No.7
Hello!
I want to learn Esperanto, can you provide me resources please?
Sorry for not posting in Esperanto.
No.8
It's okay. Lernu.net is the main website that people use to learn. It has a series of lessons and also a forum for beginners to chat. If you want immersion in a large Esperanto-speaking forum, I would suggest the Esperanto group on Facebook, which has ~13,000 members currently.
No.19
>>7go to lernu, i'm still learning myself and only have basic knowledge
No.25
If you're okay with ebooks, my first recommendation would be a free, public domain book called The Esperanto Teacher by Helen Fryer. You can download it from many sources, including directly from Amazon, which is great if you have a Kindle.
The English is slightly old-fashioned (it was written in the very early 1900's), but it doesn't pose much of a problem, and the material is presented in a non-threatening way, so you start off at a very simple level and build up slowly.
Come to think of it, this same book can also be listened to in audiobook form on LibraVox or YouTube, if you're more of an auditory learner like me.
No.49
>>25Normally I prefer reading, it's easier to concentrate, my mind wanders when I'm only listening. But for learning languages I think audio might be better?
Is this it?
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/8177 Looks perfect, thanks for suggesting!
>>8>>19Lernu seems to be a nice site! Thanks!
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No.57
Sorry I can't help more but heres a good book thats fun for beginners.
No.63
Memrise and Anki are also enormously helpful in learning the vocabulary. Ankiweb has a particularly good deck called Esperanto 101; as for Memrise, good courses are very easy to find.
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No.593
hey OP, i'm slowly making a grammar page for beginners here:
http://marbuljon.livejournal.com/5346.htmlbut it's written intended for english-natives, so some things might either need more clarification or need to be ignored for you. plus right now it's not even complete, but it's more helpful than a lot of other english pages already lol!
As for practise - there's a LOT you can read in it, like Moomins, Kafka, Sherlock Holmes, Buddhist teachings, physics textbooks… But not all of it is available online.
there are two free computer courses, which are kurso (software for mac, windows, linux) and lernu (online site), but i don’t like them, though i think lernu is good in some ways because it has a lot of forums you can read, and it has level exams. i just don't like how they teach.
ebooks:
http://cindymckee.com/p11/sample of a sherlock holmes bilingual text -
http://read-listen-study.tumblr.com/post/86413052588/there’s various books for free on Project Gutenburg, and the great thing is, esperanto from 1906 is going to almost identical to today’s, so there’s nothing to worry about with reading older works. they also had a smaller vocabulary then, so in some ways it's easier to understand. I started by reading "The Esperantist" which is a periodical that had part fiction, part nonfiction, and part English writings in it.
music and conversations (it works better to listen to it in itunes than on their site, and there’s more on spotify and more music sites than just this) -
http://muzaiko.info/a%C5%ADskultuZelda II esperanto game patch (need to use an english ROM, also I personally found the game too difficult to play on the computer) -
http://www.reddit.com/r/Esperanto/comments/25zso1/mi_%C4%9Doje_prezentas_zelda_ii_la_aventuro_de_link/In general, at least in English, many older textbooks are BETTER than newer ones (older as in around 100 years ago), since they had a completely different view of how to teach and what is important to know in a language. So don't shy away from older stuff if you see it.
as for dictionaries, i switch between an old one from around 100 years ago that i found online, and the one on lernu. then once i was able to understand more esperanto, i started going on vortaro.net which is an esperanto-only dictionary, but it clarifies the meanings of words, since lernu doesn't usually have very good notes on word usage.
No.719
Bumping for guests.
No.728
>>719a-arigatou gozaimasu anon-kun :3
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No.735
>>8Why does DuoLingo not have Esperanto yet? It'd take very little time to make I imagine
No.736
unue, pri lernu
>>8>>19>>49Lernu estas terura, mi malamas ĝin.
Due pri Duolingo
>>735Esperanto sur Duolingo kreos ĝin.
Mi amas Duolingo, Anki kaj Memrise.
No.737
>>736Ankaux laux mi, lernu teruras. Mi lernis esperanton cxefe per libroj. Mi skribas pri tio dulingve por lernantoj cxi fadene.
Lernu is awful if you ask me, as well. I learned esperanto mostly through books. Im writing about that bilingually for learners ITT.
Cxu vere esperanto finfine aperos en duolingo? Bonege. Kiam aperos?
No.738
>>737Multa homoj sxatas Lernu, sed mi ne sxatas gxin. Mi pensas ke libroj, videoj kaj babilo estas pli bona!
Mi certe pensas ke Esperanto aperos sur Duolingo, mi visis gxin sur Duolingo. Gxi aperos longa temp de nun.. Eble je "2014.2.5", trovas pri gxin cxe
http://incubator.duolingo.com/#courses/eo/en/status No.740
>>738>we've already completed all the lessons up to the first checkpoint including: Basics 1, Basics 2, Phrases, Accusative, Langs 1, Colors and Plurals. Past the checkpoint, we've also finished Animals and Possessives and have started working on Food, Countries, Clothing and Infinitive.>1 week ago GXI OKAZAS No.742
>>740Jes, mi tre felicxas!!!!!
No.869
Pri Duolingo…
(unu semajno antaux)
>Hi guys!
>Here's some great news for you…
>We just reached our 20% target. Why is that so important for us? Well… because it means that our team is ready to grow! We will have another contributor with us very soon.
>Thanks everyone very much for your support and we can't wait to hit our next target!
Do, kvar homoj nun laboras en la duolingoan kurson. Mojosaa
No.874
>>869Ho mia dio! Mi tre feliĉas!
No.914
Ĉu kurso de esperanto aperis ĉe Duolingo? =O
No.926
>>914Sxajne en 2015 aperos
No.955
How long do you guys think it'd take for someone to learn it?
Is it hard for an English speaker as compared to say German/French/Russian etc?
No.956
>>955Depends on a few factors…If you're adept at studying languages you can probably get to having basic conversations after a week or a month with a dictionary on hand. Otherwise, probably a month or a couple months if you don't study much. Typically while chatting with people I am surprised at how little time they studied for, I'll be talking to someone who seems fluent and they say they started learning four months ago.
week 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHPC5DN4eJAHere is a documentation of an English speaker learning Esperanto for 6 weeks, as their only second language:
By week 6 they are having conversations with people and playing word games
week 6 for comparison:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFi-lnoQVa4 No.957
>>956Oh, and as for difficulty for English speakers…It's not bad. Alot of the vocabulary is closer to latin languages, but the other main part of the vocab is from German and English (hundo = dog, birdo = bird). As far as the grammar it's very easy. The only hurdle I forsee is understanding the accusative. But if you can think about what is the difference between "he" and "him", or "she" and "her", you're on your way to getting it. And most people mess it up anyway. English speakers tend do better with it than people who speak Latin languages.
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No.994
>>993
For fun. To start speaking a new language much faster than you would a natural language.
And people also say that if it's your first time learning a new language, it will help you learn others. That's true of any second language but the advantage here is that Esperanto is relatively easy compared to most natural languages (because it has no irregularities and simple grammar), making you able to learn it in a few months, which gives you confidence in yourself to study harder languages.
No.996
>>994Also,
That's kinda like asking why you should learn Latin. No, you're probably not going to speak it with anyone unless you make a point to do so, but is it still useful? I think so. If you have any interest in other foreign languages it's a fantastic introduction to language learning. Much of it has Latin roots, or at least Romance languages. For example, many animals are referred to by esperanto variations of their genus name, which is in Latin. Swan in esperanto is "cigno", while the genus for swan is Cygnus. Aside from that, there are active esperanto forums, translated and original work and it's great mental exercise. And it's kinda fun.
No.1110
>>996Oh man, according to google translate many plants are called similarly to their Latin name as well. That's fun as hell, coming from a horticultural background and preferring to use the Latin names. I checked out Esperanto a while ago but didn't continue, maybe I should pick it up again just so I can talk about trees with foreign people.
No.1146
so I started learning Esperanto on lernu about a year ago and dropped it because of having a lot of shit to do, and am thinking about picking it up again, do you think it's worth waiting for the Duolingo course? I've never used Duolingo so I don't know what it's like
No.1147
>>1146I like Duolingo, and I find Lernu to be boring and outdated…So, I'd say it's worth it to wait. But there's no harm in starting to study things now, posting questions on forums and such
No.1149
Don't do it. Esperanto is the NWO language invented by kikes.
No.1152
>>1147apparently it comes out in Feburary so it shouldn't be too long, I suppose I'll get on with the other language i'm trying to learn until then
No.1154
>>1149>I am a retard and I need to express my retarded opinion No.1155
No.1157
>>1155Ĉu vi daŭre ne komprenas, ke verda teksto ne nepre signifas citaĵon?
No.1159
>>1157Mi pensas ke li nure ne sxatas gxin
No.1163
so i've started learning, it's going alright but can someone explain to me when to use -n on the end of words?
No.1164
>>1163Sure. Most simply, you put it on the end of the noun that is the "object" of the sentence (and the adjective that goes with it if there is one).
Mi vidis la arbo
n. = I saw the
tree.
Mi
n vidis la arbo. = The tree saw
me.
What is really happening, the tl;dr, is that the word that takes the -n is a noun in the
accusative case. English has a little bit of this, where a word will change from the nominative to the accusative case. The easiest example I can give is
he and
him. (Or, "I" [nominative] and "me" [accusative])
"Him" is the accusative form of "he". You don't say, "I talked to he." "I killed he." You use the accusative: I talked to
him. I killed
him.
li = he (nominative)
lin = him (accusative)
shi = she (nominative)
shin = her (accusative)
mi = I (nominative)
min = me (accusative)
Now, what English won't do is change a word like "tree" in this way. "tree" stays "tree" whether its role in the sentence is as the nominative or the accusative. There's no logical reason why not, English just doesn't do it. Esperanto does do it, however, as do languages like Russian and Latin.
"I saw the tree." Which form is tree here? Nominative, which in Esperanto would be "arbo", or accusative, "arbon"? Replace "tree" with "he" and you can find out.
Your options are: "I saw
he" (
nominative; no -n), or "I saw
him" (
accusative; -n). So, when we translate it, we would say "arbon", the accusative form of "arbo".
I saw
him.
Mi vidis li
n.
Mi vidis la arbo
n.
I saw the (accusative)
tree No.1165
>>1164After you understand that, there are a few little extra things to learn about -n to make your speech more refined, but above is the basic rule that you need to not be saying things like "Him killed me" and "I like he". The other stuff you could never know and still be understood just fine.
No.1166
>>1164thanks, lernu didn't explain it that well, I think i'm getting the hang of it now
No.1169
>>1164not the anon you were teaching, but this really helped clarify that.
No.2015
I've started learning it on duolingo, yay!
No.2016
>>8
Well, there also is a generally fine esperanto irc channel at freenode (#esperanto). It can be slow, but there often are people there willing to have conversations.
My generaly advice is to simply not use facebook. Because, you know, censorship, spying, that sort of thing. . . .
No.2028
There is an Esperanto minecraft server, which seems pretty friendly to beginners: http://www.esperanimeo.com/videoludo/esperanto-minecraft-servilo/
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No.2362
Neat thread. Always wanted to learn this thing. Does anyone have a book intended for native Spanish speakers? I feel that learning a language through another language which is not my native one is a bit of an ass.
No.2363
>>2362
hmm well Lernu is available in Spanish: http://es.lernu.net/
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No.2786
How would you say "I don't know that, sorry" in Esperanto?
No.2787
>>2786
Mi ne scias tiun, pardonpetas.