/dota2/ - Dota 2

practice practice practice.

get better at the game. you're not at 2.5k for no reason.

for me I played a shitload of unranked. learned the game better. climbed to 4k. hovering around there now, need to work on my map awareness and early movement and farming patterns. not to mention trying to climb on useast is hellish due to consistent server failure and the combined failures of NA players and the peruvians that plague useast for unknown reasons.

for the uninitiated: your calibration matches don't matter too much. your ranked mmr is strongly based on your unranked 'hidden' mmr, and even winning all of your calibration games won't make a shitload of difference, you'll probably be stuck within 500 of your unranked mmr.

Thing to realize: there is no "one simple trick that local player found, dendi HATES him!"

That said I think there's one piece of advice that will take you farther than any other: be a leader. Tell your team what to do, but do it nicely. Accept responsibility for your mistakes. If people are missing, call it, even if its not your lane. 95% of human beings are just looking for somebody who has a better idea of what they're doing to tell them what to do and how to do it, and this includes dota players.

raising your mmr will take time and practice, though to tell the truth you'll probably easily hover around the same mmr with little effort (see: ixmike), you have to be pretty bad to consistently tank mmr (like 500-1k worth), as evidenced by the shitloads of complete retards that you'll see even on 5.5k streams (some of these may also be bought accounts, I'm not sure. I met a 5k guy recently who's total ass at the game but brags that hes 5k, he belongs at like 4k, if that)

or just play jugg/slark/void

>>1270
>you're not at 2.5k for no reason
i just told you the reason. i sucked when i first started playing and that was 2.5 years ago. i dont think i'm great but i'm better than 2.5 . you've got peruvians i've got the whole eastern europe

>be a leader. Tell your team what to do, but do it nicely
i could go on 10 pages about how its not possible but i can summarize it. russians
how is hidden mmr calculated? i'm thinking about creating a new account. i'm almost
2.9 now but it's not worth the headache.

>or just play jugg/slark/void
tried that. nobody picks sups @ 2.5k

>>1277
>750 hours of playtime
that's honestly peanuts

http://www.dotabuff.com/players/83347409
not me, but the guy's got 6k+ mmr. He played dota 1 before 2.

approximate 30-60 minutes per game, ignoring all dota 1 experience, he has easily 6000 hours of dota 2 played.

and even he isn't perfect. he makes mistakes. so does arteezy, so does loda, so does ee.

You can raise your mmr, you just need to work at it, and i do mean work

>>1278
I never said 750 hours was anything to brag about, but at the same time, it isn't nothing. You're kinda beating around my point, here. OP is asking how he can raise his MMR with a bunch of nutjobs on his team, which I'm sure we've all seen, is sometimes pretty hard to do.

Maybe things were different before Lycan was nerfed, but unless you play like a god, you'll lose most of your games, thanks to Peruvians.

Good luck finding a team that speaks English, understands roles, doesn't feed, or even knows how to use their spells, because nobody else ever seems to find any.

OP, I'm with you here.

I am absolutely the best player on my team 100% percent of the time, no questions asked. I am in 2.1k MMR, and I have fundamentally more knowledge than everybody I play with.

My problem is that I am an extremely busy person, and the proportion of time spent watching guides and time spent playing Dota is fucked up.

I simply don't have time to grind out games like neckbeards

>>1269
all you have to do is watch how arteezy plays naga in pubs. Now practice that in a few bot matches, try to get radiance at 20 min lastest and then split up your illusions like arteezy. You will be easily going to 4k and if you are any decent in micro/map awarness and stuff you might just hit 5k like me. (Although I did with DP and supports, before pros figured out that euls is more important than hurr durr bloodstone first.)

>>1366
bloodstone dp is literally shit

if you don't have the mana management to get by with a euls on that hero there's no reason you should be playing mid

Just pick Troll Warlord and take safe lane farm.
Go 1-4-1-1 skill build, then 1-4-4-1.
Build an early Ring of Basillius then phase boots before you upgrade your basi, next up you want a helm of the dominator.
Farming is easy on Troll, as melee form gives you bonus damage, life and armour, while ranged form can harass.
Once you have HotD dominator and at least 3 points into your passive, dominate an Alpha Wolf or a Ogre Frostmage, buy smoke and take Roshan (this should be about 12-18 minutes in). Please note some heroes on the enemy team can make taking roshan difficult (I'm thinking specifically of Zeus) so you may have to time it.
Next on the items you want to build a Sange and Yasha, because it gives troll everything he needs, Speed and a Slow to kill everything. From there you can build either a BKB, Butterfly, MKB, Manta Style, or BoT next, depending on their team (98% of the time you will want a BKB because Slows, Disables and Silences are the reason you will die.)
I have been following this build from about 3.2K mmr and now I am sitting at 3.9K and the games are still easy, with Troll being the only hero I have ever played where I can walk into 1v2s or 3s and still have a good chance of winning.
Things to remember - Spinning axes give vision, especially ranged form.
Melee spinning axes deal good damage and give 60% chance to miss for 7 seconds, combine this with a Butterfly and a BKB to become invulnerable in the fights.
Troll does his best at taking out one target in specific in team fights, typically you want to BKB up and focus down either their heroes with the team fight spells or just their biggest spell caster in general, then take out their carry.
Keep the Ring of Aquila for as long as possible, you have 1 int gain per level.
Never let an Axe get close to you, take him down in range from if you have to.
As soon as you have phase boots the enemy hero will be easy to kill, as you can slow him with ranged form whirling axes, swap to melee and whirling axes again, then activate phase boots and attack him down.

>>1270 here,

Recently I hit 4k (nearly 4.1 now, after dropping back to 3.8 twice, what a fucking roller coaster of peruvians) and I want to share a bit more of what I did to accomplish that. I don't abuse Earth Spirit and I don't tend to pick into the flavor of the month. Mostly I play what my team needs (which in pubs overwhelmingly becomes support, but if my retards aren't picking heroes I pick myself something for the offlane, quite often undying)

For one, I've watched a lot of streams. I don't think that this helps vastly, but you can learn small things, such as how EE creep skips as AM/Naga, but to be honest, watching the streams won't accomplish your end goal of developing your skills to the higher levels.

When I decided I wanted to improve, I picked a hero. For me it was Storm Spirit. To me, any hero that can reasonably buy a bloodstone (shoutout to >>1367 DP's not a bloodstone hero, but Storm, Timber, Leshrac) is just fun. Especially the more mobile ones. Spend mana, do damage, regain mana.

At this point I was still ~3.2. I'd calibrated around there and rebuffed the idea of playing ranked for stupid imaginary number points, who cares about them, pfft, not me. It's full of retards just like normal matchmaking anyway, what's the point?

So I picked storm in unranked pubs. Fiddled about with the hero, built things I'd seen BlitzDota and others build on him. Didn't do amazingly, but learned the basics of how to play the hero and what he's weak against/strong against.

Then I started watching other people play it, from their perspective.

I'd load up the "watch" tab, go to the first game with a storm spirit in it (sometimes the second or third if they were far earlier into the match, good to get eyes on how to lane a hero early, especially a mid hero) and watch, from their perspective, what they were doing.

The spectate function isn't perfect and I'd love to see some QoL improvements to it, for just this purpose, but seeing what they see and what they do and how will vastly improve your own play. There are minor tricks to playing a lot of heroes that you just don't realize until you see someone who KNOWS the hero play it. It's not obvious to everyone to use EVERY overload charge you can, or what you can do to best accomplish that, but when you see other people execute it, you learn.

It really improved my gameplay in general. And for reference, after the 100th or so lost game because on my team people would say "lmao go play ranked if you want to try so hard" I finally did and I managed to climb pretty fast. Didn't have to play storm every game to climb, improving on that one hero gave me a better knowledge base about the game.

TL;DR watch games from player's perspective, see what they do, think about why they do things

>europoor
>play on EU west
>started out with almost 3k mmr
>almost got 4k
>valve started actually separating teams based on language
>suddenly started getting massive losing streaks
>team mates never use communication while Russians are clearly communicating well
>now at 1.8k mmr
It hurts to live

>tfw 9 game winning streak into a 9 game losing streak

If this isn't evidence of forced 50% I don't know what is.

>>1286
>filename
Kekkled my shackles

Just don't play ranked. I'm not sure why it is, but I can only find good players in unranked and only shit players in ranked. Every time I've played ranked I've consistently been the best on my team while everybody else avoids picking support, insta-locks easily countered heroes like Sniper, feeds, pushes alone, runs away from teamfights we can easily win while bitching that I died, stacks UAMs, reports me for not helping them when they jump into 1v5s, accidentally use their ults with no enemies nearby, yells into a £5 mic… you get the point.

Your team will drag you down unless you're some sort of god. MMR doesn't matter because it's down to who you end up with, not how you play.

>>1992

I can't believe people still build that on Jug, PA, or Void.

>>2000
>Wasting 2k this hard

Bet you think Battlefury is only used for farming.

I managed to climb above 3k mmr by essentially picking tidehunter every game, but unfortunately I had a heavy loss streak afterwards.
my personal advice is learn to play one hero for every role and see what is needed.

silencer got me to 3.6k

haven't played ranked for a while though