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 No.1[Reply]

Ecological collapse is a non-partisan issue.

This board is a forum for discussion of ecological/environmental politics. Please be civil.



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 No.831[Reply]

Does /ecopol/ grow their own food?

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 No.955

Live by forage, but multiple grow operations in council communism. Know and help the local guerilla farm op.


 No.992

>>955

How does one find a 'local guerilla farm op"?


 No.1318

I have some fruits and vegetables. I love pumpkin soup cause it's good for us. Everyone should have their own outdoor and indoor garden.


 No.1329

>>992

Look for the pasty dudes trying to grow weed in the city park.

>>1318

>indoor gardens

Less necessary when you have lots of outdoor space, but I guess it could help in the winter.


 No.1514

>>831

Yes, I have one blueberry plant in pot and I tends to propagate the blueberry plants in the future.




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 No.404[Reply]

You need to either bomb or invade forcing anti-litter/polluting laws third world countries. Until you commie faggots address them, I don't give a shit about what Shlomo Sheckelstein is doing to the environment, as it is still significantly less than what pajeet and ching chong (including Japanese whalers and Chinese pollution) do daily though it does infuriate me that Jews actively poison our food to make us more complacent/kill us over time. Your move soyboys.

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 No.460

>>442

I know, I'm just trying to get past this guys commie doublethink. Former commies make the best /pol/a/k/s.


 No.1406

>>460

That is actually very true!


 No.1415

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The "third world" is a colony of the industrial north.


 No.1416

>>404

ocean should be privatized


 No.1513

>>404

To avoid this problem is to force them to pay a fee to require one birth permission at 25 years old. The money earnings from the fees will be used to fund the sterilisations for the parents whom already have one child.




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 No.31[Reply]

Greetings, /ecopol/. I’m a Posadist here to mention my own personal thoughts on adapting Posadism for the 21st century.

The core belief of Posadism is that Capitalism is entrenched to the point of it being ‘too big to fail,’ requiring the power of nuclear Armageddon to destroy the infrastructure of Capital outright. Posadas came up with these ideas during the Cold War, of course.

I’m proposing that the depletion of oil and natural gas go hand in hand with the collapse of Capitalism. The OECD predicts that Capitalism will collapse by ~2060, almost 10 years after oil runs out in ~2052, and natural gas will run out around 2060. Coal will be the last fossil fuel remaining, running out ~2088.

Mind you that those numbers are only from one site, I found different numbers from a different website. My second source reads that oil and natural gas will be gone by 2042, it assigning 35 and 37 years from its publishing in 2009 mean that the years would be 2044 and 2046, respectively. The year it gives for coal is 2112. With both articles, a similar trend is followed- oil depletes first, with natural gas’s depletion not too long after, while coal holds out for at least a few decades before it's gone.

Thoughts?

Article 1:

https://www.ecotricity.co.uk/our-green-energy/energy-independence/the-end-of-fossil-fuels

Article 2:

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301421508004126

Capitalism’s collapse by ~2060:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jul/07/capitalism-rich-poor-2060-populations-technology-human-rights-inequality

https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/11/peak-capitPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.314

>>31

I definitely agree with this. We need a revised Posadism that focuses less on nukes and more on capitalism's environmental catastrophe as the means for revolution. Fresh water is a major resource to keep in mind that will spur many of our problems in the future. Only the ayy lmaos can save us now.


 No.333

>>314

I just realized as thinking about this, how will we solve the energy crisis that would come with such depletion of the fossil fuels. My answer for this hear me out is Nuclear Fission recycling and the Nuclear Fusion.

I understand that with mismanaged Fission power is very pollutant. But instead of the wasteful disposal of spent rods, why can't we produce recycling process to use more fissionable resources. Hell I am even thinking that all the nuclear material in the Nukes being dismantled be good source of energy until we can harness the Fusion technology in the mean time.

Reason I thought of this was when I was thinking about wars what else would they be fought for, of course energy! What do all those resources like oil, coal, and natural gas do provide us with a sort of energy, but because of how captialism works we pull out more resource and use it ineffectively. I believe also in a revised Posadist thought should be the effective use of resources that produce energy.

Again if we do this as a collective we can achieve K1 Civilization without having to go full on nuke the planet, and prevent total destruction of the environment.


 No.340

>>283

>I still believe that the nukes may still drop, but a race war unlikely due to a lack of a material basis.

people only align under racial and tribal basis when fighting for food, water and living space. there will be proletarian revolution. only race war.


 No.341

>>340

there will be no* proletarian revolution (because the proletariat and bourgeoisie will cease to exist in the ensuing chaos)*


 No.1512

>>31

>Coal will be the last fossil fuel remaining, running out ~2088.

By that time Australia is probably conquered similar to annexed Canada in fallout game cause the coal is abundant in Australia just like Thorium is.




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 No.1429[Reply]

I'll start things off. Specifically the issue I want to address is removing the "leftism" tag under the board data in search, unless a "rightism" or similar tag is added. It is blatantly hypocritical to ignore this on an explicitly "non-partisan" board (so says the sticky). Can there possibly be a good reason for not doing this? unless this board was created in bad faith and is just another attempt to siphon off users from /pol/

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 No.1479

>>1477

Generally left wingers tend to support big business which causes the most environmental destruction too. What's your point?


 No.1481

>>1479

Historically environmentalism and the right are strange bedfellows is my point, notwithstanding the green oddities of nazism


 No.1485

>>1481

So are environmentalism and the left. You're not making an argument for why the board should be tagged leftist and be full of commies who want to rape the earth.


 No.1510

>>1481

No, Conservation used to be a Conservative movement. Neither the Left or the Right are pro environment. Pro Corporate and pro mass immigration are both terrible for the planet.


 No.1511

Anyone know of a place on the internet, forum, social media, blog or wherever that is receptive to the concept of depopulation as a means of saving the planet from ecological disaster?

Or email me

depopulation@airmail.cc




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 No.1509[Reply]

what did they mean by this?



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 No.1469[Reply]

Who and Why?

 No.1495

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I would select ME! After many years working in Research & Development on many technologically successful projects like:

- The very first comprehensive system for the bioremediation (applying processes of nature to remove contaminants) of eutrophic water bodies and watersheds. I know how to make a toilet like Lake Elsinore in California clean as a whistle in approximately 25-30 years. The system is designed to offset it's own costs by selling the output of the processes within the system.

AND

- The Biomass Engine - An scalable enclosed system that continuously harvests algae from an algae culture at the same rate at which it grows to output a continuous stream of algae 24/7/365. Without such an algae/algae oil production capability, algae based biofuels are not economically feasible.(USP# 9051539).

I have come to understand that the primary reason for conflict over the environment is intellectual laziness, egotism, selfishness and all other aspects of human nature by both sides due to both sides operating from their beliefs, instead of from the facts. As a planet, in the past people made a profit by contaminating the environment for gain without modifying their activities over time. Now, humanity has figured out that it is technologically possible to make a profit by applying systems and technology to clean up the mess that previous generations profited by making.

The BIG problem is that companies (all of them) have a lifecycle and that cycle ends (the company fails) when whatever they do is supplanted by new, better technology that is constantly evolving and improving. Yet, like the petroleum industry, when the end of the lifecycle of petroleum was made possible by the Biomass Engine, like all living entities Big Oil will protect itself from becoming obsolete and dying with everything it has available. Like the economic and technological suppression that has been keeping me basically dead broke and in limbo since 2009 when I informed then President Obama of our success in making the technological breakthrough he had been begging humanity to make to save us from Climate Change he was falsely blaming humanity (and CO2 laughably)Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


 No.1508

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>>1495

based go-getting eco-boomer

you sound rather interesting to talk to, and i'd love to learn more about climate and eco-related science from actual scientists. do you have any contact information? i know i could dox you through the us patent no. you posted but i want to make sure you want to talk too.




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 No.1507[Reply]

Communism will save the planet.



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 No.1407[Reply]

I work at a conservation corp for high school dropouts, ask me anything.

This is also a charter school combo, which I am now a graduate for.

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 No.1413

>>1407

>conservation corp for high school dropouts

I have no idea what this is. Can you explain what you do?


 No.1424

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>>1411

I needed to go the fuck back to school, and they were merciful, since you could get your diploma until 25, I was 21 when I graduated.

A few months before that I found out I had ADHD, and it made sense, since in previous schools I either had straight A's or straight F's. Thought I was just a dumbass.

At first I was uncomfortable, but slowly but surely I ended up meeting a lot of cool people, they were closer to thug-like normalfags, but the more I knew them, the more closer they were to regular normalfags. You find people on all sides of the political spectrum here, it's nuts.

As for the rest, we go to many different places, like conservation forests, trails, hikes and place like morongo reserve and big bear lake. It's a really great job for being so entry level.

>>1413

We work with the Southern California Mountains foundation, we help the environment, pretty much have fuckups and dropouts sign up for school, give them a second chance in life and have them work on the field to gain experience and build up to become Tier 2 conservation folk, like forest firefighters.


 No.1425

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>>1424

Sounds interesting, anon.

Will you be taking up forest management or something similar as a career? Working with nature is something i always wanted to do. Its a great healer and its refreshingly free of the hyper-stimulation of the modern hamster wheel called civilisation.


 No.1498

>>1425

I'll be becoming a naturalist!


 No.1506

One of my coworkers was Conservation Corp for a number of years. It has treated him well and taught him a lot of neat tricks, in addition to general knowledge like a great work ethic.

I have 2 questions for you OP

What do you plan to do after CC? Have you considered joining a trade union such as United Steel Workers?




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 No.344[Reply]

This is a thread for the general discussion of green libertarian philosophy. This includes communalism, green anarchism, anarcho-primitivism, ecosocialism, libertarian municipalism, and other philosophies.

In line with the philosophy of the board board, don't shitpost; this thread is for serious discussion and comfy feelings.

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 No.1474

How do we get green issues to become election issues?


 No.1482

>>1474

I mean, the homeless kind of REQUIRE nature to camp in. Maybe we should help them vote.


 No.1483

>>1482

Oh but how do you get conservative people to have environmental issues as their core issues?


 No.1503

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>>1459

But Rojava IS communist. They're both failures.


 No.1504

>>1483

It is their core issue. You are confusing neocohens with conservatives. Teddy Roosevelt was a conservative. Reagan was a Trotskyist neocon.




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 No.36[Reply]

>California is on fire

>Google, Facebook, and i think Amazon are there

>Mad max means not having to go to work. Id rather grill toads on the Barbie and chop wood than do my 40 hour cuckoldry

>Boomers die instantly unable to obtain meds

>Many middle class white people have heroin withdraw

>It's fucking funny seeing neet mods unable to cope and they can't just ban the giant wasps and atrocious weather

 No.44

>tfw cure for the tree eating beetle shits is a massive effort to plant new plants in areas that won't interfere with the rest of the natural vegetation but because of the word flower it's assumed to be a pipe dream


 No.1502

test




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 No.1496[Reply]

Only communism can save the planet.

 No.1497

Then why did USSR destroy Aral Sea?


 No.1499

>>1497

Not OP but prolly cause it wasn’t the “real” communism


 No.1501

>>1497

The Aral Sea was a Trotskyist wrecker.




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 No.1154[Reply]

Why do we even let crapitalists on this board? If you support capitalism you are inherently supporting a system that is designed to turn the environment into fuel for the elite. You can't be pro-environment without being Communist.

Also, How the hell is ecological collapse "non-partisan"? Climate change is irreversibly damaging our ecology because of the continued election of rignt-wing climate change deniers worldwide.

If any of you want to actually have a chance at saving the environment, accept that Global Communism is inevitable.

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 No.1488

>>1487

Natsoc is all powerful state and worse than the other two combined


 No.1489

>>1488

ironic get


 No.1491

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>>1154

>If any of you want to actually have a chance at saving the environment, accept that Global Communism is inevitable.

>the most inefficient and wasteful ideology in existence is going to save the environment


 No.1492

>>1488

How is an all powerful state worse than an all powerful state and an all powerful finance class combined?


 No.1500

>>1154

It’s so partisan mainly cause many on the right are christards and think that we can’t ruin the environment and only god can, or want us to to bring about the end times. Also in general a lot of religious people have a distrust and misunderstanding of science and climate change.




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 No.1443[Reply]

Shitskins and Pollution, Waste, Deforestation etc

TL;DR:

Shitskins are destroying the planet. All global pollution and waste disposed of carelessly into the environment originate in shitskin countries.

These barely evolved sub-humans are praised as environmentally friendly "noble savages" by the globalists the modern right wing is as bad as the left, at this point no distinction is necessary, yet after decades of modern technology they've done nothing but transform their own countries into waste-ridden hellscapes, and are now actively working on using their filth emittance to destroy the rest of the planet too.

What pathway can Whites take to defend our mortal realm from these vile, Midgard-destroying creatures?

The implementation of ecologically friendly energy sources and production processes in our own lands is completely pointless; these sub-humans would continue to rapidly destroy the planet. While they possess modern technology, White imperialism is the only option to curtail their filth production, but do we really want to spend any of our resources on babysitting total retards who shit on their own streets?

No, the developing world has to be prevented from becoming developed at all costs. We all know that these people are racially incapable of empathy and too unintelligent not to destroy their own homes with filth. A "developed" third world is an industrialized third world, not an ecologically caring third world.

When the third world enters full industrialization, our planet and the vast majority of life on it will be doomed.

The third world has to be completely deprived of all resources – all medical aid ceased, all food aid ceased, all trade ceased, all commerce ceased. We sanction the entire developing planet and then enforce environmental policy, or de-industrialization via threat of absolute total war.

 No.1444

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 No.1494

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>>1443

they misplelt nigger lmao


 No.1505

I say nuke 'em.




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 No.132[Reply]

Posting an old screencap of an idea with how we can deal with niggers, kikes, and probably some /leftypol/ enemies. Would you think it could be an effective idea to appeal to both sides while spreading our message about caring for the environment? Of course it's not as effective as conventional weaponry but it looks like it could still get the job done. Using actual weapons would obviously be too lethal and get us thrown in jail more often in most cases. Can ecoterrorism be related to bioterrorism? We could manipulate how many flies hang out around a person's house and make them be more likely to cause havoc inside their house, etc. Just an idea.

I know it's kinda related to the ecoterrorism threads we already have on here, but in this we should discuss methods, ideas, etc.

TLDR: Nature is on our side and we can weaponize her. Should we and is it worth it?

 No.167

Seedbombing sounds like fun but I'm not sure as to how effective mass seedbombing would be in solving ecological issues… outside of making overgrown yards more overgrown


 No.1471

>>132

why do we want to destroy the nig's houses? we the taxpayer will just end up having to buy them new ones and sacrifice another white neighbourhood for niggification?


 No.1472

Dumbest idea and will only come back to fuck up your own properties and bushland


 No.1490

>>1472

>if there were plants, it would fuck up your private property

Are you sure you're on the right board?


 No.1493

>>1490

>what are invasive weeds

You need to go back




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