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2d9a7a No.6

Hello fellow Anons,

So I just saw this board linked from /philosophy/ and thought it might be a good place to start a general discussion on the subject of time..

So what are your views on the subject? What is time? Does it exist? Kantian time vs. Newtonian time? Would time travel be possible? What might be the implications? Does it matter? ….

Let your imaginations run wild.

a72a95 No.7

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"If you can dream it you can build it"!

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/sunearth/news/mag-portals.html
http://mms.gsfc.nasa.gov/

Time is interesting. I don't know what it is entirely, however I am sure that it is not separate, it is linked together with space as space-time. I think time does exist in a sense and that time travel IS indeed possible, just not practical yet.

Time as most people see it is as something that is 100% existing, yet the way they define it is as something that seems like a virtual tool of sorts. I think the first step is understanding the electromagnetic spectrum.

I hold the belief that our universe is constructed out of some sort of divine substance which forms the 3 parts visible in our dimension, those parts paired into twos being: electricity and magnetism (Electromagnetism), space and time (Space-time) and of course matter and energy (somehow linked together).
I am aware of "antimatter" and perhaps it is the world of opposites such as "time-space" instead of "space-time" I don't I understand yet.

I believe that time is a special feature of space and that both space-time, as well as matter and energies properties comes from the electromagnetic spectrum, which comes forth from something more divine. Having said that I also believe that this trinity-pair (electromagnetism, space-time, matter energy) were the "elements" the Alchemists spoke of. Space being Air, Time being Water, Matter being Earth, Energy being Fire, and Electromagnetism being Light, or Aether. Likewise each "element" is a state of being. (solid;earth, liquid;water, gas;air, plasma;fire, light;aether).

The double slit experiment shows how crazy electrons are, being able to be in two locations at once, and being able to "think" in the sense that they are aware of observation, and perhaps observing on their own.

18e52e No.8

>>7
> matter and energy (somehow linked together)
I posit that matter and energy are in fact the same thing. They are ultimately the same thing in different forms. A certain amount of water, for example, can turn into a certain amount of ice. Likewise, matter changes form into energy at a given rate, that rate being E = MC^2. A nuclear explosion does not destroy matter and create energy (that would violate the laws of conservation), but much rather the explosion is the matter itself "evaporating" into energy.

One mistake you make is that you classify electromagnetism as separate from matter-energy when it is clearly an instance of energy.


As for OP's "Does time exist?" I think that it is a concept necessary for life and the sciences, but that it is not a 'thing'. Time, in my mind, is like wind. You cannot catch it in a bottle. I disagree with people who say that motion(change) is determined by space and duration of time. I hold that time is determined by space and degree of change.

In the end, Time is like fire, not elemental fire, but fire fire. It is not a thing itself, but a reaction of multiple things working together. It is no more possible to go back in time than it is to unburn wood.

a72a95 No.9

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>>8
That was my proposition as well.

I believe that all 4 states come from the light, in fact I'd go as far as to say light is the 5th state of matter but that sounds silly. I did not mean to explain that matter/energy is different at all.

Time is the perception of space being bent, or perhaps you could define it as the material in motion, although the material and void are also part of the same structure and contain the same properties.
Time is a property of light as well as mass and density and so on and creates the illusion of "going somewhere" or "coming from somewhere" when in fact the beginning and end are the same. It is an explainable phenomena, although its not as it is commonly perceived.

"Do not try and bend the spoon, instead only try to realize the truth, there is no spoon".

18e52e No.10

>>9
The reason I say that Time is determined by Space and Change is that both Space and Change seem to affect time. Time can dilate from either gravity (a warp in the fabric of space) or from velocity (degree of change). It might also be possible to dilate time through other changes like a change in energy state, but I'm not sure how effective that might be.

For what it's worth, I figure that matter-energy is actually an illusion cast by perturbations in the fabric of space. It is not mass that warps space, but the Zenith/Nadir of the warp in space that is the matter. In this system, energy would be a shallow but wide impression in space and matter is a deep but narrow dent. If the impression made by energy is too great (that is, a lot of energy is released at once in one place) then that furrow would soon 'pop' into a shallower impression with a few deep matter dents (thus explaining why particles percolate out of the energy fields generated in a particle collider).

Of course, that's visualizing the universe as a sheet of metal and it wouldn't actually be dents and bends but varying levels of spacial density.

I feel like a madman for having typed that out. I hope that I'm not and that this post actually made sense.

a72a95 No.11

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>>10
I think I understand what you mean.

I had an idea once, there is matter and anti-matter, similar to how there is light and darkness, do you think it would be possible with high levels of negative energy to go back in time? Time travel has always interested me as well as instantaneous travel via portals.

08b9f2 No.16

As I've come to see time, is that time is but shifts from one parallel reality to another. Everything is here and in the now. All parallel realities are happening simultaneously, co-existingly.

Time can behave differently, for each being. For some it can feel as if it has been an eternity, and for some as they have "jogged" through it.

It goes in a circle, no end and no beginning, and it's all happening simultaneously, co-existingly.

Time as I see it, is not happening on a flat line.

08b9f2 No.17

>>16

You are the "captain of the ship" as I like to say it. Which means that you are the one choosing your realities. Each reality you shift to, billions of shifts a second, and all that you experience in those realities, is there for your benefit; both what one perceive as positive or negative.

One can't change the world one is in, one can only change oneself.

08b9f2 No.18

>>17
>One can't change the world one is in, one can only change oneself.

As one is, one shifts through realities.

a72a95 No.19

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Has anybody consciously noticed any shifts?

I have a friend who has a step father that owns a mustang, I've seen it be white, white with stripes and other colors. Now I highly doubt this is multiple cars. I've also had another friend who had a car that was blue and it was black another day and then blue again.

18e52e No.20

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>>11
This is how I picture it in a sort of two-dimensional heat map. The red represents the 'dent', high density, the particle (in this case, let's say electron). The blue represents the lowest possible energy state. The green is intermediate density. The green tail is the (in this case) kinetic energy actually pulling the particle ahead. The spiraling arms are meant to illustrate the spin in the dent/density.

A positron (anti-electron) would be the same thing with an opposite spin. The spin is very important as it is what give the density coherence like the winding of a rope. With out the winding, the rope would unravel, and without the spin, the high density would dissipate into lower density. Matter-Anti-matter Annihilation would be two densities of perfectly opposite spins coming into contact, which would cause the spins to cancel each other, resulting in the matter of both 'unraveling' into energy.

As such, you see, there really isn't negative energy, merely particles with opposite spin.

As for time travel, I consider it an impossibility. You could ,if you were a God or something like that, move everything back to the exact place it was in the past, but that wouldn't really be the past, now would it; It would be a future state indistinguishable from the past.

I don't know about portals, though.

>>19
Perhaps the friend's step-father just re-paints it a lot.

As for the Blue->Black->Blue, dark blue automotive paint can easily be mistaken for black.

a72a95 No.21

>>20
I think time travel is possible. As far as time goes there is only one time "now" and its from the beginning to the very end, in such a way that you can go around it and travel to any experience which has occured, having said that I'm sure there are multiple "time lines" that split off of one another for each "change"

08b9f2 No.24

>>21

Instead of calling it time traveling, another one could call it would be parallel reality shifting, which we do billions of times a second.

Everytime one shifts parallel realities, one is having a different perspective of the now.

I'm not entirely sure when someone say they are going to "save this timeline". Maybe it's like a timeline "filled" with certain parallel realities. When I think of a timeline, it is not a flat line.



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