/fascist/ - Fascism

>>9358

You should try harder to not be offended, and btw isn't the proper term for Euros 'Latino'?

>>9389

Yeah Celtoiberians shirk at the thought of being considered "British"

It's really simple, dude:

Europeans are white. 'Hispanics' is a blanket term for the South American new world; it can range from 100% Spaniards/Portugese, to 100% non-white Indio natives. Mestizos aren't white, but castizos and the like definitely can be accepted in most cases.

SAGE.

Mestizos obviously aren't White. It's silly to even ask the question. I basically draw a line at around the 85% mark.

Even from Caucasians I pick and choose. Is the Italian I am dealing with a Noble Roman Philosopher, or a slimy dago greaseball?

Is the Irishman in question a Proud Gaelic Warrior, or a dirty drunken mick?

It's time to get picky about what we want around us, and start taking out the White Trash.

"Hispanic" seems to be a very broad and poorly defined term

Amerinds and Mestizos aren't white, but Mediterraneans (using the modern definition of the term: original white Med subrace mixed with Nords and Alpines), are most certainly white.

>>9010

I spent a couple of years on 4pol and watched it fall to shit, transitioned to 8pol back in May, just in time to watch it fall to shit, found /fascist/ last week along with some bunkers and am seeing it fall to shit before I even get here. It's the nature of being a dissident minority with no locks on the gates, and it will continue as such until we begin meeting in person.

>>9041

But how are we supposed to meet in person? Not all of us live even in the same country.

>>8993

Which was…? Go to some of the most liberal parts of the US and do what exactly? Pose with pictures of rifles and swastikas?

>Britfag poster

Aren’t you the poster of most of the cancer? Back on old /fascist/ (pre-hack and split) you posted two or three irrelevant threads a day

>>8232

The diplomacy relied on someone backing down on the Baltics. Hitler was more popular in the region, so perhaps if he never relented, Stalin would have possibly folded on a compromise. Either way, I think it would be a shaky alliance. The aftermath of the war could be another cold war situation or result in the USSR making capitalistic(/syndicalistic) reforms sooner than in our timeline. I think the unifying principle would in opposing China in the future.

Imagine if peace had held between Germany and the Soviets until the Germans developed nukes?

>>8232

No. And i'm glad they didn't join.

>>8239

Also this, the only Fascist group were in fucking China.

Followup: People have become accustomed to taking it up the ass, so to speak, whenever the niggers or their leftoid handlers begin their harassment campaigns. We need to fight back. Even on stupid platforms like facebook we shouldn't allow them to dominate us.

>>3784

>Even on stupid platforms like facebook we shouldn't allow them to dominate us.

In an ideal world of course, but I don't know that I'm willing to let zuckerjew have all my data for the sake of an internet contest that'll just get deleted anyways because none of our lads are an admin.

This is pretty much the plan I've made for myself:

First, you need to have a foundation. If you're serious about starting a movement, you need to move to a major city. Then a major obstacle would be to make connections with other members of the far-right in the area, especially promising ones with similar ideas that won't hold your movement back. One way you can do this is to find already established far-right organizations in the area and scope out people you can convert to your cause (neo-nazi groups are best avoided because the majority of their members are white trash thugs and feds).

Once you have that foundation of actual members, you need to work on creating an image and rhetoric. Coming across as too edgy and violent is a killer for small, upstart movements. You have to look smart and serious, you have to look like real men and women, not geeks or thugs. Emphasize your best speakers and brightest thinkers. Set up real programmes assisting the community. Show that you love the common man and want to help. Show that you want what's best for everyone. Of course, you'll need a good internet presence as well: use available social media and post your best demonstrations and speeches wherever you can.

To get people to take you seriously you need to be very subtle in how you present yourself. While you shouldn't lie or hide your aims, you should realize that there are certain beliefs that most people will have an immediate negative reaction to. This will be less so when you are just starting out and you're promoting your group only among the far-right, but as you branch out this will definitely be something you have to consider. Make sure that before you get to this point that your group has already produced some literature explaining its perspective and why its aims are necessary. Know the right answers before you go out proselytizing to the world.

If you do all the aforementioned correctly you should be seeing a steady growth, and your only job then will be to maintain that. Crush all drama as early as possible and weed out people that could betray or split the movement, no matter how high up. Remember that YOU TOO can be the one causing drama and division.

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>>3782

Are you still there, smokinganon.?

>>4856

It's absolutely class collaboration when you split profits between a managerial class, the state and the workers. I'm proud to call myself a socialist but also a class collaborationist.

>>4804

I can't say anything about Strasser but concerning google, there is an alternative called metager it's made by a German university, I believe, and supposed to less censored

>>4856

This. Bringing an end to private property rather than bending it to the will of the polity is not class collaboration. Strasser's plans regarding that weaken the bourgeoisie for the sake of equality rather than cultivate the powers of both bourgeoisie and proletariat for the greater good.

>>5760

Profit splitting is simply knocking down the power of the bourgeoisie. You cannot be a socialist (which advocates for proletarian power at the expense of bourgeois power) and still be in favor of class collaboration.

>>6757

He does indeed do a good job. Recommended to everyone.

>>8979

>UBI

>good

>>8981

The UBI which The Chief proposed would allow for people to pay for the necessities of life and nothing else. Food, water, modest shelter - not much else . If you wanted any creature comforts you'd have to go out and get a job - also if your monthly UBI ran out then tough shit, you'd have to rely on the generosity of your family members or get a job. To avoid inflation and people hoarding their UBI over long periods of time, The Chief proposed a yearly destruction of any and all earned profit - done by declaring the Merit Stock of the previous year unusable. The UBI he proposed is not the same UBI which we hear unemployed Neo-Marxists screeching about today, rather it was a proposed solution to the rampant hunger and destitution in the USA during the depression.

>>8981

>talking shit about the chief

Had it not been for the laws of this land, I would have slaughtered you.

>>9007

I like Pelley.

>>9216

Yeah

>>9217

City side, or eastern shore?

>>9218

City side

>>9219

fug, me too, brother.

>>9205

Why so aggressive?

>>8684

>USSR

Jews.

>CIA

Jews.

What's the difference?

>>8644

To further my point, juche would be perfect without the state atheism and a tad more market movement.

>>8695

>>8644

>To further my point, juche would be perfect without the state atheism and a tad more market movement.

>Perfect.

Let's not get ahead of ourselves, but it seems like you're trying to just change jucheism into national socialism.

>>8708

Or at least Strasserism.

>>8624

I agree

>>8630

sauce?

>>8635

The monarchal aspects are worse than the communist aspects in my mind like you said. Then again if il Song had not been exposed to ((("western" culture))) he wouldn't be hanging out with Dennis Rodman

I must make one correction though I'm against both Marxism and Capitalism but lean more toward the former (Syndicalism, Chinese Socialism, Georgism)

>>9178

> really? for fucks sake.

you can't apply the burger context of minorities to Spain, to pre-civil war Spain to be exact.

When Rivera talks about the protection of minorities he meants as long as It maintains the Spirit of united destinty.

This means that basques,catalans, castilians would stop fighting each other but work together as spaniards. Separatism would be the death of this country.

>>9190

I get it, but in my own country. even if we have to balkanize. I told you my views are very complicated.

Sorelians like me a weird bunch advocate mostly for statelessness and near communistic economics but favor traditionalism/futurism/reactionism over the progressive tendencies of most lib left originated economic philosophies.

although if you can't depend on the people you must resort to some form of authority.

Atalante Quebec seem to be a pretty solid, street level organization up in canuckistan

>>9146

Let me add that third parties in America are total LARP vanity projects. Our ideas would get much more traction if we ran in GOP primaries to displace cuckservatives in receptive areas. Especially to run for president, if uncharismatic and literally WHO? Ron Paul educated so many people about lolberg ideas, then we get a half decent guy and push our ideas.

>>9148

This is what I’ve been thinking too, we’d basically have a party within a party. I still think it’d be a good idea to have a party like the libertarian party or dsa. It could serve some use to us, like helping spread our message.

I wanted to add to this point

>I believe preaching anti miscegenation and anti multiculturalism to non whites will be beneficial. I think this because instead of fighting some holy race war that gets more whites killed, the non whites will back off themselves if you make micegination look "uncool" dare I say.

I wanted to say that if we show Blacks the Jewish connection to the slave trade and side with Muslims to free their homelands from Jewish control, we can all unite against the Jew then go out separate ways. I also believe in getting Asians on our side as well. Now again, preaching preservation and anti race mixing to all races will prevent unnecessary deaths. I wholeheartly believe the jew wants to incite a race war for two reasons.

1. Remember what you learned about the JQ? All the supposed attrocities whites commuted were actually commuted by Jews. They project their vitrol and genocide unto an innocent people. I think they want us to commit an atrocity so that they can, in a few generations come back in and instill white guilt again, this time with proof.

2. They want to get whites killed in war. The reasoning behind this is because, whites are a minority in the world. So why not have them get the whole world against them? Have them, or Jews pretending to be them, call for a race war so if it does happen, whites will get killed in the process. You'll also have whites who fight against the WN and cause white deaths by white hands. Remember, some White Nationalists preach the death of liberal whites which can easily be converted through reeducation. Even if whites come out victorious, you'll still have had possibly millions of white deaths when you could have gotten what you wanted and collaborated with people who are getting screwed over by the Jew just as much as whites.

My point is, how do you counter WN larpers who are possibly ready to act out their fantasies once a collapse comes? I refuse to have millions of whites killed because a few low IQ retards thought it would be a good idea to have a race war.

>>8526

>have gotten what you wanted and collaborated with people who are getting screwed over by the Jew just as much as whites.

Yep, this is the thing that Serrano proposed to do with the mestizo caste here in Chile

> My point is, how do you counter WN larpers who are possibly ready to act out their fantasies once a collapse comes? I refuse to have millions of whites killed because a few low IQ retards thought it would be a good idea to have a race war.

You'll have to convince most of /pol/ for that since they are the propaganda machine that perpetuates that concept.

>>4733

>I believe preaching anti miscegenation and anti multiculturalism to non whites will be beneficial.

Meme that Jews/"the rich whites" want to breed whiteness into blacks to make them passive and controllable.

It plays up to their self-image in a flattering way and tips a wink to crime stats, so can't be debunked by well-meaning whites who didn't get the memo.

Same with Asians, trying to take away the black man's soul and the black woman's power and make them hosts for Asian souls. Etcetera.

You'd have to be pretty subtle but the wacky shit a lot of them believe already (like vodou, where you have a met tet or "master of the head" you're born with), it wouldn't be hard.

Larp as a black person and leak the info, say your gramma was a mambo (vodou priestess) and rootworker (trad. healer & spellcaster) and she let you in on it, that's why massa's overseers raped the slaves, to break the link to Mother Africa and forcibly imbue the next generation with white souls.

You worked in a big biotech company (just the secretary, but you ran the damn place) and the bosses were talking about their plans.

Genetic modification is about finding ways to splice white genes into blackness. Shit like that.

It's probably not even factually incorrect, (((they))) probably really are using all the 23andme data to try and create the perfect smart-yet-meek, strong-yet-timid goyim. Who won't resemble a Chicago street hood, or a pure-blood Maasai.

Lipstickalley, black female gossip site (woke to pedos in Hollyweird), luckymojo (big site for rootworkers) are 2 places to start, also comments section for vodou (also spelled voodoo and vodoun) people on YouTube.

Black people can be decent, they’re like kids, trusting as long as you give them things, even if they know you're openly racist (personal exp here).

>>7948

>>8262

Salazar wasn't a Fascist and neither was the Estado Novo. It was influenced by fascism but not actually Fascist,it was more like authoritarian conservativism/traditionalism with a heavy religious influence.

Kind of its own thing,even people in Portugal have problems labeling it.

>>8132

>The strasser brothers and Hitler should have worked together and implemented both of their ideas into the NSDAP so it would have reached it's full potential

Yeah i think the same, while in an ideological level I agree with hitler, when it comes to economics the strasser brothers were far better than him. Ultimately while I don't like it, collaboration was impossible, both were too much alpha for any sharing of power. I really doubt that Strasser would have submitted to Hitler and vice-versa.

>>6272

> The Falange was anti-Monarchist

I still think Rivera would have been less agressive agaisnt the monarchy if the spanish aristocracy wasnt so passive to the enemy, he used to be in the monarchist party after all.

>>6146

PdR was a real fascist, Franco was just a national-conservative. As seen by his rule over Spain which didn't change much except maintain capitalism and traditional values as best he could before handing over to the new king who proceeded to usher in a new era of liberal democracy.

Franco is why modern monarchism cannot be trusted.

>>8711

>he strasser brothers and Hitler should have worked together and implemented both of their ideas into the NSDAP so it would have reached it's full potential

they did…

>>8544

Maybe they can be taught eventually

>>8602

Hopefully

>>8536

I just made a /Fsg/ on 4/pol/ if any of you want to hop in there. https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/188660900

The board going blank took the wind out of everyone's sails.

>>9043

Holy shit I clicked your link. I hadn't been to cuckchan in 8 months and now I know I don't need to go back.

>>9051

Yeah it’s pretty bad

Anyone ?

>>8897

> It would change the way of life if we did indeed find out it was true and therefore it would change the way of fascism

I guess fascism objectives would change of "seeking national salvation" to "destroy the simulation", fascist don't like being lied to, ya know?

>>8897

Damn dude, what if like, this entire universe is like, wow man, the entire universe is like the water inside my bong maaan.

Retardation tbqh. The universe being bong water has just as much validity as it being a simulation, both have nothing suggesting it, and regardless it doesn't change the physical experience and reality of human emotion and in general, you know, existence.

>>8897

Put two mirrors exactly opposite of each other, rendering an infinite reflection would require infinite processing power.

Try organizing a flashmob with more people doing the same.