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 No.1[Reply]

Ecological collapse is a non-partisan issue.

This board is a forum for discussion of ecological/environmental politics. Please be civil.



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 No.1340[Reply]

>he doesn’t want to live in an anprim paradise

Pic related

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 No.1372

>>1371

>not wanting to have hot, sweaty jungle sex like animals

don't need to be primitive for that.


 No.1376

>>1371

>>dying at the age of thirty

while the average life expectancy of a primitive human is around 35, the statistic takes in account the high mortality rate of infants. once one has developed, the life expectancy isn't very different than a modern, civilized human.


 No.1384

>>1376

>once one has developed, the life expectancy isn't very different than a modern, civilized human.

Obviously people didn't actually die at 35 but it would have been very rare for anyone but a pampered nobleman to live to the average life expectancy nowadays. Too much malnutrition, too much hard work into old age, no real medical care to treat simple conditions. Even keeping old people alive nowadays is a massive social and medical effort.


 No.1385

>>1360

That makes it hotter


 No.1395

this thread is now about primmie waifu art.




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 No.811[Reply]

How do we get rid of the nazis on this board?

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 No.1390

>>1373

one can be racist and be not collectivist


 No.1391

>>1390

If you like. It depends on your perspective.

I.e: If you wanted children and recognising race it then becomes a requirement to avoid miscegenation because the unique combination of recessive and dominant traits your blood line has, as a product of your race, requires an approximate match in the partner to be inherited properly. Think breeds of dogs Vs mongrels. Unless you want mongrel offspring for some reason? Otherwise miscegenation is a terrible thing to inflict on your offspring.

We are not islands but part of a great river flowing from the past (ancestors) through the present (us) into the future (children). We are quite literally the living embodiment of our people. Individual qualities are important but they have a context. That context is the river of our people and our purpose is its survival and improvement through individual qualities and effort transmitted biologically and culturally to the future via the children of our people including our own.

Individualism Vs collectivism is a false choice.


 No.1392

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>>1391

we're hitting levels of spooks that shouldn't even be possible…


 No.1393

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>>1392

>so spooked you think biology is a spook


 No.1394

>>1391

>I.e: If you wanted children and recognising race it then becomes a requirement to seek miscegenation because the unique combination of IQ scores your royal blood line has

k. how many layers of purity u on?




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 No.810[Reply]

>da joos are da reason da world is being destroyed

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 No.1365

>>810

the jews are

>>816

the people with money are (bourgeoise)

>>818

the "white" males

I really don't get how leftypol and pol don't see eye to eye on this.


 No.1375

>>1365

Were both pissed off. Just at different people.

The difference is that we are correct.


 No.1377

>>1375

no you fucking retard, the jews ARE the capitalists


 No.1378

>>1375

If you read kevin macdonalds book you would know this

cofnas pratically concedes this point


 No.1389

>>1377

The jew is far more than just capitalist or marxist. They function more like HIV.

>>1378

I have read it. It told me what i already knew tbh. But what do you mean, anon?




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 No.297[Reply]

Communalism will win.

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 No.960

PAID Poster…


 No.1380


 No.1383

Just do what I do: blame all naziposters on the people who really want to believe they're righteously fighting nazis. That way the more nazi the board appears, the more potent antifa looks. I'm not worried about accidentally empowering nazis by blaming antifa. Antifa isn't the most popular organization, but nazis are still only a few hundred damp losers per first world country.

Incluso las naciones atrasadas han comenzado a notar que el fascismo es estúpido. Solo China todavía está experimentando seriamente con el fascismo hoy. India tiene algunas políticas invasivas, pero las están reduciendo con el tiempo a medida que surgen oportunidades. Mientras tanto, China está preparando un sistema demasiado rígido para reconocerse en un espejo. Hacen que su gente esté demasiado cansada para trabajar y demasiado temerosa para reportar fallas. Siguen haciendo estas cosas a lo largo de la historia. Es sorprendente cómo la civilización más antigua ha quedado atrapada en largos ciclos de autodestrucción a lo largo de su historia. Los líderes chinos realmente intentan pensar a largo plazo, pero hay una diferencia entre intentar y tener éxito. Algunas veces, hacer todo lo posible solo resulta en ver explotar a tus nietos.

Hay otras naciones además de China que podrían aprender una lección sobre políticas que solo resultan en ver a los nietos de uno explotar. Si quieres hacer una diferencia que dure trescientos años, forja metales, corta piedras y planta bosques. Recuerde también que la gente es sapient. Viven y hablan por sus propios fines. Si desea vivir en prosperidad, busque alinear sus propósitos con los demás y encuentre lo que alinearía los propósitos de los demás con los suyos.


 No.1386

Commushitism never works on a large scale because people aren't equal

Ecofascism is the future


 No.1387

Kek to libtards saying Hitler was a shit artist when he managed to create a movement that pushed artists to draw mindblowing fashion, industrial a'd graphic designs




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 No.3[Reply]

Anyone here vegetarian?

How long does it take before you lose the desire to eat meat?

I'm thinking about becoming pescetarian.

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 No.1082

>>994

'raw vegan' is just some dumb hippie shit though, vegans can have a perfectly normal diet.


 No.1244

>>3

>Anyone here vegetarian?

No but I am thinking about it though.


 No.1245

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>>3

Yes! I've been for about three years now; and I don't actively crave it anymore. One in a while I still crave the sense indulgence of consuming flesh food, but it's only a weak and passing craving. It's rather like giving up smoking dope or drinking alcohol, which I also quit a few years back.


 No.1334

Quitting meat is easy. Honestly, people make it sound way harder than it actually is. If you have more discipline than a 1st-grader, it's easy.

Now, quitting dairy on the hand, is much harder. Milk/eggs are in much more products than meat is, and often find their ways into products where they aren't 100% necessary.


 No.1379

>>3

I was vegan for like a week but then my family pressured me into eating a piece of pizza and I've been back to normal for like 2 weeks.

Going back to vegan today I guess.

Also being vegan isn't healthy long term. There isn't a way to naturally get vitamin B12 or creatine in your diet, and I want my muscles to be big and swole.




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 No.7[Reply]

daily reminder that uncle Ted did nothing wrong

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 No.1350

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>>1279

To know a thing well, see how it behaves over time. You have no where to hide and no excuses to make. You have shown us what you are.

INB4 buh mah snowflake ideeuhs hav nevuh peen triedd!

They have been tried more than enough. Everything you believe has failed utterly.


 No.1355

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>>1350

Remember all those times fascism was tried? Didn't work too well either. I guess we should just stay with capitalism, that seems to have lasted the longest!


 No.1362

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>>1355

>Remember all those times fascism was tried?

Im a National Socialist, not a Fascist.

I remember when National Socialism was tried. It worked brilliantly, until Capitalists and Communists conspired to tear it down with overwhelming force. Is this the future they fought for, anon?


 No.1370

>>1362

Ohhh, you mean like how the hub of world capitalism has attacked or orchestrated dozens of right-wing coups against socialist governments in the 20th century?


 No.1374

>>1370

Yes.




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 No.1270[Reply]

>Board made to discuss how to protect the environment

>Both /keftypol/ and /pol/ use it to personally attack one another

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 No.1345

>>1284

But like retards they still fight each other and the capitalists win.


 No.1351

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>>1284

Yeah supposedly but /pol/ are just capitalists who want themselves to be the masters


 No.1354

>>1345

>the capitalists win

where? when?


 No.1361

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>>1351

Your problem is that you think there is only one (Marxist) way of being opposed to capitalism.


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 No.1249[Reply]

antinatalism is the only true way to stop destroying wildlife

so we need to stop sending aid to africa because niggers breed like cockroaches, we need to wait for niggers to die due to draughts

moreover ponzi scheme social security should be baned and politicians should pay for their deeds

 No.1332

bump


 No.1364

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>>1249

when will lefties see that immigration is shit for environment

it is literally done to saturate job markets and oppress the proliteriat to keep growth at its breakneck pace


 No.1367

>>1364

rapefugees dont work




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 No.1323[Reply]

Remember live aid back in the 80's? Remember the pictures of starving nogs covered in flies? remember (((Bob Geldof))) demanding money and that awful concert that everybody pretends was great? Remember how so many gave so much to save the niglets? Remember how just a few years later there was ANOTHER famine and more begging?

Well this thread is to talk about what went wrong, why nothing really changed and how this affects the bigger picture.

By feeding, watering, medicating the starving population we allowed more of the population to survive.

By drilling more and deeper wells for them we continued to drain the aquifers instead of allowing them to recover.

By sending them replacement cattle and helping them rebuild their farms we increased desertification.

Our misplaced altruism, exploited by self publicists, has been a major factor in the ongoing ecological mess that is the horn of Africa and elsewhere. It is a major factor in continued famines that seem to occur two or three times a decade.

Our absurd altruism has created an ecological imbalance by allowing too many niggers to live than would other wise be sustainable in that environment. This has caused MORE suffering, if you must care for that hopeless race.

Wat du?

Sustain the nogs with resources they are unable to provide for themselves at the expense of the environment?

Stop sustaining their population, let it collapse and allow a more natural balance to reassert itself at the expense of our conscience?

The issue raised by this example applies globally: Altruism Vs Ecology.

 No.1366

>>1323

>Remember back in the 80's? Remember when all you had to fap to was starving nog toddlers covered in flies?

I do, actually.




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 No.854[Reply]

Daily reminder that climate change will only be solved through international solidarity and collaboration, not division over skin color or nationality. The reactionary stance on race is counterproductive, enforces the status quo and fixes nothing.

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 No.1114

niggers and chinks ruin the environment


 No.1162

>>1057

My coherent but controversial reply got deleted again.

Y tho? lol


 No.1322

>>879

Surely once these third worlders reach a western standard of living and embrace western culture, they will care about the environment too! Overpopulation is a white people problem, never mind the fact that over 90% of pollution enters the ocean through rivers in Asia!


 No.1359

I don't hate any people, I just want them to be those people somewhere else


 No.1381

>>854

Denial of race science (or sub-population science, or human biological diversity, or whatever you want to call it) is just as despicable as denial of environmental science.




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 No.894[Reply]

Please tell me you don't believe that capitalism is good for the environment.

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 No.1195

It's a true mark of a retard if they believe that just because the near multi-century capitalist elite of industrialized nations outsourced their economic manufacturing sectors to the developing/industrializing nations in the 70s that this somehow implies that the "west"/"north" is ecologically sustainable. Clean Canadian/Scandinavian/Latvian streets in exchange for billions of smartphones burned in Africa/Asia. Well, guess what - we share the same biosphere, fucko. As the economic elite (US & allies) keeps incentivizing developing nations to fuck the environment up, eventually turning the temperate climates of the north/west into a subtropical one, Aede mosquitos (carriers of the Zika virus) will migrate too, blessing the exploiting northwesterners with the humanitarian disasters safely isolated to "over-there-istan". Shit seems to need to get fucking grimey for workers to revolt in industrialized regions, as the capitalists pacify them so effectively with cutting-edge technological entertainment to cement a perpetual routine of pointless escapism whenever not under the thumb of the work-hour. But I can guarantee you as your northwestern population needs to start battling the fucking Zika virus globalization of extreme water contamination and smog of which the local industrialists are directly responsible

then be sure to provide the munition


 No.1256

Of course not, but neither is Communism.


 No.1272

If all land was privately owned, there would no longer be a tragedy of the commons. But would there be more or less pollution overall?

Pollution is trespassing, so polluters would have to make financial arrangements with all affected landowners or face legal liability.

This financial and legal pressure could result in less pollution.

Without public lands, there would be no guarantee that certain areas would be protected from development. Wilderness areas and national parks would probably be smaller / more commercialized. Environmental groups could buy and preserve land themselves, but they'd be unable to secure as much land as the feds currently hold.


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 No.1348

>>1272

>If all land was privately owned

M8 . . .




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 No.1173[Reply]

Despite being the one of the few powerful "porkies" who cares about the state of planet?

His Tesla company, whilst never going to be competitive with big auto, showed that electric cars can be economical and competitive with internal combustion and is responsible for spurring bigger players in the car industry to invest heavily in electric drive trains for their future models.

His boring+Hyperloop idea, if successful, will make intercontinental air travel redundant, which is responsible for a quarter of all emissions in the US. An intercontinental hyperloop system would be carbon neutral

Tesla is pioneering the use of batteries in decentralized solar based grids.

His batteries has the lowest quantity of cobalt, which is enabling better inefficiencies, lower prices and higher energy densities, whilst cutting down on the use of conflict minerals.

Is the left hatred of someone as benign and ecological conscience as Elon Musk proof that theyre using environmental issues for political ends?

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 No.1338

>>1325

You mean who's appropriating the value the workers created and decided how much they deserve back? That would be the greedy union-busting capitalist taking credit for all their work.


 No.1339

>>1338

Oh yeah, because coordinating a multi-billion, multi-national corporation (in quite possibly the riskiest modern industry) is such an easy task. Why haven't you done it?


 No.1342

>>1339

Ah yes, such a difficult task that he deserves over 10x the salary of his other workers. What a guy!


 No.1346

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>>1342

>man puts more funding and effort into environmentally-friendly tech than most burger or europoor (((socialists)))

>none of this matters to shitters because he takes a big paycheck

>nevermind that his designers and engineers are probably well paid

So far I've seen barely any discussion from the lefty anons here about how to actually solve our environmental problems, only autistic screeching about non-lefties taking over their niche. Even the /pol/ shitposters stay on topic more often.


 No.1347

>>1342

Elon doesnt get a salary

https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-salary/

His wealth only comes from his holdings in Spacex and Hes an example of an asset rich, cash poor billionaire. I bet his daily expenditure is comparable to a multimillionaire. If his companies sink, hell be a poor man multi millionaire once again.




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 No.1197[Reply]

What does /ecopol/ think of the degrowht movement?

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 No.1331

>>1305

in 1st world there are less and less people, if not for soros and his rapefugees we would have zero or negative growth


 No.1333

>>1305

Capitalism itself does not necessarily require growth; in fact, if left alone, it'd probably an equilibrium of consumption and production (because the marginal benefit of producing something new becomes less than the cost of performing that work).

Keynesianism, however, actually does require endless growth to continue functioning. This is because consumption is artificially increased through inflation of the money supply. So, to stay at your current standard of living (as the value of your savings dwindle), you have to constantly perform work to make up for it. Additionally, inflating the money supply makes loans unnaturally easy to get, essentially encouraging an unnaturally large amount of people to take business risks.


 No.1335

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>>1333

Capitalism with market competition at least absolutely demands constant growth. Those firms which don't grow are destined to die or be bought out by their competition. As the value of commodities falls due to innovations in productivity, capitalist businesses feel a constant pressure to produce more and sell more to make up for it. Even your average neoclassical/neoliberal economic will tell you that a country that isn't experiencing GDP growth is in serious trouble.


 No.1336

>>1333

It's right in the name by the way:

capital - the self-expansion of value

Economic systems with this as their central focus are known as capital-ism.


 No.1337

>>1224

Deurbanisation is literally worse for the environment than the alternative. You think that it's better for everyone to live out on a ranch spread out across 40 acres and have them drive their 4x4 20 miles every time they need to buy something? It's rural and semi rural living we need to be eliminating.




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 No.1287[Reply]

Anyone in this board not a fascist, know you're a retard, and your retarded system either plays the good guy for public attention, or happened to "harbor" ecologists when looking for new recruits (prostituting the politics behind, as communism always do).

Capitalism and communism are both materially irresponsible ideologies that will fucking destroy the Earth and themselves, whoever wins in the ballots.

So, if you're not abandoning your semitic mindset, and join the third position, fucking off yourself. Like, can you ignorant fools even describe what fascism is? Other than strawmen please, I don't want to hear your facebook-tier copy-pastes of a response. Thanks for your time.

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 No.1301

>>1300

Force is real.


 No.1303

>>1287

This

If your philosophy doesn't require you to live within the laws of nature it's mere idealism. Utopia will never occur, life is Kampf.


 No.1314

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>>1287

National Socialism isn’t Fascism, Evolafag.

Lets not fight in front of the children though


 No.1315

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>>1295

>Fascism is idealist

>don’t harm my profits

Anon . . .


 No.1330

>centrally planned economy

topkek




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