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One niche use of aghs is to combine it with a Heart of Tarrasque and pool your strength into agi. The main perk is that while you're in a Hybrid state you will regen like a freak from Heart.

I think the following heroes make a solid case to be copied with Hybrid:

Pugna: Double Nether Ward, halved damage shouldn't apply because the Ward is now an independent damage source.

Ogre Magi: Yes you get his aghs Fireblast too, go figure. You can even both focus one target and he will basically never exit stun while eating fireblasts.

Bristleback: Everything you do stacks with your allied Bristleback. People will be running in terror from those quill spray and nasal goo stacks.

Naga Siren: Yeah make a ton more illus and bumrush them.

Axe: Berserker's Call and Counter Helix still work.

>replying to your own post

you don't get any of your own items while in hybrid and you can't use your hybrid target's items either (blink euls etc.)

honestly the only real use I can see for morph aghs is something like a double pugna ward or double tombstone, then you just go back to morphling to use your own shit.

those two heroes are particularly good because you've also got decay/soul rip or nether blast, and neither none of those rely on anything other than the ability to cast the spell.

you can't even cancel the hybrid either, so you're stuck as your hybrid target for the entire 20 seconds.

Theres a lot of shit that, when you bring it all together, really makes me think that morph's aghs is just clownshit that hs no real use

p.s.: try testing this shit before posting about it

>>2531

You're right. I did reply to my own post. I did that instead of submitting a single post because I wanted this to be a thread about what to do with aghs on morph, not a thread about my ideas. Like, there's samefagging to be a 1-man circlejerk and then there's samefagging to reduce your presence. This was the latter.

That said, you can use items while in hybrid. It's just the same as using items while in Brewmaster ult. You can regen, you can benefit from auras and truesight, you can even nab a radiance for the damage. But you cannot use any of the actives or shit like Linkens which requires your hero to be targeted.

Thanks for mentioning Dirge. I missed that one. His decay is fairly unimpeded by the 50% damage and tombstone is still a separate damage source.

>>2532

pretty sure the 50% damage is rightclicks only

>>2531

At least him replying to his post opens up the thread and provides his own ideas. Nothing wrong with that. It's not like this is a super busy board and everyone has a ton of people to theorycraft with anyway.

A notable mention goes out to Faceless "Balanced" Void, who can be hybrided, allowing Morphling to fight in his Chronosphere, while still benefiting from his bash, backtrack, and timewalk. If I understand correctly, morphing full agility before becoming a hybrid can give Morphless Void insane attack speed, adding a second bashlord to the team.

I think Terrorblade can do a better job of serving Naga's purpose with Hybrid. While the second net is nice, Terrormorph can still use Metamorph…morph and create his own illusions. Even with the nerf to illusion tower damage, the pushing power is huge.

That said, Nature's Prophet is a great Hybrid hero, doubling the number of treants on the field while still benefiting from his global teleport. Even if you don't want to be a filthy rat, the global teleport alone is reason enough to consider a quick hybrid for something like a 100% undetectable Morphling Roshan solo.

I'm not sure if or how it works, but a Hybrided Lone Druid sounds extremely powerful with his Spirit Bear. Even if the bear doesn't have any items, I don't think the 50% damage factor applies to him.

While her damage is limited, Morphtred, the Phantom Assassin, will still benefit from Coup de Grace, which should still be accounted for.

>>2534

Is Balanced Void a meme on this board are are you Ripper Jew?

Also, if passive ultimates still work, I imagine Phantom Lancer hybrid would be an absolute bitch to deal with.

Also, just as a general Morphling question, does anyone feel that the new aghs upgrade is starting to push him a little more as a support hero? Given the fact that he can take hits pretty well his strength morph, and on top of that, he can stay just as farmed as his carries, which means you're dealing with two of the exact same hero, except one can be much tankier, doesn't have an ultimate and has 50% damage. This could be put to use with, say…

Medusa, who is a natural rapier carrier. Farm two rapiers, have Morphling turn into you, and watch the enemy lose their shit while a support Morphling just transitioned into a carry in one rampage.

This is also a thing, apparently: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=159381

I think it's bullshit but there could be a chance.

>>2534

If you're going for flat DPS hybrids you're better off using your Replicant ultimate for that.You can't Hybrid with a Replicant out, so often there's little to no benefit in using a Hybrid where your Replicant is about as good. This is also why you don't really bother Hybriding Phantom Lancer. Just having a replicant of him is enough to create your own PL army of doom while keeping Morph in the field.

>>2536

PL's passives work with regular illusions just fine. A Morph Replicant or a Shadow Demon Disruption or a Terrorblade Reflection will all make an army of PL clones just fine.

Also pretty sure illusions get no bonuses from flat damage boosts, including the Hybrid.

>>2536

You know me, I can't mention Faceless without bitching about how broken he is.

As for Aghs pushing towards a support Morphling, yes, I think that's the idea. Naga is also a carry who is often played as a support, and her scepter upgrade definitely shows Valve's support for that. Nearly everything changed in patches is based off of what's shown in pro matches. Troll has always been a strong hero, but he wasn't changed until professional players started to complain about him.