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Antique Memes

Recently, some very unique memes have been drawn to my attention.

1) Under Chinese Zodiac, 2016 is the year of the fire chimp.

The contention is that 2016 is the year that sub-Saharan will burn, in some way. Anger, literal fire, exhaust their efforts…

2) It seems that there are a number of ancient gods that hold similarities with some memes.

One example is the Egyptian god Kuk/Kek. This could be interpreted as cuck, or kek, but most likely both. It takes the form of both a frog, and a frog-headed man, just like how Pepe is depicted as both. Specifically, what this meme will do is unclear.

What these have in common is that they are memes that are not ones we created, so they may not necessarily share our intents.

If any of this happens, that would make my question very important:

Do 'old memes' possess power that creates events of today like a delayed spell, or are they power sources that may be tapped into for new magick?

I suspect it's the latter which is true,, and I'd like to expand on this idea more.

If that's the case, it stands to reason that they are limited by their own semblance. By that, I mean that we can only use it for magic that is based on a reasonable interpretation to the meme we are tapping into.

For example, it would be unreasonable to interpret 'year of the fire chimp' into thinking that interpreted that Twitter is going to go bankrupt, but the interpretation that sub-Saharans will burn in some literal, or non-literal way is quite reasonable.

This also draws into the point that chimps do not explicitly refer to sub-Saharans in a literal sense, but because it is a slur to describe them. This slur is a meme. Can memes be used to bridge the gap in interpretations? If there was a meme that mostly Africans use twitter, then the twitter interpretation would seem less unreasonable. It is stiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>15

>From that, I suspect that there can be at most one bridging meme between a tapped meme, and an implementation meme.

That seems kind of arbitrary. It would make more sense that realistically, at most one bridging meme can be used. Maybe it's more to do with decaying power over the 'circuit', based on the number of bridge memes, and how deep they run within our society.

>>19

We could pick a random individual who's fairly well known to the public and meme them into a courageous,noble individual for justice.

The thing about sex/masturbation to memes is that for one thing it basically makes you a slave to the meme, since you begin to associate it with pleasure.

Secondly it yields unpredictable and often dangerous/disastrous results. Ebola eventually started to spread through sexual memes, but we still haven't measured the consequences of the human psyche and spirit. With standard memes there appears to be a possibility for madness, but the will appears to remain intact with minimal weakening.

Thirdly, This is where my own experience plays in. Sexual thoughts/energies regarding fantasies and such, I would rate as extremely dangerous. Changes in psychological thought processes and regular thought patterns, also emotional changes and the perception of the self is altered. Standard memeing such as with bane posting can also alter perception of the self and therefore alter the self but that can be controlled and more easily defined.

If we ever meet up irl and set up some kind of guidelines or something for this I would immediately vote to outlaw the use of sexual energy in memeing until further study in a controlled environment can be conducted.

>>19

>>20

>So in order to be highly successful a meme either has to be truthful enough for many to absolutely believe it or a funny enough lie to make people ironically give it thought.

>The more well defined the meme the more accurate the reality shift. But to define a meme well is hard.. very hard.. The only instance of it, that I know of, is bane.

This ties into the idea of improbability as a scale for the 'cost' of meme magic.

I like the premise. It might even be worth first just limiting ourselves to trying to figure out how to create memes. Forced memes work, but they often require a LOT of shilling. If we could trick redditards, or even just apathetic chan users into spreading memes for us, that would give us more time to focus on designing memes more carefully.

>The thing about sex/masturbation to memes is that for one thing it basically makes you a slave to the meme, since you begin to associate it with pleasure.

>Sexual thoughts/energies regarding fantasies and such, I would rate as extremely dangerous. Changes in psychological thought processes and regular thought patterns, also emotional changes and the perception of the self is altered.

Interestingly, literature and fiction about magic often associates magic derived from sex as volatile force that takes its toll on people.

>I would immediately vote to outlaw the use of sexual energy in memeing until further study in a controlled environment can be conducted

I think when we get better at constructing memes, we should try to spread some sexual memes on porn sites to get the degenerates to burn their loosh for us to see if it's possible to focus it.

>>27

>I think when we get better at constructing memes, we should try to spread some sexual memes on porn sites to get the degenerates to burn their loosh for us to see if it's possible to focus it.

>>27

>I think when we get better at constructing memes, we should try to spread some sexual memes on porn sites to get the degenerates to burn their loosh for us to see if it's possible to focus it.

I think its clear that is already being done through interracial and anal porn..

To argue with a fool is to be dragged to their level… I think this is similiar.. You plan to fight them on their turf… which in itself is a victory for them…

>>17

>>22

Discussion in the 'standard meme model' thread says that the more improbable a meme is, the more power is required.

[RE: Baneposting]

>It is possible that global thought of plane crashes contributed to this, or even the fact that there were plane crashes 'normalized' it to a certain extent, making it less of an extreme change to reality to add one more. If we think of 'the casting requirement' for memes at least partly in terms of how unlikely the circumstances it creates are, this makes a lot of sense.

It's tricky. If we choose something unlikely like a desert, we can be more confident that we are right, but we also may be 'understaffed'.

Maybe we should have a few iterations. First try the desert, then work our way down if necessary.

>>22

That's a good point. Book genre should be included.

I've updated the questionnaire to the suggestions ITT.

I also added age and gender. I may switch age answers to be brackets, rather than your actual age to help protect anonymity. Obviously more data is better, but age probably isn't a factor that is sensitive enough to require precise numbers for analysis.

I think the way to submit will be that we make a special thread for it, and people post their answers 1 line at a time. I'll write a script to scrape answers so I can feed it into R.

Secondly, I've thought about the location we're going to do this in. >>17 has suggested a dry area so the effect is more noticeable. What we really need is a place that has accurate and frequent rain measurements. Monthly would be good. Fortnightly would be great. Weekly would be excellent. The area should also have a relatively consistent amount of rainfall. Not necessarily consistent all year round, but consistent year-by-year. By that I mean the March (for example) rainfall should be fairly similar for most years. The closer the better. The lower variability, the more likely we are going to find results.

That is by far the most important thing because I need to be able to look at the difference in rainfall and see if it's scientifically significant.

Another thought is that it would be good if the area had a fair amount of photos on the internet, so we could more easily visualize it. I think over the week leading up to when we start visualizing, people should familiarize themselves with the area with google maps, streetview, and photos.

I'll do some research and pick a spot in the next couple weeks.

I hope to start collecting recruits soon, but I want to have the questionnaire done first.

>>13

>What if ideas were viruses

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memetics

>The Journal of Memetics was published electronically from 1997 to 2005

http://cfpm.org/jom-emit/all.html

>List of all JoM-EMIT Articles

http://www.practicalmemetics.com

One idea that has been brought to my attention is the concept of the "amygdala hijack". It sounded a bit like bro-science when I first read about it, but I did some research and I'm convinced. It's more of a theoretical piece, but he does share some examples.

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/touching-the-raw-amygdala-part-i-foundational-understandings/

Here's a more recent example that we can all remember:

http://www.anonymousconservative.com/blog/donald-trumps-latest-amygdala-hijack/

From what I can understand, it's a means to trigger an intense emotional response from someone while simultaneously making the outburst seem unwarranted due to subtlety and/or plausible deniability (which probably amplifies the response I would suspect). This is exactly what we want for our purposes, so I think this is worth looking into.