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i can't even talk about how insane these changes are

the absolute. madman.

Yeah, these changes are fucking crazy. Weaver and Morphling are OP and I don't know how I feel about some of these items.

I'm a bit miffed about some of the changes they enacted such as hex no longer negating evasion, but overall I like this new update.

>>2299

jesus fucking christ ripper jew

weaver is not op, he was barely changed. swarm was buffed because it was a weak spell on a hero with shit attributes. other than that he was barely changed except the aghs, which is still far from being too strong (need to buy an aghs on weaver, really not very good)

morph wasn't even buffed. the adaptive strike change is actually a nerf. Hybrid isn't that good 90% of the time. The only time I can really see it being terribly good is with a terrorblade, as an offlane morph, but still you have to farm a fucking aghs on that hero.

Heroes that MAY have actually been overbuffed:

Brood's bite not being a UAM might be problematic

Clinkz has gotten a lot of good buffs lately, so we'll see. I'm not sure he's actually TOO strong.

Enchantress is gonna be strong. Especially given some of the new item changes. But I can't predict all of the interactions with those yet.

Kunkka… has been buffed a lot lately. But he's still so high skill ceiling and difficult to execute that I don't think he'll be too problematic.

Leshrac. Octarine Core.

Oracle is now a different kind of threat. Before he could make somebody slark under ult, now they're slark under a constant dark pact. cd was increased though so maybe it won't be too awful.

Sniper changes are alright. I was hoping for some different changes, make him worse through the midgame, but he's certainly less good now.

Storm nerfs. REDDITTTTTTTTTT. I'm actually happy about the changes. He's still the same hero, just "slightly not as good at things that don't matter"

Techies. I actually think these changes might be too much. Especially with that minefield sign change. Going uphill into that hero is going to be RETARDED.

Troll. Wasn't actually nerfed as much as/in the ways I think he needed. Melee form is still stupidly powerful, the items that made him good weren't changed, but other things were added and changed, so we'll see. But I still think he is probably too good. At least they removed the vision.

Wyvern nerfs to get her in CM. She's overall just the same though. I'm excited to see her in the coming officials.

>>2302

Being able to timelapse teammates for 0 mana every 20 seconds is fucking broken. Nobody ever dies as long as Weaver is around.

>Morphling morphs full agility for max attack speed and high as fuck damage

>Hybrids a bashing teammate

>You now have two Faceless Voids/Spirit Breakers/Trolls permabashing you

>Alchemist can now cast Aghanim's Scepter to directly grant any allied hero all Aghanim's Scepter bonuses as a buff (the hero upgrade and the stat upgrade). The scepter is consumed in the process. Multiple instances of this buff do not stack. Alchemist can target himself as well

ABSOLUTE

FUCKING

MADMAN

bristle with an octarine core is going to be reeeeally fucking scary

>>2306

It listed which abilities were disabled and I used to ctrl+f to make sure I didn't miss Backtrack.

I didn't see it.

>>2304

timelapse TO teammates

please read

morph to agi but you won't have your stats

you have the teammate's stats

please read

FUCKING RIPPER JEW

a troll might be an issue but fv would have no ias because you're a morph with an aghs soulring euls or some shit

the real issue is something like a tb with meta

>>2306

item silencing != item passive silencing

break disables all passives inc. items

mute stops item actives but not passives

>>2309

I'm not sure. he'd need to have a lot of free quill activations on a lot of units. The soul booster would be pretty good but that hero would still need armor. It would have to be a later item and after something like blademail or at least a medallion. The new medallion upgrade could be really good on him though.

>>2310

break probably should disable backtrack, in my opinion. It doesn't disable either of void's passives. Weird. It disables slardar's bash. Even counter helix, which wasn't disabled by 6.83c by an aghs doom, is disabled by the new break mechanic. They might have forgotten to list it or to implement it, I hope that gets changed.

>>2312

Alright, FUCK, I misread a word.

"This hybrid illusion can cast non-ultimate abilities and has your original attributes."

So "your" refers to the hero who hybrid was used on?

>>2313

oh fuck i also a word

i think you're right, you'd have the morphling's agi as faceless void.

The point remains, though, that you wouldn't have much in the way of stats/damage

even if you morph full agi you wouldn't have any hp, and you still wouldn't have any real damage

>>2314

That's hilarious

It seems jungle and lane farming heroes have overall been nerfed with the bounty being reduced on neutrals and lane creeps. Mud golems are still going to piss me off.

I haven't run the numbers, but I also feel like solo pick off heroes are going to be picked a lot more with the exp gain being changed.

Enchantress got a nice buff, and I'm wondering how she's going to play into the meta.

Probably one of the best upgrades that was out in is Ostarion's, if you can heal the wraiths into not dying.

Lone druid may have gotten an aghs upgrade but I don't consider it huge because again, jungle farming heroes were nerfed with these reduced bounties.

Wisp got a bit easier I guess.

Then there's that core thing that gives spell life steal. Does anyone know if it works with OD and Norstrom ability orbs?

So its going to be even harder to play doom and troll FUCKLORD IS STILL FUCKING OP

GGWP snowtoad

GG

W

P

At least I can devour golems now

>>2307

He really is pushing support alch

>Run supp Alch

>farm scepters FOR YOUR TEAM

>>2318

>>2317

Does the Techies agh change remove the damage increase or not? I'm somewhat confused.

>>2325

It doesn't, but it adds the extra element of mind games. Techies became the biggest troll hero in the game with that buff

>>2326

Well shit, time to main Techies.

>>2323

Are you good at Doom? Cause if you are than please help. In the jungle now I get midas boots and ring of bas at 10 minutes and aghs at 20, and with new jungle nerfs ill probably be even slowa

>>2330

I honestly wouldn't worry too much about that. Only a few jngle creeps (mostly ancients, which most junglers can't even kill in the laning stage) have had their gold nerfed, while both melee and ranged lane creeps had theirs nerfed. You should still be able to make more gold than a carry in lane.

>>2302

>>2312

I was right, you fucker. Nowhere does it say that it takes Weaver to teammates, and here a /vg/ fag shows how his ult works. Time lapse can be used on allies.

http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1430245076687.webm

>>2332

>browsing halfchan

Please leave and never come back.

>>2331

I will try harder. I devour every big creep as soon as it is off CD and I max it first prioritizing wolves and Hill Troll summoner for the net for doom aghs proximity

>>2332

Well, you were right. Good job. Sorry I said you were wrong.

The phrasing is really shitty though. It says "allows Timelapse to target allied heroes", not "allows weaver to timelapse target allied heroes"

not being able to test I can only go off of what I can read.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjkbVbCKDjo

Here are some of the reactions with lotus core.

idk if anyone could explain the lich one

also undying blademail/lotus nu meta?

>>2333

/d2g/ is like our Dota 2 board, except not dead.

>>2318

I made a small mistake; the lifesteal from Octarine Core works with OD's Arcane Orb, but not other autocast abilities. I'm not sure if this is a glitch, but this probably means that it's counted as a spell in certain situations.

>>2342

If OD's the outlier, it might be a glitch.

>>2342

Well I mean if he's the only one that can do this and not huskar, clinkz, silencer, veno, or anyone else with damage on autoattack

>>2344

Yeah, I say that because Arcane Orb counts as a spell for Essence Aura, while other autocast abilities don't, which is the only difference between them. It's possible that the same exception was made for Octarine as well. I guess we'll have to wait and see.

>dem new items

As someone who always picks random, I need to recalculate EVERYTHING for EVERYONE.

God fucking damn it!

>>2357

>Very High Skill

>High Skill

>Normal Skill

>

Nigga, you done fucked up.

>>2368

I've been shitting all over Sniper pickers ever since 6.84 came out. They're wondering why they're not winning anymore and don't know what to do since they can't use any other heroes.

Sniper is weaker not just because he was nerfed, but because almost everyone else was buffed. There's plenty of extra room for item choices now, so deciding what you buy has greater impact on the game.

FUCK

http://store.steampowered.com/news/16749/