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Shit Trips 2.5 NOW AVAILABLE! https://mega.nz/#!Uf4EDaLT!bIa_JP_rbyl7Pl9NKq8tLopyOzXJFhlSu6Z4VZnt4Uk

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The Most Notorious Cliff Hanger edition

continued from >>18679


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We post t. orchwood

We post

We post t. orchwood


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nth for Jodie.


How can McCoy and Aldred simultaneously two of the worst actors and one of the all time best duos?


Due to a snafu in the allocation of episodes for Series 26, Ghost Light is given an extra episode while Curse of Fenric loses an episode.

How is Ghost Light expanded to meet the four episode length, and how is Curse of Fenric edited down to reach the three episode length?


I just checked, "BOOM!!!!!" is cut out from the Battlefield special edition. Boycott that shit.


Oh there's Torchwood in the stream by the way.


That 7/Ace/Benny audio where Ace loses her hearing is SHEEP, wish 7's era was like that


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*meets your expectations*


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>Heh. It's good because it met your expectations.



yeah, her


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genuinely chilling shit


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Imagine RTD made Eccleston 10 and let Shalka be the actual 9. So we left 8 to 9(Shalka) and 9(Shalka) to 10(Eccleston) as vague unexplained regenerations.

Cornell would have been very chuffed.


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Do you Believe, /doctorwho/?



Wasn't Ghost Light originally planned for four episodes anyway and they had to chop it down to three? Hence it feeling so hectic and like scenes are missing.


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Let's get this straight

>3 hour audio all written by the one writer, a definite rarity for Briggs Finish

>Guy Adams, same guy who wrote some kino Torchwood monthlies, 7/River's meeting, the All-Consuming Fire adaption, the good 1DA story

>Features the ENTIRE original Torchwood cast together

>Arthur Darvill plays the villain

>"The Church of the Outsiders believe that mankind is about to evolve, to reach out into the stars. Owen Harper believes that Torchwood has to do whatever it takes to stop them"

Basically…could there BE an audio to get more hype for??



The Doctor Who range guys are probably SEETHING that the torchwood guys could put out something that BTFOs them so hard.



Sometimes I do wonder if any of the Who guys do feel a bit embarrassed about how well and fruitfully Torchwood is being run, but then again, if they were that self-aware I think they'd be making the Dr Who audios kino as well


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>"This is a unique production from Briggs Finish. A full complement of female writers, combined with a mainly female cast, a female director and a female producer, creates a distinct portrayal of these courageous women. The stories never falter into melodrama but show the stoic strength of these independent and daring pilots… ATA Girl surprised me with the depth of honesty and grit. It is a beautiful homage to the brave women of the ATA.”

>ATA Girl is a drama inspired by the real women of the Air Transport Auxiliary during WWII. From the UK and beyond, a hundred and sixty eight female pilots, alongside the men, transported a vast range of aircraft from the factories to the squadrons, sometimes flying in perilous weather conditions and without radios or instrument instruction.

>One in ten ATA pilots died.

>PLEASE NOTE: ATA Girl contains adult material and is not suitable for younger listeners.

Basically…could there BE an audio to be more proud of having been released?



Fuck I linked the wrong posts


Is Sesska afraid of snakes?



no she has an intense desire to own as many as possible





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What three stories can they do?




1.1 Up in the Air by Gemma Page

It’s March 1944 and young widow Daphne Coyne arrives at the Air Transport Auxiliary, having signed up to train as a new pilot. Already unsure of her decision, she is shocked to find that her estranged younger sister, Rebecca, has also joined the ATA, hoping for a chance of reconciliation. As Daphne grows close to her flying instructor, the injured former RAF pilot, David, and discovers an unexpected passion for flying, the two sisters try to navigate their broken relationship. But David has family trapped in Belgium and Daphne has a plan that could jeopardise all of their futures…

1.2 Dancing With A Spitfire by Victoria Saxton

In 1942, Glamorous ‘It Girl’, Second Officer Mina Lauderdale is enjoying her work with the ATA, flying her aircraft recklessly and living up to her nickname, ‘The Wildcard’! However, amidst all of the press attention, the partying and the endless flirting, Mina is secretly running away from an unwanted destiny. It’s only when she meets outspoken US pilot Jeanette that Mina finally begins to discover her true self and face up to the reality of who she wants to be.

1.3 Flying Blind by Helen Goldwyn

1942-43, Judith Heathcote has been with the ATA since the start and is one of the few mothers in the Corps. With her husband ‘missing presumed dead’ and her daughter living with her parents, Judith is beginning to question the sacrifices she’s making for the war effort. Seen as a maternal figure by many of her colleagues, it seems that Judith looks out for everyone but herself. So when a chance of happiness arises, she seizes upon it, only to find herself caught up in a series of events that propel her towards an unthinkable solution.

1.4 Grounded by Jane Slavin

It’s early 1945. The end of the war is closer than the pilots realise, but meanwhile there is an unexpected air raid to contend with. When the sirens sound at the ATA ferry pool, the women have to find a way to protect themselves and each other: some making it to the bomb shelter, whilst others are trapped above. Elsewhere, RAF pilot Walter (already traumatised by his war experience) has come to seek solace with ATA pilot Amelia. She and her best friend Widdley, do their best to comfort him, but with war still raging around them, they are reminded of losses suffered… and losses still to come…



the only thing they're missing is a German spy story, a "trapped behind enemy lines" story and a story about some cocky americans being smarmy



>no trapped behind enemy lines

That's how you know they're not lying when they say Briggs wasn't involved


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>Ace, please just once, listen to me

>Professor, I can't. I really can't

>I can't listen to anything ever again

>I'm still deaf*


If there was a huge disaster during the making of S11, like Chibnall was hit by a bus or something, who would be most willing to come back as an interim showrunner to get the series finished and released










Imagine it could only be someone who'd actually ran the show before


So, do people want to change the deadline to the 27th?

I'm up for it, though I don't think we should extend it past that.



Pls no.



But, but how would she…?



I'm leaving here on the 23rd and I'm not going to be back until the 28th



This seemed perfectly settled last thread.


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What the FUG were Obverse thinking?

The fp logo goes on the left hand side now? Why mess with consistency?



I didn't think this through. Then I remember that the Doctor was able to transfer his thoughts in the ep


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Ne Ne Neo. Did you get your LABO yet?


Shit Trips date is changed to the 28th.


But doesn't she look almost exactly like Laura Palmer?


hello testing


mah niggas, how are yall doing?



Where we're from, the birds sing a pretty song


why do have of us nilsos of has the gays



i wonder if there are any doctor who sound effects in here





>season 4 premiere

hasn't TWD been going on for like 10 years now?


Wow Nilso Wow


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>tfw dad asks "when's doctor who coming back on? It has to be soon now right?"


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this but unironically

except jimbo doesn't actually make sense

or is that just me


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Jimbo makes more sense than our minds can contain


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RTD makes most sense, since he's had time away to rejuvenate. BBC would have to chain Moffat to his desk.

Honestly, seeing what RTD would do with the show in 2018 would be really really interesting and although it's objectively bad for the show, I'm not against showrunners returning



Childhood is idolising Chibnall.

Adulthood is realising RTD makes more sense.



Childhood is having actual discussions.

Adulthood is realising shitposting makes more sense


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Childhood is adulthood

Idolising realising is making more sense


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The 50th episode vs the 50th novelisation



why does the laptop say boob on it?



this man speaks the truth



You can see the Queen's cleavage in the episode but not in the novelisation


reminder that the virgin queen was called that because she was unmarried and the doctor did NOT fuck her



i remember an interview from somewhere where Moff said he'd make himself available if it came to that

so that's reassuring, i guess

still plenty of leeway for things to go horribly wrong


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Rare promotional image from The Satan Pit



He already made himself available for an entire year to wait for Chibnall. If Chibnall fucking died he'd be back in the role indefinitely which is hard to imagine



god i wish that was me


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Non novelisation readers be like:


nilso be like


Anyone else like reading through old threads and chuckling at their own shitposts?


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.





Ban Nilso?



No, Bane x Nilso.


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The fact that there are 26 seasons of Doctor Who and only 10 series of Doctor Who tells you everything you need to know about humanity.






is neo drunk or just lonely today


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t. Neo


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


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Neo's recommended videos on Youtube



>tfw you're actually getting soyboy cringe videos recommended to you now thanks to the stream



didn't you read it as an ebook though you cheeky nerd


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I resent your implication of impropriety!


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Wow, so deep. Really makes you rethink the whole identity politics movement.


Anyone else notice that Neo uses exclamation marks a lot more than the average /who/re?



But anon, I'm a huge feminist.



did you do the 'which type of feminist are you' quiz a few threads back?



I have done it before and remember my results.


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I never knew Neo was so based.



What were they?


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>"cast" system


Neo flirts with Edge because in his eyes, Edge is still a woman.


MGTOW is dumb and relies on gross generalisations that are fundamentally incorrect



I'm not sure anyone here actually believes in MGTOW.



>implying Edge is the /who/re I flirt with



You flirt with Ingiga too but that's because you hate gay people and want to build his hopes up before demolishing them completely when asks to meet up with you.



>>19169 is pretty mgtow but it's arguable if it's just pure bait or not



>implying I wasn't referring to dilbert



if only



Dilbert's a femoid?






t. Cats


Remember when Cats said he was unironically ashamed to be a white man in the stream?



I need a screencap for proof



no but that sounds about right



>feeling guilt for something you aren't responsible for

for what fucking purpose



white culture disgusts me. so does masculinity.



t. Nilso


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I love cats



Guilt is not the correct emotion to have, even if you are disgusted by those things.



i didn't say guilt, i said i was ashamed



ashamed literally means feeling guilty



>I love Cats! :OOOO



If loving cats makes me a soyboy, then let's just say I'll let Nilso do my shopping from now on



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>disgusted by masculinity

based fucking cats. i can hook you up with a site that lets you order estrogen without a prescription not memeing



i'm not trans, anon. but i appreciate the offer


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I genuinely really enjoy Cats' sense of humour, appreciation for the Hartnell era, and general earnestness and personality. I know he doesn't ascribe any validity to the term anyway, but I don't consider him a soyboy in the slightest. He's an intelligent, thoughtful young man with a more nuanced eye than he lets on.


I see the world fundamentally different to cats, and the fact that he can unironically believe some of the things that he does bothers me


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based, love you too neo



me either *wink*



nobody asked, cletus


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>Something's inhibiting my enzymes…




>takes the trip off to accuse someone of being a cletus just because they say they see the world differently

this is the problem with cats



I think his willingness to have an actual dialogue about them should inspire some hope surely? He's firm in his views but not thought-terminating in his reactions to others. If your discomfort is just from his views being so antithetical to yours I understand, but that's an inescapable eternal reality of interacting with other people, and the fact you both can talk to (or swipe at) each other instead of locking yourselves down in echo chambers seems an extraordinarily not-bothersome thing to me.



>He's firm in his views but not thought-terminating in his reactions to others

dismissing people as cletuses is thought terminating.



i was playing tagpro, sweetie



I use the term cats coined (cletus) and cats uses the term I coined (boardie). It's called cultural exchange, and it's a good thing.




Now kiss!


That wasn't not the feisty feline though.







wtf don't destroy my narrative that's not fair


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>the wear on those chuck taylors

<tfw the BBC can only afford 1 pair of converse for 4 series.



Undoubtedly, and as someone from a rural area who has had the associated stereotypes lobbed at me because of it I fully understand everything wrong with the term (and remain amused at the absurdity at a term so completely and utterly indicative of why the "cletuses" have made such headway in recent years is deployed despite all that), but if you try and instigate actual discussion with Cats instead of just responding to the insults in kind, he will actually offer points up. He will usually do it in a jocular style, but he will actually offer up talking points. This is the opposite of soyism. He doesn't shrink away and hide his views in a veil of irony or infantile playfulness, he offers them up and can receive the associated mockery and indicative because of that. For all the meta irony in his sense of humour, he is genuine in his views and personality. This is a large part of why I resist conflating "soyboy" as a sort of catch-all insult (like "cuck" transformed into), it means a specific thing, and it's something that he isn't. He is thought terminating in his insults but not in his willingness to actually put his views out there, despite the fact the most vocal of the types of /who/res that talk about politics are the type to ridicule those views.



how long until you ask him out?



As someone who uses the term "cletus" a lot, I completely agree with your assessment of it being problematic. Anywhere outside of 4chan (or 8chan, I guess) I would disagree with and discourage its use. However, I think in this setting it's really useful. The people that use chan sites are generally toxic, for lack of a better word, and rely heavily on slurs and insults to communicate. You can't use the same approach as you would with normal people to get through to them, and so cats did us a great service by providing "cletus" as an anti-bigotry weapon we can use. It's fun, and best of all it works. It actually gets to them and can shut down sexist/racist posts pretty effectively.

Your use of "soyboy" is far more morally questionable, in my opinion.


Reminder that Cats thinks looms should be canon IRL


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>toxic, for lack of a better word

"vulgar" is a better word



In a way, I already have.


We're both well aware we fundamentally disagree on such things and I lack the feline's willingness to protract conversation here on our conflicting views.


Anyone gonna bust out a new short fic for Shit Trips 2.5 in the extended week now? Any Torchwood ideas inspired by that stream yesterday? Some of the most entertaining Shit Trips are just 1 page long gags or quick scene ideas.



they're a great sci-fi concept that just feels like a natural fit for the lore, like an idea that works so well that it feels like it was always there

really an idea that you can chew on

Lungbarrow doen't need to be canon, that "other" stuff doesn't need to leave the 90's

just looms and we're all good

i'm not cats



but IRL though.



I really like a lot of Lungbarrow but really hate the idea of looms the more and more I consider it. I roll my eyes mightily at desexualisation of the Doctor, and I feel that's the ultimate lore example of it (the handwaving of Susan over the decades is the bigger example and I remain irritated the Capaldi years, so caught up in considering Hartnell's era in so many ways, never dealt with any of that). One of the things I'm most thankful to RTD for is so explicitly repositioning the Doctor as a sexualised figure. There were some growing pains with it but I think the show is much better off for what he did in the long run.


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liberate us from the sex nexus


Liz Shaw is the Rani, prove me wrong


The Rani is the Master's daughter, prove me wrong



sterile does not equal desexualized

but what do i know, i haven't actually read the book



anything that makes x less sexual is desexualisation



Looms fit more into a broader pattern of desexualising the Doctor is what I mean, in how they literally take sex out of the equation.

I don't think RTD and Moffat making it seem like Time Lords just have a fairly regular childhood is a great idea either, for what it's worth.

The book is worth reading, I haven't read it since I was basically a kid though.


Has anyone seen the CW capeshit that Talalay directed?


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i fail to see how the doctor's inability to concieve would disencourage him from getting his fuck on

this may be one of the reasons why he left loomsville anyway


Asexual doctor is a nasty little JN-T holdover idea that people like to cling to



Absolutely, although I think RTD demolished it as thoroughly as anyone could, and Moffat pulled the follow-through. The Dying Days succeeding Lungbarrow seems a funny kind of transition of takes on sexuality though come to think of it. 4 was implicitly sexual but JNT's transformation of the Doctor into a more flavourless superhero type figure came with all the infantalisation that implies. I don't think Davison helped either - some would argue his youthful good looks actually brought a more "sexualised" approach insofar as making him eye candy in a way the preceding Doctors hadn't been, but I think that falls much more into the "relatively effeminate boy bands a preteen can comfortably crush on unthreatened" pattern rather than an actual sex symbol or anything. Then again, Tennant was undoubtedly a sex symbol and decidedly geek chic, but I think fandom and audience were very different at that point, and Tennant has a more striking, adult appeal than Davison's boyish good looks.



>4 was implicitly sexual

Definitely truth to this but do you think stuff like "You're a beautiful woman, probably" (GOAT line, obviously) in the Williams era presaged that change even earlier than JN-T?


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oh come on, you can't tell me this man wasn't down to ram


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his sexuality did not necessarily conform to mere human standards of sexuality



That's a really interesting point. I think 4's unbridled bohemian-ness and masculinity, along with his couple-esque pairing with Romana kind of speaks louder than that sort of line which fits into 4's tendency to be much more alien and mad than the earlier Doctors. I feel like in terms of sexuality, JNT made the Doctor less human whereas 4 made him more alien, if that makes sense?


I look at that face and all I can see is boy band style good looks I'm afraid, but I am coming at this as a heterosexual man so maybe I should defer to your judgement :^)


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less perceptive in these areas than you seem to think

i really just wanted to make that joke


N8 changed the format on his blog. I'm surprised he hasn't talked more about the new novelisations…maybe he's been doing it on one of his Discords.


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>relatively effeminate boy bands a preteen can comfortably crush on unthreatened

>"Hi, you've reached the Peter Davison hotline. £3.55 a minute. Here are some words that rhyme with Peter: meter, cheater, centimetre, windcheater…”


Does anyone here have autism? I'd like to ask you a quick question.


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>"Hi, you've reached the Peter Davison hotline. £3.55 a minute.



Do you think Neo considers Ingiga a relatively effeminate streamfag a "straight" tripfag can comfortably crush on unthreatened?



depends entirely on neo's actual motives behind flirting with ingiga


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>"Hi, you've reached the Ingiga hotline. £3.55 a minute. Here are some words that rhyme with Ingiga…"


Lungbarrow is a masterpiece (or should I say doctorpiece)



never say doctorpiece again



I'm not really preoccupied with notions of gender when talking to him, his words/opinions/humour are a lot more interesting.



I love it



and I love it



neo's pansexual


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Was this the show's first doctorpiece?



I am assuredly heterosexual, and believe me I've checked.



Ianto was heterosexual. He still loved Jack.



what's your motive behind acting flirty with ingiga?



beat me to it



Flirting is fun.


My friend, I believe you have a few things to learn - watch this https://youtu.be/VtJFb_P2j48



Making Ianto have that line about how Jack's the only man he's attracted to was such a bizarre choice because the actor comes off as more gay than any other character. It's like those forced lines in S10 about how Nardole was straight. Unbelievable.


Let's put chemicals in Neo's water and turn him gay.



>It's like those forced lines in S10 about how Nardole was straight.




>It's like those forced lines in S10 about how Nardole was straight.

I don't recall those? He may have mentioned some kind of sexual experience with females but that doesn't imply exclusivity



What kind of chemicals?



Pure historics as in in general. But I've got a feeling it's mainly gonna deal with female issues which I don't think is a good idea to bring people in.

Yes I think it will be a good idea to further get back to their roots with a pure historic etc but I firmly believe that since we have a female Doctor, it's gonna be female issue this, female issue that so that they can day "it's okay The Doctor is female" or some variation on it.

And that'll hurt their viewership.



Chillax strawbs



The kind you might find in soy milk


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>Nardole, please just once, be sexually attracted to a man.

>Doctor, I can't. I really can't

>I can't be sexually attracted to any man ever again



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> Sure enough, hidden behind that smiling face was a mediocre actor, and also a multimillionaire snob in the proudest British tradition. Far from being a symbol of rebellion, he was reactionism personified. The Fifth Doctor, optimistic and effervescent, represented an escape from reality. People, kids in particular, had a desperate need to believe in something that had nothing to do with bombs and upheaval. Peter Davison put to screen the enthusiasm of the masses and in return, in a cycle that bordered on perpetual motion, was enthusiastically acclaimed by the same masses.

> The best of the Fifth Doctor's cliches is summarized in a famous anecdote. In the 1982 serial Earthshock, Davison answered the Cyberleader's queries as to the meaning of life with "For some people, small, beautiful events is what life is all about!" Beneath this naive sense of humor, anarchic and surreal, lays the greatest merit of the actor.



>Sure enough, hidden behind that smiling face was a mediocre actor, and also a multimillionaire snob in the proudest British tradition

he what


Sylvester McCoy the man who single-handedly destroyed the series for the next twenty years



Where did you get this from? Neo's blog?



love it




It's about the Beatles


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>McCoy was a protagonist of his times, although a poor actor: to say that McCoy is an actor is like saying that Nilso is an anonymous (a fact that is technically true, but misleading). McCoy embodies the quintessence of artificial art, raises futulity to paradigm, focuses on the phenomenon rather than the content, makes irrelevant the relevant, and, thus, is the epitome of everything that went wrong with Doctor Who.



I know, I was just saying I love the adaptation



The death of the series when he came along, nowt against Sylvester McCoy. He was just the wrong actor for the job, I believe it's going to be the same with Jodie Whittaker. Nowt wrong with her it's just the wrong person to play the part (got no issues with the doctor being female) I suppose only time will tell on the choice.


I love Neo



t. Ingiga


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twink companion when


does neo really have a blog where he types like sandifer?


>I believe it's going to be the same with Jodie Whittaker

baseless assumption



When you put your trip on, GWAAD



Not really. Not in that sense.


I love you too.


Neo's opinions on a twink companion?



He had at least three different pairs



keeping his shoes so worn makes it look like he's been around a while, which I think is good imo



I find it offputting, it's like saying "I want a thicc companion" or "I want a busty companion". 'I want a male companion' or 'I want an Asian companion' I understand, but twink seems a mightily sexualised way to approach it from the get go.


I am /who/'s twink companion.





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> As usual with Smith, Series Seven (2012-2013), produced again by Steven Moffat, is mostly image and very little about the plots. The 77-minute Day of the Doctor, that was supposed to be the centerpiece, is little more than a funereal litany a` la Alien Bodies with Dalek CGI that goes on 30 minutes too many. Smith mooning melodramatic in Nightmare in Silver (from his West End musical about a psychopath who listens to Huey Lewis and the News) or romantic in The Snowmen is either delirious and pathetic, certainly not entertaining. His tedious voice interferes with the slower domestic dynamic of The Power of Three and with the frenzied and tense Cold War (a Gatiss standout). Even when the voice is not a distraction, the rest is hardly intriguing: Time of the Doctor boasts an awfully distorted plot against syncopated beats and layers of electronic drones: not exactly genius. This is trivial "television" that any amateur could make, except that most amateurs would be ashamed to broadcast it.

>Smith died of a cocaine overdose in april 2018.



I believe he wore





I'm having difficulty finding an example of the navy ones so I could be remembering wrong



>implying female companions aren't constantly sexualised

if people can obsess over jenna's pancakes, people can wish for a twink companion



Absolute zero… Poor actress… Was the weak link in Broadchurch… Honestly Time Lords changing gender has only been in the past couple of years… Why is it necessary? Already shown Time Lords and Ladies…why do males have to change into females…other than to satisfy Moffat and Chibnall's idiot PC views? Why not create a strong, individual, female character rather than force one onto a MALE character? That's weak…poor storytelling… After Christmas, after 50+ years of the show, am done with the show… And don't all the morons come out of the woodwork calling me a snowflake, a douche, pathetic etc…simply because I have a different opinion and know the Doctor is a male, not a female… Honestly, I'm not allowed an opinion without being abused, laughed at and ridiculed? Think that says more of others rather than me.



Someone asked my opinion and I gave it.





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>says "got no issues with a female doctor"

>writes an unreadable paragraph that is just whining about having a female doctor

You can't make this up!


How hype are you guys for Sandifer's Caretaker essay?

>people on Twitter are saying its Foreman level woke

>eviscerated gender norms

>cletus like creatures

>Gareth gives Sandifer a "shock of her life"

>'Is the writer she's trusted so long really a hero after all? Is he even her friend?'

> "This might be where you can argue that the new gender is, for the first time, seen uncluttered by any of the old gender."

>terrible dilemma

>Jack Graham said the ending paragraph is his favorite thing on the site

>Sandifer said on tumblr that Elizabeth (new identity of author) was going to stick around 'for a long time, I promise you' implying the hormones are GOAT

>TERF insult in episode

Its going to be GOATER than GOAT.



I provided an additional in the hope of broadening your perspective






an additional comment


Ingiga's opinions on a twink companion?




Are you trying to find out who's the top and who's the bottom?



Additional reply: I wasn't offering commentary on my thoughts on companion sexualisation, I was saying specifically why I don't really jive with the asking for a "companion with sexualised property" style thing. All companions are sexualised of course, I'm not commenting on or critiquing that, just that it's shallower than asking for an X gender/X race/X sexuality/X character property companion. I wasn't saying anyone can or can't do anything, just offering my thoughts when asked them.



>implying they don't just dock each other



It's the glaring hole in NuWho's repertoire, if you know what I mean.


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i don't get it

she resents the caretaker or the article?



Can't it be argued that it's deeper than asking for broader properties like male/female companion, since it's more specific?



It sounds to me like it'll be very positive on Gareth and she has mixed feelings about that?



I believe that refers to the article being good because they were unhappy with having to write it in the first place?



I provided examples of more specific properties, like race or "character properties" (a common one is non 21st century denizen, or alien), the thing with twink/busty/etc it's an inherently sexualised property and comes off as skeevy to me because of that. "I want a companion with the type of effeminate body I find sexually exciting" is more specific than "I want a male companion" but it's also shallower.


reminder that performing masculinity is untenable under trump



>only 6 episodes into the capaldi era and Sandifer is about to drop another all time classic Eruditorum

the absolute madwoman



Yes. Aspie and PDA here.


I don't get it, Sandy is talking about Caretaker being shown to patrons soon, but Time Heist isn't even up for us plebs yet



try writing this post again but in english



Hey man, tell it to Sandifer



We've been like 2 posts ahead for a couple of weeks now.



You fucks






>paying for sandy's blogposts



meant for @ Neo




hey friend, tell it to Sandifer


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>tfw Cloister can see all your posts



If you had as much dough as that poster, you'd do all sorts of zany things


Alright well my question is probably pointless anywho as I know how varied and nuanced different people and their autism can be, but just as a general thing, do you think some autistic people kind of "shelve" telling certain people certain things until it's relevant/logical for them to do so, when giving them a heads-up earlier would be the more socially appreciated thing to do (but presumably not something they'd think of)? Like instead of saying "I'll get back to you" they might just not say that and only get back to the person when they're ready to.



are you thinking of Catterson here?



What's the current status on the Foreman audio?



I haven't heard from foreman anon since /who/ died

has anyone tried emailing him?

The last status update was we needed people to narrate each episode


Every day and night I dream about being Nilso



>mfw you're exactly who I thought you were.


>I'll get back to you" they might just not say that and only get back to the person when they're ready to.

Yes. One just doesn't think about it, particularly if distracted. Or if one does it's a struggle to whether or not it's relevant/appropriate/proper so it's just omitted. It's pretty par for the course.



He is around, trust me. He is around.


Ah okay, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for that!



I'm lazy. I'll get round to it.

If anyone else other than Mr Offerino wants to join in with narration I'm still all ears.


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here's something else i don't get

>On another, however, there’s a compulsive strangeness to this Dalek story. It’s based on what is clearly a kind of batty idea. Fantastic Voyage with Daleks is several miles from the sanest Doctor Who pitch ever. This is not necessarily a bad idea, of course. Some of the best Doctor Who stories ever come from completely insane pitches

how the fuck is this premise pushing the limits of "sanity", like this isn't the sort of imaginitive premise that should be standard for the show. when in doubt, "bizzare" should equal good, or at least headed in the right direction

this is generally the sort of thing that keeps me from connecting with most of Sandifer's stuff. she seems to think that the primary purpose of Doctor Who is not to simply be bizzarre and interesting, but to constantly subvert our expectations



>He is around, trust me. He is around.

you've said that before yet you still don't know the status of the foreman audio?



Have you checked your email for any other reason lately?


There are more forces at work here than you imagine.


NILSO is a Foreman anon



>and she has mixed feelings about that?

That'll be a first. She went silent on Gareth (who she'd previously referred to as a friend) once he started letting his power level show. I hope she addresses it



No worries. With some any acknowledgement at all is a struggle and don't even do the Hi, or Bye thing. All business, their business. It's something they have to make a conscious effort to combat or change.



Especially when you consider that the Into the Dalek concept was pitched to Moffat by a bunch of game devs



I really like the touch of Offerino, a fanfilm Doctor, doing the narration all himself desu.


She was talking about him the other week on Twitter wasn't she? Unless I was just reading old tweets and got confused.



wait what the fuck


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and then there's this bullshit




In what world is "the characters shrink down in size to go inside a body" a crazy idea? It's a standard trope at this point, and isn't even the first time Doctor Who did it.


Maybe. I'm not up to date on Sandifer lore.



god no



>how the fuck is this premise pushing the limits of "sanity", like this isn't the sort of imaginitive premise that should be standard for the show. when in doubt, "bizzare" should equal good, or at least headed in the right direction

Shrinking down and going inside something is standard Doctor Who.

That 'something' being a Dalek is where it tips over into strange, because the idea is fundamentally unintuitive to the Daleks' role in the show. No-one has ever given a fuck about what's inside a Dalek, they just roll around killing people, which is what makes going inside of one so insane as a premise even for Who.


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This is really funny!

t. Nilso



Like with British politics and culture, Sandy sometimes stumbles with Star Wars because she's not really a "native" of it; she freely admits it holds little interest for her and her work on it is pretty much all couched either in Doctor Who or just writing articles to get views/keep the readers happy. Not to invalidate her opinions at all, but to contextualise why she might go even harder contrarian at times talking Star Wars, or write things like that clearly ignorant of Lucas' actual career (perhaps willfully so, given his love of the monomyth, her mortal enemy).



Yeah the idea came from some devs who were making a Doctor Who video game and their idea was going inside a Dalek. They checked with Moffat to clear the idea or something, and he liked it so much he wanted to have it for an episode.


>No-one has ever given a fuck about what's inside a Dalek

Google "dalek anatomy".



>No-one has ever given a fuck about what's inside a Dalek

Their very first appearance teases this though


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>They checked with Moffat to clear the idea or something, and he liked it so much he wanted to have it for an episode.

moffat just fucking stealing video game losers ideas. did he even credit them?



lol no


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capaldkino is back on the (australian) menu, boys!

why is he doing promo work



For Dracula!



>the project








fuck me am I actually going to watch this shit



Waleed Aly will tell Peter hes been replaced by a better Doctor because shes a female



it's a sunday so no waleed, just lisa wilkinson after they swiped her from channel 9



not based



>so no waleed

What are some Doctor Who episodes where the good guys win?




is rove on? I dont watch the project because im not an idiot



Victory of the Daleks



Let me rephrase. No-one has ever given a fuck about what the casing of a Dalek would be like to walk around inside while ant-sized. All we have ever needed to know about a Dalek interior is that there's a big ugly mutant sat in it, everything else is purely academic (or stuff for illustrations in fan annuals >>19350).

The episode itself actually struggles with this problem, because - since the Dalek is just a mutant sat in a tank - "inside the Dalek" ends up just translating to some dull looking sets, a slide, and one gunge pit, rather than anything that actually gives us a bold new perspective on the Daleks. It's just an arbitrary pretext for the episode to try and make up exciting things on top of, rather than an interesting setting in itself.

And it's a fundamentally unintuitive premise for a Dalek story because if you're walking around inside the Dalek, it can't do the one thing it's good at - shoot you with its death ray. It's only near the end, when 12 reaches the mutant and starts mind-linking with it, that being inside the Dalek gains any useful relationship to how Daleks actually function in stories, because 12 is then able to influence how the Dalek acts out in the real world (where the actual Dalek story is happening). For most of the runtime, the episode is just walking around a big metal playground.


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it's these people tonight


Literally talking about dog shit instead of Capaldi



capaldi is potentially just the last 10 minutes



pcaps on the project 2 years ago


>channel 10 in charge of broadcasting a livestream that doesn't constantly stutter and drop out even though it's 240p

I'm on the fucking nbn



>everything else is purely academic


>or stuff for illustrations in fan annuals

Yeah, evidence that people are interested in it.

>anything that actually gives us a bold new perspective on the Daleks

"Evil as engineering" and the whole morality as malfunction thing was an attempt at that, you might not consider it bold but it's a big part of the story. Literally getting inside the Dalek's head also feeds into the Doctor's character arc for the series.



>No-one has ever given a fuck about what the casing of a Dalek would be like to walk around inside while ant-sized

Has anybody given a fuck about that for ANYTHING? Is that how these episodes get made? Some fucking weirdo in the meeting going "heh I wonder what it'd be like to get inside there and walk around yknow, just really explore that space"

I do actually agree with the rest of your assessment though. It makes sense


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>No-one has ever given a fuck about what's inside a Dalek, they just roll around killing people

when will this meme end

everything that makes the Daleks interesting revolves around their psychology/philosophy

it's the old Nation/Whittaker dynamic

if your Dalek idea is something that Terry Nation would come up with (formulaic shooty action setpieces w/heavy-handed facism metaphors obvious to anyone with any knowledge of history) it might be a bit shit

if your dalek idea is something David Whittaker would come up with (Daleks have wacky scheme/project presented as an organic outgrowth of their overall universe-conquering philosophy, which manifests as a twisted parody of human philosophy/infastructure and (hopefully) provides insightful and original commentary on the nature of evil and the dangers inherent to the overriding "progress"-oriented mindset inherent to modern society) you're on the right track



>there's the companion each doctor has along for the ride who, coincidentally, is always a young woman

Any Doctor Who episodes with only male companions?


the project gets put up online afterwards so there's no need to sit through the next hour of dreck



weren't 4 and adric on their own at one point?



Yeah Keeper of Traken and the beginning of Logopolis. Technically Traken had Nyssa but that was before they decided to make her a companion so you could easily say it doesn't count.


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>tfw you reread the BF fanscripts you started writing and actually enjoy them

based, past me






end of time



the massacre



Not that anon, but wanting to know what exists inside a Dalek and physically shrinking down to ant-size and exploring the physical insides of a Dalek are two different things even if they share some minor similarities.



>everything that makes the Daleks interesting revolves around their psychology/philosophy

That is my exact point. The matter in question with the Daleks is how they think and act, not how many flanges they have on their interior shit nozzle.


into the dalek, haha what were they smoking when they came up with that one?


who wants to bet that one of their opening questions is some derivative of 'what do you think about a female doctor'


How do we "fix" Doctor Who?



by using deepfakes.



make it fun again



How would you deploy deepfake technology in a Doctor Who story? I have a bit of it in an upcoming Shit Trip



Can't talk about it here. Too public. Can discuss it on the secret trip discord.

your story sounds really interesting, can't wait to read it



Perhaps on stream tonight.

Deepfaking kind of fits the brief for ST2.5 nicely, "alternate" Doctors, alternativeness and all that.



>Perhaps on stream tonight.

I was just trying to make it sound like i was doing something shady, I don't really have any interesting ideas about deepfakes


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architecture/design is an extension of ideology


>evil as engineering



Your deepfake of having an interesting idea worked on me!


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Are deepfakes the key to saving Doctor Who?


Capaldi in the stream




tfw stream won't work for me



just greentext the highlights for me if there are any pls



Careful now Neo don't want to get shit talked again about deepfakes, do you? They're immoral, remember?


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The humans in The Doctor Falls be like




What are you referencing



a certain someone was very critical of anyone who even mentioned deepfakes


How kino would Snyder Who be?






I picture a less self-aware Saward era.



Not me. Don't know where you got that from





i have a one word essay due next month help me /who/



I don't think he'd be the right fit culturally, he's a very American filmmaker, probably completely unaware of Doctor Who, and tends to do his best work with ideas and properties he's mulled over for decades. I'd be all for the show using some of his style though.




There's your one word. Good luck



The word I would choose is _Nilso_.


>capaldi asked who the most passionate fan he's ever met is

>some fan flashed him her thigh

>they ask him about being replaced by a woman

>capaldi says he found out about woman doctor because he went to his tailor and they asked why the BBC was getting women's clothing for him

>what is Malcolm Tucker's response to some recent australian political thing

>calls the politician a dildo xd


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Here's a pretty juicy shot of a big dick


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i have a ten episode series due at the end of the year help me /who/!!!



Just deepfake some Classic Who; no one will notice



>what is Malcolm Tucker's response to some recent australian political thing

>calls the politician a dildo xd

for fuck's sake


pip and jane are irredeemably shit and any attempts to redemptively read their work are even shitter

looking at you gareth and clayton



I expected nothing more and got exactly what I expected.



t. chris chibnall


File: efc4b1833085b4b⋯.jpg (86.8 KB, 442x386, 221:193, Loom Lad.jpg)





that sheepish criticism he gave was the best thing he's ever written


I support a Charlie Brooker showrunner



>a ten episode series

fuck I already forgot it's only 10 eps

who's ready for the 10-part Great Vampire series lmao



that's not juicy, that's greasy


I mean is there an unironically worse writer/writing team to write for Doctor Who on multiple occasions than Pip & Jane?


Chris…Our new showrunner. He's a real Doctor Who Fan! Ahem…MOFFAT!


Remember when we used to get 13 episodes?


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hair's growing back



One of the things in this image is JUST.



Feels like a decade ago.


seriously though why was capaldi on the project? what was he promoting



channel 10 has been JUST for the better part of a decade now



He's at a festival in Queensland for scifi stuff



I'm waiting for the episode to be uploaded to watch it myself, I'll try either finding a way to download the video or screen record it if there's anything noteworthy


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>tfw I'm not there


It has been 8 years since last Doctor Who last aired 13 episodes on consecutive weeks (Series 5, 2010).

It feels like a minor miracle that Moffat managed to keep all three of Capaldi's seasons the same length after the absolute clusterfuck that was Smith's split seasons, even if we did lose an episode a year.


It's been 9 years since Doctor Who was fun (David Tennant's specials year, 2009).




It's Supanova comic con and he was in Melbourne yesterday and today, going to be in the Gold Coast one on the 28th and 29th. Pearl Mackie and John Barrowman are also there



>yfw they decrease the episode length every year until we only get to see 5 minute minisodes each christmas


redpill me on the specials, why did they exist? how close were we to having another full-length RTD/Tennant series? what do you think that would have been like?

I'll accept your answers in essay-form, if need be


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Remember when Torchwood was fun?


2016 was the most fun year of Who. Prove me wrong


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if by fun you mean sexual fun



Both David Tennant and RTD agreed with each other to leave after Series 4 and some specials. The BBC tried to keep both of them for another season but they had made up their mind



What's this from?



Tennant busy with Hamlet.

Gave Moff time to get S5 and the big changeover in production ready.

Gave time for the RTD to Moff transition to be smooth as possible.

No chance of another RTD/Tennant series, they were both ready to move on. I can't even fathom an RTD S5, RTD was out of ideas by then.


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Any /who/res seen Gotham? Does it have any merit whatsoever?


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>Torchwood isn't fun!



I'm intrigued by a Batman-less Batman series with all the absurdity it apparently has, but there is no way in hell I am watching an American show with that ungodly amount of episodes, let alone a network one.



>I can't even fathom an RTD S5, RTD was out of ideas by then.

Master as the new companion

Rose comes back because she's not satisfied with Metacrisis-10 so 10 has to make her a 2nd fuckclone

Jack returns and does something

Timelords are the season baddies


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>Steven Moffat isn't base-



>Does it have any merit whatsoever?

do you?



she cute



d-don't bully me anon



This cyberman bouta get finna dabbed on



Some people on /tv/ seem convinced that it has genuine artistic merit at points, while simultaneously being a ridiculous rollercoaster ride

I'm morbidly curious about it myself


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didn't you watch it anon?


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>Hiring RTD to bring the show back instead of Parkin

What are some of the biggest BBC fuck-ups?



what's the lego mcgann meant to be?


If we can't "fix" Doctor Who…then how do we destroy it?



Unironically get Snyder to direct a movie adaptation

it'd be kino but it'd also get the entire franchise cancelled



Bringing RTD and Tennant back.



What do you mean?


What would be the "have Batman kill loads of people onscreen" equivalent in a Doctor Who movie?



What's that?



>What would be the "have Batman kill loads of people onscreen" equivalent in a Doctor Who movie?

Showing the Doctor's childhood in grand detail maybe?




Sometimes, to get by, JNT brought in some hacks,

But these two, when all else fell though, over n' over he brought them back,

They really were the worst of all,

They'll drive you to alcohol,


Awful Writers!


Penning blighters!

Oh no, it never fails

Cause once they're involved

Somehow they always sink it all


Awful Writers!


Penning blighters!

Oh no it never fails

To be a snooze

You know they're killing Doctor Who!


Awful Writers!


Penning blighters!




You know how BBC/BF can't use Grace and Lee from the TV Movie because Fox owns their rights? And sometimes there are difficulties with using monsters like the Daleks because their rights are with the Terry Nation estate, not the BBC?

What are some other examples of such things? Bits of Doctor Who not used in Doctor Who because of rights issues?



>What would be the "have Batman kill loads of people onscreen" equivalent in a Doctor Who movie?

Having the Doctor kill loads of people onscreen, no?


Don't it feel good to ride a bus?



Eh, he's caused enough harm and NewWho is built on the idea that he genocided two races, I don't think it'd be quite as big a deal. I like >>19467 more as an example of something that seems antithetical to how the character is written.



Can't see k9 being used anytime soon



The Beatles' song Paperback Writer in Evil of the Daleks. It gets edited out on some recons/audio releases.



Omega will be back soon at least



29:06 is when the capaldi interview starts

no idea if this is region locked or not

[spoiler]capaldi said ‘shit’ at 7:30pm on live tv wew will he get in trouble? I don't know what political event he was referring to since they only say "you saw it earlier in the show"[spoiler]



Nothing will compare to the rumors of his return in S6 though



>tfw you fuck up a spoiler tag


I miss crtl-s



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looks like paul got some youth back.



Good shout.


Perfect, just the sort of thing I was after!


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would it be better than what we got in the end?




The scene of Ian dancing to the Beatles in the Chase is removed in the american release of the dvd


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>this time last year

fuck me was S10 a year ago now?


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This explains a lot


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here we go



Woah, interesting.



>Moff is a Tegan guy

Now we know why he praised the Davison era so much.


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>he prefers the inferior companion

figures, only real patricians understand



I doubt it, "shit" isn't that big of a swear word and Australian television isn't as puritanical as American. One time the show's host mispronounced the word "country" (or something) and accidentally said cunt and all the others hosts ribbed her about it



yeah, hitler youth



a starving wolf would be politically correct because they would be indiscriminate in who they choose to attack


How different do you think the episode "Rose" would be if Hugh Grant had said yes when RTD asked him to be 9?




it would be the same but worse



jokes on you, I'll never willingly subject myself to charlie pickering milking a joke for 2 minutes



jackie coming onto the doctor would at least make a bit of sense


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Hugh Grant would probably be more evocative of the classic era through voice and presumed style. People tend not to notice that Eccleston's clothes and voice help separate him from previous Doctors because he's lost the pomp and the style that defined 1 to 8.

Still, if Hugh Grant switched with Eccles and kept the same levels of anger it'd be kino. Eccleston fits 9 perfectly though, so it'd be hard to top.


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one question, why, why did he do the chance. in tardis, in clotes and in hair style. Why did they change everything on the second part of season 7 and didnt wait for the regeneration. it is a insult to the Capaldi.



Moff and Matt were both still planning to do S8 together at that time, 11's first TARDIS was very tied to his "family" time with the Ponds and River, and the new TARDIS offered the very exciting opportunity of 360 availability for camera placement.

I'm actually quite the fan of different Doctors keeping the same TARDIS and there just being subtle adjustments (the lighting shift when 10 had the coral TARDIS, the decor and light change when 12 had the 360 TARDIS).



I will say I agree with you in a way that there's odd kind of "aborted" feeling to Matt's big changeup only lasting, well, less than a series' worth of episodes, but I like Doctors shifting around like that, and hey, in-universe the 7B Matt spent much more time existing (at Trenzalore) than the 5-7A Matt did. I'm biased because I greatly preferred the costume and attitude of latter Matt to early Matt too.



long green coat 4 lyfe



>I'm actually quite the fan of different Doctors keeping the same TARDIS and there just being subtle adjustments

Part of the whole fun of a series which is based around its ability to change every single aspect is seeing those aspects change at different times and overlap in different ways. If each Doctor just simply got a new sonic and new TARDIS in their first episode it would be boring. Same goes for companions. The series benefits a lot from Rose making the transfer from 9 to 10 and Clara from 11 to 12. Or Sarah Jane from 3 to 4.

I wonder if we'll ever see a Doctor survive the transition between Showrunners.



Tom Baker had multiple showrunners



The classic series doesn't count.


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Can his reign of terror ever be stopped??


@neo, what could we expect from a cornell showrunner?


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fucking. owls.



Honestly you got a tonne of it in RTD and Moff's runs anyway; his approach to Doctor Who was pretty influential back in the day and definitely bled into, and meshed well with, what RTD and Moff did. Very humanist, character-based, happy-endings-even-where-not-appropriate, strong sense of what makes stories work. He would not have gone as weird or far as Moff went at times, but I don't think he would have gone as pandering as RTD either. He lacked the TV experience to produce the series as well as either of them I'd imagine too. I really do think they should have used him more as a writer though. Parkin deserved a go too imo, even with his lack of TV experience.


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thoughts on shamrock's laser?



>chimes of midnight

>duff pretentious claptrap

what the fuck




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Ah, Lawrence.



That is pretentious as fuck.


So I've been rewatching soviet sci-fi series "Visitor from the future" (aired in 1984) and noticed lots of similiarities with Doctor Who. Would you be interested in watching an episode or two later on sleem? I have it with english subtitles.



If it quacks like a duck…


Give us a quick rundown first?



I thought we were finishing We Can Be Heroes tonight, depending on Neo's availability. No harm in sleeming both though.



tonight is the we can be heroes finale

you can do whatever you want after that tho


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I am as available as the man who said he'd never write Doctor Who was, when someone asked him to write Doctor.






Two schoolboys, Kolya Gerasyimov and Fima Korolev, follow a mysterious strange lady to an abandoned house. When they enter the house, they find no trace of the stranger, but in the empty basement Kolya discovers a secret door that leads to a room with a technical device in it. Curious Kolya starts pressing some buttons and activates the device that "transfers" him to another place.


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why does he make that FUCKING FACE


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>after that

You might think that's a very long time


anyone else naked right now





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for the purpose of comfort or entertainment?


Claudia wrote a novel!


It's complicated

You probably don't want to unspoiler




But Cursed Child was the worst book I've ever read..


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Stories like this?






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me and my friends at supanova


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Capaldi seen on set, filming a cameo for S11. His new outfit looks SHEEP


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im going to fucking murder you


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Which Doctor Who writer does this best describe?


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it best describes you



Lawrence Miles


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Who did this?



Posted to several RecArtsDrWho-affilated mailing lists at the beginning of 2001.


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What are your honest thoughts on the new logo?



I don't like it at all



t. Nilso


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if they wanted something new and attention-grabbing to promote brand synergy or whatnot, they could have at least made it less spindly. the old one was bland as all hell, but it was thick and blocky enough to grab your eye. this one only stands out if it's put up against a really dark background.


Message postings on Doctor Who fan sites like Outpost Gallifrey have been equally brutal. Words like "unimaginative," "dull," "crap" and "atrocious" have been used to describe the latest Who logo.



t. Nilso


Nilso's Razor


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t. Nilsoy


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What is the Doctor Who equivalent of this?


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>Before CE decided to leave, I read in quite a few different places that the original ending involved The Doctor and Rose in the console room.

>The Doctor had absorbed all the time-energy from Rose (as before). He then told her he has taught her all she needs to know, and then opened the TARDIS doors and leaped into the time vortex (I assume because he thought he was going to explode or something).

>And that was going to be the season cliff hanger - Rose alone in the TARDIS and The Doctor flying through the time vortex.

>They changed it to the regeneration scene once CE announced he was going and had to re-shoot. As far as I am aware, the only scene they re-shot was the final scene in the console room, so everything leading up to that was exactly the same.

>That's what I read anyway.



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I thought Chris had decided to leave well before the block where they shot the finale though? I'd always heard the earlier script had Rose absorb the vortex yadda yadda, 9 kisses her and she collapses or whatever and the S2 premiere (no Christmas Invasion planned at this point) would have followed taking her to the New Earth hospital to heal her from the damage.

I have a hard time believing RTD would do Eccleston in the Time Vortex when he specifically shot down hard the idea of showing Jack in the vortex in Utopia.


when boys drink soy, become soy boys

who would’ve thought, on doctor who gen?

on threads like these,

it’s a doctor poo gen!

doctor poo gen!

that nilso drank soy!


Chris is the only Doctor with no (0) bad episodes


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We Can Be Heroes has started


soviet dr who in the stream


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Funniest fucking thing I've read in a long time. I'd pay anything to see that version.


>when he specifically shot down hard the idea of showing Jack in the vortex in Utopia.

what changed his mind?



>fake drunkposting to seem cool

That's Gareth!


Can you imagine decades from now people posting screenshots from /who/ like "I can't believe cats, the writer of the 18th Doctor's best episode, said we should 'kill all cletuses' in 2017"


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Fuck I forgot he actually did it in the end, I think I'm conflating how RTD shot down the idea of having Jack there in the opening credits


Can you imagine decades from now Neo is the showrunner and every interview he gives is really shitposty and based and fans can never tell when he's being ironic?



>RTD shot down the idea of having Jack there in the opening credits

That's so funny because I rewatched the episode recently and for the first time ever had the thought that it would've been funny if it had led straight into the intro with Jack still on the TARDIS. I'd never heard that idea before, had no idea it was actually considered.

Did he shoot it down because it's too corny?



It's definitely in The Writer's Tale but I can't remember his specific reasoning. It annoyed me because I really like tweaking credits in fun meta ways.

Related: originally the new style of credits that premiered in The Snowmen were not to appear until the END of the episode, like there would be no intro credits, then when the episode ended the intro credits would happen then lead into the end credits. This would signify how unDoctory 11 was at the start of the ep (sulking, not being the Doctor) and by how the end he'd become the Doctor again (travelling in the TARDIS feeling renewed with new purpose).



do you have a source on that snowman trivia?



Imagining Jack screaming along to the theme song and yelling "DAVID TENNANT" as the words fly past is so funny to me right now

>This would signify how unDoctory 11 was at the start of the ep (sulking, not being the Doctor) and by how the end he'd become the Doctor again (travelling in the TARDIS feeling renewed with new purpose).

That sounds too contrived to work. I don't think any audience would make that connection without some serious handholding.



I don't think it would have been for handholding, but an artistic decision



Plenty of movies these days save the title card and effective "credit sequence" for the end of the film, before the actual long list credit sequence, I think it's intuitive enough that credits can work as a kind of victory lap.



> At this stage, it was referred to as “The Snowman” – although some consideration was given to providing no on-screen title at all, since it was thought that the title sequence might be held off until the end of the episode, illustrating the Doctor's return to his old self.

Doctor Who Magazine Special Edition #37, Autumn 2014, “The Snowmen” by Andrew Pixley, Panini UK Ltd.


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this is what it says on TARDIS wiki


did capaldi get the most title sequence modifications of any doctor? Did any doctors before him have title sequence modifications for specific episodes (like the snow, baubles, clara eyes, guitar theme, sleep no more's completely unique intro)?



Unless you count the unique logos in Series 7A (absolutely disgusting)


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>513 posts

Everyone having too much fun and forgot to start a new thread?



Maybe. I think an amalgamation of the intro and outro would work better. Rather than play them one after the other, have the credits roll overtop the "intro".



fuck I had forgotten about that

now I wish I could go back to not rememering




What the fuck was up with that? I remember the theory at the time was that it was part of the season's arc but did it end up serving any purpose at all?


This whole "titles at the end" idea would've worked GOAT for Hell Bent



>instead of the Time Vortex the TARDIS whizzes around Gallifrey, banging into the Citadel dome, smashing into Rassilon's ship and blowing it up



maybe it was a Caroline Skinner thing, but the only reason I think that is because she was the biggest factor exclusive to 7A



that's GOAT, but

>not the TARDIS and the diner whizzing around the vortex swerving around one another



maybe the 'every week is a different blockbuster' meme moffat was obsessing with at the time meant he wanted every opening title sequence to be different to relate to the tone of the specific episode


reminder that we didn't see the time vortex in capaldi's era until twice upon a time

his opening titles don't have the time vortex, just an abstract tunnel with gallifreyan hologram circles and random planets and shit - but time heist (or one of those original S8 leaked episodes) starts with a shot of this, and the script referred to it as the time vortex even though the hologram shit was visible in the episode



Actually no I feel like this anon >>19592 is probably correct considering Moffat himself is the one who likes meta fucky titles



>implying Gallifreyan text in the time vortex isn't just rassilon's engineering or some shit



reminder that I don't really like how the new series has established the time vortex as something tangible and often shows the TARDIS piloting through it, and that the abstract opening titles are better



They did it in 1963.



I don't remember that therefore it never happened.



First part of the first episode you goon


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reminder that based william hurt rip grand dad


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Fuck you.


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Damn, that's a good idea.


I just think of the Time Vortex having infinite variations, perhaps it's too incomprehensible for mortal minds hence looking different so often, but the Capaldi S8 title one did strain credibility with the clock shit.





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The clock was just artistic license.


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