You might think that's a hell of a long thread edition
Personally, I think that's a hell of a board: >>23915
I WILL DO EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO GET SALMONELLA
ritualposting is what killed /who/
What's your favourite /who/ meme?
One man's entire life reduced to a meme on an Ivorian book-binding discussion conglomerate? How sad.
> time for a change
There is ONLY one change in the [Jodie Whitaker] show - Chris Chibnall is making no effort to disguise this!!
> the 8 legs
> stop calling me that
[The Jodie Whittaker] Doctor will die from a §pider bite before handing the role over to Maggie §mith - no originality from the BBC.
how the fuck did you find us
it's clearly not him
It's not 451, someone is imitating him. The posts are quite low-effort, but they'll get better given time.
For reference, they need to be bigger, more erratic and scattered, and there typically needs to be edited photos of fake spoilers
I don't know, "OCTO H" seems random enough to have come from 451's imagination as opposed to someone trying to riff on 451's existing posts. I don't think high-effortness has ever actually been a consistent feature of 451's posts considering how half assed the original ones were.
Sounds like something a casual who can’t comprehend Mad Larry’s writings would spout
They've literally just removed the 'D' 'R' W' AND 'O', it's not that creative
It's too low effort - it gets to the stage where it's so low effort that it loops around to high effort. 451's posts were effortless and these ones seem like they've had to go "how can I make this like 451?"
Has anyone watched the How Should Doctor Who End video? It's constantly in my recommended but I'm not gonna watch it cause it'll piss me off.
I retract my earlier statements, I've basically just found proof it's a copy. Filename on >>25176 (1478654593313.jpg) indicates it was saved from the archive here: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/115143663/#115143663 as opposed to 451's actual filename for the image (TT.jpg)
we should stream it
Alright lads I'm about to stick it on in the streamo
add some filler shit for like 10 minutes while people join
america is an inherently conflict-escelated culture due to the ease of access of guns, and this will not change. The guns are already out there, and can't be taken away from the bad people. The only alternative is to give the population reasonable access to weapons that let them fight back.
The second amendment doesn't give the right to bear arms, it PROTECTS it - this distinction is important, because it means that the right to bear arms exists as an absolute rule of existance, independent of the constitution. Any attempt to infringe that inherent right to bear arms (such as australia-style gun laws) would be met with hostile resistance. It worked in australia because they didn't have a "muh guns muh freedoms define muh nation" culture, but it couldn't work in america
I'm going to the toilet, add filler please, till I come back.
cats having a tantrum in the stream
Who is the most anti-fun trip
>Jack Graham literally uses the phrase "the stakes have never been higher" verbatim in his latest post
So, Kinda, seeing as this general is where we met, I thought it'd be the best place for me to, well, to…
It's not often that I'm lost for words. You know that more that anyone else. I guess it's just you. Thinking about you, my mind gets lost in the rosy haze of love. I think about all the things we've done together, and all the things we've yet to do. Remember that time we went stargazing, so many summer nights ago? Lying in the daises, for the first time ever, you told me you loved me. Then, as the sun rose from beneath the windswept vallies, we kissed. If I could relive that day a million times over, I would. And I can, if I spend my life with you…
Kindanonymous, will you marry me?
Haha, this is why I married you.
Damn it feels good to say that
Well, I better not count my chickens before they hatch. There's a wedding to plan! It's gonna be faaaabulous!
I'm so happy for you! Me and Neo are eating dinner right now - great vegan food on this cruise - and we just toasted the happy couple.
this most recent roleplaying goes against the spirit of glittergun desu
I declare it not canon
It's great to see a gay "man" settle down and get married, I know that's rare for their kind.
Who said anything about "settling down"? Married me will be as promiscuous as ever ;)
Is this an ARG? That looks like binary.
not gonna lie I can't be fucked decoding it desu
There lived a certain man in /who/ long ago
He was big and strong, in his eyes a flaming glow
Most people looked at him with terror and with fear
But to wiki chicks he was such a lovely dear
He could preach the bible like a preacher
Full of ecstasy and fire
But he also was the kind of teacher
Women would desire
t. t. Nilso
Lover of the trip Neo
There was a cat that really was gone
t. t. Nilso
/who/s greatest love machine
It was a shame how he carried on
I never wanted to become someone like him
Content to live each day just like the last
I was sure I knew that
This was not for me
And I wanted so much more
Far beyond what I could see
So I swore that I'd
Never be someone like nilso
Rasputin is a comfy song, I approve
Does /who/ like the Zygon 2-parter?
I haven't seen it since it first aired
I liked it at the time but I know opinions have become more mixed
sandifer tweeting about how much pussy he got
Neo when you're reading these threads back you can skip the post below me okay?
Aw. Nilso is a Problematic Person now, I see. Go to hell you pompous arse. *BLOCKS*
Hey Neo, when you're reading these threads back, you can skip this post here. Yeah, this one right here.
Neo you can skip the next thread.
Capaldi is GOAT, Zygon Clara is hot, what isn't there to like?
Why is that bad? Is it a meme?
this, more villainous jenna pls
Which Doctor had the best post-regeneration scene and why is it Thirteen?
It's actually Four
did talalay direct the jodie part?
Just cancel Doctor Who already. It's time for the Sarah Jane Adventers remake.
Two's seems kino—just pure confusion. Lost forever, of course.
I'm still here, anon.
>accidentally ordered the same books twice again
They're going to get fed up with my emails soon.
And then we got back to the threesome we were having.
Are these threads just /who/ false-flagging
The woman Doctor idea is fine. I'm just glad they got rid of Moffat. He ruined the fun of Doctor Who, and it felt like he was constantly rewriting Doctor Who history to make his OC characters more important. River was a travesty.
The wheelchair Doctor idea is fine. I'm just glad they got rid of Chibnall. He ruined the fun of Doctor Who, and it felt like he was constantly rewriting Doctor Who history to make the Silurians more important. The Sea Devils 2 was a travesty.
The solo Doctor TARDIS-team idea is fine, I'm just glad they got rid of Nilso. He ruined the fun of Doctor Who, and it felt like he was constantly rewriting Doctor Who history to include Doctors from an alternate universe working together to avoid a universe-spanning entity comprised of billions of copies of Doctors forcefully assimilated into one individual trying to unite itself across reality. It also felt like he was trying to make the alien companions more important. The "Shatterpoint" arc was a travesty.
You know, I usually /pol/ out and complain about women ruining everything, but I can see 13 being a lot of fun.
What's with this?
13 will canonically be a futa
>World Enough and Time
The intro to this ep is a really good example of everything wrong with Moffat era Who actually. Doctor screaming NOOOOOOOO, then cut to stupid fake looking CG shots of a spaceship, then 'oh my god look it's a black hole', then 10 minutes of Missy/Companion snark.
Compare with that other black hole ep in the RTD era (Impossible Planet) where they actually take some time to make the supporting cast likable and believable characters, some worldbuilding, build up some suspense as to what's going on (I don't think you even see the black hole until like 15 minutes in) whereas Moffat's eps are just about fitting as much 'clever' timey wimey shit/quippery in as possible.
(you), but TIP/TSP is pure comfy
>Series 2 - Garbage
This is such a fucking meme. School Reunion, The Girl in the Fireplace, The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit… the only real 'garbage' eps were New Earth and Fear Her. The Cybus 2 parter had problems but is still to this day the only time the conceptual horror of the cybermen has been expressed in nu-who
AW IT'S A SANCTUARY BASE!
>The Cybus 2 parter had problems but is still to this day the only time the conceptual horror of the cybermen has been expressed in nu-who
WEAT did it better by focusing on the medical element and slow transformation. Series 2 Cybermen honestly focused too much on the ridiculous "lol we cut your brain out with big CGI saws".
TAKE BRAIN OUT
PUT IN ROBOT BODY
I just had the weirdest fucking dream
>Immigrant (of all people) tried to push me out of /who/
>wrote a fucking massive wall of text exposing me as a person and making me sound bad
>he's the only person who potentially knows my name due to google docs
>used my /who/ name and then my real name
>it was basically "you should leave /who/; your posts are so easy to spot and it brings the conversation down; the only things you ever post are X, Y and Z," etc.
>I started writing a strongly worded reply back about how that was hypocritical of him because Hunter
>woke up in the middle of it
Immigrant, you're a lovely guy, but dream you is a dick
This. When did Doctor Who stop being fun?
Explain the hunter part of this post
>mfw I still haven't gotten my physical contributor copy of "Book of the Enemy"
Hunter coming to 8ch with Immigrant's supervision, Hunter becoming a trip with Immigrant's help
I'd like to state I really like Immigrant and I don't dislike Hunter, but that this was my angry/flustered response
>implying the Book of the Enemy physically exists
n8's story was really confusing. It's my favorite in TBotE.
YOU ARE MY GOLIATH
YOU ARE MY GOLIATH
AND I AM MISTRESS DREAD
>The hacker group Anonymous wear Faction Paradox masks.
You could have written "the hacker known as 4chan".
in which hoodie breaks any illusion of him not being an incel
>Some incels have every right to be bitter.
He can't even conceive of a negative type of masculinity that isn't bad boy Chad, despite one staring back at him straight out of the mirror. hmm
hey guys im in the stream if anyone wants to watch weat/tdf/tuat.. just had a craving to see it
we watch those every couple of weeks
i cum in yer mum every few weeks but that doesnae stop me from coming for seconds
absolutely BASED scottish post
and? Every time we put on classic who people start to trickle out. So we're stuck playing the same few series of new who over and over and over again
>dream you is a dick
I find it hilarious that you caught a glimpse of an alternate universe where I'm a jerk, and probably have a goatee.
I wouldn't do that to you in this verse, though.
Hey Immigrant, smell this milk.
I haven't read Book Of The Enemy yet.
i fell over and hit my head now I don't feel good
Can you smell this milk for me?
If I was an imitiation, a perfect imitation, how would you know it was really me?
It's funny how every non-/who/ thread turns into an RTD circlejerk.
There's someone in this camp who isn't who he says he is. Right now it may be one or two of us, but by spring it could be all of us.
what did he mean by this
/who/ stridently polices itself against nostalgia wank and dumb casual/normie whining, so it was the only bastion of good Who taste on 4chan. As much as I expect the Chibnall era to be mediocre, I hope we can keep up the same standard and not have people disparaging it for dumb nostalgia reasons.
It's time we find out who's who. It's time we find The Thing.
Who sabotaged the blood?
It's funny. It's like /who/ basically was born in the Moffat era, and it's been a struggle keeping it alive past the Moffat era
I'd like to get back into the habit of doing /who/ngergames or /doctorwho/ngergames again
holy shit you people did that like ten fucking times a week. please limit yourselves to like once a month this time.
That would be nice. Those were fun.
Twice a month would be a good compromise.
Jesus, don't shit yourself
Aren't you one of us, anon?
>one of us
okay maybe I sounded like a dick but I know I'm not the only one who found the frequency of the whonger games to be obnoxious and annoying
They happened quite rarely. If anything's obnoxious, it's your spotty memory
They happened about once a month. That's even less than Immigrant suggested.
Another anon here. Maybe I didn't visit /who/ that much but I remember them happening a lot more than just once a month. It kinda bothered me too but I dont like ruining other people's parades. it would like dominate whole threads
All the dates of them are on the wiki page.
It's already been stated in thread that it happened about once a month. Get over it.
I was only saying. You don't need to be so defensive about it. I'll go lynch myself, excuuuuse me
>implying there weren't games that didn't get recorded on the wiki because they were trainwrecks
The only times they happened more than once a month was during times of excessive traffic, when threads were relatively fast paced.
So my memory isn't wrong? Im not even openly opposing it, i just dont like being told that im losing my head
Reminder that we were mid-game when we were told not to make them anymore and we'll never know who would've won.
The only ones that didn't get recorded were the several times when that one anon asked for tributes but never actually followed up and gave a bullshit excuse.
I finished the game and recorded it on the wiki as the current last game, babby Chibnall won
Either way there's nothing stopping us from using a separate thread for the /who/nger games.
True, but I feel it's funner in the main thread. Whatever /who/ decides, tho.
Also, Lym, how are you?
They'll still find a way to cry about it.
I agree, the other threads get less traffic so less people will actually check to visit it. Luckily there's no 30-second wait between posts and we can use up to three images for a single post here so it'll be much less cluttered.
Also I'm good, just been busy mostly.
Actually, I wouldn't. Only thing that bothered me was how it flooded the main thread where I'd rather see discussion instead of just a bunch of photos of mostly-unfunny competitor ideas arbitrarily killing one another. If it didn't trample on the main thread then I'd have nothing to cry about
Take the stick out of your ass once in a while.
WAAAAAAH WE MUST HAVE INTELLECTUAL DISCUSSION 100% OF THE TIME
fresh inspired memes
can somebody please explain what "consomme man" actually means
Get the fuck out you TARDISposting fool.
Christ, we did them almost every day at the start.
Greetings, it has come to my attention there has been troll attacks on your board, in order for content monetering, you must delete those users contributions. If you do not do this however, your board will be reported.
Yeah, those were wild times. I was there at the first one, when the Bald Master won.
But Chief Caretaker won the first one
Damnit. I was there for that though. I distinctly remember Bald Master, for some reason. Was he a competitor in the first one?
Yeah it was a user with a trip called Cats. If you could ban him that'd be neat.
i bet plog is the one who hates the /who/nger games too
ok someone asked for the webm
>tfw will never smack that bottom
>ywn be sat on by that bottom
What's the deal with machinitransmofology anyway?
Aww, thank you so much anon! There were some really great stories in there, so that's really flattering :)
If you want to be unconfused, check out http://factionparadox.wikia.com/wiki/Cobweb_and_Ivory_(short_story) where I explained all the connections I could remember.
N8, there's still time for a Shit Trips story…maybe a one page Faction tale….
(I understand if you're too busy, tho.)
The first week or so of the games was kino, I will always remember when Mark Cuban won the whole fucking thing with his eyes closed
Yep. He kept on running into bushes!
Also, wasn't the first one filled with rape, because of a setting or event we added?
What are some Doctor Who episodes that Kinda likes?
Hey Neo your Labo just arrived
what is the doctor who equivalent of pic related?
EVISCERATED GARETHS INCOMING
It's okay Nilso, someone here loves you.
>Mhmm… yummy water for my tummy tum.
what is the doctor who equivalent of pic related?
What episode was this?
The Unicorn and the Wasp
That explains why it looked unfamiliar to me. I skipped all the episodes written by gar*th
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
hear the sacred words
Is this the new "I'm an atheist so I don't watch Christmas specials"?
This isn't even a fun essay. I feel like Sandifer's lost a friend, and I'm feeling a bit sad about that. Sucks.
>But no. I said in September that I don’t have to die on every single political hill in Doctor Who. And I really don’t. But I don’t have to redeem every single failure either. Gareth Roberts unrepentantly spewed toxic and malicious lies about women like me. And he keeps doing it. He’s not sorry. He’s not even willing to be laughed at for his ignorance and foolishness, which are really the only way to describe calling trans women confused gay men. He’s cruel and he’s cowardly. And that’s all true before you factor in my sense of betrayal or the timing of his tweets with regard to my life. That doesn’t get to have a redemptive reading. Honestly, I kind of wish it didn’t get to have any reading at all. I wish I didn’t have to deal with it. I wish I hadn’t had to write this. So if there’s something I’m to say before he departs our tale, it would simply be this: go fuck yourself, Gareth.
She did give Gareth a fair sendoff before all that in the article, though.
Is there any chance for Sandifer and Gareth to annihilate each other in a big matter/anti-matter explosion?
someone with an account reply with "t. nilso"
>And, of course, there’s the running gag of the Doctor refusing to believe that a black man could be anything other than a P.E. teacher, a joke whose ugliness is in no way completely eliminated by the nominal reason being Danny’s military service.
I forgot the bit where the Doctor called Danny a PE teacher because he was black
12 doesn't due it because Danny was black, but it still reads kind of weird nevertheless.
our resident Last Jedi hater is out for the week
it was slightly better than Infinity War, though
you dont need an account, all you have to do is put in a fake email
for example, firstname.lastname@example.org works quite well :^)
now i sort of regret posting that link
You really shouldn't.
Let's avoid that sort of silliness this time. It's a heartfelt article, after all.
That's a bit of a stretch.
I've not even read it yet. I might do it after breakfast.
No shit, you need some kind of special wiring in your brain to actually take that out of the episode.
I don't want Sandifer to have my IP
It's really not that advanced. Most people can make simple connections like this. It's basic text analysis, it's not about whether it was intentional or not. The "special wiring in your brain" you need to do it is just called a brain, actually.
You're the ones making a big deal out of it though. Sandifer says herself that 'those critiques, though not inaccurate, are ultimately misleading' and then moves on completely. They're not a focal point of the essay
if it has no bearing on the rest of the text why bring it up the first place
to acknowledge that Sandifer could do an ebin political takedown of the episode but chooses not to do so
>Failures of Infinity War
>The Last Jedi is a masterpiece
Because that sort of cluelessness ties into the fact that Gareth's writing carries the sins of a naive middle-class person. (Although I think it reads differently as an American rather than as an Englishman.)
are black people more likely to be PE teachers? ive literally never even thought of this and didnt cross my mind during the episode.
I'll admit the doctor seeming taken aback that he taught math seemed a bit on the nose, however
Did I say it was advanced? I was saying it was fucking odd.
Every PE teacher I ever had during education was white.
It's not about stereotyping black men as pe teachers. It's about the Doctor refusing to believe Danny could teach something intellectual because he's a soldier
same here, but im Australian so it's not really the same as a britbong or seppo
Then why did the quote specifically say "black man"?
I mean, I'm a lesbian, so yeah, apparently pretty fucking clueless.
Exactly. But saying that the black man can't teach math because he's too dumb also seems a bit weird, to American eyes.
But it was literally a side comment from El. For her, it's more the rotten cherry on top of other issues.
>it was literally a side comment from El
Why does that exempt it from objection
but that's not what 12 is talking about at all
can someone give me a quick rundown on this drama? i haven't been following.
for what it's worth, in my eyes it seemed like he meant it because Danny was a jock looking type, that along with how he did the drills with the students at the beginning of the episode made an alright argument for him teaching PE.
sandyfern thinks 12 is calling danny a stupid negro
nah i mean the stuff about her and gareth hating eachother or something.
oh I don't care about that
Every teacher I've ever had were white
All the black people here are too busy sniffing petrol
Gareth tweets edgy right-wing content, Sandifer tweets about Gazza referring to him as a 'problematic person', gets BLOCKED by Clayton; Sandifer becomes a trans lesbian as a reaction to Trump, later on Sandifer tweets about what jokes about Gareth will be in The Caretaker essay, gets BLOCKED by Gareth.
meant to reply to >>25439
I've had one black teacher (that I can think of) and he was gay and taught drama & dance, unironically
interesting, thanks for the rundown
in other related news, apparently im blocked by sandifer, dunno what blocklist im on for that to happen
How are the wedding plans going?
>im blocked by sandifer
Danny as a closeted gay man would have been more interesting, honestly.
Yeah, I think a block may be in order here.
Because it's related to the episode and to Gareth, which is what the essay is about.
The racist stereotype of black men is that they excel in physical/violent activity but have an inferior intelligence. It's also common for people to be convinced that a black man is in the wrong place and refuse to believe otherwise (arrested walking down their own street, driving their own car, etc.) so it's not a huge stretch to say that a white man refusing to believe a black man could be a maths teacher can carry certain connotations.
The Doctor isn't real, nerd. Analysis is more about the real world and goes deeper than what a character "meant".
One question: what's the point in blocking someone from viewing your tweets? Can't they literally just log out and see them anyway?
>Danny as a closeted gay man
Gareth would have refused to write that
>a repositioning of the Doctor's relationship from "boyfriend" to "Dad" (although 12 thinking that Clara's choosing an 11 lookalike confuses it a bit).
How does that confuse it? If the Doctor was a boyfriend figure surely he wouldn't be all happy and smug that Clara was dating someone who was basically a clone of his younger self? Whereas if he was a dad that's exactly how he'd act?
It means they can no longer reply to you (unless they make a new account, but the same goes for any website)
I've never had a black teacher.
yeah if someone blocked me i just open their profile in incognito
what if El Savador searches 'nilsoposting' and immediately finds /who/
utter cringe, holy fuck
cats is dead
It ain't my fault if someone says my stream name on a website somewhere and it leads to sandyfer finding us
Gareth's writing of the pair doesn't feel right in The Caretaker, I completely agree. He's a competent enough guy to understand the relationship, but I think instead he chose to write the sort of relationship he'd rather watch in this situation.
It reminds me of Munro's 12 in that episode that was so bland I can't even remember the name of. She clearly decided to watch a few episodes of s8 to get herself used to the character, and suddenly we were watching s8 12 again. He was such a different character by that series that in that episode it just felt like he'd just been in a pissy mood that day
>Whereas if he was a dad that's exactly how he'd act?
Good point. It's a bit confusing, only because it it hearkens back to the "11/Clara" romance arc.
Cats is just looking for a new trans SJW partner now that Culler left him.
I had one black teacher. He was Madagascan and taught PE for the younger grades and French for the middle schoolers
>sandyfer finding us
Okay, this is epic.
So what's the lesson from reading "PE" as racist? The whole gag should just be deleted from all Series 8? Isn't that… really fucking lame?
I'm fairly sure he knows we exist already.
The way i saw it, initially the doctor was simply acknowledging she has moved on from him and was proud of her for it.
as for the bow tie guy bit, i took it sort of like the doctor EXPECTED her to have moved on completely and be his equal, and seeing that (in his eyes) the bow tie guy was her partner made him slightly less proud of her, but still flattered none the less that she still has feelings for him
i.e it's like "oh you havent COMPLETELY moved on, but you've atleast made a start"
Really? I thought he was pretty blatantly pleased as punch, keeping in with the occasional vanity Moffat's Doctor shows.
I think outwardly he was pleased because he DOES like having her fawn over him in a sort of selfish way, but on the inside he understand that ultimately it would be better for both of them if she completely moved on
this being said i havent watched the episode in a while so i may be misremembering some things
>That doesn’t get to have a redemptive reading. Honestly, I kind of wish it didn’t get to have any reading at all. I wish I didn’t have to deal with it. I wish I hadn’t had to write this. So if there’s something I’m to say before he departs our tale, it would simply be this: FUCK OFFERINO, Gareth.
seriously though, why did sandifer think this was going to make some huge dramatic splash? it isn't even that harsh on gareth and i can't imagine gareth having many diehard fans who are gagging to defend his shitty politics, not enough for them to actually make a difference anyway
>seriously though, why did sandifer think this was going to make some huge dramatic splash? it isn't even that harsh on gareth
This, I was underwhelmed
Because Sandifer is a fucking mess
Because you share his hate of transgender people. You are a disgrace to the LGBT community.
I'll never get over how Gareth thought fucking "Bev" was a standard name
I hope you're not unironically ashamed of this opinion
W E W
I'm amused, but you shouldn't use Neo's name. He isn't here to object and he's a fan of Sandifer's work.
what have i done
Delete this post, you're only encouraging it.
DUDE WIFE'S SON LMAO
i just can't stop thinking about cuckoldry
lol, delete YOUR post!
There's always a chance the person who posted it can be appealed to ethics, there's no way it'll be deleted if I just stay silent. I'm amused by most of the posts anyway, it's just this post that I find sketchy.
opinions on che guevara
this isn't even clever. stupid post
You can't delete your replies on the Eruditorum.
Oh okay. I stand by my post anyway, the damage was done with the first comment.
Stop feeling guilty, Sandifer is very widely known in /who/
kindas gay but also secretly trans
I see /who/ had an underage moment while I was asleep.
Performing masculinity is untenable under Cloimod.
/who/ is permanently going through an underage moment.
Nilsoposting is no longer funny. Stick to trip OCs please.
>He literally has the longest span between first and last essays in the project, even if his actual Doctor Who career only spanned from the Wilderness Years to the dawn of the Capaldi era. And anyway, that’s still twenty-one years, longer than either Robert Holmes or Terry Nation. Of course he gets a summing up.
How is 1990-2013 twenty one more years than between 1963-1977?
I remember /who/ coming up in the comments to the Mummy on the Orient Express post on Eruditorum.
I wish we could combine the two, but I don't know of any OCs to ship with Nilso.
longest span between Eruditorum essays
beginning with The Plotters in the Hartnell block
You're lucky we don't pretend things you joke about are things you're pathologically obsessed with cats
>How is 1990-2013 twenty one more years than between 1963-1977?
Er, did you read it right? it doesn't say "twenty-one years longer", it's "twenty-one years, longer…". It's just a longer time period.
Streaky Streaky, streaky, streaky Streaky Streaky, streaky, streaky, yeah
Which general is he describing and where can it be found?
hopefully that's the tamest one
>it's a Sandifer writes an Eruditorum entry that's a thinly veiled diatribe against someone who spurned him article
Also, I would be very surprised if he never googled himself (or herself, or whatever) and found the /who/ wiki, which is in the first page of results.
Not only is it not "thinly veiled", it literally discusses the entire concept of attacking someone in an essay versus enjoying their work on its own merits. I mean did you even read it?
You need to learn more wiki lore, Sandifer is one of the few people who found our page about them and forced it to be ERASED.
What are some Doctor Who episodes about fucking up your entire body because of who's in the White House?
reminder that cats called this artist based
whoever wrote this imitated sandifer's style well. I don't know if they were trying to trick us but "much-hyped Kill the Moon" made it obvious theyre from here
Enough of this meme. in the exact same twitter thread people cite to claim "lol sandifer only transitioned cos of trump", literally the next tweet along, Sandifer goes on to link an old post from 2011 as evidence of a repressed desire to transition.
>tfw estradiol gives you better orgasms
you're all missing out
Anyone know if/when the Tom Baker season 12 bluray collection will be released in Australia?
reminder that cats called this artist based.
oh fuck. imagine being part-way through completing your DVD/bluray collection when suddenly they do this
they all have reversible covers for the old design
based. BF is doing that too. it's funny how doing the new logos is making them spend more money on packaging
That's Briggs Finish, we literally don't know anything else about this new set other than its front cover.
The missing episodes found in 2013 had new cover designs but they were reversible to be of the old type.
>"but my starting point was, frankly, that performing masculinity under Trump was untenable."
Sandifer literally could not have made this any clearer—using the words "starting point" and everything.
>evidence of a repressed desire to transition.
The old essay was to show a distaste for "performing masculinity".
"omfg transition already you ridiculous egg" wasn't where Sandifer's head was at at the time, that's a comment made in retrospect. Sandifer then goes on to say
>But my ability to [perform masculinity] anyway broke (because of Trump). And I recognized that being a woman was a solution to that.
That's pretty unambiguously an account of deciding to transition as a response to Trump.
Was it a marketing move from Chibnall to impose the new logo on everything?
I'm not sure but I hope it was so my already-decided opinions can be validated.
You mean like this?
This is still a single-story release, I don't think there's any such guarantee that they aren't retiring the old packaging altogether when it comes to these box sets.
I don't even think these new boxsets are actually related to the old releases.
Would it have been better if Chibnall got off his fat arse and made a Christmas special for 2017 instead of Moffat making TUAT? I feel like WEAT and TDF is a much stronger end for Capaldi's Doctor than TUAT.
that's not really how the process works. for a lot of trans people they have a moment that first puts them onto the line of thinking, and then they spend a lot of time thinking about it and the more they do the more it makes sense, and it starts retroactively explaining all sorts of things throughout your life. sandifer's moment was trump
That's by no means a universal experience.
Probably, but that would be asking a lot. He'd have to make the first outing of a new Doctor be a random ep, and then risk it being a bad impression that stayed for months. A Twin Dilemma, you could call it.
No, starting off with a Christmas special 9 months before the actual series would be a terrible marketing decision.
it's an extremely common one
The one on the left looks so much better than the one on the right
Is anybody here an ebay nerd?
I received an item that doesn't work and messaged the sender. Now they are asking me for a video of the item not working so they can help fix it (it can't be fixed). Do I have to do that? Can I just go over their head and get a refund? I've had the account for years and never had to do something like this before, so I probably have a good track record.
>"omfg transition already you ridiculous egg" wasn't where Sandifer's head was at at the time, that's a comment made in retrospect
Yes, a comment made in retrospect by the person who actually wrote the damn thing. As in, read in hindsight, the author understood a subtext to their own previous thoughts that they weren't conscious of at the time of writing. (I relate to this a lot as a gay person who had the fun experience of revisiting my entire childhood and having it suddenly make a lot more sense than it did at the time.)
Sandifer is presenting Trump and associated circumstances as the tipping point that made self-realisation vital, not as a sudden bolt out of the blue before which no sense of transness was ever present.
Most transgender healthcare resources will tell you that orgasms post-HRT become less intense. On the other hand, if you look at any thread on the subject on any message board, you'll pretty much always get a 50/50 split on peoples' experiences.
It would have been better if they had gotten someone else to make it so Moffat and Chibnall could start/end their era without a shitty christmas episode
I really don't think the process of commissioning a new episode is that simple.
Dunno. Jodie's first episode, given that the stakes have literally never been higher for the show, could probably stand to have a lot of time in the oven rather than be rushed out for Christmas.
I understand what you're saying, but Sandifer's decision to transition was sparked by Trump. That's all I'm saying, that's all you're disputing, and that's exactly what Sandifer said in his own words.
If you used it through paypal tell them otherwise just dispute it on ebay i would imagine
>Most transgender healthcare resources will tell you that orgasms post-HRT become less intense
no they don't.
that's a misleading way to describe it. they become less "intense" in the sense that you experience a long sensation instead of a short one. they're certainly not worse
If I have a six-month long craving for apples and I only act on it after seeing an advertisement for apples, is it an unreasonable statement to say I ate the apples because I saw an advertisement?
if that's all you're saying then who fucking cares?
And for my next trick, I, a random person who has had no experience in television or marketing, am going to tell a person who has showran television shows before how their job should be done.
It would be better if they just stopped making Christmas episodes, since they only serve to complicate transitions between eras.
People who are bemused by that take on gender and that extreme response to an election.
Heterosexuality is untenable under Kindaglitter and Neolso
TAKE THAT, STRAIGHTIES
Why did put so many ideas into Twice Upon a Time that required CGI when they clearly didn't have the budget for it?
It amuses me greatly to see certain trips and streamfags seethe when someone brings up the existence of LGBT people, real or fictional.
Forgot your trip cats
In retrospect, it's a fucking miracle we got the Target novelisations with the old logo on them.
I guess quality of orgasms is too subjective to argue, but several sources specifically cite 'less peak intensity', not to mention countless accounts of people who are just totally unable to experience female orgasm on HRT over a long timeframe.
or any orgasm whatsoever in many cases, I might add.
I'll accept Chibnall dropping Christmas episodes if he adds all the excess runtime back onto the series and we get 55+ minute episodes S12 onwards
You wish Cats was the only person who thinks you're a bigot.
>'less peak intensity'
yeah that's what i just said. you get a long orgasm rather than a short 'intense' one. your orgasms become more similar to cis female orgasms
>not to mention countless accounts of people who are just totally unable to experience female orgasm on HRT over a long timeframe.
feel like youre getting confused and just thinking about how achieving erections becomes difficult
Top 5 Forgotten Doctor Who Episodes (11:42)
>feel like youre getting confused
I'm serious, look up "estrogen hrt orgasm" and look for message board results, before too long you'll see stories about people on HRT who become dysphoric in response to any kind of sex because their orgasms don't align with whatever gender they're trying to match and the like.
say your name, pussy
>trying to find consistently-defined info on trans shit
laughed my cock off
Will Plogicol overcome his homophobia and visit Kindaglitter's wedding? At Kinda's personal request, Nilso will be performing in drag.
Any recent good Sammi Carter videos?
And by good I mean "lots of mispronunciation"
Can't wait for his The Division lets plays
Surely it's time for everyone to come together…
When is Neowl going to do that livestream of Sonic Mania Plus
>someone else discovered Neowl's Youtube
That's not what they meant *facepalms*
Actually I just remembered when he said he'd do it on the d*scord a while back, you do you though.
>he just found a dog in a cage, shot the cage (possibly in an attempt to free it?) and fucking murdered the dog???
I have never read an eruditorum press article before
what am I in for?
This is now a Sammi Carter general
not much. this one is pretty straightforward
Who's your favourite character from Extremis? Mine is The Ponp.
Honestly, I'd say to read the Curse of Fenric post, or a post about your fave ep, before reading this one.
The CERN guy. What a lad. I love when a fairly thin guest character becomes memorable purely because of the actor, it's a rare as fuck occurrence.
does he shit on stories for the sake of it
Also, underrated kino shot there.
>2000 word blogpost before the actual review starts
I give up, not even going to bother desu
That was in the simulation, he never existed. It doesn't count.
that scene in general is great. looking forward to my S10 rewatch
You don't have to be real to be a character.
Who's your favourite character from Extremis? Mine is A Dongol Trunk.
Don't tell me what to do faggot
My Sammi lore isn't great, who is the woman sitting beside him?
Also he keeps getting killed lel
She doesn't. She analyzes them deeply.
His sister probably
are you allowed to pick your own?
Briggsposting is always fun. I don't know who makes all the Briggs pics, but thank you.
fucking 8chan posting layout I swear to god
This actor will play the Fifteenth Doctor. Screencap this.
do we go back to 4chan when the new season starts?
when will it start anyways?
Late 2018, no clear date.
I'm just waiting for some writers' names so I can set my expectations.
…that's enough to set them pretty low, yeah.
We know it's October, we don't know what day though.
Churchill was actually in two terrible episodes not one
Even more than that, actually, but they're so easy to forget.
The Who annual is out on the 4th of October. So probably before then
rhymes with pee poo haha
new RTD gay drama trailer, get hype
RTD hasn't done a based-on-true-events historical drama like this before has he? Pretty interesting.
>RTD still writes for TV
what the fuck?
I might even watch it
I do hope they speak in polari. That would be amazing. Will watch.
Cloister why do you seem to know so much about gay lore and culture?
I've had many gay friends. Being a weird quiet kid I tended to gravitate to other weird kids. Spent alot of time building sets in drama club. I was lucky enough to have a few of those friendships last into my twenties.
Anyone like David Gray? Join me in the stream
/who/ needs an official flag. We should do a design competition.
>yfw Gareth lies dying and Sandifer approaches and merges with him in a beam of light
>Jack Graham say "She was Roberts all the time"
I feel obligated to go through all doctor who but I don't actually like most of it so I go at 1.5 or even 2x speed
and I say that as a fan!
Back once again it's the renegade master
Anyone else like Cristel more since her involvement in Time Team? It's mostly because she's the only good one, unless you're counting Dudman - and even he isn't a ClassicChad
Surely our posterboy Doc should be Capaldi? (Maybe Pert)
>FiveWhoFans' Renegade Master
Oh Jesus…how is this worse upon second listening?
I'm not a fan of Making the flag a doctor's outfit
Nothing about it represents /who/ specifically, just doctor who generically
goodbye for another week
Wilf in Briggs Finish when?
From the worlds of BBC Doctor Who
Wilfred Mott and Sylvia Noble in
The Noble Chronicles
Face like a smacked bottom, bottom that you'd like to smack.
John Simm master adventures in Briggs Finish when?
What is the doctor who equivalent of an ARG website promoting arrested development season 5?
It's odd how much better internet promotion for Doctor Who was (relative to the internet's importance) in 2005-2007 compared to 2015-2017.
Back when Doctor Who was fun
>Incels are a product of toxic masculinity? Pretty sure it's the toxically masculine men who are getting the most sex, including from feminists who claim to hate it. Some incels have every right to feel bitter.
You can tell he's one of them because he thinks sex is something you should "get" rather than coming from a happy relationship.
for what it's worth, that's the mentality of most people who use hookup apps and not something unique to incels
gadda get dat boom boom pow
That was actually someone else. Sandi has a lot of nerd friends who probably would have reported the page for accusing her of murder, and the new version of the page has never been reported for anything, so I think that's the key.
A bit small and flat for a black woman, but still, I wish I was a girl so she would sit that wide ass right on my face and fucking kill me.
After this I feel as though the ecclescakes meme hasn't been fully explored.
Had a dream about Nilso. He patted my shoulder and told me everything was going to be alright. I don't know what he was referring to but I feel comforted all the same.
>I heard on the news that having a baby by Caesarian Section has become a "lifestyle choice." If this is true then I've been fucked by the Iron Giant and the midwives are firing up the chainsaws…
for best Jimbo quote
I can't even begin to parse what he meant by this.
Is there a bigger cunt than this guy?
Am I missing some context but did he say "Wolves of Winter" as some sort of GoT-inspired idiom? Because that's the most neckbeard fucking thing I can imagine
Haha no, that was the guy he was replying to.
anyone got his review of Goss's Pirate Planet novelization?
>edited to make the FUUUUUUUCK bigger
I never understood /tv/'s hate boner for The Last Jedi.
Well-meaning psychopath, like most commies. Social democracy is still the best political ideology.
don't do that
I don't care about knowing who made what post, and quite frankly you're just setting yourself up for being shat on since you're a prolific discord user. Nothing good will come of using your name here. It can all be prevented by posting anonymously like everyone else.
This is 8chan we use big boy spaces now
Gun to my head I couldn't explain the meme to you.
It appears to be a reference to a specific user on the 4chan board that spawned the wiki.
This user's name has become slang for penis because of course it has.
Why am I doing this?
battle of the not-tardis wikis
>think "oh no what if liz finds her page on the wiki"
>search the wiki for sandifier
the fuck happened?
and here I've been saying "sandifier" this whole time
is this a blank page for anyone else?
it hasn't launched yet
wew, didn't know that was still attached
anyway, wild doings
For shame, this is no way for a married woman to act on twitter.
it could be a "matrimony with peripheral benefits" sort of arrangement, i don't know
>Und wenn du lange in einen Nilso blickst, blickt der Nilso auch in dich hinein.
amazing how this manages to get just about everything completely wrong
he's right that nilso=willy though
>they are well-liked but only ironically
kek, poor nilso
tweet this to sandy
Hey there's a Sandifer thread on /lit/ right now
does /lit/ know about sandifer?
I've seen some real shit in the past five minutes
You know, his reaction might be exaggerated but his complaint isn't insane. Trying to make your prose sound better by using the long-winded and abstract "evoking the kind of insect you'd not care to find in your bed" instead of the concrete and precise "like a bug in your bed" is sloppy, ineffectual writing and any editor woth his salt would heve fixed it. I don't remember Jimbo making slips like this in his books.
Funny enough, your reaction proves that you, like him, are insane.
it was a review of City of Death, not The Pirate Planet; no wonder why I couldn't find it in the archive.
one more for "times ranting Jimbo was honestly right"
>Paul Magrs liking his own status
I'm about as insane as any halfway decent writing manual.
If I die tomorrow
I'd be all right
Because I believe
That after we're gone
The nilsoposting carries on
Yeah I've been a regular here for years and I couldn't tell anybody what "t. nilso" means, either. I always knew it was a forced meme that came from the stream but I only recently realised Nilso is an actual person that posts here
With this revelation you are one step further to attaining true enlightenment
The Nilso be Praised!
"t." is a way of signing off at the end of a letter, it comes from some european country that I forget. "t. anon" is their equivalent of "sincerely, anon", essentially. On 4chan it's a meme, I imagine it started on /int/. It's used both to sign off your own post by saying something that you are (eg "t. ausfag") or accuse someone else of being something by replying to their post with it (eg. "t. butthurt")
nilso is a streamfriend. He's just a regular guy but the name "nilso" sounds funny and became a meme.
t. nilso became a thing but his name is also used in many other meme/shitpost contexts, purely because it's a word that sounds funny. there's no greater depth to it
How the fuck did you not know he was a real person?
Because it was just shitty spam for a long time. I guess I knew it was a real person, but I didn't know they actually posted in threads. I thought it was someone solely from the stream or one of the many obscure DW youtubers, etc. that /who/ gets obsessed with
Well, it's not like ingiga or cats or prog are real people, yet we pretend they are.
old school /who/res just don't GET nilsoposting
how old is old school?
t. get nilsoposting and been here since 2013
I never made the connection before that "t. nilso" is just "FUCK OFF PROG" for neo-/who/
you qualify as old school. but i think you're one of the odd ones out
I support of a twink companion
GWAAD Neoposting in the Twitter
What's a Doctor Who episode about class traitors?
Just woke up. Please tell me the Sandifer Nilso wiki thing didn't go anywhere, I can't handle another disaster
we're on 8chan, remember? there's /who/ regulars that probably don't know we're here, there's no way outsiders will
The status of the general is not what I'm worried about.
The wiki being browsed by outsiders (worse, big-name-fans) is usually a recipe for awkwardness and things getting deleted.
as far as I'm aware, nothing has happened since sandy got the (mostly incorrect) explanation from that "doctor who wiki" user
it apparently never crossed her mind to see if there was an article about herself, so we dodged a bullet
who is liz calling "the Dumpster Fire That Walks Like a Man"?
Now you mention it, that Doctor Who Wiki person (since they are trying to create an 'alternative wiki') will probably have given our wiki some measure of academic scrutiny.
That's her term for Vox Day if I remember rightly?
who cares if anything gets deleted? that's what the wiki is for: DELETION
Bit rich coming from Sandifer.
Forced discord meme.
what is Vox Day? The news site?
i support of a twink companion pair
why is /who/ so fucking gay
Why isn't it gayer?
should i start looking for guys on dating apps? I've been getting practically zero luck with women so far. i have 50ish likes on okcupid and judging by the pixelated pics, i think they are mostly men.
they probably all think im a bottom tho
prison gay is a red flag
THE EVIDENCE BEFORE THE COURT IS
is that hand meant to be cradling his balls or fingering his asshole?
Personally I think /who/ could do with a little more cock
Bit of both I think?
what did you mean by this
"prison gay" is a term used for people who resort to relations with guys because they have failed at getting women. Comes from the stereotype of guys in prison fucking each other since there are no girls around.
it's a red flag because there's every chance that they're not going to be satisfied with a guy and/or will leave as soon as they find a women they might have a chance with
You could just get tits tatooed on your back?
This is totally me and Kinda <3
how hard do you think ingiga is fapping right now as he posts yaoi in the thread as glittergun
Objectively the best kind of thread.
no i wasn't
i am attracted to men, i just don't like them. i absolutely would pick a woman over a man every time, even just platonically.
Only Neo is allowed to spread lies this nefarious about me.
are you also the same liar anon whose friends broke up
You may not be posting it but you're still fapping
no, I'm the one that called him a nasty liar funnily enough
I'm actually on a temporary hiatus from fapping, websurfing, video games, and eating sugary foods
I'm the liar and the prison gay anon is not me
I haven't heard anything new from him but I'll hopefully meet up with him in a couple days, assuming that things aren't improving I think it's best for both of them that they break up for real but it might take a bit for him to come to terms with that
this yaoiposting is the gays showing off their complete control of /who/ and i will NOT stand for it. us straights must fight back
That's how you end up old and bitter, like Nilso.
this is a gays only event, go home
Well, I always have been a power bottom ;)
just understand that there is literally nothing wrong with moderate masturbation. As long as it's not inhibiting your ability to function in society there's nothing to be concerned about. nofap is a meme for people with crippling porn addictions
I agree completely, I'm just trying to get over a procrastination habit and that means eliminating distractions for a few days.
>tfw have trouble going to sleep without masturbating
m-masturbating sure is dandy
/who/ is a distraction tho
>nofap is a meme
This, that is unless you're looking to lower your testosterone. You need to fap at least every 5 days to not have a drop off.
True although it's not one that provides me any sort of momentary pleasure, it's more of a chore in itself.
>tfw banned self from masturbating until you're able to achieve a prostrate orgasm but the prostrate massager you bought doesn't work and the buyers don't seem to want to refund you
I can't imagine anyone wanting to buy a second hand prostate massager
you think a companies 'buy' back products that they send to you faulty? and then use them?
I don't want to send it back. I just want my money back so I can order a replacement
are you sure that the product is faulty? Is it possible you're just unfamiliar with how to use it properly?
you sound like the buyer
yes. it doesn't turn on. there's only 1 button and you need to hold it down for 3 seconds. my theory is that the cable is faulty and isn't charging it, but i've never seen a cable like it before so i can't test that out
yeah okay that's a bit fucked that they won't do anything about it
The aneros? How is it not "working"?
If you ordered through amazon it's relatively painless to get a refund. I had to get a credit for a fucking machine as well as **"a sex wedge that had a massive hole in it" . Didn't have to return either.
they're not outright refusing, they're asking me to film me trying to turn it on and email it to some address so they can help "solve" the issue which feels like a waste of both of our times
nah, it's some no brand product. i think ill contact ebay about it soon
if it's the only way to convince them to do something, it's not a waste of time. filming turning it on wouldn't take long
i get the impression that they're not asking for proof that it's broken so that they refund me (it would be easy to fake that anyway) but that they still think there's something that can be troubleshot here, as if i don't know how to hold a button down for 3 seconds
>no brand product
Well, you get what you pay for, especially with sex toys. If it's a vibrating toy and you don't get a resolution you can always get a secondary vibrator and just well kinda sit on it with your broken toy. Trojan makes a mighty good wand one for cheap that you can get at walgreens or wal-mart, anywhere trojan condoms are sold.
it wasn't super cheap, thirty bucks, and it actually seems to be good quality. it turned on when I first got it, I really do think it's just the cable that's broken
please don't give me advice on how to use sex toys you weirdo
>not appreciating sex toy advice from uncle cloi
Well then take this advice. Never purchase a rechargeable item that doesn't use micro usb or usb to charge.
Cartoon porn is the absolute worst
it is a USB charger, but because the item goes inside of your ass and you need to be able to clean it, it has no exposed ports. instead you jam this long pointy bit, that resembles an audio jack, through the bendy-plastic into a hole
that's why i can't just use a different cable
>instead you jam this long pointy bit, that resembles an audio jack, through the bendy-plastic into a hole
now that I'm writing that, is it possible that the bendy plastic is meant to tear and that's why it isn't charging? because the metal isn't making direct contact?
it doesn't mention that in the instructions at all
the absolute worst is studio porn where there's no real emotion involved and you can't help but think of the fact that it's all fake and there's a crew watching them fuck
the only good live action porn is amateur by real couples
you'll have to post a picture, I'm not confident enough to give advice without seeing it
nevermind, i had a closer look and there's a tiny hole in the material that the jack goes through
That's terrible design. Any vibrating toy that recharges that I have charges via the base, using a mini usb jack, and they ALL have a rubberized cover attached to cover the slot when not charging.
Modern studio porn is shit but the 80's stuff is primo kino
can't believe i have to email a video of me trying to use this thing. when i imagined sending a video of myself and a sex toy, this isn't what i pictured
just watched infinity war AMA
why do you still post here?
because /who/ is still banned on 4chan :^)
was there anything that surprised you given that you knew a lot coming into it?
I was surprised at how quality some of the thanos scenes were, i REALLY liked the scene where he kills his daughter i thought that did that really well
I was also surprised at how fucking much it dragged on for the first half.
The reason Sandifer found out about Nilso is because you retards started nilsoposting on her comments section
When I Nilsopost I make sure to never take it off-site
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Did I miss something
Whelan is the only person who is saying this, he's lying as usual
Does anybody have a Clara or Amy Big Chief Studios figure?
If so, what do they look like with their clothes removed?
Do any of you guys see yourself as mediocre at best? How have you learned to accept it?
I accepted that years ago.
I wanted to stream kino directed by new confirmed S11 director but I can't find it online :(
The Ravens (2016)
>awards pictured on the poster are three times as many as the film's ratings on IMDb
>turn on CD extra interview
>left ear exclusive
Turns out it was my headphones all along. Sorry Nick
>One day I might actually hear an argument from anti-discord people that isnt just "m-muh anonimity"
who is GrandWizardMiller on the discord?
one day i will hear an argument from a pro-discord person that i respect. still waiting though
except immigrant. he's cool
Thanks Cats. You're cool too.
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How do you make a wish come true /who/? How can I get Peter Capaldi cast in Bill & Ted III
(inb4 "she") Okay so I was checking out the Eruditorum blog after that drama with the caretaker shit, and have been reading the posts for a few eps that I like. I get most of what Sandifer is saying, and I think she's sincere in her opinions, so even if I dont agree with her I'm at least interested in what she has to say. But I read the post on "The Mind Robber" which linked to some incoherent stuff about alchemy and symbolism or whatever. And then that linked to the post on "The Pandorica Opens" which is more of the same… Can someone explain what Sandifer is trying to say in those articles, because either there's a load of context I'm missing, or it really is an incoherent mess. The stuff sounds like it could be interesting if I had more context, or if Sandifer was a little clearer…. Im not looking for opinions, just an explanation of what she's trying to say so I can make up my own mind on whether it's bullshit. I like that metatextual kind of analysis, I just dont understand those 2 from what Ive read.
Try the Three Doctors post sometime.
In actuality, there is a bit of context you're missing. Actually, I think we're all missing it because El Sandi's never really laid out all the pieces, but the big part is that David Whittaker was apparently a magician or something. Sandifer is a believer ("believer") in magic ("magic"), and describes Doctor Who as a work of sentient metafiction. She compares it specifically to the DC universe, which was also described as sentient metafiction by Grant Morrison, a famous writer and magician ("magician").
The "we're all stories in the end" stuff also links heavily to Steven Moffat's views on the show and how time works, which is a part of why they fit together in Sandifer's view.
What "magic" and "magician" mean is best left for you to discover, but the short version is that "magic" is a system wherein symbols can affect reality, a "magician" is someone who knows how to create and work those symbols. In that respect, politics is magic, and that's definitely a part of how this view of the show works.
>Sandifer is a believer ("believer") in magic ("magic")
can you elaborate on this?
Firstly, TARDIS Erudotorium isn't exactly a review blog. The idea is to show how, through all 50 years of Who's existence, Doctor Who has paralleled and been connected to the time period it's been airing, often connecting to events in weirdly synchronous ways, if only on a thematic level.
Another important concept is that, even though Who is a science fiction show, it oftens makes more sense when seen in terms of "narrative symbols." For example, the Daleks can be seen as a symbol for "narrative collapse", as in the point where Doctor Who as a story can no longer function, and she links this to the cancellation. Not that "the Daleks literally killed Who", but in terms of symbols, whenever the Daleks show up, the Daleks represent "a narrative logic that can kill Who", and the story's resolution is usually showing how Doctor Who's logic defeats whatever logic the Daleks represent in the story.
Alternatively, the Cyber-men represents our mirror images, our opposite selves.
Another important concept is alchemy. Basically, Doctor Who's strength is a reliance on alchemy, which is essential the ability to change social structures through material social progress. The concepts of alchemy are weaved into the very beginning of the show (David Whitaker was an occultist, and used alchemical concepts as philosophical underpinnings of the show), and those concepts are the lens that Sandifer chooses to see Who through.
A final concept is "the Doctor as the Master of the Land of Fiction." Basically, she's half-jokingly states that the Doctor became the Master of Fiction after the Mind Robber, and so gains the power to know what narrative he's in, as well as subvert the narrative. She links it to Who's capability to constantly jump through genres.
My best suggestion would be to start from the Unearthly Child post, and keep on going. It'll be long, but rewarding. (And definitely read the comments as well. They're often as constructive as the actual essays.)
If you have any questions, ask. This post explains the whole thing as well: >>25884
Sandifer saying he believes in magic is like when Neo jokes about being in love with Ingiga–you're pretty certain it's just a meme, and yet…
Part of the trouble with joining in at The Caretaker post, is that the Caretaker post is explicitly not like what Sandifer usually does. It's an intentional subversion, to a degree.
Is there any other analysis of Doctor Who on a meta level that goes as far as eruditorum? The stuff about narrative collapse and subverting it by "choosing a better story" is super super interesting to me, but the magical stuff is impossible to get my head round. I have no doubt it means something, it's just difficult to try and digest as a reader. I'd be interested in other blogs that analyse the show though.
The About Time books by Lawrence Miles and Tat Wood
thanks, I'll check it out. Are they in the book Mega?
Just part of the Hartnell book, unfortunately.
what are some doctor who episodes about an oasis of good in a sea of evil?
what are some doctor who episodes about letting go of false pretences of civility and revealing your true colors?
do your homework cats
Lie of the Land, because the "LOL It was a prank Bill why u mad" scene was when the episode let go of the false pretence of being good.
Write another UNSW Love Letter to Nilso, Kinda.
I need a list of all trips that are real people so I can understand what is going on better
the wiki has a "trip OCs" page
those ones are fictional, the rest are real people
>burning the us flag
>death to america
i thought this was the kind of stuff you liked, kinda?
>tfw you forgot to save that image and it's too long ago to have any chance of finding in their post history
a trip is merely a virtual vessel which "real people" use to communicate. why does it matter how many people use the vessel? it's all one output in the end.
Trip OCs are handles that anyone can use to roleplay as a character.
Regular trips are used by one person and in most cases showcase the true personality of that individual.
>in most cases showcase the true personality of that individual
it's all roleplay on the internet. some just do it more than others.
you may use it for roleplaying as a shitpost persona, but most other trips present their genuine personalities. Even in your case, your actual personality comes through fairly often
Er, thank you. I meant "she".
once the shit trips deadline passes, approximately how long should it take to collate it all?
is she not a real woman to you immigrant?
trans discourse is cancelled on /who/
I'm not sure. That's up to Neo…it'll probably be about a week, I guess.
what is the doctor who equivalent of pic related?
masturbating to the witch's familiar. dutton and davros are basically the same in both appearance and policy
Nation's Law. Fucking lefties comparing everyone they don't like to Davros.
>masturbating to the witch's familiar.
I dunno. Witch's Familiar at least has Clara and Missy, and Capaldi's floof.
dutton did literally nothing wrong
t. enjoys being dominated by a tough authoritarian government
where do you even find such an image
I only post with my trip on here since IDs are carried to each new thread and i could be found out by whoever admins here
I miss Doctor Who Stalker Reports drama. It was a simpler time.
don't be scared of cloister. he hasn't revealed any of my shenanigans yet. though i suppose he doesn't need to
Chadam Orford at it again
>Doctor Who fans boycott official magazine over young age of new reviewer team
how childish of them. real adults boycott dwm because the time team's full of rtdbads
doctor who equivalent of pic related?
less than 15 posts until thread locks
>kicking someone out of your house because they show you some of their homevids
>this thread lasted for 4 days
/who/ is finally dying
I recorded the narration to Foreman, directoranon wanna share the google drive link here or on CC so I can share it? It was mostly one take and I think I mispronounced AX if that was meant to be a gag with Axe as I considered towards the end, so just let me know any part you want redone (it's 0 trouble to redo bits).
You guys see BF's Paul Spragg contest has opened up? Any of you writing anything? I'm going to try if I have the time.
Also, you see Capaldi is working with Armando Iannuci again, in his Copperfield film?
Hugely overstated, and both Moff and Cornell have confirmed there's plenty of stuff in the original script that wasn't added back in either. Seriously they are overstating this massively; the "new" material in the book is mostly Cornell's own Cornellisms.
Based N8 with the original post.
Although I disagree with Claudia's opinions there honestly I do agree with her distaste for that kind of automatic hostility in online arguments/conversations. Although she kind of folds back on that by just being passive aggressive,
Loz did literally nothing wrong.
This, people get insurlary minded with fictional characters to a dangerous degree.
Oh shit, it's real?
I've been here before.
Are people still content with Miraheze?
Ah. Let's keep looking for a mo to see if we can't find any sites with TOS more to our liking. Not our TOS. Terms of Service!
Unfortunately that seems to have been an off-the-cuff joke clickbaiters are running with like it was a real confirmation.
I think she has vapours of us.
He's a fantastic writer and easily one of the strongest of that crop of writers.
I know I don't really have any claim to "ownership" of the name "Neo", but all the same - I'd really rather folks didn't do things like this. I've accumulated a lot attached to this name and I'd hate for interacting with Who adjacent people on Twitter and getting involved with /who/ adjacent stuff like the CCs to get nixed because of people messing around like that.
>implying we don't have some of the most ardent KTM defenders here
She posts t. Nilso
She posts, she posts t. Nilso
Eruditorum isn't a review series, it's a narrativised history using Doctor Who to map out other things. If you start from the beginning you'll get the context. Keep in mind a lot of it is a position she's taking for the sanctity of the narrative, not so much her own personal views...it really is misguided to treat the series like a review blog, though I understand why some do. This post is good too >>25884; are you familiar at all with Alan Moore?
Tentatively a week, certainly by the end of the month.
Hello Neo. How have you been? Did you do any writing on your sabbatical?
Been fantastic, and unfortunately not, I was very occupied. Excited to dig back into it now though. Nice explanation of Sandy's stuff earlier, well-said.
Ahh. I hope things went well.
And thanks about the Sandy thing. I've always liked "symbolic" type stuff, so the way Sandifer thinks about Who appeals to me greatly.
Don't know if anyone linked this already, but if you'd like to read about the view that "art = magic", Alan Moore (who Sandifer values more highly than Morrison, to be sure) wrote a pretty thorough explanation in an old essay of his. In it, he talks about how the idea of magic was slowly misunderstood over time, and argues for how art actually performs nearly all of the tasks we attribute to magic.
>Art’s power is immediate and irrefutable, immense. It shifts the consciousness, noticeably, of both the artist and her audience. It can change men’s lives and thence change history, society itself. It can inspire us unto wonders or else horrors. It can offer supple, young, expanding minds new spaces to inhabit or can offer comfort to the dying. It can make you fall in love, or cut some idol’s reputation into ribbons at a glance and leave them maimed before their worshippers, dead to posterity. It conjures Goya devils and Rosetti angels into visible appearance. It is both the bane and most beloved tool of tyrants. It transforms the world which we inhabit, changes how we see the universe, or those about us, or ourselves.
>What has been claimed of sorcery that art has not already undeniably achieved? It’s led a billion into light and slain a billion more. If the accretion of occult ability and power is our objective, we could have no more productive, potent means or medium than art whereby this is to be accomplished. Art may not make that whisk-broom come to life and multiply and strut round cleaning up your crib…but nor does magic, for that matter…yet simply dreaming up the image must have surely earned Walt Disney enough money so he could pay somebody to come by and take care of that stuff for him. And still have enough change to get his head put in this massive hieroglyphic-chiselled ice cube somewhere underneath the Magic Kingdom. There, surely to God, is all of the implacable Satanic influence that anybody, sane or otherwise, could ever ask for.
This, people who think types like Moore are crazy for thinking they're "literal" wizards are missing the point.
>directoranon wanna share the google drive link here or on CC so I can share it?
Do you mean you've already uploaded it and have a link or have you not uploaded it yet
I don't have the link to upload it
if you've ever opened the foreman drive it should be in your history