumed levine is keeping episodes to himself?


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Confession: I can't be fucked with recons, they bore the shit out of me



This. Classic Who is boring enough already.


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mfw watching chris chip's PC plots


Bluepill me on The Reign of Terror



All you had to do was ask TOS' opinion!


Anyone got the covers for The War Master: The Master of Callous?



This is redpilled


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Confession: **I preordered Jacob Dudman's The Nilso Chronicles


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Confession: I want to [redacted] Jacob Dudman's [redacted] and [redacted] [redacted] his [redacted] until [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] [redacted] [redacted].



I was too much of a pleb for them on my first watchthrough too. The upside of that is that I now have a bunch of serials I've never actually seen. It helps if you have something to do with your hands while you "watch". Can you knit?



>It helps if you have something to do with your hands while you "watch".




Don't worry, I know something he can do with his hands. Tweet positive things about Big Finish


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Recons+narrated soundtracks

Narrated soundtracks



Episode audio


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Dud the Stud



Don't let Mirrors see this.


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bring me le knitting xD


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Quick, somebody convince me not to pre-order the War Master boxset!


<Like you, Nilso, I am a homosexual.

>Noo-o, I–





Dudman should be an Osgoodish- companion to 14



What the fuck. What's this chad doing at Big Finish?


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So did paltrakki's ship have exactly 31 cryopods?


Dudman's 11 is insane, holy fuck


Listen, I would never say this in front of Neo but, is Dudman /who/'s new muse?



oh hes just so dreamy 😍



>A wild Ood stalks the forests, carrying an antiquated phone

Nevermind, I just read this again lmao. I don't need convincing


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>christel btfoing tennant's mannerisms




wtf christel's being funny


christel has so much charisma compared to the girl that does doctor who access all areas, it's depressing


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dudman or ascott?



literally who



the boy ux



dudman's opinions are plebeian and ascott belongs in a terrible version of the show. both dropped!


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sure we may have a cap year, but at least there's this to look forward to!



I wish we had a cap year.


Paddy? What a fanTASTIC decade!



hahaha nilso weeeeeee



but it's "death abyss"


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what about a capy year LOL based


I had a dream that S12's plot was about 13 being an evil imposter doctor and it was up to 11 to stop her. It had 11 being the doctor with 10 as the companion, and chibnall being the bumbling villain who tries to stop them along the way with his plans inevitably backfiring on himself



it's death abyss later you PLEB!!!!



This looks more technologically and conceptually ambitious than S11.



I diagnose your dream with sexism




oh shit u right he says death abyss every time


(tell the others)


13 gets an episode where she has a confrontation with a past Doctor and ends up changing her moral stance/approach as a result. Who should it be?


I was Ramona A. Stone


Kill The Moon isn't as bad as I remembered (self.gallifrey)

I've been rewatching Series 8 (episodes 1-6 were all fucking bangers btw) since I first watched it when it aired. I was thinking about skipping this episode due to how bad I thought it was, that it was unwatchable, but I decided to watch it.

And to be honest the episode wasn't as bad as I thought. The main problem is the premise and story of the episode but it was more enjoyable that I thought it would be. The pace was pretty good, the characterization of Clara, the Doctor and the disruptive influence girl were great, and overall I enjoyed it. The resolution was pretty cool and satisfying as well and broke some tropes, the Doctor seeing the future was amazing. A far cry from what my memory was and what we all say about it on Reddit


imagine Edge of Destruction with thirteen yasmin ryan and graham


irish pub is closed

where to get guinness now

Doctor Who equalivalent ?


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Do you like girls or boys

It's confusing these days

But Moondust will cover you

Cover you

This chaos is killing me




lol try again sweaty xxx



definitely gig


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bi bi love


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Say something nice.


Look ma! I'm lyricposting!



We'll get a whole year without Chibnall's shit writing


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Morph's drunk.


morph tell me unredactedly what you'd do to jacob


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thats not an answer


By the time of Peter Capaldi's 12th Doctor, Moffat had ceased writing stories to fit the characters and began bending the characters to fit the season-long story arcs he crafted around the philosophical issues he wished to explore. Clara Oswald- The Impossible Girl who existed in multiple times - was not so much a character as she was a living mystery for the Doctor to solve and then a deus ex machina who could save the Doctor whenever he needed someone as clever as himself to get out of this week's jam. It is telling that Capaldi's Doctor seemed to suffer from an identity crisis as the show went on, first wondering if he was a good man and then changing personalities in successive seasons to accommodate new characterizations as an aging punk rocker and an eccentric professor.

Chris Chibnall seemed to take the complaints about Moffat's later seasons to heart when he was crafting the stories, companions and new personality of the Doctor while writing season 11. The new season lacked an overall arc, though the finale "The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos" did make use of the same villain as the premiere. The season was also made entirely of one-shot stories, rather than the intricate two-parters that came to dominate Moffat's era as showrunner and extend simple ideas too far.

The large ensemble of companions in Doctor Who season 11 seemed to have been created as a response to complaints that Moffat's stories often focused on the companions at the expense of the Doctor. With three new companions sharing her adventures, it was impossible for any one character to overshadow the Doctor the same way that Clara Oswald and Bill Potts often took over the 12th Doctor's stories. As for the new Doctor played by Jodie Whittaker, she proved herself to be a more upbeat and proactive Doctor than the brooding and depressive characters that the 11th and 12th Doctors truly were under their occasionally manic masks. This lent a sense of energy and urgency to the new season that was sorely needed after six seasons of Moffat's management.


Morph what the fuck do you want with Dudman


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>Clara Oswald- The Impossible Girl who existed in multiple times - was not so much a character as she was a living mystery for the Doctor to solve

how do all these people get 90% of the way there and then just malfunction


>the same way that Clara Oswald and Bill Potts often took over the 12th Doctor's stories

lmfao when did the latter ever fucking happen



>The new season lacked an overall arc

I don't get why people keep saying this

The series very clearly had character arcs for both graham and ryan - graham getting over his grief, and ryan getting over his father figure hangups to become more affectionate with graham. You can call the arcs simplistic, dumb and clunky, but to say they don't exist shows you either weren't paying attention or are incapable of meaningful analysis


RTD trained an entire generation of people to think that "story arc" meant "repeating phrase that gets explained in the finale"

It's RTD's fault that people think the S9 arc was the hybrid



I literally cannot decide which part of this verges me the most but I think I'm gonna settle on the old favorite "12's chatacter arc is undefined and he became too wakcy out of nowhere in series 9"



>Clara wasn't even a character!

>Clara was too prominent a character and took over stories that should have been about muh Doctor!







>intricate two-parters that came to dominate Moffat's era as showrunner and extend simple ideas too far.

oh im thinkin im verged



maybe The Pilot? but that's an episode where it's totally warranted to focus on the companion rather than the Doctor

either way I feel like that's one of those meme opinions like "Capaldi was good but the writing was bad"


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>13 proved to be a more proactive Doctor





Mind-bogglingly stupid media criticism of Moffat's era is a genre unto itself. You could write a fucking book about it.


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

This video is from the guy who designed the Abzorbaloff. In it he profanes the Moff and calls Hell Ben terrible.



Sympathy: deleted!


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IMAGINE hating moff


Leave the Chip. It's the Dud I want.


genuinely think hatred of moff and his era is a force of evil in the world



Oh I bet it is.



It's anti-intellectualism desune.


It's quite simple really

Moffat good

Chibnall bad


Moffat good

Chibnall bad

RTD __?


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uhh, er, umm, well, uh…


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>the 13th Doctor is actually going up against the fucking Daleks




Daleks aren't the problem, it's the way Davros uses and exploits the Daleks that's the problem!



She's going to point the sonic at it and make it go boom.


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I really really like Mark Gatiss episodes







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>going back in time to stop the civil rights movement from ever starting

>casual racist


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That's all this year is!


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better written

pillar of hope

better written

very cliched


Remember how Moffat would stream out endless eloquent reams of praise for the show and it why it was so incredible and so important and a big deal and so special, every year, year after year




underrated post


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better written

pillar of hope

better written

very clichéd


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>make it so one lady doesn't get on a fucking bus

>stop the civil rights movement from ever starting


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I really really like David Whitaker episodes


Ingeega? Is that how you pronounce it?


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>tfw you were one of the losers hyped about Chibnall and giving him the benefit of the doubt and now you just want Moffat back








Yeah I can't believe how much I defended him and insisted his era would be good. What a joke.


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I really really like Doctor Who episodes



we don't know what a normal year with chiball is like, we only know what "recruitment year" and "gap year" mean

there's still hope!





why does she do that step forward at the end? It's like she's about to start running but she doesn't go anywhere


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Too early to judge chibnall's era, yes



To compensate for the fact she has to step backwards to do her stupid move



trip back on imm


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tfw The Sontaran Experiment tonight and all its special features


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>tfw dumpster diving into old /who/ threads and seeing Neo be genuinely cautiously positive about Chibs citing his good characterwork in Broadchurch

Lol…just lol

How could we have ever known


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I was even upset that we wouldn't get to see a Capaldi season under Chibnall.


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Link me up next time you do so, I want to cringe.


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>I'm sorry but this criminal has only committed one crime it's really far too early to judge him at this point


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simple as!



Someone go find that full-length rebuttal Neo wrote to the anti-Chibnall copypasta.



*ten crimes, and I have it on good account an eleventh will be committed soon


lmfao i was so sure


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>mfw I genocide five entire planets and the doctor tells me to "travel hopefully"



>Looks like a failed clone of RTD

Obviously meaningless.

>Didn't sort out not doing the christmas special, so Moffat had to suddenly dive in and stop the slot from being lost forever

That is fair, though I understand his reasoning.

>Was indirectly or otherwise responsible for Cyberwoman

Now this just demonstrates the poster has no idea what they're talking about - he was directly responsible for Cyberwoman, at least make your complaints have some coherency. He was the writer, and quite involved in Torchwood series 1 in general (he actually shadow showran series 2 as well). Yes, this is absolutely a knock against him. Make it, instead of a bunch of other points that make no sense.

>Wrote all kinds of bullshit for early Torchwood (aka the bit of Torchwood that is bad)

No, he wrote all kinds of stuff for series 2, much more acclaimed than series 1. This isn't hidden knowledge, the information is freely available. Again, there's little evidence of the poster actually being familiar with Chibnall's career on display.

>Dissed JNT but is still recreating S19

It was silly when Sandifer said this, and it's silly now. We know so little of S19 and it is the thinnest of superficialities to think S11 will honestly be like just because "the show has lore now, and three companions" (note they're not even called companions in the press release - potentially meaningless, but still).

>Drops huge announcements randomly at 10.30pm with no fanfare just because it makes Gareth Roberts happy

Again, nothing really to address here, the papers next day obviously covered it.

>Put an Ood in the loo

What is even the criticism here? Pond Life is well liked.

>Is yet another dyed-in-the-wool fan nut type who is on video sperging about Pip and Jane as a young man

Hardly, he's shown disinterest for the wilderness era and his entire career has focused on character over plot, let alone lore.


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>mfw I was a Moffchad throughout his entire run and knew the quality would drop the second Chibnall was announced as showrunner



Do you think 13 would let off religious terrorists on earth?

>sure you may have killed people but you were tricked into it by someone taking advantage of your religion! you can't be held responsible for that!



>Lost the plot with Broadchurch after 1 season

Series 2 has many merits, although I respect that many disagree. Series 3 was again very acclaimed, both critically and in terms of ratings.

>Is stuffing Doctor Who with recurring characters in his first series because he only knows how to write one kind of show

RTD and Moffat both deployed their strengths as well, because that's how good writers work. Chibnall maps character-heavy storylines onto procedural style plots because that allows him to most effectively craft his type of stories.

>Has never (never ever) written a genuinely good Doctor Who episode

Obviously subjective, though I broadly agree he's never written a "great" one. However, he's not signed on to write an episode, he's signed on to run a show, and he has much more experience and success in that field.

>Will frontload the series with boring Earth/relationships drama because it's easier than writing a plot

Doctor Who is a television show. This over emphasis on plot is bizarre. A story is not comprised solely of plot, and there are hundreds of hours of Doctor Who plots already in existence. Concentrating on telling strong stories through techniques he's honed over his long and successful career is precisely what he should be doing, not writing arbitarily complicated plots just for the sake of it. Even writers like the Nolans demonstrate awareness they're writing in a medium with visuals and actors.



Oh I'm thinkin we got another crime happening soon, that is if you ever end up going through with [redacted]


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>Ended every season of Broadchurch with an anticlimactic reveal disappointing millions of viewers

Patently untrue, series 1's ending was hugely acclaimed, and series 3's was very well-received as well. The high ratings for each successive series' premiere display this.

>Is only known for half-assed "characterkino" that pales when compared to actually excellent writing

So subjective it's near impossible to respond to. Broadchurch works on many levels that have literally nothing to do with the characters; Chibnall has a strong sense of how to use weaponise the geography a show returns to often in story moments, and his focus on cinematography and general style (musical, visual, etc.) above the general BBC or ITV inhouse look shows this. The Chibnall "characterkino" thing is a /who/ meme that's deeply reductive, so twisting it into an insult is not even a worthwhile attack on him in the first place.

>Only increased ep length by five minutes meaning they will still be rushed to fuck (and there will be two fewer of them)

Fair criticism, although there's no indicator he'll follow the sort of pacing that will make it feel rushed.

Overall the post is very ignorant about Chibnall's actual career and style. There are many criticisms one can make against Chibnall…but this post isn't making them.

Some of my own thoughts on Chibnall's style are as follows

*he loves writing ensembles and will do his best to contort shows/episodes into being ensemble even if the premise doesn't really lend itself to that,

*he likes empathising with every character (that sounds trite but it's not a completely common thing, it's noticeable how he tries to humanise some truly despicable people in Broadchurch, and you can see it in eps like The Hungry Earth and Dinosaurs on a Spaceship too when he really doesn't seem to have that kind of authorial condemnation of unpleasant characters),

(more to come)



do you have this without the MAGA on his blanket



*he likes using procedural drama as a blueprint for stories (I'm sure this is part of why he worked on Law and Order UK), this is most obvious in how Broadchurch wears its influences on its sleeve and uses them as a sort of plot fallback (he's clearly more interested in characters than plots, see The Power of Three also, hence using very structured procedural-styled plots underneath so he can move to the stuff he's interested in more quickly) but you can see it in TW a lot too. I'm interested how his obviously huge fanboyism will clash with what seems to be his natural mode of storytelling (light on mythology+intricate plot, heavy on character)

Another thing about Chibnall I've noticed in interviews, and I think this might play into why it's taking so long for S11 to film, is that he's very particular about control. RTD wasn't like that, he was a pragmatic procrastinator with an enormous talent for creating successful TV. Moffat isn't like that, he's very keenly aware of how things change in planning stages to actual production, look at his comments about S6 and the 50th to see how aware of it he is. But Chibnall seems very firm about it. Not as a naive thing, but in that it's more important to him to have more control over the finished product, even if it comes at the expense of other things.

A few quotes

>The Beast Below is probably one of Steven’s best ever scripts, and the production of it was so not what was in the script. I remember watching that and thinking, ‘Oh,’ because it’s a really beautiful, operatic visual piece of writing. It’s bigger than The End of the World, but actually the way the visuals went, something wasn’t quite right on the production of that. The tone of it is odd as well, the tone of it is not the tone of the script. And tone is something that often goes unrecognised as a key component in things. I think it’s always fascinating.


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Yikers this didn't age well.


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Just random matter suspended in the dark

I hate to say it, but each other's all we've got



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i didn't even notice that



Look at his comments about the Silurian episodes here too http://www.starburstmagazine.com/features/interviews/4597-interview-chris-chibnall-part-2-doctor-who-and-beyond He is very stuck on the cuts and how the episode changed in prod and editing.

Look at how he's handled spoiler culture for Broadchurch and the rumours of how he's gonna handle Doctor Who Stalker Reports too, he's very firm on trying to cultivate a certain experience for a show rather than how RTD would privilege press and marketing over story at times, and how Moff would retreat just to the more writing side of showrunner duties and pick his battles when it came to spoilers (see Simm reveal this year for example).

The big quote from Chibnall I find interesting on that matter is this

>But some of this is because I’m also a very hands-on executive producer from pre-production to tx, I’m involved in all the decisions, from design to casting to lighting to cuts to music. So on my own pieces now, like Broadchurch, I help deliver the show we’ve promised to make, that we intended to make. And that’s the hard bit, really. The biggest pitfall in television production is the gap between intention and execution. It’s a very strange and complex process and it has to be shepherded through very gently and delicately, but also with a degree of toughness. A million things can go wrong, from first idea to final edit, and most often they’re not anybody’s fault. Everybody’s trying as hard as they can, working as hard as they can.

(little bit more incoming)


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>it keeps going

Oh dear.



> You can’t really judge things by whether people like them; it’s like what your intent is, and how far do you get to achieving your intent. It’s the hardest thing to do in TV, to achieve what you set out to achieve, and that’s why, for me, something like Dinosaurs works, because it delivers what we set out to deliver. Steven wanted a fast, funny blockbuster romp with incredible scale and we managed to do that. Then, you get The Power of Three which is entirely different: much more intimate in its intent but I also think it delivers what it promises: time with the Ponds, and an examination of their developing relationship with the Doctor and each other.

>And maybe that’s the thing about the first season of Torchwood, it doesn’t quite deliver what it’s trying to deliver, because we’re trying to work out what it is and how we do it on time and to budget, and it’s thirteen episodes from nothing.

>So that’s what you aim for, and I think for me, what I’m excited about and terrified about with Broadchurch, is I feel it’s very close to what I intended, and I don’t know whether people will like that

(of course, Broadchurch ended up being a huge success)

>Source of all this: https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/thread/89325347/#89326156


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Why DIDN'T chibnall's strengths from broadchurch carry over to doctor who?



Because he is not actually passionate about making Doctor Who good. It's shallow popcorn fodder for him. The BBC had to beg him to take the job.




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>Now this just demonstrates the poster has no idea what they're talking about

>Again, there's little evidence of the poster actually being familiar with Chibnall's career on display.

why were you so verged, neo?



>Doctor Who is a television show.

We live in a society.


In hindsight, is the Season 19 to Series 11 comparison on point?



Broadchurch's strengths were conflated with its writing, rather than it being genuinely well-written. It's an uncomfortable blackpill but one I'm sure of. The show has excellent production values, an excellent and singular aesthetic, and a fucking excellent cast, all of which mask the shallowness and stereotypicality of the characters. Note that the weak actors in S11, and to an extent some of the performances in early Torchwood, exposed this. You throw Olivia Coleman and David Tennant at anything and they'll make it work. You throw Tosin Cole and Mandip Gill at something…

I do maintain Broadchurch was a good show and there was good stuff in those scripts but I don't think it can be held up as a Sherlock level "he made one masterpiece, how come his skills didn't transfer over?" type aberration in Chibnall's skillset.


I was annoyed at how much the post got spammed and, lol, how much of a negative tone it was setting for the general. I was hopeful, plenty of people were hopeful. So much has changed.


No, much as I hate 5, Davison is genuinely a good actor.



>No, much as I hate 5, Davison is genuinely a good actor.

Is that the only serious fault you'd find with the comparison?


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big oof


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Don't get hype for Chibnall


Watch out for Chris 'Sex Gas' Chibnall

>Has never (never ever) written a genuinely good Doctor Who episode

>Lost the plot with Broadchurch after 1 season

>Ended every season of Broadchurch with an anticlimactic reveal disappointing millions of viewers

>Wrote all kinds of bullshit for early Torchwood (aka the bit of Torchwood that is bad)

>Was indirectly or otherwise responsible for Cyberwoman

>Only increased ep length by five minutes meaning they will still be rushed to fuck (and there will be two fewer of them)

>Is only known for half-assed "characterkino" that pales when compared to actually excellent writing

>Is stuffing Doctor Who with recurring characters in his first series because he only knows how to write one kind of show

>Will frontload the series with boring Earth/relationships drama because it's easier than writing a plot

>Is yet another dyed-in-the-wool fan nut type who is on video sperging about Pip and Jane as a young man

>Looks like a failed clone of RTD

>Didn't sort out not doing the christmas special, so Moffat had to suddenly dive in and stop the slot from being lost forever

>Drops huge announcements randomly at 10.30pm with no fanfare just because it makes Gareth Roberts happy

>Put an Ood in the loo

>Dissed JNT but is still recreating S19

Warn your friends!

Spread the word!

Add to the list!



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>I was hopeful, plenty of people were hopeful.

I was hopeful too, and used to defend him. Fortunately for me I've never used a trip.

>much as I hate 5



Find one of his more recent ones from /doctorwho/ about how the gap year was OBVIOUSLY never gonna happen



It's season 19, but worse in every possible respect. At least 19 had comfykino like Visitation and Black Orchid or nice stuff like Castrovalva, Kinda, and Earthshock.


james blake, blake the snake



This lad fucking KNEW


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Why are they even doing this gap year? What was the explanation given by the BBC? Why can every other show manage one full season every year but Doctor Who cant


imagine, however much of a rosa parks "fan" you are, learning of someone's profession and instantly stating that they'd "better not be like" a historically known racist who was in that profession



she had a t-shirt that said "spirit of rosa"



chibnall is used to an 18 month production schedule with broadchurch


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I intentionally haven't watched S19 in ages so I'm not the best to speak to the comparison.





everytime i think chibnall couldnt get worse, he does


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Because they work so very hard on the episodes, they simply need the extra time.



Please sTOP I'm legitimately on the verge of tears thinking about how much Chibs has fucking broken Neo


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>Series 11, episodes 1-10


>avg episode length 50.5 min

>Series 10, episodes 1-12


>avg episode length 46.75min

Where did 55 minutes go?



>Chibnall isn't that stupid or incompetent.

fucking kek


>blake the snake, they called me

<it can't be!


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To be fair, this felt like a common-held belief at the time. Regardless of how you felt about Chibnall's writing, it seemed like he was going to be more savvy when it came to behind-the-scenes stuff and marketing to try to bring Doctor Who to the forefront again, like in the RTD era.


>Series 12

>8x55 min

how would you feel?



>Put an Ood in the loo

whats wrong with this



Because that extra 5 minutes of episode runtime really adds up

Never mind the fact that they're only making 10, it's a difficult job


Broadchurch was 8x45 minutes, so 10x50min was actually a step up for chibnall



They were among the Vanquished of Ranskoor Av Kolos.

No but seriously it's pathetic that he needs this long to produce significantly less Doctor Who than RTD or Moffat did.



also 2 Christmas specials


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Chibnall made a private episode just for himself, because he was jealous of Levine.



>Because that extra 5 minutes of episode runtime really adds up

it really adds up alright, adds up to less than a 12x45min series



also Witchfinders was barely 45 IIRC



I'd feel nothing, as with anything from the Chibnall-era


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After such a long time off the air going into 2020, how is Chibbs going to try to entice audiences back? He can't fall back on a new Doctor or companion and the Daleks will have just been in the previous story.


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>He can't fall back on a new Doctor

he can if Jodie regens by surprise in Resolution



That would actually be a GOAT suprise, but we'd know about that by now. People at the screening wouldn't be able to keep that secret.








stop stop he's already dead


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You just reminded me that "the Vanquished of Ranskoor Av Kolos…" is a line Paltraki actually says in the episode.


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He won't and people will continue to stop watching the show as more realize that he's done nothing to make the show better. Expect his resignation sometime prior or during the airing of series 12.



I used to think the fearmongers saying the show is on its deathbed were ridiculous but posts like this are starting to make me feel like it doesn't have long left. I like Jodie and I didn't hate S11, but there's nowhere near enough fun in the episodes to maintain interest over a gap year.

It's very hard to picture Doctor Who post-Chibnall.


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>we haven't even technically started the gap year yet and we're already this depressed

Please tell me the sadness levels off with time because I'm in a fucking pit right now


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Do you think I care for you so little that being wrong about Chibnall would make a difference?


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>Expect his resignation sometime prior or during the airing of series 12.

God I wish. I feel like he's going to ride it out until the show is put on an indefinite hiatus.



You just become numb to it as the weeks roll by



actually really sweet desuNE



The capaldi era maintained the same downwards trend in ratings after a gap year - it wasn't accelerated due to the break. S10 did have a new tardis team to generate some interest though, so it will be interesting to see how S12 does.


Imagine if Jodie never gets a single new companion.


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Doctor in Distress pt. 2: Save us Steven


“I finally said yes because I love the show to my bones. I resisted it for a very long time, and [the BBC] really had to woo me. But, in the end, I had ideas about what I wanted to do with it. When I went to them and said, ‘This is what I would do’, I actually expected them to say, ‘Ooh, let’s talk about that’, but they said: ‘Great!’”

The Broadchurch creator kept the lid tightly closed on his plans but teased the possibility of featuring a season-long storyline, rather than stand-alone episodes, saying: “Yes. What the BBC was after was risk and boldness.”


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Chibnall actually thinks the fans will spend 2020 avidly speculating about what the Timeless Child might be.



>2005: 13x45 minutes, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special

>2006, 13x45 minutes, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special

>2007, 13x45 minutes, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special

>2008, 13x45 minutes, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special

>2009, 3x60 minutes specials

>2010, 1x60 minutes special (and only because he was leaving)


>2010, 13x45 minutes, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special

>2011, 13x45 minutes, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special

>2012, 5x45 minutes, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special

>2013, 8x45 minutes, 2x60 minutes Specials

>2014, 12x45 minutes, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special

>2015, 12x45 minutes, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special

>2016, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special (only because he WANTED to leave, but Chibbers wasn't ready)

>2017, 12x45 minutes, 1x60 minutes Xmas Special


>2018, 1x60 minutes, 9x50 minutes

>2019, 1x60 minutes


Didn't even mention the slew of minisodes and spinoffs in RTD and Moffat eras



>What the BBC was after was risk and boldness.



On the bright side, I really enjoy that we can all come together and laugh at how unbelievably shite Chibrunner has been



Just the thought of Chibnall giving us a minisode is fucking bizarre



They lost viewership, ads paid less, they made more room for ads in response.

More room to fit in more ads to make up the money



But the show doesn't even transmit with ads on the channel they want people to watch it on.



also i think maybe you need to read the entire post again


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> >"I wasn't walking around with [what I'd do] in my head. No, no, not at all. I never expected to be in this job. I wasn't sitting at home, thinking, 'Well, of course, I'd do it like this…' because I was off doing other things.

I bet every one of you fuckers here has some idea of what you'd like the show to be like if you ran it. And the fucking showrunner doesn't.


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imagine millions of viewers rushing back to the show in 2020 because they love 13, Graham, Ryan and Yaz so much they'll watch them do anything



Is Chibs a fucking unironic NPC? What the fuck is even going on in that head?



I'm constantly thinking about what I'd do if I ran Doctor Who. Mostly because I'm a fucking autist, but still. You'd think Chibbers would have thought about it a bit.


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>end of 2020

>BBC announces they're doing away with the Showrunner model and are instead filling Chibnall's role with two producers with equal responsibility

>yfw it's Moffat and RTD




Imagine the BBC asking Chibnall to showrun Doctor Who and he has to go away to have a think and comes back with the fucking Stenza



Series 11 is, in hindsight, exactly the series of television you would expect a person like this to make.



Moffat and RTD co-showrunning would be fucking Kino. That way, they aren't super stressed as they can share the load, and we get the best of both worlds in terms of writing and stuff.

(yes, I know Moffat did a lot of stuff in the RTD era, but if it was a more 50/50 split between them it would be cool)

Not gonna happen though. :(



>"I wasn't walking around with [what I'd do] in my head. No, no, not at all. I never expected to be in this job. I wasn't sitting at home, thinking, 'Well, of course, I'd do it like this…' because I was off doing other things.

Oh it shows chibbers



I would actually cry tears of joy


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Imagine getting offered the best job in the world and only reluctantly accepting.



Happy verging…humany wumany



I feel like it wouldn't result in each of them doing 50% of the workload, but both doing 100% and stressing themselves out as much as usual except we get a 200% kino series.


I love the "off doing other things" part. What, rearranging his sock drawer?


Do you ever envision imaginary trailers for your nonexistent personal showrunner era of Who? Do you have songs that you listen to while you do this



he's a tardisposter






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I'm trying to look but I can't actually find a source for "5 year plan"

The closest I can find is this sy-fi article


But they created the term "5-year plan" for the headline.

In the body of the article, they include

>Seemingly on board for the next five years (yup!)

Which is based on this source interview they link on the page:


The only mention of 5 years is a quote from James Strong, a director Chibnall's worked with on DW,TW and broadchurch

>Strong says that he is “a mixture of surprised and not surprised” that Chibnall accepted the Doctor Who job: “I know what a big fan of the show he is and I know how much he feels he has a vision for it.

>“Any reticence would be about the scale and length of the commitment. It’s a five-year project. That was a huge decision. He’s in his absolute prime and could have done whatever he wanted, writing-wise. It’s an absolutely wonderful result for Doctor Who. I think Chris, essentially, writes emotional thrillers, and that’s perfect for that show.”

"It's a five-year project" in this context can easily just be a rounded estimate, since it's not even chibnall saying it.

The only other thing I could find is


>The deal not only covers Showrunners Russell T Davies and Steven Moffat’s Series 1- 10, but also incoming Showrunner Chris Chibnall’s yet-to-film Series 11, as well as a first look for Series 12-15.

But even in this press release, it explicitly does not attribute Series 12-15 to chibnall.

Can anyone find anything to suggest that chibnall has actually signed on for a specified period of time? I think the "5 year plan" is fake news based on quotes being sensationalised



literally the only good thing he's ever written for Doctor Who was a minisode for Series 7a



That's if they could actually successfully collaborate. I feel like since they're both accustomed to being the Big Boss, it would be difficult to relinquish that control. God it would be interesting though.



This, he never said it and absolutely nothing in his work history suggests he'd be the slightest bit comfortable committing to it.



You're right. It's a conflation of two separate things - BBC Worldwide have explicitly mentioned a "five year plan" but did not tie that to Chibnall. An old mate of Chibnall's was doing a talk and referred to his Doctor Who gig as "a five year job" but it's not like he'd know what's going down behind the scenes.



why the fuck couldn't Thirteen's outfit look like Jodie's in that pic


Maybe I'll laugh at this post in a few years but I do think the show can genuinely be saved, there are a few very plausible showrunners out there I'm confident could create real kino. I just hope Chibnall doesn't have much of a hand in choosing his successor, and that War of the Worlds and Luther are successful.


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>that picture

she deserves better



I genuinely like Brian desuNE and not in a meme "le comfy grampy" way


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The Mind of Evil? More like The Mind of Comfy. Tonight's a rather good night.



Yeah I'll believe you, your chib production predictions are always spot on :^)


Whats that non-fiction Doctor Who book that has the face of Doctors 1-8 on the cover. I can't for the life of me remember what it was called but it had the history of the show and each doctor throughout. I used to get it out from the library all the time as a kid. It wasn't the handbook.



Too soon kinda.


The "5 year plan" involves 2 gap years.


Saying P.S is good way the biggest fucking cope from us during the pre-SDCC era



how is it a 'prediction' when hes talking about chibs past jobs



I hope he makes it 3. Or 4.


"What the BBC was after was risk and boldness," he added – but ruled out killing the Doctor in episode 1, quipping: "Ha! Then the title would really make sense!"


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I want a version with S C R O N C H faces


female doctor was a mistake right now


>"What the BBC was after was risk and boldness"

And Chibnall looked them right in the eye and said "too bad"



2018 marks a true regeneration for the franchise, with a five year evergreen strategy built around a commitment to a solid content pipeline, delivered through platforms relevant to the BBC’s audiences.

>a commitment to a solid content pipeline



Fuck off Larry


abc whovians did a compilation of all of jodie's scronch faces



>series 12 ends up airing early spring 2019

>they want to get back to a fall timeslot and Chibs wants another nap so they push filming back again

>series 13 in fall 2020

I really think this has a good chance of happening. Hopefully with Jodie and Chibs bowing out after 2020.



It really wasn't, and acting like gender has to be strategised around like that is lame.



>series 12 ends up airing early spring 2019

this isn't going to happen



Hey, "content" is a vague term. Maybe 2019 will just be full of classic who dvds





In hindsight this quote is so insulting, because it's now unambiguously clear that the "risk and boldness" was purely casting a female Doctor.


S11 with all the scripts exactly the same but olivia colman as the doctor



The mistake was Chibnall. Honestly, even as much as he's mishandled it, casting a woman has probably still paid off in terms of raising public interest.


Everyone will cope fine with some of 13's traits coinciding in a shitty way with her being the first woman Doctor. Everyone is coping fine right now. Nobody will give the slightest shit by the time the second, and third, women Doctors roll around. Casting a woman is the genuinely bold and good thing Chibnall did and all his faults don't make it a bad idea.


I understand the hate for Chibnall and wanting him gone, but I don't understand why you'd want Jodie gone too. She deserves a chance to shine. She has so much energy outside of the role, it's the writing that's holding her back.


>More than 11 hours of new content in Autumn 2018


Does this include the classic who re-releases?


I just think that for the first female doctor, it was a complete fucking waste to have it be such a boring interpreting, there will NEVER be another "first female doctor" in the history of the show and the Tippie furniture was squandered



Epic autocorrect,

*The opportunity was squandered


Naoko Mori for 14



>there will NEVER be another "first female doctor" in the history of the show

Not to skelly it up but devil's advocate: maybe that's not actually such a harmful thing in the long run. It'll be good if female doctors just feel normal in the future.



Based. You're absolutely right. And I think it's important for the 14th Doctor (and beyond) to be female too, because if they hop back to male than it makes it look like backpedaling, as if Jodie was a mistake or aberration.



I agree with this too, I still think Jodie isn't the best possible choice but I do want to see her under someone competent before she leaves



>it's the writing that's holding her back.

More like the entire ethos around the production. She could absolutely have given a more interesting performance even with these shitty scripts, but there's no impetus for the lead actor to bother pulling the extra weight to do that when nobody else cares.



I agree with that and I'm glad it's the norm from now on, but that still doesn't change the fact that there was a real chance for something different this time around that wouldn't make sense in the context of the second/third female doctor



>It'll be good if female doctors just feel normal in the future.

That's the one thing Chibnall did right. He's kept the "lol I'm a woman now" jokes to a minimum. It's possible that having a boring Showrunner for the first female Doctor was a good thing. Moffat is clearly the superior Showrunner, but Jodie would've been grabbing her tits and yelling "I'm a woman now!" in her first scene if it was him.


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What did Chib write in the script with this scene?



I get what you mean and I know we both raged for similar reasons about the whole scripts-written-for-men thing, but I don't think not making a huge deal out of her being the first women Doctor is the worst thing in the world in the end. If a future woman Doctor suddenly starts getting more interesting genderbased storylines, that's really not that different from the fact 1 and 2 didn't have any storylines examinating their masculinity (some would even argue it took until 12 for gender to be a big focus). It doesn't lock off the Doctor self-examining their gender. We lost the most logical point for it but we lost the most logical point for Susan to return after TUAT happened too. We'll live.


I genuinely think 13-24 should be women honestly, but I know that won't happen. 14 should definitely be a woman. After that I think opening it up more would be fine, I just want precedent to be set beyond Jodie, it should be normalised more. It's not like there aren't tonnes of actresses out there that wouldn't be based for the part.


>14 is a woman

>Chibnall is still showrunning



I agree with a lot of this but I think making 13 so submissive and reactive is worse in some, more insidious, ways. But it will all blow over and if 14 is a woman and a character well performed it won't have mattered at all.


DOCTOR: Becka wasn't kidding. These are hard times for women. If we're not being drowned, we're being patronised to death!


You have 30 seconds to name an intelligent performance choice you saw Whittaker make in S11.


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I'm so fucking game



nah Jodie under RTD or Moffat would've been GOAT

Series 11 would've been shit even if Chibnall cast a dude. Sorry Kris.



Dangerously close to sounding like the actor of another certain blonde doctor



the way she acted in control while krasko was strangling her


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going full retard when the Fez reappeared out of fucking nowhere at the beginning of Kerblam! was fun



where's /ourguy/ Ianto



Imagine the Girl Who Died esque scene explaining why she looks like Tosh lol


I think 5 did a lot more damage to the show and character desune, but again I would blame JNT more for that, like I'd blame Chibnall a lot more than Whittaker (though I do genuinely think she's a problem in her own right)



I enjoyed this scene too


Honestly we needed a fucking Julie. I know Niki Wilson got a name bump but she isn't the primary producer the way Strevens is, or Julie was.


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I can't believe Neo can look at that chiseled god and his magnificent kino and still call himself a k1.5


Strevens is the dick Cheney


Chibnall is just stupid, naive and lacking in imagination. Strevens is complicit. Strevens is the worse evil and the more cynical hack by far.


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Fuck 'redacted'. Let's Kill Strevens.


wE wAnT to cOmPeTe wItH aLl ThE bRiLlIaNt neTFliX sHoWs aNd AMaZoN sHoWs aNd HuLU sHoWs


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>HuLU sHoWs


the way Eccleston switches from the overjoyed "fantastic!" to basically screaming the word at the Dalek when he realises its gun is broken is pure kino



strevens is the dick



chibnall is the balls

and we are the hole


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.




i wanna fuck that bassline



Like Jodie, I don't want to ruin Marigold by putting him in Chibnall Who

And we almost certainly wouldn't have gotten the absolute kino that was the Demons of the Punjab version of the theme




>A CGI Alien thing appears but we don't tell the actors where it is and just let them sort of guess which direction to look at.



Was it the SDCC panel where they mention how they had to look at tennis balls and then when they looked back at the shots they noticed how they were all looking in different directions and laughed about it?


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Reminder that Strevens was a producer on An Adventure in Space and Time.


cool parnell


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>I genuinely think 13-24 should be women honestly

Me too, but I didn't want to verge anybody by saying that. At the very least, I don't think we should see another white male in the role for the next cycle.

I think 14 will probably be male though (unfortunately, since I think that would be dangerous), but the first non-white Doctor.


>I think 5 did a lot more damage to the show and character

Now I'm curious to hear your hot take on 5. I haven't rewatched the classic series yet, but on my first watchthrough he was my favourite.


Back before Chibnall/Jodie I wanted a female Showrunner before a female Doctor, just because I was scared anyone else would fuck it up.



>Reminds me of the golden snitch scene in the first Harry Potter where they have it follow Harrys gaze but Oliver Wood is next to him looking in the complete opposite direction



Who are they referring to?






thrilled about capaldi, hoping that moffat won't stay around


uncool parnell



state of Mandip's fucking eyelines


Who are candidates for a female showrunner to replace chibnall?



Bruh moment



Dollard obv



Moff in a wig


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this whole moment is like it's straight from a kids cartoon

>wacky word

>wacky word?

>wacky word!




Oh I didn't see the time stamp, thought they were talking about Jodie's casting.


S11 main cast feels like an above-average amateur theatre production at times



none of them have any idea how to pretend to be looking at something that's not there



imagine complaining about a very brief moment of doctor who feeling like a kid's show lmao, especially in one of the least kid-friendly seasons yet



>one of the least kid-friendly seasons yet

This is complete nonsense and you fucking know it.



You're probably joking but she has showrun before, and is probably the only female writer for Doctor Who that has.


>co-executive producer

>sam hoyle

What does this even mean? I'm pretty sure Strevens is just listed as Executive Producer along with Chibnall. Aren't they all technically co-executives then?



It's not so much the "feeling" that matters, it's that the dialogue is taken straight out of every single generic kids show ever. It's right up there with "don't just stand there, run!" which chibnall also fucking used in ghost monument



The co stands for cock



what? It's boring and visually dark and extremely lacking in jokes. what about S11 is appealing to children?



How long until someone in S12 goes "Awkwarrrrrd…!"



Or "ooh, that's gotta hurt!"



I see your point but I think in that case it's pretty innocuous. The gag they're going for is "cute alien suddenly looks viscous" and so "pting. pting? pting." is an easy way to accomplish that.



The worst cliched line was in the finale where the Doctor unironically said that killing Tim Shaw would make Graham just as bad as he is. Absolutely Baffling that somebody with enough industry experience as Chibnall could be so unaware. It's like he's not even trying.



>extremely lacking in jokes

It's got plenty of jokes they're just all really bad. The show is absolutely relying on children to care about it because it looks "cool" and there are funny monsters and the Doctor acts like a fucking face-pulling whizzkid who does wacky poses again. This entire meme that it's "dark" and not aimed at children is sheer absurdity.



>I gave him a taste of his own medicine Doc!

>Graham you're the strongest person I know! <3





>The show is absolutely relying on children to care about it because it looks "cool" and there are funny monsters and the Doctor acts like a fucking face-pulling whizzkid who does wacky poses again. This entire meme that it's "dark" and not aimed at children is sheer absurdity.

what fucking show did you watch lmao

tonally, S11 feels aimed towards older audiences but without any of the actual plot/character complexities that typically come with that. kids don't like boring, anon


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>if you kill him you'll be the same as him!

>no I won't, I'll be alive



S11's character development felt like it was simplistic and dumbed down for children, especially with its portrayal of grief, but while doing that it also made everything else relatively dry and serious in a way that doesn't particularly appeal to kids




Not to mention the scene immediately following where the Doctor just straight up tells Ryan that she's actually not very strict about her no weapon rule and her rules change all the time. It's like Chibnall accidentally stumbled upon some tension for the first time (The idea that Graham was going to get kicked off the team because of breaking the Doctor's rules) and then scrambled to undo it.



>Hey Doc, you remember when we wanted to kill those massive spiders but you said no and instead we trapped them in a sealed room to slowly suffocate?

<Of course I remember, what a laugh!

>Well I did the exact same thing with Tim Shaw, locked him up in one of those stasis pods

<Good on ya Graham, killing is wrong, I'm glad you made the right decision to have him trapped forever in a tiny chamber instead. Even shooting him in the foot would have been wrong so I'm glad you were the better man


Series 11 - Netflix-esque cinematography, sub-CBBC writing.



but she doesn't have a cock

as far as we know



He looks too much like Josh Hartnett and is too white for my taste.



>Series 11 - Netflix-esque cinematography

Someone post that screenshot where the camera is inexplicably behind Ryan's ear.



what the fuck, what episode was that from


Wayne Yip was an alright director from what I remember. Can't be too much worse that the average from this last series at least.


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Ryan and Yaz are suppose to be 19



Yeah, Yip is the only remotely appealing thing about the special IMO. Obviously he can't save Chibnall's writing but it at least ought to be visually up to par.



Were there ANY decent directors in Series 11?



I thought Aprahamian (Arachnids/Witchfinders) was alright.



Sallie Aprahamian?

Witchfinders was one of the best of the series and Arachnids in the UK had some good moments too



Aprahamian was the only one I thought was not kinda shite. Couple good moments and shots from her at least imo, but she didn't really blow me away.


>tfw it's hailing



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Should Moff have stuck to his guns or was shuffling off the New Paradigm Daleks a good thing?


Remember how Class had its generic bad guy come back in the finale, and then had the main characters use the genocide device to fucking wipe out his entire species, the one thing the Doctor told them not to do?

It's looking more and more based in hindsight



That's honestly a big part of why I respect PNess so much more than Chibnall

Class presented a moral dilemma with no nice solution and fucking committed to one side, accepting the negative consequences that came with it.

Chibnall can't even present a moral dilemma for one minute without immediately nullifying it with some excuse that lets them skip it entirely


Imagine if 13 actually had to kill the ux to save earth



The only real problem was the bright plastic colours, the same design with a more metallic paintjob would have been good

I think he should have committed although I did quite like the size difference in Asylum of the Daleks between the new ones and the RTD ones and the new ones being in charge, that was all pretty cool



Fuck why couldn't it go this way it'd be kino



>At the very least, I don't think we should see another white male in the role for the next cycle.

Oh that goes without saying. It's a role that lends itself to diversity anyway, and I think makes sense for a second cycle to have the Doctor being different identities than they're used to, although I doubt Chibnall has ever thought of that lol. I still want Paterson Joseph to have a crack at the role desune. That evil lawyer from Broadchurch sticks in my head too, she had a really interesting screen presence and I'd love a really no-bullshit, acerbic Doctor like 1 or 6 but obviously different like that. 14 being a woman and POC is obviously the best solution but yeah I'm not especially hopeful we'll get it.

My issue with 5 is basically two things and honestly both you can blame nearly as much on Tom's era and JNT in general - I think going more human instead of more alien after 4 was a bad choice and made the role and character smaller instead of bigger and more expansive, and I think using the same type of story engine (Doctor and companions travel around space and time getting into scrapes) for a fifth Doctor locked it into becoming what the show was instead of just a version of it (4 using that structure was tolerable because he modulated through such different aesthetics and his era was very distinctly written in-general, 3 obviously didn't use that structure at all). It made Doctor Who instead of a show that could be loads of different Doctor Whos, if you know what I mean? Davison's quiet, mildly annoyed performance didn't help things. He's a good actor and he performed the role "well", but I think it was such a profoundly boring and restrictive direction to take the character, and the show. Luckily 6 made things more interesting, and even flipped the show's structure up in S23, but we all know what happened there.

Yeah a woman as showrunner would be great, shame there's so few in the industry, at least in the UK.


That's good to hear. You may nominate a replacement.


Yeah he's not bad.


That was very based. Penis did have a vision.



>I'm sorry Ux, you beautiful creatures, I wish I could just lock you up forever like we did the spiders and tim shaw, but I have to kill you



Tosin's not even looking remotely close to the hologram


Why didn't the BBC promote class better? Why didn't they think of a better name?


I can think of a better name for Class

The School Where…


"Coal Hill" would have been a better name


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>"But I'd become like them. I'd be no better than the Daleks."




1x01 The Doctor Arrived

1x02 The Coach Had a Tattoo

1x03 The Gang Stayed at Home



(Doom) Coal Hill (-ition)




Will 13 be able to kill the Dalek?


>Have you been watching that new bbc sci-fi show? How is it?

>Bruv that show is pure fucking class


Big Finish should commission PNess to write audios of his planned story for series 2



Her character is inconsistent enough she'll set aside her passivity for it.



She'll beseech it to become a good Dalek, that won't work, so she'll prank it and make it kill itself.



She'll trick the dalek into killing itself and absolve herself of responsibility, just like she did with tim shaw in woman



Some force outside of the Doctor and her friends will destroy it.


Will 13 be really really mad (maximum scronch) when other characters take up arms to defend themselves from the Daleks?


Daleks can't be held responsible for their actions, they were brainwashed by davros. The kaleds are the real victims of every dalek story.



>It's too soon to judge Jodie's performance


Remember that idea of building up the Stenza as a big threat, then having the Daleks obliterate them to demonstrate to new viewers how big of a deal the Daleks are?




She'll tell Graham its the King Stenza and let him kill it





>We need to shoot down that thing.

>No! Guns, never use em!

>But Doctor, I thought you said that was only back when I was new because you had to lay down the law?

>I told you my rules change all the time, Ryan!



I Am The Doctor is unironically perfect for this.


chibnall is so shit it genuinely astounds me



>lol the doctor lies! xD

oh I'm thinkin I'm verged


this is our perfect ending

chibnall shoots the show in the back


who among us has the strength to do what needs to be done



what exactly do you mean by this. and don't fucking redact anything



Let's meet up


Vocaroo embed. Click on thumbnail to play.


Fine fuckers, I'll speak it plain:



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cursed vocaroo




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very good image blessing at incredibly high speed









is the eaters of light secret kino




>Seppos never had those afternoons getting choccies and lollies from the CTC with their mates after school



Nothing secret about it, baby doll.


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You tell me, mate. I thought it was alright. What's your take?






I enjoyed it but mainly for Nardole/12 comfykino



idk i remember hating it but i just rewatched the last 5min and the crow thing seemed potentially based


Scream of the Shalka | The Eaters of Light


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They look like they're on an awkward first date


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That's the trouble with [redacted]. He's hard to resist.



This is actually incorrect. The colors were fine (though you're right that a more automotive metallic flake really makes them look a ton better), it's the proportions that made the New Paradigm Daleks bad.





The next time on the fucking Pilot spoiled it.



>The colors were fine

They really weren't and it's not a coincidence that they dropped Orange and Yellow completely while retaining white/blue/red for Asylum.


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purest of kino


>that shot in the pilot that shows every frame of the episode before youve even seen them



purest of non-canon


yo reply to this post if you're currently on /who/ right now, want to figure something out


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Who's up for a S11 rewatch!



I can't recall the specific episode where it's discussed (I assumed Magician's Apprentice or Asylum of the Daleks but I can't find it in the transcripts) but I remember a scene where the Doctor said that until he came to Skaro, he didn't realize what being the Doctor really meant:

It meant not being the Daleks.

It's hopeless to even consider at this point, but if the show was being run with any sense of clarity or logic or reality, Thirteen meeting the Daleks would be her turning point.




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>comic dot printing effect

Every fucking time.



I literally never finished Tsuranga Conundrum and I have absolutely no desire to do so




>I don't think we should see another white male in the role for the next cycle.

I think that 14 should def be female. I suspect 14's going to be a non-white female, actually. After that, anything can go from there. Mandating that the rest of the cycle should be non-white-men privileges the idea of "cycles" too much, really.






>I remember a scene where the Doctor said that until he came to Skaro, he didn't realize what being the Doctor really meant: It meant not being the Daleks.

Into The Dalek.



You never got to see the robot sex slave confirming that now his master is dead, he has to die too!



But I fell asleep.





>missing the Pting


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>Mandating that the rest of the cycle should be non-white-men privileges the idea of "cycles" too much, really.

It's nothing to do with the actual cycle, it's about evening the fucking numbers after getting 13ish white male Doctors in a row. Balancing the numbers, giving others a go.



I am currently on /who/.



Funny thing is that I could probably do with a rewatch of 11 more than any series since I watched most of the episodes on stream and I shitposted so hard I probably barely paid attention throughout some scenes, clearly I might have missed out on some of Chibnall's subtle and nuanced writing






Aussie doctor of any gender > female Brit doctor


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This image contains a clue as to what I want to first do with Chibnall.



>Aussie Doctor

I will very heavily pass.



The part where they're on opposite ends of the apartment having the phonecall and its full of comic book-style split screens is the definition of kino



You only watched ten episodes once. It's not fair to judge yet. You have to watch them until you like them.


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Mr. G Doctor when



I don't think you'd be in consideration for the role.


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But how else will he get close enough to Chibnall's trailer so he can [redacted]



This but unironically.


Series 11 + /who/ cares streamathon when?



I'd rather consider one of your rolls.



It's a stockholm syndrome year


what's with aussies adding o to the end of words


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W-what if I just don't like them no matter how hard I watch Mr. Chibnall



youo gotto problemo witho thato mateo?



Then you do not talk about them at all. 2018 is not the year to criticise this.



fuck off seppo


We need a ""20 something SCOTTISH** female doctor



No spoiler don't care


mirro be like

>im k4!



There's only like two weeks left of 2018 though. Then we're all cleared for take off. All engines are a go. The shit is gonna fly, Chib.




What are good 20 something Scottish actresses?



>Karen Gillan is 31

Well now I have no idea


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>tfw everyone has been taking the "no criticism in 2018" very seriously and the second it becomes the new year there will be a mass influx of Chib criticism from all major media sites and Doctor Who ""personalities"" as the entire community massively shifts over to pure chibhate

Based, and redpilled as well. Just gotta hold on a little longer, lads. Vindication soon.



please post this in the new thread, I need it to be there



Done and done, slugger







perspective on this shot is fucked



would actually be based ngl desu



Why didn't you?

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