/fascist/ - Fascism

>>11196

that noctulian pentagram at the bottom left makes it unusable

>>11208

The only O9A "pentagram" presetn is in the middle, the bottom left is the symbol for SIEGE by James Mason, also actually read The Sinister Tradition before going full moralfag satanic panic autism mode

*/fascist/

my bad.

Isn't there already a BUF revival group?

I'm not really knowledgeable in both of these, sorry.

>>11451

That would be the New British Union. ( https://www.newbritishunion.co.uk )

Frankly they come across as total LARPers and losers. They refuse to actually register as a political party and their uniforms and videos are cringey as fuck.

>>11452

>>11451

Not to mention Gary Raikes has all the charisma of a plank of wood. I'm not from Bongistan but I'd steer clear of the NBU - can't say anything for certain about the BNF though.

>>11271

Alright then, i will share

>Hezbollah sucks and just wants to turn Lebanon into Iran.

>People shouldn't just automatically support a politician if they trash Israel.

>Capitalism, generally speaking, tends to work most of the time

>Allying with communists is bad

>The Soviet Union was only slightly good for the Russians, Baltic people tend to not think fondly of it.

>Private Property is a human right

>Germany allying with USSR

>Eastern European countries are very nationalistic and traditional as a reaction to communism, not that communism actually protected traditional values or anything people like.

>Yugoslavia, hailed by commies as the "true" example of communism working, was ironically the most open to western nations (First communist country to open McDonalds, and showed a lot of western movies.)

Yeah, i know, this post became just a full on rant and i am sorry.

>>11430

>Capitalism tends to work most of the time

Yeah until it erodes your culture, establishes liberalism( a must for capitalism to survive) and inevitably caters to the elites.

>allying with communists is bad

Well if you mean Marxist’s,leninists, and especially Trotskyites then yes, other than that every revisionist I’ve Met has been more in line with our goals than anyone in the right.

>private property is a human right

There’s no such thing as human rights. And private property (especially real estate) was something that was pushed so Jews could legally buy up a host nation, it also pushes the backward concept of selling your own cultural lands for material

>eastern European countries

And how do you think they are able to push tradition? Because the USSR shielded them from cultural erosion. Of course it would be ludicrous to say the USSR defended it but no one ever said they did.

>>11431

>There’s no such thing as human rights.

How so?

>, other than that every revisionist I’ve Met has been more in line with our goals than anyone in the right.

Where have you met these people?

>. And private property (especially real estate) was something that was pushed so Jews could legally buy up a host nation

Okay, i want to argue that is a biased opinion since there were nations with private property that did not deal with what you claim, like the Estado Novo, and perhaps Italy. I won't bother with mentioning Natsoc Germany since you are a Strasserist.

Also i have other opinions

>Not all jews have to be massacred and genocided because believe it or not, not all jews are in on the whole thing.

>It was for the best that Franco took power and not the falange or carlists. Franco was more or less the middle man in the Nationalist side and the Falange and Carlists didn't really like each other, which isn't helped that the Falange threw grenades at a Carlist rally at some point. Letting the Falange or Carlists take power would have possibly created more issues.

>>11435

>how so

No one is owed anything in life, rights are the product of a society not because you want them or deserve them. There are people out there who believe homosexuals being accepted into society is a human right, human rights is just a projection of what a certain individual wants in society.

>where have you met these people

Pockets of the internet and a few comment sections, some in real life. They are usually the people “normal” communists and anarchists hate. I was intrigued with why the left would cast out there own and thus began me shedding the notion of “le left wing is ebil XD”

>biased opinion

Perhaps, it’s not that I don’t believe in ownership. It’s just that the concept of real estate is one that’s dominated by jewery. Buying a country, profiting off of something by simply owning it, hiking up prices year after year, forcing people to go into debt just to live etc. Etc.

>not all Jews are in on the whole thing

They don’t have to be. Their very nature is why they would have to be. Just because they don’t own the institutions doesn’t mean they don’t support it or play roles in it. I will admit however it’s either complete deportation or genocide.

>Franco

He was a sellout and a backstabber, his compromising attitude is what fucked everything up.

>you are a strasserist

Sorta. I mean this flag is the closest thing to my political views. And the strasser flag has kinda turned into a representation for left wing nationalism now.

>>11280

>>11272

In a way, Dugin was right. Even Cuba is more socially conservative than most western nations. Russia, Iran, Venezuala, Syria and DPRK are the countries that currently put up the most resistance to jewish global capitalism. After the revolution of 68, the tankies unwittingly inherited the torch of true nationalism and anti Zionism. I consider myself a NatSoc and ostensible enemy of the eastern bloc but in retrospect, the jewish capitalism of wall street is so evil that communism has legitamately more merit. After all, if third positionism are supposed to be opposed to capitalism AND communism, then strategically and cynically supporting communism shouldnt be seen as any worse than strategically and cynically supporting capitalism. Yet we see so many white nationalists and alt fighters reflexively siding with capitalism because

>they still hold on to priors from their conservative and libertarian days

>they have yet to really consider fascism as a socialistic, future oriented, third position rather than an edgier version of conservatism.

Fascism and related ideologies like national socialism were always ment to be progressive, not reactionary. Were not conservatives because our current plutocratic order is unworthy of preservation

>>11380

>Implying that Injuns don't deserve to be put in zoos for hogging up all of that good land and supporting the British Tories and other capitalist Jewry against a chance for white workers to free themselves from feudal and capitalist oppression.

Say with it with me:

MANIFEST DESTINY NOW AND FOREVER!

>>11422

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You can have ALL Mexicans under your wing without it being a mix-bag

>Yucatán

That's Mayan clay, it should be respected as such without letting them out of the Empire.

Much rather flood Mexico City (or CDMX, like all the cool kidz call it these days), have Tepito, Doctores and all those horrid places be gone and make Mexico City a true model city

>no fucking way am I sharing an ethno-state with taco niggers and literal sub-human Zambos.[…] preferably the Yucatan peninsula to northern Columbia.

That goes though Veracruz, the second blackest state at a whopping 2%

>>11437

M-mommy, what's the Russian Liberator going to do to us?

>>11380

I guess some form of commonwealth could be formed with each race having their own commonwealth, but adhering to the same Government/Culture. Also recreating the CSA would be ideal imo.

Acceleration towards year zero is best.

>Transhumanism "drakeno.jpeg"

>Primitivism "drakeno.jpeg"

>Nick Land meets Uncle Ted "drakefuckyea.jpeg"

>>11397

>Uncle Ted

Who?

>>11418

Kaczynski, duh

>>11425

Did someone say Accelerationist Insurrection?

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>>11168

It's just another obscure online political party that won't result in anything. Also they don't tolerate ethno-nationalism or anti-semitism so I'm already of a mind to dismiss them. Other than that there's nothing they want that most of us don't.

>>11168

>calling themselves Civicists,

I am not even reading this - this sounds like something Sargon of a-Cuck would start….

>Civicists

even the name alone is abhorrent

>>11168

They sent me a message on Reddit to join. I don't know about these guys.

>Mason

So fed up with people shilling him. I read siege to know what's the matter with "REED SEEJ" propaganda. It was after being familiar with AWD being satanic.

Going through the book I did not understand what's the fuss about. It would be wrong to say that the book preaches relativism. I mean it does but it would imply that the book pushes some sort of ideals while in fact the book does not have any. Even heroism and standing for ideals is scorned. Utilitarianism is the only value found here. I fail to see the difference to leftist ideologies

>inb4 muh false dichotomy

I realize the dichotomy does not make sense. However there is a view that upholds absolute values then there is utilitarianism, relativism and so on. The siege falls into the latter category.

What strikes you about the book too is the air of arrogance throughout. The book talks a lot about "destroying the system" but does not talk about what system should emerge. It is oriented towards destruction. Furthermore there are more than "subtle" hints of satanism.

>There is no satanism in siege

You missed the chapter where Manson is adored? Who do you think he was?

>B b b but just because he liked something about him that does not make him satanist.

Let's see here: No morals put forward, check, scorning Christianity, check, will to power for power's sake, check, ranting about destruction, check, praising actual satanist as the "most redpilled" check.

Believe what you want but the clues are there.

As far as "AWD" - satanism proven. If you check out the page of siegeculture you will find satanist literature there.. On the front page there is Baphomet.

>It is just a meme bro

Yeah well in that case I want nothing to do with it. One does not joke about satanism. Furthermore if you read siege nothing in the book is presented as a joke.

One bonus point: I do not understand why he writes about "BIg Brother system". This is a fucking cringe no other way to put it. I know no red pilled people who unironically usPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>11408

You didn't read SIEGE.

If you did you wouldn't be conflating the AWD with SIEGE, and subsequently the ONA with SIEGE since they are two wholly different things, I have met a lot of people who have read and support what is put down in SIEGE but they were vehemently opposed to the ONA and the Tempel Ov Blood, a good example of this was the initial AWD members who left after discovering there was a small minority (It still is just that, a small minority) of ONA and ToB satanists in the organization and the System Resistance Network was largely pro SIEGE but anti Satanism. You would be right that it does not preach relativism, but what Fascist DOES preach relativism? Also this is where I know you haven't actually read the book, a good half of the book is idealistic, an example is "The Simplistic Society" in SIEGE and I can give you much more examples such as well, Universal Order and a lot others which makes me believe you haven't read a single page of SIEGE once in your life and you're just going off what your fellow "Fashy Goys" have said about Atomwaffen being satanic. Heroism and standing for ideals is not scorned, you haven't read SIEGE at all. It's only utilitarian in the revolutionary aspect of things, which is practical but other than that you're full of shit and haven't read SIEGE if you claim the whole damn thing is "Utilitarian" give me a fucking break, again, it absolutely DOES go into what society will emerge as a result of the smashing of the System multiple times, you haven't read SIEGE. The only Satanism preached by James Mason in the book is small hints of his sympathies with the Church of Satan which is not the ONA or the satanists you're thinking about, he himself is an atheist and only embraced Christian Identity's claims of we wuz the real Israelites, a position he has recently abandoned. SIEGE upholds absolute values, National Socialism and nothing else, you did not read SIEGE, I am convinced. Manson was not a satanist lmao. He rejects "System morals" but clearly laid forth the path of forging your own individual morals free from the System, that's a large part of Universal Order actually, again you haven't read SIEGE and the fact that you haven't read it is what's going to make you sperg out in response claiming you did when that's an obvious lie. Scorning Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>11412

Literally entire argument is

>no ur wrong

>u haven’t read my edgy WN book

Something tells me that unless we sympathize with you then you’re just going to be a contrarians

Lmao go to /pol/ or something maybe people will take your meme ideas seriously

>>11412

>evangelical retard.

I am not protestant. Do not bother.

>hurrr durrr do not criticize my favorite book

>YOU DID NOT READ IT

I did. And I did not encounter any absolute values. There was no religion put forward. Heroism was described as something of the past, the actions were not judged as "moral" but rather in a way "might makes right" or "how useful sth will be". This is what utilitarian morality is.

>Church of Satan, Cosmotheism, Aleister Crowley's works, Hindu texts, a book on Gnosticism and Charles Manson, call me crazy but I don't think you can be all of those religions all at the same time, which means it's more of a "take your pick" kind of reading list which doesn't condemn the ONA or the ToB BUT it isn't required or even pushed by anyone on Siegeculture.

Lol then I really do not want anything to do with it.

If you seek wisdom, read Evola, Guenon or whatever. probably reading of church of satan is not the best pick

>You would be right that it does not preach relativism, but what Fascist DOES preach relativism?

The book does not preach it yet it practices it and condones it because again it does not put any absolute values forward

>You didn't read SIEGE. If you did you wouldn't be conflating the AWD with SIEGE

First I did and I regret reading it I could have read something else instead. Second I do not say AWD and siege is the same thing but after reading the book I understand that people sometimes turn into satanists after reading a book that unashamedly praises a literal satanist.

>He rejects "System morals" but clearly laid forth the path of forging your own individual morals free from the System, that's a large part of Universal Order actually

You laying your own morals is literally what moral relativism is. This is what the "system" if you will did in the first place. You putting your own morals is not absolutism, it is relativist in ePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>11412

Why do you care if I liked the book anyway? If it's so great then you should not care for an opinion of a "retard" or "christcuck" or whatever you want to call me.

You guys shilled "read siege" for some time and I did because I was interested what the book had to say. Now I just say my thoughts about the book itself and all you can exclaim is:

>no you didn't/haven't read siege

(7 times on one post) You trying to make yourself sure I did not or what?

>If you did you would understand X Y Z

People may disagree with each other when they read something. I do not understand why it bothers you so much and why you veehmently try to claim "you did not read it because then you would have liked it"

I did not. So get over it.

>>1403

Read Heinrich Himmler's "The Homosexual Threat To Civilization"

>>11409

Wtf is this

>>11410

Untermensch

Anyone who strays from the path of morality and fills their life style around worldly pleasure deserves to be beaten to death. A moderate standpoint would be re-education labor encampment.

>>1375

first post best post

Strasser I will admit was lighter on the jews than hardline NatBols like Niekisch and Paetel, though a proper English translation of the latter's book hasn't been done yet. Strasser was also not ethno-nat like either of them settling between civic and cultural.

>>11284

>strasser was just a reformist

Which is ironic because pretty much every strasserite today wants revolutionary politics

>>11306

then they are Nazbol then, not Strasserite.

>>11377

Idk pretty much every strasserite I’ve talked to wants revolution, I will admit they aren’t as extreme as nazbol tho

>>11381

>>11377

I feel like in this age most are driven to the idea of revolution because there are hardly any outlets today that would be in a position to enact such a """radical""" reform

>>11224

It is a point on God as explained in Catholicism.

>>10468

>1. God is Man's highest goal.

Is this Poland's catholic extremism or they mean God in more broad/"spiritual" sense?

>14. Slavic Minorities will be assimilated.

Didn't know this was a thing in Poland.

>A GREATER POLAND TOWARDS FOREIGN NATIONS

Oh okay, that seems to be answer on my first question. It all seems so confusing though. They say that slavic minorities will be assimilated but they are against pangermanism (not telling what would happen to german minorities). Well then what about Silesia? If they mean by creation of eastern christian civilization also other countries in central Europe, then what about sudeten germans, carpathian germans, and so on? As ethnic german from Sudetenland I don't know if I can subscribe to this vision just because it seems not well thought through. They also might confront the same problem as Hitler did, when he realized he will be better off if he would let the people preserve their own culture. German nation and nationalities united can coexist with greater catholic slavia in my opinion but it won't be easy. I hope they will learn from ww2.

>>11338

>14. Slavic Minorities will be assimilated.

Didn't know this was a thing in Poland.

This is 1930s Falanga referring to Ukrainians and Belorussians.

>>11340

Anything “far-right” in Poland always struck me as ultra Catholic and reactionary at best. I like Falanga’s revolutionary rhetoric but one of their associate websites (Xportal) seems pretty Russophile and has a lot of Dugin’s work. I haven’t seen much about Slavic paganism from them, though.

>>11384

I haven’t really heard about the Russophile rhetoric, and I’m not really surprised about the Dugin part since they are allied with nazbol and Eurasian movements. I’m just trying to illustrate in my post that they are much more dedicated to action and politics than just being the polish version of MAGA.

>>4611

Funny enough; it takes two to have an affair. Yeah, she was a slut. So was Matt.

The whole thing played out like an episode of Jerry Springer. I'm sorry, but when the tree rots, it must be cut down.

>>3207

Honestly your partner shouldn’t be involved in the party’s serious actions(maybe besides support at rallies). She should only acknowledge and support you with your politics that’s it. Also there shouldn’t be a dating culture within the party just like you see with cuckservatives, either date someone not involved immediately or don’t date at all

>>4641

The guys responsible for the Charlottesville Auto Show? No. Even if they were a good group, they're so known by now that getting involved would be suicide.

>>11296

I think it’s safe to say that pretty much any American party is filled with a bunch of LARPers. Only legitimate action I’ve seen is in Europe. I think the best course of action is to let the American empire fall and see what is possible afterwards

>>2012

>I heard Heimbach is out of politics for good

Good. We need fewer degenerates in public with anime body pillows

>>11310

There is a lie in almost every single page, do not read. Read Hitler's Revolution if you want a more accurate representation

>>11330

Thanks

Peak fascism

>>11334

Just joined the discord, give me the goddamn ip already!

>Regulated market Capitalism

Why not Corporatism or National Syndicalism?

>>11320

Because OP clearly has no clue what fascism really is.

Speaking of Corporatism, the idea of the domestic corporation sounds interesting. By giving women special representation while also incentivizing motherhood, it could completely undermine feminist attempts at subversion.

>>11326

You mean like guilds for women?