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Daleks Vs. Mechons edition
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No.3865
>>3860Having a companion didn't stop him from brutally torturing the Family of Blood though.
As much as I love that story, and Tennant is superb, that is possibly the most unDoctory thing ever done
No.3866
>>38651 laughed in gleeful insane delight as Rome and its people burned to death in front of his eyes.
No.3867
>>3852this pasta is just stupid, and explains fuck all. He got no character development. These character descriptions apply to 8, but not really 10.
No.3868
No.3869
>>3865Martha didn't stop him, and he never really liked her in the first place - she didn't have that sort of effect on him. Contrast with Donna, his best friend: she snapped him out of it while he was genociding the Racnoss, and he was as a whole really good when she was around. "The man who never would" and all (though that was really just to establish that civilization with a working ethics; far more utilitarian than presented). 10 was possessed with an epic moral struggle, and that makes him one of the most tragic Doctors in my eyes.
No.3870
>>3865didn't 6 choke a man to death?
No.3871
>>3865That was a 7 story.
I don't get why they adapted it for 10.
Would have been a great capaldi though.
No.3872
>>3866Yes, but 1 hadn't really grown into what defines the Doctor by then, I think that's an unfair comparison. 1 had great development, and that shows a side to him that definitely faded and never came back
No.3873
>>3869Your just coming up with bullshit and headcanons to try and fix the shitty inconsistent character development.
No.3874
>>3872>1 hadn't really grown into what defines the Doctor by thenSo basically excuses is what you're saying
No.3875
>>3872What about 7 pushing two dudes into acid…
No.3876
No.3877
>I was only 14 years old
>I loved the Tenth Doctor so much, I had all the merchandise and episodes
>I pray to Ten every night before bed, thanking him for the life I've been given
>"Ten is love" I say; "Ten is life"
>/doctorwho/ reads my blog and they call me a faggot
>I know they are just jealous of my devotion for based Ten
>I called then a bunch of racist shitlords
>They shitpost on my tumblr and send me to go to sleep
>I'm crying now, and my face hurts
>I lay in my TARDIS-inspired bed and it's really cold
>Suddenly, a warmth is moving towards me
>It's Ten
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear "Always bring a banana to a party."
>He grabs me with his powerful Timelord hands and puts me down onto my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I spread my ass-cheeks for Ten
>He penetrates my butt-hole with his Sonic Dildo
>It hurts so much but I do it for Ten
>I can feel my butt tearing as my eyes start to water
>I push against his force
>I want to please Ten
>He roars in a mighty roar "Allons-y!" as he fills my butt with his regeneration energy
>My dad walks in
>Ten looks him straight in the eyes and says "I don't want to go."
>Ten leaves through my window and hops into the TARDIS
>Ten is love. Ten is life.
No.3878
>>3869I can see how most of the "tragic figure" stuff works, and I used to argue for it, but some of that writing is just inconsistent episode to episode.
He's willing to sacrifice him self several times to save lives (which is a very Doctorish trait) and then bitches at Wilf at the end?
No.3879
>>3876Yeah, fucking tablet typing sucks.
No.3880
>>3829>Colin and Nicola have kissed for the sake of artSuddenly I view them in a subtly different light.
No.3881
>>3875It was 6, and he really didn't. One was trying to push him in, and the Doctor was fighting for his life, and the other guy was dragged in by the first.
Fighting for your life is very different to just torturing someone you've already beaten, for the craic
No.3882
>>3881I think you're making excuses.
No.3883
No.3884
I can't believe we have people on /doctorwho/ arguing for a moral Doctor archetype. I mean, have you not seen Flatline
>You were an exceptional Doctor. Goodness has nothing to do with it.
fucking dropped
No.3885
>>3874Not at all. I don't see why anyone could use Early 1 as a comparison to later Doctors, just like there are flaws with holding post-Time War Doctors to the same standards of pre-Time War Doctors.
Also, when comparing, the different incarnations reacted very differently to things and can't really be held to the same standard.
However, 10 has these inconsistencies within his own incarnation, which isn't growth or development, just bad writing
No.3886
>>3882I think you're making excuses the other way. The inconsistencies are within 10s own incarnation
No.3887
Eight spinoff when
No.3888
No.3889
>>3886I know 10 is inconsistent. He's written like a bipolar maniac. I just think your idea that the Doctor has never been violent or cruel makes no sense.
No.3890
>>3884That still doesn't explain crazy different character reactions/actions/behaviour of the one incarnation.
I'm not pissed at the writing just because I think the bitch fit at Wilf was unDoctory, but because sacrificing himself for humans was something that 10 was previously written as doing easily. Just look at the end of the Poison Sky, when he is willing to die saving everyone. No bitch fit then
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No.3893
>>3889>Never cruel or cowardlydropped
No.3894
No.3895
I don't get why people hate on 5. He's got fantastic character development. Think about it . He also started out as a man full of love and hope, but many of his companions either died or left on less than ideal terms and as his run went on the moments of despair became more frequent (the end of Warriors of the Deep, thinking he had lost the TARDIS forever in Frontios) until by the second half of season 21 he had become a pretty hardened, ruthless motherfucker, different from the happy-go-lucky Doctor seen at the beginning of season 19. He came this close to actually killing Davros, he actually let the Master burn and of course all this comes to a boil in The Caves of Androzani where we see just how determined the Doctor is not to lose anyone else. He'll go to any lengths to save someone he just met because he owes it to her since he's the one who got her into this. It's like he's redeeming himself for all the failures throughout his life and that's why when he regenerates he sees all his past companions willing him to live.
This post started as modified pasta but then turned into something serious.
No.3896
>>38933 would slap their shit and 7 would say he planned it.
No.3897
>>3895I think this is valid, but only because of Caves of Androzani.
Five can be so bland, and blase about the loss of that family, but Caves really makes it all work.
Robert Holmes understood the Doctor like maybe only Moffat has since.
No.3899
>>3890I thought it was pretty damn obvious that 10 was manipulating the hell out of everyone in that.
>leaving Martha in the sex basement so her clone can stop the nukes>locking Donna in the Tardis so she can open up the transport>dropping all the right hints so the genocidal supergenius will blow up the Sontarans No.3900
>>3889There are inherent qualities that the Doctor tried to adhere too, like the never cruel or cowardly thing. So much so that he dropped the name of the Doctor when he felt he couldn't live up to it.
10 in particular is written often as an especially pacifist Doctor, and yes this is at odds with some early stuff, but that's okay, the Time War changed him. But when the writing breaks it's own character rules, that's a problem
No.3901
>>3899That's a reading that makes 10s character seriously unstable and borderline evil. There's no way that was the intention. Davies' and Gardener's intentions for 10 were pretty clear, there's no way that's what was intended
No.3902
>>3901Considering some of the stuff 10 did like drowning babies and imprisoning people in eternal prisons I wouldnt put that beneath him.
No.3903
Ten's "no second chances" attitude was pretty consistent in series 2. Remember him telling the Crillitane or however the fuck it's spelled in School Reunion "I used to have so much mercy. You get one warning." It wasn't until series 3 that they started to fuck it up with stuff like forgiving the Master.
No.3904
>>3884Never cruel or cowardly
It's literally the closest we have to a rule
No.3906
>>3901>That's a reading that makes 10s character seriously unstable and borderline evil.… And this contradicts canon how?
>There's no way that was the intention.http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeathOfTheAuthorDamn, this board is suddenly hella uncomfy. See you all on /who/
No.3907
>>3903I used to have so much mercy!
No.3908
>>3902That's the problem. That stuff was written alongside the "I'm so sorry" shit
No.3909
>>3905I don't know what you mean
No.3911
New thread when?
No.3912
>>3909Sorry, didn't mean to reply to you.
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No.3917
>>3906Because he's definitely not written as unstable or evil. He spends series two having a space romance with Rose. He's the beautiful lonely angel. He's the "stuff of legend". He the man filled with love and compassion.
Uncomfy? It's just discussion man