/fascist/ - Fascism

>>9246

You should care about optics because it reflects on everyone else associated with you. Your actions do affect others out there.

>>10078

Good post. Could you, in your own words, explain your support of strasserism? Sorry for off topic, but the hugbox of pol often leaves me without straight answers.

>>9120

So fashy arts and crafts didn’t build a movement? Who woulda thunk? You failed man, so did heighnbach. all of your serious members left for Patriot Front. Just support real fascism movements instead of LARPing as Nazis and yelling at Jews.

>>5984

>That are also ripped bodybuilders

This, Goddammit this

Imagine a world where your fellow nationals could end every argument with a foreigner with « Well, that might be true, but MY leader could beat up your President »

How do you even counter that? The discussion is over, you and your Duce's abs have won, they might as well make a petition to be annexed by your nation

No fat kids in the hitler youth. When you've got health like that because you were drummed through intensive fitness programs, as well as the knowledge of how to defend yourself/kill a man, you've got more to be happy about than most 9-5 300 pounders inhabiting the very liberal "free" united states.

>>10191

Over-educated metropolitan elites would be unhappy, everyone else would get used to it and probably be happier. Patriotism, collectivism, law and order etc are more important to most people than individual rights although in some countries this might not be the case.

It depends on how 'happiness' is defined.

People on the right and fascists tend to have an 'Aristotelian' idea of happiness, which basically amounts to 'happiness is living your life in a virtuous way, regardless of the circumstance you're in'. It is shared by the stoics and divorces happiness from materialism. Under this theory, Fascism and by extension conservative living increases happiness, as it drives people to stay above the bog of decadence, indulgence and addiciton.

'We must subordinate our appettites, our passions and our egoism to the wholeness of the National interest. This way we will be a really free people, otherwise anarchy and indiscipline will reign over us under the false mask of freedom'-Ioannis Metaxas

>>10191

It is true that fascist states have a lot of restrictions in conduct, be it cultural or legislative laws.

In liberalism one is free to do whatever one wants, or at least that's the idea, yet most people are slaves of their own vices. While in fascism all those restrictions keep vice at bay and let oneself to act without taking into account such low urges. Even Buddhists who value freedom so much that they end up leaving everything live with a lot of restrictions in order to achieve illumination –a.k.a. total freedom–.

So it is a question of letting vice be free or being free from vice

I personally believe that happiness is general satisfaction. Can't be happy if you feel hunger every day, but you cannot be happy too if you are a brat who wants to have everything. Once people feel to be satisfied with what they have they will be happy, but the idea of total freedom only makes people think that they can and must have everything be better, which without a concrete goal will only torn into bottomless greed

You don't need to run a police state where saying "communism isn't such a bad thing" ends in the death penalty like you're implying. That just makes people hate you more and turn on you no matter what good you're doing them. You need to learn the difference between free speech and dangerous activities because they're not enemies. A dumb kid spewing dumb shit is part of them growing up, always has been and always will be. That's different from promoting communism as a political alternative.

In a functioning country things don't need micro management, they run smoothly on their own. It doesn't do you any good to ban porn when every man will have a wife who will satisfy his needs. To some of them watching smut together will help them do exactly that. Banning it would only encourage an illegal grey market to start up where you're playing cat and mouse all day.

Happiness is too abstract a concept to base anything on. But you can promote pride and good behaviour which leads to people feeling overall good about things rather than pleasure seeking.

shit, i accidentally double posted my entire fucking thread xD the captcha didn't want to fucking load and i think i double clicked when it finally loaded

>>10334

You took the political chart, made one that supposedly is the accepted one (it's not), and then scrambled that, fucked it up beyond sanity with nonsensical axis rewording, and put almost every ideology in completely the wrong spot regardless. Neither of them make sense from any perspective.

>>10417

autism

>>9384

This is commie-tier shit.

Called "communa" in russian.

I always thought we are going to encourage family things,no?

Of course, on a paper it is good ,yet someting inside is telling me that it will fail.

To be honest,if I had an opportunity I'd join, but my family would started suspecting me being homosexual. heh

>>10297

Its about building a community, not a commune. We're not shutting ourselves off from the rest of the world, the "get involved in your community" part should've made that clear. It's building the movement from scratch by putting local anons in direct contact with each other in a space where they don't have to worry about ensoring themselves. It's the starting point, Ivan, not the whole plan.

And let's be honest here, you're family has everything from Krokodil dens to american-sponsored church-cults to worry about before they stumble across your dirty little secret.

Heard of WALK?

It's a project you can find out more about over on >>>/meadhall/- essentially, we come up with a list of convenient but not crowded areas in a city for anons in the area to come on dubs days (the 11th and 22nd of each month) at trips time, 4:44pm, dressed in a white baseball cap & a white T-shirt, to see if anybody else dressed like that shows up; and just like that, you can meet up with each other whilst having plausible deniability.

They're currently looking for location suggestions.

>>10312

Yeah that’s a stupid idea, idk what I was thinking tbqh.

we're too edgy for /pol/ and /leftpol/ alike. most people won't get the message that IT JUST WORKS.

Golden age /fascist/ was killed, then spun-off into /3rdpol/, /3pos/ or whatever bullshit… and kind of sucked. /fascist/ was revived and all the drama brought shitposters… its now silver age /fascist/, but honestly since /leftypol/ gave up on trying to convert us and the shitposters left…

It's actually quite comfy.

>>10314

There are still a few Lefty-pol reject around. Manny treat fascism as an economic doctrine and not a spiritual one, and that creates a lot of friction and division

>>10129

I remember saying something similar to the original BO of this board and Egor, that I would rather have /fascist/ be a place for you to make a few well-made posts in the afternoon, sleep, go to your normal day and check for replies on the next day. The problem with /pol/ is that it is used as a means of escapism, a power fantasy and a complete waste of time that only serves to speed up the Heat Death f the universe, I am worried about the same happening here

>>10314

I would say that things have gotten better, although people are still wasting their time with that thread about mongrels with the maymay pepe girl

But to be honest I would propose to simply improve the quality to our posts and refuse to give discussion to anyone who proves to be just plain retarded (not ignorant), since the BO has stated that he won't micro-manage everything then it is up to us, I guess we will get the board we deserve

>>10314

>>10318

Just checked /3rdpol/. Seems they're having the same dilemma we are; after the hacking drama, this place went to the shitposters for awhile & the people who stayed on /3rdpol/ to avoid it saw their board traffic shrink. Now we're back to the modest traffic we had before, but it's split between 2 boards.

I can't speak for the positions of the people who decided to stick to the bunker board, but it seems to me that if we want to continue growing the board & the board culture we wre starting to develop, whilst keeping the less desirable qualitites of quantity at bay, then the easiest way to do that would be to re-merge the community.

Not really, the use of "corporation" is a poor translation since it means "private business" in America. In fascist Italy it meant labor unions and private agreements between people. Watch cultured thug's video on it.

>>8613

DIstributism does sounds like a cool idea. It would be very interesting to see how it works.

>>8612

>if you work with the state, the state helps so you wont fall

seems pretty nationalistic to me tbh

>>8613

Distributism and Syndicalism and Chinese-style Socialism are chad tier economics.

>>8612

Well, by stateing this you acknowledge capitalist or marxist hegemony over the others.

In other words,your assumptions are based on CoC perception of the world.

The question should be whether is fascism a reactionary movement to CoC or is it more.

>>10265

You started?

>>10264

I got annoyed, it's fair. You'd get annoyed if you explained something four times and it had literally no impact on his parroting.

>>10245

Honestly I am in favour of both christianity and pagan religions as they are both very important to europien culture we just need to get rid of the Jewish corruption that has infested christianity over the years

>>10269

Was meant for

>>10250

In an hour day of the Dead (It is actually two days) will be over, and I never got to invoke the spirit of Mussolini for him to judge my risotto, he would have probably get pissed at me and pulled my legs during my sleep

>>10219

It seems to me that this is a symptom to a bigger problem, I would like to identify it before making another thread, I really dislike overly specific threads that can be closed with only a few posts; waste of space and digits

>>10241

Jesus Christ came as a reformer and King to all jews, those who accepted him found salvation under the Son of God, while the rest (post-Christ Jews) became lucifereans in order to reject the teachings of Christ. Modern Christianity is not an off-shot of Modern Judaism but instead share a common ancestor. Is like saying humans came from chimps, the correct statement is that both humans and chimpanzees came from the same ancestor that is now long dead

>>10285

Well said anon

In my version

1. sure as long as its not a business

2. of course

3. that's fine

4. likely not

to these I would say this:

>civic or ethnonationalist? cultural

>monarchy? yeah, preferably

>freedom of religion?

>socialism, corporatism, or capitalism? socialism and corporatism combined

>militarism or pacifism? militarism, definitely

>>10173

forgot freedom of religion, its fine as long as you're not jewish or a zionist.

>>9941

>I'm not sure if I'm a fascist but I'm finding out

You are

>Ok in a fascist government can I own my own property?

Yes, Rivera called capitalism « Anti-private-propety ». As long as your ventures do not damage your community you can get filthy rich, but keep in ming that the richer you are the more oversight you will get.

There are a few flavors of fascism still blaming the material on our spiritual problems, but classical fascism is not one of them

>Can I own my own firearms?

How are you supposed to be an effective member of society without one?

>Can I worship Jesus Christ?

Yes, extreme neo-paganism is rare in practice. You do get mixes of Christianity with the local traditions, but that's a characteristic of christianity

>Will I not have to worry about degeneracy that could affect my future family?

The liberal idea that the state should not worry about the morality of the people is thrown out the window, degenracy is enemy number one

>Just trying to determine if this is the ideology for me.

Read the Doctrine of Fascism, it is surprisingly short and straight to the point

>>10117

No he isn't. He needs to have a grasp of the theory, not just "hurr I want muh ethnostate"

>Ok in a fascist government can I own my own property?

Depends on what you mean by fascism. But, considering that you're probably not a small businessman, no regime, even a communist one, is going to take your toothbrushes away.

>Can I own my own firearms?

Depends on where you are and what 'fascist' regime you're referring to. Unfortunately, considering the turbulent history of Italy's fascist movement pre-1923, there really isn't a single proper definition for 'fascism'. But considering how most of the nationalist white population in America supports gun ownership, the answer is 99% going to be yes.

>Can I worship Jesus Christ?

Depends on the fascism. In fact, you should just discard the notion of fascism being a coherent ideology. It's just a label that has been slapped on a myriad of ultranationalist ideologies, even if you limit it to just Italy.

Also, why care about a Jew on a stick so much?

>Will I not have to worry about degeneracy that could affect my future family?

So, you're one of those tradcon types. Look, 'degeneracy' and gays didn't ruin the family. Women and retarded divorce policies did. Fix your family courts and have an economy where men can make a living, and MAYBE you can have a possibility of restoring your 50's Arcadia. Honestly, even if we cleaned up the feminist divorce system and get rid of neoliberal capitalism, I don't want to go back to the 50's system. Housewives are obsolete due to modern appliances, and we're honestly better off not pigeon-holing citizens into certain roles.

>>10062

What happens to all constitutions is what's happening with America's today and what happened with the British ones a long time ago. They get subverted. You either make a constitution that can be modified, or cannot, under any circumstances whatsoever, be modified. Both of which have issues.

>>10199

>he United States has held on with a stable, conservative, racially aware, Christian white population much better than ANY country in its position.

What position is that? I don't care how "conservative" are, I care about how traditional they are. They were seeped in enlightenment values since their inception.

>>10207

>To add on that, there wasn't much of a severe fracture point for them. The biggest instability came with the Civil War. The US plays on easy mode.

>What is Shay's Rebellion?

>What was the Constitution dispute?

>What was the Federalist Party's collapse?

Libertarians can fuck off

>>9782

Was posting when this place had less than 1 pph. Unfortunately I think this is gonna be the average from now on, our board's golden age ended.

>>9785

I was here in when we had less than 300 or so posts on this board nigger.

Bump

>>10045

I remember you anon. Good seeing you.

I remember reading something about his cabinet being full of railroad and steel tycoons who wanted to build railroads through the south. The south had impetus to go to war to continue slavery as an institution, but the Northerners definitely didn't have an impetus to go to war to end slavery as an institution. It was just another capitalist imperialist war.

>>10181

tbqh, it was imperialism forced on us from above.

>>10172

You know, Lincoln was dead when niggers were given citizenship

>>10181

The war wasn't to "end slavery". Even the Emancipation Proclamation did not "end slavery". Why do so many fascists have so little interest in actual history? While the northerners did strongly oppose slavery, it wasn't to free the poor innocent blacks, it was because they feared the "slave power", or the oligarchy of plantation-owning aristocrats, which undeniably dominated the southern state governments. Ever since Bleeding Kansas northerners were certain of a conspiracy to expand slave power to the entire country, and the southerners were just as certain of a conspiracy to abolish slavery entirely. What actually led the southern states to rebel (yes, rebel, there is certainly nothing lawful about their secession and giving them a right to secede by appeal to voluntaryism is anarchism, so the secession was certainly unjustified) was the election of Abraham Lincoln (who won because as the sole abolitionist candidate he got 100% of the abolitionist vote), who promised to completely prevent all expansion of slavery to the western territories. It was before he was even inaugurated that South Carolina took the first step in declaring itself independent of the United States. Naturally, the incoming president refused to recognize this pretended independence, but still desirous of reconciliation he refused just as much to send in troops. There were plenty of federal forts in the south, and the CSA had been buying them from Lincoln's failure of a predecessor, but now Lincoln refused to recognize the CSA, and so refused to negotiate sale with them. The war began when the CSA attacked Fort Sumpter instead. So, why did the north go to war? To defend the Union from the rebellion which sought to destroy it.

The Civil War is often compared to the Revolution, but when we actually look into both, they are eerily the opposite. Whereas the Continental Congress made every attempt at reaching a compromise with parliament, and did not even secede when unjustly attacked, but made one final attempt at peace, the federal government made every attempt at reconciliation with the seceding states, with congress even going so far as to pass a constitutional amendment which would've protected the institution of slavery in the south in perpetuity, the southern elites, like British parliament, refused anytPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>cuckime

Fuck off nigger

Weebshit Darkie

>>10140

No, they don't.

>>10140

Ukrainians are closer to Uyghurs of China than to Slavs.