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Kaagh edition

last thread- >>59051


I push my shit and EAT IT

I make my piss and FREE IT

I shid and cummed and FARDED

Why is my peepee HARDENED



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Imagine their reaction if they actually saw a movie made by a woman or POC.



What's the betting that user with a ye icon is a white male below 21 years of age



If the strong female characters aren't in Star Wars or the MCU they don't matter.



But the MCU is so progressive for having its eighteenth film directed by a POC.





Are we playing undermine people's happiness about the implications of women and POC being represented in huge-budgeted, beloved mainstream culture stalwarts, by insisting it's completely invalid if any element of white male supremacy whatsoever still persists in the product at large? I love that game because you can play it literally forever!


I thought this might be a fun topic for discussion and it's something I've been thinking about. I'm a firm believer that we all have different personalities inside of us just like the Doctor that can be brought out over time and our lives. So thinking that, which Doctors do you think represent you at your personal best and which ones do you think represent you at your personal worst? For example:

BEST: 11. I have a very Elevenish personality when I'm in a good mood. An old soul in a young body, energetic, lively, and jovial with a childish and silly spirit. Very tender and compassionate with most people and accepting of their faults with a focus on hope. Quite odd and little hard to take seriously but a lot of fun to be around. However get on the wrong side of him and he can be very serious, confidant in his own abilities, and sometimes explosive.

WORST: 7. In my bad moods, I feel like a Seven. Cold, melancholy, somber, and extremely manipulative. Always looking for a way to turn things around in his favor regardless of what it means to the people around him and even sometimes his own morals. Focus on the big picture rather than the little details and very dangerous when pushed. Not totally unfeeling and does have good intentions at heart remembering that the ends don't justify the means as the means used determine the kind of end produced.

Granted these two are my favorite Doctors both of whom can be extremely manipulative so I'm not 100% sure what that says about me. :-P I also see them as opposites of the same coin more so than a lot of the other Doctors as their personalities seem very similar but just in opposite extremes with one side appearing more for one than the other.

Hopefully that makes sense. Would love to hear others and discuss!





Moffags like it when the show panders to brexit voting cletuses



What were the thread comments?



I love you.



moff casually revealing his utter contempt for conservatives while trying to appease them is one of his most based moments


Has anyone read the Stranger?



Like an Asian movie? There's a lot of good ones.


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This one?



I have two personalities. Nicest person you'll ever meet, and twisted fucking psychopath.



No but I watched them a few years ago.


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If the highlight of your day is getting to watch one of Disney's soulless products, now in brown, you should maybe rethink your life.

At least watch a good black movie.


Doctor Who has failed to put out a single episode better than the first episode of an unearthly child in the over fifty years since that episode aired



Paradise Towers.



Love and Monsters



Which episode of Paradise Towers?


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>claim to want diversity in entertainment

>watch exclusively American and British produced media, and ignore the budding African film industry

Who's a racist now?




What are some other opinions that sound extremely intelligent but secretly have no substance whatsoever?



It's all kino.


tbqh, I don't mind black people or women in film, I just hate when the left uses them as a vehicle to push their hateful politics on me.



Capaldi was wasted during his run by Moffat. The writing was terrible but Capaldi himself was good



Ok then, how do you tell when a film/tv show puts in a black guy or a woman into their film/tv because "those darn ebil leftists told them too" and when they put them in because they felt like they would fit the role?



It's pretty clear when there is or when there isn't an underlying message of "fuck the white man".



Can you give a few examples of media that has POC and women leads that doesn’t have cultural Marxism?



It's clear if you're paranoid, I'd like some examples of " underlying message of "fuck the white man"."



>an underlying message of "fuck the white man"

You speak as if that's a bad thing.



I just posted two.

A few of my favourites would include Alien and Terminator, good South Korean films like Oldboy, Demolition Man, Men in Black, and Killer7.



>Doctor arrives in Victorian London

>makes a point of how diverse it is (this is a lie), calls history a whitewash (also a lie)

>punches a white racist

No. No political agenda here.



you must be so fragile


Drctrod Ohio



I want my people to live, control their own countries, and not be made subjects of invading forces, if that's fragility.

I see it as sanity.



Doctor Who may not be the show for you.



OK, Adolf



No, not these days. It was pretty good in the 60's though.


It hurt my feelings when they said Jesus wasn’t white



Opinions on Galaxy 4?



Most caricatured man in history. People evoke Hitler the way they used to evoke Satan. When you bring that up, you're the medieval peasant accusing people of devil worship.



>Galaxy 4

I didn't watch that one because most of it was missing.


Reminder that Evil of the Daleks


The 3 hour missing episode will turn out to be Enemy of the World


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Middle easterners can be pretty light skinned.



for me it's eight - Intelligent, Nihilistic and with a Wicked Sense of Humor


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Just finished season 1 of broadchurch

the only thing I had been spoiled on was that the killer turns themselves in

am I wrong for being satisfied with who did it? It was left field and you couldn't have solved it yourself which I get some people could be upset about, but from a character drama perspective it was kind of the perfect choice of person


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yeah if you watch it as a drama rather than a mystery then the reveal is pretty satisfactory. series 2 is going to make you furiously frustrated though. .



Yes, people just want to nitpick to validate their opinions on Chibnall.



Who is the Reddit Doctor from new who?






still eight



>season 2 is going to make you

stopped reading there, I want to go in blind tyvm



I was fine with who did it but them turning themself in after a whole season building up clues for finding the killer felt lazy.






no worries, enjoy it.


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oh shit nilsos mixtape just dropped



Just to clarify this is the 10" figure, not the 5" one



>including jodie's natural hair color growing through

yikes I assumed they were just going to pretend that didn't exist so they don't have to explain why the doctor regenerated with dyed hair that's growing out



Remember when the First Doctor regenerated into an entirely different outfit?



What makes 8 the Reddit Doctor? He's a good Doctor, and McGann is one of the better actors to play the character.

If anything, Tom Baker or Jon Pertwee would be the Reddit Doctors. Maybe Colin Baker for maximum irony.



Why does he always regenerate with neatly trimmed hair?



8's the reddit Doctor because, specifically referring to /r/gallifrey, they're obsessed with the expanded universe (Briggs Finish in particular) and one-upping each other in terms of obscure knowledge and their odd fixation on canon arguments.



hair growth is natural, dye isnt tho



Reddit think they're cool by saying 8 is their favourite and making it clear they have listened to an unhealthy amount of Briggs Finish.



I think the idea is those were his clothes but baggier. I don't think Troughton is actually that much smaller though.



Not really, since his cravat turned into a bow tie.


When's SDCC?



Haircuts aren't natural.


But he is one of the better Doctors, and his work with Briggs Finish can be very high quality. There's an element of wanting to feel special for liking the most obscure (official) Doctor, but he's also just a very good Doctor.



Maybe he tied it differently when he was lying on the floor.



And added polka dots to it for some reason?



Sorry, I don't listen to speaking books.


People on /who/ just want to feel special by saying their favourite doctor and era is the completely unlikable Capaldi Doctor


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>But he is one of the better Doctors

>his work with Briggs Finish can be very high quality.



He's a good Doctor (like all the others), but there's no denying that he's the poster child for redditors






it's completely conceivable that when you regenerate, the length to which the new hair follicles grow is a variable



Next Thursday


7 is the Redditest Doctor



Tipex in the pocket



Not an argument. Also, Reddit's not that bad sometimes. At least not everyone there is a perma negative nancy, or teenage edgelord. You can actually have a conversation every once in a while without maneuvering around people desperate to prove they're the ones who hate everything the most.



nerge material



Especially if the Doctor "chooses" his face.



>You can actually have a conversation every once in a while without maneuvering around people desperate to prove they're the ones who hate everything the most.

all this proves is that they actually enjoy doctor who, and therefore aren't true fans


This RTchaD falseflagging as an 8 loving redditor to get /who/ to stop shitting on RTD is pretty based



t. cats, falseflagging as an RTDfag happy at someone falseflagging as an 8 loving redditor to get /who/ to stop shitting on RTD, to get /who/ to hate RTD more


Fuck RTD, fuck Reddit and fuck white people



tbqh, I just defend Reddit at this point, because that's the last taboo, and I'm the biggest imageboard edgelord. Edgelord supreme.


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It's not an urban Earth story. Wahey.


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>did you know that like, in the audios the doctor KILLS people?!?! did you know that he like DIES a couple of times. oh yeah and he had OTHER companions that were BETTER than the TV ones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



t. discordie




Cringe word.






But based Nardole said it



That's true though. TV companions are terribly uninventive.

WW1 nurse > another average girl from modern day Britain



Stop saying "tbqh" in nearly every post you make.



I'm too Boomer to understand discord. It's like Skype, right?



no, tbqh



i didnt say it wasnt true, audiofags are just so much more autistic about it than even 10fags or rose fans


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If it's true, why are we complaining about people saying it? What is this mad house?


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It's like Skype for gentleman gamers.


I hate every part of doctor who equally. I don’t favor audiobooks or the tv show or the comics they are all shit to me.


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He's back



So you're a fan video production man?


nilso joncker



if you continue using homophobic slurs I will report you to the NSW police for hate speech



if i had a bird that called me a faggot retard every 30 seconds for liking doctor who that'd get annoying too, despite it being true.



ill escape to jarvis bay


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I'm tearing through all of your taboos and social norms, and denying you your sense of intellectual superiority, and you can't stop me.


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kinda loves this


Yes I do watch a show for redditors and tumblr fujos but I’m actually better than them



do you mean jervis bay?



you're a 4chan fudan


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kinda loves THIS



yeah that one





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I went to schoolies there and I get the name mixed up too, kek

it would help if half the population didn't pronounce it 'jarvis', I've go no clue which pronunciation is meant to be correct



Unironically true on some level. Nerd subcultures are the last refuge of people who have been denied any other place in the world. Those people are the lowest of the low. imagine seriously being a "Whovian", lol.


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>Unironically true on some level.


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What the fuck?



>rule the world

>most oppressed

Wew. Imagine believing this.


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Based moments?



put your flag back on


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>that 30 year old boomer who discovered /doctorwho/ from the front page of 8chan because he was looking for child porn, and has no knowledge of the community so just posts random unrelated images and uses "tbqh" in every post as well as tries to push cletus and redditor propaganda



I love you.


Gamers deserve to be mildly inconvenienced in ways they will cry about for months



literally me, tbqh



nilso sounds like a gamer



I don't care about that boomer, I will continue to use "tbqh desu" at the end of posts like I always have since the desu wordfilter started on 4chan tbqh desu


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>that 30 year old boomer who got miscast on a children's tv show for retards and socially awkward political extremists



I'm not convinced, the face looks too much like a round fat man with a neckbeard and glasses rather than adam orford's pudgy, glasses-less shaven face



The only boomer I’d kiss


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>when you're invading their Zoomer hugbox and they can't handle it


This pretzel is rock solid.



Are you coming onto me, Nilso?


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No, I don't think all of your opinions are correct, and your passive aggression doesn't win you the argument either, kiddos. You're in my pool now.



For Nilso: an unironically good way to get yourself off the verge is to tickle the roof of your mouth with your tongue


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>that 50 year old boomer socialist that almost killed a 50 year old show by dragging the ratings through the mud by being the antithesis (mean, angry, old, rude and unfun) to the core of the character (young, happy, funny, kind, not ugly).



Are you referring to Gatiss?



I think him not having a catchphrase killed it. What's the point in watching if you can't even anticipate him to say the same funny word every once in a while?



Was his catchphrase being Scottish?


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>it's "some random anon thinks he can take over /who/ but will almost certainly disappear by the end of the week" time again


nilsos gay



he was scottish?



I'll probably get bored and revert to one of my other personas, tbqh.



It's probably time to keep the jocks as far away from Who as possible. Capaldi/Moffat/Gomez, or as I call them - the trio from hell, almost completely destroyed the show. Keep Doctor Who English please.



You do realise you can repost images? This mirroring lark is getting old



he has to prepare for when we're back on 4chan



English and black, as god intended


>doesn't know what a question mark looks like


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>that 30 year old boomer who doesn't realise he can repost images



He's not from 4chan in the first place, he's an 8chan native.



What, when you're crying? Does that actually stop or at least hinder?



I was on 4chan before you were, kiddo.


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>that 30 year old gang weeder who is getting ready to rise up



If you're on the verge of tears it's a good distraction that keeps you from crying/sobbing without being externally visible.


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FACT: doctor who was more popular during the RTD era and the people would prefer a return to that style of programming



the soy people


I’ve wasted so much of my life on 4chan. Please be impressed



FACT: mob rule always gets the best results.



At least we're cooler than Reddit.


we should ban all scottish people from /who/, brexit means brexit


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Britain for the English



This, but unironically. I want Ireland and France too.


>we are human point two

What did he mean by this?



>that 50 year old boomer who doesnt even have a basic understanding of technology yet writes for the oldest ongoing scifi series of all time


Peter Davison was the first Boomer doctor but sadly not the last


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When you get down to it, you can't deny how much nicer the world would be if we just cleared out everyone who isn't English. It would be so polite.



Ah yes, the fabled hard Brexit….


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Dice rollRolled 9 (1d10)

on a scale of 1-10 how gay is nilso



It's more of a Brentrance.


>140 posts in the past hour

fuck this


Dice rollRolled 4 (1d10)

Gaming time!


Tomorrow's schedule has been revised, previously it went on until 4AM but now it's back to 1:30AM


I mean, let's be honest. No one actually likes the Spanish. Awful people.



Don’t read them all too fast or you’ll have to wait out the dead hours



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>Sometimes the Doctor must look at this planet and turn away in shame.



I know! They're terrible.





waste of a get



Waste of a country, tbqh.



>caring about gets on a board with ~30 posters


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When in doubt, it's tbqhposter



It's around 50-70 apparently



tbqh fam



Over a longer period of time maybe, but last time I asked Cloi what the IP counts for the last couple generals were, I recall his answers being in the 30s.



Surprised. Would have thought it was 5. there's always those weirdos who just watch and don't post like voyeuristic goblins. Don't know what their problem is. They make me uncomfortable.


I miss there being more than one boardie



That’s how I feel about the janny that isn’t Nilso



Disney Princess Who



It's like having someone living in your attic watching you through little holes, isn't it?



>implying the other janny isn't a very frequent poster


Crazy Taxi's a really good game. I'm not going to lie.


question: if i wrote gay porn about that pair from arc of infinity that are in amsterdam would it be viable for shit trips 3?



You know it would be and you just want to advertise it.


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this pair?



No. But I might



No, I'm seriously wondering if it might be a bit too tangential



>table is plugged into the power socket


got the DVDs, didn't know they made a book.


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do you mean the erotica novel about the eighth doctor?



>10's hair gel is natural

I suppose 3's tattoo was natural as well?

>inb4 it's a question mark, meaning renegade.




oldie but a goodie


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"Spare us five quid. I used to be in Doctor Who, you know?"



I remember a certain someone reading this



yeah i've read it, what do you want to know?



is this a shoot for Paddington 3 or something?



no, it's a movie about david copperfield



It's pretty much canon at this point that the bodies are just pulled from somewhere in time and space, and not grown from scratch. There was someone out there who looked exactly like Jon Pertwee, with his tattoo, and the Doctor took that form.



Would you recommend I read it?




Where did you get this leak of the 14th Doctor's regeneration?



Do you think the Doctor and Maxil both copied the same man or Maxil copied someone and the Doctor copied Maxil?





god i wish that were me


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god, no. it's awful. it's good for a bit of a laugh, at least, but the funniest part of it is the concept, not so much the reality. unfortunately, lance parkin referenced it in two of his books (father time and the gallifrey chronicles) so not only do we know that he read doctor who erotica, but also that he thought it good enough to make it canon, inasmuch as anything can be in this series. i'd say, don't waste your time on it, because it's only tangentially related to doctor who (mostly via little nudge-nudge, wink-wink references to eighth doctor things), unless you really get your rocks off on middle-aged women taking advantage of amnesiac paul mcgann




I'd say it's moreso that choosing the face is optional, and that random regeneration is still perfectly possible


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why do this







17 this thread, 42 the last. Most ips ever was 81iirc.


Can someone redpill me on why it's impossible for the universe to have a centre? We can't actually observe enough of the universe to know how it's shaped, right? Is it because it's continually expanding?



Dr Who's cock was the centre but it's only went and fell off.



I don't think it's impossible, it's just that we just don't know, and we never will. We're a speck of dust in the grand scheme of things, we can only see so far and know so much. Even if the universe wasn't always growing (which, as far as we're aware, it is), there's still limits to our understanding.


>doesnt want to fire directly at him in case she hits the Doctor

>trickshots the laser off of a fucking mirror and gets the bad guy right in the head with 100% accuracy

What was she even worried about


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this made McGanon leave


Terminus actually has a bunch of interesting Warriors' Gate-like ideas, it's just tremendously dull to look at and probably suffered from a coat of Sawardian rewriting.



>ignoring the obvious fact that McGanon is in this very thread and has posted at least once in that comment thread



No trip = larp



Judy, why do you make your presence so ridiculously obvious



So he could read it?


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>hands in pockets




Fucking GOAT. I'm so happy they're finally releasing stuff.



she aged a little



It doesn't help that you only ever use the same three pictures over and over again.


The end of Enlightenment:

TEGAN: Let's get away from here.

DOCTOR: Anywhere in particular?

TURLOUGH: Yes. My planet. My home.

DOCTOR: Why not?

Any idea why this is in the episode when they didn't do this or mention it again?



It's called different lighting/makeup.


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What's the bet this person hates Hell Bent?



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>brilliant is her catchphrase


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>“I’ll try to get the Doctor an ‘Ace!’ in there somewhere.”

If you don't think that's based, I don't want to know you.


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Better version



>regenerating already

ahahaah bye bye woman



Yas's hair looks a mess.


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Ace of base(d)?



I mean, it's no "fantastic!" but…


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im trying to be calm about this, where the hell can i find these where did you get these


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Of course it is, dear.



They're on the video in this article >>60070



Yas and the Doc are gonna fuck, right?



>delicious muted washed out palette for historical episode

God yes. "Muh color" fags BTFO.

Also god Jodie is pretty.



She's not female David Tennant! She's not!


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No Jodie, no interest.


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Anyone else hyped for Bradley?



Yes. Based Bradders will make Doctor Who great again.



Yeah, 1DA volume 2 is gonna be kino.



No, anon, nobody on /who/ is hyped for the older male companion. That's why Wilf, Brian and Nardole were so unpopular here, if you recall.



>Doctor Who: The Thirteenth Doctor Vol 0 finds the Doctor regeneration from Peter Capaldi's twelfth incarnation to Whittaker's thirteenth and reliving unseen adventures from all the Time Lord's past selves.

>literally "The Eight Doctors"

Thirteenth Doctor comics are EDAs confirmed



He will steal the show, like Clala did



its dr who not graham who



The Eight Doctors was pretty shite though.



It was utterly terrance dicks


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>Ryan pulling the same face in all 3 images

What an unflattering selection of pics.



>The 3rd Doctor threatens to take the 8th Doctor's Tardis like a common thug, and the 4th Doctor turns into a vampire (probably the best part, actually)

What were they thinking?



Expecting companionkino.


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>middle of a episode and the cybermen start singing this and dancing

How king would it be?


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Choose your aesthetic.






Bottom one



Upper - Capaldi era

Middle - Tennant era

Lower - Smith era



You just know there's a scene lying on some cutting room floor with a doctor saying Domo origoto mr roboto to a cyberman.



grey forest pls


I was also thinking the bottom looked very 11-ish.



I would unironiclly pay to have that scene



Witch episode

South Africa episode

Episode 1?


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Enlightenment just kicked in yo


TARDIS corridor and room scenes are unironically the best part of the Fifth Doctor era


Why do all the old people in the twitch chat always tell anecdotes about watching the episodes on their original airings?



>when they put so much work into the new Doctor, but the most exciting thing is seeing them add a room to the Tardis set

I wont even deny it. They should really explore the Tardis interior more often. It's such a fascinating place in and of itself.



because then they can feel relevant to the modern era

All the boomers who made money are far far away from a TV at this point and have probably ODd on coke 20 years ago





That's all you're going to get.



Because it's sweet and nice?


Also, read this comic if you want some Tardis porn.




I don't understand why they think we care, though.



It's either that or spam something a character just said right?



The real question is why do people always fucking ask what serial is playing instead of just watching it


You know, I watched this episode back in '83… my grandpa was dying of a heart attack and I recall it was rainy outside. We still had a small TV set back then, of course, because most people couldn't afford a big one, so we had to sit right up close to it. Anyway, I recall tugging myself to a half-naked Turlough.



I understand asking it, but what I don't get is when they do it when the title sequence is playing and they have to wait 10 seconds.






>liking Ace of Base

You know, you're pretty cool sometimes, Cloi.



That reference has got to be older than you. They're arguably a more obscure eurodance group than the venga boys. How is it you don't recognize Sgt Pepper's but know who ace of base is? Unfathomable. And my mother agrees I am pretty cool, sometimes.






I grew up as a 90s and early noughties kid hearing Ace of Base on the radio. I really enjoyed their music, so maybe that's why it stuck in my mind.



>tfw when you've heard that song sung badly so many times the original doesn't sound in tune ever warbling in your head, merging with every drunken impromptu karaoke session you've ever witnessed.

Such despair.


I guess it did get alot of radio play ^. Not much on the MTV though. I don't know if had the exposure to be a classic. Vengaboys on the other hand had the six flags thing that lasted until the '10s.

>Forman is finally out.

What the fuck?



>>Forman is finally out.





Oh good, I thought maybe the real Foreman beat us.


God Enlightenment is good. The scene where Turlough is floating off into the abyss has better direction and is more visually striking than like 90% of Davison's entire era.


The Black Guardian has one of the shittiest evil laughs I've ever heard.


>tfw just watched Enlightenment on my own because I wasn't paying attention to the twitch stream


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fix it


>that bit at the end of part 3 where Wrack talks to the camera




This but not for sexual reasons. An all-girl TARDIS team would be legit kino.



rule 34 hype


Eye of the Gorgon in the stream


Is the Mariner's lust for Tegan a pre-emptive deconstruction of Doctor/companion romances?



I was kind of reminded of that scene where 11 tells Amy that he takes companions so he can re-experience the universe through their eyes. Sounds eerily similar.



why the fuck is he so set on it being august

absolutely baseless, setting himself and other gullible people up for disappointment

can't wait for it not to be called 'the woman in blue' as well



top looks really nice

closest to the capaldi era but more impressive, can't really put my finger on what it is about series 8-10 but it'd often go for this aesthetic and sort of seem flat and slightly dull



was trying to think where i know ace of base from

it's this video




wish i could see him smile just once

just once

it'd be pretty funny if he was just pissed of all the time though, might make a good dynamic with braddesrs



>“Well, I would say that it’s hopeful and fizzing with wonder,” Whittaker said, when EW visited the set of Doctor Who in Cardiff, Wales, earlier this year. “I have absolutely shot myself in the foot for any ADR, because I get in there, and realize I speak at a hundred miles an hour. If a plane goes over I’m like, ‘Are you kidding?’ I’ve got to try and match that speech of ‘Di-didda-di-didda-di-didda’? But essentially I think the big theme is hope.”

>“She’s incredibly lively, she’s funny, she’s warm, she’s inclusive, she’s energetic,” said Chibnall. “She’s the greatest friend you’d ever want to have as your guide around the universe.”

>“She has a similar energy to Matt Smith’s Doctor,” said Gill. “Very high energy. Jodie has that about her Doctor.”



sounds comfy



>she's more like 11 than 10




Women would stop watching because no more "will they? won't they?" romance. Men would stop watching because they'd pick ugly women.


lads what if at some point a NuWho showrunner decides to write the fated third encounter with the Black Guardian that never happened?



I hate the Black and White Guardians. Too black and white.



Damn. So we're going to go from "she's the female Tennant" to "she's the female Smith"?



She's obviously female Tennant. What are they trying to pull?



Tbf the only real distinguishing factor is whether or not she occasionally dials it back to seem strange, senile, and complicated rather than a smug brooding git all the time.



>telling people what the characterisation is when they've seen it in action for more than one minute and you haven't

what is the television equivalent of mansplaining?



In as much as I'm right, probably.



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Watching a post-regen clip is not a reliable source of info.


Even though the man leaked it himself, it's still legitimately based that they haven't announced Alan Cumming's role in the new series. During the Moff years they would have done a press release on his first day of filming.



He's Romana.



Why is she wearing string for clothes.


If you didn't know Razor was Simm beforehand it would probably be the most convincing Master disguise.



Still not that convincing



Because you knew Simm was in the episode beforehand.



That's not a high bar.

Ultimately, the only genuinely convincing Master disguise in the history of the series is Missy pre-reveal.



No, because it looks and sounds like John Simm.



But you knew John Simm was in the episode before you watched it.


Never mind the fact the BBC announced Simm; Razor being a disguise for the Master was leaked by the Doctor Who Stalker Reports circlejerk fucking months and months in advance, not long after the initial filming pics of him were originally captured. We had arguments over whether his nose could possibly be Simm's or not. Someone on /who/ even tried to force a meme about it. Few of the leaker cunts' excesses make me angrier in retrospect and more glad Chibnall has cracked the fuck down.


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>tfw no cockney harlot



>it's a Jack the Ripper episode


>the doctor is constantly fooled by the master's disguises in classic who

>fans complain that the doctor should have sensed that Missy was the Master


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I know that feelin.


>Doctor actually uses his quality footwork against the Master again

Is this the one redeeming aspect of King's Demons?


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Is something inhibiting her enzymes?


Interesting thing to note: There are probably multiple Jack-the-Rippers in the Doctor Who timeline, just like the multiple versions of Atlantis.


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Amy… You have to whisk all the eggs…



For once these comics have a good art style


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spoke too soon?



Yeah. They seem to have stepped up the quality a bit for this run. I'll probably find an ugly issue in a minute.


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Holy shit, a DW comic with good art.




i would unironically like this


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Seems a bit surreal having these three in such a dark story.



most of these look really nice too


it's so refreshing, whenever i've seen titan comics posted like that four doctors one it's just been doctor who adventures (the children's magazine) tier


Is this the Master's most childish plan ever?


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Does trying to get 12 to mistake Clara for a Dalek and execute her count as a plan?



If you didn't know who Four or Romana were you wouldn't think there was anything wrong with this page. It's not crap art in itself (mediocre perhaps), it's just crap for the purpose.


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Is this Hoodie?



the very reason i said most

pretty terrifying faces



He's right, tbqh.


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Amy is not a learned woman.


hey cloi can you put a funny word filter on "tbqh"?



May I make the mild suggestion: "desu ne".



I'll just switch to tbqf




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That's an alright gag


Everything about Kamelion is fucking hilariously creepy. The way he speaks. His eyes. What were they thinking?


nilson in the twitch stream


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>they reprinted Starstruck

lol. Why?


nuwho silurians are boomerfilter


God, Davison's haircut looks crap.


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simulcast confirmed



This means it will probably be in cinemas as well.



>new season this fall



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How do you figure?





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Surprised they would go there with this story, but okay.


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Promise I'm not editing these.



Day of the Doctor was simulcast and was in cinemas.

Deep Breath was a new Doctor premiere and was in cinemas.


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Capaldi on set today. Filming for the Christmas special titled The Two Doctors 2.


>that one episode where the moon was a giant space egg and it hatched a big space moth and the big space moth laid another egg the exact same size as the moon despite not having the correct body proportions to actually have something the size of the moon inside of it

>that one negro school child (who totally organically got brought along into these wacky hijinx and isn't a diversity hire at all) who betrayed literally the entire planet

>that scenes where the sidekick bitch plugs her tiny moon screen into literally every TV on the planet and asks them to turn their lights off if they want to blow the moon up

>completely stopping 1/2 of the planet from having a say


>moral of the story is literally "trust women and ignore everyone else"

With writing like that no wonder you retards love the show so much.

The episodes with tennant on that planet near the black hole with literal Satan chained in the basement was eternal kino and i still get chills watching those episodes to this day.



*Twice Upon a Twat




This is how KTM haters actually sound. Do you want to share an opinion with this man? Do you want to be an anti-KTM pleb?


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I mean, it's a bad episode, but there are worse ones. Not sure why that one takes such a focus.


If you don't know, there was some grafitti left at the scene of one of the Jack the Ripper killings, alluding to "the Juwes", and they decided to run with that for a Doctor Who story. Ballsy, I'll give them that.


Watching the absolutely abysmal handling of the Silurians in Warriors of the Deep suddenly makes their overly-humanising NuWho redesign a lot more understandable. They probably wanted to breathe some life into a concept that had been reduced to an utter embarrassment. I wouldn't want to be visually associated with this fucking mess either.



Well that explains it, I guess. Still pretty funny.



Top to bottom:

BBC One-tier

BBC Three-tier





>there are worse episodes than the one that is the worst episode

Impossible to get worse than that trainwreck.

Oh yea and the moon had spiders on it.

Literal spiders that spun webs and they were infesting the moon egg.

Also when their space shuttle crash lands on the moon it is still in 1 piece (thanks to the amazing ace female pilot of course) and as it's falling it makes plane noises as if there was air.


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>this is now a Farshnuke story


Sleep no More was worse.


Also friendly reminder that peter capaldi is Italian.


What happened in sleep no more?



Monsters made of "sleep dust"



that doesn't sound too bad.

what sounds worse?

"Aliens made of dust that makes things go to sleep"

"the moon is actually a giant moth space egg"



Sleep No More is basically Mark Gatiss' attempt at a found footage horror episode, which runs into the problems of having a fake-deep premise involving eye bogeys metastasising into lumbering bogey monsters which are boring as shit, zero effecive horror scenes, and only about 1 sort-of-memorable character. Which is a shame because it tries (haphazardly) to do some genuinely inventive things with the found footage genre in the process, but lacks the ingenuity to make anything watchable out of it.



No, the crust that forms on your eyelids when you sleep.




>someone was paid to write this

>someone was paid government money to write this

>you were taxed to pay for this writer to unironically air this on TV


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It's still better than anything else on BBC One.


>jack the ripper actually turned out to be a alien monster

How fucking boring.

If i were doing a jack the ripper story i'd have him be a hero who hunts vampire alien whores or something.

that's way fucking cooler and has messages about how time corrupts history.

would you watch a show about jack the ripper actually being a vampire alien whore hunter?



Which is why we really need to stop paying for those layabouts to produce crap, and shelter paedophiles.







>he pays his TV license

>he owns a TV

what are you doing



very true



I only have one so my wife's son can watch CBBC



Craig Hinton had an unpublished fanfic about Jack the Ripper secretly being the Seventh Doctor having to kill unborn Dalek-human hybrids that were implanted into prostitutes.



Well, I don't, but people do, and they need to not do that.



Now THAT sounds fucking amazing, i'd read the absolute shit out of that.



can i read that anywhere?


you need to use larger bait if you want to catch Haddock


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When I say "unpublished", I mean "it's probably in some long-lost notebook." Only time I heard about it was a quick sentence in the Shelf Life anthology.



And since we're contrasting with KTM here…I would quite handily submit that any interaction between Clara and the Doctor in KTM - among them scenes that contain stakes, surprising outcomes, and nuanced character development - is better television than the entirety of Sleep No More, which makes little effort to use the lead actors other than getting Capaldi to pretentiously quote Shakespeare out of context (and you can see the boredom on his face as he does so).

Actually we might as well go all in on the KTM defence since we've started. Doctor Who has always been more reliant on associative logic and the abstract than any sense of scientific realism, so objections like "It's not the right size to lay an egg that size so quickly", "where is the mass coming from", or "what about the orientation of the Earth" are more like amusing quirks than anything that actually undermines the story.

The more interesting objection is the ideological one against Clara and Courtney's actual decision (and its subsequent framing as an unequivocally good, right, and even beautiful thing). This is the spiky element of the episode and where its radical grit lies - unblinking optimism and willingness to take a chance even when the entire world says no. I would argue that this doesn't represent a failure of Doctor Who, because it has no obligation to espouse ruthless pragmatism in questions of how to deal with fantastical moon eggs. Arguably one of the whole points of fiction like this is to depict and imagine extremes which we can't take in real life. (This is also where the "it's an anti-abortion story" reading collapses; the whole conflict of the episode hinges on the fundamental incomprehensibility of the egg.)

And the story, bless its heart, engages with that sense of extremity, by being the one where Clara finally snaps and rages at the Doctor that she came within an inch of getting it wrong, failing the test he callously dumped her in with no assistance. She nearly got it wrong because she nearly did what all of us at home would have done!



Is it canon though?




If you want it to be. It's not official Hinton lore or anything.



>the doctor, widow and wardrobe appearing in the top 50

>the doctor falls only one place above it

what the fuck, stopped reading there



I don't care what you say, having the moon be a giant space moth egg that hatches every few million years is some pure bottom barrel shit.



holy shit lol

what crackhead came up with that



I can live with wacky out there concepts, the episode just wasn't that good.


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Britain, Britain, Britain…




For me the problem with the wacky concepts in KTM is that it's a dark, serious episode with a superficially realistic setting but it still runs on cartoon logic.



ok what the fuck is KTM?


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Kill the Moon?



Why? Because it couldn't possibly happen in real life? Or because "moon is round and white, therefore = egg" is the most outrageously obvious and simplistic example of associative logic imaginable, to the point that it borders on trolling and no-one would every possibly try to write a serious, grimdark story about it?

That perversity is why they wrote the episode. It's a massive statement.



Kill The Moon. It's the name of the episode that we're grousing about.


How do you fix the last 15 minutes of Last of the Time Lord /who/?



I think you're just over-analyzing a low budget TV show made to justify the BBC stealing money from people.

You can't tell me the writers sat down in a room and said "this will sure make em think! this is a huge statement about how no-one expected the moon to be an egg but it actually was all along!!!"

That shit didn't happen.


wait they actually stole the idea from a cartoon or something?



>the writers

You're… new here, aren't you



What's actually wrong with it?

Hypnotism and psychic stuff has been a staple of the Master since his first scene in Doctor Who. They established the archangel network, they showed Martha telling the story of the Doctor – do people not like the ending because he gets all glowy and jesus-y? Is it because of the way the effects look? Since when did we complain about effects?

If it's a point of storytelling or convenience.. I mean, I see ten times as many people complaining about jesus Doctor than I do complaining about puddle Heather saving Bill in TDF



>wait they actually stole the idea from a cartoon or something?

Nah pretty sure it's unrelated.



The literal reset button



It's mainly the jesus-y look, and how it's a deus ex machina



>no-one expected the moon to be an egg but it actually was all along

The point was "is it right to commit a possibly great injustice for what might be the greater utilitarian good?"



Most changes I would make are cosmetic. It doesn't need the fucking glowing floating Doctor, we don't need to see people literally praying and saying the word "Doctor", all of this shit is overegging the pudding and turning what ought to be a hopeful and inspiring hero moment into an eerie piece of authorial fanaticism which never gets adequately interrogated.



>an eerie piece of authorial fanaticism which never gets adequately interrogated.

Wew. Alright, lad. Could have just said it was a bit gay.



There is a problem with the narrative worshipping the Doctor. There is nothing wrong with it being gay.



Yeah, but it's a bit gay.



Why should he have to simplify it? He's clever about it and makes a valid point. If you think that's wew-worthy then go grab your crayons and scribble in your Dalek coloring book



>Wew. Alright, lad. Could have just said it was a bit gay.

Wew. Alright, lad. Could have just said "gig".



No no. It's cute that he's putting the creative writing classes to good use.


A season with the Master stuck in the TARDIS, traveling with the Doctor might have been kino imo



I'll always wonder what they were going for with the robot master companion in Scream of the Shalka.



When they inevitably resurrect the character, they should stop flirting with that idea and just do it. A whole arc where it seems like, after dying and coming back to life this time, the Master has actually reformed and follows up on Missy's wish to become good again, so we actually get to see them be friends with the Doctor like when they were little. A proper companion. Not totally whitewashed of course, but actually delivering on WEAT's promise of a mischievous companion who's the carnivore to the Doctor's vegetarian and has to be reined in, but also takes decisive action where the Doctor is fretful. They complement each other. With the added bonus that the two of them are fully on equal terms, equally competent and unbreakable, totally transforming the dynamic of the show.

The kino comes from watching this relationship slowly deteriorate all over again, and become twisted/destructive like 12/Clara. But if we want to be radical then it doesn't necessarily have to end in the Master going fully evil and restoring the boring status quo, they could just have a normal companion departure and something else gets done with the lor einstead.



I honestly hope they do follow through and we get a Anti-Hero like Master

Or maybe the Master trying to one up the Doctor's heroness and accidentally making stuff worse



What if the Master were eventually to become President of Gallifrey. Not an evil ruler, but someone who's maybe overly eager to wield all of that military power, for well meaning but destructive causes. Declaring endless wars against all of the Doctor's oldest enemies. Starting the time war up all over again, but all the while he's just trying his hardest to do some good.


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We really were robbed with the S10 companion dynamic. Missy was travelling with the Doctor (albeit not for very long), and we barely got to see it, except in some brief scenes tagged on at the end of episodes, and the finale two-parter. She had great chemistry with Twelve, and I'm sad we'll never see that again.




Also this could culminate in delivering on the fakeout of the S8 finale trailer, with a true Doctor vs. Companion story - except not because the Master has gone evil, but because the Master and the Doctor are trying to pursue good ends in fundamentally incompatible ways, and we can sympathise with both of their arguments. The Master takes the Doctor's hero doctrine to heart, but applies it in a way the Doctor can't accept.

With a companion who is just as capable as the Doctor, the potential of this is unbelievable. A power struggle within the TARDIS team itself, fraught with betrayal and pride, where it's never clear who will have the upper hand. The Doctor's tricks of the trade are turned against him. We finally see why it's recommended to only have one psychopath per TARDIS. And despite it all, their friendship never actually reverts to enmity - they are just trying to get each other to see the truth.

At the end it will be clear that they can no longer travel together. Maximum kino mode: they part on bittersweet terms.


Jodie calling her doctor high energy is nothing more than a dog whistle to trump supporters and I am appaled





Imagine a Doctor-lite episode where the Master just fills the role of the Doctor. The Doctor's having tea in the TARDIS or something so the Master walks out the doors and it's Master Who this week.


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-llianz insurance how can i help you?







Fess up - Lym or Nilso?


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>most people agreeing top is the best

Colourfags utterly and irrevocably rekt



top looks fucking goat



ST2.5 had gay porn so I don't see why not

make sure you include pictures



Do you mean the War King? Faction Paradox got there first


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>I do what I do because it's right!


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> I'd think it would be… bad… if the Doctor didn't need help with emotional labor because she's a woman now.

>Can I just say I… Really do not agree with this


Can I confess that I…really hate people qualifying their opinions by doing…this…


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YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


I know right, I saw that video and it looks like the most unappetising thing ever



Don't see many Red Roosters around these days



I think we've gotten a chicken there a whole once in my life, it was bland as fuck. the regular local charcoal chicken shop is better



Why does liz think that the doctor needing emotional help is a definitively male trait?


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I was thinking about propaganda and revisionism today, and it struck me that Moffat didn't just whitewash Churchill and Nixon, but he literally made Hitler cuddly as well.

It very much fits the pattern of a man who has said - quite sincerely - "we’ve kind of got to tell a lie" regarding historicity in episodes.

"To hell with it, this is the imaginary, better version of the world. By believing in it, we’ll summon it forth" he says. What better version of the world is conjured by monsters from history? Never has Doctor Who strayed further from its initial idea of being educational for children than when Moffat dragged it into being genuine propaganda for children.

As always, it reminds me of that song…

I got my propaganda

I got revisionism

I got my violence

In hi-def ultra-realism

All a part of this great nation

I got my fist

I got my plan

I got survivalism


From Moffat's Day of the Doctor novelisation:

>'Time travel. One-man time travel, basically. Pop the strap on your wrist, and off you go. Top security rating of any item here—no one can know we have this, not even our allies.’

> ‘Why not?’ ‘

>Are you serious? Americans with the ability to rewrite history? You’ve seen their news coverage.'

This gag is especially hilarious when you consider what Moffat himself did with Doctor Who. The hypocrisy is astounding, without even touching S10.



how were churchill and nixon whitewashed?



Hands up, who else instantly noticed how Moffat had edited that joke from the episode the moment they read it?



Men are stereotyped as being less in-touch with their emotional selves than woman are.



but why would liz support rigid gender stereotypes?


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who did it better?



Because Moffat happened to put a massive amount of stress on it during an era in which he was heavily concerned with the Doctor as an example of destructive masculinity, creating the image of a male Doctor being emotionally coddled by his female companions at their own expense ("never let him see the damage, he doesn't like endings"). Like it or not this has certain resonances in the real world. Women learn in everyday life to tread carefully around male feelings (and on the occasions that they don't, the entire sex gets branded soulless whores and probably blamed for a school shooting).

A female Doctor is a perfect opportunity to relax that dynamic and do something more positive.



>he was heavily concerned with the Doctor as an example of destructive masculinity

you're going to have to substantiate this



In a show Moffat is extremely aware is positioned towards children, Moffat positions these figures as cuddly, a lovable rogue for Nixon and an admirable friend of the Doctor in Churchill. The latter is especially egregious.



what does that have to do with whitewashing?



Women doing men's emotional labour is one of my least favourite parts of gender dynamics; it's so utterly fucking juvenile on the male end and needlessly stressful on the female end. Astounds me that women are more commonly characterised as the more childish gender when so many men barely progress past childhood emotionally, let alone adolescence.



Everything. It is the definition.


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That mix is nice but kind of a letdown considering who it's from. Definitely prefer the original. Desu I don't like many of the YEARZEROREMIXED tracks either; the album was just a hasty effort of Trent's to get out from under Interscope and OH IT SHOWS.



Nixon is hardly a loveable rogue in that two-parter, in fact it pretty plainly depicts him as an idiot who is just a tool for the Doctor and friends to use (and covers stuff up in the process, a conspicuous detail). The Doctor even makes cracks about his disastrous future in their final scene together. It's pretty much as close as Moffat could get to being critical of a famous American president in an episode.



>Women doing men's emotional labour

are hetfags really like this? that's fucking stupid



I really disagree and those cracks are exactly what I'm talking about. For all it's faults, Trump's depiction in S10 at least had some teeth to it. Some.



by depiction do you mean "he's orange" and "trump was inevitable", or the unnamed president in extremis that looks nothing like him?



For all I love Harness, I think it's notable his take on Trump (in Pyramid) was effete and cowardly (Bill having a go at his orange skin). Moffat's take on Trump in TDF is interesting and understated, and his take in Extremis - while confusing (that could be partly directorial though) is ultimately quite ballsy for a BBC show. I do think the "inevitable" line is passed over by people without much consideration of its context.



Trump completely fails to call out Trump or his adminstration for its inherent bigotry whereas TIA/DOTM partially revolves around a man who quit the FBI in protest at the government's racism and homophobia.



*S10 completely fails. Sorry



S10 killed the actual of-the-time President, S6 was too cowardly to even explicitly condemn a President reviled by history. No coincidence Canton was never seriously engaged with either, in what I think is one of the biggest missed opportunities of Moffat's eras.



I don't consider the president in extremis to be a statement on trump. They had shown many people kill themselves by that point and even considered it a logical decision (so the monks couldn't simulate them anymore), and they made an intentional choice to not use someone that looked like trump



>its inherent bigotry

prove this


Nilsostein Alba

React & Connect



>S10 killed the actual of-the-time President

The simulants in Extremis are explicitly killing themselves to "save the world" by denying the Monks information. S10 gave Trump a heroic suicide, and even a better fucking toupee. And you defend this.



Without even going into how the very next episode and the finale explicitly use Trump as the President, and how Moff references Trump as a president in an alternate reality (Extremis) in DWM 503, there's this, explict:


>Mulkern: When was Extremis filmed – before the US presidential election? How did you resist the temptation to depict the president who’s just committed suicide as either Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton?

>Moffat: It was written before the election, and shot after. I noted in the script that the gender of the president was yet undetermined, but we’d know by the time we were in the studio. It’s not every day you get to choose which president to kill…

It was President Trump, Moffat just understandably didn't have the balls to actually make it look like him.


Consider the optics to someone less invested in the show than you.



any optics are nullified by the fact that the president didn't look like trump. Not only is in-narrative suicide treated like a heroic act, the optics of the context-free scenario are just a generic president



>Consider the optics to someone less invested in the show than you.

So a completely contentless gesture which is only "brave" in the sense that it might piss off some idiot in another country who doesn't actually watch the show but perhaps vaguely heard about the scene on the internet. No wonder you love it so much.


I'm getting tired of the ironic politics-posting, desu. It's not funny to me anymore.



the fact that moff was equally willing to do it to hillary suggests that it's not a statement on the person, just a plot device



I think the "in-narrative suicide is treated like a hero act" could do with some unpacking. Are all the murderers of the Extremis world who killed themselves as well heroes?


You are projecting an attitude towards the scene onto me that I have not displayed. That said, I'm confused about how you seem to imply the reaction you describe would be meaningless.


Perhaps it's in truth a more woke statement on the two of them. Moffat may be plenty neolib at times, painfully so, but I'm sure there are bridges too far for him too.



>Are all the murderers of the Extremis world who killed themselves as well heroes?

Only the people who killed themselves knowing that everything was a simulation and killing themselves helped save the real earth were doing a heroic act



it wasnt a statement but they literally refer to trump in the same episode/trilogy multiple times so you cant take it as some alternate president



>Are all the murderers of the Extremis world who killed themselves as well heroes?

Probably not, but showing them having committed suicide would not be some huge dunk on them for being murderers in a story where everyone is committing suicide.



Are we discounting the idea that, in Extremis, (perhaps in the uncapitalised sense as well) President Trump committed suicide for a different reason? In fact, can we be sure it was even suicide at all? There's quite a lot that can be mined from such an effusive bit of staging in that episode.


Ultimately this all ties into the surprisingly blurred takes on suicide Moffat seemed to be working through in S10.


Yup. Woke as usual kinda.



>they literally refer to trump in the same episode/trilogy multiple times so you cant take it as some alternate president

it's pretty established by this point that the trilogy is a fucking mess and there was virtually no planning or communication between the different writers since moff's mum was dying and he was a wreck



Perhaps that in and of itself is a comment on the Trump administration.



>Perhaps it's in truth a more woke statement on the two of them. Moffat may be plenty neolib at times, painfully so, but I'm sure there are bridges too far for him too.

I think he understands that politics isnt black and white and that there were valid reasons for trump/brexit, so he tries to reflect that in his writing



Yeah, I think he's certainly self-aware and does consider the audience is filled with people unlike him.



It's nothing so complicated as writers failing to communicate. Of course they didn't make it look like Trump because if they gave him Trump's trademark clusterfuck hairdo or spray tan, the loaded iconography of that would have swallowed the scene.

I'm not actually backing up Neo's fake argument here, by the way, but it is a perfectly reasonable conclusion that the president there is some Doctor Who version of Trump. Doctor Who has a different looking version of Obama as well and nobody minded that.



But having said that, you can only work out that it's Trump if you're invested enough in the show to be aware that he is the canonical president during S10. So the question of "the optics to people less invested in the show" goes out the window.



would one not assume that the current president is the president in the companions current time?



I think the neatest solution honestly would have been just show the President's feet/legs and sidestep the hair totally. Hell, you could even do that genderlessly enough it would sidestep the reality of whatever President was elected too.


One would.



I would, unless we were shown them and they looked like someone else, in which case I'd question that assumption and figure they might just be doing the "generic president" move that sf/f series often use.



you might have had a point if we didn't outright see real world donald trump in lie of the land


i mean the best solution would to be having an exact trump replica and have bill dab on his corpse



Ultimately I think we got a mature, measured response to President Trump in The Doctor Falls at least.



the official styling is, His Excellency, President Donald Trump and you will refer to him as such


Hanging out with Nilso I hear he’s in fucking custody


Off to work now, but I enjoyed these conversations a lot. Have a good one lads. Still got a nice surprise for some of you here coming, possibly tonight or tomorrow depending what happens.


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This is why normies deserve to be gassed.


Whats my best option for watching classic who without dropping money on dvds and subcribing to britbox?



i wanna die




Not all of these still work but it's worth a shot.



Put Missy and River in the middle too, I reckon



Missy is the second-best character in that entire image.



Stupid RTDfag scum



rank em











nilsos gay













nilsos gay guys













yeah but nilsos gay



Clara >Donna > Missy > Amy > Vastra/Jenny > Martha >>>River >>>>>>>>>Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rose


2 weeks until sesska husbands of river song



she's gonna react 10x more strongly to it than she did all of face the raven/heaven sent/hell bent combined



And That's A Good Thing


Trying to get my gf into classic who, she ain't really into newwho. Was thinking of starting her off with Genesis of the Daleks. Any other ideas?



Starting on 7/Ace seasons is another good bet, as their closer to NuWho. Curse of Fenric is really good for that.



ah hell yeah good idea! She's into a lot of late 80s/early 90s media in general so that's a good call.


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Oh fuck the child Master from The Sound of Drums has died https://twitter.com/TobyHadoke/status/1017657088292597760



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how will nilso ever recover?



he won't



Nilso thinks a good man with a knife will arrive and take it down


Chibnall claims they had a female doctor or else they would be behind the rest of the world. I don't think that's true there are not many shows around the world in any genre with a female lead but a show that's being going for over 50 years with a male character to suddenly change their gender doesn't make sense unless you're making a political point



Political points aren't inherently bad.


Which aspects of Doctor Who are boomercore and which aspects are boomer filter?


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i love her



where did you get this? That looks like a twitter filename



So this basically confirms an SDCC trailer?



Gallifrey Base, not sure where they got it. There doesn't seem to be a PDF anywhere yet that I can find.


how the fuck are you supposed to navigate gallifrey base? it's a mess



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christ, the state of this place


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something is wrong with her right arm

it looks too small, like they shrunk it just to do the 'o' thing


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a very english protest



I bet you secretly cracked a smile to this.



what exterminating has trump done, exactly?



>that 36 year old boomer who posts on gallifreybase



Nothing secret about it.


I am a good Dalek. Are there any recent Doctor Who episodes with my morality in them?



obama's legacy


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i audibly laughed desu


the best DD track is lowkey every planet we reach is dead



based, although el mañana just drumpfs it for me



Comparing politicians to daleks has been done since 1964 it’s nothing noteworthy



what's your favourite track on the album that comes before FGI.?


trump dalek haha xd


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Is this The Watcher?





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N trips entering the thread like


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Probably Dirty Harry if only for its nostalgia value



Needs more legos




the only autistic one here is you



wew that didn't take long


last living souls / kids with guns / o green world is my fav 3parter of gz


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Can't really argue with that.



I’ve always wanted a cute autistic doctor



>jodie's socks aren't pure blue, they have at least one stripe on them

>the cuffs on her sleeves have a blue accent just on the top half

the more you know


The Smugglers is currently in transit to the UK from Singapore



Taking a long time. Couldn't they afford better delivery?


How do I know what resolution I should export a photoshop at



>that 50 year old boomer cletus glaring in the background


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best songs named after doctor who episodes?



you mean dpi? or just the dimensions?


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oh no nilsos crying….


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imagine being lauren southern and wearing this shirt in fucking australia what a fucking dafty



i thought she wasn't allowed in australia



unfortunately after a bunch of people got butthurt about it they decided to let her in




I think she just applied for the wrong visa the first time







>Doomsday is the next RTD episode and above Heaven Sent/Hell Bent

EW is right


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I hate that mentality that episodes like Doomsday, Earthshock and *the last Lucie Miller episode* are good because a companion dies


Blink is the best Tennant episode solely because his scenes are minimal.



i wish



It's why every time without fail, everyone says "this next companion should die to have emotional impact!" and then complain when they don't die.


Companion deaths should be as rare as possible in order for them to actually have an effect. If every companion died every time, like everyone seems to want, it would have no impact whatsoever.



i guess i agree but have we even had a proper companion death ONCE in nuwho?



The problem with the first main new Who companion departure being the way it was is that it set a precedent for audiences that companion exits should always be devastating and heartbreaking, and dare I say it, high stakes. This meant that fans constantly crave for the next companion departure to one-up it in emotional impact and then they complain if it doesn't.



It means he's a

>Writer, blogger, grumpy old man, historian, nationalist, athiest, Well fan, author of Dr Who: Face to Face, Saviour of Fandom. More ironic than you, obvs. Duh.


Reminder that by the time bill was turned into a cyberman, more than 10 years had passed since The Pilot.

Why would bill still be in love with a girl that she met at a party once and spoke to on a park bench once over ten years ago?



Because the only other option was Razor.




damn that almost makes sense

>bill was lonely in the hospital so would reminisce about some girl she once liked



Unearthly Child is only incredible in retrospect since you get to see them set up 50 years worth of stories and it's really quite beautiful. On its own it's just decent


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>calls history a whitewash (also a lie)


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>my people



Who is the person in this picture? I assume he’s not involved in doctor who


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I did the ugliest fucking laugh at this



I think we can blame RTD for this. They're Time Lords, not Jedi



is it just me or does jas look completely different there? is it just the hair?



Moral of the story is Clara is becoming like the Doctor/he is testing her

It's still a fucking shit story that didn't happen and is not canon



SNM was Gatiss' attempt at doing a Moffat



That's far too edgy for Who



>moral of the story is literally "trust women and ignore everyone else"

women had nothing to do with it, the moral was just "do what you know is right even when everyone else is against you"

it's still a dumb episode and I agree that the satan 2-parter is pure kino



Whitewashing of Churchill is a much wider problem than just Steven Moffat, half of Britain thinks the man was just a cigar smoking V-signing war hero




Calling Trump "inevitable" is a completely non-partisan line, I've heard Trump supporters the same thing



Why are you visiting /pol/?



Rose doesn't die in Doomsday

Earthshock is pretty good



William Shatner


Do you think Nilso knows who the other janitor is?



Surely the fact that it was written before the election and the president would have been male or female depending on the result tells you that it really isn't about Trump? In an alternate universe where Hillary won and the president was female, would your lefty self be complaining that it was "about Hillary"?


nilary clinton



Does his visiting of /pol/ concern you?



Yes. It shows us he's even more of a cletus than we expected.



It’s been established since 1964 that time lords are telepathic so it makes sense to me that the Doctor should be able to recognise other time lords even if they have regenerated. I believe the reason the Master fools him is because he has trained himself to disguise his telepathy from the Doctor


do you really think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?


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Rose basically dies. She’s removed from the universe to a place the Doctor can’t go




That's only "basically dying" to women



Best line of series 8; one of the best of the Capaldi era as a whole (along with "Pity…no stars. I hoped there'd be stars.").






You're taking this TRAILER ANNOUNCEMENT FOR SUNDAY very casually.



I was attacked by a tentacle monster and saved by an alien who looks like a lanky white boy. Can't get shocked after a night like that!


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>trailer on Sunday night


I'm gonna be an hour late to the party, lads


The trailer will be shit. Screencap this



i only go to /pol/

>when something is happening (like the trump protest now)

>to use the democrat flag and go (you) farming on the trump general



did we just become canon?


>#DoctorWho and friends

>Official Doctor Who Twitter account referring to the Doctor as 'Doctor Who'

Golden age cancelled, ruby age confirmed





Anyone here going to SDCC?



>"It's Doctor Who!"


>"It's the Doctor!"

True fans:

>"It's Doctor Who!"



Don't forget that the official Titan comic is called "The Many Lives of Doctor Who" too.



Ascended True Fans:

>"It's Dr. Who!"



If anyone important behind the SDCC panel calls 13 'Dr Who' I will descend onto the next plane of existence



what the fuck is wrong with that fuckugly lava

it's like it has the photoshop plastic wrap filter over it, it's so fucking shiny and messy looking



It's pizza


>Get ready this Sunday for an exclusive look at new Doctor Who. Make sure you're subscribed to see



how much money would an ad spot in the fifa world cup finale have costed them?


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>specially shot trailer

Looks like kino is back on the menu, boys.



Nothing. It's BBC advertising their own show.



>classic who stream

>new doctorwhotv site

>torchwood stream

>the specially shot jodie reveals

>bringing back normal specially shot trailers

i know it's early but has chibbers unironically saved doctor who?



>specially shot trailer

where did you get that info from?






>it won't be quiet

>it won't be safe

>and it won't be carr

what did he mean by this?



According to GallyBase, the Digital Spy editor posted it on Twitter.



I don't like the repeated audio of some mechanical noise at the start, it's distracting and takes you out of it



Shutting down any rumors that Alan Carr would be playing the Doctor



I so unashamedly love the RTD TARDIS



I like it in Series 1 and 2 before they blasted it with orange lights making it look like a TV set.


When the Doctor says lots of planets have a north, is he implying that the northern English accent is some kind of parasite in many different species?



We can only hope.



It got warmer, which suited Tennant more. I agree the colder, greyer look was much better though, and that was mainly the one I was referring to.


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Billie looks nothing like what she did in s1



it's hard to see her real face under that cake


I can't believe we've got an official trailer announcement


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>whovians rise


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I think it's understated how comfy the Doctor's study is. Finally we got to see the Doctor with his own room, with photos of loved ones and ornaments from his previous lives


What if it's not a trailer and it's just an official release of that leaked scene?


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Use two images with the same view of his face.



Finally! 100% indisputable proof, straight from the horse's mouth, that the female Doctor is an act of real-world political virtue-signalling. This IS the hostile SJW takeover many of us suspected. #notmydoctor



The Matt is Dead theory - shall we write it, lads?



it's not my image


Fake Paul = Faul

Fake Matt = Fatt


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Matt would have looked so wrong in the RTD TARDIS, whereas I think Jodie would look right in the Capaldi TARDIS. She also looks better in Capaldi's clothes than her own



Hoodie is comfortably the single most pathetic person I have ever come across. Fucking Christ.


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It's amazing to look at all these pinterest images showing Matt as the most whimsical Doctor. I mean, thinking about it, he definitely is, but I don't hang around in the sort of crowds that post edited pictures of 11 in the snow or staring at the stars so I never really think about it.



Gig is comfortably the single most based person I have ever come across. Fucking Christ.


does anyone here believe in free will?





I think it's subject to a complicated argument that gets drilled down to two reductive binary oppositions.



Heaven Sent disproved the concept forever.



Would you care to elaborate



Free will v determinism: dawn of arguing is a pretty dull way of shutting down a very complicated set of questions that doesn't really jive well with the science or the philosophy addressing those questions. Have you ever heard of compatibalism?



>Have you ever heard of compatibalism?

I have. You're compatible with Giga.



I've heard of compatibalism in passing, I'll have to research it more. You're asserting that the larger question is dull, if I'm understanding it correctly, but I find it interesting.



That's not for me to say.



I believe in determinism but I also concede that pretending free will exists is the only thing that keeps society functional


An argument against free will: some things are just inevitable.




It's hardly pretending if it's impossible to knowingly act any other way, right?



*capitalist society



No no, I'm saying that in my opinion drilling down the argument to just free will v determinism is dull (partly because it encourages a lot of line-in-the-sand quasi-religious positioning instead of much actual discussion), since there's so much more to those questions than just "picking a side". I find all those questions hugely fascinating too. I do encourage looking into compatibilism more; to me it's always seemed the most intuitive approach.


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Colin is such a photogenic Doctor




Good points well made


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post/recommend determinism-core

>Heaven Sent





CHOWDAH or shoudair?






Love & Monsters



by 'pretend' I mainly mean acknowledging that laws are based on the notion that you have a 'free will' and therefore should be punished by making the wrong decision, otherwise many people would absolve themselves of responsibility from doing something wrong.

I would say that laws exist because at some point in the past people came to the conclusion that there should be limitations put on peoples behaviour - this is a deterministic event.

Based on knowledge of laws that exist to limit their behaviour and potential consequences for breaking them, people evaluate actions and determine whether they should do something or not. If someone breaks a law, punishing them is meant to be either a means of protection for the rest of civilisation, or a deterrent to prevent them from doing the same thing that has been established as wrong again. There's no such thing as an objective moral truth, just personal morals which are formed from a combination of natural proclivity, lived experiences and the cultural axiom.




bump limit



i'm talking about the book, i've not seen it either bruh—not because of any ill will towards it though, I just haven't gotten around to it.


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