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 No.2569

Let's talk about who is objectively the worst hero in dota.

My vote goes to this fucking dumbass.

>Squishy as shit for an initiator

>can't lane anywhere effectively

>can't jungle or roam effectively

>literally useless till lvl 6

>barely useful till he farms a blink dagger

>sucks at farming

>can barely initiate without blink

>threatening on his own only to the squishiest of supports

>his only redeeming feature is his ult, which is mediocre as far as disables go

I can't think of any reason to pick Batrider over someone like Centaur for example, who adds much more to his team, is a much better initiator, and has way more survivability.

 No.2570

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>Что ебать ты просто чертовски говорят обо мне, вы немного сукой? Я вас знаю, я закончил вершину моего класса в Navy Seals, и я принимал участие в многочисленных секретных рейдов на Аль-Каидой, и у меня есть более 300 подтвержденных убийств. Я тренировался в гориллы войны, и я сверху снайпер в целых вооруженных сил США. Вам это ничего не для меня, но только другая цель. Я протрите вам нахрен с точностью, подобных которым никогда не видели раньше на этой Земле, запомните мои чертовы слова. Вы думаете, что вы можете уйти с того, что дерьмо для меня через Интернет? Подумайте еще раз, ублюдок. Как мы говорим Я контактирую мой секретный сеть шпионов на территории США и вашего IP трассируется прямо сейчас, так что вам лучше подготовиться к шторму, личинка. Шторм, который стирает жалкий маленький вещь вы называете ваша жизнь. Вы чертовски мертвых, малыш. Я могу быть где угодно, в любое время, и я могу убить тебя в более семисот способами, и это только голыми руками. Я не только обучен приемам рукопашного боя, но у меня есть доступ ко всей арсенале морской пехоты Соединенных Штатов, и я буду использовать его в полной мере, чтобы вытереть задницу жалкий с лица континента, вы немного дерьма. Если бы вы только могли знать, что нечестивый возмездие ваш маленький "умный" комментарий был готов обрушить вас, может быть, вы бы провели свой гребаный язык. Но вы не могли, вы не сделали, и теперь вы платите цену, вы идиот проклятый. Я дерьмо ярость все над вами, и вы будете тонуть в нем. Вы чертовски мертв, детка.


 No.2573

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>can't lane anywhere effectively

>can't jungle or roam effectively

>sucks at farming

??????????????????????


 No.2574

>>2569

confirmed normal skill


 No.2580

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There is no objective worse hero because every hero fits somewhat well into any situation.

>Squishy as shit

What is Force Staff?

>Can't jungle or roam effectively

What is stacking?

>Literally useless until lvl 6

I'll give you that.

>Barely useful until he farms a blink dagger

>Can barely initiate without blink

Fog of war is a thing.

>Sucks at farming

See: basic jungle techniques

>Can't lane effectively

Yeah that's why he's put into offlane so much when he's picked in pro tournaments.

>Threatening to only the squishiest of supports

This is how I know you're either <100 wins or trolling. The main point of batrider in fights is to isolate any hero from the enemy team and drag them back to your own. There aren't many heroes that can 1v5 while disabled. In fact, I'll go so far as to say none of them can.

>Only redeeming feature is his ult

I don't think you know what sticky napalm does.

7/10 got me to extensively reply.


 No.2583

Didn't he have like a 80% pick/ban rate for DAC? Then he's built for survivability and is known as a jungler/offlaner? Isn't he actually THE best roamer in the game? Don't ALL initiators need items?

>Threatening on his own only to…

You do understand roles, right?

>His only redeeming feature is his ult

The same could be said about all initiators, especially Tidehunter and Enigma, but players understand their purpose.

>Mediocre as far as disables go

It's four-second full disable that goes through spell immunity and allows you to freely move the target. What more could you ask for?


 No.2584

I admit that he's extremely reliant on his team, but that doesn't make him a bad hero.


 No.2585

>>2569

That's why he was first pick/ban material until the last patch right? Because it's shit obviously.


 No.2605

>>2580

How does force staff make you less squishy?


 No.2608

>>2605

Health regen, a pretty shitty escape, intelligence boost could also make the difference between life and death.


 No.2641

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>almost everyone forgot about this fucker


 No.2655

I think Alch is the worst hero atm even with the gold changes and his aghs upgrade/being able to give it to others. He still is a crappy hero that forces your team to play 4 protect 1 which has been awful since a few patches back.


 No.2656

>>2655

That's how carries are…


 No.2657

>>2656

Not all carries there are a lot that could still contribute to early/mid game fights. PA, Weaver, PL with diffusal, etc. The only hero similar to that now is probably Spec but she could use her ult to join fights and could be useful with an urn and Antimage who isn't doing very good this meta but I'd prefer him over an Alch.


 No.2692

>>2655

That's not the point of alchemist.

All the trash tier players farm for 30-40 mins expecting him to become perma-bash late game master carry. TI3 days are long gone.

The problem is, BKBs been nerfed for ages, his stun is visible now and he gets kited too easily because of it.

You pretty much have to buy blink/silver edge for a reliable stun initation and farm for 20 minutes at the most.


 No.2713

>>2641

>What is soul catcher


 No.2721

>>2692

Yeah I don't understand why they added his stun timer again so enemies can see it and that pretty much is the point of Alch because they made his stun shitty. That's why most melee carries are pretty shitty unless they have a wisp or magnus helping them out.




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