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Ecological collapse is a non-partisan issue.

This board is a forum for discussion of ecological/environmental politics. Please be civil.

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Communism will save the planet.

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I work at a conservation corp for high school dropouts, ask me anything.

This is also a charter school combo, which I am now a graduate for.

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>conservation corp for high school dropouts

I have no idea what this is. Can you explain what you do?


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I needed to go the fuck back to school, and they were merciful, since you could get your diploma until 25, I was 21 when I graduated.

A few months before that I found out I had ADHD, and it made sense, since in previous schools I either had straight A's or straight F's. Thought I was just a dumbass.

At first I was uncomfortable, but slowly but surely I ended up meeting a lot of cool people, they were closer to thug-like normalfags, but the more I knew them, the more closer they were to regular normalfags. You find people on all sides of the political spectrum here, it's nuts.

As for the rest, we go to many different places, like conservation forests, trails, hikes and place like morongo reserve and big bear lake. It's a really great job for being so entry level.


We work with the Southern California Mountains foundation, we help the environment, pretty much have fuckups and dropouts sign up for school, give them a second chance in life and have them work on the field to gain experience and build up to become Tier 2 conservation folk, like forest firefighters.


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Sounds interesting, anon.

Will you be taking up forest management or something similar as a career? Working with nature is something i always wanted to do. Its a great healer and its refreshingly free of the hyper-stimulation of the modern hamster wheel called civilisation.



I'll be becoming a naturalist!


One of my coworkers was Conservation Corp for a number of years. It has treated him well and taught him a lot of neat tricks, in addition to general knowledge like a great work ethic.

I have 2 questions for you OP

What do you plan to do after CC? Have you considered joining a trade union such as United Steel Workers?

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This is a thread for the general discussion of green libertarian philosophy. This includes communalism, green anarchism, anarcho-primitivism, ecosocialism, libertarian municipalism, and other philosophies.

In line with the philosophy of the board board, don't shitpost; this thread is for serious discussion and comfy feelings.

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How do we get green issues to become election issues?



I mean, the homeless kind of REQUIRE nature to camp in. Maybe we should help them vote.



Oh but how do you get conservative people to have environmental issues as their core issues?


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But Rojava IS communist. They're both failures.



It is their core issue. You are confusing neocohens with conservatives. Teddy Roosevelt was a conservative. Reagan was a Trotskyist neocon.

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>California is on fire

>Google, Facebook, and i think Amazon are there

>Mad max means not having to go to work. Id rather grill toads on the Barbie and chop wood than do my 40 hour cuckoldry

>Boomers die instantly unable to obtain meds

>Many middle class white people have heroin withdraw

>It's fucking funny seeing neet mods unable to cope and they can't just ban the giant wasps and atrocious weather


>tfw cure for the tree eating beetle shits is a massive effort to plant new plants in areas that won't interfere with the rest of the natural vegetation but because of the word flower it's assumed to be a pipe dream



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Only communism can save the planet.


Then why did USSR destroy Aral Sea?



Not OP but prolly cause it wasn’t the “real” communism



The Aral Sea was a Trotskyist wrecker.

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Why do we even let crapitalists on this board? If you support capitalism you are inherently supporting a system that is designed to turn the environment into fuel for the elite. You can't be pro-environment without being Communist.

Also, How the hell is ecological collapse "non-partisan"? Climate change is irreversibly damaging our ecology because of the continued election of rignt-wing climate change deniers worldwide.

If any of you want to actually have a chance at saving the environment, accept that Global Communism is inevitable.

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Natsoc is all powerful state and worse than the other two combined



ironic get


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>If any of you want to actually have a chance at saving the environment, accept that Global Communism is inevitable.

>the most inefficient and wasteful ideology in existence is going to save the environment



How is an all powerful state worse than an all powerful state and an all powerful finance class combined?



It’s so partisan mainly cause many on the right are christards and think that we can’t ruin the environment and only god can, or want us to to bring about the end times. Also in general a lot of religious people have a distrust and misunderstanding of science and climate change.

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Shitskins and Pollution, Waste, Deforestation etc


Shitskins are destroying the planet. All global pollution and waste disposed of carelessly into the environment originate in shitskin countries.

These barely evolved sub-humans are praised as environmentally friendly "noble savages" by the globalists the modern right wing is as bad as the left, at this point no distinction is necessary, yet after decades of modern technology they've done nothing but transform their own countries into waste-ridden hellscapes, and are now actively working on using their filth emittance to destroy the rest of the planet too.

What pathway can Whites take to defend our mortal realm from these vile, Midgard-destroying creatures?

The implementation of ecologically friendly energy sources and production processes in our own lands is completely pointless; these sub-humans would continue to rapidly destroy the planet. While they possess modern technology, White imperialism is the only option to curtail their filth production, but do we really want to spend any of our resources on babysitting total retards who shit on their own streets?

No, the developing world has to be prevented from becoming developed at all costs. We all know that these people are racially incapable of empathy and too unintelligent not to destroy their own homes with filth. A "developed" third world is an industrialized third world, not an ecologically caring third world.

When the third world enters full industrialization, our planet and the vast majority of life on it will be doomed.

The third world has to be completely deprived of all resources – all medical aid ceased, all food aid ceased, all trade ceased, all commerce ceased. We sanction the entire developing planet and then enforce environmental policy, or de-industrialization via threat of absolute total war.


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they misplelt nigger lmao


I say nuke 'em.

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Posting an old screencap of an idea with how we can deal with niggers, kikes, and probably some /leftypol/ enemies. Would you think it could be an effective idea to appeal to both sides while spreading our message about caring for the environment? Of course it's not as effective as conventional weaponry but it looks like it could still get the job done. Using actual weapons would obviously be too lethal and get us thrown in jail more often in most cases. Can ecoterrorism be related to bioterrorism? We could manipulate how many flies hang out around a person's house and make them be more likely to cause havoc inside their house, etc. Just an idea.

I know it's kinda related to the ecoterrorism threads we already have on here, but in this we should discuss methods, ideas, etc.

TLDR: Nature is on our side and we can weaponize her. Should we and is it worth it?


Seedbombing sounds like fun but I'm not sure as to how effective mass seedbombing would be in solving ecological issues… outside of making overgrown yards more overgrown



why do we want to destroy the nig's houses? we the taxpayer will just end up having to buy them new ones and sacrifice another white neighbourhood for niggification?


Dumbest idea and will only come back to fuck up your own properties and bushland



>if there were plants, it would fuck up your private property

Are you sure you're on the right board?



>what are invasive weeds

You need to go back

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I'll start things off. Specifically the issue I want to address is removing the "leftism" tag under the board data in search, unless a "rightism" or similar tag is added. It is blatantly hypocritical to ignore this on an explicitly "non-partisan" board (so says the sticky). Can there possibly be a good reason for not doing this? unless this board was created in bad faith and is just another attempt to siphon off users from /pol/

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>only the environment matters

Then why does the BO ban anyone who isn't a communist?



I don't know, but generally right wingers tend to support big business which causes the most environmental destruction



Generally left wingers tend to support big business which causes the most environmental destruction too. What's your point?



Historically environmentalism and the right are strange bedfellows is my point, notwithstanding the green oddities of nazism



So are environmentalism and the left. You're not making an argument for why the board should be tagged leftist and be full of commies who want to rape the earth.

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Communalism will win.

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Kek to libtards saying Hitler was a shit artist when he managed to create a movement that pushed artists to draw mindblowing fashion, industrial a'd graphic designs



Read Critique of the Gotha Program. The focus of Communism is ‘from each according to his ability, to each according to need.’ No shit people aren’t equal, that’s why the point is allocating to everyone’s needs.


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To know a thing well see what it does over time. Not what it says, not what it occasionally does but what it usually does.

Contents beats label.



That's the problem you moron. "Take from the capable to give to the worthless bums" makes a shitty society.


Allegiance to a label doesn't matter. Work to leave the environment in a better condition then when you found it. That's all that matters.

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Who and Why?


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I would select ME! After many years working in Research & Development on many technologically successful projects like:

- The very first comprehensive system for the bioremediation (applying processes of nature to remove contaminants) of eutrophic water bodies and watersheds. I know how to make a toilet like Lake Elsinore in California clean as a whistle in approximately 25-30 years. The system is designed to offset it's own costs by selling the output of the processes within the system.


- The Biomass Engine - An scalable enclosed system that continuously harvests algae from an algae culture at the same rate at which it grows to output a continuous stream of algae 24/7/365. Without such an algae/algae oil production capability, algae based biofuels are not economically feasible.(USP# 9051539).

I have come to understand that the primary reason for conflict over the environment is intellectual laziness, egotism, selfishness and all other aspects of human nature by both sides due to both sides operating from their beliefs, instead of from the facts. As a planet, in the past people made a profit by contaminating the environment for gain without modifying their activities over time. Now, humanity has figured out that it is technologically possible to make a profit by applying systems and technology to clean up the mess that previous generations profited by making.

The BIG problem is that companies (all of them) have a lifecycle and that cycle ends (the company fails) when whatever they do is supplanted by new, better technology that is constantly evolving and improving. Yet, like the petroleum industry, when the end of the lifecycle of petroleum was made possible by the Biomass Engine, like all living entities Big Oil will protect itself from becoming obsolete and dying with everything it has available. Like the economic and technological suppression that has been keeping me basically dead broke and in limbo since 2009 when I informed then President Obama of our success in making the technological breakthrough he had been begging humanity to make to save us from Climate Change he was falsely blaming humanity (and CO2 laughably)Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Recycling is the final and least important part of the Reduce, Reuse, Recycle mantra, yet it also gets the most attention. If we reduce the amount of shit we break and toss out, we'll have less need for landfills and recycling while saving us more money in the long term.

How should we achieve this as a society and how can we make steps towards this in our personal lives? Ideally we should focus on making and buying higher quality, more durable goods, but this has some significant economic implications.

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If you want to talk about the ecological implications of genociding China instead of the thread's topic, why don't you make your own thread for it?



Reusable and repairable electronics:

I agree that more durable goods could be a good move. I recently saw a vintage ad for a car, where the selling point was durability and ease of maintenance. Now, completely disregarding and not arguing about too many cars etc., that is something You don't see now. Durability or lack of it isn't even discussed as consumers don't protest. And, for example in the case of consumer electronics, it's enforced that stuff will be obsolete (for example, unable to update even though the hardware has the technical capability). People buy stupid shit they don't need. But if that shit would last and 1 thing would fill needs and not just be another link in a "buy the new thing" chain, if things were modular or service'able instead of designed to go to the dumpster (even in the 90s more pointless goods were repaired rather than replaced by more chinese shit), it would reduce the waste in these areas, possibly noteworthy because of saving some rare resources (then again, these resources would be "freed" to make other consumer electronics so idk). But it would require EXTENSIVE action to promote a change in the way of thinking, people are shallow, uncreative and not willing to make an effort to fix their shit, they want instant gratification. Sorry for the wall of text

But that would be just change in one area, there are imho bigger problems like unneccessary plastic shit everywhere




I don't know everyone's stance on using wood, and the potential exploitation of forests in general, but I think for example giving incentives for people to use wooden shit to flip their pancakes, mix their soup and to sit on and whatever, instead of plastic, could be seen as a net positive on the environment, if the wood is sourced reasonably local and not flying in from China.

Does /ecopol/ agree with me that it could possibly do well for local economies and th global environment to replace imported plastic shit with local wooden ones (if we assume generally unchanged demand for goods in terms of quantity)? Or is it potential for a disaster



Bamboo is much more sustainable because it’s faster growing and can be grown in the US. We also import quite a bit of wood from NZ. But, wood is sustainable as long as it’s not wasted which happens a lot obviously. The key to all these problems is changing people’s mindsets and lifestyle which is no easy task. It doesn’t matter how green we are in the west so long as normalfags buy shit from China and the third world who are nigging up the whole planet unbeknownst to the western bugmen.



>Recycling is the final and least important part of the Reduce, Reuse, Recycle mantra

…until someone shows up strip-mining and dumps the heavy metals in your drinking water. Then, all of a sudden, you'd wish they'd haul shit out of the landfill instead.

Zero waste is good, though.

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Anyone here vegetarian?

How long does it take before you lose the desire to eat meat?

I'm thinking about becoming pescetarian.

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>Anyone here vegetarian?

No but I am thinking about it though.


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Yes! I've been for about three years now; and I don't actively crave it anymore. One in a while I still crave the sense indulgence of consuming flesh food, but it's only a weak and passing craving. It's rather like giving up smoking dope or drinking alcohol, which I also quit a few years back.


Quitting meat is easy. Honestly, people make it sound way harder than it actually is. If you have more discipline than a 1st-grader, it's easy.

Now, quitting dairy on the hand, is much harder. Milk/eggs are in much more products than meat is, and often find their ways into products where they aren't 100% necessary.



I was vegan for like a week but then my family pressured me into eating a piece of pizza and I've been back to normal for like 2 weeks.

Going back to vegan today I guess.

Also being vegan isn't healthy long term. There isn't a way to naturally get vitamin B12 or creatine in your diet, and I want my muscles to be big and swole.


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I quit on Hitler’s last birthday. He and Rudolf Hess were big, but not the only influencing factors. I had been weening myself of on to just pasture eggs for a year. Then Nasim shot up youtube at the same time I was reading an ama by a Rothschild where he said he only eats meat during rituals. All these galvanized the spiritual and moral reasons to abstain which has made it easy. I also abstain from legumes and fake democracy which make my diet Pythagorean, not vegetarian. If you stay away from phytoestrogens and eat the foods listed in the next reply, you won’t turn into a crazy soy.


>There isn't a way to naturally get vitamin B12 or creatine

Spirulina, chlorella, Klamath Lake Blue Green algae, hemp, and Sacha inchi have the full spectrum of B’s, amino acids, fatty acids and protein. Also it was probably the pizza crust that made you relapse tbh.


This. Not often but every now and again I catch a whiff an the blood lust will creep in. It’s easier to fend off than the urge to fap tbh.


Also this. Milk I never crave but I can’t hardly make it a week without a cheese relapse.


>tease him with a Bic Mac

>gmo soy

>saw dust

>immigrant shit

You at least could’ve lied and said steak. Joke’s on you fag.


>Vegetarianism is retarded and extremely unhealthy foPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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