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"/who/ Cares?" podcast on Series 11: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz80wZ00_JjSaS2ZRrno1Pg

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Marcelo Camargo's Second Erasure edition

subpeenered: >>55249


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Whelan btfo



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This week make sure you have the up-to-date revision of ST 2.5 so you can read the completed version of the story! Link is at the bottom. (And it's accurate this time.)



By Nilso

>What if Doctors regenerated a season later?

Read, enjoy, discuss, reflect, shitpost.

Got questions about a story? Was there something you thought was GOAT? Memeyness that made you laugh? Let us all know. The floor is open all day.

If you wrote a story and you want to answer/ask questions in authorial capacity, consider a temporary trip.

Make it obvious which story you're posting about, & browse sensibly if you don't want to get spoiled on any stories. Hide this post with Filter -> Post+ to hide all replies.

Out of the loop but want to jump in?

Get Shit Trips: Volume 2.5 here:


https://mega.nz/#!Uf4EDaLT!bIa_JP_rbyl7Pl9NKq8tLopyOzXJFhlSu6Z4VZnt4Uk (This is the updated edition, 2.5.1)

Feedback from last thread (let me know if I missed yours):


Writer's response:





Fascinating that you chose that shot for power of the daleks- yes I can picture tomb's cliff shot vividly now, though initially I had the original The Daleks shot when they're on the barren cliff over looking the city with the Thals in mind.

I see what you're saying, although because of all the action i don't think Revenge would have been a terrible place to kill 3, theres some natural ways to do it there; but i agree that genesis is overall a better story, no question there.

In 2 if we're being honest i would have done a fakeout:Pertwee spends most of the last episode asleep and it would have been great to be like "oh no! He's dying" all story only to go super canon, have him tell off the brigadier like he does at the end and use his tardis console, then stumble back in covered in soot like he does in canon and have him apologize and regenerate. Still on a meta level the telesnaps image is VERY clever.

I will say that from what you're describing I did a lot of the same: we'll get into it when we get there, but approximately 5+ pages are out of the Threeish Doctors because to be honest no one really cares about the unit plot and the time lord pieces were covered in the story before it. There are some things i keep thinking I wish id kept but in hind sight flow is so much more important than extra nonsense for the sake of character wank. Maybe someday we'll all have to have a snyder cut of our long stories, eh?


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Oh no. Not the 00s.


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Nah, mate. They're in a pocket dimension.


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Oh no. Oh no.


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I hate it already.



>the lonely god

this name is easily the worst thing to come out of the RTD era.


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In a series that has the "I'M HUNGRY" scenes and the "Potions of Life (and the opposite)", it really isn't.



No, I genuinely believe that the name "The Lonely God" signifies everything wrong with the RTD era's melodramatic portrayal of the Doctor.



>that police box

What in the honest fuck?


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This is for the fangirls, isn't it?



The cliff bit was based on The Daleks but the fauna described was based on the Dr Who and the Daleks






>martha wearing native american clothing

this didn't age well



Martha was not this confident and fun-loving - she's acting like S9 Clara



t. Nilso


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Oh no. It's Spawn.


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Oh. That's a Sycorax, apparently.

They rock, apparently, also.



>Firstly, who are you calling irrelevant?

This writer has clearly never watched a Martha episode in his life



I think Martha was spunkier than people here are saying, but yeah, "Firstly" sounds wrong. Also

>This is why we rock



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He looks really upset about it.


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It's not a magic wand or a weapon, guys.



Frankly, he looks pleased.


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When in doubt, run away like a bitch.



>go go sycorax super jump


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I'm not editing these.



Why have they all got big hands


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Happy Independence Day, American /who/res.


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yeah, I hate London too.

Well, that was pretty bad, but not the worst thing I've read all week.


Shit trips links updated.

off again for awhile, behave yourselves





underrated post





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What was it with sexy archaeologists in this era?



it was a better time



Can't argue.









The first female doctor and they give her an outfit with negative sex appeal. Why do lefties have to ruin everything?



'Cause, the thing is, it's like my friend Vicky


You know the Vatican?



just wait until the short skirt variant




Not until the right wing surge of 2020.


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Is this a thing that exists?



Yes, every summer we erect a great wicker statue of John Lennon in Hyde Park and burn it to the ground


Horns of Nimon in the Twitch tonight (after Creature from the Pit and Nightmare of Eden). Should be legendary.



Okay. Just making sure.



Did you know John Lennon beat his wife?



Hola /mu/!



I'm more interested in their reaction to the new titles/theme in The Leisure Hive.


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Remember when 60's nostalgia was in style? Remember Austin Powers?

The Pertwee costume is a nice touch, tbf.



It's more of a Reddit thing, frankly.



His wife was Yoko Ono though.


>tfw yoko ono is holding back the release of carnival of light because it's too avant garde even for her



>no panel where the shop assistant refuses to serve Martha


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Fucking Phil! What's his problem, anyway?



Shame, it would've been great to have you on the verge of tears again.






RTD could claim love and monsters is “Avantgarde” and you would all praise it as genius


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Avant garde a clue.



>the english don't use 'z' in 'ise' words, so they must spell 'prezzies' with 'S'es



>next frame is 10 strangling Martha in a secluded alleyway

Bravo Raimi



it is genius


The best Beatle was George Martin.



Where do you get z from in presents?



>no panel where Martha delivers Vicky her present and repeatedly tells her to get out

Why live?



What's the relevance of Vicky?


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Nah, it was the Doctor



Rose loved drugs.

Phil HATED hats.


Say what you want about RTD Who, but at least it was FUN and had high ratings.



She lived with those bloke, student housing, five of them all packed in, and this bloke was called Sean. And she loved him. She did, she completely adored him, spent all day talking about him. But he never looked at her twice. I mean he liked her…that was it. And she wasted years pining after him, years of her life, 'cause while he was around she never looked at anyone else. And I told her, time and time again, I said, "Get out!"



I can only enjoy Doctor Who if the majority of the British public is enjoying it as well.



Is this a parody of RTD speech?



I had fun once, and it was awful.



I said to Ringo "I can rattle off a tune," he said "Pardon?"



It literally IS RTD speech

Martha leaving Tennant in LotTL



That IS rtd speech


The Moffag doesn’t watch Doctor Who because they enjoy it, they watch it so they can complain about it on every platform. No wonder these people gravitate to the Capaldi era so much



It's a direct quote from an episode, m8.



>they watch it so they can complain about it on every platform. No wonder these people gravitate to the Capaldi era so much

Explain the fact I frequently praise the Capaldi era instead of complaining about it.


Well that comic was boring. Something about an Egyptian cat turning people into sand. Martha talking about hats was the highlight.



People don't realise that the Moffat era is supposed to be bad.



Are these comics really short or do you read really quickly?



That was about 20 pages. I do read quite quickly.








>high ratings

>6.08 episode in tennants first season

>the first matt smith season never had an episode that low

>matt smith's entire run had at least half a million more viewers every single episode than tennant's low point

How is that considered good ratings, anon?



I already praise it as genius



Doctor Who is fueled by novelty. It always seems to do best when it's been away for a while, or when there's a new Doctor (unless the new Doctor just doesn't click with people).


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What's 8chan doing here?


The fact that so many books still name the Tennant era as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" period of Doctor Who only tells you how far the show still is from becoming a serious art. Star Trek fans have long recognized that the greatest ST series of all time was Deep Space Nine, which was not the most popular or successful or best selling of it's time, let alone of all times. The Tennant era was more popular than any other (not true, by the way), therefore it must have been the greatest. Who critics are often totally ignorant of the eras of the past, they barely know the all time classics. No wonder they will think that the Tennant era did anything worthy of being saved.



the robert holmes version is better desu


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Oh nooooo.



I am a dalek is a pretty good book.



The IDW run was trash, it's so much better under Titan.


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Why do you do these things, David?



Ah yes, IDW. They created truly revolutionary concepts, such as the Moment actually just being a de-mat gun from The Invasion of Time.



we cuphead now boys


Anyone wanna watch some kino in the stream?



is it clbill's feet?


>The creature from the pit turns up

>it looks like a giant fucking dick and ballsack

holy fuck





Baykdon has played the First Doctor in the DOCTOR WHO UNLEASHED audios


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>what the fuck did you just fucking say about me you little bitch I'll have you know that I graduated top of my class in the…



Was thinking more of Series 4, or maybe some more SJA, last night made me wanna watch more RTD Who again


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Definitely racist.




Why do they keep drawing him with suit jacket unbuttoned? He looks like an office worker


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Actually fleshing out New Earth in an interesting way here.



Eh fuck it

Eh fuck it

Midnight in the stream

Midnight in the stream



You know, this has put me in the mood for Gridlock. Let's watch that instead.



based "let's watch Gridlock instead" poster



As a fan of Gridlock I'm tempted to watch it, maybe after Midnight


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>those desert savages are going to tear our society to shreads

Man, they wouldn't be allowed to write this story today.



annoyed by that




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>annoyed by this





which half?




That one was pretty good. Starting to like this run now.


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Fuck yea.


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She looks uncomfortable.



The End of the Nilso

The Unquiet Nilso

Nilso of London

World War Nilso


The Long Nilso

Nilso's Day

The Empty Nilso

The Nilso Dances

Nilso Town

Bad Nilso

The Parting of the Nilso

The Nilso Invasion

New Nilso

Tooth and Nilso

Nilso Reunion

The Nilso in the Fireplace

Rise of the Nilso

The Age of Nilso

The Idiot's Nilso

The Nilso Planet

The Nilso Pit

Love and Nilso

Fear Nilso

Army of Nilso


The Runaway Nilso

Smith and Nilso

The Nilso Code


Nilso in Manhattan

Evolution of the Nilso

The Nilso Experiment


Human Nilso

The Family of Nilso



The Sound of Nilso

Last of the Nilso

Voyage of the Nilso

Partners in Nilso

The Fires of Nilso

Planet of the Nilso

The Nilso Stratagem

The Poison Nilso

The Doctor's Nilso

The Nilso and the Wasp

Silence in the Nilso

Forest of the Nilso


Turn Nilso

The Stolen Nilso

Nilso's End

The Next Nilso

Nilso of the Dead

The Waters of Nilso

The End of Nilso

The Eleventh Nilso

The Nilso Below

Victory of the Nilso

The Time of Nilso

Flesh and Nilso

The Nilso of Venice

Nilso's Choice

The Hungry Nilso

Cold Nilso

Vincent and the Nilso

The Nilso

The Nilso Opens

The Big Nilso

A Christmas Nilso

The Nilso Astronaut

Day of the Nilso

The Curse of the Black Nilso

The Nilso's Wife

The Rebel Nilso

The Almost Nilso

A Good Nilso Goes to War

Let's Kill Nilso

Nilso Terrors

The Nilso Who Waited

The Nilso Complex

Nilso Time

The Wedding of Nilso

The Nilso, the Widow and the Wardrobe

Asylum of the Nilso

Nilso on a Spaceship

A Town Called Nilso

The Power of Nilso

The Nilso Take Manhattan

The Nilso

The Bells of Saint Nilso

The Rings of Nilso

Cold Nilso


Journey to the Centre of the Nilso

The Nilso Horror

Nightmare in Nilso

The Name of the Nilso

The Day of the Nilso

The Time of the Nilso

Deep Nilso

Into the Nilso

Nilso of Sherwood


Nilso Heist

The Nilso

Kill the Nilso

Nilso on the Orient Express


In the Forest of the Nilso

Dark Nilso

Death in Nilso

Last Nilso

The Magician's Nilso

The Witch's Nilso

Under the Nilso

Before the Nilso

The Nilso Who Died

The Nilso Who Lived

The Nilso Invasion

The Nilso Inversion

Nilso No More

Face the Nilso

Nilso Sent

Nilso Bent

The Husbands of Nilso

The Return of Doctor Nilso

The Nilso


Thin Nilso




The Nilso at the End of the World

The Nilso of the Land

Nilso of Mars

The Eaters of Nilso

World Enough and Nilso

The Nilso Falls

Twice Upon a Nilso



Still dun get this mene, tbqh


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>tfw no (comic) Martha gf



Keep it that way.


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Uh! No. Not close up like that.



t. Nilso


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A general without Nilso scarcely bears thinking about.


I don't want this isolation

See the state Nilso's in now



t. Nilso


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I still don't know who Nilso is.



second worst song off the album desu



Get right to fuck


Gridlock in the stream


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Series 3 in a nutshell.


Magic City > Fire Flies > Sorcererz > One Percent > Kansas > Souk Eye > Hollywood > Tranz > Lake Zurich > Humility > Idaho


what the fuck.

nilsos story is actually good



Yes, it is!


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>Here's another six inches to add to your collection.

Is this one of the most ice-cold one-liners in Doctor Who history?



not responding to such bait



I'm quite partial to "Your turn!" from the Sea Devil Leader (?) in Warriors of the Deep


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>believing in nilso the meme so hard that nilso the man takes you by surprise

>nilso's face when the man exceeds the legend and now all of /who/ is on notice



I still cant believe how bad the art style was on that comic maker thing



Since S11 has scenes set in Sheffield could the Lord Mayor of Sheffield potentially become canon? He should be invited for a cameo.


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>tfw no rejected futuristic concept Zelda companion


Don't give me the silent treatment. She's cute in her little black pants. You can't deny it.


garlic bread



Fucking disgusting. Of all people, how dare he stand there and openly flaunt that helike flapjack and custard, that's gross as fuck



Is this a joke, or is that really the mayor of Sheffield?


Post the Blind Wave Beast Below reaction honey



It's only 5$ on patreon




>only $5



What is wrong with Sheffield?


Honey where's my Blind Wave Beast Below


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Based Gazza



nilso came to this


We will not see an S11 trailer until midway through August, at the absolute earliest.



It must be so difficult to be a white man.



Hopefully they just cancel it. No one wants a woman Doctor. It's time to accept that.



Doctor Who viewers can be relied on to not know or understand what they want until they see it.



he beat Cynthia though



I saw a white man begging on the street, his hands were dirty and coarse and rough and irritated, his lips were dehydrated and were puckering for some water. I kick that man in the face, stomped on his nutsack and yelled "fuck off whitey!" at the top of my lungs until he curled into the fetal position and cried himself to sleep.



Really? Because it seems like the most popular Doctors were loved immediately, while the less popular ones weren't. Very few people really came around to loving Colin Baker. I mean, okay, I did, but most people didn't.



No one cares.



What a privileged asshole.



You did the right thing.



I honestly don't care either i just don't like misinformation



But "loved immediately" usually relates to screen time. People were uneasy with Tom, David, Mett, etc. until they were actually in a full episode.



This would make sense if she had actually started.




I think Matt is still a marmite Doctor. A lot of people really don't like him still.



The Onion isn't funny.



Yeah that's a pretty good way of putting it. Still, those who love him REALLY love him.



t. Nilso verging with his flag off about how white privilege isn't real because white people can be homeless too



True, I get my daily dose of hilarious news from The Sun instead.






White privilege is as real in white countries as Chinese privilege is in China.


A forest in a bottle on a spaceship in a spaceship. Have I impressed you yet, Romanadvoratrelundar?



…so it's real?


If what was happening to immigrant children in America was happening to cletus whites instead it'd be pretty based.



And correct.



White kids are killed and sold for voodoo rituals in parts of Africa.



But are they Cletuses?




All whites are cletuses



People with albinism aren't true whites because race is fucking stupid.



Working class people you look down on and laugh at despite considering yourself a caring individual? Probably.


Imagine if America had an all-black state police force that shot unarmed whites on a regular basis and got away with it.



It's called South Africa.


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>yfw you're black but the anti-white rhetoric is starting to creep you out



I care about the working class, just not the whiteys.



Are you saying you support Apartheid?



And it's epic.



Blackpill: the "murder and rape cletus whites!" poster is a whitey smugly LARPing the bottomless well of senseless cruelty he imagines non-whites to be, reaffirming his sense of being persecuted by anti-racism.



I saw a black man today. He shot a white man and raped his girlfriend while the other blacks cheered on while shouting "allah ackbar". People on twitter called him a hero for defending himself from the oppression of WASPs. Now I know the horror of black privilege.



Based desu.



No, I do it because it puts Nilso on the verge of tears.





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I miss the good old days when black people and racists could get along.



Based, me too





This isn't me as I just explained, I am familiar with that article and (you)'ing at me does nothing


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>yfw you realize that giving Nilso a good review on his ST2.5 story might give you an in with the modbase>>56224


Nilso doesn't care about black people.



I believe it desu, if Chibnall didn't want to do Christmas specials then why would Moffat do TUAT to keep the slot?



Nilso does care about black people.

In many ways.





nilsos a race fetishist


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WIP, looking for amendments


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let's hope not!


im gay



Can't wait for the Greatest Nilshow in the Galaxy on book club

And Radical Doctor since it's my story and im sorrta proud of it


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Why aren't there any black people?


You should be proud. I'm looking forward to reactions to Perfect Authentic Cadence myself.


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>the anon who kept filling the stream with episodes no one wants to watch is actually Miller and we've been making fun of him by gridlockposting and he actually put it in the stream




Oh I hope so. Wayne Yip is like the most brutally wasted director of the late Moffat era. He did really good work on his Class episodes, and then got lumped with one of the most godawful scripts ever in Doctor Who. Chibnall recruiting him would be a dream.



t. Miller desperately trying to draw attention to the stream




I unironiclly thought people wanted Gridlock on





Bernie would support a female Doctor



Bernie was fucked from the start, it was always going to be Clinton heading the Dems. Despite America not being compatible with the process, he should have run for third party.


hoodie in the stream







And I genuinlly just want people to talk to, episodes are just excuses for me



Remember when he kept shilling that article?



HO-LY FUCK. I was really put off by the title at first but I've been skimming through this for the past half-hour or so and it might be the greatest piece of critical writing about Nilso ever written. It lays out, in immense detail, everything that's wrong with post-2017 Nilso and his fans.


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TFW /who/ mysteriously splits as some anons become supporters of the mayocide



Nothing is half-Nilso, the Nilso would never allow that



I don't think I want to talk to someone who talks about masturbating to anne frank pregnancy porn, sorry miller



Hey that was one time… I think


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>when you realise he's right about everything



This was on a few distinct occasions.



Hey I try not to talk about it anymore, and so far I've not until now



No second chances. I'm that sort of a man.



Possible blackpill: you aren't actually Miller but are just rolling with it because the truth is more embarrassing


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Imagine seeing 2oda in the stream and not leaving immediately.




YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.



Lalla Ward would have been a good Doctor.


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Reminder that there is a secret trip stream and only three people know the URL, one of which is me, and the other is another trip.



She was married to two.








All they discuss the canonicity of looms


brown bricks


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gigas lost his virginity



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>Nilso will never lose his virginity




So you're black?



this has been an established fact for years



Yes. I'm a black man.



Hes a self hating black


I want to cuddle Romana in this outfit.


I wonder what Emergency Awesome's top 5 WTF moments will be from S11E1



>no outfit pictured



The Matt Smith "era"



The one she's wearing in The Horns of Nimon.



who is best boy



Racist desu.



"putting" "words" "in" "quotes"



mocking my post has revealed you as a Clara Clutterbuck apologist


Reminder that S7B is not actually part of Smith's era but the overture to Capaldi's.



I honestly don't understand what you were alluding to. Was it not an era?



it was shit



11 died with Amy & Rory



If that's true, the Series 10 is an overture to 13's era.



Pretty much how I see it.


>juliorazo: I really despise you mods. This is how we get a culture of overly sensitive drones. I didn't even you what zelots like to call "bad words" and you not only not allow it to be seen you delete the message. (Not the same thing.) Have you read any forewarning novels or at least seen Black Mirror? (Before season 4, ugh). Censorship is being taken too far. Way too far. It disgusts me.

imagine caring this much about automatically filtered words in a stream chat



Black Mirror is real, dude.


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It was still an era.


I'm appalled by the divisive rhetoric that's split /who/. Surely it's time for everyone to come together to do exactly what I say.






What is this?



I've grown to like this meme more over time.



The doctor is now a woman. This is a reference to the first episode the Daleks where his grandaughter is a girl



Mike Matei has a ten incher



Something someone posted in the Twitch chat. It's funny to occasionally spot individual users who are hung up on some incredibly petty thing and keep posting about it even as nobody fucking cares.



I imagine that's because it's better when it's used during relevant situations, i.e. times when people are being hostile towards others


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imagine looking at her pusy



Bet it's orrid.



the classic streams? sounds like a trip that im glad to miss.





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Roll random number on http://numbergenerator.org/randomnumberbetween1and100 to claim a free and loving Doctor Who waifu.

If she's not on the chart, she's non-canon. Sucks to be you.



Well that's embarrassing, I added the wrong one. Fuck it, use this one.



>Amy Pond

thank you number gen



I better not get *bleurk* Clara Clutterbuck


>11.7k viewers for Nimon




Molly Sullivan? Is this a good pick?




>I got my actual dr who waifu

A blessed day, fellas.



No, she isn't canon



You'd like Molly



>not updating it to include 13

come the FUCK on



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If you're into irish chicks, then sure.


*blocks your path*



Irish, very feisty, historical (WWI), tough as nails, puts the Doctor in his place when she has to



that's not canon either


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she has big tits


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She sounded a lot more homely.



Moffat's attempt at RTD's "turn some mundane Christmas thing into a killing machine" strategy had mixed results.


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So did RTD's attempts



Charley Pollard






Wait I think I misread that 43 I got as a 48 or something. Still, I guess it's no givsies backsies now by waifu gambling rules?



It doesn't even matter, anon, do what you want


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pure qt



l e g g



Fuck I rerolled a few more times and ended up getting Tegan again.


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age of steel and rise of the cybermen in the stream



MFW Rise of the Cyberman is on in the stream in a few minutes.



awful story



To be fair, if you've seen the latex pics, you know Tegan can be hot. Also, her dress in Enlightenment.

Honestly, just don't kidnap her into space on the day her aunt is killed, and she'll probably be okay to you.



I don't know what I hate most about Tegan.


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Send pics.


I would hate fuck the hell out of Tegan


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XXXTentacion was shot dead in 2018 at the age of 20. Not a big loss for music.


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"Seriously? Did you borrow that coat from a Pride parade?"

"I beg your pardon?"

"I'm not judging. I support your statement. Maybe not your fashion statement. But I support–"

"This coat is the utter height of sartorial excellence. I handpicked it myself."

"Good for you."



Holy FFFFuck. I guess this is my life now.



"Six faces earlier and you're a stubborn old git."


Steven Moff(sh)it



*"stupid bloody arse"




Yeah, "stupid arse" is more Bill's style. "Stubborn old git" sounds like Tegan.


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>roll 67

>charlotte pollard

Fuck yeah mother lovers



very rude language for a christmas episode for children



Where's that pic of India Fisher bending down in front of the camera when you need it?



All this talk of Tegan all of a sudden.



"Blimey, even that coat's a bit garish to me. Are you sure you don't have anything a bit more… muted?"

"I'll have you know that this colour scheme was handpicked by the most stylistically in-tune Coloursmiths of Pandolina to mark the anniversary of their rescue from the hands of the Drahvin Slaver Fleet. To them, the display of colours is a symbol of honour and social standing - the brighter, the better!"

"Bloody hell, if they ever take up painting we're screwed."


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


NuWho music over Classic videos/episodes is my shit



didn't mean to reply to >>56362


Soldeed cracking up a bit and struggling to keep a straight face as he delivers his final line is just perfection.



Five with Tegan is one of my favorite TARDIS teams.


I think you did this better than me. Definitely have a better last line.

Nacho, get involved!


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I still miss him ;(



It's gotten to the point where I hear Briggs Finish 6 rather than televised 6 and that's a good thing



This is only because of the latex pics isn't it? Stop trying to convert anons to your degenerate ways.




It would have been nice if Bill had adventures with 13 for Series 11.


Jon Pertwee died from a heart attack in 1996 at age 76. Not a big loss for television.



Do you live to spout contrarian opinions?




No, I just thought Bill deserved more time. Actually, I would have liked more 12/Bill/Nardole, but I'd settle for Bill interacting with a new Doctor.




What's your favourite quote from the wiki?

>Despite being dead, Rog insisted on playing the Mattress once more in The Deadly Assassin.


Well, we're up to the JNT era. It's only downhill from here.


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>that random fucking scene at the start of Leisure Hive where you're relieved to see K9 has his proper voice back but then he immediately runs off into the sea and dies again


Howell theme is too based




I find the minute-long shot of the camera panning across the beach before finally getting to the TARDIS hilarious


Christ I hate Season 18.


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Wow you are a pleb. You are just too dumb to understand the science of it. Loser. Go back to school.


Is Lalla Ward the best actress to play a classic companion?



At least two thirds of the E-Space trilogy is great. yes, even with Adric.



Honestly, that's kind of nice. Not a smart move as far as the show was concerned, but it's the sort of bold visual and atmospheric decision people would respect if it was a film. Plus it's a savvy nod to the fact it's the start of the season and everyone is waiting to see the Doctor and TARDIS again.







if it were* a film

conditional clause


It's really quite incredible how JN-T's first act was to suck all the entertainment value out of Doctor Who.


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okay idk who you are but the 7 flag is mine and correcting a lack of conditional clause is my thing



JNT sucked a lot of things during his time as producer



Please don't use my images and filenames, thanks.


Adric is underrated, tbqh


Tom is the only saving grace of this and even then he's running out of steam.


I miss Judy and her sister Molly



It's sad to watch an actor play the Doctor even though he's clearly fallen out of love with the role. It's even sadder to know that's because he's currently working with the man who caused him to refuse to come back for The Five Doctors.



It's like this watching the entire Capaldi era



>implying Capaldi ever showed his distaste for a script outside of Sleep No More






He quite openly detested the scene where he was forced to ride on a tank with a guitar and a disgusting hoodie in a desperate and embarrassing attempt to appeal to the youth.



He was clearly bored throughout his whole era.






No, but it's good to know my impression is appreciated.






JNT > Adams



Wasn't he going through a divorce at the time? And probably struggling with some kind of drinking problem?


>Chat freaking out over the middle eight



>He was ill for at least some of it iirc


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If you want an interesting insight into Tom's final days on the program, read Matthew Waterhouse's autobiography Blue Box Boy.

It was free on Kindle. Don't judge me.



It's a meme, but at least Adams' era was FUN.


Ich heisse Clyde Langer



Only reason I was ever interested in that book was in case he said anything about his visible hard on for Ainley. Apparently he didn't. I never read it.


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>Sosumi_Rogue: I have to check out Capaldi. I stopped watching after Matt Smith. I did not think it was possible for me to hate a doctor more than Colin Baker or Peterson's, until Matt Smith came along.

>RosealieRedd: Capaldi had some bombs… like Hellbent, but like Baker he was good enough to pull the show through.. even saddled with a mary su…

>DorynaSira: @Sosumi_Rogue Capaldi is worth watching, even if the writing under Moffat becomes more haphazard.


>Pralix: The Capaldi era suffered from crummy writing, but he was brilliant with the junk he was handed.






I spoke to my therapist about Doctor Who yesterday, and I shit you not, she said she hates the Capaldi era because of the Writing™ and prefers RTD because he focuses more on "people". She said Capaldi was wasted. Literally every single sentence I've made fun of countless times, one after the other.



She's right and you're mentally unstable



>Capaldi was wasted

There is seriously not a phrase I hate more when it comes to Doctor Who. Sure, he got some of the worst NuWho had to offer, but he also had a fair few of the absolute best.



Did you scream "t.nilso" at the top of your lungs and throw her out the window






Therapists are all normies whose only function is to make you more like them


What's the real reason people don't like Capaldi? The writing(tm) was much more consistent, the effects were better, the Doctor was a much better actor than David Tennant, the companion was…

Could it really be that people genuinely don't like le stronk womyn?



Writing was more tasteful and cleverer but not when it came to characters. I don't dislike Clara because she's a le stronk womyn, I dislike her because she's fucking boring.


The general viewing public are fucking stupid and incredibly fickle.



Tired of this point. It doesn't even stand. People at large know bad from good. Being contrarian doesn't make you posh and liking what most people don't like doesn't make you clever.



Because it focused on quiet character moments instead of loud fast-paced action.


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>People at large know bad from good.



All right, smartass, tell me why we're fucked for viewers.



The show stopped being comfort food and started being aggressive, asking weird and fractious questions about itself and its characters. There were wilfully bizarre aesthetic decisions and extreme juxtapositions. The serious tone threw even less flattering light on the usual NuWho quality blips. 12 and Clara weren't easy to sum up in one glance and their relationship was rife with conflict; neither of them were relaxing or casually ""relatable"" presences and especially not Clara. Also Capaldi is old and oogleh.

Basically people are just fucking idiots.


Tennant era = Star Wars

Capaldi era = 2001: A Space Odyssey



Clara is by far the most interesting companion of NuWho (not a high bar so let's extend it and say she's most interesting than at least half of Classic's as well).






Doctor Who has been on for 13 fucking years so it's obviously going to lose viewers, coinciding with people watching less tv generally, along with bad marketing, along with an older lead playing the Doctor (less women watching), coupled with having a strong female character and minorities (less cletuses watching), add to this the writing(tm) being more about character and less about explosions, and finally the show no longer being regular, and having fucking entire years between seasons. It's all a fucking recipe for disaster


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The ratings are dropping because they keep saying bad words like "a*se" and "b*tch" and it's scaring the kids.


Ratings are dropping because I'm smashing every fucking TV in the country with a hammer.



Don't reply with a reaction image, actually reply to him and say why he's wrong if you can



As a character, she became the most interesting experiment the show has ever had. Had the show not been cancelled in 89 we might have gotten a look at Ace doing the whole 'becoming the Doctor' business, but we didn't, and Moff got there first. It was a well explored, well thought-out arc that works better in retrospect than it did when it was airing (which can be said of everything in the Capaldi era). I'm glad it happened, although I can see why people disliked it and disliked Clara.


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>>56444 (You)





Hahahaha Clara and her magical leaf is an interesting experiment pfffft AHAHAHA


To be fair to the cletuses who think that Twelve/Clara's personalities and relationships are inconsistent… they are, if you're a casual who misses two episodes because he's watching the footy or out getting drunk. The Capaldi era is an era which requires you to pay attention, and a lot of people don't. If you skip from Mummy on the Orient Express straight to Dark Water, you might find things slightly inconsistent. Because you missed two episodes of development.


We're ostensibly not talking about S7. S7 Clara is largely recognised to be shit. She is much better basically the second she appears in S8.



Just admit that Moffat was a terrible showrunner and has left the show in an awful place. I feel bad for Chibnall who's gonna have to somehow revive it.



>been on for 13 years

>people stopped watching TV

And? If people want to watch something and have an interest in it they'll watch regardless.

>bad marketing

BBC's fault. They shouldn't be outsourcing that duty.

>older lead leading to less women watching

Wow, those 4 mums from Dagenham are crippling the figures.

>strong female characters scare cletuses

"strong female characters"


"hmm, clara is different from the usual companion archetype, 2avantgarde4me, better switch over to Love Island or X Factor"

>show is no longer regular

I agree, it's dumb

You've not convinced me in the slightest.



>BBC's fault. They shouldn't be outsourcing that duty.

They didn't outsource it for Series 9 and 10, which is the problem.


Anyone else think Enemy of the World has a bit of a rushed ending?



Fire the entire team.



>Just admit that Moffat was a terrible showrunner



Yes but it's kino up until then. Also it's pretty brutal that Scaramander just fucking dies



Portmanteau of Scaramanga and Salamander there, anon



kek oops



Clean your Tardis



>Yes but it's kino up until then. Also it's pretty brutal that Scaramander just fucking dies

He lives in the EU.



Women just want soap operas, lad. I've been trying to tell you. They're cancer to any masculine oriented show, because that's what they turn them into.



>He lives in the EU.

Everyone fucking does, don't they?


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Just finished a Skype call with Jodie. I mentioned Nilso and this is the face she made. Really brightened her day.



I find it sort of works. The main plot gets wrapped up and all that's really left is dealing with Salamander. The Doctor and friends usually abruptly fuck off at the end of a story anyway, but this time the bad guy interrupts that process and faces the due penalty.



I know, I hate it.


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I was amazed to see that after this photo was taken, Peterson picked the kid up and literally bit him in two. The jaw on this guy is insane.


>tfw this will never happen



wait what the fuck, that was a NEW comic?



>The Doctor and friends usually abruptly fuck off at the end of a story anyway

Good point although it seems the Doctor had enough time to have a wash (his face at least) throw on a plaster and his clothes. Bit different that we don't get to see what happens to the characters after the events and like you say wtih Salamander interrupting their classic getaway



>Now the Master, and here's the bloody thing about the Master, he represents chaos. He's resentful like Cain, and he wants to bring never ending war, and what kind of a world is that to live in? It's not a good world. But the Master he always loses because he doesn't live by truth. You gotta live by truth, Bucko, and admit that the RTD was shit.



Are there enough high profile trans people with acting talent to fill the roles, though?


They shouldn't have another male Doctor. It would just be a loss of a role model for young girls.



tbqh, maybe people should be given more realistic role models than magic time traveling aliens. That's an ideal, you're never going to live up to.



Why do role models need to be the same gender as you? Is society still so backwards that kids think acting like someone of the opposite gender (or another skin color, for that matter) is undesirable?




While I completely support whatever gender the Doctor is cast as, I'm not looking forward to the sense of the Doctor's gender basically becoming a political football. Because it will be. However far in the future it is, the moment another male Doctor gets cast (assuming no cancellation) is going to be a clusterfuck.



me on the far right



>nilso on the far right

oh we know, sweetie


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Y-Yeah, hahaha



>black dots on the lens are in focus and he's out of focus




Powerpuff Girls was my favourite cartoon, tbqh


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>zellemina1: @PixelWhoOfficial with the exception of Ecclestein who left for personal reasons


oy vey


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I thought he was finished with Doctor Who


tbqh, I think the 70's was the last time it was really okay for them to introduce a female Doctor. It's throwing too much of a spanner in the works of established canon at this point, and it bothers my autism. Right up until the Moffat era, male Timelords were always male, female Timelords were always female. It was pretty well established, even if it was never said out loud. It makes the universe feel less rigid. Like everything is up in the air, open to be changed at any moment. Could Timelords regenerate into animals, perhaps?


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>It's throwing too much of a spanner in the works of established canon at this point



>don't dabble into the doctor's gender stuff, just make it subtle

how could you make it any more subtle than "oh am I? oh yeah I was a scottsman half an hour ago" and moving on?



epin mene


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His Series 11 reviews will be spectacular


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mfw comedy in my doctor who


You have to ask yourself why it took him thirteen bodies to get there, if Timelords just switch genders all the time. It presents all kinds of bizarre issues, and reflects weirdly on the character.



I don't know if we'll get to see the same heights of passion. A FUCKING WOMAN seems to have sapped his enthusiasm.



>fucking jumpscare at the end



The Doctor is bad at regeneration. next


Hello, yes. Should the Doctor ever be American, or would that be a step too far?



The Doctor is bad at regenerating



That doesn't make any sense. Wouldn't there be a 50/50 chance?



It would be canonically fine but it shouldn't happen because Americans can't act.


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That just raises further questions



Wow. Bigoted.



it's okay to be racist towards americans



What about black Americans?



Doctor Who should showcase local talent. (Yes I know it sometimes gets directors from America or where the fuck ever. Shut up.) It just seems fundamentally unintuitive to go overseas to cast the Doctor and overlook actors at home, especially when Britishness is so central to the image of the show.



It's possible for something with a 50/50 chance to never occur over 100 iterations



only because of their association to america, not their skin color



Creativity is usually generated by limits.


Why would not regenerating in to a woman make the doctor "bad" at regeneration? What are you implying?



>hire american female director for the first time

>instantly better than any other director on the show

Fuck bongs. America is making all the kino these days.



I would say masculinity is central to the image of the show. He's been a man twelve times. He's a grandfather, an explorer, an adventurer, a scientist, a rebel. He's a fundamentally masculine character.



reread the question

keyword "not"


Why did Nilso keep advertising us to the boardies?



Men can have vaginas too, bigot.



You misunderstand. The Doctor being bad at regeneration is something that was already commonly agreed fact. Hence his inability to fine tune the process, like Romana II or River. Being locked to one gender for 13 bodies is just a side effect.



Fuck off judy.




But Dark Water/DiH isn't even the best-directed story of S8.



Sounds like a retcon to justify something that didn't need to happen, because they're too coward to bring back Romana and the Rani.




You can stop LARPing now.


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What's the goal of the radical whovian?



Yeah. it was a good show, once.



>an explorer, an adventurer, a scientist, a rebel

men don't have ownership of these character types


"We need new blood" - Nilso



Global demasculinisation.






Ahh. There it is. The platitudes. Yes yes, women can do everything, and not only that they do it better than men. They just choose not to 99% of the time.



No, seriously. You can stop LARPing.



Let's not be stingy - men don't have ownership of grandparenting either.

Britishness is more important to Doctor Who than enforced maleness. The former permeates every last facet of the show's aesthetics. The latter is more like a hangover.



The goal of the current "radical right" is survival, and not having to live in places comparable to Detroit or South Africa.



lol. Next you'll tell me it's the patriarchy.


The goal of the current Dalek Empire is survival, and not having to live in places comparable to the Thal jungle.


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This is silly. Stop being silly.



>this thing I arbitrarily value is more important than this thing you arbitrarily value, because I say so


When is Neo going to come back and occupy the slot of obnoxious larper again





There are no rules on what a Doctor can be. I say he should be a wisecracking German dog, who shoots first and asks questions later.



What arcane conspiracy are these arrows and red circles supposed to signify?


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I'm a sad bear



Let's all love Lain!





YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Doctor Who: When Worlds Collide - Doctor Who and Politics (DVD Documentary)


kiwi doctor?



It’s fast paced because Salamander is out of his depth. He’s stepped out of his genre into the TARDIS and he can’t cope so he is immediately removed.






Doctor Who should only be British like Superman should only be American. Look at how shit that turned out and you'll understand why the reverse is also true.



superman doesnt regenerate though



Supergirl was a pretty shit film too.



this is terrible



We go through a lot of them though.



they're all based off the same character though, the doctor drastically changes



At his core though, Doctor Who represents(to paraphrase someone who should have been the master) the victory of intellect and compassion over brute force and cynnicism. Likewise Superman represents the ideal of an immigrant who comes and brings his talents, adopts into the culture and advances society towards something greater as a whole by doing his best and inspiring those around him. Or at least, he usually does. Then Cavill took over.



>blaming the problems of modern Superman on Henry Caville and not Zach Snyder and DC's insistence on making everything excessively dark and dreary.



just you wait until neo gets home



Is daddy gonna take off his belt?



>not understanding that the biggest problems with Calvillman is his actor's fundamental understanding of what makes Superman tick. His favorite superman story is Superman: For Tomorrow, a fundamentally flawed story made of 2 incompatible arcs jammed together like 2 magnets of the same polarity featuring an angsty superman who is directly responsible for a catastrophic fuck up and murders zod.

You cannot make this shit up.



>actors write and direct films



only for gig



>actors don't interpret material



I don't see how Caville's interperetation of the material is the problem with those films, unless he had input on the script, direction, and colour grading.



I don't see how the color grading is a worse problem than playing Superman as a mute introvert who flies around frowning and screaming incoherently like an idiot during fights while the scripts say he's representing "hope". Hows about portraying the most powerful man in the galaxy with some class and dignity instead of grunting like a goddamned gorilla, then we fix the color grading? Thus far Justice League got him a little more right, but thats basically because he was just playing a worse christopher reeve imitation than brandon routh.



>Thus far Justice League got him a little more right

Might have something to do with the change in directors


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>christopher reeve is the correct way to portray superman!


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Is that fucking Tony Iommi in the first panel?!



Might have something to do with using him for a mighty 10 minutes out of a 2 hour film. And 2 of those minutes were as a corpse.



No, dean cain or tom welling also portrayed successful supermen. Hell, I'll even take Adam Baldwin as Superman. But not Calvill.



I don't know why you're opposed to the idea that those films are the way they are largely because Zack Snyder wanted them that way. His entire vision for the DC universe was clearly misery guts nonsense.


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>comic book movies need to be bright and fun!



It's a good starting point for Superman, yeah.



Oh no, I dislike the dceu as a whole, don't misunderstand me. I'm just saying Cavill is equally to blame(or perhaps more so? But not by much. Like a 51 vs. 49% thing) and its partially because he's trying to portray a complex vision of the American dream (reconciling American values with those of his homeworld so as to find his place in society and contribute in a meaningful way) while being fundamentally disconnected from it and trying to use a flawed representation of that to move forward.


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One episode do not maketh an entire series.


I heard earlier from Neo that in 2.5.1 he will/has hide a hidden story that begins on the 6th paragraph/line thing of page 737.



there is nothing noteworthily out of the ordinary on page 737




Has Neo rused us?


Has the Doctor ever gotten sick?

Also is the d key is too close to the s key on the keyboard.



I'm almost positive he got sick at least once.



That's what I thought too but I can't actually place my finger on any specific time



Regeneration trauma is often treated like a sickness. If you're picturing the Doctor in a bed being cared for, that's what you're remembering.



Well do you count radiation sickness?




Eeeh, as much as I'd count, say, a burn. Not really the same thing.


That's probably what I'm thinking of.


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>Dude I know is going to Rose City Comic Con to see Tennant

>Orders photo ops and autographs for the express purpose of fucking with me

>"I'm getting two signatures. One for myself, and one for this other person you're friends with."

Nobody has ever fucked with me this hard or this harshly, and I've had my fair share of dick. Fuck this gay earth.


Guys. Turn on the news! Poor Neo :(


nilsos cishet


Nilso shillso



if it's any consolation meeting celebrities is so unbelievably overrated and a lot of people who are huge fans of specific people end up regretting it because of how awkward it is


Why do hets rub their sexuality in everyone's face? I fucking hate it.


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I like nilso

haha nilso

good times


An Unearthly Nilso

The Nilso

The Edge of Nilso

Marco Nilso

The Nilso of Marinus

The Nilsos

The Nilsos

The Reign of Nilso

Planet of Nilsos

The Nilso Invasion of Earth

The Nilso

The Nilsos

The Web Nilso

The Nilso

The Nilso Museum

The Nilso

The Nilso Meddler

Nilso 4

Mission to the Nilso

The Nilso Makers

The Nilsos Master Plan

The Massacre of St. Nilsos Eve

The Nilso

The Celestial Nilso

The Nilsofighters

The Nilsos

The War Nilsos

The Nilsos

The Tenth Nilso

The Nilso of the Daleks

The Highnilso

The Underwater Nilso

The Nilsobase

The Nilso Terror

The Faceless Nilsos

The Evil of the Nilsos

The Nilso of the Cybermen

The Abominable Nilso

The Nilso Warriors

The Enemy of the Nilso

The Web of Nilso

Nilso from the deep

The Nilso in Space

The Nilsos

The Nilso Robber

The Nilsvasion

The Nilsos

The Sneeds of Nilso

The Space Nilsos

The Nilso Games

Nilso from Space

Nilso Who and the Silurians

The Ambassadors of Nilso


Nilso of the Autons

The Mind of Nilso

The Claws of Nilso

Nilso in Space

The Nïlsos

Day of the Nilsos

The Curse of Nilso

The Sea Nilsos

The Nilsos

The Time Nilso

The Three Nilsos

Carnival of Nilsos

Frontier in Nilso

Planet of the Nilsos

The Green Nilso

The Nilso Warrior

Invasion of the Nilsosaurs

Death to the Nilso

The Nilso of Peladon

Nilso of the Spiders


The Ark in Nilso

The Nilso Experiment

Genesis of the Nilsos

Revenge of the Nilsos

Terror of the Nilso

Planet of Nilso

Nilso of Mars

The Nilso Invasion

The Brain of Nilso

The Nilso of Doom

The Nilso of Mandragora

The Hand of Nilso

The Deadly Nilso

The Face of Nilso

The Nilsos of Death

The Talons of Weng-Nilso

Horror of Nilso Rock

The Invisible Nilso

Image of the Nilso

The Nilso Makers


The Nilso of Time

The Nilso Operation

The Pirate Nilso

The Stones of Nilso

The Androids of Nilso

The Power of Nilso

The Nilso Factor

Destiny of the Nilso

City of Nilso

The Nilso from the Pit

Nightmare of Nilso

The Horns of Nilso


The Nilso Hive


Full Nilso

State of Nilso

Nilsos Gate

The Nilso of Traken



Nilso to Doomsday


The Nilso

Black Nilso



Nilso of Infinity


Nilso Undead



The King's Nilso

The Five Nilsos

Nilso of the Deep

The Nilswakening


Resurrection of the Nilsos

Nilso of Fire

The Caves of Nilso

The Nilso Dilemma

Attack of the Nilsos

Nilso on Varos

The Mark of the Nilso

The Two Nilsos


Revelation of the Nilsos

The Mysterious Nilso


Nilso of the Vervoids

The Ultimate Nilso

Nilso and the Rani

Nilso Towers

Nilso and the Bannermen


Remembrance of the Nilsos

The Nilso Patrol

Silver Nilso

The Greatest Nilshow in the Galaxy


Ghost Nilso

The Curse of Nilso




>The Greatest Nilshow in the Galaxy

there's a shit trip with this name in 2.5





sloaths a hetfag



baseless accusations



I've seen your minecraft server. Least gay thing ever seen





hows life, gig?



Pretty gay desu




for you



I wish :^(


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>forgot to tap-on the opal card

>mfw hoping no ticket inspectors show up

they didn't, but fuck that was scary



Idea for shit trips 3 right there



I lost my uni ID once and got fucking carded on the way to get my replacement, lucky enough the guy was based enough to understand after I showed him an email from the uni but I was still shitting it because you get a fine if you use a concession card without proof you're a student



I haven't been a full time student for almost 3 years now so I've had to pay adult prices all this time


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>tfw you remember the free trips are gone forever

it's not fucking fair


>paying for a ticket on public transport

What actual plebs



nsw transport officers are the Schutzstaffel of australia


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the ice empress's design is a victim of lazy "create a female version of [thing] by introducing sexualised human female characteristics" design. That's why she has visible skin, hair and a more curvy shaped body


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more visible skin* I mean



The male ice warrior in Cold War got naked though. Thats pretty sexy


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nilso no! bad nilso!



>10 years ago

Well, his wish probably came true eventually, which is more than can be said about you.


Reminder that Liam Catterson jizzed on a newspaper and uploaded it to Youtube



do we know for sure it was jizz? it could have been spit



We need to analyze the metadata



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I expect you've tried to contact Neo by now. Well, you should know, I can't find him either. No one can.



hell bent sesska in 24 hours



tfw three week long wait until husbands


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>tfw everyone wants neo back but I'm just waiting for cathartic to return


>tfw everyone wants neo back but I'm just waiting for plogical to return


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>12: Neo

>Missy: Ingiga

>Clara: Cats12



why would gig trap cats in a dalek to trick neo?



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being a child is idolising the doctor

growing up is realising the daleks make more sense


Do Zygons have a vore fetish?




>tfw everyone wants neo back but I'm just waiting for nacho to return

No wait…


>tfw everyone wants neo back but I'm just waiting for grandfather to return


Are the UNIT audios worth listening too? I want to listen to Master of Worlds but I'm not sure if I should listen to the rest or not


>tfw everyone wants neo back but I'm just waiting for /dwg/ to return



>tfw everyone wants neo back but I'm just waiting for Dr Who's Grand-daughter to return


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Sesska dates a MAGA military chud


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Be hones. How many here have vagene?



I can't for the life of me remember where this face is from but I recognize it



>Half an inch of chin and neck

Yeah, yeah. Absolutely haram.


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It's Andrew Dobson



I know a guy who looks like him which was throwing me off



showing skin is a staple of typical female clothing



Okay. Is that a problem?



it's lazy design more than anything

an argument could be made that it feeds into the stereotype that female monster designs have to maintain sexualized human female characteristics while male monster designs can be anything



>male armour deliberately covers up the neck

>female armour leaves a huge gap as if to say PLEASE STAB ME HERE

>even worse when you consider the proportions of the Ice Warriors established in Cold War (they're really small so that "half an inch" is at least 10% of their body area

Defend this


>tfw everyone wants neo back but I'm just waiting for good doctor who to return



You'll be waiting a long time.



The Ice Warriors to begin with are a pretty uninventive design. Urg! Big scary monster with crocodile scales! It's not a problem. Sometimes tried and true is the way to go. You don't always have to reinvent the wheel.



That's nice, even if he's being a bit non-committal.



Fuck off the legomen are great.



She's the leader right? Probably spends less time on the front lines, can afford more decorative, less functional armour. Hence long hair and cape.

It also just looks cool. Rule of cool is enough sometimes.



But you can hardly say they're the most creatively designed monsters. They were whipped together over a weekend on a 60's TV budget, because they needed something scary to chase the Doctor down corridors.


Journey's End aired 10 years ago today.



should we watch stolen earth and journy's end in honour of that?



too tired desu



you should though, but I'll sleep instead



yes +1








aight, its in the stream


Reminder that Doctor Who doesn't have enough sexy female aliens.


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Open your hearts to it. You know it's good.



And That's A Good Thing



*puts on burka


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>The virgin 2010s

<the chad 70's



>straight men can only imagine women's bodies as either paraded for male titillation or wrapped up for male possessiveness

This is why we need fiction and worlds imagined by women and queer people.


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>we need everything to be boring and lame, because men might have fun otherwise



>woah…. classic who looks like THAT?!?!?!


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I don't complain about all of those gross erotica novels that cat ladies are into. All I ask is I get to have the same thing.


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>if women aren't presented as objects for men's sexual gratification, it's boring and lame



I mean, it's more boring.



Also, Monogatari has some quality fanservice. Good choice.



why is your grading scale for fun/boring dependent on the sexualisation of women?



I'm a warm blooded sexual being, and not a fax machine.



sexual beings know that there's a time, place and medium for that and it's not in regular fiction



>omigod Benedict Cumberbatch is so cute

<what the fuck. that woman is more attractive than me, and dressed like me on an average summer day. This is an outrage!

Women, tbqhfam…


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>the companions with the biggest tits and wore thr most revealing clothing were made under queer showrunners.

What did he mean by this?



Funny thing. Even gay men and most straight women have an appreciation for female beauty.

It's just fat women who complain really…


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What if Marilyn Manson was cast as the next Master?



I hear he's a very nice man in person.



Can't be any worse than the current state of his career



If you limited your fapping/fantasy to say Ace/Nazi bondage from the VNA's that would be the same thing. Illustrating it or putting it on view is a little bit different famalamadingdong.


Every gay man I've ever met has had a fascination with female chesticles that rival my own, albeit surely for different reasons.


>It's just fat women who complain really

It's the women who can't get laid moreover. Being fat probably hasn't much to do with the not getting laid. It's their personalities that are off putting.


I'd have extremely mixed feelings. I wouldn't mind seeing him as a one off villain. Though, I could see him in a disguise as the master now that I think of it. Like that time he went to TRL without his make up on, as brian warner.


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He's literally perfect to be the Master.



Extremely nice to fans but if you're a roadie at one of his concerts and you fuck something up he will flip his shit


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admit it, he'd be kino as the Master



>Illustrating it or putting it on view is a little bit different

Actually no. It's a difference in gender psychology. Men are more enticed by visual stimulation, whereas women like narrative.



Hence why most erotica is written by women.



His last two albums were fucking amazing and his recent concerts have been pretty good from what I've seen on YouTube



He plays a pretty master-esque character in The Golden Child. Great movie. Easily adapted to DW i'd imagine.


Well, I mean generalization that I'd look to avoid.




It's pretty well understood. There's a reason there's not such a market for porn aimed at women, but a huge market for erotica.



Dance would be a very classic Master, like a mix between Delagado and Jacobi maybe



Well, maybe those types of people would be a little nicer if they were off pudding

Ill see myself out.



There is a market for porn aimed at women. It's just all mostly awful, soft focus, candle lit, rtd-esque cinematography. They have entire sections at actual brick and mortar porn shops. I wouldn't generalize because i know #notallwomen are into the fabio covered 5 and dime novels. Some women enjoy hardcore gonzo production just as much as the next guy if not more so.



I'm a fan of a good pun however tasteless. They were once the highest form of humour.


Women will like what I tell them to like


Whenever I'm feeling happy I imagine what Ten could have been like if Tennant had been allowed to play him with a Scottish accent and I drink myself into a stupor



Sure, there's an exception to every rule, but that doesn't mean their aren't patterns and tendencies.


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That's a nice cover



I thought this was the Eleventh Doctor Adventures for a second. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.


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Nice callback to the Smith DVDs.



Oh, those were the days!


Sure, but why generalize when surely those exceptions are probably "physically" present. Also, tbf I think part of that pattern of skew has to do with the acceptability of the given options. It's less socially acceptable for a girl to enjoy hardcore pornography as opposed to a "romance novel".



>2. The Top of the Tree by Simon Guerrier

>On one of their annual jaunts, young Kazran Sardick and the Doctor find themselves in trouble when the TARDIS is tangled in the branches of a very strange, very large tree.

>They emerge into a habitat where myriad species fight for survival: an ecosystem of deadly flora and fauna, along with a tribe of primitive humans.

>This is a mystery which can only be solved by climbing. But what will they find at the top of the tree?

Actually sounds cool desu



But then you have to ask how things become socially acceptable or not. Basically comes down to how many people are inclined to do that thing.



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>narrated by

Hang on…



That is absolutely not the reason things become socially acceptable. For instance it's socially acceptable in islamic countries for women to wear burkas and be stoned to death for showing a little knee. It's not because they're inclined to do either. It's a norm that's put upon them.



I like how you "forget" to mention that Cats did exactly the same thing for the last one.



You seem to be under the impression that I actually visited there the first time. I didn't even know. You seem paranoid.



Well, most of the men agree it's acceptable. Men in these places assert their authority to call the shots. The West hasn't been like that in a long time.



The west has still a long way to go. Women in the west are shamed all the time because of their sexual proclivities. Porn viewership being one of the bigger ones.



Mostly by other women at this point. It's deeply taboo for a man to openly criticise a woman in public.



>It's deeply taboo for a man to openly criticise a woman in public.

Maybe on college campuses or where mass media has a toe hold, but everywhere else it's still pretty fair game here. I will concede that women are often awful to each other, however.



You mean the highest form of Whoumor?



Aha you SOB!


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They must live very difficult lives.



They're not wrong.



>Rasputin's Testicular Discharge

That's impressive


Is Rasputin the worst r word they could think of?



>Paul Cornell

>Steven Moffat

>Whovian Feminism

>Rachel Talalay

>Jodie Whittaker

>Chris Chibnall

>Russell T Davies

One of these things is not like the others.


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Paul Cornell is the only one with balls



>Paul "A Toast In Soy Milk" Cornell

>not a prime case of testicular atrophy who was cucked out of Doctor Who like 5 times in a fucking row


Imagine being too lazy to make a new thread before the bump limit.

I can imagine it, because I am.


come stream stories with me


Doctor Who and the Nilsos


guys check ABR

poor Nilso


There is something strangely both satisfying and melancholy about watching the catalog of a board that you've seen languish in deadness for 4 years slowly filling up to capacity with 700+-post generals.



Bit sad to see the old threads falling off the board. They're like museum pieces at this point.



Are these people who read the wiki and now are emboldened to try and out edge us?


>implying doctor who wasnt changing with the times in the edas, Briggs Finish and comics where 8 had lesbian companions




Thankfully it's all being saved. Here's the first general thread we ever had: https://8ch.net/doctorwho/res/4.html



>made this thread in 2015



Try that again. Can never remember how to cross thread link.



And this one



>autoplaying gifs

Oh. I miss that 8chan.


Remember when "day /who/ and night /who/" were things people actually talked about and believed to be relevant?

These days it's all just blurred together.


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history repeats itself


Series 11 hype train when?



>the days when we actually though all of 4chan would move to 8chan and leave that site to die

Wishful thinking.



Surprised we haven't started one yet desu



Must be Christmas.



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Considering Scarlett Johansson also barely fucking resembles the actual trans man she's supposed to be portraying, I'd say it's just retarded casting by some braindead Hollywood exec whose two anorexic neurons stop functioning the moment they register the word "transgender."

For reference, this is how the actual man Scarjo's supposed to be portraying looked. Notice how even though he was biologically female, he looked like a butch lesbian at his most feminine, and certainly not an overrated, blond bimbo actress who played one of the shittiest Avengers in the MCU and bears no fucking resemblance to him physically in any way.

I don't think Hollywood can find enough high profile trans people with acting talent to fill all roles, but it doesn't seem like they're doing a good job at finding high profile cis people with acting talent either, so regardless of how political someone not involved with the transgender community directly or indirectly wants to get, or from what side, it seems pretty obvious that Hollywood is completely fucking moronic.

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