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No.40362
I constantly see comments about how it's a cancer on MMOs, yet it seems like my taste in them is all wrong for finding it.
Predictably, most of the talk is about WoW, but I personally could never stomach the game, so never mind that.
The others I hear about are GW2 and TERA, which I didn't have any success with myself, and that's about it. What else have you all found, if anything?
No.40364
Darknest is a good site to check when it comes to ERP in MMOs.
Star Trek Online is quite notable for it, and to a lesser degree both Champions Online and Neverwinter.
It's surprisingly difficult to find in any other MMO.
No.40365
>>40364
I couldn't find very much in STO. Drozana seemed promising, but the local chapter of the Goonsquad have made themselves the Fun Police and bother anyone who even looks like they're ERPing.
No.40366
>>40364
have mmos just become to gamified? Or is the stigma against erping just too strong, do you think?
No.40367
>>40365
Join the Darknest channel, ask around.
>>40366
Both. Many people these days don't play MMOs for the community anymore. That mixed with the stigma against ERP kinda keeps things under wraps more often than not. Except in the case of WoW's Moon Guard, of course.
No.40368
The best I ever saw was CoH. I had this slutty supervillainess who could walk into the Pocket D and find herself a girlcock to suck pretty much every single night.
No.40371
I am more of a watcher than participant but where on STO's Drozana does the ERPing happen?
No.40378
>>40371
people typically don't want an audience. As for erp in-game then yeah your options are wow and find a guild for it or otherwise find a game with a darknest presence and float from single partner to single partner.
I could find a little fun on GW2 (the guild however was 100% reg circlejerk. No rp, no talk of it, nothing), swtor is completely dead for it as the social tools are just not there-
that's actually the big issue IMO. wow is the only mmo out there with addon support and that lends itself to flags rsp, prat and WIM. All things that make casual encounter rp possible. In guild wars and swtor I'm locked to one partner at a time, manually found over darknest and often annoying as a lack of UI customizeation means I'm constantly loosing posts due to how the char box works, or looking for where one post ends and the next begins because everything's the same color.
So in closing: wow is there, its easy to find. Others are harder and much, much slower
No.40392
>>40378
Rift has addon support(It's not that bad, really), wardrobe to change your appearance, player housing that is very expansive(and expensive) and supposedly had a pretty good ERP scene for a while, but it's hard to get into.
RP is easy to find, but I think people are too skittish for ERP.
No.40429
>>40366
>have mmos just become to gamified?
I don't think that'll ever be something to happen to an MMO, they rely on completely different appeals than video games do
No.40431
I wonder about in-game hotspots, not for public ERP or anything, just a place people are likely to find each other, as opposed to having to network through Darknest.
Basically, I wonder what the Goldshire equivalents in other games are.
STO used to have Drozana, for example, but it seems like it's been killed by both Goons and the redesign.
No.40433
>>40431
STO had Drozana, yeah.
Champions Online has Club Caprice, but you have both Goons and miscellaneous drama starters.
Neverwinter, I'm not sure.
RIFT has Silverwood's Argent Glade for the Guardians, I don't think there is a similar area for the Defiants.
Don't know about TERA or GW2.
No.40437
I used to erp quite a lot on TERA, but it feels like the majority that still do it, have become pretty exclusive to certain partners, and just flat out ignore everyone else in general, leaving any newcomers completely out of the loop.
No.40441
>>40433
For Neverwinter it's the Moonstone Mask.
No.40449
Neverwinter is legitimate cancer though, while it's OK and inventive mechanically it uh …
Suffers brutally from being a Cryptic MMO.
No.40472
>>40392
I've heard things along the line that final weebo online did some major damage to rift. No idea how true that is but you're certainly correct about skittishness. Nobody wants to risk it with a stranger. Also I've been spoilt by wow. If I can't have a description tab, separate windows per whisper or, at the very least the power to give each partner their own separate chat tab then it's kinda lost me
>>40431
From what I've gathered there are none. Today's mmo fucks are all familiar with what tourists and trolls have turned moonguard into and so any congregation of rp'ers in an even remotely obscure/hidden place gets called out for heavy trolling
>>40433
I may stand corrected
>>40449
Sweet jesus this. I was shocked by just how bad it could be. Whats worse though is seeing that it predicted the follower system wod has a good few years in advance
No.40475
>>40472
>Also I've been spoilt by wow. If I can't have a description tab, separate windows per whisper or, at the very least the power to give each partner their own separate chat tab then it's kinda lost me
Rift has quite a few addons, even a dedicated one for Roleplaying that includes a profile. You can also make extra tabs for the chat dedicated to whispers and such - not sure about for certain players, though.
>Final Weeaboo Online
Yeah, apparently it did take quite a few people. But that's true for every MMO.
No.41544
Give Wildstar a try when it goes free-to-play, the housing should provide some nice privacy and the characters are diverse and unique. I love being a female draken, they're like semi-feral lust demons in the sack.
No.41559
>>40437
I can confirm that there's still ERP on Tera but *interesting* characters have pretty much been replaced with "oooh I'm a succubus teehee" female castanics, elin lolis and domme female high elves. Also all the female humans are futas if not the other tree.
No.41690
>my only experience ERPing in vidya is through MUDs and SS13
I'm not sure how to feel about this.
No.41702
>>41690
ERPing is fun in ss13, sadly there's no server left where I can get away with it.
No.41781
>>41559
Just the other day I experienced a threesome with two shemale Aman spitroasting my male elin.
No.44411
If anyone is still playing RIFT, I'd be down for some contacts. And by which I mean sloppy, rough, degrading fuck-making
Kallessra@Faeblight
Or am I just a pleb for enjoying this game?
No.44549
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>>44411
Wow someone plays RIFT still?
I fucking love RIFT, hell I loved it so much that I got my character drawn up.
No.44996
>>41702
I'd never even heard of ss13 before.
I used to run neverwinter nights erp modules and I'm a devop by trade. I'll see if I can set up a server for ss13 if there's any point to it.
No.45009
>>44996
>>41702
There's a Vore erp server from Ekas Portal which is pretty good if you're into that sort of thing, it also has support for macro/micro kinks too and gets updated pretty frequently.
Non Vore erp happens there too but it's a little bit more difficult to find a partner for, but other than that, and a few snowflakes in the community it's a pretty good place.
No.45016
>>41690
>MUDs
There's a few MUSHes out there specifically for ERPing stuff. Basically F-List style but with some basic setting themes and stuff.
mfw I wish I could find a good superhero or scifi or whatever non-fantasy MUSH for both normal RP and lewd things
No.45020
Second Life, man. It's like the devs made it with porn in mind
> make anything you want
> make any animations/ poses you like
> be anyone you want
> do anything you want
Furries are pretty big in there but there's also a ton of groups for different interests.
Pic related, my main girl.
No.45025
No.45026
>>45020
I know that shark tits
No.45051
>>45025
All I have on my phone of her, but have a project pic.
>>45026
I'm not surprised, I used to strip for Lindens to afford mods and shit. Do you frequent clubs?
No.45053
>>45051
Is this a boy? Please let it be a boy.
No.45058
>>45051
I notice her from f-list
>>45053
>boob curves
sorry anon
No.45064
>>45058
>boob curves
Oh shit I can see it now
No.45065
>>45053
Sigrid Arljan?
>>45058
Fraid not, but the Kemono body is so flat that there's almost no way to tell. Plus, they make boy bits for them too.
No.45066
>>45065
You mixed the replies up
yes
No.45067
>>45066
Oh well, the price I pay for using mobile. Do you use SL at all?
No.45069
No.45134
>been looking forward to tree of saviour
>hadn't been able to decide which class to play
>discovers /erp/
>hangs out in here
>are now seriously considering making a crafting class who'll be in character as much as possible and part of the character is either providing sexual favor for selected trusted costumer as extra service when they buy something, or accept sexual favor in exchange for discount.
dammit /erp/, what have you done to me?
No.45135
>>45051
Any nudes of her? She's adorable
No.45139
>>45135
I… don't know if I've ever taken nudes of her. I took screens of her in a one-piece swimsuit but those are on my PC. I'm not at home atm.
No.45141
I've been wondering, since /erp/ is a sizeable community, why don't we all pick a new and upcoming MMO and create a guild in it?
No.45143
>>45141
mitebcool.
Would be nice to see a guild name that /erp/ can use in other MMOs as well.
No.45144
>>45141
I've actually considered doing that for Tree of Saviour, which is the only upcomming mmo that I've really looked forward to.
Got some experience from running a guild in Ragnarok Online too.
No.45146
>>45144
>Tree of Saviour
I'm fully on board with that.
No.45189
>>45167
Shall I post some random sexy pics from my SL screenshots folder?
No.45300
Fuck now you all got me interested in rift RP again. Anyone on interested?
No.45319
>>45189
Oh lord, I found an… experiment I did. Fiddled around with some bits I had, then accidentally a four-tittied shark shemale with a dog dick.
No.46204
>>45020
>That feel when want to get back into SL again, but have never been remotely competent at making attractive characters.
>Couldn't find someone for the life of me who I could commission to make an appealing character for me and show me how to update/maintain/edit it as needed.
Life is suffering.
No.46238
>>46204
I'm the one you replied too, check the email field for my skype. Let's get you into something sexy, alright?
No.46243
>>40367
Who do I ask to join the Darknest channel?
No.46244
>>46243
You should be able to join it without an invite, at least I didn't have to.
No.46342
Not quite an MMO, but has anybody considered starbound?
seems like it'd lend itself well to a quiet server for /erp/..
No.46344
>>46342
The chat system isn't very well suited for ERP, what with the character limits and how the messages only stay behind for a very limited time.
The universe is pretty appealing though, and the ERP was one of the few reasons I played Starbound for as long as I did. I wouldn't want anyone to buy the game though, the devs are total cunts and it's really shit. The ERP was good though. Nothing like conquering a bunch of savage plantes with my dick for the glory of Big Ape.
No.46407
>>46344
Yeah, but being imprisoned in someone's ship? Fucking moan.
No.46435
>>46407
But you can always teleport out of someone's ship.
No.46456
>>46435
…What if it was your ship, through some adminfuckery disowned from you or whatever and made the evilmasterwhatever's?
No.46466
>>46456
In that situation you could be trapped, yes, but it's not possible to do that now without extensively modding the game as far as I know.
No.46484
>>46466
Extensive modification to be someone's slut is a worthy proposition.
No.51085
Anyone looking forward to Blade & Soul for ERP? With HTK's art style that sexualizes every race equally, I can see it gaining a pretty active community like TERA's.
No.51104
>>51085
I am. I won't be buying any of their founder's packs after getting burned by an Archeage Founders pack but I'll definitely be playing it when it comes out.
No.51113
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>>51085
My partner wants to play it, so I'll probably give it a go. It looks like it could be fun, I'm just a bit unsure about putting any money down on a new mmo after getting stung so badly over the last few years.
>>51104
That game hurt me bad…it had so much I was looking for in an mmo too! Sailing, houses, farms with animals…it just had to go and shit the bed with that terrible payment model. At least I have some fun memories being a front line healslut and holding the line!
No.51238
Sigrogana Legends 2 is a surprisingly easy BYOND game to find ERP in if you know where and how to look.
some assembly required
No.51245
>>51113
Ya. They just removed any form of gold sink and made it cash shop instead. Prices would literally double every week and it was awful.
No.51272
Have you guys heard about Venus Rising?
It seems to be an MMORPG with actual lewd content, but honestly the game itself looks like shit made 10 years ago judging by videos ans screenshots.
Do you think it has any potential?
No.51275
>>51272
I've signed up to take a peek at it. I've read through some of the posts, and there's a fair few claims that it hasn't changed much for a few years, but who knows.
No.51445
No.51541
>>51272
>>51275
I gave it a go! Sadly, I wouldn’t recommend it yet to anyone that just wants to hop in and play naughty. It feels very early on in development.
No.51548
Getting into Balmung on FFXIV so hard, always full. ;w; FeelsBadMan
No.51561
>>51548
I got into balmung around 3am est on a friday night/saturday morning like 2 weeks ago, and that was like 4 hours after deciding i wanted to transfer.
No.51562
>>51561
I never thought about transferring before now…And apparently that works compared to making a new character…Welp.
No.51571
>>51562
You just gotta time it right. Its all about when the server is most inactive. The reason i didnt xfer before 3am, was because it was closed. I just periodically refreshed the page that had the server list on it in the world transfer page, until i saw bahamut available. And had my character prepped to go. And just watched some streams till that one refresh that showed it open.
No.51574
>>51571
I transferred around 21:00 Central European Time (so 3 hours ago), so that's basically primetime on a Saturday isn't it? Seems I got lucky.
No.51588
>>51582
There's a /vg/ group for it, I think.
Not sure if they're still going.
No.51631
Copy paste from my post: >>51629
Not very related but Im downloading NWN1 with all expansions, is there anyone still playing online? If there is still some people around, how is the ERP in the game? Is there like a group of people that is into it?
I havent played the game yet but I read a review of guy that never played the main story and spent hundreds of hours on online modules. He even called the game a "4-players MMO" or something like. And with "MMO" in mind I want to believe there is room for ERP
No.51632
>>51631
Neverwinter Nights… man that game was quite a journey.
I do believe it still has servers that are still alive and have been alive for over a decade now. However, because Gamespy is dead and gone, the master server that it tries to contact no longer exists, so you'll need to direct connect to a server that you want to join.
There is a third-party website that hosts a server browser with IP addresses for you to manually connect to, but a lot of the big servers have custom content in the form of .hak files that you'll need to download. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I know that there's one server with well over a hundred or so people and it's practically built for adult and ERP stuff.
>>51582
I suppose someone can make one. I guess I can if the /vg/ one is dead.
No.51633
>>51632
>I can't remember off the top of my head, but I know that there's one server with well over a hundred or so people and it's practically built for adult and ERP stuff.
If anyone has any info about this it would be much appreciated (plus you would be my hero).
No.51635
>>51633
Fret not. I've been digging through the depths of my hard drive.
Sinfar was the name of the server. Try to search for "Sinfar Neverwinter Nights" on a search engine. I don't know how it is nowadays, but at the moment it's got 135 players online at the moment. It's basically a giant as fuck server with custom-built areas and maps that pretty much make it into an MMO.
The best part? The toolset used to make content allows for near total freedom when it comes to how you build your world that's hosted on your server. Scripts, buildings, NPCs, everything.
No.51640
>>51635
>I have to download 2gb of extra content in order to join the server
Heck, well I will download it in the morning once the game is downloaded, thanks a lot! I didnt have much hope for a 10-years old game but Im surprised that there is a lot of people playing it online (I found plenty of servers lists and almost all of them had 1 or 2 servers with around 30 people in it).
If the character creation is as good as Icewind Dale 2's then I see potential for some ERP
No.51641
>>51640
>2gb
Oh shit, I forgot how much content it had. Yeah, it's kinda big but at least it's all in one file.
The character creation is pretty similiar. Can choose your own voiceset, portrait, class, name, etc.
You can even take the time to write a giant description in a box before you finalize it.
No.51643
>>51635
I had good experiences on Sinfar. People are really chill there and the older dnd centered playerbase + grabbag setting makes for really engaging fun RP
sure it has the usual hordes of generic futa succubi but there's some of the most unique character concepts for "mmo" (sinfar and persistent world nwn servers are mini mmos in of themselves) rp i've seen
No.51644
>>51641
when you get into the server the extent to which you can edit your character is like a weird polygon-hell secondlife level of freedom. you can change your footstep sound too
No.51645
>>51644
I remember when some people would choose that godawful stomping sound as if you weigh fifteen tons or something.
No.51647
>>51632
Any idea if you can use pirated copies, now that it's direct connection? I'm like, 84% sure I owned the base game once. I think someone borrowed it and I forgot all about it. Probably the same guy whose copies of Oblivion and Civ IV I have.
No.51648
>>51647
I got the copy on GOG and thus a key for multiplayer. Im not sure if you can crack the game so you dont need a key.
I know there are some modules and servers that need all the expansions and not only the base game
No.51651
>>51647
With the master server gone, the game itself has no way to authenticate your CD key. However, a lot of servers have their own scripts to try to preserve CD keys in their own way to prevent identical keys to be associated with multiple players.
>>51588
I can't find that one anymore. I'm down to start an LS for it. However, I'm in Balmung.
No.51664
>>51651
Is that halfchan /vg/? I've, um… After Tera, I don't think I want to associate with that particular pool of people.
I'm on Balmung, too! It seems that there are a few people on here. It might be fun to get a bit of a group going, don't you think?
No.51669
I've got a character on ffxiv's balmung server, is the erp there very active or even existent at all? I've been wondering for the last couple months since I made my character…
plus I'm too shy and scared to actually do stuff
No.51671
No.51673
>>51669
You can put that you ERP in your search info, add to it that you want people to /tell you and stand around in the Quicksand. On a good night, it'll take 5-10 minutes for someone to bite.
No.51681
>>51582
There's a Darknest one that's honestly all right.
http://forums.darknestfantasyerotica.com/showthread.php?20190-Balmung-Darknest-Linkshell-Another-Take
There is or was an /erp/ one, but I never managed to catch the person who made it online.
No.51701
>>51664
>Is that halfchan /vg/?
Probably. I've never bothered to really associate with that general at all.
I'll just get one LS for /erp/ started up. With the increasing amount of people from Balmung on this board it won't hurt to try, I guess.
No.51712
>>51701
Feel free to add me if you are making an LS.
Minorin Nakashima - I am on Balmung
No.51717
>>51712
Added. I'll try to maintain it for those in Balmung.
No.51719
>>51681
That was me, and I didn't have the money to keep my sub up this month. If you guys wanna make one, go ahead. I didn't add anyone anyway.
No.51725
Hey everyone, I come to you with joyous news! Guild Wars 2 is now free to own and free to play! That's right, completely free!
Do you want to be a human, forging your way in this world of wonders? Asura, diminutive denizens of the planet? Sylvari, born of the tree and more elf than an elf? Norn, massive defenders of the ancient Spirits? Charr, born of dragon and feline with engineering skills few can match?
Gameplay-wise this thing is solid. Your weapon choice determines your attack skills, while your utility skills can be swapped at any time. Eight total classes allow you to be whatever role you prefer. Crafting is robust and quite extensive, but it can be ignored if you're not into that.
Now, for the best part. Forming a party can be done even if you're on different servers, as long as you're within a server region (EU can't connect to NA, far as I know). Having said that, there are a few of us on Dragonsbreath having fun with this strange world and would love to see you there!
No.51730
No.51731
>>51635
Neverwinter needs its own thread. There are several servers exclusively +18
I remember that like 7 or 8 years ago I used to play on a server that had a good whore house with good ERPers and it wasnt very expensive.
It would be cool if /erp/ had a NWN server with a proper whore house
No.51762
>>51681
I, uh… I was in that LS for a while and I couldn't handle some of the personalities, so I ended up not rejoining. Maybe it's a bit better now and I should give it another chance.
>>51717
May I ask for a name? I have classes all day today, but I'll try and find you tonight.
No.51763
>>51647
Sinfar at least two people can't be on it with the same multiplayer CD key - GoG emails out new multiplayer keys with barely any verification - I have 2 because one day I idly sent them a question about how they get them and they answered "from the manufacturer" with an attached extra multiplayer CD key
if you need one I can give you one of mine
No.51782
>>51762
Add or contact Crestfallen Knight and I'll try to add to the LS.
No.51787
>>51763
Thanks, but nah. Didn't realize it was on GOG. Think I'll pick it up. I don't mind throwing money at them or Bioware.
No.51803
>>51731
>>51763
>>51787
Sinfar looks really active and promising, so I'm going to pick it up, too. I'm a little iffy about the reference pictures a lot of people use in their descriptions on Sinfar (ie: photos or western art; I am a filthy weeb whore), but I'm hoping it'll be fun regardless.
No.51813
>>51803
there's plenty of anime people there, like a decent amount
I assume you've seen this
http://nwn.sinfar.net/portraits_gallery.php?page=2
the demographic is very centered in that corny western fantasy art though that's just the people who still play nwn
No.51818
>>51803
People used anime for their portraits before.
No.51848
>>51813
The number of hentai portraits and most importantly, kinky portraits just gives me more reasons to download this game. I hope it goes on sale soon, this makes me want to play it so badly
Pic is a portrait btw
No.52077
>>51104
>>51113
Yeah, I know what you mean. I've played the Chinese, Taiwan and Russian private server a bit and I know I'm going to enjoy the game, but those founder's pack prices are ridiculous. 1st tier package has no value, 2nd tier package is overpriced and the 3rd tier package is expensive as fuck but is the only one that has any real value in it due to all the NCoin, premium points and 90-day sub. I might cave and get the 3rd tier package at the last minute, but until then I hope to fuck I can get some hookups into the CBT.
Other than that, I need some thick ass Gon or Jin lady to play switch to my spunky teenage male Lyn as we beat the shit out of everyone.
No.52191
>>52077
I was being shown a dress the other day that I think was tied to one of the packages. It was a very cosy looking dress. I'll give it a go for sure ~ I do like the idea of playing a game with options for more shapely characters!
I love XIV, but please yoshi, give me the butts.
No.52205
>>52191
Indeed on the shapely characters. I wish more games had character creation tools as good as B&S. Although I do wish that maximum chest size values were a lot bigger since I like unrealistically large boobs to match how big asses can get, but that's just me. Hopefully someone will be able to use Cheat Engine to enhance slider values like in this .gif and create an .exe for it. There is a small guide on GVZ about it but it's all so confusing as fuck.
Also for anyone that's looking to try the game out now, playing on the Russian private server isn't such a bad idea. Even though it's running on an outdated chinese client, the whole thing is in English and the ping is low so you can at least get a good feel for the combat. Even more so, it's just worth the download just to screw around with the character creator because you can actually save your character sliders into neat little jpgs and use them in any version of the game, including the upcoming NA/EU version, so when the game comes out you won't have to spend hours making your perfect waifu or husbando.
No.52634
>>40364
>>40433
Gonna install Champions Online now, gonna see how popular
Club Caprice is as of recently.
No.52759
>>51717
Feel free to PM Crestfallen Knight, Minorin Nakashima or Jihl Wilzuun for an invite to this LS if you're interested and on the Balmung server!
No.52765
>>52634
Decent population, low quality. As always
No.52769
>>52205
>match how big asses can get
How big can they get?
Also, I'm looking about and I'm seeing conflicting info about how to get B&S
No.52772
Anyone manage to get into Balmung on FFXIV recently
No.52789
>>52205
>There is a small guide on GVZ about it but it's all so confusing as fuck.
Link? I'm going to try to get it working.
No.52797
>>551725
Hello, who do I contact on the Dragonsbreath server to join your group?
No.52799
>>51725
>>52797
Was trying to post with my phone. Wanted to ask you about who to contact on your server for the group? Thanks!
No.52819
>>52769
Pretty big, especially when you min/max out the waist, pelvis and thigh sliders, respectively.
>>52789
Here you go. Good luck to you.
http://www.gamevixenzone.net/hot-stuff-21/blade-soul-cheat-engine-mods-2194/
No.52876
>>52819
Alright, I got it working, but it only works in character creation as far as I can tell from that thread and others.
No.52956
>>52876
Well I definitely know there's a way to make it work in-game since i have laid eyes on characters with edited body sizes from the /bnsg/ threads on /vg/, but yeah, no guide to make it happy yet.
No.53092
I've seen a GW2 thread on half-chan /d/ so I wonder, do many of you guys play it?
No.53104
>>53092
Dunno how many other people do, but I do.
No.53155
>>41690
honk honk, whispered the clown.
No.53542
A rare lurker posting here. I've gone and explored over a longer period of time several MMORPGS. I can confirm which are dead and which aren't as I regularly check back.
Pardon the typos in advance, but I've not had sleep in twenty-four hours.
1. World of Warcraft
You'll find tonnes of ERP here. Quality is much better on Argent Dawn EU than the NA counterpart. Goldshire is the hotspot. Be careful, however, as its popularity attracts a lot more poor roleplayers than other games.
2. Champions Online.
Alive and active. There are surprisingly many erotic roleplayers in this game, and they all gather at Club Caprice. I've yet to stumble upon a single erotic roleplayer thatn I can classify as bad, while I've met many decent, good and great.
3. Star Trek Online.
Dead, at the bottom of the sea. Don't even bother installing this game if you're looking for ERP. It doesn't even have an RP scene anymore, and those that remain are just too stubborn to realize it's gone.
4. Rift
I've logged on every noon and midnight to see if there's any roleplayers around the Argent Glade. As it was once known as the hotspot for ERP. I've yet to see -any- roleplayers. Classified; DEAD
5. Guild Wars 2
It has a declining RP scene, but no ERP due to a lack of available hotspots and the account tag. Most players shy away from adult themed RP since there's a singular ID that binds your online persona to the game, and nobody wants to end up in a shitty situation. Suggestion: Don't bother with it, at all. You'll spend hours upon hours wading through some of the worst roleplayers you've stumbled across anywhere, and the few good ones you'll come across are more than likely not into ERP or are too afraid to. On a different note: The HoT expansion will not save the game.
6. Archage Online
It's truly a shame I have to classify this one as: DEAD! While the game features a vast open world, races and everything a good RP scene requires, the developers gave no thought to the scene and hasn't even included an /emote channel.
7. EVE Online.
Do not bother. While roleplay is wide-spread, and pretty much required to play the game, you won't find anything that sates your RP urges. I hesitate to call it ERP, as it's pretty much just cybering in this game.
8. Wildstar
It is rich with both ERP and RP, but the barrier of entry is difficult. You'll need to invest yourself in the community, before you're even able to RP. In all other MMOs it's the opposite. But if you manage to get over the threshold, it's smooth sailing. Let's just hope you don't hate Aurin, if you're playing Exile, most players picked that race. And a portion of the community has the weeaboo streak, so tread carefully. It's -mandatory- to join the LFRP channel, but due to its necessity, it's also not a popularity contest like it tends to be in MMOs.
9. SWTOR
It has a decent sized RP community, but since the introduction of housing it's become increasingly difficult to find any roleplayers. I suggest you leave it well alone.
10. Final Fantasy XIV
It has an active community of roleplayers and erotic roleplayers alike. A fair share are suffering from the weeaboo streak. Give it a shot if you're interested. But I know of no ERP hotspots for it.
No.53543
>>53542
But the GW2 thread on halfchan /d/ seems to be thriving though, I'm even thinking on giving it a chance myself. The F2P seemed to add some fresh blood to it.
No.53555
>>53543
Don't they all play Charrs and Asuras despite disallowing furries?
And besides, it's a halfchan guild, they fall into the "wading through some of the worst roleplayers you've stumbled across anywhere" group.
No.53560
>>53555
>le halfchan is such shit :DD
Despite you acting like an elitist teenager who thinks he is in some place for the chosen ones now, I may inform you that people here and there are not that different, especially on porn and video games kind of stuff, you would know if you spent more time of both of these sites.
It's quite nice for an RP guild from what I've seen and as I know there are not that many people playing charrs, and asuras look more like some alien goblins than furries anyway.
No.53565
>>53560
>>53560
The halfchan guild is shit. I'm in it.
It's a constant kawaii desu circlejerk and nothing but *I lick your fur* emotes.
No.53567
>>53565
Well, maybe you've just seen the bad side of it, I haven't seen many furries there at all and the captions that got posted in the thread looked pretty ok, not worse or kawaii-desu-ish than the shit people post here in erp threads.
At the moment that thread seems to be dead anyway.
No.53569
>>53542
>Guild Wars 2
>Archeage
Both of these games had so much potential. So much wasted potential.
Also, promoting the /erp/ linkshell for Final Fantasy XIV again since I've gotten a few whispers. If you're on Balmung, you can whisper Crestfallen Knight.
No.53575
>>53569
There's a growing population on the Behemoth server as well. They're mostly talking on /d/, and oddly enough it's not so bad.
http://boards.4chan.org/d/thread/6446816/ffxiv-deviants-free-company#p6446902
No.53722
>>53542
>7. EVE Online.
>
>Do not bother. While roleplay is wide-spread, and pretty much required to play the game, you won't find anything that sates your RP urges. I hesitate to call it ERP, as it's pretty much just cybering in this game.
>
That is interesting. I've played EVE Online for years and while I was vaguely aware there was roleplaying going on, I never actually got involved. And I don't think it particularly hindered me that I could tell.
No.53847
>>53722
All I can imagine in EVE is erping sucking a dick of a space truck driver for money.
No.53887
No.53903
>>53542
I play Dominion, so I can't speak for Exile-side, but I had a very welcoming experience. A lot of the RP is in the private/semi-public housing, so you will need to do some (light) leveling to break into it, but once you know whose plots are open for the night, they'll welcome you with open arms as long as you're not a total twat.
I came back almost a year after I left, found some bar rp through the Dommie WSRP-channel, and just pretty much did some people-watching and light conversation. By the second night, I had two pretty consistent partners for all kinds of play.
It's going F2P on the 29th, so you might wait a week for that. It'll be a clusterfuck once it opens, but it'll probably smooth over after a bit.
No.53919
>>53903
Unfortunately, the Exile RP channels is home to mostly tumblrettes.
You'll find them shaming cishet men, big busted women and on a regular basis "discuss" whether or not any of the main characters in Wildstar is a transexual or transgender. There have even been talks of a MtF Matria in RP.
I avoid engaging in dialogues unless it's strictly for the purpose of finding any active plots, and sometimes have to leave the channels in order to hide the zealous preaching. I've had no ERP encounters yet, myself, but I know a few that has. I wish there was a clear cut way to tell those willing to ERP from those that aren't.
I may end up rolling a dommie instead.
No.54057
Is Second Life any good? I'm looking for a free MMO since I really can't afford any subscriptions and it seems like that's the only decent one.
I just wanna be a cute slut and get railed by strong men. ;-;
No.54059
>>54057
It generally isn't.
Paying is the only way to make a good, unique avatar and there's a very awkward and uncomfortable atmosphere at all times in all locations.
Microphones and the ability to hear them are also enabled by default.
No.54060
>>54057
If you're looking for free, SecondLife isn't what you want, likely. You need a little bit of money to get a good looking avatar and without a good looking avatar, you're gonna get ignored by all but the most desperate.
No.54069
>>54059
>>54060
Thanks for the reply!
I see. What are my other options in that case?
No.54135
>>54069
If you're looking for free MMOs then you've got the pick of the litter. Most MMOs are free to play such as Tera, Archeage, Guild Wars 2, and Wildstar is going F2P pretty soon too. Those were just four off the top of my head, and I'm sure others will chip in with more.
As for the RP scenes in said games? Your mileage may vary, but there are a few posts in the thread that will give you a rundown on the state of most games.
No.54401
Anyone playing TERA right now that's into male Amani or Popori? Sure would love an elin, high elf or human female to stuff.
No.54410
I'm playing Tera, myself, playing as a futa Amani. After making the character I heard Femani were kinda rare and sought after, yet I've hardly found any fun on the RP server.
No.54439
I've been playing Blade and Soul recently, and it's so pretty. Just missing the ERP. Kinda wonder if there are people on there at all or if I have to get on another MMO for the fun.
No.54444
>>54439
There probably won't be any ERP for B&S until the official English server gets here. Until then, Which version are you playing? Korea, China, Japanese, Taiwan or Russian Private Server?
No.54445
>>54444
The russian server one with translated text.
No.54449
>>54401
The RP server on TERA is full of cliques and elitist snotty people not wanting to talk with others.
No.54453
>>54445
Yeah, that's the server I'm on, too. I haven't gotten very far into it since the official server is just around the corner, but some casual erp to pass the time would be nice
>>54449
Yeah, this is fairly true. Pretty much have to join a guild if you want any action. Although I do occasionally find stragglers in the darknest chatroom "/chat darknest 1234" from time to time.
No.54457
>>54439
Me and a few erp partners are planning on playing it when it comes out in the west. Only problem is there's a big push to all play on US servers, and I'm wondering if our dirty red coat pings are going to cope with it.
No.54459
>>54453
Been trying to get a stalker outfit before a screenshot, but oh well.
>>54457
Should I just go back to other mmo instead then? FFXIV currently has nothing atm and a fresh char might seem a bit dull.
No.54469
So what is the veridict? What is the most popular MMO to ERP on? I want to sell my body for gold.
No.54473
>>54469
World of Warcraft.
But then you're playing World of Warcraft.
No.54485
>>54473
>World of Warcraft.
Sorry, I should've clarified: free MMO.
Although, fucking to pay my wow subscription does sound kind of enticing.
No.54486
>>54485
You can play for free up to 20, and there are tokens that give you a month of subscription time.
So, if you're really good at whoring, you can have people pay for your subscription for you.
No.54487
>>54486
Would that be feasible though? If I recal correctly the subscription generally fluctuates around 40K/month. Is it feasible to make that kind of money sucking cock?
Any experiences with this?
No.54495
>>54487
>Is it feasible to make that kind of money sucking cock?
Well, let's consider: You have to have a pool of customers, and on smaller/non-RP servers, that base of customers is likely smaller. Furthermore, locating the individuals that will pay you for the sex (as well as how good you are) can also affect how easily you can access your consumer-base. Being able to build up a large userbase is useful as well, as being the go-to whore will likely increase your income.
A few things to consider might be an hourly rate vs a per-session fee. If it's 40k per month, you'd have to average about 1.3k per diem. That's hardly a huge sum, even if you play normally. If your ERP skills are strong, you could be a pricey little whore.
It's at this moment I'm pondering the economics of sucking virtual dick. What even is my life?
No.54497
>>54495
Addendum: You'd also have to target your audience to be at such a level and with such wealth to participate in paid ERP. Granted, you might be able to work this angle in-character as being a high-class whore. You'd also need to ingratiate yourself with the community, which might take some work.
There's also the Auction House function, which, if you've got some extra cash lying around, can make you a fair sum if you're pretty decent with market manipulation and have a good understanding of your server's economy.
On the whole, it's certainly -possible- though how easy that might be is up for debate.
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>>54495
Even hearing you talk about it as a business makes me so horny.
I just want to go down the auction house after a month of hard work, with a belly full of desperate nerd cum and a few stains on my hair. I'd drop the gold with a smile as the auctioneer sold me the priviledge of being fucked and used for another whole month.
I'm glad to hear it seems possible.
No.54499
>>54497
Also, for me, figuring those things out and "moving up in the world" is a big part of it. Theres just something about gathering clients/followers who will want to fuck me weekly for some gold. I want to be their only one too. Their goto bitch.
And if I could sustain myself completely on cock that would be amazing as well. I guess it works as a motivation to get better too, because if I don't I'll have to pay, so I have to work for it.
There's just so much that goes into this for me, I had never realized.
No.54777
I've seen World of Warcraft being brought up as a paid MMORPG. And it is, sure, but there are ways to play it for free. In fact, I've been not given Blizzard a single cent for almost a year soon and I'm still an avid ERPer in it. There's quite a few into financial domination hanging around Goldshire, and if not in Goldshire one of the many ERP guilds. You can ERP your way to hold a subscription, either through prostitution or domming someone so hard they'll pay your sub.
You can also buy tokens, they're not that expensive and hard to get. But you need a professions at max and a decent farm route to get it. But once you've got one established, it's easy to keep up. At this rate, I'm earning 40k~ gold every week, just by logging into WoW once every day.
That said, if you just want to ERP, without gaining access to the ERP communities, a trial account is fine. Just get MRP and state in your information that you're on a trial account and hang around Goldshire. It's packed with people almost 24/7, with a few lulls.
No.54818
>>54499
Are you NA or EU? On the NA side, Moon Guard has a heavily established ERP commodity market. Lots of saturation
Wyrmrest Accord has a low amount of people that explicitly ERP for gold because they're more purist and up their own ass - the only ERP most of them like is after five hours of romance or talking about their feelings. Your issue on Wyrmrest Accord is making yourself up to their standards - either way it's the dead end of an xpac and everyone is fucking heinously rich. It's just on WRA I'd say rates are lower because it isn't as established
No.55558
So… are there any of these games where you can play as/that don't ban loli?
No.55564
>>55558
TERA and soon Blade & Soul
No.56274
>>55564
Is there actually decent ERP to be found in TERA?
No.56306
>>56274
Only if you join those obvious ERP guilds
Finding pick up erp is nearly impossible
No.56761
>>54818
I've noticed people tend to look down at me when I ask for some money after they tell me they want to fuck me. It gets a bit annoying sometimes because I don't even ask for much, and they are always the ones who approach me. As soon as I mention a little pay, they tend to say they have no money and just stop talking (we're talking level 100s here too.), even when they clearly just want a "one night stand" and not any kind of long term thing.
That kind of sucks, and I can't go to the american servers because blizzard are jews.
No.56763
I'm curious about second life. Is anyone even playing that anymore? Is it still worth trying? Can you actually do anything if you don't have money, or is it pointless? What about ERP and RP in general, is it a thing? How big of a thing, if yes?
No.56770
>>56763
>Is anyone even playing that anymore?
Always. Not me, though, the regret usually settles in after account creation.
>Is it still worth trying?
If you can easily immerse yourself.
>Can you actually do anything if you don't have money, or is it pointless?
It's difficult to have a good and unique look if you don't put money into it.
It's not pointless since people will understand that you won't have a gorgeous appearance when you're completely new, but expect to run into people who have spent more than anyone would normally be proud of saying otherwise.
>What about ERP and RP in general
>is it a thing?
Yes, it is. While most of it is done through discrete private messaging or public text, some insist on using janky animations and, rarely, voice chat.
>How big of a thing, if yes?
It is a massive online community that has been around for years. Finding roleplay that works for you will take a bit of searching.
No.56773
>>56763
I used to play a lot of it and joined in a lot of fun RP groups and even ran events. Sadly I've not found much of anything over the last few years that's kept me playing more than an evening every now and then.
I still tear up knowing that some of the old comfy places I loved to hang out are no longer around.
No.56842
Anyone here screwing around in Wildstar?
Just a male looking for females to have fun with but it seems like everyone's a god damn futa. Also no girl chua.
No.56851
No.57063
We doing anything fun in the Blade & Soul alpha for those of us who got it?
No.57072
>>57063
If I ever get finished playing around in character creator I was planning on making a stable of sluts that my partner will pimp out for the equivalent of pennies. Assuming we get into cbt. Same plan holds true for release though.
No.57269
There’s Tree of Savoir beta coming up too. Pretty sure the sign ups closed the other day, but I’ll be taking a peek at it.
>>57063
I’ve had two partners pick up the £95 package…so I guess I’m playing it too. No idea what I want to do, and I sadly get the feeling it won’t be able to play much on US servers when the game comes out with britbong ping.
>>56851
Oh, are you the one from the other thread? I only play on EU and almost exclusively seasonal, but I’m sure I could post some contact details if that lines up ~
No.57303
>>57269
As a fellow Euro-player, the ping on NA wasn't so bad during the alpha.
No.57311
I can't wait for Blade & Soul to come out. I'm not going to waste any time looking for a big ass, big titty Gon goddess to play with.
No.57439
>>57311
I'm gonna make a milfy char and a femboy char just to have all the possible lewd I want.
No.57480
>>57311
The moment I read you could pick people up with destroyer I decided it was going to be Gon milf for me.
No.57493
>>57269
>Oh, are you the one from the other thread?
yeah but I play on US server cause all my friends are American.
No.57496
>>56851
>>57493
if anyone plays diablo on US servers let me know
No.57505
>>57311
Gonna make a lyn male and find a gon lady to never let go of.
Size difference /ss/ all day erryday
No.58814
So, after months of drifting, I'm left with one question: Does there exist an MMO where the ERP community isn't mostly futa?
I don't know exactly what I expected, but I know it wasn't for the only dicks to be attached to other ladies.
No.58816
>>58814
I don't know if a prominent non-Futa ERP community exists, but if you manage to find one, please let me know because I'd like to be a part of it. Nothing against chicks with dicks, but damn there's so many of them.
No.58832
>>58816
I'd like to find a ERP community that isn't primarily furry while we're on the subject. Both are too common to be very interesting tbh
No.58833
>>58814
Honestly, I don't think that's gonna happen. Maybe in the early years but yeah- these days its all purple, all the time
>>58816
I thought GW2 had it for a while, my last experience with it was.. poor to say the least, between DN being full of non-events and male char the rest was more or less exclusively shemale norn (not a bad thing for me, but yeah it can get old in a hurry)
Honestly these days I just say stick to f-list and its bullshit you'll have better luck then trying to find diversity in an mmo
No.58837
>>58814
I haven't encountered a single Futa character in the Star Wars mmo, but the ERP community there is really small compared to other games.
No.58838
>>58837
The EA one? I presume the community period would be really small there considering how hard it tanked.
No.58863
>>58837
It's also not helped by the same garbage UI problems that plague every mmo that's not wow.. Seriously. How are add-ons or chat tab customisation hard? I want WIM windows- or at least the power to drag one person's lewd whispers into their own tab
No.58987
>>58863
Yeah it's not the greatest MMO out there, but recently I've had a good bit of success with ERP, mostly with dark side characters. It's one of only two MMO's I've ever played that have had an ERP community which is why I brought it up.
No.59529
Which WoW realm is the best for somewhat classy ERPs?
No.59634
>>53575
Any update on if that /d/ guild is still alive on Behemoth?
Haven't been able to find the thread or anyone related to it.
No.59662
>>59529
>Classy
>ERP
Moonguard's there it's at. You might find scattered and infrequent fucking over on WrA or something but outside of THE typefuck realm people are rather tight lipped about things. you've pretty much got two options. Be the arrogant cunt in goldshire, or join a rando guild and try to build things from there. There is no pick-up "classy" erp
No.59705
>>59634
I have some friends in it, and from what I've heard it's going through a bit of a rough spot due to having a split in its members. Honestly I blame an influx of non-/d/ members from the shitposting it got in XIVG. The first few days were great, the following weeks was only a decline.
I'll just stick to the few ERP'ers I have on Balmung that are into hardcore rape, impreg, mind-break and body modding.
No.59707
>>59705
>hardcore rape, impreg, mind-break and body modding.
Oh twelve yes… is there a linkshell? or is it one of those F-list groups? (I've kept an eye on that site but I dislike having a centralized web profile, I fear that it'll exclude people I might like, or have people approach me that I won't, or maybe i'm just a massive coward and have read too many horror stories about it.)
No.59709
>>59707
No, I just have met people who enjoy such things being done to them. Some enjoy more softore things like pet play, but it's always nice having a heal slut that's ready to coddle your cock after some dungeons close by.
No.59712
>>59707
If you enjoy those so much, post your IGN or contact info, you little slut. I'll take good care of you.
No.59718
>>59662
This. Moonguard is pretty much the only ERP spot.
I've gotten quite a bit on my human chick just questing from 1-15 before turning to dungeons.
Every other server I've tried is completely barren. Argent Dawn was okay back in vanilla but it's a ghost town now in comparison.
My only advice is to avoid the level 1 characters. A lot of shitters and trolls make level 1's to mess around with.
No.59780
>>59718
>Get MRP
>Aggressively screen
No.60204
Anything in STO or CO? I've got a couple of Captains I could tart up, if I thought it would get them bounced on some Orion girlcock, and I've been meaning to try CO.
No.60214
>>59718
Any uh. Hot tips for getting action? I've been half-planning to try the free trial for a while and I think 1-15's about all you can do in that anyway.
No.60412
Anyone else try their luck on Roleplay Heaven? Private wow rp server. GM commands, private phases. Pretty sure you can erp in private phases if all parties are cool with it. Just don't get too public, some folks get super cunty. Averages 80 to 150 people depending on one time.
It still blows my mind that we don't have a wow erp private server.
No.60427
>>60412
I've only ever seen ERP private servers fail whenever one comes up. It's a shame because the freedom you could get on a private server just for ERP would be incredible.
They could probably even pull off stuff like letting you play with canon character models if you so desired.
>>60214
Honestly I've found more ERP in the game through F-List. I've got a few Warcraft profiles and usually the WoW channel has a good number of people in it. I like F-List for it a lot of the time because it makes cross-faction ERP stories a thing.
No.60471
>>59662
>>59529
This guy is wrong. If you want classy pick-up ERP with development and flirting you go to WRA. If you want to get decent gold rates for prostituting, go to MG.
Moon Guard has the same kind of slow paced pick-up ERP but it's less centered in lore and persistent-setting shit
WRA is more tight lipped, sure, but it revolves around ERP just as much as MG does. But it's literally the definition of classy
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>>56761
Yeah it's a blatant disregard for peoples time
every level 100 gets like 3k a day handed to them from their garrison and yet the rates I've seen on WRA are dismal - it's all about server culture and whether or not gold for erp is an established thing.
anyway I'm buying wow accounts for /erp/ turboneets while they're $5
they come with a free month that you can use to scramble enough erp-cash to buy a token (trial accounts can't use /say and have to communicate with their RP addons, with a real license you can actually solicit, mileage may vary)
email me with an essay if you want one, bonus points if you're NA and roll on wyrmrest accord so you can help mastermind the social collapse of the server
No.60536
>>60471
I haven't seen a lick of ERP on WRA, are there some secret spots I should be looking for or something?
No.60552
>>60536
i can't speak for WRA alliance because I never played it
if you're ally who knows they could be totally fucking sterile compared to MG alliance, but horde is a total fuckpit - it's just this weird established meta of flirt-relationship progression that's required for ERP to be facilitated. there isn't a 1:1 ERP windowshopping f-list type interface on WRA like there is on MG, but seriously even though everyone will deny it, 75% of RPers on WRA are obsessed with ERP
you just have to like… walk up "physically" to their character and play it cool for a while until you get to the "sit next to a body of water in-game and talk about your feelings" stage of the relationship
horde's rp hubs are the valley of honor bar in orgrimmar, murder row and the exchange in silvermoon city… most recently the ruins of lordaeron right before the belf teleporter orb in undercity
fundamentally you just look for people that say "dark mature" or whatever the fuck in their descriptions. it won't be straight up kink lists
Orcs are kind of autistic and probably won't be interested but the trolls, goblins and blood elves are complete fiends
No.60553
>>60536
on WRA you can't accost people on whispers you have to like… create a persistent-breathing lore based sexpot for their character to approach basically
No.61435
If anyone's fun with a rough, sadistic dom into breeding, being worshipped, lots of group scenes and plenty of raunchy fucking, add NaughtyNii#1952 !
Playing on Moonguard, currently leveling a shemale Mistweaver who needs her sweaty cock cleaned lots and lots~!
No.61436
>>61435
>Dominant healslut
Damn, now that would make tanking fun.
No.61437
>>61436
Healers were just meant to be dom's, anon. I love watching you silly little masochistic idiots take hits for me while I relax, staring at that cute little ass and imagining all the naughty things I'm going to do after we're out…or whispering lewd things to get you all flustered in the middle of our group!
Bonus points if you're in to breeding/impreg, collars, pain/marking/branding, and facesitting!
No.61439
>>61437
I'm into those kinks and a tank but on EU and dom.
Hope you find your lovely masochistic tank-whore to boss arround and abuse in front of the group.
No.61481
>>61436
I've played out both and I've always preferred this one since I play a female tank in a few mmo's. Dominant male healers are surprisingly hard to find compared to other class types.
No.61485
>>61481
My Mistweaver is a shemale, and I'm thinking of making my Holy Pally a futa, but I really want my Druid or Priest to be a big, strong male. Much more sadistic than the others, his devotion to his god a farce to gain the power to heal and reharm his victims over and over.
No.61619
So how long until you can send PMs with a free account in Champions Online?
No.61629
>>61619
With a new account it takes about a day. Cuts down on spammers a bit, but it's frustrating.
No.62086
>>61629
Are there any ERP friendly guilds/groups who will tolerate a total newbie to the game?
No.63728
>>51238
Huh, really? I've been playing that game for a bit and never even knew erp was a thing there. Any pointers/contact info?
No.64307
Well… do you think Black Desert have ERP potential?
No.65344
>>61435
Sounds hot as fuck. Healers are supposed to be doms, wish there was one for me :(
No.65351
No.65512
What about Scarlet Blade?
No.65518
>>65512
Apparently the community is against ERP.
No.65531
>>65518
Really? That's goddamn weird. It's one of the lewder games out.
No.67259
so which MMOs have the best erp communities?
No.67266
>>67259
Best is subjective, really, but the ones with the more active communities?
Blade & Soul is still growing and on occasion can be good.
Champions Online still has ERP despite drama outbursts.
Obviously there's WoW.
Second Life isn't the best place for it since the majority prefer using animations to jerk off/schlick to instead of typing, which is considered elitist.
Whichever Final Fantasy MMO is the most recent one has been pretty good for ERP.
I think TERA is still popular with ERP, but mostly with dickgirl and loli fetishists.
But generally this thread is for finding that out and we're all coming up blank as to which is the "best" one.
No.67267
>>67266
It saddens me that having basic literacy is considered elitist.
No.67270
>>67267
Tell me about it.
I still play MUDs and I get bitched at for criticizing people who use text-talking and have bad grammar on a medium where the primary method of communication is through text.
No.67276
>>67267
Some of them view it as you demanding they learn English. They take calling out literate roleplayers as elitist/racist as a matter of pride. Then again, if you’ve spent hundreds of dollars on your second life Barbie doll, and people won’t fuck it because you can’t type fuck in English, you’re bound to get a bit salty.
>>67266
I don’t play it at the moment, but I found the ERP scene in ffxiv to be the best I’ve seen for a long time. Big enough that when erp-celebs take root you can still ignore them.
No.67388
>>67276
I hadn't thought about folks who don't know much English, seems obvious now that you mention it. I can't imagine approaching someone that doesn't speak English or French as I don't know any other language, then again I probably haven't spent more than one hour or two in Second Life.