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 No.4048

It's a game where only 40 heroes are viable, and the only winner is the team who can figure out the meta faster.

deal with it

 No.4049

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lol fag go away reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee


 No.4053

icefraud dropped the ball on the post-ti3 patches.

there has never been a better way to win matchmaking games than the current bloodstone leshrac

troll last patch was nearly as powerful


 No.4054

>>4053

>nearly

>thinking 6.84 lesh is stronger than 6.83 Troll Warlord

found_the_casual.exe


 No.4055

>>4054

found.the.real.lopunny.dll


 No.4057

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>>4054

I always get a little triggered whenever someone mentions "6.83 Troll Warlord"

Troll wasn't even changed in 6.83 and items that are popular on him weren't changed either. I had posted a "favorite hero" thread back in 6.82 saying that Troll was probably the strongest hero in the game. No one bitched about him being OP back then, but he becomes a popular pick after not being changed at all and suddenly he's overpowered.

I think it's kinda funny how Lopunny calls Bloodseeker "the same pubstomper he's always been" but still whines about "6.83 Troll" when he wasn't buffed directly or even indirectly. Just shows how little attention some people pay to this game, all for the sake of having something to shitpost about.

Getting back on topic, I'd put 6.84 Leshrac on par with 6.83 Sniper. Strong laning, strong kiting, nukes and slows with basically zero cost, scales like a motherfucker.

I'm not sure if it's for better or for worse, but this meta has a much wider pool than most. 6.83 had Sniper and Troll in the highest tier, and Juggernaut and Axe just below them. 6.84 has Leshrac and Bloodseeker in the highest tier, Lina, Storm, QoP, Ursa, and Warlock just below them. Overall, there's a larger selection to have to worry about, but more opportunities to be cancerous yourself.


 No.4060

>>4057

you actually have no clue what you're talking about

first of all, at the start of 6.83, juggernaut was the problem hero. by the time 683c rolled around jugg had been addressed but troll was not nerfed in either b or c

furthermore in 6.83 troll WAS buffed in one direct and one indirect way

directly, his fervor stacking was fixed to start at 1

indirectly, max attack speed was changed to 600 from 500 (at 25 WITHOUT ITEMS troll can reach 403 ias with fervor and ult)

and troll mostly got his power from the dominant items (being mostly cheap stats on agi carries, into lifesteal+skadi)

aquila has been core on most agi heroes since 6.80 (and grants troll all the mana he could ever need despite a pitiful int gain), SnY slowly crept up to being the ultimate run-down item (combined with a movespeed bonus from melee form and phase boots, a troll could reach haste speed on 50% uptime)

these various strengths combined with two separate skills on 17 and 12 second cooldowns respectively that GIVE VISION and an incredibly powerful laning phase thanks to the bonus damage of melee form (and the damage given by the aforementioned cheap items) made him an incredibly powerful safelaner, especially good combined with certain other heroes that were good at the time, especially sniper and spirit breaker thanks to the global ias ult.

but he was still mostly relegated to the safelane. sure a mid troll can work but diverting for a bottle isn't something you really want to have to do. even the most powerful safelane is subject to the retardation of your own supports, agressive dual/trilanes by the enemy, or even your mid getting dumpstered

and so 6.84 leshrac. rapes mid in literally every matchup, farms faster than basically every other mid, has a 1 second slow and a 2 second stun which combined deals 560 damage for 280 mana

but its true that it's been a barely-noticed ramp up. every hero that ends up being 'too strong' ends up so slowly. he was strong in 6.83, but not particularly against (or with) troll, so he was mostly ignored. in lesh's case it's been small ulti and lightning buffs (and minorly the removal of composite damage in 6.82) combined with the worsening of bkb

re: tiers, you're wrong as well. Seeker's not that strong, lina and storm are stronger than you think, ursa's and warlock are not that strong, techies is stronger than you think, you completely neglected bounty and wyvern (though its tougher to win a game alone with those heroes)


 No.4061

>>4057

"Real lopunny" here. Pretty much what >>4060

said. Except, I'd like to add that since I said BS was the same he's always been, I admitted Ribba Joo Was Right about four times in different threads since then,which was a few months ago. I responded to your shit post of a shitpost accusation though, so I guess you win. 10/10 m8


 No.4063

>>4061

>"Real lopunny" here.

Into the trash it goes.


 No.4064

>>4063

nice me.me




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