No.48602
Hello there boys and girls of /erp/! I have a proposal you might find appealing. I know there are plenty of you out there who haven't seen much ERP on F-List, and of course you don't want that! You'd love to have people hopping on your genitals without any delay or searching. And so, my proposition.
Let me (and anyone else here who's willing to) edit and critique your profile. We'll discuss what might be holding you back, where you're strong, and what might just need a little tweaking. We can also discuss your habits when interacting with others, your standards on RP, and anything else that might be relevant.
I know that this sounds pretentious; I'm well aware of that fact. I'm completely serious when I say that I want you to get play. You've been on a site specifically for sex, it sucks when that's denied to you. And that's why I'm offering this unbiased advice. Any fetish, any character, I will help you find a partner you're satisfied with.
Tl;dr I'm your free profile editor as a last resort if you haven't been laid.
No.48606
>>48602
What are your credentials? AKA, how do we know you're not as ERP-less as every other person and just wanna see what you've got in common with ERP-less players as a means to avoid it?
What base resources or profile-making tips would you recommend?
What would you say are the biggest mistakes a player could make when approaching a stranger for ERP, or attitudes to avoid when you're approached?
No.48611
Ahh, I'll help out I guess. How can I make these two more popular? That said, I barely put any work into them, so it might be that…
https://www.f-list.net/c/dyzek/
https://www.f-list.net/c/veruca/
For reference of what my 'popular' ones look like, just look at the alts listed on Veruca~
That said, they're probably all shit. Especially Reis.
No.48612
>>48606
Credentials are a bit of a problem as it would reveal who I am. Trust me, I don't want to seem pretentious and I genuinely want to help people get play. That said, I also put much more effort into my RP and interpersonal relations than my profiles. They're average at best. I'll drop hints as to my identity, but for now I'll say this: of my 91 bookmarks I've played with over half of them, and most of the remainder on that list are future partners. Nearly all of my play turns into long term and there's about a dozen or so one shots that I've done, but not bookmarked.
Base resources? Pick up a book on writing. No, seriously, grab the latest edition of The Elements of Style by Strunk and White and learn from it. Templates are not needed, nor are most of the things people add to their profile. As for basic tips on your profile, ask yourself a few questions when you look at it. "Did I use color well to draw attention to important points?" "Did I put large paragraphs of optional info into a dropdown?" "If I were looking at the profile for the first time, where do my eyes travel to, and do I want those areas to garner such attention?" Things like that.
Biggest mistake on both ends would be failing to be professional and courteous. Unless you're IC and have made that abundantly clear, be nice to the person you're talking to. Explain clearly and concisely what you're looking for, and what you'd like to do. Above all, if you turn them down for whatever reason then please thank them for spending their time to converse with you. A good attitude goes a long way.
No.48614
>>48611
I've got to head to work soon, so I'll give you my first impression upon seeing your profiles. More in-depth details after work.
You've hidden behind dropdowns. I know almost nothing about your characters until I look inside them, which isn't ideal. Try making a short summary of the character (aparagraph or two at most) and put it at the top of your profile, either above or below your quote. Consider what info is most relevant to your character and what's fluff. For example: Is your age important enough to mention or is it just… there? If it's the latter, leave it out of the intro paragraph.
No.48621
inb4 mentalist/sable again
No.48630
>>48621
You say that like it's a bad thing. Is it a bad thing?
No.48643
>>48630
Literally just flist drama, but if you're really curious.
The Mentalist and all other characters associated to them (Wont list, if you really just wanna know, look through some of the profile threads) is a pretentious ass hat that tries to add professionalism to smut. Often on some self righteous white horse, she goes out of her fucking way to antagonize fai most times and, while she may have the best intentions at heart, is just another no name faggot trying to be an attention whore on this board. That said, she's realized her ways and has stopped using her trip, though her ideals and writing style is still so distinctive that it'd be hard not to recognize her.
No.48644
I always like good critque and this is a character I like.
He's been called a power fantasy, and he may be, shades of a Gary Stu.
So, yeah feed back would be great.
https://www.f-list.net/c/gideon%20stormhoof/
No.48649
>>>>48644
Not OP, but prepare yer ass.
>Part I: That entire first paragraph
Yeah, I can see why he's called a power fantasy. You're basically throwing compliments and praises endlessly on your character, and you're being over-poetic about it, too. It's almost worshipy, like your character can do no wrong.
The only profiles I've seen that do this and pull it off in ways that manage to keep your interest are profiles with characters that are very vain. The character considers themselves the best, and as a player, you can go out of your way to let people know how great he is (but always mentioning hubris/pride/vanity being a fault of his, because you're fully aware that's what he is).
You, on the other hand, have a character that is obviously supposed to come off as wise, powerful, a natural leader, which in itself implies he's got a lot of charm… an all-around good guy, in short. You're not benefiting by trying to pass him off as the last coke on the desert.
If you want to mention he's become the leader of his tribe, that's all well and good: summarize his struggle to get there, mention what HE thinks of his tribe, whether he considers leadership to be a burden or a pride to carry.
When you write that first paragraph from the eyes of his adoring followers looking in, it feels like you're trying to get other players to perceive him the same way, without providing any quick context as to why we should see him that way. We should be loyal and love him and give him babies. Why? Sure, a bunch of minotaurs say he's the greatest thing since sliced bread, but why should I agree?
My suggestion would be, reconsider having the greeting summary be more about him, and less about how awesome people who already adore him think he is.
No.48651
>>48644
Messed up the quoting >>48649
>Part II: That War Chief story
This is the part where people could look in and say, "oh, well, he's really struggled, NOW I see why so many minotaurs would unite under him and follow his leadership!"
But I'm sorry, I don't think you achieved that at all.
The basic story is decent, I can see what you wanted to do with it. I just think it's badly executed and some bits of it don't make sense. This is partly just summary effect, with everything sounding overly easy for a character since you're just glossing over whatever actual struggles they went through, but it still leaves me going "meh."
>Super-talented youth that rises quickly through ranks.
You never actually mention any ages here, and I think that's damaging you. On the start of the first paragraph, I see him in his early 20's or late teens, if he's rising in ranks. At the end of the paragraph, he strikes me as a little child raging over not knowing how to read. If he's 20-something, I'd consider this a good flaw, as he once lacked patience despite being an adult. If he's a young teen or younger, that just makes him a Gary-Stu for being so naturally talented already.
>Abandons his people, comes back, effortlessly becomes leader, easily teaches everyone all the good stuff and is the savior of them before he hits 40
Minotaurs, as you paint them, are brutish, and your character was the sole, brave soul who went out to learn more and become a smart warrior. Alright, good! That means he's going to be resented by the ones he abandoned to pursue an unusual desire for knowledge, right?
No.48652
>>48651
>cont.
Well,I actually have no clue what his people thought of him leaving, you don't mention it at all. They can't have resented him too much, though, because he came back and he became the new leader, and apparently no one minded? Just how long was he gone, anyway? How many years did it take him to leave and learn, to the point of not only knowing how to read and write, but be called a scholar? I'd figure it would take several years.
Now, he spent all those years away from war, learning… how is he still talented and strong enough to defeat the strongest of his people and take leadership? You even make a point to say he had a super easy time out of it, further boosting your character above everyone else who had all the reasons to be more fit than him and give him struggle. Am I supposed to respect him for becoming the leader of his tribe, when the last leader was an "old cow" and "no contest" for him? Seems like he's had it pretty easy.
What's more, whatever struggle he COULD have gone through in his own learning process and the process of making his tribe better, you swipe away in the next sentence, too: "He educated them and soon they swept over all the other tribes." Well, if it was that easy to educate thousands of minotaurs, then I guess Gideon himself would've only needed a year at most to learn to read, write, and be a scholar. No struggle whatsoever, and thus I feel no sympathy for his so-called victories.
Gideon has done in 40 years what should have been done in a lifetime or two. Re-educating a whole tribe, and then thousands of minotaurs, does not sound like it should be an easy task, yet he achieves it with little to no struggle. Outside his momentary frustration with books, I also spot no real flaws mentioned for him. He's… perfect. Perfect characters are not interesting to play with.
You need to go over his story, and ask yourself, "would this really have been that easy to achieve?" You need to let Gideon struggle and grow, have some flaws, and maybe have him not achieve so much. Maybe he's still struggling with changing the cultural outlook of his tribe on reading. Maybe several of the strongest minotaurs don't think he should be the leader. There are likely a few people that worship him within the tribe, but surely the largest part just respects him or tolerates him. Maybe he didn't even manage to become the leader, but came back in an attempt to grow strong enough to defeat a non-old-cow leader, so his eventual victory will be all the more sweeter, and gain real respect from his peers.
No.48653
>>48652
Thanks. Good input. I'll go back and work on it some more with these thoughts in mind.
No.48656
>no credentials
>only 90 bookmarks
This is why these threads are trash. It's the blind leading the blind.
No.48658
>>48656
>not having so many RP requests you have to disable your bookmarks on some characters
to avoid a wall of 10+ messages on login
cummon step it up
Seriously though, can we just have a thread where everyone adds in suggestions for profiles? That could work out.
No.48664
Posting from work so I won't have much to say.
>>48656
If I did provide credentials, would that lead to me being hated for intruding on other's characters? Probably.
Will this do? It's not my most popular character but it should help get the point across.
>>48658
We'd likely run into the credentials issue again.I probably should disable my bookmarks but I do enjoy talking with almost all of them.
No.48672
No.48673
>>48672
Err, well, 185 bookmarks but not so much rp
No.48674
Yeah, and Danalia the Elf got 350+ bookmarks.
Twice. My alts all had a hundred plus. If you guys were following by bookmarks, you'd actually listen to the shit I said.
No.48677
>>48664
I was actually kidding with the whole credentials thing, sorry people are harping on that. Ignore those kind of responses and just set out to show the support you wanted to show.
I also vote we make this a general feedback thing, as it can be very useful anyway.
No.48678
>>48672
Dear lord, that picture's not to my tastes in the very least.
Have you considered cropping it strategically so it won't be that much of an eyeful and still invite people to look over to the pictures tab? It looks… clunky, just pasted hugely there.
No.48684
>>48678
The inline is new. but I hadnt considered that. I think Ill do that with a resize of a picture I had commissioned recently, once it gets finished.
Anything else? Non pic related?
No.48691
>>48684
Rezise or just crop, with programs like paint.net you can put on a transparent background, so you can get some nifty effects that work well with the profile without overpowering it.
I think people are getting a bit over-excited with inlines, plopping them everywhere without really thinking about whether or not it'll make the profile more appealing overall or just save people from checking out their pictures. Which is a darn shame, because you can get really creative with 'em.
Aside from that, though, maybe just look over what you've got and reconsider moving it around a bit?
For example, your description is quite lengthy, but a large part of it is completely focused on physical appearance. This is obviously important to your character, given her unusual body, but might be a bit much to go through on first glance (or not – it's obvious you get plenty of views and bookmarks and all).
I wouldn't say "hide the description behind a collapsible", because you've got a few already, but maybe separate it a bit further from the character basics you want people to focus on most, with those being on top?
The last two collapsibles could probably be grouped together (under a more encompassing collapsible of "Anasebiel's Relationships", maybe), but it all depends on whether you feel good with the profile as it, and whether it's worked well for you or not.
No.48707
>>48611
My first question: Do you advertise yourself on the LFRP rooms?
And a follow up: If so, can you paste an ad or two so we can review it?
>>48643
I've heard that Mentalist is going to stop bitching at Fai and focus more on helping others in need
>>48644
The other anon had already covered everything I was going to say, and more.
>>48674
I was talking about people I had bookmarked. I've bookmarked 91 folks from F-List, and about half of them I have had an RP with.
>>48677
That works, I just noticed a lot of people complaining about not getting any. Best place to start working on is your profile.
No.48710
A favorite character of mine that never seems to get a lot of chances. Will soon look at other profiles and give my two cents, but I'll stick this in for now.
https://www.f-list.net/c/trickster%20makoto/
No.48721
>>48710
Okay, cursory examination reveals a few places where you can cut content. Take the bonus pictures dropdown and put those pics on your profile, since you now have the space. The OOC dropdown is nice but unwarranted, and could easily be removed. "The Frequently Visited" and "Best Case Scenario can both be removed without damaging the profile. The top portion, kind of a "Calling Card", seems kind of excessive.
But most of all, it isn't sexy. Your sexual scenarios are hidden inside a dropdown, your images are not erotic, and you've got nothing in your profile that mentions sex until you hit the kinks list. I could see this profile on any other RP site.
No.48802
Help
https://www.f-list.net/c/daniel%20the%20bastard/
I don't know how to write something that says, "Don't take this too seriously, but actually I do want some nice romance too."
No.48806
>>48802
Add some customs stating this, and switch your desired RP length away from Long Term. Start with those two steps and post an ad or two, then let me know how it went in… 24 hours or after a good RP, if that happens first.
And if you want sex, make yourself sexy. Add some suggestive stuff into your backstory, personality, wherever. You fight bare knuckled and shirtless? Tell me more, stud.
No.48813
>>48806
>switch away from long term
but I do want long term love..
No.48815
>>48813
As do I, but all my profiles have No Preference listed. It's a weird thing but what happens is nobody will approach you unless they too are looking for long term play. However, they don't want to see that bit because they feel obligated to keep up the RP even if they don't like it. In all my long terms, a one-shot was the start of the long term. It showed them I was capable, literate, and had what they wanted.
You'll still get the long term love. You just have to go on a date first.
No.48817
>>48815
>>48813
I see it as the equivalent of a first date: Saying that you want to marry right off the bat will hardly net you points with the people who want to marry as well.
No.48824
Oh look, a profile critique thread again. Let's get started, I'll only critique on profile design and not concepts, because it seems enough people have already done that.
>>48611
>I barely put any work into them, so it might be that…
Yep, basically. Dyzek has a bad icon, and has collapsables for really no reason. If your entire profile is two paragraphs, why not just use a heading for each one instead of forcing people to click that damned button? For Veruca, same thing about the icon, but unlike Dyzek I won't say to uncollapsable stuff because it seems to go with the "theme" of your other profiles so it works even if it isn't to my tastes.
>>48644
Completely Average, which is fine. You have 40 views man, go look harder.
>>48672
>giant inline that forces you to scroll down
Someone already pointed it out, but yeah.
>>48710
That inline does nothing for the profile, and makes it look bad on other themes that aren't blue. Why the Frequently Visited is presented above what you're currently seeking is a mystery to me. Under Settings set Custom Kinks to show up first, it's good for people actually using the site instead of 3rd party stuff. I think the biggest problem is that the way you're using that theme looks bad… and what really confuses me is that your other profile looks pretty…
>>48802
>two short quotes in a collapsible instead of in an actual quote
Come on. Also, that icon is just not appealing in the slightest.
>that last collapsible
Seems to have a lot of LORE if that's really all you're out for to be honest. Also, getting to your actual question, just put Romance under your Custom Faves, people will get the message.
No.48828
Gonna throw this one up on the grill, though I think my lack of interest may be solved if I just show up in f-chat more.
https://www.f-list.net/c/zellen
No.48829
My profiles are always very bare-bones but I'm curious about how can improve these two:
https://www.f-list.net/c/derisyan/
https://www.f-list.net/c/barag/
No.48830
>>48829
Your character bio in Barag is short enough to be the main focus on the scene. If anything, the OOC bits are less important, and should be the ones to go in a collapsible, if you want to use them. I would recommend not using them at all: like you said, they're bare-bones, you don't have that much info. You could pretty up the format a lot, though.
No.48836
No.48837
>>48836
What even is this. I read through the profile and know nothing about your character other than she's a bimbo. If that's her sole defining quality, then, well, congratulations, you've achieved that.
No.48838
>>48836
>>48837
What is it? Its just a cutie. Dont talk shit about dife or I'll cut you.
Besides, its a waste of energy! She's probably too stupid to know what an insult is.
No.48854
>>48828
You'll want to find better quality images to put in with the one that shows your clothing. Also, a paragraph about your appearance would help immensely.
>>48829
With Derisyan I'm left wanting more. More about his looks, his personality, and his backstory. Why did he pursue a nomadic lifestyle? Would I want to punch his smug face in if we started arguing? Where does the cult come into play on his life?
Barag needs to have his OOC info in a dropdown instead of his IC stuff. And agaim, I want to know more about him. Is he pompous? Modest? Melancholic? Lastly he needs some customs, perhaps a few pertaining to wishes?
>>48836
You desperately need a paragraph or two explaining how the hell you ended up that way. I honestly thought you were ESL from the first part of your profile. Also, make sure that you spellcheck and check for grammar. I spotted a few extra capitolizations in the first paragraph.
No.48855
>>48854
And of course it dropped my name. Sorry about that.
No.48870
https://www.f-list.net/c/sarin%20jacob%20gasse
I feel dumb for asking for critique on a character I never even actually finished creating… but.. I made him on a whim, based off a short story I had written. The whole of the profile is woefully short, and is missing several paragraphs that I either didn't finish writing or lost. But what little is there, what could I improve of it?
https://www.f-list.net/c/tara%20lawless/
This is my main, and she's more of a hub character than anything, as I don't like preset backstories and personalities, etc. The usual thing people do on f-list.
Mostly I guess I'd like critique on the two story outlines I have up there, as I can never find anyone who can or will play anything even slightly that… 'serious'. I've had a couple people comment on them saying they liked them, hadn't seen anything so gritty or real, but they always either disappoint me quickly with how they approach it, or vanish after one or two posts. Mostly I just get random furries and weirdos who want me to play her as a 5 year old and get raped. I guess I'm doing something wrong? :<
No.48872
>>48836
What's the deal with this thing anyway? Does she have downs syndrome IRL or something?
No.48880
>>48870
>Sarin Jacob Gasse
The problem with characters made o a whim based on a specific story you thought up is lack of focus. Your profile suffers from it. It's not wrong to have the detailed story in mind, or have it available in the profile, but you don't want people who click on your profile to navigate through all of that background first and foremost. You need to look over what you have and what you want to add, and decide which parts are actually important to show on a profile, and which bits are you just wanting to show off the neat story in your head.
I ain't saying it's not neat, and I've always found characters with a solid backdrop the most consistent to play with (if you manage to match up with them at all, as the more specific a backstory, the more it limits interaction with other characters who might not fit perfectly into the canon you created). But still, you want to summarize. Everything else, every other stage of his life, could probably go on a collapsible, but you want a summary on the top, which either A) goes over all stages in as compact a ay as possible, or B) summarizes the end product.
Focus on what Jacob is like, some of his personality, hint at what hardships he had without spelling them all out, and that'll let people decide "oh, yes, I want to see if I can roleplay with this person." If they want to know more, you'll have it available, but if they don't, and are the type that prefer to find out a character's story IC, then they still know the must-knows of your character.
No.48881
>>48870
>Tara Lawless
>My idea for this would be a semi-incestuous story that may or may not have any actual sex scenes.
>[…]an emotional affair that is doomed to never become physical or become consummated
>Kind of a Koi Kaze kind of story, but they don't bone at the end.
You're on a site that serves manly for erp and you don't understand why people aren't very interested in this?
I'll tell you why no one is approaching things the way you want them to: you already have a very specific idea of how the scene must go, and so nothing lives up to your expectations. What you can do to fix this is double or triple-check OOC that they read your whole idea and are okay with what you have in mind, but I can't see either of the scenes you set up working as a roleplay and not a novel. I say this as a para to multi-para player who loves a strong character focus.
Both of your ideas could be read as sexual, but that OOC note in your first idea makes it sound like you don't want sex in them at all. If I was just going off the first paragraph of your idea, I'd assume you want Tara to be in lesbians with her sister and woed by her, physically if it is to crush her "puritanical beliefs." One glance at your kink lists, which have "sex driven" in favs, and it seems like an appealing deal if I'm into incest yuri with a chance of rape. I'm honestly puzzled as to why you DON'T know why people would approach you asking her to be 5 years old and rapeable.
To top it off, the idea of playing Tara's older sister doesn't seem all that appealing, when she's doing all the chasing and Tara herself just reacts to it and focuses on her own demons. The way you've worded it puts Tara in a super-passive role, and those roles are often not interesting to play against.
Your second idea has the same problems of it sounding very sexual, which I'm guessing wasn't your intention. Only, now it sounds like Tara will be a willing sex slave or do the raping.
Your ideas are very story and conflict-driven, and you'd be better off putting a big header at the top saying as much. Take a look over your kink list, and realize that many things in your fav and yes conflict with the ideas you're proposing, and which could be causing the confusion for people who might skim the ideas and then head right for the kink lists.
If you're on f-chat, stick to Story-driven channels or other literate channels, and have your ads make it clear you don't want sex.
No.48882
>>48838
No white-knighting please!
>>48854
I don't know what ESL is, but I'll check those errors, thanks!
>>48837
Thanks!
>>48872
That's a little mean!
No.48895
Could always look for things to improve on!
https://www.f-list.net/c/eire%20braun/
No.48902
>>48895
I've brought this up before and I'm going to bring it up again: Where's the sex? F-List is intended for erotic play but I see barely a hint of eroticism till I hit your kinks list. Play around with a few words, add some suggestive tone to it. ESPECIALLY your scene ideas, those should get anyone at least halfway aroused.
No.48912
>>48602
My profile is in need of an overhaul, so some critique would be nice. I know it's shit but knowing exactly how it's shit would help me focus my efforts better.
https://www.f-list.net/c/swiftwing%20of%20skytop/
No.48914
>>48912
The format looks neat, save for the huge inline. Crop it or move it to your profile pictures, you almost never benefit from a huge-ass inline that forces most users to scroll down to the actual information.
No.48921
>>48912
A usually submissive, usually bottom, gay gryphon… how often does that happen?
Anyways, besides the inline that can be removed, as >>48914 said, you could benefit greatly by having some more images on your image tab. There's a plethora of feral gryphons out there, both erotic and not.
Splash a little color into your profile. Pick one and use it for titling your paragraphs.
Your dropdowns are quite lengthy and that may dissuade some people who equate profile length to post length. As for the content, it's informative. All around I see something missing, which brings me to…
Sex. Apart from a brief hint of your genitals and a disclaimer about your kinks, there's nothing. If you're looking for a more sexual roleplay then you have to convey that in your profile.
No.48946
>>48881
… I'm feeling really retarded and air-headed for not noticing the obvious paradoxes therein earlier. At least for the second scenario it ```was``` supposed to be sexual in nature with a ``focus`` on emotional conflict, and now that you bring it up I can definitely see the glaring faults in either. I do pretty much exclusively look for and post ads in those channels, but not to much success. I guess because, as you pointed out, I've got more preconceptions of the stories than I originally assumed. The header idea sounds really good, though, and would probably solve my presumed problem fairly well. I think I'll probably just remove my little pre-made scenarios though since they seemingly don't work as roleplays the way I envision them.
Thank you so much for looking over my junk! I'll definitely try and re-work everything I have to be less confusing.
No.48964
Here's my most recent one (and one I'd like to focus on now)
https://www.f-list.net/c/hana%20tahadhari/
My previous two didn't get much action, and I'd kind of like to change that with this one. I -think- I may have done some things right, though I'd like a fresh pair of eyes to take a look.
No.48992
>>48914
The inline is new, yeah, and I went entirely overboard in my attempt to play with the shiny new feature. I'll switch it over to images.
>>48921
It doesn't happen often, from what I've seen, and it's rare for me to find partners… But it's what floats my stoat!
More images is a good point. I wanted to stick to the same coloration that matches my description, but there's even a fair few of those out there.
Color, too, is a good point. I'll probably pick a tan or orange, something symbolic of the character. It is lengthy, but I'm okay with that turning a few people off- My posts do tend towards the longer side at times.
Aaand sex. Yeah. When I first made the character I wanted to leave some of that vague, both for the sake of being of flexible and maintaining some mystique, but… I've been on f-list so long I've pretty much codified what I'm looking for, and could probably do well to expound on that in my profile.
Thanks for the critique, both of you! It'll be a little while before I have the time to really sit down and implement the changes, but they will be made.
No.48997
>>48964
Do away with the "Outstanding Skills and Possessions" collapsibles. They're both empty and give no hint as to what could be put in there in the first place. Consider an indentation, [ big ] format, or [ header ] For your purple-colored title, make it pop, add a space between that and the bulk of the text that comes after. Break down in paragraphs, too, as it looks a bit chunky, all that text.
No.49326
Furshit warning: https://www.f-list.net/c/alexia%20pines/, criticism obviously welcome.
I'd really like some advice towards what else I should add in regards to the profile description. So far I think it covers personality and backstory alright, but it's short as fuck and feels like something's missing. Let me know if my kinks are alright, bloated, or whatever too.
No.49344
https://www.f-list.net/c/umbran%20betrayer
Just made a new profile, it's Rosa from Bayonetta 2. Any suggestions welcome. I'm debating on adding another paragraph or two going into more detail about Rosa herself, but I have a feeling it might be too much text upright - I'm considering either adding a drop-down or two for that, or just leave it as it is.
No.49348
>>49326
>Pansexual
>No males, cuntboys, or male herms
Pansexual doesn't meant what you seem to think it means. It's understandably hard to properly add a sexuality to an intersex character, but this is just ridiculous. Just leave sexuality out and put an "Accepted genders" note big and clear on the top of your profile.
Really, do it. Characters who adopt"pansexual" as their sexuality yet proceed to be anal about a bunch of genders they don't like (usually the ones you listed) are the absolute worst. You're not pansexual, you just don't have a proper label, and proceed to mislabel your character even worse to cope.
Also, the black with faint gray glow behind it looks hideous on the blue theme, I'm not sure what theme you worked it out for. Just go with the standard font color. Couldn't really be bothered to read it, my eyes hurt by the second line.
No.50451
As a blue, what should I be doing to get more attention?
https://www.f-list.net/c/richard%20courval/
No.50453
No.50456
>>50453
That's what I have my trap character for.
No.50492
>>50451
Put more love into your customs!
No.50501
>>50451
Stop being a fat slob, that only works for girls.
No.50570
>>50501
…but I am a girl!
>>50492
Better descriptions you mean? More detail? More enthusiasm about them?
No.50830
So uh, I'm kind of new to F-list and I've been somewhat hesitant to jump into anything based on how cliquey I keep hearing it is. But I've been curious/haven't seen it modeled anywhere–
I've had a handful of characters in the past that, either for magical reasons or just some pre-RP decision to suit my partner, might have a different physical sex in different scenarios. Usually this would mean a ladytype sprouting a mandick.
How is this typically handled, or is it just sort of frowned upon to have such wishy-washy genitalia?
No.50841
>>50830
First of all, almost any social website catches some flack. As with any gathering of humans, there is both good and bad.
To answer your question: It's not the norm, but it's not uncommon. "Transformation" fetish is wide-spread on the site, and cockgrowth is usually considered to fall on the more vanilla side of that spectrum/fetish. As for the how: anything from being a magical being/girl, potions, hormones - anything. Just put down "Transformation" and make a custom kink that you like to change your gender. Explain why, in which situations and perhaps how. And good luck with the lewding!
No.50848
>>50841
Cockgrowth is a funny word.
But yeah, I guess that seems straight forward enough. I just wasn't sure if there was a "conventional" way since some ERP circles seem to have an undercurrent of "anyone who even sometimes considers playing a hermaphrodite is cancer".
Thanks. Good luck to you, too!
No.50971
>>50848
Don't take /erp/ as a sample of what happens in f-list. /erp/ is salty cancer, everyone comes here to complain and the people who are enjoying themselves and their kinks get shit on more, f-list is far less intimidating.
You'll notice herms are "worst gender" here, and everyone everywhere has seemingly played with a "bitchbreaker", but in my 4 years of playing through f-list, I've never once met a bitchbreaker, nor had any major issues with any herm (unless they had a psycho player behind it, and that happens in every gender).
Just jump in and have fun, and try to ignore the bad players or stuck-up ones. Look for chat channels that fit your interests, forums that fit your interest, or lurk roleplay ads for someone who looks like fun, read over the profile to spot any strong problems there might be, and if there's none, just send over a message. It's simple, it's fun, and if it ever gets stressful, just take a break and you'll be good as new.
No.51018
General advice, part 1: Show, Don't Tell.
It's a common thing to want to describe your character's past or habits. When doing this it's a great idea to Show, Don't tell. A degree hanging above a desk is showing, "I graduated from University" is telling. In ERP this means you avoid phrases that simply tell us something: she is aroused, he is erect, etc. Instead you should focus on what shows: the flushed face and wet spot on her panties, the tent in his pants, etc.
This concludes Show, Don't Tell. Feel free to ask if you have any questions.
No.51027
>>50971
>You'll notice herms are "worst gender" here
That's only been a thing in the threads for people who use F-List though
No.51029
>>51027
..Yeah. That's what was just said. Dont let the Flist experinces from here sway your decision because most people from here that use it are jaded assholes.
No.51033
>>51029
No, what I'm saying is that it's not that /erp/ users are whiny bitches complaining about futa and the like, it's literally only the people that use F-List here that do that.
No.51067
>>51033
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. Of course f-list users complain more about it. What other large ero rp communities do you know with a large amount of futa characters?
Steam has no fetish lists or customizable profiles, skype roleplaying is scattered at best, litphoria has a tiny userbase, as do most ero rp forums. None of them are large ero roleplay communities with profile customization. None of them have such an easy an convenient way to contact partners as f-list, either through chat or note, and none of them make it as easy to be contacted, either.
So, none of them have such a chance of exposing you to a profile trend you might dislike as f-list does, and you're less likely to get frustrated with a trend you don't like. If you're not frustrated with a trend or gender, you're less likely to be whiny about it.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
Just because there's a lot of loud complainers in here who happen to come from f-list, doesn't mean all futa characters on f-list are horrible or even unwelcome. It just means there's more futa there than in other ero-rp scenes. Besides, the point was:
>don't take /erp/ [complaints on f-list] as a sample of what happens in f-list
Which is valid enough?
No.51118
>>51067
>I'm not sure what you're trying to say
What I'm saying is that /erp/ as a whole isn't, as >>50971 put it, "salty cancer [where] everyone comes… to complain and the people who are enjoying themselves and their kinks get shit on." This is really only a thing in F-List threads and thecomplaining/autism threads which are, by and large, centered on F-List.
>What other large ero rp communities do you know with a large amount of futa characters?
I don't know any other ero rp communities period, so can't really add anything meaningful there.
>Besides, the point was:
>don't take /erp/ [complaints on f-list] as a sample of what happens in f-list
>Which is valid enough?
Wouldn't know, never used it, so can't say, nor was I arguing for or against that point. What I was pointing out was that the evaluation of the /erp/ userbase given really only applies to the subset of /erp/ that talks about F-List.
No.51131
>>51118
Ah, your problem is taking an obvious exaggeration as literal, gotcha.
I'll once more point you to "every large community is going to have subsections that are unhappy with it" once more, and invite you to look more thoroughly around /erp/. Doing both of these things will undoubtedly set you straight about the "only f-list userbase on /erp/ is salty/autistic" point you seem to be arguing.
No.51293
General advice, part 2: Post Length (yes really)
In all forms of writing the question will arise as to how much is too much. At what point does a story get bogged down and starts dragging on? This advice piece is NOT a lecture on how long to make your posts. It IS a few pointers to help you avoid "bloat" and other problems.
First off, you want to allow your partners to respond to your actions. Doing too much in your post will lead to them being overwhelmed. Plus, it lets them throw interesting twists into the mix. For example, your character admits that they're a virgin and proceeds to molest your partner. If you drop the molestation and focus more on the emotions your character is feeling, the way they squirm as they admit their shameful secret, then your partner can respond to that behavior better before the molestation occurs.
Secondly, you want to avoid too many ANDs. Your character can do a lot in a post, but that post tends to lose focus if you're doing this AND that AND the other thing AND one more AND still another. Too many ANDs make the post lose focus, and the quality of detail tends to drop too. A general rule of thumb (by no means a solid guideline) is no more than three major actions. The human brain responds well to threes, and it's easier to remember what happened. Capping at three can also allow you to focus more on details within these major actions.
Third, try building up posts. Let's say you're a multi-para RPer who loves rich, juicy detail but constantly winds up with partners who struggle to do even single paragraphs. This last bit of advice is a trend I've noticed that might help you out. When I started with smaller than my average post length, and made longer posts as time went on, my partner began to match me. I've practiced this with partners I've played with before and was surprised to find that they doubled or even tripled their post length. Give it a try and see what happens!
No.51297
>>51293
I'd actually note that you CAN use a "thing and thing and thing and thing" instead of "thing, thing, thing and thing" to get off a sense of feverish energy/franticness to it, but dont do it too often. It has to be few and far between to actually have that effect.
Also, new inline. Recheck this kek
https://www.f-list.net/c/Anasebiel%20Morbusai
No.51301
>>51297
Insome ways yes. Three major things should be the soft max. If your whole post is about groping, then it's usually best to stop at 3 zones/ actions. If you're in a feeling mood, then you certainly can go for more areas. You just might run into the issue of greater than three. It's important to note that these are guidelines, not rules (like a LEGO set)
There's a really stupid way to remember the three or less rule. Less than three when in an equation shows as < 3
No.51302
>>51297
It still looks kind of wonky. Most inlines do when they're just square boxes of a full-sized character shrunk not to be bulky, though. You should try out cropping or formatting it in some other way. If people want a full look at the character from glimpses, they can check out your picture section.
People are getting over-excited with the inlines, but not many are putting actual thought in how to make them appealing or have them as an enhanced to the profile, and not just a shortcut for people too lazy to check out the picture tab.
No.51844
I was wondering if I could get some help with this character:
https://www.f-list.net/c/nat%20edley/
It was my first profile I made, almost two years ago now, and I'd really like to fix up the shoddy writing a little.
Unfortunately, because I've been playing with them for so long, and the weird emotional attachment that you can end up with regarding much loved characters, I just can't look at it objectively. Every attempt to fix it up just ends with me changing the wording of a few things while missing the big picture entirely.
The short and simpleness is mostly deliberate.
No.51901
>>51844
You swing from character description to OOC notes to character description. It's all over the place and it's very rambly to read.
Copy-paste your information into a word document or whatever, and separate the descriptions in physical description, personality/story-related information, and OOC notes. "You can use whatever pronoun you want and I'll follow your lead" is OOC information, it has no business smack in the middle of things.
Also, reading over Nat's description, I'm VERY confused as to whether you want something sexual or not. Your kinks say "yes, bring on the sex," but near everything in your description hints otherwise. Nat doesn't have genitals, you say it might shudder or gasp at the slightest touch, but I have no idea if it can even orgasm or get any sort of release from sexual attention. You want to clear that up, preferably in the OOC section, or as a big note at the top of the profile (e.g. "Both/only sexual/nonsexual roleplays wanted"). If I was browsing your profile while hunting for a partner, I would've closed it after reading that first paragraph. Even if I'd kept reading, I would've been swung back and forth on whether sex is welcome or not, so even your kink list would have me VERY unsure of what you want in a roleplay.
Also, have green-eyed edits.
No.51915
>>51901
Thank you so much, I'll give it a whirl. Also, these edits are gorgeous, thank you!
No.52171
>>51293
As a multiparafag I can actually stand by this. I've had similar experiences.
No.52173
So I'm aware I need to work on the kinks, but other advice would be appreciated.
https://www.f-list.net/c/mio_akiyama/
Be gentle.
No.52178
I'm kind of confident with my profile and blame the lack of RPs on its niche'ness and my lazyness. But i'd like to hear other people's verdict on it, as i'm always eager to hear criticism to make my stuff better.
I've contemplated on attempting to make the background story a bit less grimdark but other than that i don't know what else to do. Maybe some inline picture to give it some visual spice?
https://www.f-list.net/c/katya%20anastasis/
No.52180
>>52173
First-impression wise, that black-with-blurry outline effect doesn't read well at all in the blue background. I'm not sure the ratio of people who use dark vs light vs blue defaults on f-list, but you should consider changing it to the default font color, or solid black/gray/white.
You could work on your general description of the character, as it's quite awkward to read, and the character seems a bit inconsistent. Problems I spotted:
- Up to reading the OOC bit, I had NO idea this was supposed to be some fan character / spin on a canon of any show. You should clear it up top, as your character seems to be a R63 take on a canon, so just that could confuse fans of K-On.
>Even though he acts mature, calm and collected most of the time, he freaks out from things he's afraid of, are gross, or pertain to gore.
This seems completely unnecessary to have in the profile: who doesn't freak out from "things you're afraid of, think are gross, or pertain to gore"? You should mention a few things he's afraid of or thinks are gross, because otherwise, you're just making a REALLY blanket statement that applies to nearly every person out there and tells me nothing of your character.
- If you're exclusively looking for K-On roleplay, you could keep your current description. If you're open to OCs and non-K-On scenes, though, consider taking out the references to the show in the description, or explaining them better. For example:
>He is a tsundere towards Ritsu often, due to Ritsu's immaturity.
As I don't watch K-On I have no clue who Ritsu is, or how immature s/he might be, so this tells me nothing about Mio. Fans will know, non-fans will just be puzzled. Not to mention anyone not familiar with the term "tsundere" will be lost as well.
It's fine to have a niche profile, or a fandom-centered profile, but only so long as you understand it's likely to turn off anyone not looking for that fandom. So yeah, that last point only counts if you want to attract play outside K-On.
> …so he has completely devoted HERSELF to the club, and during the school festival performance in the fall of HER first high school year…
Little mistakes here, you're slipping from male pronouns to female ones. I'm not sure if it just slipped by you while trying to describe the non-R63 version, or if you copy-pasted the description from somewhere and just missed these, but read over it and try to fix it if you've got time.
Lastly, just work on your kink lists. Customs are nice and all, but I feel people underestimate how helpful the standard kinks are for basic player chemistry. That said, if you want to keep only customs, go ahead.
No.52182
Just created a centaur adventurer girl for more story-oriented roleplays. Would love some feedback or partners!
http://www.f-list.net/c/Ameilia%20Landsknecht
No.52234
>>48824
Changed some stuff on demand
>>two short quotes
It's a joke, for that gay porno that /v/ loves with the boss of this gym and such.
What's a better profile image for me?
No.52320
No.52442
https://www.f-list.net/c/circo%20de%20morbo
My *WIP* Main page for a bunch of characters I'm going to have. Any pointers or directions I should follow in general?
No.52984
Hello, I'd love some pointers for my character Cyra. I never seem to get any ction with her, and it's annoying because I really like her.
https://www.f-list.net/c/cyra%20the%20source
Thanks in advance for any advice
No.53028
>>51302
Im actually using the second one now
No.53033
I feel like I'm falling in an inevitability loop. I don't think this is a good time to try and get into F-List at all for play.
>Make character.
>No play.
>Make EXTREMELY descriptive character
>No play.
>Make slutty, to the point character
>No play.
>Make a worst-gender.
>Fucking nothing.
I don't care anymore. I'm sick of making characters that don't even work despite vagina appeal in desperate stretches. Just -what- do people want? If I have to play something I don't particularly fucking enjoy to get some textual nookie, or at the least, some practice RPing some in that regard - so be it. Male and female characters alike - absolute zeroes.
WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE / THE MASSES WANT?
No.53038
>>53033
Okay, make the character you'd most like to play AS. Then link it here. Without a profile we can't do much to give you helpful advice.
No.53053
No.53106
>>52984
Source thing is overplayed
No.53107
>>53053
A little too blank on the profile side of things. Like the custom kinks tho.
No.53108
>>53033
True. Give us some examples.
No.53109
>>53107
Thanks. I'll see what I can come up with.