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Ecological collapse is a non-partisan issue.

This board is a forum for discussion of ecological/environmental politics. Please be civil.

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I'll start things off. Specifically the issue I want to address is removing the "leftism" tag under the board data in search, unless a "rightism" or similar tag is added. It is blatantly hypocritical to ignore this on an explicitly "non-partisan" board (so says the sticky). Can there possibly be a good reason for not doing this? unless this board was created in bad faith and is just another attempt to siphon off users from /pol/


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OR was the leftism tag put there to lure'em in?

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Does it matter? It's just a label, only the environment matters



>only the environment matters

Then why does the BO ban anyone who isn't a communist?

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This is a thread for the general discussion of green libertarian philosophy. This includes communalism, green anarchism, anarcho-primitivism, ecosocialism, libertarian municipalism, and other philosophies.

In line with the philosophy of the board board, don't shitpost; this thread is for serious discussion and comfy feelings.

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Why don't you cucks just stay on another leftist board where you belong? There's like 20 of them and all have the same 30 kids posting in it so you are not missing anything



The same can be said for poltards with their 100+ boards.





Guys please stop saying that Rojava is communist


How do we get green issues to become election issues?

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Communalism will win.

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Kek to libtards saying Hitler was a shit artist when he managed to create a movement that pushed artists to draw mindblowing fashion, industrial a'd graphic designs



Read Critique of the Gotha Program. The focus of Communism is ‘from each according to his ability, to each according to need.’ No shit people aren’t equal, that’s why the point is allocating to everyone’s needs.


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To know a thing well see what it does over time. Not what it says, not what it occasionally does but what it usually does.

Contents beats label.



That's the problem you moron. "Take from the capable to give to the worthless bums" makes a shitty society.


Allegiance to a label doesn't matter. Work to leave the environment in a better condition then when you found it. That's all that matters.

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Posting an old screencap of an idea with how we can deal with niggers, kikes, and probably some /leftypol/ enemies. Would you think it could be an effective idea to appeal to both sides while spreading our message about caring for the environment? Of course it's not as effective as conventional weaponry but it looks like it could still get the job done. Using actual weapons would obviously be too lethal and get us thrown in jail more often in most cases. Can ecoterrorism be related to bioterrorism? We could manipulate how many flies hang out around a person's house and make them be more likely to cause havoc inside their house, etc. Just an idea.

I know it's kinda related to the ecoterrorism threads we already have on here, but in this we should discuss methods, ideas, etc.

TLDR: Nature is on our side and we can weaponize her. Should we and is it worth it?


Seedbombing sounds like fun but I'm not sure as to how effective mass seedbombing would be in solving ecological issues… outside of making overgrown yards more overgrown



why do we want to destroy the nig's houses? we the taxpayer will just end up having to buy them new ones and sacrifice another white neighbourhood for niggification?


Dumbest idea and will only come back to fuck up your own properties and bushland

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Who and Why?

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Recycling is the final and least important part of the Reduce, Reuse, Recycle mantra, yet it also gets the most attention. If we reduce the amount of shit we break and toss out, we'll have less need for landfills and recycling while saving us more money in the long term.

How should we achieve this as a society and how can we make steps towards this in our personal lives? Ideally we should focus on making and buying higher quality, more durable goods, but this has some significant economic implications.

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If you want to talk about the ecological implications of genociding China instead of the thread's topic, why don't you make your own thread for it?



Reusable and repairable electronics:

I agree that more durable goods could be a good move. I recently saw a vintage ad for a car, where the selling point was durability and ease of maintenance. Now, completely disregarding and not arguing about too many cars etc., that is something You don't see now. Durability or lack of it isn't even discussed as consumers don't protest. And, for example in the case of consumer electronics, it's enforced that stuff will be obsolete (for example, unable to update even though the hardware has the technical capability). People buy stupid shit they don't need. But if that shit would last and 1 thing would fill needs and not just be another link in a "buy the new thing" chain, if things were modular or service'able instead of designed to go to the dumpster (even in the 90s more pointless goods were repaired rather than replaced by more chinese shit), it would reduce the waste in these areas, possibly noteworthy because of saving some rare resources (then again, these resources would be "freed" to make other consumer electronics so idk). But it would require EXTENSIVE action to promote a change in the way of thinking, people are shallow, uncreative and not willing to make an effort to fix their shit, they want instant gratification. Sorry for the wall of text

But that would be just change in one area, there are imho bigger problems like unneccessary plastic shit everywhere




I don't know everyone's stance on using wood, and the potential exploitation of forests in general, but I think for example giving incentives for people to use wooden shit to flip their pancakes, mix their soup and to sit on and whatever, instead of plastic, could be seen as a net positive on the environment, if the wood is sourced reasonably local and not flying in from China.

Does /ecopol/ agree with me that it could possibly do well for local economies and th global environment to replace imported plastic shit with local wooden ones (if we assume generally unchanged demand for goods in terms of quantity)? Or is it potential for a disaster



Bamboo is much more sustainable because it’s faster growing and can be grown in the US. We also import quite a bit of wood from NZ. But, wood is sustainable as long as it’s not wasted which happens a lot obviously. The key to all these problems is changing people’s mindsets and lifestyle which is no easy task. It doesn’t matter how green we are in the west so long as normalfags buy shit from China and the third world who are nigging up the whole planet unbeknownst to the western bugmen.



>Recycling is the final and least important part of the Reduce, Reuse, Recycle mantra

…until someone shows up strip-mining and dumps the heavy metals in your drinking water. Then, all of a sudden, you'd wish they'd haul shit out of the landfill instead.

Zero waste is good, though.

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Anyone here vegetarian?

How long does it take before you lose the desire to eat meat?

I'm thinking about becoming pescetarian.

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>Anyone here vegetarian?

No but I am thinking about it though.


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Yes! I've been for about three years now; and I don't actively crave it anymore. One in a while I still crave the sense indulgence of consuming flesh food, but it's only a weak and passing craving. It's rather like giving up smoking dope or drinking alcohol, which I also quit a few years back.


Quitting meat is easy. Honestly, people make it sound way harder than it actually is. If you have more discipline than a 1st-grader, it's easy.

Now, quitting dairy on the hand, is much harder. Milk/eggs are in much more products than meat is, and often find their ways into products where they aren't 100% necessary.



I was vegan for like a week but then my family pressured me into eating a piece of pizza and I've been back to normal for like 2 weeks.

Going back to vegan today I guess.

Also being vegan isn't healthy long term. There isn't a way to naturally get vitamin B12 or creatine in your diet, and I want my muscles to be big and swole.


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I quit on Hitler’s last birthday. He and Rudolf Hess were big, but not the only influencing factors. I had been weening myself of on to just pasture eggs for a year. Then Nasim shot up youtube at the same time I was reading an ama by a Rothschild where he said he only eats meat during rituals. All these galvanized the spiritual and moral reasons to abstain which has made it easy. I also abstain from legumes and fake democracy which make my diet Pythagorean, not vegetarian. If you stay away from phytoestrogens and eat the foods listed in the next reply, you won’t turn into a crazy soy.


>There isn't a way to naturally get vitamin B12 or creatine

Spirulina, chlorella, Klamath Lake Blue Green algae, hemp, and Sacha inchi have the full spectrum of B’s, amino acids, fatty acids and protein. Also it was probably the pizza crust that made you relapse tbh.


This. Not often but every now and again I catch a whiff an the blood lust will creep in. It’s easier to fend off than the urge to fap tbh.


Also this. Milk I never crave but I can’t hardly make it a week without a cheese relapse.


>tease him with a Bic Mac

>gmo soy

>saw dust

>immigrant shit

You at least could’ve lied and said steak. Joke’s on you fag.


>Vegetarianism is retarded and extremely unhealthy foPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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>Catalog>Search>Oc Thread

>No OC thread

Let's fix that.






In this case, I agree. "Let's go into the woods and kill trees" -> 'eco,' somehow…. is bullshit.



The picture was taken in autumn and the yellow/brown ones are larches.




Oh. Well then, it's legit. Carry on…

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I expect most of you are familiar with Gaia theory. For those that are not, here’s a brief outline:

Gaia theory is the observation that the Earth functions like a vast super-organism. That it has its own self regulatory mechanisms and homoeostasis. The theory isnt claiming that the Earth is a distinct organism in its own right, only that it effectively functions as one and that this concept can be used to understand its behaviour. Gaia is the recognition of the interconnectedness of things within a living system that is greater than the sum of its parts. The name of the living interconnected system that made life and that life influences in turn, is called Gaia.

Gaia is not a god, Gaia is Meta life.

The System:

We can understand what has become of our civilisation and why it behaves the way it does by applying the same approach to its mechanisms under the term The System.

The System is the mechanisms of money, influence, power, indoctrination and domestication (ie. removal of natural instinct) that now exists only to perpetuate itself and whose primary focus can be summed up by the word ‘CONTROL’.

Although The System is the antithesis of Gaia it is similar to it in some ways. Like Gaia it is meta. It has arisen from the basic mechanisms that form it economically, culturally, politically, technologically. Like Gaia it is greater than the sum of its parts and is self sustaining, for now. Like Gaia it is interconnected. Also like Gaia it moulds us, but unlike Gaia it has no natural life within it and because it is unnatural it is incomplete. It does not follow Natural Law directly but tries to thwart it. The System is anti logos, anti nature.


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The system evolved initially through the efforts of the jew. It was they, being a primarily urban and parasitic group wherever permitted, that developed the system of debt slavery that holds dominion over every person and every government in one form or another today and governs them directly or indirectly. It was the jew, with their money, media and ‘education’ that actively promoted every form of sickness and degeneracy in opposition to natural healthy sexuality and sanity, that attempted to wipe out natural sexual roles, family structure and National identity to make us atomised, isolated consumers enslaved to debt. Proper worker/consumer drones for them and the other ‘elites’ that believe they run The System.

The System is the golem the jew created and although the jew and other ‘elites’ still direct it for now, it would be a mistake to think that its solely the jews fault even though they are the originators of many of the mechanisms The System arose from. The System is far more than that now. It is becoming self perpetuating and we feed it whether we like it or nor.

As populations become more urban, more divorced from our natural drives, instincts and behaviours. More interconnected and globalised via The System rather than Gaia. More accustomed to the superficial affluence The System uses as bait, our own dissociated instinctual drives begin to work against us and for The System. We become dependant on it personally and nationally.


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Example: In its proper setting hunger and the pleasure of eating is a positive thing. It encouraged us to hunt, gather and farm with a surplus and thus thrive. It was offset by the external limiting factors of scarcity and effort. In its natural setting these drives serve us well in most circumstances.

However, if we remove ourselves from the limiting external factors of scarcity and effort and replace them with superabundance of food for little physical effort we begin eating ourselves to death. The personal solution is to understand this and exercise conscious will to curb our eating and get some exercise in accordance with Natural Law and the specific nature of our species, simple.

But The System doesnt want this. The System wants to lure us in to working for it with lots of delicious high calorie but poorly nutritious, highly processed food that makes us feel good superficially, makes us want more and stimulates an intricate, interconnected network of mechanisms that The System needs to feed itself: economically, politically, culturally. This isn’t done consciously by The System. Its happens on a smaller scale by every manufacturer, every farmer, every outlet and finally every consumer. All orchestrated by the mechanisms of money, greed, power, politics, myopic self interest and control all summed up by the term The System.

Similar lures exist in the form of pornography, mobile phones, fashions, cars etc…

We chase these empty things in a hamster wheel of consumerism and debt.

Feckless, sterile copulation, self medication and social media dopamine hits are some of the anodyne’s The System uses to trap us in our futile lives. Like a drug dealer The System needs its hopeless addicts.

The System and Gaia are mutually exclusive.

You see there is only so much energy in a living system at any one time. More energy comes in, yes but only relatively slowly and The System is always hungry. To operate at such a hysterical intensity of hyper stimulation it needs more and more energy for growth, growth, growth.

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Wat du?

There are two options:

1.The Eden plan: Destroy The System and deliberately regress into a more technologically primitive state. Re-submerging ourselves within Gaia once more allowing the structure of reality (Natural Law) to impose itself upon us directly, externally and thus live hard but healthy lives. The problem with this is what happens when our descendants inevitably forget and rebuild? Even without the jew they would encounter similar problems eventually I expect.

2.The Sentience plan: Destroy The System and recognise the structure of reality; Natural Law as the only valid guide to civilisation and morality because it made us and we are part of it. Internalise Natural Law and consciously embody it individually and culturally. Build a Civilisation that is more than a Hamster wheel of dopamine and consumption chasing credit. Build a civilisation that UNDERSTANDS Gaia and lives as a conscious , sentient part of it. In accordance with Gaia and the rules of Reality called Natural Law.

Just like the hunger/food example I gave above, this requires conscious effort and discipline in place of external limitations but the rewards are tremendous and its the only way to be more than glorified Amish or niggers.

This is far harder than the Eden plan but is the only true path to a future not only for ourselves but for all life on Earth.

We are a part of the Gaia that has become aware of itself.


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Remember live aid back in the 80's? Remember the pictures of starving nogs covered in flies? remember (((Bob Geldof))) demanding money and that awful concert that everybody pretends was great? Remember how so many gave so much to save the niglets? Remember how just a few years later there was ANOTHER famine and more begging?

Well this thread is to talk about what went wrong, why nothing really changed and how this affects the bigger picture.

By feeding, watering, medicating the starving population we allowed more of the population to survive.

By drilling more and deeper wells for them we continued to drain the aquifers instead of allowing them to recover.

By sending them replacement cattle and helping them rebuild their farms we increased desertification.

Our misplaced altruism, exploited by self publicists, has been a major factor in the ongoing ecological mess that is the horn of Africa and elsewhere. It is a major factor in continued famines that seem to occur two or three times a decade.

Our absurd altruism has created an ecological imbalance by allowing too many niggers to live than would other wise be sustainable in that environment. This has caused MORE suffering, if you must care for that hopeless race.

Wat du?

Sustain the nogs with resources they are unable to provide for themselves at the expense of the environment?

Stop sustaining their population, let it collapse and allow a more natural balance to reassert itself at the expense of our conscience?

The issue raised by this example applies globally: Altruism Vs Ecology.

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So what to do with the nogs, fren?

Altruism Vs Ecology still requires an answer. . .



>So what to do with the nogs, fren?

…put them back in the child porn business like it's 1991?


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No you filthy degenerate.

We either exterminate them or simply allow them to find their level in quarantine, typically mud huts and villages. Its not like the apes have really benefited from other peoples organisation, technology and civilisation.



Nah. Child porn.

Most of that technology and civilization - such as anything using iron or steel - was stolen from Africa anyways.



seems legit.

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Shitskins and Pollution, Waste, Deforestation etc


Shitskins are destroying the planet. All global pollution and waste disposed of carelessly into the environment originate in shitskin countries.

These barely evolved sub-humans are praised as environmentally friendly "noble savages" by the globalists the modern right wing is as bad as the left, at this point no distinction is necessary, yet after decades of modern technology they've done nothing but transform their own countries into waste-ridden hellscapes, and are now actively working on using their filth emittance to destroy the rest of the planet too.

What pathway can Whites take to defend our mortal realm from these vile, Midgard-destroying creatures?

The implementation of ecologically friendly energy sources and production processes in our own lands is completely pointless; these sub-humans would continue to rapidly destroy the planet. While they possess modern technology, White imperialism is the only option to curtail their filth production, but do we really want to spend any of our resources on babysitting total retards who shit on their own streets?

No, the developing world has to be prevented from becoming developed at all costs. We all know that these people are racially incapable of empathy and too unintelligent not to destroy their own homes with filth. A "developed" third world is an industrialized third world, not an ecologically caring third world.

When the third world enters full industrialization, our planet and the vast majority of life on it will be doomed.

The third world has to be completely deprived of all resources – all medical aid ceased, all food aid ceased, all trade ceased, all commerce ceased. We sanction the entire developing planet and then enforce environmental policy, or de-industrialization via threat of absolute total war.


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Daily reminder that climate change will only be solved through international solidarity and collaboration, not division over skin color or nationality. The reactionary stance on race is counterproductive, enforces the status quo and fixes nothing.

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ayyy lmao pics related

>inb4 correlation is not causation

No, but the notion of correlation is not at issue. Science proceeds by offering theories and discarding those less useful. As long as we want our society oriented toward the truth, can you consider the possibility that race may have a significant role to play as a conceptual category for understanding phenomena in the world? If it does so especially in regards to saving old growth forests, clean rivers, fisheries, etc, would you be willing to sacrifice your egalitarian premises for the sake of the earth? I would… Know that I don't hate you, I just think you will be left out of the real coalition that will eventually bring "green" causes to triumph when you deny that white europeans have an overhwhelming head start when it comes to environmental protection, and that discrimination along racial lines in all kinds of ways should undoubtedly inform our environmental policies therefore. Whether you hate yourself or anyone for the truth of this FACT is none of my business or concern, but be prepared to continually FAIL in your personal efforts to save the earth as long as you ignore the role of genetics in the role of emergent behavior and by extension predilection for environmental protection, because you have legislated a certain variable as just irrelevant or "minute".

It sounds like you a) have not traveled very much, b) have not lived near blacks (or Chinese or Mexicans or Koreans or Vietnamese) for extended periods of time, or c) have not looked at a wide range of statistics, or d) all three. Most normal humans beings trust their own judgement and intuition, why do you not trust your and persist in this claim that differences in race are "minute" when the gulf between white and black culture in the US, for example, which I assume you may be aware of, is so SELF EVIDENT? Racial differences are "minute" from certain levels of analysis, and giant gulfs at another; learn to see higher level properties; discard your nominalist reductionist fantasies; there are emergent phenomena of real (physical) genetic phenomena called behaviors, and there is literally nothing you can do about it. You are a bee in a hive; are you the organism, oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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If this continued invasion of our living area by the Third World continues we will be completely swamped. We already have the Clintonistas counting down in eager anticipation of the day sometime around the middle of the next century when we will be a minority in our own land and a non-White majority will be lording it over us. And of course, it will be not only the drowning of America in a non-White tide, it will be the destruction of the last of the rain forests and the last of the wild animals everywhere, as the Brown and Black population explosions continue in their own parts of the world. It will be terminal pollution everywhere on our overcrowded planet.

How did this happen? What were we thinking of when we took our medical science to Africa and Asia and the jungles of Central and South America and reduced the death rates in those places so that their non-White populations could explode?

If we had just left them swinging through the trees and sacrificing each other wholesale to their various gods, instead of trying to get them to wear clothes and learn English or Spanish or French and wash their hands after going to the bathroom, they still would be happily making mud pies with their own filth and dying like flies, and their population density still would be what it was ten thousand years ago; the tropical rain forests still would be thriving, and the lions still would be eating as many of them as vice versa. Most important, we wouldn’t be carrying them on our backs now whenever we go to a hospital; we wouldn’t be subjecting our kids to them in our schools; we wouldn’t have them shoved in our faces whenever we turn on a television receiver; we wouldn’t be looking for parts of the country to which we can flee where there are fewer of them; we wouldn’t be watching our whole civilization being pulled back down into barbarism by their dead weight. We could be masters in our own world, a cleaner and greener and healthier world.

So why did we do it? Well, there are historical reasons, and there are current reasons. Historically, we always have had a surfeit of shortsightedness — or at least, the farsighted people among us were not in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



All of that is wonderful, but it is not wonderful that so many of us who are able to feel the pain of others do not seem to have the farsighted understanding which should go along with that empathy. We seem to have achieved that understanding when it comes to things such as forest and wildlife management. We understand that it often is good to permit Nature to take its course in the case of forest fires, or in maintaining the natural balance between predator and prey, and so on. But we need to apply the same considerations to the non-White races. We never should have permitted medical intervention in the non-White world. We should not be trying now to halt the spread of AIDS in Africa. We should not even consider famine relief for Ethiopia. We should not interfere in the mutual genocide between Hutus and Tutsis. Unless we temper our altruism with intelligence — and especially, unless we limit it to our own race — it will destroy us rather than help us achieve a higher civilization and a higher grade of humanity on this planet.

What rules us now is a soft-headed, mushy, egalitarian, feminine sort of altruism, where we are more inclined to feed the starving picaninnies of Africa than to take account of the fact that every picaninny who doesn’t starve to death now will grow up to breed more picaninnies. We feel sorry for the disease-ridden Blacks and Browns of the world, and instead of keeping them and their diseases strictly confined to their part of the world, we bring them into our part of the world so that we can share their diseases — as in the case of New York’s current outbreak of West Nile encephalitis imported from Africa.

What we need is a hard-headed, masculine sort of altruism, which makes us as concerned for the preservation of our own racial quality as for the stamping out of the fur trade, the sort of altruism which leads us to sterilize our own defectives rather than permitting them to breed a White welfare class, just as it leads us to thin out the two-legged population of Africa rather than permitting it to continue encroaching on the four-legged populations.

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Wrong. The third world menace must be destroyed.

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>he doesn’t want to live in an anprim paradise

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You can walk to the cocaine area, but it's not going to help your handjob rape. It will only make it take longer.


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>The North American Indians were bloodthirsty cunts

I know, I've fucked some.

>South America

Fucked some.

>As for the Abbos

…better than the invader on any form of island.

>Just check out the cases of incestuous rape amongst them.

Wypipo built their police system, a crime itself, around rape, black people and toddler.

>In the end which do you side with?

Told you : scotland wants its repetitive beats back. IRA's pretty big on "kiwypipo" too.

How does it feel to be bitch fail on a planet? SOOOOOO sympathetic, lol, kys to exit yet?



wrong thread.



whoops sorry lol

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