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New edition






Back when they revealed the new gang I thought we were probably overestimating how cancerous it would turn out to be.

Blows my mind that it's actually turned out worse.




DWM really has no clear target audience. You go from a 4 page article about why a wall in Day of the Daleks was green to a bunch of teenagers saying Classic Who is shit because it has bad effects.



>Day of the Daleks was green




Put your trip back on please Neo


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DWM has been JUSTified ever since the Panini Are Cunts incident.


I was 8 (12) minutes into Deadly Assassin and I realised there was no female characters. How can people watch this sexist shit?


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who was in the wrong here?


>only male characters

sexist dreck

>only female characters

and that's a good thing!


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how times change


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Not even Capaldi dicksuckers liked Hell Bent. You must be baiting



Timelords can't be female.



>try not to bump it


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oh no no no no



It was *one* audio, from a hugely acclaimed writer who'd just come off managing another audio with a big cast that had been enormously well-received, with a very marketable premise.


No. Even moreso now than then, BF don't seem inclined to give people outside the inner club keys to big BF releases like that.


I'd never make a random thread outside the general; it annoys me that people do, sending ancient threads that should be preserved to the archive faster than they should be.


>This is the CinemaSins approach to film criticism. Looking for plot holes to expose the flaws in a film is a meme that ultimately destroys any ability to enjoy film. If you're looking for plot holes, you will usually find them, especially in a blockbuster film with many moving parts.

>also the "casino plot was pointless" criticism actively angers me, because it has a THEMATIC point. It's like, people don't actually want movies to be about things, they just want an empty calorie plot where the good guys win and the bad guys lose.



Ah yes, the sub where criticism is literally banned, truly the bastion of defending the ability to discuss films in detail.



You realise they only got the female crew members for that picture because it was women’s day right? There are still men working on the show and the person in charge of the show is a man



I agree with that though. Plot holes aren't that big of a deal if the movie is good. IF the movie is good.


Yep that's it. Just a slight thing say "series" for the 2005 - 2018 show. Say "season" for 1963 - 1989. I mean, you don't have to but it helps stops confusion. Even though everyone knows what you're talking about rn…heh


How long until Briggs Finish brings back the Midnight monster to explain what it is and Briggs voices it?





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>>only [overrepresented] characters

>sexist dreck

>>only [underrepresented] characters

>and that's a good thing!

woah, fuck this double-standard!!



Hey Morph! Did you listen to the audios yet? Hope your trip is going well.



You forgot your flag.






Not morph



Need more white people in Bollywood, tbqh.


> TFW your favourite Doctor of the new era is Capaldi

> Most of his episodes were ruined by Moffat's desperate attempts to turn Clara into "THE MOST IMPORTANT COMPANION EVEEEEER"



hey bud, which board did you come from?


Filter the ___ter


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Whats wrong with something simple like this?


skelly supports fraser anning


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I'm getting kind of addicted to these, I don't even have to leave my apartment building to get one, they're 0 calories (or near enough as makes no matter), give a nice perk up of energy, I like the taste…what have I become, my sweetest friend…



I've had like literally one energy drink in my whole life but for some reason I saw a six pack of red bulls at the shops today and seriously considered buying it.



Red bulls are pretty nice, I'd say more people would like the taste of them than something like Monster/Mother/V. I wonder if the boomer meme has actually had more Internet denizen types buying them. Are you more of a coffee guy, or don't even need energy perkups from drinks?


I’ve never had an energy drink in my life, the closest is Powerade that they handed out at school cross country runs


neo, slem?



lol I'm at work right now sorry, and will be for the next 6-7 hours.


I always keep 2 Gatorades in my fridge for post-hangover wakeups.



wagecuck FeelsComfyMan



That's me!



That's Gareth!


just kidding gareth is starving and had jeopardised his chances of employment by tweeting stupid shit


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>he spends 9 hours a day labouring over other people's children

Could I be a bigger cuck?



Not a big coffee fan. Sometimes I have/make iced coffee but that's pretty much it. It didn't even occur to me that the boomer memes might be why I was eyeing the redbull.

Sometimes I just see things at the shops that I don't normally buy and I spontaneously get it.



Oh, and you mustn't tell anyone your name. No one would understand it, anyway. Except, ah! (collapses) Except children.



That you would think that is disturbing.



I’ve also never had more than one and a half standard drinks in one night so I can’t relate to hangovers


Reminder that it's inevitable that massive marketing campaign will start late august / early september and level of promotion will be as big as s1/s5


I gotta tell you, guys, I'm really disappointed. The last few days have been some of the most godawful /who/ by numbers dreck I've ever seen. You need to pick yourselves up, dust yourselves off, and get your goddamn dicks out of each other's nostrils and get this shit straightened out.




What would you like to talk about?



Im really interested to see how the marketing goes this time around, particularly to see if they market mainly to a domestic feel or take the Americanized route s5 did.


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why is this a thing now?





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damn. what show is this? looks great



needs a bigger grid


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Dr. Who


Find more kino and we can make it bigger.


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at last


We should have one planet where Dildo is filtered and another planet where it isn't.



I wish I was from the planet where this post made sense.


>spending every day talking about a 50 year old sci-fi show on a site that has a bestiality board

ever question how you got here in life?




I try not to think about it



N * L S O is filtered to Dildo.



And what filters to planet?



Nothing. Are you not aware of _'s political ideology?


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Is he a Mormon?



He thinks everyone different from himself should move to another planet.



>He thinks

Good one.


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>the Earthshock ending shot


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Got the compilation finished but idk what to do for the background



who asked?



rude anon


There’s some Australian politician talking about a final solution for immigrants.




Aliens Among Us



AAAlex, _ when he lets his guard down.


I haven't listened to his speech, what's his logic for wanting the white australia policy back? Does he acknowledge that the demographic changes have already happened, and can't be undone without abhorrently inhumane exiling that would do far more damage to society than whatever he thinks the current course is?




Tamsin going rogue and joining the Monk


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I haven't listened to it either but i dont think he ever mention the WaP specifically, he pushed for a motion about supporting the Menzies immigration scheme though.

I'd be interested to see what the result would be for an immigration plebiscite though, politicians SERIOUSLY underestimate how much large amounts of Aussies dont care about being called racist.

qanda is gonna be a shitfest next week









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What's his name again?








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holy crep lois! i'm in a whole nedder cartoon!



am I meant to know what whole nedder is?



"whole nedder" = "whole nother" = "another"



literally nobody says 'nedder'. 'nudder' I could understand, but not 'nedder'



It isn't a word, rather a textual transliteration of the dialect in which Peter Griffin speaks.



I'm talking phonetics. Nobody pronounces it 'nedder'.



Peter does.


___ points



provide video evidence or I will maintain my assertion that he says 'nudder'






he clearly makes an 'o' sound, saying 'another'

I don't know what kind of fucked up district you come from where your e vowels sound like that



It sounds like he's saying "a nether".



this is a yanny/laurel situation and you're incorrect










___bog is goblin backwards


thoughts on changing the _ censor to a funny word instead of underscores?


N * i * l * s * o Has A New Name And It's Beautiful


_ns gay


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only children can hear his name now



t. N*i*l*s*o


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Yeah dilb's cool but what about tomtit


yeah tomtit's cool but what about dilb


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God money I'll do anything for you

God money just tell me what you want me to

God money nail me up against the wall

God money don't want everything he wants it all


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Hat like a troll

Black as your soul

He'd rather die than give up a role.

Bow down before the one you serve.



>he didn't record the next Four box sets

It's so unfair bros ;_;


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>he recorded the first four box sets

It's so unfair bros ;_;




Coming soon from Briggs Finish productions

The War Doctor, the Early years



If you sum all actors that worked for BF, 38% are dead right now



Jake Dudman



Biting my tongue from making the obvious reply.



there'll be a few more points on that in a few days, screencap this


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A curious parallel between today's two main entries is that they both involve links to the work of another writer. It's almost as if they were cleverly ordered this way on purpose, but I wouldn't be the one to ask about that. There is also more to feast upon for anyone who can't get enough of Time Lord incarnations based on real world actors.


Friends, Lovers or Nothing

>by Nacho

What if the Mary Elizabeth Winstead Doctor had another story after ‘Perfect Authentic Cadence’, but from a different author’s hand?

Framing Story: Part 7 - Let Them Breathe

>by Neo

The Revolution Games

>by Morphant

What if the Shabogans led a coup against the Council of Time Lords in a story featuring a Sarah Bolger Rani and a Tilda Swinton Doctor from the far future, connected to but set before the ‘Course Correction’ and ‘Nacho Doctor’ stories from this anthology?

Read, enjoy, discuss, reflect, shitpost.

Got questions about a story? Was there something you thought was GOAT? Memeyness that made you laugh? Let us all know.

If you wrote a story and you want to answer/ask questions in authorial capacity, consider a temporary trip.

Make it obvious which story you're posting about, & browse sensibly if you don't want to get spoiled on any stories. Hide this post with Filter -> Post+ to hide all replies.

Out of the loop but want to jump in?

Get Shit Trips: Volume 2.5 here:


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That %100 are dead inside already?



by the way, any link for today's release



It might be a growing problem for Briggs Finish, a lot of their actors are quite old.

They had to cancel Jago and Litefoot, which was quite popular, due to that.

I wonder how the MR will work once McCoy or Colin passes away.

Also, CC for the first two Doctors are not going to get any easier to write.



tag your spoilers



lol I'm not the one to ask, I've got no interest in the Impersonator Chronicles releases. Since it's a NewWho doc thing I imagine the link will be up within the week on VK and/or ABB.


Interesting idea for different authors to use each other’s fanfic creations, bit of a motif in this anthology really. I prefer the more standalone stuff by both authors but certainly an interesting exercise.


BF have been looking at phasing out the main range anyway; once one of the triumvirate goes I imagine the other two will just fork into their own solo ranges. The stuff they're doing for the first two Doctors is more acclaimed than the stuff they're doing for 5/6/7 so I'm not worried about that.





>Also, CC for the first two Doctors are not going to get any easier to write.

He got Bradley, but he is on the edge



Why do you think that they've got like 4 or 5 series of Tom stories lined up already? We've got his current range, the range with a new companion and then two more with them already confirmed. It's like they're rushing stories through with these people, isn't it? Trading off good stories for easy stories just so you can fill this void with Tom audios isn't what I'd do, but I don't really care for Tom's audios anyway. He's already got 7 series of 4th Doctor audios already and I couldn't tell you how many good ones there were from that selection on one hand.



Very few and nearly exclusively from the same writer.



Some of them sound legitimately interesting but I'm only taking that from the titles (Last of the Colophon, Requiem for the Rocker Men, The Silent Scream, Destroy the Infinite and Return to Telos), so they could be legit shite for all I know. I do remember you saying that The Trouble with Drax is pretty good the other day, but that's one potentially good story out of 30+. Not looking good, yet.



That is why he is branching into "the originals"






And there's no indication that they'll be any better. I saw a lot of hype on Twitter for The Iron Legion but that might've been a writer for BF for all I know.



MR => Main range

CC=> Companion Chronicles, an excellent range in which Bradley does not have a place


I wonder how many series we will get in the end, it's already a huge number of stories. If Tom makes it to 90 or so before stopping it'll be crazy.



They're getting better though, the last 3 series have been stronger on average and the next 3 sound intringuing.



He must have put Dudman to work on all Doctor's voices


In my opinion, Pertwee's two audios (The Paradise of Death and The Ghosts of N-Space) are better than almost all Tom audios.


I've not heard anything of Tom's audios beyond The Crooked Man. I'm working my way through them, and it's almost agony. King of Sontar was just so poor. Best Tom audio has been Energy of the Daleks, and that wasn't even that good. How was the Sutekh stuff handled?



I got the Mary Tamm series

I had high expectations

they were boring af

the David Warner villain om 4 out of 8 does not help

shame wasting Mary's last moments on those


Do you think that Briggs Finish has already done all of its good material possible, or do you think we can still get some genuine kino out of everyone?



You should have noticed the giant red flag of Briggs writing half the season



They haven't squeezed all the kino out of Doctor Who, they've squeezed the kino out of the same overworked writers they've been overworking for too many years. There's a reason their non DW ranges are flourishing just fine.



Yes, 100%

But I am hearing that recent TW were kino

the only appeal for me is gimmicky mashups like River/4th and River + Roberts Masters


What was the last BF audio that you listened to and genuinely enjoyed? Doesn't matter what range it was. Conversely, what audio did you last listen to and think tthat it was dragging terribly?


I can’t get into 4 audios because I don’t like Leela, K9 and Romana 2. Him getting a new companion sounds interesting so I will check that out



Maybe they need a bit of house cleaning and the bringing in of some new blood.


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


I actually saw Jane Slavin in something the other day without realizing that it was her. She's actually quite an alright actress, so I'm sure she'll do ok.



The Invention of Death.

The Siege of Big Ben


That they do, but realistically BF is in large part an old boy's club for mates to do what they love, not an attempt to create lasting kino or really explore their properties creatively.


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Yet another reason why Moffat's writing sucks.



I heard she’s the one that reads Lalla’s lines for Tom when recording Romana 2 audios so there should already be some amiability between them



I enjoyed River's first two.It's been at least a year since i've listened to anything. I thought hurts last set was pretty hard to listen to.



They are good

but there are misteps

some are filler

putting 7th and 6th on the same story was not a very good choice



I agree

even if is a petty complain



>Best Tom audio has been Energy of the Daleks

Nah, a lot of them are better.

Sutekh started very well and was a bit disappointing. However, the rest fo the season was pretty solid.



>but there are misteps


>some are filler

It wouldn't be DW otherwise desu.


I think that the Lost Range have actually been quite good, but I feel that some of them would really have been better served being switched with other stories (especially Animal and Earth Aid). The Elite was actually quite a good story, and it's a shame that it wasn't made for Davison since it's a Dalek story and a non-Dalek story at the same time


Will river met the first 3 impersonators?

Will we have a Roberts Master box set?



>Iron Bright

>The lure of the Nomad


The First and Fourth Doctor box sets are kino


>underated fun romp:

Spaceport Fear


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Wasn't he Roberts Master for like a day? I don't ever remember seeing another story w/ the Master being explicitly mentioned as the Roberts "incarnation". In some of the books the Master appears in, he's already got a different body from some aliens and looks like Basil Rathbone.

tfw no Charles Dance Master



>Wasn't he Roberts Master for like a day?

are talking about IRL recording or the his lore?

He is the Master, he finds a way to survive




bottom right looks like the straight story


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no TVM box




Did Missy have a goatee?



reminder that tardis data core considers this canon



He was decaying

but his was also water snake

I'm sure Briggsy can make up a reason


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it is canon



based beevers



>titles referencing the doctor were few and far between during the classic series

that does not fucking matter


Simon Guerrier gives 1 a gay companion. Steven Moffat makes 1 homophobic. It’s easy to see why Briggs Finish is superior to new who



>Simon Guerrier gives 1 a gay companion




I've had my fill of titles referencing the Daleks, thanks to Classic Who.

Far too many "The Dalek Invasion of Earth", "Evil of the Daleks", "Power of the Daleks", Day of the Daleks", "The Dentist Appointment of the Daleks", "The Table Tennis Tournament of the Daleks" under its banner.

Titles referencing the Doctor were few and far during the classic series (I can only think of The Death of Doctor Who off the top of my head, although I'm sure there must have been more), so why couldn't they take a leaf out of their book?

Then the sixth episode of New Who is called Dalek, and once they take the reins it's never ending.



>It's rather sad that I feel the need to have to say that.

>in his signature

god WHAT a cunt


Cloister, I've seen your PM but i need time to construct a proper response to it and make a case, so to speak



Oliver, he’s a companion in the CCs The Perpetual Bond, The Cold Equations and The First Wave



Technically yes

but the Daleks feel proper ones



It had better be a good one, fam.



Oh it will be.


check twitter





And his stories are GOAT



Sandifer is talented as fuck


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>tfw Liam Catterson and Torchwood Boy are good friends with Sesska

>tfw I could have been friends with Sesska if I uploaded videos of me overreacting to shitty Doctor Who episodes before she started doing them.




<smacking bottom joke here>


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How many a day is too many?



Ok. Because I'm legitimately dumbfounded. I cannot fathom why any of this is going on, why things have devolved to this point and why if there's a problem NO ONE came to me when I asked for reasons or at any time, even anonymously on CC


Still just porn and politics.



I was addressing any boomers or zoomers present, not any Gen-Z-ers in their prime.





*Gen X, fuck, I'm so tired


*Gen X, fuck, I'm so tired~



>not any Gen-Z-ers in their prime

You sonofa-!


Shut up, Judith.



Get some sleep bb.


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good image


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Codol Cavarian


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Avatar still king



Abtap plz go. **inb4 "This is what butthurt haters actually believe"



Abatap rather and i didn't close that spoiler. More than one tired Cloister it seems.


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lovely animanals


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crt are kino now



I hate windows 10 so fucking much desu.


What ever happened to truth? I miss it.



why, it is fucking perfect

(after you disable updates)



it never existed


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*tsssssssssssssssssssssst crack*

now, the zygon inversion….there was a speech……



To me it's a counter intuitive mess on a trad computer id est desktop/laptop. Too much bloat, glitter and flash and slow as fuck. In a nutshell I'm fucking old and it's not what I'm used to. Your tablets and mobiles it's not so bad, cuz those are toys. I have not disabled updates so maybe that's part of the problem.


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now, windows XP….there was an OS….





Ngl, Xp pro was pretty sweet for it's time.



3.1 good

95 meh

95 SR2 good

98 meh

ME poop

XP good

Vista poop

7 good

8 poop

10 good

it is like startrek movies, one good, one poop






>98 meh


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I am craving this


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its pats midnight therefore technically its my first of the day. perfectly okay.




Fuck I miss the dos prompt.

>98 meh

Legitimately loved 98, used it well into my foray into 4chan.


t. about to be banned for no legitimate or defensible reason. <3



>dos prompt.

Is coming back with style



Oh sure, wait until i've forgotten all the commands.


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Did anyone else start laughing at that absurd scene in TUAT where the doctor walks into a room and a Dalek shouts at him “YOU ARE A GOOD DALEK”



Me and my family laughed at the entire episode. It was absolute garbage from the writing to the special effects.



>the writing

proof that sixliners are rtdbads in disguise



I have posts from the day after Boxing Day preserved on 4chan where I limply tried to stockholm syndrome myself into liking TUAT. God it was a nightmare, and coming to terms with that was a painful but necessary blackpilling.



Can you link to some of them?






I mostly prefer the way stories were written in the moffat era, but TUAT was shit. It was written like Moffat was ticking off a checklist.

Plus Chibnall wrote shit first words for Jodie.



>Chibnall wrote shit first words for Jodie.

What would you have preferred?




That seems reasonable to me. I honestly think your hate of it is blowing it way out of proportion, probably amplified by the fact you know you're gonna miss Moff so naturally his last episode will leave a bitter taste in your mouth.



Anything other than Jodie's first take of "Ah, Brilliant".



So, some background on this one: Imm just asked me to write this one day desu. It seemed logical, I had helped him out editing his stuff, he had already written a story for mine. I set to work in May and after I finished this one I forcefully say on my fingers because I was afraid if I kept writing shit I'd be holding up Neo by that point. The only question I asked Imm was whether he wanted an action story or a short character piece. Oh well, taking Imm's doctor to blow up the Rutan homeworld will have to wait.

The opening paragraph is a range of influences: I ripped the lyrical quality from Paul Simon's The Boy in the Bubble(Neo probably knows the track) and the path of the wind idea came from Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time.

The general direction and inspiration infact comes from the John Mayer song namesake, the opening deals with The Doctor's feelings on being merged with Cadence "Now that we are over As the loving kind We'll be dreaming ways To keep the good alive(referring to how the doctor has to remember their humanity

Only when we want is not A compromise I'll be pouring tears Into your drying eyes(a direct reference to Imm's story later)"

And i had fun writing all the meta jokes for that section(3 first doctors, baker and mccoy being 6, an unearthly child having 2 pilot eps shot…)

Then we get to the second act, and I dunno if the twist came off right(she's not talking to the previous incarnations but to her human self) and its all "over the top" drama. I felt that was right to establish legacy and humanity in the character where it wasn't fully fleshed out right. In that regard I went off what was in Perfect Authentic Cadence and used the song as a guideline for the second half of the story starting with the flashback.

I showed Imm the first draft and he did a double take when he read that I made his doctor someone who broke up a family; but that's an important part of Cadence's story:her confidence made her achieve great(in the sense of incredible) things, and her losing it caused her spiral and descent into alcoholism. The doctor is a second chance, and in seeing that she realizes its a second chance to reassess and reconnect to what actually was worth connecting to in her previous life.

But the main lesson between this, Counting Stars and my Foreman story is: don't let me take over your characters. I'll drag them into dark alleyways, beat them up then shake them upside down by their ankles trying to take loose Canon from their pockets. Seriously, I sent the Foreman Doctor on a 5 year quest to murder himself in the past! People got up in arms when Terrence Dicks made 3 do that to 8.



I genuinely won't miss the Moff that wrote TUAT; complete life support writing, the show for the sake of the show, which I hate. I hate it when shows have a perfect finale then extend an episode or two beyond it…Breaking Bad did it, Capaldi Who did it, it really annoys me. If a showrunner I'd 100% support (Harness, Brooker, Ianucci, Gaiman, etc.) had been hired instead of Chibnall I don't think I'd be any kinder to the episode, but I do think you have a point some of the reaction to TUAT is fuelled by the pronged resentment at Moff for leaving and resentment for Chibnall for starting.



>Oh my god I'm a woman now! This is so much better than being a man! Take that, cletuses!

This would've been preferable to you?



No. I do appreciate her first words for the fact they weren't a terrible joke about body parts. It worked well as an observation by 10, but was run into the ground by 11 and 12's didn't even make sense.

It's not supposed to be her recognising that she's a woman, as the leaked clip makes it clear that she doesn't know she's a woman at that point, so I don't know why she said what she said - is she glad the Regeneration worked properly?

I'm not writer so I can't think of any great first words, but perhaps her first words could have waited till her first episode.

Either that or she could have shouted expletives as she fell from the TARDIS.


>yfw 13 screams "At least I'm not a k*ke!" after she regenerates


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>it's a "let's strawman N*ls0 by acting like he'd say this" post


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>_ impersonator anon



Still stuck for background ideas with >>80082 , has anyone got any ideas they'd mind sharing?


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the two tardis interiors tinted red



I'll give it a go and post the results in a bit.


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Leaning toward Sunday night because either TOS or dilb (can't remember which) said that'd work better than Saturday night. Anyone else have thoughts? Morphant and Ingiga rejoin the streams next week I think (maybe the week after).

Am I wrong in saying this is the current situation:

Regular TW streamers who attend most streams, catch up on those we don't:







People following along the list, but not being able to attend most of the streams so far:


Then there are the casual followers who dip in and out according to interest/if they're around on the night (e.g. cheetah_person, skelly, kinda, cats, etc.)

? That about right?



sounds right



won't be attending any TW streams until my earphone problem is sorted




sloaths here



Need any help?


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DMs, CCs and PMs.

/who/ I want to hear what you have to say regarding staff. Especially TOS and Neo. Including nominations, nays and reasons thereof behind them. I'd prefer them in DMs or CC if you'd like to remain anonymous but right now if you have a verifiable identity though, it would be a personal plus for me. Any other recommendations are welcome too. I'm not saying I'm going to make a change but I'd like a better idea as to a heading.



it's a physical issue just don't wait for me on any recent streams



what sorta info you looking for cloiboi


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>mention doing a 50/50 cover

>check twitter the next day

>Overlord's already done it and Hall's already retweeted and liked it

What's the fucking point in even finishing


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I got some spares, shame I can't send them through the screen to you.

Somewhat related: if anyone wants a really good pair of earphones for ~$15-20, pic related (Koss KSC75) are amazing…super comfortable, easily outclass earphones more than quadruple their price, great quality. They're not like $200 audiophile tier, but they're easily leagues and leagues better than everything else below that, whether $5 cheapies or $100 half-measures. Highly highly recommend.



Known staff, trip, name fag, pisspals(streambros) interactions outside of /doctorwho/ that maybe an issue, /who/ might make a good Janny, who wouldn't or doesn't. I'll keep interactions confidential if you wish, but I'd really like to put a "face" to what I'm hearing/reading.


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TOS is a great guy, as a stream admin he's nice and hands-off, as a fellow /who/re he's a sharp, friendly guy who I'm always excited to talk to.



Just go poundland and get their own brand


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

The premise of this is a bit naff, but the editing is good.



>the mixed theme



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i like you neo



I'll take it, but I meant in that instance naming the two of you for your opinions on current staff PM please.


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what is the name of this animilso?


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at least finish it, it's a really nice piece



>not knowing the official /who/ mascot





I'd imagine TOS would be a no-dramas janitor nobody would have any issues with, except maybe that one guy from thoraxtime who crops up every six months or so to complain that CWS requires the twenty seconds of effort to make an anonymous account to post.


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We need

-more saigas

-more dsp

-less _cking


why are people censoring _? what did i miss?



Not really what I was asking lad. Preferred place for a quick private discussion?


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I know you prefer message delayed stuff over live chatting, so Twitter DMs if you'd like?



Live chatting is fine. Are you available to pop in the stream for a few moments?



Yeah sure


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>moff adding pop culture references to a script be like



Are you going for a reference to Nacho for this or are you referencing the scene being cheesy?



Thats nacho cheese



Was just referring to how he heaps them on, I could've went with "RTD adding social commentary" or "Whitaker adding kino".


Things that will improve on s11:









Bradders 100%






-Hoodies twitter reactions

-EXTREEEMIS kid reactions


I'm 65% sure that the Hoodie twitter acc is someone who posts here on the regular



Will Braders steal the show?

Graham Who?



Hoodie comes here more than we'd think but I wouldn't call him a regular. That's my understanding.


Hoodie is the ___ imposter



I'd seen him _posting, so I'd thought that someone who was a reg was manning the account



Oh no, that's totally his real account. He used to be a regular on /who/ back on 4chan so he's familiar with the lingo and everything. He lurks here sometimes and occasionally posts but is discovered quickly whenever he posts hoodieisms.




such as



He has very particular issues with the Capaldi era and gender issues in general; I cbf digging up his last post here from a few weeks back but if you're still interested tomorrow I'll bring up some of his posts. His wiki article might have more.



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>Torchwood listed first instead of Doctor Who


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for children



Genuinely fucking kino, I need more


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that's right - series 11 cannot be improved on. it's flawless.


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Dudman's 11 performance sounds less strained/better but less like 11, where his 10 performance sounds more like 10 but more strained/worse as a performance. IMO. judging from trailers and clips.


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Gotta hand it to Dudman, I presume he's living a Briggs-level dream right now. Getting paid to pretend to be 10 and 11 for a living. Er, I guess Tennant and Smith were literally paid to "pretend to be 10 and 11" too, but you know what I mean.


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N*lso's in a senpaiily shower don't disturb him


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N*ilso's in a senpaiily shower. Do not disturb.



Seriously? I truly think he sounds excellent, almost exactly like Matt, just a shame he doesn't appear to be erratic enough.

Just had a thought, though - Matt may also be less erratic in audio form when he does finally get there, so we might get a slightly-canon "settled", more matured 11. Sort of like 4 (before he started getting in the groove) and 6.


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N*ilso's in a senpaiily shower. pls no disturb.



Stop repeatedly posting this.



He doesn't sound much like Matt to me, like I can tell he's trying to be Matt/11, but it's not like 10 where I could feasibly mistake him for Tennant in some lines.

I agree with what you say about 11. BF would be wise to set the audios in the long stretch between Closing Time and the S6 premiere/finale, where he has settled down more. Moff left a shit tonne of gaps for BF for 11, but that would be my preferred one (actually Trenzalore would be my truly preferred one but I absolutely do not trust BF to do Trenzalore well).


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If you were the real N i l you'd know I only posted the third one


We are absolutely gonna get The Twelfth Doctor Chronicles announced later this year, for 20th BF anniversary celebrations, and they are absolutely gonna make Capaldi even less inclined to do BF.



And why that's a good thing!



Oh fuck, additional thought: it's going to be that god-awful impersonator who does YouTube audios as 12.



I want 12th to keep untouched



i don't think i'd be that enthused if they announced a trenzalore set. i think they should subvert expectations and awkwardly slot his audios into whenever he goes offscreen in an episode.



I hope Briggs does 12s voice



nicholas briggs tries doing the voice and offends capaldi so badly he never even mentions doctor who again



I don't care that you only posted the third one, just asking for them to stop posting.



Craig Ferguson as 12th



I actually agree with Capaldi why 12 shouldn't be brought back for audios or anniversaries, but TUAT poisoned the well so much that I don't care as much as I used to. And Gomez went back on saying she'd never perform Missy again, now she's doing audios, so eh…


Moff literally explicitly went out of his way to make some huge gaps in 11's life for BF (not even just "extended universe media", literally BF), so they'd be insane not to use them. Which they might be.



no that's fucking dumb they should do what i said



>yfw it's gatiss


Thinking about it, I'd have absolutely no qualms if BF just fell off and we didn't get any audios for a few years until someone else - probably the BBC - takes up the gig. I really miss the days when the thought of BF was exciting. Hate to be a boomer, but the NuWho lease ruined it.


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Don't talk to me or my wife's kid ever again



I was at comic con, Capaldi was asked about that.

He does not even want to come back for multi Doctor stories and he is not interested in BF, at all. (They asked him already.)


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In the TW marathon eventually we're gonna get to BBC's 11-audio series of full cast Torchwood audios; we're all very intrigued what non Briggs Finish full cast DW (spinoff) audios will be like. What will be different?

Honestly I shit on BF DW as much as anyone here (more than most I'd bet) but as a company I don't hate BF or anything cause I really do love their other ranges, not just Who adjacent stuff but the Classics, my mum adores the Sherlock Holmes range, etc. The NewWho license fucked up their DW audios but it definitely improved their DW spinoff stuff.


Yup, I've posted about it before here on and 4chan, to mixed reactions. I completely get it and support it, but the fact TUAT was multidoctor and a shit ending mutes a lot of what he was arguing imo.



>He does not even want to come back for multi Doctor stories and he is not interested in BF, at all.

He could change his mind, and an awful portrayal by another "actor" may help or hinder that.


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And that was the guy who used to write a DW fanzine

Some bbc exec should have done something

he is as bitter as Eccles



She lost her virginity but didn't orgasm? Sad.


If anything gets Capaldi to do BF it will be

1) the years mellowing him out (Tom style) and making him more nostalgic about playing 12

2) Gomez (and likely eventually Mackie/Lucas/maybe even more) encouraging him to; getting old and BF seeming like a fun chance to hang out with old cast friends and have a nice lunch together

3) a genuinely great Shearman/Hall level script falling in his lap (this will never happen because BF wouldn't prewrite a script for an actor not signed on, but I think it would actually convince him)

1 and 2 are completely antithetical to the principles of why he doesn't want to do BF/anniversaries, but with age that stuff usually seems less important. We'll (eventually) see either way.



I didn't orgasm when I lost mine.




very important poll, be honest


Surely Moff was embarrassed to hand Peter the script for TUaT? He obviously knows a good story from a bad one, and for it to be his last damn story. You'd at least have TRIED, for the actor's sake?



I suspect TUAT was too handcrafted for Capaldi honestly, not the opposite like you suggest.



In terms of certain additions like the speech and Rusty, yeah, but the fact that it was a story in which, at the very least, hardly anything happened must have struck with Capaldi


>this many non-virgins

What the fuck?



TUaT is perfectly fine for what it is.



This desu


Are we all in agreement that 8's TARDIS hum is the best?



I assume stuff like the Armistice and Brigadier fanservice was pleasing to Capaldi and, if he's come around to disliking TUAT, it happened later after ruminating on why it didn't stick with him like TDF surely does. It's entirely possible it has though.



Forgot my flag



They're probably lying to save face. Everyone knows everyone who've been on /tv/ is a virgin.



It was a fucked up situation and I was insanely nervous and just wanted to get the hell out of a hot closet off a pile of laundry. So I jumped/lunged backward and faked one with some slight of hand. I might have even said "Ta-da" when it was over because I'm autistic.



You should make followup polls, for virgins and chads, asking for their age range (i.e. 18-21; 21-24 etc.)



hence why i said "be honest"

it's anonymous, no one's gonna judge you




>stopping there


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


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>What does et cetera mean


As a Doctor, is there anyone here who values Capaldi/12 as bottom-to-last place if they were to list their favourites?






Honestly think that sort of attitude encourages communal virginity. For homebody geeky sorts yes sex is hard/rare to come by, but it's perpetuating the attitude that that's the norm that enforces that, not really women/men of the outside world, imo. One of my best mates is a virgin and he's a handsome/funny/sharp bloke; it's just because he doesn't put himself out there, it's not a mark against somebody or some massive deal, just a consequence of how much (and yes, to a lesser degree how well, although that's massively blown up) you interact with the gender you're attracted to imo. It's easy to think "the sorts that go on 8chan are all virgins" and it's a self-enforcing cycle that thought-terminates the kind of behaviour that would lead to one losing their virginity. That's my unasked-for opinion.



What do you think people did before the internet?


Sorry. I'm sensitive about ageism.



>2/3 of /who/ have fucked

Impressive desu



>it's just because he doesn't put himself out there,

75% of %95 of virgin's "problems".



It was a fucking trip the first time a student laughed at my age and called me old. Even some hostels I've been at, it feels absolutely fucking absurd to me, but I swear some places are all 18/19 year olds and you feel out of touch. Can't imagine what it's like for someone uh only a year or so older than me, surely.



Yup, just simple maths, if you stay in your home not interacting in person with men/women 95% of nights a year, it is literally impossible for that person to have sex for 95% of nights a year. Yeah there are cases with actual issues but I really do think it's mostly a case of the types to be on the chans and talk about virginity being the types to, uh, be on the chans and talk about virginity most nights a year.



I wasn't being serious…



I believe you, I just see that attitude thrown around a lot (ironically and otherwise) and I think it's worth digging into a bit.



I truly believe feeling out of touch is less about your age and more about the sort of person you are. I'm not claiming you purposely move yourself away from younger/older people, but in my own experience, I've known people in their mid-20s to be very averse to interacting with people ages 18/19, and have a 23-year-old friend whose girlfriend is 18 and best friend is in his late 30s.


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If this chad can get laid then you have no excuse



He looks like a dick. Sadly women only go for dicks instead of nice guys like me.



Yeah for sure, past school everything gets blurred more towards maturity levels than just years (an 18 year old working full time and living on their own is nothing like a 23 year old in their last year of uni living at home; very different life experiences and maturity levels). I did have age difference kind of turn into an issue in one relationship but it was totally just a "where we're both at in life" thing, not inherently an age thing. My dating issues lately have all just been the type of girls I tend to like don't seem interested in someone leaving the country at the end of the year but alas that's my kettle of fish to boil.



I try, but yea things are soooo much different than when I was their or your age. The world has completely changed while everyone watched and no one seemed to notice, least of all me. I'd love to turn back the clock, but fuuuck I don't want to deal with the social paradigms and quagmires that they have to deal with today.


I can almost guarantee that 10% er 10 out of a hundred girls you approach will be up for anything. It's totally a numbers things, especially if you're goal is just getting laid.



Don't worry, you'll find the Trinity to your Neo, uh…Neo.



I had a co-worker and later supervisor that looked just like this dude, I often have to do a double take when you post him whoever he is. Does he have an actual name and not an internet moniker?



Philip Burnell



Yup. I remember when I was in my last long term deal I felt lucky that I'd gotten out of having to deal with so much of how dating/socialising works nowadays, but that was a bust and now I gotta deal with it like everyone else…I hate how the Internet has kind of gamified relationships/people but I do it too. It's a shitty situation.


kek, thanks. You'll find the ymous to your anon.


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which accent is the neutral one, /who/?


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>"well, I guess thats your cross to bear"

Will ChibWho be this kino?



Received Pronunciation




spoiler alert

alpha traits > nice traits



fuck off bougie tory cunt


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new emojis for 2019



nope too



Jesus christ, don't shit yourself



Heh you copied what I said in a thread yesterday <.<



who controls emojis?



Unironically Your own accent is always the neutral one. By definition there is no neutral





I fucking hate the Japanese for inventing emojis



>I hate how the Internet has kind of gamified relationships/people

Some places on the web are definitely better than others, at least locally. I can totally understand why guys loathe but use tindr for instance. I say there's probably quite a market for a "geek/fandom dating app" or one for the socially er different. Forming a good real relationship has to be more challenging though. I'm going to sound like a backwards old man, but swiping words on a phone to hook up is just so disconnected. Nothing beats those little adventures meeting someone for the first time and knowing fuck all about them, even if it ends badly.


Eh…a primary exporter of american "culture" the californian is the standard, arguably the world over.





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What's the longest BF Audio? I'm pretty sure Cold Fusion is at about 3hrs 10min.



> the Japanese for inventing emojis

Dynastic egypt might like a word.



maybe emojis control us



both have same weight

>what is density



Yeah, it's just i've heard Americans refer to themselves as "not having an accent" irl, and that others "have an accent"… it's bizarre to me. Not too hard to find examples online either






Are you actually "muh dick"ing?



How long is Zagreus?



I know people have been using images to convey meaning for millennia but emojis that you have on your phone where a Japanese invention.



3hrs 56min, so it's probably that.




White chocolate is more expensive iirc as it's an extra process or takes more cocoa liqour to make, something to that effect.



To be fair, it took me a long time to realise

English midlands accents were considered funny sounding to most people. I though we were normal, Southerners were posh cunts, and Northerners were just weird.



UNIT Dominion - 4hrs


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to be fair

white chocolate is not REAL chocolate



Zagreus is basically 4 hours, not even counting the interview disc.





Pure chocolate tastes awful though, and the less chocolate you have in chocolate, the better it tastes. Why do we even eat chocolate?



Americans are generally ameri-centric in their thinking. The idea of doing things differently and it being a natural or organic original thing is a pretty hard concept. Discounted or dismissed with "lmao that's crazy"


Like >>80433 said chocolate isn't even real chocolate either.



Hydrogenated Sweet Fat formally know as chocolates



>the less chocolate you have in chocolate, the better it tastes

imagine being this pleb






>there are plebs on this board who believe that chocolate should that smooth diarrhea bullshit that belgium serves up.

No thanks. Mexico does it better than Eurocucks. 80% dark chocolate stone ground and mixed with cinnamon. Little bit of grittiness, a whole lot more flavor.




>I'm badass because I eat things that taste worse

Got over that phase when I was a teenager.



Have you ever had diarrhoea? It's nothing like Belgian chocolate.



You're not allowed to enjoy things, anon.


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based sandifer, BTFOing those nazis



Ikr. I'm so cultured, I don't enjoy a thing I do.


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

It's quite interesting to realise that the David Tennant Doctor was less of a Dr Who and more of a James Bond. The intention was to create a Doctor Who that's available to the masses, and in that sense, despite NuWho being a continuation, it could very well be classed as an adaptation. Had Moffat stuck to the idea of changing the Doctor's personality and deconstructing the nostalgia and lore behind him to make him suitable for the modern era, we might now have a very different version of the show - something akin to what Fox were to produce post-TVM. Vid related because it feels like a contemporary take on the classic Doctor-defeating-the-Cybermen formula.



I do not have irish blood

but my body is 55% made of guinness

so there you go



Sandifer looks like a child's drawing mapped onto a human face, because only a child would choose to have Sonic the Hedgehog OC colours for hair and biro scrawlings on their character's face.


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Why didn't BBC release a boxset like this?



there's a thing called balance. "the less cocoa the better it tastes" is stupid and wrong.



Yeah, but then you eat a milky bar, and realise it's just better.



Good cover



too niche



remove the best selling docs from cover

very clever


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Fez attack!


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>I like white chocolate the best!



>I pretend to be cultured in front of my friends, all the while wishing I was eating whipped cream out of a can, and watching Spongebob



kek this is the way I am but with Doctor Who rather than SpongeBob



whipped cream is flavorless



>tastebuds this dead

I see why you need 80% chocolate.


C'mon Neo its time to blow doors down


Morphant, Neo, with me, to the stream!


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Don't make false invites, Cat Man



One person should own all of the world, and it should be me.



it's certainly time for Neo to blow something


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Move over, Jodie.


would you guys be up for a latina doctor, if she can do a convincing british accent?



>convincing british accent

the doc gave up his peepee

s/he can get up his accent



I don't think they have Doctors.


Rewatching Genesis of the Daleks right now, the mutants use the word "norms" to talk about the ones that are not like them.

We should use it here instead of normies.



no idealogical bias here at all

none whatsoever






2/3 of /who/ are norms


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this is you





I like spicy food though. I don't like meme food that tastes worse than good food.



how does bait taste?



Like worms, I would imagine. ask the food hipsters. They'll know.



Worms aren't the only bait, you know. I used to fish with maggots.



Who would guess you were a fisherman?


come join for music stream and convos :)



Not career-wise, Jow-day. I did it in my leisure and I wasn't very good with it so I didn't continue




were you proud of that when you came up with it?


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It's the original interpretation of the entity Judy from Twin Peaks.







>literally killing the earth with cow farts




>using R/B

Fuckign casual


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Not sure which one I like most



Why can we get this cutie on our fandom



definitely H



E would be my choice


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Thats up to the BBC



I’m sorry, it wasn’t intentional


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Good doctor who

>events happen

Capaldi who

>characters talk about how the events make them feel



Honestly that looks better than the last attempt to show what it would look lit up



implying good doctor who exists



The biggest problems with these shops is that the crystal pillars (particularly the middle one) still have ambient occlusion in all the ridges, which they shouldn’t have if they were emitting light like the photoshops makes them out to be





Other way around.


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Misshapes, mistakes, misfits

Raised on a diet of broken biscuits, oh

We don't look the same as you

And we don't do the things you do

But we live around here too, oh really


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God of small empire

This numb masturbator

Pissing his life into

Plastic and paper

Closing time for life…


Why is there a g in Paul Magrs?


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.





if you could place that g in any other word, where would you put it and why?





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skelly can relate to this


I’m rewatching The Long Game, and a lot of it - the media jacks in people’s heads, the Editor being able to “smell” changes in the information flow, the people being influenced by the media to believe all sorts of ‘common knowledge’ unquestioningly - is giving me strong vibes of the Remote…

Series 1 of Doctor Who takes so much direction from the Wilderness Era that it’s practically the Doctor in the Faction Paradox universe. The Remote vibes in The Long Game and Bad Wolf; the posthumans in The End of the World; the general aesthetic of the War being such a horrific event in the universe’s past, with the Time Lords fighting an unstoppable force until the Doctor was forced to destroy them both; and the vibe of the post-War universe being wrong and somewhat broken with Gallifrey’s absence (cf Father’s Day). Even the Daleks, which you’d never think of as contestants in a war of time and information like the War in Heaven, are defined in their first appearance by their ability to synthesize biodata and download the entire Internet … tell me that’s not something you’d expect in a Faction novel.



Forgot my flag, sorry!


Hal was conceived at a time when artificial intelligence was more of a fictional construct than a practical possibility. Hal is introduced as humanlike because the audience is senpaiiliar with and comfortable with humans, but they aren’t senpaiiliar with or comfortable with living computers. It’s when he starts acting robotic and calculated that the audience realizes “oh no, he’s a computer” and he becomes threatening.

By the time Glados was conceived, we had become used to computer automated systems. Synthetic voices offering us information is something we encounter in daily life. Glados is introduced as a computerized preprogrammed voice because that’s what the audience is senpaiiliar and comfortable with. It’s when she starts acting human and emotional that the audience realizes “oh no, she’s alive” and she becomes threatening.



I probably watch like 2 animes a year tops


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Now the morning passed so quickly and it was time for them to meet

It was twenty past eleven when they rode out in the street

Folks were watchin' from their windows,

Every body held their breath,

They knew this handsome ranger was about to meet his death,

About to meet his death


sesska broadchurch in a few hours

how do you think she'll react to the direction of S2?


skellys here






Don’t forget RTD using the Faction aesthetic with the Sycorax



at first I thought you were going to say the long game reminded you of real life


Are there any novels about the Remote? All I’ve read has been about the Faction and the City of the Saved.



haha no, im not going there. y i k e s


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fucking based!!!!!!!!!


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Actual deleted dialogue from "The End of Time" which proves that the master was in to selfcest long before "World Enough and Time". What do you guys think? I think its an improvement


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post based images related to doctor who


YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.




>why doesn't joe just kill himself

wow sesska wow



I've never watched sesska before and probably never will be but based



those shots at 8:09 and 8:15 are fucking gorgeous


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haven't you watched broadchurch before nilso?



Yeah of course but I felt that those two shots were back to back kino and that they deserved to be mentioned



Spoil me everything about broadchurch in few sentences, please



man the fuck up and watch everything you huge pussy



I dont have the time



if you watched one episode a week you'd finish the show before S11 ends



by that time I could be dead


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is anyone else noticing that their facebook feed gets completely populated by random articles from pages you have literally zero association with? Yesterday it was just random opportunist clickbait pages, today it's some chinese news site. It's like the first 10 or so posts in the timeline are actually related to friends and things you follow, then it shifts to "posts from facebook" and picks whatever bottom of the barrel trash paid for ad exposure



if your normal timeline content has been viewed a certain number of times they start showing you random stuff now

Including videos, sometimes they show videos from the politians I hate, as if they want to show you the other side



I would literally rather be fed political propaganda than "you won't believe what happens next" tier meaningless clickbait. At least analysing it would stimulate me mentally.


RIP Jack Black



>At least analysing it would stimulate me mentally.

it is so low level strawmaning that triggers me knackers 🤬





Something is coming and it means I'm going to change, and I'm not going to see you again. Not like this.



sex change, you as well?


1: Beware

2: Big Dipper

3: No Love

4: Hahaha

5: Eh

6: Whatever I want (Fuck who's watching)

7: Voila

8: Bitch Please

9: Artificial death in the West

10: The Fear

11: Houdini

War: Centuries of Damn

12: On GP

13: Known For It

Improve on this






Yeah sure, give me a moment or ten.


Opened gon-gon style!


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1: Year Zero

2: Welcome Oblivion

3: Pretty Hate Machine

4: With Teeth

The Watcher: Ghosts I-IV

5: And All That Could Have Been

6: Add Violence

7: Beside You in Time

8: The Slip

The Warrior: Not the Actual Events

9: The Fragile

10: The Downward Spiral

Meta-10: Further Down the Spiral

11: Lights in the Sky

12: Hesitation Marks

13: Bad Witch

The Curator: Closure



Couldn't think of a better one for 1,2 and 13 so I didn't include those.

3 - Black Paint

4 - Get Got

5 - Linda's in Custody

6 - 5-D

7 - Up My Sleeves

8 - Takyon (Death Yon)

War - Hahaha

10 - You Might Think / Pillbox Hat

11 - Hot Head

12 - Eh


Looks like it took a literal visit from Paul Magrs to get Obverse to remember that they have ranges other than Black Archive. We'll probably be getting some nice announcements later today.


Another vote for H from me. This looks like it'll be amazing! Very excited to see the final product.


This is a real concern. I think the current hope is that more NuWho actors will become more interested + available around the same time that the Classic talent really hits the full decline.


I'm pretty sure SirAlex or some other Briggs Finish nerd told me that Briggs ultimately decided against phasing out the Main Range.



I'm still shilling hard for a Master Who Main Range.


I'm actually puzzling around with expanding these ideas into something bigger about how the idea of "Time War" in Doctor Who progressed from "State of Decay" through the Virgin novels, then the War in Heaven, then the NuWho Time War. Part of the thesis will be that the change to the NuWho Time War made by "Day of the Doctor" is at least as big as the change between the War in Heaven of the FP novels and the Time War in series 1-6.

(I say "series 1-6" just because of that one line in "The Doctor's Wife"; besides that, it's really just series 1 through the Tennant specials.)

Btw anyone who reads this as some kind of accusation of plagiarism is an idiot. Reminder that Loz "plagiarised" his Time War terminology from RTD


Yknow, I really don't buy this. The only thing the Sycorax and Faction Paradox have in common is the voodoo aesthetic, and that's a common enough trope already. "Loz did it first", maybe, but I chalk this one up to "simultaneous inspiration". (Same as I do most NuWho/FP coincidences, come to think of it.)


Interference. There are also a few short stories in the anthologies that are all about the Remote, most notably PPH's "De Umbris Idearum".



>13: Bad Witch

I am sceptical. Is this just because of the Shit Mirror lyrics?



I just based it all off the release titles, not any actual lyrical/thematic connection.


They're phasing out the trilogies at any rate and when I get my hands on Davison I don't see how they'll continue a main range with just two Doctors. I agree with you about the 50th as an 'iteration' of the Time War that fundamentally changed it again.



N8 can I ask you a bit of a loaded question about series 6? If you're uncomfortable with it I understand.



By all means, ask away.


hey pig



Would you say "Let's Kill Hitler", as a title and premise, has skated by fairly uncriticised, when it may be due a hell of a lot of criticism? Do you think there's a problematic disrepency between how Churchill and Hitler were portrayed in Moffat episodes?



Everyone knows series 6 is a load of absolute shit (well, the 2nd half is) so people don't bother criticising it.



Yeah, You! Hey pig, piggy pig pig pig!



Is this your latest obsession?



When will you give up this premise?

What kind of answer will satisfy you?



If an episode titled "Let's Kill Hitler" aired today, I do not imagine the reaction (or lack thereof) would be similar at all.


When will you give up discussing Doctor Who? It's a topic I'm interested in; there isn't an endpoint where I'll cease being interested in the dynamics at play with it.


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do you think 13s would make a better or worse dildo?


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I got my propaganda

I got revisionism

I got my violence

In hi-def ultra-realism



>If an episode titled "Let's Kill Hitler" aired today, I do not imagine the reaction (or lack thereof) would be similar at all.

An ep where a black woman gleefully announces she's gonna kill Hitler would play fantastically with the anti Nazi crowd.



And? It wasn't released this year, it was released in 2011. It's a piece of completely garbage TV that nobody remembers anymore. It's literally not important or impactful enough to warrant any sort of positive or negative criticism.


was let's kill hitler moff's first foray into clickbait?


I'm thinking of putting my artwork somewhere but I'm not really wanting to extend to Deviantart (it's called DEVIANTart for a reason. Does anyone know of any other good spots for something like that?



That kind of attitude is what enables episodes like it to be made. Acting like subpar episodes released before the current year aren't worthy of discussion is beyond antithetical to a community like this.



unironically tumblr



yes, but it would be followed by a group who would trawl moff's entire history on the internet to find something to fake enough outrage over to try and get him kicked off the show



Sandifer maintains (and I more or less agree, though I wasn't watching Who when it actually happened) that yes, and it was the moment Moff went off the rails and the narrative of Moth as the golden child writer broke.






We all know Hitler is a default scapegoat for real life villain, no other person in current pop shared collective consciousness come closes (even if stalin did worse) not even Mussolini or Nero

The title comes as a joke: what would a common person do if they got a time machine?

or reference to the popular conundrum: would you kill baby Hitler

A title: Lets kill Davros, would trigger you?

so the title per se, are not a problem because it is a quote from a character



does flickr still exist?


Is there anything in the BBC charter about propaganda?



Bad Doctor Who is frequently, albeit not always, more interesting to talk about.



Remember to take your meds.


Remember when S6 was unironically promoted as "one of these characters will die"?



it does



Let's Kill Davros would trigger me. I remain confused as to why he's treated as a villain by the BBC.



How did Moff get around it?


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>it's one of THOSE neo days



I have a lot of things to say in reply to this, but I don't have enough time to write them down, so for now I'll let you know the answer boils down to "Yes, but culture."




we all know government channels lean left



All it takes for evil to flourish is for good folks to do nothing, and how much critical discussion of Let's Kill Hitler's premise has there been?


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>>it's one of THOSE neo days



So the BBC is fine with anti-Hitler propaganda? Why don't any Brits react to that?



It's not a bad shout, really. I'll consider that, but as far as I'm concerned Tumblr is utterly contaminated. Saying that I'm not entirely opposed to the idea.


I've never used Instagram before, so I'm not entirely sure on that. I always thought it was phone-only, but there seems to be a browser version (although I'm not sure if that just syncs stuff up or not).


It seems to. I'll have a look into it.


Are we talking about a joke here or are we getting into personal semantics and positions of morality?


I'm really failing to see what you're going for here, so please enlighten me on the subject.



He's memeing.



The joke here is how Hitler was written in the episode; literally a comic prop. I'm interested by people's complacency with that.



imagine a shitstorm of a pro nazi episode



Is the point you're going for that Hitler is relegated from being a historical figure to a caricature/joke?


Not the angle I think he's going for?



>Why don't any Brits react to that?

Still gun-shy because of the blitz and rationing for a generation or two?


There's pinintrist too, but you're probably not a soccer mom that drives a people carrier.



Perhaps the real joke is how the opposite is seen as perfectly natural by people.


I'm confused as to why Moffat demonising Hitler has remain so unremarked upon.



His point is that he's pretending to sympathise with modern far-right ideas when in fact he actually isn't and will use the "thoughts on occam's razor" defence when people call him out.


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Hittler as a clown is not news


this movie is kinda funny


Stream now



but I'm tired and want to go to bed



Jimmy Fallon's interaction with politics is genuinely interesting; it's incredible watching him (in response to ratings ceding favour of Colbert and the like) attempt political commentary the likes of which he could not be less suited for.


Who is your favourite political leader, either historical or living?


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>Who is your favourite political leader, either historical or living?

Ayn Rand?


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I'd consider her more of a political thinker than political leader, but interesting choice. The Fountainhead reminds me a lot of Hamilton: An American Musical in that I think reading them politically, while obviously intuitive and understandable, ignores their most potent strengths.



Hey! I don't just heap pop culture references! I also heap references to high art, history, science and other pretentious topics as well!


Sorry for not getting to the review section earlier but I wanted to reread everything in one sitting.


There's an insanity reference somewhere. And that's creepy enough for me.

>The Revolution Games by Morph.

Alright, so… Somehow a bunch of my stories became a 9 episode season. Fuckin' sweet!

And actually I love what Morph does here. There's this… American Gods-Gaiman-esque feel to it-the doctor's alien qualities make her feel like a universal force, the rani's character as a usurper is powerful and manipulative and the desperation drips off Dracius as he goes through stages of diplomacy. Those are three great setpieces that are so well characterized-you have a gift for striking characters that feel natural, Morph.

And I feel like your Doctor has the important beats about her- later on characters from her line build off the bones of this doctor here: icy cold opinion of gallifrey, villain sympathy… And so its a delight that she has this sort of… Inaction to her. It establishes the importance of her choice to step in but also a chance to see what an adventure-less doctor could be, which is a fascinating study in and of itself.

At first it seems as though The Rani is at odds between this and her later appearance in the season, but actually the elements are there: charisma, thinly disguised disgust for time lords and the loss of life she sees as simple collateral. The only difference is here she's won and has a PR face on, there she's losing and proves herself a not so graceful loser.

I think there's a lot to like here, but I feel like there's so much to come from this storyline, which is exciting. The difference between me and you in our writing is striking, but I'm very happy that you kick off this "season" with such a quality tale. Thematically it fits in with the ideas I toss around in Stalemate and The Three Doctors, and that's wonderful to be on the same wavelength without me even having mentioned it.

If you end up picking this thread up for as big a story as I think it would be, itd be a treat to read, Morph.




But Rand would not get into Office

it was about removing the government

absence of leaders



That's what I said; she was more of a thinker than a leader.



So I cannot answer my favorite Leader, because it would be: No Leader

but IRL, I dream about Petterson running for Office


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Jordan Peterson?




peterson should stop dabbling in politics and stay focused on helping people with depression and other life issues unfuck their lives


Jesus, Peterson's too much of a meme even for me.



unironically this



He would help more, preventing the state of fucking their life on the first place





I can't take any "man" so vain and insecure as to wear a toupee or get a hair transplant seriously. I'm looking at you Chibnall.



that's the first I've heard of JP doing that



You don't have to hear it. You can see it. He's much more hirstute now, than a couple of years ago. His "hairline" is completely different.



Ignore all his ideas

make fun of his hair

it worked so well in 2016




If you have to put something on your head to feel more relevant, more respected and more confident, I can't believe you have the confidence to believe whatever is coming out of you mouth, no matter how much I may like what you're saying. Put on a wig and feed me my own ideologies and I'd question them desu lad.




take away peterson's politics and there's nothing left



if you had ever looked into him past the 'alt-right' vs sjw clickbait shit you would know that's far from true



fuck off skelly


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Can you not abstract the idea from the speaker?

Everytime you read a newspaper article you google the person's face?



I can yea, but once something is seen or noticed to dismiss it would just be deluding or lying to myself. If I read an article and at the end it it had a photo signed t. Bozo the clown, yea I'd fucking fucking dump it at the end. Same goes for anyone that wears a cowboy hat, pirate hat, tiaras and crowns.



By that logic any person wearing make up is a liar

and by that argument Sandifer's ideas are ruled out by the getgo



>Sandifer's ideas are ruled out

I'm not at odds with that part of the statement at all. She's another whole ball of wax. I can't believe anything she says because I think she's a disingenuous hypocrite or completely lacks self awareness for something long before the transition. As for the lying and make up, Yea if you wear guy liner I'm probably not going to take you seriously either. Read Johnny Depp, any rock star.



If a dude wore a fucking celery on his lapel…



…I completely discount davison's doctor, Yes.



Why do you think Phillip Jeffries says "Why?" to the bellhop (who doesn't seem to be that shocked that someone just phased through the wall while screaming)?



based cloi




or a long scarf

or a multicolored coat

or a question mark jumper

or a edwardian attire


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How can I take serious one person that wears this



Yeah I hate costumey Doctor get-ups. One of my least favourite JNT holdovers.



Some might describe the doctor as a bit of a clown, so I don't really see where you're going with this. They're also a fictional character on a children's show. Also said fictional character is an alien that travels in a blue time machine. If he wore say a brown suit and trainers I'd discount them too in that case.


I can't. Cosplayers are silly people.


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There's nothing wrong with the 8th Doctor's outfits.


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Moffat isn’t the one demonising him he’s been demonised for 70 years. Have you seen any other British television where nazis or Hitler are mentioned?




That if we follow this line, we will never find a perfect person to be your candidate

politics is about getting the one that fits you the most (or the lesser of 2 evils) and Peterson is most fine by me



So it's okay to do something as long as everyone else is doing it? Doesn't that sound exactly like Nazism?



I wish you were on the convention and asked ths to him


Please don’t make fun of the man who caused World War Two and the Holocaust



What? There's plenty of candidates out there that don't wear wigs, ridiculous head wear, vegetables, funny scarves and anachronistic gear. I literally have no clue how you could have concluded that.


Reminder 7 had a Nazi companion.



they should do that in the show. it would be based



7 had a companion that was a refugee from an aborted timeline you mean



Why not a Nazi Doctor? Moff had a point when he said the show has to appeal to Brexit voters; don't British NeoNazis deserve representation as well?


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I agree. The Doctor taking someone with a fucked up ideology and showing them via example and tutelage that there's a better way would be a fantastic character arc.



That's a very liberal response.



Stop posting already, for fuck's sake



SJWs would only watch the first episode and decree it bigoted and have the writers jailed for hate speech



They coped just fine with the Doctor showing Grant a way out of a fucked up ideology.



The fine line is the fucking NAP

the nazis used force to get the joos and into the outher countries

so they they can be made fun off

brexit just want indepedence and close borders, not help others does not equal attack others

brexit representation yes

nazi representation no

if neonazis would pay the refugees to leave, fine

just no violence



Can you remind me who that is?



Reactionary SJWs or conservatives don't really watch anything anyway. They just react.


Unironically this.


neo can you pop into the stream for a moment



>if neonazis would pay the refugees to leave, fine

judy you fucking socialist

where would they get all this FREE MONEY??????????



voluntary funding



The Doctor has championed plenty of figures that engaged in large scale violence. Moffat, for all his faults, had an open and genuinely affirming clarity in recognising the show shouldn't just be made for those with baseline politics most similar to how it usually is. It's nothing specific about Brexit, that was just the example he chose for a dividing issue the show (in his view) shouldn't become exclusionary about. In the interest of fostering understanding and civility, I don't see why extending that to currently more controversial arenas should be shunned.



The Ghost/superhero from Mysterio.


One of the most hilarious 12 dialogues imo.




but he never did (I think) the first strike

and yes, who did the first strike matters


If the Doctor had gone into his adventure with the mindset of "Let's Hug Hitler" instead of trying to kill him, he could have caused some real change and maybe even stopped the Holocaust.



Don't forget that who wanted to kill that was a Black Woman



The Nazi VNA explains the doctors reasoning for not stopping Hitler is that Hitler was unstable and that a stable leader might have won WW2



I miss 12 so fucking much.


If someone would have just appreciated his art it might have done something. I think a "Hitler and the Doctor" would be a good episode, but instead of vincent make it a happy ending.



I'm unsure of the narrative need to qualify it with action in that sense. The Doctor literally hugged Churchill after all, and that episode restricted 11's suggestions for Churchill changing his behaviour/methods to episode-specific original issues (Ironsides).


The Doctor himself? Arguable. Those he's interacted with in less-than-negative attitudes? Doubt it. More to the point, some would argue that, specifically in the current alternative political climate, Antifa and the like made the first strike.



Black River Song was the one who wanted to kill Hitler

11th went there because he was being forced at gun point, any other doctor would not go

would find a way out or get the bullet

11th went there because he was curious or he was coward

yes, antifa are making the first strikes

verbal strikes do not count

only physical ones



By the way, If you're looking to see more from the Hitler on "Preacher"don't actively hate John Cusack, "Max"(2002) is a fantastic film regarding hitler's art.



The Doctor marrying a woman who tried to kill Hitler is a political statement of endorsement whether intended or not. Are you comfortable with that?






Now we are getting somewhere


Please try and simplify what you're trying to get across here, Neo, because you're making little to no sense.




Why Hitler Bad and Churchill good

if both were warmongers

Hittler made the first strike



It's a bit of devil's advocate and socratic method with a bit of bait I reckon.


I'd like Churchill to stick his Church between my Hills if you know what I mean.


i havent forgotten about your pm cloister, a response is 'in the works', like nilso at the slab factory



Because the show is made through a British view on history. I was never taught about how Churchill fucked the Indians up, and instead was taught that he was GOAT-tier and fucked the Germans up. British pop-culture (and I'm not talking about 2018 pop culture, I'm talking about 40's to 80's) has always taken the piss out of Hitler through several TV Shows, Radio shows and parodies. Just look at Dad's Army - it's set in the last years of WW2 and there's at least 2 or 3 Hitler/German jokes in every episode.

Remember that history is written by the winners, who cover up their own deeds while painting everyone else in an incredibly negative light.


so are we all agreed that the malevolent nilsoposter is cats, then





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>"This isn't a show…for progressive liberals; this is…for people who voted Brexit"



>Remember that history is written by the winners, who cover up their own deeds while painting everyone else in an incredibly negative light.

yeah they really did a number on that hitler guy didn't they? made him look like a total villain



People like Moffat have the power to address that and to a degree change it amongst what viewers they get, especially the younger ones. The show was originally designed for education after all. Some would say he squandered that power.


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Can't have it all, Neo.



Chibnall sounds more interested in signalling politics he wants to spread.


TOS, would 3 hours before now be doable for you on an upcoming night for TW? I'm guessing not based off the whenisgood but thought I'd ask since that's more dilbert's time and it'll just be you/me/maybe not sloath unless they've got their headphones by then/dilbert if possible next time.



I don't think thats fair to put on Moff though. Moff's not an educational writer by trade, he's a comedy writer that specializes in absurdism-that puts him at complete odds with telling a nuanced take on a serious political moment by the character of his writing. I mean, look what he did to "The Virgin Queen" and "The Moon Landing" as concepts. Square peg, round hole.


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>Moffat's not just a good writer of standalone eps, he's a good showrunner too actually!


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wow nilso wow



I said I'd give this a serious response, so here it is. I wrote it in one go and haven't proofread, so let me know if I say anything too

>Would you say "Let's Kill Hitler", as a title and premise, has skated by fairly uncriticised, when it may be due a hell of a lot of criticism?

The title is an unabashed clickbait non sequitur for an episode that completely fails to engage with the classic moral dilemma about using time travel to kill Hitler and then accidentally unwriting, idk, everything good from history or whatever. Instead of "The Fires of Pompeii" with Hitler, we got a random, melodramatic storyline about River Song.

(I'm actually really curious about when Moffat invented the "Mels" chapter of River Song's life. I expect it was fairly late in the game, seeing as he passed up the PERFECT chance to introduce her in "The Big Bang". Without that background, it's kind of impossible to see the whole character of Mels as anything but contrived.) (Reminder that Mel Bush is the real GOAT backstory for River Song)

Aaanyway, there might be something redeeming to be said here about subversion of audience expectations and that beautiful buzzword "audience hostility", but I don't feel comfortable enough with my grasp on that term to use it in conversation.

>Do you think there's a problematic disrepency between how Churchill and Hitler were portrayed in Moffat episodes?

The other day I read this interesting little essay by a Civil War vet (from the Union Army), written around 1900. The writer discussed Oliver Cromwell, who was despised after his death to the extent that his corpse was dug up, hung, and beheaded, but now Cromwell has a nice statue looking at the Houses of Parliament; then he talked about the Civil War a bit, and he concluded that like Cromwell, Robert E Lee would stand the test of history and have a statue in Washington DC by the year 1960. It's a pretty entertaining read, especially considering what happened in Charlottesville last year.

It may be impossible to tell how history will stand on Churchill, but we can look at the facts about his life, just as we can look at the facts of the life of every senpaious historical figure. Lincoln was a white supremacist; Martin Luther King Jr was a serial adulterer; Gandhi told Jews to willingly offer themselves up to the Nazis. But their reputations seem to have held up fine, and I expect series 11 will gift us with sympathetic or even glorifying coverage of at least one of those figures, rather than turning it into any kind of a "teaching moment".

It's pretty clear how history has decided on Hitler, and I'm glad we're at the point where Moffat can turn him into a slapstick character (next in a long line of slapstick renditions of Hitler) without there being any controversy whatsoever. As you could tell from Godwin's Law, the entire West has agreed that Hitler and Nazism are the Worst Thing Ever.

… or should I say, at least half of the West. America seems roughly split between that perspective and the one that sees Stalin and Communism as the Worst Thing Ever. Of course, Doctor Who has senpaiously addressed that latter perspective in the wonderful short story "Closing the Account".

One way or the other, we've all known for a hundred years that the Doctor is completely ethically inconsistent, and it's no surprise that Moffat continued that trend. I keep coming back to that one post that said the Doctor's name can only be heard by children because they're the only ones naive enough to accept it. I'm not really sure how to wrap this up so I'm just going to stop typing here.


To be fair, the "Virgin Queen" joke was RTD's.




>Closing the Account


Fuck's sake, man




Let's Kill Hitler is one of the insenpaiously early drafts rushed into production (like TWORS) so I fear Mels seriously might not have even been thought of as far as S6A.




It took me 5 minutes to realise this isn't actually a word.





What the fuck, why is i * n * f * a * m * o * u * s * l * y wordfiltered lmao



It contains "f*a*m".



Its insenpaious


smh desu senpai Nilso Nil Briggs Finish



honestly the Briggs Finish filter annoys me, especially if we're talking about Gary Russel era BF



Would you like an older BF then? I'm available.


I’m senpaiiliar with the word filter for ‘senpai’, but I don’t understand why normal words like senpaie and senpaiily have to go through this. senpai senpai senpai senpai senpai



Why are we supposed to believe James Corden was going to fit in a cyber suit?



He was gonna do a Kilgarrif



Because the filters were lazily added as a joke a while ago and haven't been removed due to apathy. They don't actually get triggered that often.


Coming soon from Briggs Finish Productions

Let's Kill Hitler Chronicles



lol, never noticed this dude was Corben



Who's Corben?

You're pretending you didn't know that was Corden, right?



I knew he was the dude that replaced Craig Ferguson

that is a fucking shame

because Cragie never had Capal as Doctor on his show and never cameoed on DW



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I bet it's Friend from the Future.



Oh god. That's gonna make her think Bill will be terrible.



Then she'll be well informed for the series ahead.







What's the fucked up ideology and how did the Doctor help him escape it?




Encouraging/empowering him.

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