No.788
ded board
let's liven it up with an ORACLE PATCH DISCUSSION
things to consider:
- Oracle is an OP piece of shit y/n
- PA arcana, have you fapped to it yet
- Compendium rewards
- Valve's jewing
- Brood & Phoenix in CM
- Dreamleague is shitty
edit: PATCH IS LIVE, STOP TALKING GO PLAY
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No.789
I was hoping someone would make this thread. I would have done it, but I don't like talking to myself.
At a first glance, I thought of him as OP, but then I realized that there aren't any particular heroes who pair exceptionally well with Oracle.
Now I'm just worried. I know that everyone is going to rush pick him as soon as he's released. No one will know how to play as him and will end up fucking their teammates over badly. It makes me not want to play.
No.790
Why did they bother bringing in a new voice actor if the voice they decided on just sounds like Bane?
No.791
>>789It's same as techies. I didn't play for a week when that shit came out, so i wouldn't have to deal with that shit
alternately just don't play ranked
>>790I was wondering that. People have said "wohahwow he sounds like gman" but all i hear is a shitty bane impression with a filter over it
No.792
>>791At least a good team has a chance even with a bad Techies player on their team. Oracle is at the top of the list of heroes who can fuck their teams over. I'm waiting for some dipshit Russian to start healing enemies, giving enemies spell resistance right before a nuke hits, making right-clicking allies not able to attack, using that precious ultimate only on themselves. It's sickening. Hell is going to break loose.
No.793
>>792at least he has 1.4 bat right?
can i ask why the fuck oracle has a 1.4 bat?
No.795
>>793That caught my attention as well. He has a good enough Intelligence gain so that he could be a decent right-clicker in the mid game. I don't know why, I guess snowtoad wants to try to force auto attack damage on Int heroes like QoP, but Oracle can scale very well once 9 seconds of invincibility on a hard carry can win games.
No.796
>new arcana comes with event
>event causes item drops when PA kills target/target kills PA
Every game with PA arcana is ruined, ggwp
No.798
I tried him out in a bot match. His W is great for raping supports if your lane partner has a stun and is not shit at right clicking. I didn't try an Urn on him but Mekansm is fantastic, his ult needs a longer cd though. Maybe like 5-10 more seconds.
No.799
>>796it's stupid how the item is selectable even though it doesn't do anything except expand your epeen by showing you how much damage you dealt. It could cause some serious misclicks, I hope valve makes them unselectable soon.
No.804
>>799supposedly you can only select it by boxing over it and only it, which would be pretty hard to accidentally do
that said yeah, cosmetics aren't supposed to interfere with gameplay, and i'm GLAD reddit and company got the techies arcana sign to not be an arcana only thing
No.808
>>789Dazzle pairs very well with oracle, just have him throw shallow grave at the end of Oracle's ult. Look at that, your carry will never die.
No.809
>>808That's what I was thinking. Huskar + Dazzle + Oracle seems ridiculously powerful. Huskar jumps in the middle of a fight, Dazzle uses Shallow Grave to keep him from dying, Orcle uses his ult just before SG ends, then Huskar uses Inner Vitality on himself. 14 whole seconds of unlikable, +280 attack speed Huskar, then he has full health as soon as Oracle's ultimate ends.
It's scary.
No.810
>>809axe's ult kills through shallow grave OR false promise
No.812
>>810captains mode they ban axe or in all pick they just draft him.
No.813
>>812Oracle not in CM
I'm not sure he'll ever get in the way he is right now either
then again, phoenix got in
No.816
So how do Blade Mail, Dispersion, and Return work under the effects of Oracle's ultimate? Is the returned damage dealt when the ult ends or is it wasted since the damage is delayed?
I'd guess Return would work, if not the other two, since its damage depends on Centaur, rather than the attacker. Can anyone confirm this?
No.818
>>816return ought to deal damage when centaur is attacked
dispersion should reduce the damage when it's taken (ie: not during the duration of false promise)
blademail i've heard does nothing, even if activated for the end of false promise. No confirmation on any of this yet, but i'll test when i can
No.819
>>818I imagine blademail does nothing because the source of damage from Oracle's ult
is oracle's ult, so there is nothing to actually kill.
No.820
>>819But the initial damage dealt is credited to the original source, so I'm not sure about that.
No.823
>>820just tested it and blademail activated when false promise ends does nothing
No.824
>>823I guess that makes sense. Thanks, anon.
No.839
Is this it? is this the "big update" we were going to get thanks to no diretide?
No.841
>>839from dota 2 blog:
"One more thing: we on the Dota 2 team have a number of updates in the works right now that we’re really excited about, some for the rest of this year, and a big update for early next year."
No.842
General thoughts:
-The new PA arcana reminds me a bit of Midna from Twilight Princess
-Oracle may be OP, but a lot of people might not know how to use his abilities to the best of his ability. I know I sure as hell don't, and I don't have any plans on playing as Oracle anyway.
-I don't like the new creep design.
That's my two cents on the subject matter for now.
No.843
http://www.dota2.com/oracle/day3Day three is out kids
thank god the event is unranked only
No.844
No.845
>>844see
>>841also as long as one person in the match owns the arcana the event will be active
No.846
>>845Are you seriously delusional enough to think that they have /anything/ of any significance planned between now and around February of next year?
Do you seriously think that would excuse this fucking atrocious money-grubbing bullshit of an event?
Have you even put together the amount of requirements for this event to even trigger in your head and realized how absurd it is?
No.847
>>846Between now and feb? not necessarily
but valve is not a company that tends to lie about shit
they have proven themselves trustworthy and I don't think its far-fetched that they are working on something big, because they said that they are
And the game IS free to play, I can excuse them wanting to make some money on the event that they put time and resources into making
You're not expected to buy anything and You'll easily get shit for just playing in a game with someone who has the arcana
my impression is that there will be multiple names on the list to be killed, such that there will be somewhat of a good chance that the event will be 'active' in any given match with a PA (of which I'm certain there will be many)
I understand you're fannyflustered about the arcana thing but I don't think it's that bad. Difference of opinion mostly. I can see where you're coming from, though.
No.848
>>847The game being Free to Play would be a legitimate excuse if it weren't for the fact that they make literally MILLIONS OF DOLLARS off of the International every year, and considering how much they made this year specifically I think it's reasonable to expect a little more than this fucking bullshit. This isn't even mentioning the fact that they already make absurd amounts of money off the Steam platform alone which could easily fund basically any venture they could POSSIBLY want to experiment with. TF2 has gotten away with free content updates for 7 FUCKING YEARS, and that was BEFORE Steam had a complete stranglehold on the pc gaming market. It went free to play years ago and STILL gets free content updates that don't require someone paying money to participate, and it doesn't have NEARLY the same kind of playerbase or revenue stream as Dota 2.
I also balk at your claim that they don't "expect" anyone to buy anything. Lets take a look at the requirements to actually trigger this event, shall we?
Someone in the game must own the arcana
AND
Someone in the game must be playing Phantom Assassin
AND
Someone ELSE on the ENEMY TEAM must be playing a hero that has a contract
AND
One of the two previously mentioned players must kill the other one
AND
The team of the player that got the kill must then WIN THE GAME in order to be ELIGIBLE for a CHANCE to receive items after the match, and ONLY FOR THE WINNING TEAM
And you don't think this was specifically formulated to get people to spend money? Take the blinders off dude.
No.849
>>848I never said they didn't expect anyone to buy the arcana
just that you don't have to, to receive the benefits
Only one of those five requirements involves money, and if you think you won't be playing with a LOT of people who have bought the arcana then you're flat wrong
at the same time, people will actively pick those heroes, both PA and the contract targets
and they're going to try to focus each other
It's like, sure there's a bunch of requirements, and in a vacuum they may seem unlikely together, but in reality people are going to MAKE them happen
No.850
>>849The fact that people are going to MAKE them happen disgusts me. That means people are willing to spend $30 for virtual item bullshit, in droves, thus supporting Valve's decision to RELEASE $30 bullshit, and confirming that they can basically do LITERALLY ANYTHING and people will still fucking had them their money and continue playing their fucking product.
These are nickle-and-dime anti-consumer practices and if it were ANY OTHER COMPANY it would be COMPLETELY unacceptable behavior.
No.851
to clear up any confusion about the figure on the day 3 page
No.852
>>848It may sound like a typical child's response, but if you don't want to pay money to Valve, then don't. The arcana is cool as fuck, but not worth $35.
I think we're just mad because we're jealous poorfags.
No.853
>>852>>850this just in team that succeeds re: contract has a chance to get an item set for the entire team, i already got one, and there are reports of 5 arcanas dropping at once
literally Auschwitz in here, they're drowning their playerbase in free items how awful
No.855
>>844This, I have been saying this shit for a while
No.856
>>853According to yesterday's patch notes, there was a glitch of arcanas having a higher drop rate than intended and it has since been fixed.
Still cool, but I wouldn't get my hopes up of getting one.
No.857
After stomping a team with a feeding Oracle who never used his precious ultimate, I decided to see what Dotabuff says about him.
Why am I not surprised?
No.858
>valve pretty much removes item drops from game
>re-enables them for 28 dollars
I fucking love it
No.859
>>858oh and >Drops arent tradeable
LOVE IT
No.860
Did any of us really play for item drops anyway? Aside from prices crashing, I haven't lost anything from the change. I'm not losing much sleep over not having the 1/50 chance of getting another Abaddon item to sell for a penny.
No.874
It was nice playing with you guys, but I've decided that it's time for me to quit Dota. You won't see me around here anymore.
Take care.
No.876
No.878
>>876our board is so bad it literally makes people quit dota
i bet /d2g/ can't say that
No.879
No.884
>>858And then they removed them again because "muh hat market crash”
No.891
>>878Who cares about some namefag
>>884They just made event drops untradeable and unmarketable
>>858>tfw no drop even with 3 contract denies and wins. No.2230
>>874
daily reminder ripper jew quit
No.2235
>>2230
lol bs they always come back
No.2247
>>2230
>>2235
Yeah, fuck that guy.
I had planned to quit because, between school and work, I didn't have time to play, but since I've decided to focus on school, I stopped working and came back a long time ago, I just don't namefag anymore.