No.3541
It's that time of year when US West suddenly goes from the lowest skill server to the highest
Who will win it all?
Who will come out of the wild card round?
How will the group stages go?
Is there a dark chinese horse looming for the apparently dominant western scene this year? Or will secret meme their way to victory playing techies? Will Na'Vi disappoint their fans for the second year in a row? Will C9 come in second?
Discuss.
No.3542
group a: secret c9 lgd ig fnatic navi col wildcard
group b: eg vg empire vp ehome newbee hot6 wildcard
in that order
cloud9 2nd place meme continues
No.3545
As much as I both love and hate to say it, I think Secret is going to win. EG also has a pretty good chance, but it's hard to tell what Envy is going to pull. I think the current meta is actually pretty flexible, so he has a lot of options for meme drafts.
No other team maters.
No.3548
Secret pretty much straight out said that they've been holding back strategies for TI because they think they'll be nerfed. And this is including them doing shit that pros aren't used to already, RE: Techies.
I think the other teams might be trying to catch up, holding back strategies, but it's pretty confident to say you think that if you use it before TI there will be a patch applied in response.
No.3549
>>3545
EG is my pick for second, but I can't see Secret losing.
No.3553
I autlocked Secret and EG for first and second place respectively. I just don't see other teams being able to win this tournament.
No.3557
>>3553
Hot6's draft and play lately has been extremely good, I could see them giving EG a run for their money. I keep changing my mind on who to give 2nd and 3rd to.
No.3573
>>3557
hot6 is like t3 at best
teams that they are 100% not better than: vici eg secret ig lgd c9 empire vp fnatic
and in their group?
i could see them going 1-1 against ehome and newbee, maybe beating the wildcard outright, but any other team they don't get 0-2'd against i'll be surprised
No.3580
I'd go with Secret and EG like everyone else. But I won't exclude VG, iG and C9 could bring a surprise. Even Fnatic, LGD and VP.Polar still have their chance.
inb4 Vega wins
No.3584
1 - EG
2 - Secret
3 - Cloud9
No.3585
No.3586
>>3585
discount ferrari_430 is irrelevant in the pro scene since he departed c9
No.3593
>>3585
I love the guy but he simply is not skilled enough right now since the standard got higher.
No.3614
>C9 lost to Teggies
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No.3617
Gyro/Leah are the new Troll/Sniper
No.3618
>>3617
Incorrect, gyro and leshrac are not autowin heroes.A high proffessional pick slash ban rate doesn't mean that hero is OP
No.3619
>>3617
>>3618
Lopunny is right. They're meta, but they're not overpowered. I haven't had any problems with Gyro and Lesh in my matches. People forget that Lesh is squishy and is shut down by BKB. Gyro is just a normal carry, but his power is also severely limited with BKB.
No.3620
>>3617
Is Leah some sort of meme name for Leshrac?
No.3718
>professional stream down for hours
>two days in a row
No.3719
>>3619
>lopunny
>right
LMAO
>>3718
apparently they're getting ddos'd which makes no sense to me
No.3720
>>3718
Jesus fuck where did you get that purge pic and what was he watching, literally scarier than a nightmare from Bane
No.3723
LMAO secret got blown the fuk up
No.3731
>>3723
>>3721
Really? what happened?
No.3734
So Secret lost to Ehome.
C9 are out.
MVP beat Empire!?
And Eg beat complexity Even though that was expected
Well yesterday was interesting.
No.3740
I fear it will be a chinese only finals. I don't really want that again.
No.3751
>>3541
Update, Team Secret defeat IG 2-1 with the fastest GG of the event in game 2. Secret stay in, Invictus Gaming take 9th place and go home with 190000 euros.
No.3760
>pick storm
>lose euls
TI isn't a pub, storm isn't a free win.
No.3766
>>3760
Blood also has a 40-something percent winrate in TI.
I really like Storm Spirit, but I hope he gets a small nerf, without being made useless. He's pretty cancerous right now.
No.3767
>>3766
storm got buffed passively with shit like bloodstone buildup / bounty rune changes
i don't think nerfing him directly is the right idea. hero has plenty of counters.
No.3768
>>3767
the ball vision nerf was also big. i think a slight bloodstone nerf might be the right idea.
No.3770
>>3768
Bloodstone's already a risky item to build. I don't think nerfing it would do any justice.
No.3771
>>3769
I'm not even mad. Life is meaningless anyway.
No.3777
>Teams picking Razor as their position 1
>Razor builds Aghs and armor, no DPS
>Lose because the enemy carry actually played as a carry
Professional gaming.
No.3779
>>3777
aghs is a dps item on that hero
its a hero you want to build tanky on so you can steal damage
i'm not saying the hero doesn't suck, just that the build makes sense. tbh i don't know why they're picking it either, especially against a blink ta and an ember
No.3781
>>3779
EG picked him two times in a row and lost. He just seems non relevant, absent in fights and despite how tanky he is, takes very little to burst down.
Imho he doesn't fit in a magic burst meta like this one where the fights are decided in fast big ulti combos.
No.3793
No.3794
I don't feel passionate about any of the teams in the top three.
It isn't that I hate any of them, I like all of them. If I had to choose I'd pick EG, but I still like the underdog CDEC. LGD is probably my least favorite, but none of them really bother me.
No.3796
>>3794
My main event predictions have been completely ruined. The only possible prediction I can still get is EG coming in 2nd, and I still don't see that happening. I don't think anyone expected a wildcard team to make it to the finals, this whole TI has been a rollercoaster.
No.3799
So CDEC VS EG in the Finals who do you think will win?
No.3808
>>3779
The dmg steal is the main point of him, really it's more of an ult than his ult. It's just his whole package taken together is so lackluster even though his early game is pretty good. He doesn't break the game wide open like the other good carries.
No.3810
>>3769
>>3771
>>3772
I never expected secret to win, simply because of RTZ. Kuroky was a better carry than RTZ has ever been. RTZ is limited to low skill, carry mid, flash farming heroes. He doesn't perform reliably in any other role and it forces the whole team to play around him, limiting their options further.
No.3812
TI is over and I got my first place prediction correct with EG the chink slayers being the victors. Now what do I do with my life?
No.3813
NA Dota officially relevant.
No.3815
No.3816
>>3813
Couldn't Sumal take of that fucking head pillow for one photo. He seriously looks like such a mong..
No.3818
>>3816
easiest game of his life
No.3820
>>3813
>It's hot
>My feet hurt
>This cord is heavy
>I wish I was at home watching Gilligan's Island
>This music sucks
>I don't even play this game
No.3826
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I still can't get over just how shit the finale was.
No.3835
>TFW TI5 is over
I knew these feels were coming and still don't want to feel them.
If Cyka Vincere just replace Artstyle with someone better, than yell at havost and funn1k before each match, they will be ti6 champions ok
No.3839
the /v/ thread:
https://8archive.moe/v/thread/5291716/
Died after the event. Similar to how the hype died with deadmau5 music. It was still cyclical and not auto saging, but the lack of interest bumped it off from the board.
GG EG.
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