/f1/ - Formula One

The question remains, how processional will the race be?

For some reason I think one of the Saubers will fuck up early, but other than that It will be an easy merc win.

Let's settle this once and for all

A) silver stone

B) sil verstun

C) silvers towne

>>15072

B)

>>15072

>>15073

Fuck you, its A

how does Emilia say it?

>>15076

Does she even have the ability to speak?

>>15076

>Day 604: The search continues for a video of Emilia speaking English. I've found Jessica, Jennifer, even Nico-Mana but the Finnish white whale still alludes me. I must not lose hope.

Yeah I'm still looking might have a lead to an Austrian TV channel.

Emilia would probably say it qtly.

>>15077

she makes gibberish noises with her mouth that I think only horses understand

>>15077

>>2331

Anyone else dying of boredom waiting for this slightly-less boring race to happen?

>>15081

Apparently the Indy race was very good and the Formula E race was alright.

I've had work to do and got 9 hours of surveying to do tomorrow so I'm not going to be able to watch either until next weekend.

>Rosberg on form

>Hamilton giving less fucks than usual about F1, asking to be excused from testing so that he can gallivant around with American nigger rappers

>Valentino Rossi with a 10 point lead in MotoGP

>JPM leading Indy championship by 46 points

>Alain Prosts' Formula E team clinched the team championship

>Sebastien Buemi only 5 points behind Piquet Jr. with a great shot to be the reigning WEC AND Formula E champion at the same time

Motorsport is bretty good at the moment

Almost makes up for my girlfriend breaking up with me 15 minutes ago

>>15082

The only problem i have is that both are a spec series, which puts me in physical pain watching them. But given that f1 isnt much better, i might give them a shot

>>15083

Ouch what happened? Is this hamilfag?>>15083

>>15084

I heard it went 5 wide for the lead. I think I can excuse the spec for that.

>>15086

The indy race? Sonoma (i forget what they renamed it to) is a cool track so i might check it out.

>>15088

The Indy race was at Fontana

>>15089

Yeah just realized

>>15089

>>15088

NASCAR is at Sonoma this weekend.

>>15091

I believe they renamed the track something else.

>>15092

Or the event.

>>15092

Infineon

>>15094

>>15092

I just checked it is now Sonoma.

It was called Sears Point as well at some point

>>15095

Oh and in 1981 it was called Golden State International Raceway.

>>15096

Id almost be more willing to trying another race of the week again. I think those have a lot of potential to be fun if we get enough people in them. Another good american track that doesn't receive enough attention is Road America. What I would do to kill to see the F1 race moved their. Or Watkins Glen. Or Long Beach. Or Detroit.

what's the coldest F1 race ever?

because it's hot as balls that have been dipped in something hotter than balls here

>>15097

>Or Long Beach. Or Detroit.

You were going well until that point.

>>15098

Apparently the 1978 Canadian GP was held in October so probably that.

>>15099

Looked it up, 78' Canadian grand prix was 5 C (41 F), damn pretty cold.

>>15101

It was also the first BBC race.

>>15102

TedKravitzAbsolutelyDisgusting.JPG

>>15097

Tilkefication of the track that's selected. For "safety".

>>15087

>google hangouts from youtube malaysia

I've seen shitty stream setups, but this is amazingly ghetto.

>>15104

I don't directly blame Tilke for the boring tracks, because even if he designs the tracks, he does so complying to FIA and FOM's rules, all on a completely uninteresting bit of land somewhere in a shit country. Making money is probably the reason for all the chicanes or turns like Sepang T1: slow bits of tracks with a lot of spectator space and some on-track action. And then you take into account the flat terrain located in the middle of nowhere and it become impossible to make an interesting track.

qualifying for last race of the season in 10 minutes

race in 4 hours 10 minutes

http://fiaformulae.com/en/live-streaming.aspx

>>15113

>worldwide exclusive broadcasting rights for Sky

>where did all the fans go

race starting

http://fiaformulae.com/en/live-streaming.aspx

>>15082

>IRL race

>very good

>ever

>>15106

The only problem with that logic is that tilke cant make a good track even without those restrictions. He has made club racing circuits that range from uninspired to really shitty.

>>15086

Artificially close racing plays out like shit though. sure it will be close, but it's a game of who holds the gas pedal down longer, especially when they do ovals.

>watching formula e stream

where are they even supposed to overtake on this track? it's worse than caesars palace.

>>15118

mostly through the chicanes by braking late and risking crashes

>>15119

that's terrible.

>fucking Senna helping the cunt Piquet

I love how these terrible sounding cars are on grooved tires as if there's a risk of them going fast.

>>15122

i think they're grooved because they use the same tyres in dry and wet conditions

Did piquet win or whatever?

>>15124

Yup.

Senna held back Buemi a la Petrov vs Alonso in 2010. Buemi lost the championship by 1 point and you have Senna to blame for it. Fucking faggot

>>15125

What was up with the part where piquet slowed down and all the cars passed him? Also nobody actually likes buemi so no loss there.

>checking the plebbit post on Nico's birthday to see the response to "BLACK DON'T CRACK"

>see this guys' comments

GOLD

http://www.reddit.com/user/xelini

>>15127

Wow, he's buttblasted

>>15117

Spec racing is pretty much universally garbage.

>>15113

Stroll's pushing for his son (shit driver) to get into f1 by way of daddy's money. Dumb as this is, I would rather stroll (who seems to understand f1) get it versus sky, or the sand niggers

http://www.formula1.com/content/fom-website/en/latest/interviews/2015/6/in-conversation--bernie-ecclestone-and-max-verstappen.html

Max Verstappen: I am living my dream! I am only 17 and can already practice my dream job: I am racing in Formula One! Unbelievable!

BE: You deserve it. You are a racer!

(Ecclestone pats the youngster on the back. Verstappen blushes.)

>Verstappen blushes

>>15127

Really I saw this and was impressed by his Hamil-vision.

>>15131

Only time Jos touched him with his hand was when he hit him so he's not used to signs of affection

>>15127

>Rosberg is the darling of the stewards. Last year they had a chance to penalize him for Monaco, Canada and Spa but they didn't do anything because they saw something in his eyes that tells you the truth lol.

>We all know that if Hamilton makes something, they penalize him immediately without even thinking because they just can't stand him.

This guy is going to start spouting racism very soon

>>15134

I'm deadly curious how people like him can function in real life. How can someone exhaust that much vitriol on the internet about a driver in a dying series?

>>15133

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks jos is an abuser.

>>15135

I swear that the worse f1 or comparable series gets, the more insanely angry spergs it attracts. We've already seen it in indycar.

>>15136

I think you're on to something. The indycar tards get so angry if you so much as call it the IRL and will go on whole diatribes just like a /pol/ cretin about how Tony George did nothing wrong.

>formula e

>NEXT: PRE-SEASON TESTING

>42 days, 14 hours, 46 minutes, 29 seconds

Wait what?

>>15138

2014-2015 season ended

2015-2016 will probably start in september like last year

teams are allowed to develop their own powertrain now, therefore testing

If I were loaded I would buy a seat in some shitty gentleman driver series like Ferrari challenge, and drop someone good in the car to embarrass those pay driver assholes.

http://www.crash.net/indycar/news/220569/1/questions-and-controversies-follow-fontana-thriller.html

">I lost my best friend in exactly this way in 2011," he added, referring to the fatal crash that claimed Wheldon's life. "If there were 100,000 fans we might want to race that way. To do this in front of 5,000 people is stupid.

I didn't know it was a sliding scale

>>15141

>">

also

BTCC Croft

race 1:

25. Nicolas Hamilton AmD Tuning.com Audi S3 +1 lap

race 2:

25. Nicolas Hamilton AmD Tuning.com Audi S3 +1 minute 03.448 seconds

race 3:

22. Nicolas Hamilton AmD Tuning.com Audi S3 +1 minute 02.070 seconds

>>15142

Hey that's an improvement!!!!!

To be fair he has cerebral palsy I'm more impressed he is capable of racing more than anything else.

He shouldn't really be in the BTCC series but it's like anyone actually cares about the series.

>>15141

I love the idea that they know indycar sucks so badly that they don't want to risk their lives.

Indycar is tons of shit drivers in spec cars on often short tracks, no shit there are going to be pileups as there's very little grid spread.

>>15142

Who dropped out to make him gain places? Also how much sponsorship does the tard bring that justifies him being in the car?

>>15142

>>15143

Im not gonna lie he seems like a much more humble person than lewis and im actually rooting for him. Kill me :P

>>15146

it's not really hard to be more humble than lewis

>>15149

Those are all disgusting and slovenly women, I wouldn't fuck them with a ten foot pole.

>>15141

>I didn't know it was a sliding scale

Reminds me of Fight Club

>Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

Also:

>"It was pack racing. It was Las Vegas again. I'm just glad no one's hurt. Exciting as it is, it's insane," he said. "We don't need another Vegas incident. It's just a matter of time."

>"It was a crazy race and I'm just glad I'm okay," concurred veteran racer Tony Kanaan after finishing second. "People who criticise [the racing in IndyCar] should try this: pack racing at 215mph. There definitely is a fine line between pack racing and close racing. People have to understand how stressful it is for us. "

TOPKEK.

15 years ago when I used to follow ChampCar, one of the biggest criticisms of the IRL was that is was pack racing, which is too risky to do in open cockpit, open wheel cars. 15 years later and not a damn thing has changed.

>>15155

It was an alright episode.

Bit eerie with the empty hanger and just James, Richard and a stuffed elephant in it.

>>15153

not all the drivers are criticizing it because if you're delusional enough to race in the IRL, you're delusional enough to defend it.

>>15157

I don't think it is delusion more desperation to just race in something.

Though looking at which drivers were defending the pack racing it was Ed Carpenter. When you are the stepson of Tony George you will tow any company line.

>>15158

>I don't think it is delusion more desperation to just race in something.

For our purposes, that's the same thing

>Though looking at which drivers were defending the pack racing it was Ed Carpenter.

I was so ready to blurt out that he's the sonny boy of the man who fucked up american openwheel racing but you're smart and came to the same conclusion.

>>15159

his tweet is better

>I love close @IndyCar racing. Hate to see drivers bad mouthing a series. If you want to race, race. If not, retire.

>>15160

AHAHAHA that's rich. what an asslicker.

>>15161

Especially considering he doesn't do the road courses and gets another person to fill in.

One of those drivers being Mike Conway who felt unsafe on ovals and said he would no longer race on them.

>>15162

I remember Scott Speed saying that he wouldn't do ovals, and that was career suicide.

Does Ed Carpenter suck on road courses so he doesn't do them? I have a hard time believing that as he's gotten pole at indy twice (i don't understand how he threw it away). Maybe daddy fucks with the track's timing equipment.

>>15163

>Does Ed Carpenter suck on road courses so he doesn't do them?

Yes. His highest road course finish is 10th at Detroit in 2007.

This year Lucca Filipe drives his car for the road races and Ed does the few oval races.

Lucca finished 2nd in the last race at Toronto.

>>15164

Filippi is another victim of the italians in formula 1 curse. I don't know that he's totally a revelation, but second place for an oval team isn't shitty at all.

>>15070

>Nico won't even give her a sympathy fuck

What an asshole.

>>15166

her crying scares me.

>>15167

It arouses me. But I'm in to that kinda thing.

>>15166

m8 she has completely lost it from only being in his mere presence and him signing a hat.

She would probably become a quivering mass of love juice if he was just to lean over, gave her a hug and whispered in her ear "I love you"

>>15165

I'm not sure if CFH racing counts as an oval team. The other car has Josef Newgarden in it and he has won two road races for them this year (It was a 1-2 for them at Toronto).

The fact that Ed is co-owner in the team is the extra funny part.

>>15168

It's more that her crying is so forceful and asian that's alien to me.

>>15171

You don't watch a lot of JAV, do you?

>>15172

you got me. Should I be?

>>15173

Not exclusively, but it should be part of your consumption.

Some of it is hilarious.

>>15174

Any recommendations?

>>15175

Also age wise Nico Mana is 13.5 in those pictures. 14.5 in the crying video.

And she turned 19 this year.

>>15176

Unfortunately my internet is fucked atm, so searching is so slow as to be useless.

What I would try to find though, was an old one where they gave 2 girls enema's then had them wrestle. First one to spray was the loser. The punishment for losing was the winner spraying their enema on the losers face.

It was a great family-friendly romp.

>>15178

Which reminds me of another one.

>grill is strapped to a chair

>give her an enema of milk

>give her an enema of chocolate topping

>put a little tap in her ass

>then poor a glass of chocolate milk

>which she drinks

>>15178

>>15179

>>15180

Lol wtf australia? That's not even sexual anymore.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119740

Formula 1 criticism has to stop, says Mercedes' Toto Wolff

>d-d-dont complain guys, you're hurting our marketing

>>15172

>>15171

Her crying does sound forceful and asian. It reminds me of that Jean Alesi/JAV webm.

People thought tony george was a retard back in the day as well. Listen to him extol the virtues of his shit series.

>>15184

>Are the team keeping Ham away from tests/simulator work as long as he's ahead of Rosberg, or is it just that he doesn't need it?

Maybe they gave him a little nudge to not do the test but honestly I could see him asking not to do it so he can be with his rapper friends.

>>15188

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_George

>The IRL was founded in 1994 and began racing in 1996 claiming to offer a cost-effective, all-oval alternative to the PPG CART Indycar World Series. The basic beliefs behind the creation of the series were:

>Cost controlled racing

>Driver Safety

>All-oval schedule

>Give a better opportunity for American drivers to succeed in motorsports and compete at the Indianapolis 500, particularly USAC drivers whose numerical representation at the 500 had dwindled.

>However, as the series evolved, it moved away from these principles, with more foreign drivers, increased costs and, eventually, racing on road courses and street circuits.

Now with the pack racing on short ovals with spec cars, even the aim of safety has been failed. GJ Tony.

>attempt to look up Indycar financial records in hope that I might see it fail

>realize that Hulman and company is a privately owned company and as such doesnt need to publish information for investors

>>15189

>even the aim of safety has been failed

Spectacularly so.

>>15194

Yes

>>15194

I watched IRL news broadcasts and drank whenever Tony George said something retarded. I woke up hungover.

>>15139

>teams are allowed to develop their own powertrain now, therefore testing

Oh yeah. Are they allowed to build their own chassis too, because that would be sexy. The G1 mice didn't really turn me on.

>>15197

Next year

>>15197

>>15198

Inb4 the FIA plans to make F1 progressively shittier by way of overregulation so that people watch Formula e.

>>15198

>>15197

Only if you count rear suspension development as chassis development.

The Dallara tub and wings are going to remain for a while as they don't want the teams doing any form aero development.

>>15200

gay

http://espn.go.com/f1/story/_/id/13166610/fernando-alonso-not-ruling-future-indy-500-drive

>Fernando Alonso believes a future drive at the Indy 500 would be "attractive for any driver" because of its status as one of the greatest races in motorsport.

>help, I'm married to honda but want to gtfo of mclaren

>>15202

My prediction: He'll be a beast on the road courses but lose out on ovals.

>>15202

Jenson ruled out Indy on safety but he is interested in Le Mans.

Also he might instead become a proper triathlete.

>>15203

He would only be doing the 500

>>15204

I think one of the top teams could talk him to doing a full season or two with them.

>>15204

Last I heard Jenson mooted the idea of the triathlete career change.

>>15205

I could see a penske, andretti, or ganassi getting him to do a whole season or more than just the 500, but I do think it's more likely that he would just do the 500 (as other formula 1 drivers have done).

It is worth noting that the 500 and monaco are on the same day, so that would make doing them both impossible.

Lotus used to skip monaco to win the 500 and still take the f1 championship, but that's not really feasible anymore.

In 1993 and 1994 Nelson Piquet got a one race drive for the Indy 500 (granted with menard, not quite the best team) because he hadn't been allowed to do much outside of f1 when he was competing.

People say the real reason he did it was so he could show up at Indy, outqualify, and beat Mansell in his own backyard.

Mansell had been competing in CART for 1993 and 1994 and failed to win at Indy both times.

I think it would have been fucking hilarious if he did, but he crashed in qualifying in 1993 after setting very competitive times, and wasn't competitive in 1994.

>>15206

The most plausible way of that happening would be that one of the teams lends their best driver for a season or two in the McLaren to drive with K-Mag so there's plenty of opportunity promote each other's efforts in both serieses for new markets.

>>15207

I fucked up, 1992 and 1993 not 1993 and 1994

>>15206

He mooted the idea of doing the Olympics in 2016 realising that although he is good he ain't as good as the Brownlee brothers.

He could very well be a semi-pro triathlete while do commentary for the BBC

>>15208

This kind of happened already. Not in an official capacity. Nigel Mansell went to Newman-Haas in CART for 1993 and 1994 after winning the f1 championship for Williams. At the same time, Michael Andretti went to Mclaren for 1993 vacating his seat at Newman-Haas alongside his father Mario.

In a shitty turn of events for Michael, the Mclaren that year sucked balls, had a customer engine, and he was treated like a second class citizen relative to Ayrton Senna and Mika Hakkinen, meanwhile Michael's former drive at Newman-Haas was the best that year and the year after.

barrichello sucked balls in indy so there is that element of reputation risk

>>15212

didn't he get rookie of the year though? explain as I haven't watched indy since 1995 (like most of the world).

>>15214

>because i don't have 8chan/f1/ on my bookmark bar

maybe you should do that ;P

>>15214

Mexibro it filled up and so we had to make a new thread.

We couldn't post anything saying new thread.

Did you not try posting in those 2 days?

>>15213

he had a difficult time with everything. bumpy street courses, ovals, all of it. they even had to give him noob rookie status partway into the season so he'd get more test time. idk about roty I can't remember who else was rookie then

>>15217

Rubens wasn't counted as a rookie and Pagenaud won ROTY

>>15218

barrichello was 2012 rookie of the year.

>>15219

Fucking Wikipedia lying to me again

http://www.crash.net/indycar/news/178438/1/barrichello-handed-extra-test-time-in-2012.html

>>15215

my bar is already full, way too full.

>>15216

well you see… no.

>>15220

>>15219

I realised it now.

Rubens won the Indy 500 rookie of the year award & Pagenaud was the season rookie of the year or at least the highest rookie after he finished 5th in the championship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Indianapolis_500

>rookie of the year Rubens Barrichello

>Pace car driver Guy Fieri

Holy shit.

>>15224

If he ever does f1, his merc should have a paint job made to look like flames.

>>15226

>If he ever does [anything], his [brains should be dashed across the ground with a california framing hammer].

ftfy

>>15226

his helmet should have frosted tips

>>15227

yeah but that wouldn't be any fun

Look Williams put a kid who doesn't know how to drive in Thierry Boutsen's car.

Fuck forgot to embed

>>15233

I was half expecting to see massa get out of that car.

>>15234

Nope, another shit, short driver, this time not Brazilian. Massa did drive the car earlier.

http://en.f1i.com/news/17154-my-career-is-more-important-than-girls-verstappen.html

>Max Verstappen says he will not let himself get distracted by the glamour surrounding F1 in order to ensure he has a successful career.

>The 17-year-old has impressed in his rookie season so far, but also came in for criticism following an incident with Romain Grosjean in Monaco. Taking part in a joint interview with Bernie Ecclestone on the official Formula One website, Verstappen says he is determined to make sure his F1 career is a long one.

>Asked if he'd rather go for dinner with Ecclestone than a gorgeous woman, Verstappen replied: "One hundred percent.

Confirmed for elderlovefag

>"You cannot learn much from the latter that has value in F1 - but you can learn a lot from Bernie. He has built this sport and is one of the most successful businessmen in the world. My career is more important than girls. You have only one chance here - and I am going to take it!"

>And Verstappen told Ecclestone he feels F1 is too technical and drivers should have less information when in the car.

>"Even for us young drivers the amount of technical stuff is too much. I would say that right now only 20 percent is occupied with racing, and the vast majority of the remaining 80 percent with watching over the technical stuff.

>"Do you know what I do to escape that? I tell my engineers that they should not overload me with information. We are getting way too much info in the cockpit. Sometimes I switch off the display in my car! I want to rely on my gut feeling. Isn’t that what made great race drivers in the end?"

>>15239

>Sometimes I switch off the display in my car! I want to rely on my gut feeling.

You are a Verstappen. Your gut feeling is shit.

Also I guess this does confirm that Max and Sabre split

>>15240

I would have preferred Giedo to this clown, at least he was likable.

>>15241

He was pay driving through his father in law but the trials with Sauber were fucking hilarious.

All the media coverage made it ridiculously hyped.

>>15242

he's not actually that bad though. he won Formula renault 3.5 in his second year with 3 fastest laps, 2 poles, and 2 dns.

>>15243

4 wins 8 podiums really not shabby

>>15242

He did well in the later part of 2013 for caterham, outqualifying pic a few times which is definitely something seeing as pic was promoted from marussia for his performance versus glock

>>15243

>>15245

Definitely everyone is paying for their drive these days and he had both skill and a half decent source of money.

I'd rather have what Boekhoorn money entering the sport than Venezuelan oil money.

And as I said he provided the highlight of this season. If only it could have ended with Monisha in jail.

Also the FIA & F3 are thinking of making it mandatory to do F4 (or similar level) before you reach Euro F3 or higher.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/119677

So basically no Verstappen jumping from karts straight up.

>>15246

#GiedoGate was a highlight of my life. If only he got to imprison monisha and claim nasr's car with the fucking Banco do Brazil sponsorship.

>>15247

That's retarded. F3 is plenty entry level. I could probably be competitive on the national level in f3 and that is not self aggrandizement so much as it is a characterization of the shitshow that is f3 national championships.

>>15248

I believe he had the opportunity to do both, but decided not to in order to save face.

>#GiedoGate was a highlight of my life. If only he got to imprison monisha and claim nasr's car with the fucking Banco do Brazil sponsorship.

>>15248

>I could probably be competitive on the national level in f3 and that is not self aggrandizement so much as it is a characterization of the shitshow that is f3 national championships.

That is the problem. There is only 4 national F3 series left. And I think only Japan and Brazil run to the current F3 regulations. The FIA went and killed them all with restrictions because they want to encourage drivers to go from F4 to Euro F3 for some reason.

>>15250

I think he realised that if he won he would be fucking up Nasr and Ericsson who hadn't done anything wrong. They weren't part of the situation it was Sauber he was after.

>>15250

I think its pretty clear that these superlicense rules dont exist to make sure that only the best drivers get to f1, but rather to make sure drivers spend as much time paying entry fees for fia series as possible.

Also

>that shop

>>15251

And under the point system National F3 gives you exact same points as F4 but Euro F3 gives 4 times as much.

That makes no sense whatsoever.

>>15251

>Nasr and Ericsson who hadn't done anything wrong.

Y'know, other than buying a drive that had a good 3 other drivers legally entitled to it.

Also, there was a 17 mil payout, clearly Bernie or Todt paid that and put the fear of god into him

>>15254

>Y'know, other than buying a drive that had a good 3 other drivers legally entitled to it.

That they didn't know were already signed.

The drivers, the engineers, the pit crew & nearly all the staff bar Monisha did nothing wrong. They weren't part of the process of signing drivers.

To fuck the whole team up and have the crew going home to their wives & children and explain to them why they have to sell the house and eat off the floor would have been utterly dickish.

He couldn't get only Monisha fucked so just settled for a load of money and left.

>>15256

As if Alonso's ego wasn't big enough. Last photo is great.

>>15256

>what will he put inside it?

His original hair

>>15257

>>15258

>>15259

>The Lewis Hamilton Track for Kids Who Can't Drive Good

>featuring a ball pit with an authentic beached MP4-22

>targeted radio interference so your race engineer can't talk to you through the corners

>special "un-tweetable" telemetry

>>15260

>Entry comes with a free rap CD because they can't get rid of the fucking things

>>15262

>Featuring his number one Hit : "Nico HIt Me.. WIth that Fat Beat!"

>>15263

you can hold end of season pizza parties for kids soccer teams there

but he keeps the trophies

>fucking about through youtube avoiding umpteen sponsored posts and political sjw shit

>find this

>be in awe

Random fact: so many teams used Cosworth DFVs back in the day that there was a whole aftermarket of performance parts for it and different engine suppliers sold their own flavors of DFVs.

>>15266

>If Hamilton gets another pole this coming weekend he will surpass Vettel. If he sets another fastest lap he will equal Vettel. Currently he is ahead on podiums (78 vs 71) and behind on wins (40 vs 37).

Vettel - 147 starts

Hamilton - 156 starts

>>15267

not to mention vettel drove for toro rosso for 2 years and sauber for 1 race and those teams were at best upper midfield when he drove for them, while hamilton started at mclaren in a championship contending year.

>>15266

Appreciate your change of heart, the hamilfaggery was getting tired.

>>15265

That's great and all, but the matra v12 is bar none the best sounding f1 motor. The howl of the resonating titanium exhaust is intoxicating.

>>15271

Jenson's tacky ass tribal tats hurt it to me, but then again raikkonen and alonso have way tackier tats.

>>15272

>That random sleeve KMag got after they picked Jenson last year

I was not expecting that.

>>15273

oh yeah that's something that belongs on an edgelord chav

>>15266

Bernie is almost certainly paying people to hang with Hamilton. Think about it, who knows/gives a fuck about him outside of f1?

>>15269

Remember when exotic materials weren't banned in f1? Remember when people had different methods of making a fast car? Those were the days.

Terrible as it is, this engine actually has a hearty idle and I like it (until it throws a rod)

>>15277

That thing looks fucking halarious. Its the living specimen of shitty reductionist logic, but it doesn't sound bad.

Someone earlier had mentioned that Guy Frieri drove the Pace Car for the INDY 500 2012.

>>15279

to be honest, having ballast at all is a clear fucking red flag that having a minimum weight at all is retarded.

But yeah, the uranium debacle was entertaining.

Mosley in his infinite wisdom thought that mandating v10s, 4 valves per cylinder, and banning random metals from use in engines thought that would cut costs. Mosley is a retard.

>>15280

What a strange celebrity endorsement.

>>15283

>>15284

Most mad F1 engine design I've heard was that in the 60's Honda experimented with a X-32 engine.

That would have been truly insane.

>>15285

when f1 returned to 3 liters after the embarrassment that was the 1.6 liter adventure, (funny how history repeats itself and people don't learn from it) Coventry Climax could not enlarge their v8 sufficiently to have it be competitive.

While the customer british teams waited for a 3 liter unit they either used an undersize climax motor, or a few other options.

BRM took its 1.5 liter flat 8 and strapped it on another of the same and said "Ta DA! 3 liter motor" to predictable results.

It was more powerful than the hackjob brabham repco units, but had a tendency to puke its guts out and was heavy, as two motors from separate castings glued together are wont to be. Jim Clark scored the engine's only win and then the Cosworth DFV arrived.

I always thought the ford hb series engines were cool. An engine that is fundamentally a DFV variant (in the 90s no less) that's more oversquare with modern valvetrain and 75 degree bank angle. It is also the last ford championship winning engine.

>>15286

> and the cheeky hiding of the alternator between the banks is interesting

CoG though…

>>15290

i doubt anyone ever expected Shitsinger to be decent

>>15291

Fair point. But it just shows what kind of total shameless whore Louis hangs out with.

>>15289

The alternator is pretty light (especially since f1 car electrical systems dont even have starters) and the sump and clutch assembly are pretty low, I doubt it makes quite as much a difference in CoG as it does in packaging.

I just love when there's a power take off from the camshaft (lotus used one cambank to run their active suspension) strikes me as funny that they just pull it off where its convenient.

>>15290

Ahahahah what even is the context of that image?

>>15290

What a skank

I didn't even read the last bit of this thread cause am drunk but listen to thou….

>F1 last laps as exciting as motogp when?

Just look at this shit…

>Rossi passes Marquez casually

>Marquez pissed off, can't take the heat, tries too hard, topkek

>Rossi keeps the line and bumps him out of the competition

>inb4 motogp fags say Rossi was at fault

>>15298

>F1 last laps as exciting as motogp when?

1981 spanish gp at jarama

also 1982 Austria

also 1967 italy

also 1979 french gp at dijon prenois

also 1986 spanish gp at jerez

also 1985 san marino gp

also 1982 monaco gp

also 1986 australian gp

also 1977 monaco gp

also 1992 monaco gp

also 1994 australian gp

also 1997 european gp at jerez

also 1997 hungarian gp

also 1994 italian gp

..and that's just off the top of my head.

but to answer your question "F1 last laps as exciting as motogp when?" the answer is "not recently"

>>15299

In a sort of perverse way, I enjoyed the 2014 us gp last laps, if only to see Maldonado tangle with the toro rossos.

>>15299

yeah, don't get me wrong, I love F1 but I just think it is dying.

I hope the '17 thing will make a change, I really do think it will and I hope g04774s joins Ferrari during that time and goats it the fuck up, if you know what I mean.

>>15301

I mean its really not hard to fix. Go back to 3 liters formula, ditch the hybrid shit, ditch minimum weight, ban re matching gearboxes, go back to 2 meter wide cars and original tire size, and let there be multiple suppliers of everything.

Its so incredibly obvious, but only Niki Lauda and Jenson button have said anything resembling that.

>>15303

that image cracks me up for some reason

>>15304

Do they actually think that New Jersey is going to happen?

also are those in any particular order?

>>15306

alphabetical, kinda, it's an old screenshot

and for jersey, Bernie still wants it apparently

http://www.foxsports.com/motor/story/new-jersey-f1-america-race-bernie-ecclestone-still-looking-061015

>>15307

Bernie has made no secret of his intention to make 3 races in the U.S. Honestly, we used to have two each year, but at better tracks than we have now. Long Beach and Watkins Glen are F1s venues in the U.S. anything else is a mistake. Indianapolis was a stupid thing that Tony George wanted, Riverside doesn't exist anymore, Sebring is too bumpy, Road America is too remote, Laguna Seca is too short, Barber Motorsports park is in the middle of fucking nowhere, Detroit kind of makes sense to have a circuit and the street course they ran in the 80s (not belle isle, it's different) wasn't shitty but we have enough street circuits.

>>15310

Fuck i'm a retard. Forgot Dallas. Dallas wasn't that bad. F1 doesn't need more street circuits.

>>15310

The meadowlands circuit was just off the jersey turnpike and they held CART races there in an effort to have a link with the historic vanderbuilt cup, and have a history for CART that didnt involve Indy. Honestly the location has the potential to draw insane crowds from all over the tri state area.

Pascal Couasnon:

>"We can create pitstops with some other ideas but what Michelin would like to deliver first is a tyre where the driver has fun and is tired at the end of the race.

absent refueling what are these "other ideas"

>>15313

>absent refueling what are these "other ideas"

Driver toilet breaks

This whole obsession with low profile tires is actually the most pointless and retarded thing i've seen in a long while. It's retarded and backwards thinking on road cars too.

>>15314

Thunderhill is in the middle of nowhere and Bernie has his eyes on long beach anyway.

>>15315

>clutch that disintegrates over several laps

>alarm clock that shorts the batteries until reset

>every lap they have to drive under a big container of sand and have sand dumped into a trailer which they will tow behind

CART actually drew huge crowds (you can see in this video) for the meadowlands race, and the track actually has a lot of lines through the corners (almost oval like in that it is wide and has a lot of grippy surface).

>>15316

as long as it improves the show /s

each minute f1 becomes more like WWE

>>15317

Holy shit Bruce Jenner at 5:45

>>15319

>Senna dies at Imola, again

This guy could be a big success in the IRL

>>15319

>forgotten tilke'd track asks for gimmicky shit race series that is being prostituted by media

It makes tons of sense.

>>15321

That's next years indy winner right there.

>>15319

>look on plebbit because I'm a glutton for punishment

>people are downvoting naysayers and circlejerking over this

>looks fun to drive says one

Are they just defacto contrarians? Do they just look at shit and eagerly salivate waiting to eat it?

>>15321

>>15322

>IndyCar are actually in talks with Road America to host a round in 2016

HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>15328

I literally cant wait to see the IRL drivers fuck up. Road America has the largest constant radius corner on a race track. When I got my SCCA license, they couldn't stop telling us about the retards that entered wrong, got on throttle too early, or set up the car improperly, or otherwise fucked up and ended up in the trees.

>>15328

and here I thought they had signed the deal to do it a year ago. GJ IRL, I hope you collapse and are sold to Kevin Kalkhoven or another knowledgeable CART team owner.

Let me share with you the world's most incredible motorsports cringepost, courtesy of plebbit.com/r/indycar/

http://www.reddit.com/r/INDYCAR/comments/3bna52/if_you_are_a_indycar_fan_you_will_do_this/

>TLDR: Stop turning off potential new fans by being so negative and start welcoming new ones by focusing on the positives of Indycar. Only then will the sport grow, solving most of its negative issues in the process.

>I watched the Fontana race on TV and it was one of the most exciting races I have ever seen. I can't remember the last time I was physically on the edge of my seat lap after lap. People have been saying for a while Indycar racing is great and that race proved it. Despite what you think about "pack racing" or if you agree with Carpenter or Power, it was a great race. (I'll just forget the fact that if Briscoe's nose didn't catch that car would've landed upside down, probably killing him or at least seriously injuring him.)

>Unfortunately, that's not what people are talking about. All people talk about when it comes to Indycar it seems like is the negative side. I know F1 is having its share of this and even NASCAR, but Indycar is on a whole different level. And for anyone who's kept up with the sport over the last 20 years, there is plenty of reasons for the negativity. But watching 3-5K people watch one of the best races I have ever seen was just plain sad and really put the writing on the wall unless there is a major change. But, there is hope and that hope lies with all of us! We need to stop highlighting all the negatives and start talking about the positives of the sport. I'm not saying we should live in some fantasy land where everything is fine and nothing is wrong. We just need to focus on more of the positives of Indycar. There is enough negativity in the world already!!

>I was listening to 1070 (local Indy station) and they were discussing the Fontana race and all the controversy. One of the show's hosts (I forget the name) made a really solid point. He said that regardless of what you know about Indycar, the hardcore fans, people like us, are very unlikely to leave despite what Indycar does. That 200,000-300,000 hardcore fan base will pretty much be there. But for the sport to survive we need new fans, the casual fans. People who don't necessarily understand Indycar, but are interested in the sport because of good racing. People who don't bring all the baggage of the last 20 years of Indycar. There are 360 million people in the country, surely we can at least find 1 million people who are excited about good racing!

>>15331

>And the point he made was that if a casual fan is interested in Indycar and check out the forums, all they will see is all the negativity. (I respect the hell out of you Robin Miller, but this includes you too!) Everyone complaining about how things used to be, about areokits, pack racing, Mark Miles, Randy Bernard, the schedule (yes it is terrible) etc. etc. Who wants to be involved in a a sport like that? If I was a casual fan and wanted to interact with other Indycar fans and only read about the negativity, I sure as hell wouldn't want to be a fan anymore. I know that there are a lot of things Indycar could do differently, that I would do differently, to attract new fans, but if you really love Indy car you will stop complaining and just start enjoying the sport for what it is. Just enjoy the great racing. Talk about more positive things (American driver winning Fontana!). Talk about what's great about the sport and not everything that's wrong with it.

>I agree there is definitely a place for criticism, and for the most part, this reddit page does a pretty good job of keeping things positive. But when I check out racer.com and the comments on Indycar, nearly all of it is negative. It's just really disheartening and it gets old. I feel like some fans will just never be satisfied unless it's the "good old days". I agree that there were some great things about the "good old days", like more open rules, more USAC drivers, etc. But some things weren't so great (drivers' deaths, only a few cars on the lead lap at the end of a race).

>But the "good old days" are gone and we have to accept that. It is a different era now and if we want to see Indycar grow with new fans we need to help foster them into the sport and keep things more positive rather than just talk about how things used to be and how everything sucks now. This is a social media world now, so what you see on that is how you are perceived, regardless of actual reality for better or worse. So to the casual fan viewing Indycar through forums and message boards the sport doesn't look so good.

>So I challenge each and everyone of US on r/INDYCAR to stop complaining and start enjoying Indycar for what it is!!! No more negative postings and rants. If someone has a negative post reply that they are hurting the sport and comment how they could say something positive instead. Maybe even downvvote it (too harsh?). Sure criticism is good, but let's talk about what we can do in the future and not about how things were or how things suck so much now. Let's make our sport look welcoming to new fans rather than like a cagey old cornered street cat ready to swipe at anything that comes close.

>I am 27 years old and a lifetime resident of Indy. My dad grew up on the Westside of Indy in Haughville, just outside the track. This is a sport that is in my blood from birth, just as it is for many of you. I want to see it succeed on into the future. I have some friends that are hardcore fans like me, but the majority are hardly aware Indycar exists outside of the Indy 500. And for people from Indy, that's just sad. Without more fans in my age group and younger, this sport will die in the next 10-20 years. Perhaps sooner. Indycar lost a generation of fans with the open wheel split and unless we can show how exciting racing is to my generation and the next one, not just Indycar, but racing itself may become a thing of the past.

>Indycar can do everything right, but at the end of the day for it to survive it needs to grow more fans and that starts with us. We can be the ground game. We can start the grass roots campaign. It doesn't take a whole lot. Just enjoy Indycar for what it is, tell your friends about the races, post upcoming races on your facebook page. Tweet about them. Invite your friends over to watch the race. If they don't have TV (like me) find a live stream and send them the link. I know that no matter what some people will never be interested in racing. But there are some who will be, they just need a little encouragement. Just get the message out there! Every fan counts!

>If the sport grows, it will be on a better channel, it will bring in more sponsorship, so there can be more money to spend on innovation, more teams and drivers will come, and it will snowball from there. Just about every issue with Indycar can be fixed if the sport's fan base can be increased. And that starts with all of US!

Remember: the shittier a series gets, the more insane, delusional and masochistic the fans get

TLDR: Indycar sucks balls thanks to Tony George, people are self-flagellating in the hopes that if they think it is better, it is better.

THIS IS A CAUTIONARY TALE FOR F1, WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN THIS ON PLEBBIT

>>15331

>>15332

>I watched the Fontana race on TV and it was one of the most exciting races I have ever seen. I can't remember the last time I was physically on the edge of my seat lap after lap

>excited about good racing!

"This is good racing, they could have a 5 car crash at any moment!"

I guarantee he posts on TrackForum. This is textbook for their delusion.

>>15333

The best part is that they LITERALLY CANNOT stop mentioning Track Forum as their antithesis. They talk all day and all night about how track forum is negative while they are positive. Look at this shit:

>The only place I've ever seen constant negativity is on TF. Eventually I grew tired of hearing how everything was better in 1940 and came over here, this place has been a breath of fresh air, but I do see where you're coming from for sure. I'm definitely enjoying IndyCar in its current state, and coming from the Champ Car side of the fence and it took me a long time to give IndyCar a shot. I've accepted that this is what American open wheel racing is now and have decided to make the most of it and I'm glad that I have. I've even gotten some friends and coworkers into it as well. Once everyone stops trying to go back in time to grab what is no longer there, we can focus on moving forward collectively.

>I second that wholly. TF sucks, and this sub has been a massive dose of positivity. The sooner people accept American open wheel racing for what it is, the better.

>>15334

So reading between the lines, he left TF because they weren't as deluded as he is.

>(and found a new home on Reddit, which he likes because it's a circlejerk. How very Reddit…)

Considering how deluded TF is, that's both scary and impressive.

>>15335

rformula1 does this really interesting thing where they think the popular opinion is unpopular. So they'll say: "I'm ready for the downvotes, I like every change since 2003" as if they're reading the declaration of independence to the king, while surrounded by his guards–Except rformula1 is exactly like the above in that they convince themselves to like shitty things and that's the majority opinion.

>>15337

My favorite are the "post your unpopular opinion" threads, where they upvote "Hulkenberg is underrated" tier opinions, and downvote "Bernie is doing a good job" tier opinions.

>>15337

>"I'm ready for the downvotes"

Sounds more like someone fishing for upvotes, like the girls posting pics of themselves and commenting on how ugly they are.

And I could nearly agree with the guy, except for DRS. F1 could survive a disastrous engine formula, or stupid choices to slow the cars down, but DRS straight up removes overtaking

>>15339

>F1 could survive a disastrous engine formula, or stupid choices to slow the cars down

Why be concerned with what F1 can and can't survive? Why would you watch it if it was way shittier than it had the potential to be? F1 could probably survive as a spec series with dallara chassis and a whole field of ferrari liveried hybrids purely because of the brand value, would you watch it though? I sure as shit wouldn't and neither should you. Part of the responsibility of being a fan is to ride the ass of the governing body (even non technical sports do this *cough fifa*).

As for your second point, the changes to slow the cars down are not only directly at odds with the point of formula 1, they also interfere with the sport itself.

Overtaking for all intents and purposes happens when a car gets a better exit from a corner, and passes on a straightaway, when a car is simply faster in a straight line, when a car passes under braking, or when a car brings more speed through a corner and passes another in that corner.

The last one is a key element of what rewards skill in formula 1.

When the FIA makes changes to slow the cars down, they are almost invariably focused on reducing cornering speeds (reduced tire width, reduced downforce, reduced car width, grooved tires, etc.). This legacy of one certain brazilian driver has brought about the end of the finesse of in corner overtaking. Any further attempt to slow down the cars makes this even worse.

>>15340

DRS is still, IMO, the biggest issue and by far. Drivers can overtake in corners even with the current ruleset, as we've seen a couple of times, it's just that they don't even try. They prefer to ride the ass of the driver in front and get a safe DRS pass on the next straight. It's just cheap.

My "favourite" move being staying behind the car at the DRS detection mark, passing it in a corner or under braking, then enabling DRS on the following straight to make sure whoever is behind stays behind.

I'm pretty sure racing would improve dramatically if DRS was disabled, even if we keep the current cars.

>>15341

I'd personally like to see what happens if everyone gets DRS and can enable it anywhere they want

>>15341

I'm not disagreeing with the fact that DRS is retarded and ruins racing, I'm just saying that there are plenty of equally (or moreso) hateable things.

>>15342

all the passing would still be in a straight line. It would also still be a Mario Kart gimmick.

>>15342

Might be interesting. There will be quite a few crashes because inexperience drivers will enable it when cornering and won't be able to cope with the loss of grip, but it might be a new strategic thing to take into account, as having the DRS open when cornering will put more strain on the tires.

>>15343

but now the defender had the same advantage on the straight line

it sure as shit won't add skill or better racing

>>15344

Drivers had free use of DRS in practice and qualifying up until the end of 2012 and I don't remember a lot of crashes. If anything the new PUs are causing strange crashes like Alonso's in Barcelona.

GPDA survey results

http://gpda.motorsport.com/

>>15348

I really hope they got the message. People pretty much said open up the formula, ditch the hybrids, and go back to 3 liters.

>>15350

>>83% want more safety

>

>The potato effect. F1 cars are already pretty safe now. Sure, there are some issues here and there but we'll never know which since Todt is too busy covering his ass to tell the truth.

You really would have to try to hurt yourself in today's cars on today's fucked tracks. Hamilton hurtled into a wall head on during testing (last year?) and was fine. What more do you want?

>>15352

The issues are with the surroundings, and Bianchi's accident showed flaws in how the extraction was handled, but for standard racing crashes, the cars are pretty much indestructible.

Aren't safety cells supposed to withhold several hundreds of Gs? And then you have things like the HANS device that are definite life savers. And all the little safety measures like wheel tethers. Safety is everywhere.

>>15353

Bianchi's crash wouldn't have happened if they hadn't banned FRIC and generally been nazis about car ride height. Today's f1 cars are shit to drive in the wet for plenty of reasons, but those are two specific ones.

>>15350

>>15352

>>15353

Marshal safety and the role of F1 race control isn't discussed enough. If Binachi's out of control car hit those marshals and not the tractor he would have walked away and a couple of them would have died. The safety debate would be completely different. That really should have been a safety car/red flag situation earlier but race control is too reluctant and rely on double waved yellows that the drivers don't respect, see Germany 2014. Also that tractor shouldn't have been out but the Japanese marshals are considered competent enough to get some slack from Charlie et al iirc.

>>15354

Wasn't there also a problem with the Marussia brake by wire? The recent news about de Villota and the control software of their cars demonstrates a trend here. I don't think it's a coincidence that two of the poorest cars last year crashed in the same spot.

>>15355

>race control is too reluctant and rely on double waved yellows that the drivers don't respect

That's the thing, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. If they signalled and a driver ignored it, the driver gets penalized, and if the driver crashes as a result, it's the driver's fault. OR you can keep having this conversation, put the drivers in closed cockpits, put bumpers on the cars, red flag every time a marshall has to do anything, and throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Until someone is trapped in a closed cockpit that has broken explosive bolts and that's the next hysterical thing.

>Wasn't there also a problem with the Marussia brake by wire?

see

>>649 (skimmed the catalog)

The brake by wire worked, but potato bro pushed the gas and the brake. There is a failsafe that is supposed to ignore gas input in that situation, and that failsafe didn't work.

he did hit the gas and the brake though, so he is at fault.

There was a famous case years ago where people sued audi because they killed people by hitting the gas and not the brake, and audi and other manufacturers had to install an interlock system because people are retarded.

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/03/the-best-of-ttac-the-audi-5000-intended-unintended-acceleration-debacle/

>>15356

"Slow down and be prepared to stop" needs to be quantified somehow or this will keep going on. VSC, anyone? It would have been interesting to see it in action, 20s or whatever it was at Monaco isn't enough to judge.

ty for the clarification on brake by wire

>>15357

np, please do read that audi article though, It's a concept that keeps coming up.

also this is a poignant excerpt from the forix article on ATS http://8w.forix.com/ats.html

In 1958, two more race casualties had to be mourned: Musso getting killed in France in a race won by Hawthorn, and then Peter Collins was lost to the world only a few weeks later at the 'Ring. The press writing on Hawthorn's victory at Reims was heavily critisized by the magazine Civiltà Catolica: it said the win meant nothing because it was built on dead men. These cruel words really got to Enzo Ferrari who went to see a priest on his intention to quit racing. He was told that "God gives each of us a way - sometimes it is difficult, sometimes it is easy. You have chosen the difficult way - you must have the courage to follow it."

Collins' death totally shook up the Commendatore. The Englishman had been very close to Dino Ferrari and to Enzo it felt like he had lost a son. On the brink of another World Championship he was willing to dismantle his Grand Prix team there and then and merely continue with GT racing. It was through Hawthorn that Ferrari decided to continue, the Champion-elect taking a hardline approach to the job. "I am responsible for myself and I know the risks. If I don't have a Ferrari I will race another car, but I want to race a Ferrari for the rest of the season." It all came good at the last race, with Mike taking the title from Moss at the last gasp but sadly only enjoying his glory for a short amount of time, getting killed in a road accident a couple of months later.

Granted Hawthorn died in a road accident caused by him blacking out (he had liver and kidney issues from drinking himself to death, I'm not kidding), but the point remains that he had a mature understanding of the risks involved that drivers today would do well to learn from (not that you can hurt yourself in bumper/f1/cars today.)

>>15355

>double waved yellows

I remember the telemetry from this corner, and in a situation where drivers are supposed to be able to stop their car whatever happens, most were going over 150 kph around that bend. Sure, it's an F1 car and 150 kph isn't much, but considering it's a tricky corners, there are marshalls, a recovery truck and it's raining, maybe a slow 60 would have been better.

But the most controversial part about this crash is how the extraction was handled by the FIA/event organisers/medical team. It took like 40 minutes to get Bianchi out of the track and he had to be driven to the hospital, instead of using the heli which is standard procedure in the case of a head hitting a billion ton truck. I think the upmost limit written in the rules is around 20 minutes. This, and the delay before red flagging the race, the total lack of information on the crash (it took minutes before people spotted the Marussia, and even longer before they realised it was Bianchi) clearly shows a bad handling of the situation.

>>15356

>The brake by wire worked, but potato bro pushed the gas and the brake

Didn't know that, interesting. Isn't this, in some cases, the sign that the driver fell unconscious? I remember Massa in 2009 pressing both pedals after being hit in the head.

>>15357

VSC might be a good option. It sounds a bit like slow zones in WEC, and they tend to work quite effectively. It's a good step forward for safety, and unless it proves not enough, there's no need to keep talking about adding more safety and shit.

How is not Hamilton even in top three in terms of popularity? Or didn't instagram people participate in the survey?

>>15360

i guess you need a certain level of intelligence to fill out a survey

>>15361

Or autism to endure through the whole thing.

Which also explains why le autism man is on the top.

>>15359

This all just ends up going back to Gary Hartstein blog and how a Hinchcliffe style accident would be fatal at 15 of the tracks on the calendar because of the medical teams.

You can't really make the cars that much safer without other complications turning up. The focus should be on trying to reduce the death rate after those freak accidents occur through the response and treatment.

>>15361

Love it

>>15363

I'm shocked by how sensible that is.

>>15364

Actually a really nice article by him

https://formerf1doc.wordpress.com/2015/06/14/a-nother-fantastic-save-long-a-bit-technical-surprise-ending/

>>15350

People are such fucking retards, where the fuck is Jim Clark. All these fucking redditor neckbeard tards voting for drivers who they're told are good. Bunch of idiots.

>>15350

>Senna number one

Dropped like Roscuck dropping the ball on the champions hip in Abu Double last year.

>>15367

i went Schumi, Prost and Mansell.

>>15369

Respectable, what made you think Mansell? You're a central/south american, its your obligation to vote for Nelson Piquet.

>>15366

>where the fuck is Jim Clark

This.

>I choose Prost, Schumacher, and Clark, in an order I don't remember.

>>15369

I don't quite remember, But I believe I voted for Scheckter, Clark, Prost, Andretti, and Schumacher.

>>15370

i like Mansell, fucker sold everything and drove his ass off to get into F1 and then he gave it out all until he won a championship.

He went toe to toe with Prost, Senna and Piquet but he had a something else that i appreciate.

Plus dat mustache man

Also mexico is a north american country

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexico

Well at least we know Hamilton isn't going to win SPOTY again.

Hamilton is such a disgusting nigga

>http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/lewishamilton/11709667/Lewis-Hamilton-is-fed-up-with-the-poor-standard-of-trophies-in-Formula-One.html

>“Where’s the gold trophy, man?”

> “The last one in Austria was wooden, the whole thing was wooden. The base was like lead. I mean, what. It is supposed to be silver.”

"Boo-hoo, my trophies aren't bling enough."

I think everyone will agree that the Santander trophies are a fucking abomination, but Hamilton is crying because they're not gold and diamond encrusted.

>>15376

I got the same feeling about that article. But if anyone can try and change things, its our very own media whore.

>>15376

he needs them to be melted down to make grills. In all seriousness, what a whiny thing to bitch about.

>>15376

how long till hamilton starts using one of those things nigga rappers use that are made of gold and diamonds and goes inside his mouth?

>>15380

I'm surprised he hasn't bling'd his helmet

>>15381

>>15380

>>15382

i just realize i'm making fun of Hamilton for gold and shit but i JUST bought today a Gold Samsung S6.

i'm retarded but… bling bling mothafucka.

>>15378

>grills

>>15380

>one of those things nigga rappers use that are made of gold and diamonds and goes inside his mouth

= grills

>>15381

well there you go. Hadn't thought of that.

>>15382

Count me down for the same.

>>15385

whoops meant to say

because it terrifies me that someone so fucking stupid who speaks with a halting and pathetic cadence who has no insight but to regurgitate champagne socialist demagoguery through the lens of modern profiteering victim worship feminism has the influence that she seems to.

Some really nice interview tidbits with Nico here

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/01/nico-rosberg-silverstone-lewis-hamilton-mercedes-

Really likeable guy, shame the hamilfags are so feverish and absolute in their devotion to hamilton and hatred of nico

>>15388

Black Lotus looks like it's owned by a stancefag compared to Yellow Lotus

>all dat camber

>>15388

Forgive me, that's the lotus 101, the nosecone, engine cover, and intake/rollhoop are different.

Such a british car, keeps stalling so they squirt fuel into it.

>>15397

doesn't he know "it's down the road, not across the street"

>>15396

this aint banter tho, this an actual mexican on his natural environment.

kidnapping someone

>>15397

Did he try to cut himself using a piece of one of his broken engines? Perhaps he failed because his skin is tougher than his engine

>>15399

Does that mean he's going to kill Roscoe with a chainsaw?

>tfw Nico 2015 WDC

>>15403

14 parts used means something like a 100 place grid penalty, right?

>>15406

well, there's no increase in the severity of the penalty

so to get a 100 place grid penalty you'd have to have multiple total engine failures at the same event

>nobody embedded the press conf

I literally had to type the words into goodle myself and now I have lupus

Lewis wasn't actually partying when he skipped the in season test.

He had a "doctors appointment"

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12430/9901530/lewis-hamilton-missed-austria-test-due-to-doctors-appointment

>>15410

maybe he had to take his neighbor's teenage daughter to get an abortion

I mean that worked for me a couple times

>>15412

I'd love for her to examine my prostate.

>>15410

> "doctors appointment"

Otherwise know as sitting on his yacht listening to Dr Dre

Every race, SkyF1 does this stupid segment where Kravitz and Croft argue different sides of a topic.

They do a good job of making convincing arguments, but all that succeeds in doing is to show how fake their presenters are, and that their opinions are editorialized.

>>15413

Prostate stimulation is fun

>>15398

HAHAHA

>>15399

Checo Perez confirmed for Pancho Villa

>>15407

That's actually not a terrible looking livery. The airbnb font matches well with the white accents. What I wonder is whether that's manor's empty garage.

>>15411

yeah she needed emotional support when she went to the clinic and I wanted to be a helpful friend /s

>>15413

>>15417

You guys sure you're not gay?

more team radio/driver aid bans incoming, starting at the Belgian Grand Prix this year

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/f1-set-for-driver-aids-clampdown-from-belgian-gp

>>15421

FIA confirmed for missing the point and losing the plot.

>>15421

also remember when we spoke about it being worthwhile to do tire choice and pirelli said "no, because raisins"?

>>15420

After years of watching people with both dicks and boobs and gay sex I'm not so sure anymore.

>>15421

>driver aid

What sort of driving aids do modern F1 cars have? Or is the FIA talking about radio messages telling drivers what should they do? I can see some sort of launch control thing to help drivers find the bite point but apart from that, nothing.

>>15424

I don't think it's going to make a difference anyway. There's going to be a single fastest tire for each weekend, and all the cars are going to run it. Perhaps if the differences between the tires were big enough to allow for different strategies (I don't know, maybe make it so the harder compounds last enough to compensate for the loss of speed against the softer ones).

Depends if the rule about using 2 different tire types during is going to stay or not.

>>15407

New Manor livery actually looks quite good. Reminds me of older liveries.

>>15425

>What sort of driving aids do modern F1 cars have?

In addition to pseudo traction control systems brought about by the hybrid component, they also have beeps that tell them when to brake and when to lift and coast.

It's pretty stupid.

as for the tires, there should be enough of a difference, and there should be multiple manufacturers for the gap you specify.

In the early 90s they did this pretty well. There were two engine suppliers (pirelli and goodyear) and they were not regulated by the FIA (as in the tires could be developed in season and they could use multiple compounds and you could theoretically buy yourself out of a contract and switch suppliers if one sucked balls). sometimes one of the suppliers would be able to one or no stop, sometimes the other would.

This business of lift and coast, of fucking around with brake balance ad nauseum, of made to fail/degrade tires simply did not exist then. The drivers weren't always 100 percent on a balls out lap, but they also weren't running the race out of a calculator to circumvent issues brought about by retarded tires and a stupid engine formula.

>>15425

>After years of watching people with both dicks and boobs and gay sex I'm not so sure anymore

You're free to do whatever you want. If you're straight, you're straight, if you're gay, you're gay, if you're bisexual, you're bisexual. All that is fine provided you don't try to claim that trannies aren't gay.

(trannies are fucking insane and terrifying too, go on >>>/cow/ if you don't believe me)

>>15407

>red white and blue

>4th of July weekend

Fuck yeah!

>>15429

>>15429

>tfw just fixed my drivers side window popping out of the weatherstrip track by using sex lube

>

>100% silicone safe for all rubber products

>

>yes I drive a van

That's actually clever.

also that girl in that image is a qt

>>15430

lol, also im really displeased by the strategy group rulings for 2017. They seem to care more about synthetically creating closer racing than an open formula. Formula One sucks (although I am basing this of a reddit translation.

>>15432

'Merica is still around as a country. The country that created that flag collapsed in 1917, they've only recently (1991) brought it back.

>>15432

the netherlands has a better claim to the red white and blue flag as they have the oldest tricolor flag still in use.

That said, when people say red white and blue, america comes to mind, so even if we've usurped it, people associate it with us.

>>15433

it beats ripping the whole fucking door apart and trying to fix the regulator

>bend

>bend

>bend

>bend

>straighten

>bend

>bend

>fuck it guess I have to go pull one from the junkyard

>install

>it's bent

and a zillion tiny broken little popoff thingies from the door liner because they were old

>ban of driver aids and driver coaching

How will Sky defend Hamilton when he blatantly breaches the rules now?

>>15441

By laughing it off as amusing and then when Rosberg accidently coughs over the radio Crofty will bring out a sniper rifle.

>>15442

>next year on sky

Is crofty's use of a drone to kill rosberg a driver aid for Hamilton?

>>15443

>Is a grid of robo-hamiltons a bad idea or the best thing to happen to F1 since hybrid technology?

>>15441

Simple. Not having vital communication with the pitwall about strategies and pitstops breaks Hamilton's momentum and is the reason he broken rule X.

>>15443

>next year on sky

Is Rosberg a driver aid for Hamilton on his way to winning this 3rd WDC in a row?

>>15415

Rachel looking QT as ever though, and that's what matters. Maybe one day she'll get one of their jobs

>>15444

Man that nailed the circle jerking. I got Ebola from that post.

>>15446

We can only hope.

http://wtf1.co.uk/ayrton-senna-is-now-an-angry-birds-character/

this is so fucking wrong for several different reasons lmao

>>15448

Yeah main reason:

Why the fuck is Angry Birds making a mario kart clone?

And who the fuck is going to buy it?

>>15448

Rformula1 will buy it

>>15449

The obvious reason is that it will be on mobile, and even the most cynical shitty kart racers on mobile sell well.

Sonic and Sega all stars racing got a lousy port to mobile and sold incredibly well. Angry birds is still a valuable license on mobile and this is a valuable license + viable platform + popular genre.

No one disputes that Mario kart is better, but you can play this on your phone, which will be the selling point.

Mario Kart is just a clone of Crash Team Racing though

Buy Ängri Pöörds :DD support Finnish economy :DD

Seriously though they're kind of late, is it even that popular anymore? They're even making some expensive animated film which won't be finished until couple years, by when it's definitely gonna flop, as it would even now. And I thought Finns knew something about memes.

>refueling set to return

Disgusting. I want on track action. Get rid of DRS, change aero and tire regs to make it easier for cars to follow in dirty air. Up the 100kg fuel limit a bit so there's less lift and coast. I'd be happy with that.

>>15452

Oh and more engines allowed for a season. Sure the engines are expensive, but so are the refueling rigs they want to haul around the world. The fucking freight charges for them must be at least equal to 2-3 additional power units over the course of a year. And give the teams more incentive to run in Free Practice so we don't see mileage saving by having the cars stay in the pits half of the session.

And what I mean by incentive is NOT points. Say a reward like "Excepting when accidents occur, run the car for 45 minutes every single session out of the year and you get an extra engine or two allotted to you penalty free."

I dunno, just an idea

>>15452

From what I've seen of the recent strategy group meeting refuelling is set to not return.

>Up the 100kg fuel limit a bit so there's less lift and coast.

The problem is they would still under fuel the cars and then do lifting & coasting as that is the quickest way to the finish.

>>15454

Oh good, I must have read that wrong then. Definitely don't want to see refueling back

And very good point about fuel limits, hmm.

>>15451

>Mario Kart is just a clone of Crash Team Racing though

Super Mario Kart came out in 1992, mario kart 64 came out in 1996, crash team racing came out in 1999

>Buy Ängri Pöörds :DD support Finnish economy :DD

sure bud

>Seriously though they're kind of late, is it even that popular anymore?

see >>15450

>>15452

Refuelling used to be allowed but not mandated. Only Brabham did it (1982 was the first year) worked out well in that it was risky but kept them slightly ahead of the renaults.

>Get rid of DRS, change aero and tire regs to make it easier for cars to follow in dirty air. Up the 100kg fuel limit a bit so there's less lift and coast. I'd be happy with that.

Agreed on getting rid of DRS. The aero and tire regs really shouldn't exist. The aerodynamic devices that create dirty air are the product of reduced ability to innovate elsewhere. they didn't exist when the engine formula was only limited in displacement

There shouldnt be a fuel flow or fuel limit.

>>15453

Why regulate how many engines they can have? since the turbo era there's next to no benefit conferred by having engines in a higher state of tune that break more.

>>15454

>>15455

Knowing the FIA they will implement a minimum fuel flow as well to stop teams trying to lift and coast.

>>15456

>Why regulate how many engines they can have? since the turbo era there's next to no benefit conferred by having engines in a higher state of tune that break more.

I would prefer they didn't as well. My suggestion was merely a compromise that is slightly more likely than not regulating at all.

Again agreed on the other regs, just trying to find a compromise that the jew bastards will agree to.

I do think it would be interesting to see what happens to Tilkedromes after DRS is gone considering the newer ones have sections entirely built around DRS. "Oh wow, you mean there are two straights followed by slow corners, NO WAY!"

>>15453

Refuelling rigs aren't even necessarily heavy. Brabham used to do it with an air bottle and a fuel tank. If it weren't a spec fuel rig setup, people would buy or develop lighter ones, negating the cost.

>And give the teams more incentive to run in Free Practice so we don't see mileage saving by having the cars stay in the pits half of the session.

And what I mean by incentive is NOT points. Say a reward like "Excepting when accidents occur, run the car for 45 minutes every single session out of the year and you get an extra engine or two allotted to you penalty free."

Look at the source of the problem. They save milage on the car because there's nothing to be gained from running it in all of the time in the session. If there were an ability to develop or test more, you would see more things being fine tuned, and thus more time on the track doing those things.

>>15458

>just trying to find a compromise that the jew bastards will agree to.

Jody Scheckter doesn't believe in DRS or the new formula.

The FIA desperately needs a course in economics. The more the government (in this case the FIA) regulates, the more fucked up things get. It is that simple

>>15460

But based Jody isn't a jew bastard, he's just a jew. Bernie, Helmet Marko, etc are jew bastards.

>>15457

>McHonda make it ten laps in before they run out of fuel

>>15459

Definitely wish there was more testing time allowed too. I'd love to go see some testing with the added excitement of Renault fireworks as the engine self destructs