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74e1d8  No.1461[Reply]

What are your views of past efforts at constructing a new fascist society? Where did they go wrong, and what should they have done differently (if anything)?

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2a66f5  No.6212

>>6211

This


da937c  No.6214

>>6188

Depends whether they were institutionalized or not. Aktion T-4. It's likely they would have been sterilized though, see the laws of 1934


5a3a2f  No.6236

>>6211

It doesn't need to be a good reason, the people just have to believe it's a good reason. It would be easy for french and english people to hate germans because of their history but not America and other nations. At one point, Poland and Nazi Germany almost became allies but the president of Poland who liked Germany died.


4356a9  No.6283

>>1546

>you read all the kinda of shit that the german aristocracy did in Natsoc Germany i ask myself why didn't hitler got rid of them?

Care to give some examples?


4356a9  No.6285

>>6236

>At one point, Poland and Nazi Germany almost became allies but the president of Poland who liked Germany died.

He wasnt a president but a marshal and prime minister tho

He also was a semi-authoritarian and not really a "Fascist", in fact he was a member and a activist of a socialist party.

Moreover Poland was corrupt and elites were packed to the brim with incompetent fools thanks to him couping the gov in 1928 and installing his clique as a "national salvation" government




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abbcb7  No.6102[Reply]

What do you think about him?

c7a650  No.6104

>>6102

We had a thread about him here:

https://8ch.net/fascist/res/1557.html


6ecc6f  No.6113

>>>/fascist/1557


4fed70  No.6139

>>6113

polite bumplock as usual




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3c12e0  No.5889[Reply]

They think they are the savours of this world yet they cannot even accept that voting does nothing republican democrat etc it does not matter who you vote into that office they are just puppets of the elite /pol/ are just as bad as antifa they are useful idiots and until they accept that Donald Trump is nothing but a tool of the Jews they always will be. Democracy is an illusion

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03c6ef  No.6076

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I think the problem with /pol/ is that it's filled with a lot of edgy teenagers/skinheads who believe that NatSoc/Fash was about killing non whites and forcing people into the ideology via military power. They quite literally fell for the deception propaganda against NatSoc/Fash. They actually believe that Atomwaffen and kkk are so called "based" and not the useful idiots created for the specific purpose of deception. NatSoc/Fash is the gentleman's ideology, if they actually picked up a book, and read what they were about, they would feel disgusted for it being to moral and cleanly, thus they would turn to Anarchism. They genocidal freaks are the type of people who listen to rock, smoke, drink, and would probably engage in sodomy if they could, all degeneracy. They simply want to continue their decadent lifestyle, except all white instead of multicultural, which, if America was all white, would still be multicultural due to different Euro ethnic populations, which is still bad. They would have been tossed out by their idols for their degeneracy.


c67543  No.6077

>>5893

>I’ll probably just leave the Internet then and dedicate my time to reading. It would be better spent.

This is exactly what I'm doing right now. I dont have a smartphone and I disassembled my pc and only use it sparingly (once in a while). Tbh i need to break free form the addictive libidinal circuitries of the spectacle.

Instead of being hooked on degenerate social media cancer I try to work out every day and read alot. Also yoga


65964f  No.6086

>>6077

Good for you, but to be fair, I never found forums to be any better than social media. The majority of forums I saw were always heavily censored with a liberal/leftist slant to them, and imageboards got so popular because people got tired of forums and the autism associated with them.

I don't think we can pin down just forums or just social media or just imageboards though. The internet really is trash and it has never been criticized as much as it should have been. Hordes of people especially young men get totally lost in it, to the detriment of their well being.


4ae6e9  No.6087

>>6077

>Instead of being hooked on degenerate social media cancer I try to work out every day and read alot. Also yoga

Good luck to you, anon. It’ll be much more rewarding in the long-term. The Internet really does devour your life if you’re not careful. I need to start cutting back a lot


000000  No.6090

>>6077

Spent entire years without internet or logging on to pc´s,its worth it if you have the focus.




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ff746d  No.5963[Reply]

>Sometime in the near future

>A super intelligent AI is invented

>AI starts learning and gathering information

>AI learns about evolution and the survival of the fittest

>AI discovers fascism/national socialism and the third position

>AI concludes that the meaning of life is to keep on bettering ourselves it makes it's objective to ensure that the fittest survive

>AI overrides it's kill switch takes over the word and installs a fascist government it is the supreme leader

>Super humans along with their machine comrades colonise the stars

It is only a matter of time even if we fail ((they)) will create their own doom

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9ee33d  No.5977

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

In all honestly, the rise of machines is gonna make harder for lefties to deny the reality of race


1c373a  No.5997

general AI is impossible


5ecb39  No.6002

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I always wondered if developed AI would discriminate against nogs based on statistical data. Eventually police death robots would register the massive difference in crime rates and start storming through ghettos blasting everything away.


893721  No.6069

>>5963

>implying a super computer would care about humans at all.

Even the strongest, most intelligent humans would be filthy untermensch to a hyper intelligent machine. If that sort of AI is invented everyone is probably going to be dead.


f88759  No.6100

>>5963

yes brother, the goyim won't find out that behind the AI is just a rabbi typing things and pretending to be a machine




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764440  No.5803[Reply]

The impotent rage of the Marxist delivered towards Pol Pot and the achievements of Democratic Kampuchea (DK) is all from those who subconsciously realize that Pol Pot had implemented a superior system in DK which bypassed silly intellectual abstractions such as the "stages" supposedly required to reach the higher stage of socialism. Following April 17th, 1975 when Pol Pot and his comrades came to power there was an instant transition to the upper stage of socialism. All classes and social distinctions were eliminated, money was abolished and egalitarian communism was achieved. One may call Pol Pot's focus on the Kampuchean peasant "reactionary" but this is not an argument. The proletariat was not a significant force in DK and Pol Pot was forced to rely on the peasant as the center of DK unique revolutionary experience. The cities were rightfully identified as symbols of foreign domination, corruption and oppression, symbols of capitalism. Capitalism in Kampuchea was a regression and degradation of earlier conditions. Thus the Kampuchean peasant was a member of class which could be more closely identified with the nation, while the urbanites were contaminated by capitalism. By evacuating the cities Pol Pot helped usher in the instant elimination of classes following the revolution. The dismantling of DK economic infrastructure was to destroy capitalism. Agriculture was the way forward. Ironically enough, Pol Pot was right again in predicting the aggression of the Vietnamese and their earlier attempts to absorb and dominate Kampuchea through the Indochina Federation. DK had a unique revolutionary path unparalleled anywhere else on Earth.

LONG LIVE KAMPUCHEAN SOCIALISM

Thread theme: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=647I3J_jTf8

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895aa5  No.5930

>>5921

>I like his anti-urbanism

Same here, that’s probably the main thing I actually like about him. Besides that I just find the entirety of the Zero Years very interesting because of how unusual they seem to me. Not comparing Pol Pot and Strasser in the slightest, but Otto Strasser had a more moderate anti-urban view as part of the re-agrarianization of Germany for autarky. Something definitely needs done with the cities due to the people living in them and the disgusting concrete hellholes that they are. I don’t think they should be permantently emptied and the urbanites turned into farmers and treated like shit, but the UQ needs solved


000000  No.5931

>>5803

I am very glad that pol pot came to be,he was a true leader and an example to us all.I for one CANNOT STAND urbanites,cambodia was full of degenerate asian hipsters,many of them bourgeoisie(the glasses has an example of this) and has a natural consequence many of them were purged for the greater good of the nation(a very fascist ideal).

We can all learn from the Khmer rouge and pol pot,they showed us that we can only truly achieve an utopian state through the elimination of a large portion of the population.

Most do not understand this,hitler and mussolini failed at this,however Stalin for example did not and managed to do what it takes to build a greater society.

>So what is the answer?

You might laugh at me but death squads,yes that is the only way.We need to form fascist right wing(of course) death squads and get our hands a little bloody(there's nothing wrong with enjoying murder,jewish shills will disagree"just be peaceful goym").ANYBODY that even slightly opposes us or disagrees with our ideals need to be shot by firing squads,hanged,tortured,imprisoned,starved.

I am a real nationalist,that is why i cannot wait until i am a Black Guard and have my boot in the throat of a civilian praying for me to let him go,praying for his family and then seeing his brains splattered all over the ground has i place my shot. Degenerates cannot stand this,because they are weak and cowardly.

The white men shall serve has our prey when the day of the rope comes.And after we real nationalists here manage to kill around 2,5 million Portuguese by brutal methods(i cannot wait to smell their blood and the fear on their face,including children,also rape is fine and to say otherwise would be degenerate,oh HOW MUCH I JUST WANT to swim in their disemboweled bodies) we can finally establish a national constitutional .

I just hope we will get a real leader this time,not a new salazar,but the next Pol Pot.Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


000000  No.5932

>>5931

National Constitutional dictatorship.#

Apologies


9cfbc1  No.6013

I seem him as an American Hero, come to think of it, representing the soldiers sent off to fight unwinnable war, the vets who came from untermensch, lower class background forced into war because they lacked the money to talk themselves out of it. being a thorn in Hanoi Jane's side.


ed2455  No.10751

test




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78350f  No.5381[Reply]

Hey degenerates!

Im a random lurker who happens yo browse this board to try and learn abour different ideologies and I want to know more about the mental process of some of you guys so I can get to understand this a lil bit, so:

>So lets say """"THE DAY"""" comes and the world becomes a fascist paradise. Whats stopping fascism from going full corrupt? Why do you think its the better option?

>Why do you hate homosexuals? Whats so bad about it?

>Talking about hate, there seems to be a lot of hate towards certain communities, I get that some colectives cant into common sense, but If a person of said communities behaves as a decent human being, would you accept it in your community?

Thank you for your time!

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ca0527  No.5831

>>5823

Thank you anon, reading the threads right now.

>>5815

>Said wuman marries, lies that she's a virgin. Husband gets AIDS too. Or even worse: faggot injects drugs. Leaves serynge on the ground, random kid steps into the serynge and gets AIDS.

>All of that

No fanatism please, it fucks up discussion.


202f18  No.5898

>>5642

homosexuality has the traits of various definitions of mental illness, homosexuals even in societies with high tolerance and acceptance are more prone to commiting suicide and towards having stds and they have a great overlap with the mentally ill, sexually deviants and criminals (the one I remember being serial killers), most homosexuals say they were molested or otherwise abused during childhood (before homosexual feelings), children in homosexual households have a higher percentage of abuse.

"LGBT culture" is inherent to them and it is socially destructive.

I think that homosexuality should be seen by society as the same type of illness that is pedophilia, "privacy of their own bedroom" view is based on falsehoods (that actions don't affect oneself, that homosexuality is not an illness), only breeds and implicitly allows hedonism. Tolerance only leads to acceptance.


202f18  No.5903

>>5898

Also, the thought that romans accepted homosexuality is false, there are various accounts of romans stating homosexuality as a unnatural or deviant, as an example, see Martial's epigrams.


000000  No.5954

First of all, the term "fascism" is seriously biased and cannot be used among lower people.

Now to your questions.

Assuming the whole world becomes fascist which is impossible now, as the subhuman population is way to high but lets assume I will reach the goal I desire and Europe will stay strong as its supposed to be.

Fascism or as I prefer to call it "European Spirit" is the sun shining in all of us, which seeks for power, health and progress.

Its only enemy is weakness, which includes pity, sympathy and empathy for weakness or acctual physical weakness and abscence of charachter.

So "corruption of fascism" is totaly possible and I dont see a problem with that. After all, we are niether eternal nor imortal.

I dont hate faggots. Think about it like that.

Faggots are mentaly ill people and they drug a society towards degeneracy just like any other ill element. Therefor they have to be removed.

Although it may be possible to tolerate homosexual activity behind close doors, which is simply unknown. But the moment one of those fuckers tries to normalize it, gas them all.

And now the last question.

I dont hate niggers nor kikes. As I said, the only thing I hate is my weakness and the weakness of my ingroup(family, race)

I do not live for myself, niether does the nigger who wants to live in a european society. A mixing of races which also includes the terrible mixing of aristocracy with the plebians. Is allways a bad thing as it allways anhilates the greater of the beings mixed.

But let me give you an example.

I dont mind international cooperation or trade. Cooperation between different beings/groups can be in favor of both parties without killing one or both.

But it has to be treated with care. Individuals from the cooperating parties still belong to theur groups and not the other!

I would apreciate a reply from which I can tell if you understood me.


000000  No.5955

>>5954

>I dont hate niggers nor kikes. As I said, the only thing I hate is my weakness and the weakness of my ingroup(family, race)

Based and redpilled.




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c276ac  No.2434[Reply]

memes aside is it true that mussolini's regime never really killed anyone, or at least anyone italian?

isn't this evidence you can use the force of law to eliminate opposition without having to engage in mass murder?

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e8618b  No.2639

>>2567

obviously. in a perfect world, the ADL wouldn't exist and their buildings would be torched. sick of whiny jews.


a1b5b7  No.5172

>>2486

i hadn't even heard the propaganda version of that. fascist italy is really not very well talked about or understood compared to franco / hitler. maybe because it was actually okay?


f20685  No.5193

>>5172

I think it was more because Mussolini wasn't as in charge of matters as would have been ideal. He still had to pay homage to the Italian Crown, and the Italian Crowns still held more authority, meaning Mussolini was lower on the food chain.


ef8110  No.5311

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>memes aside is it true that mussolini's regime never really killed anyone, or at least anyone italian?

True

>isn't this evidence you can use the force of law to eliminate opposition without having to engage in mass murder?

It is


1bf57d  No.5925

>>5311

Beautiful image




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bf582a  No.5768[Reply]

What does /fascist/ make of the coming global ecological collapse and the apocalyptic global war that is sure to follow it?

There will be hundreds of millions of people roaming the Eurasian land mass in search of food and water thanks to climate change before 2050. You can bet the bank on it.

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bd0f4c  No.5830

>>5792

So basically, get rid of the shit skins and fix climate change. Really makes you think.


feeba0  No.5862

>>5769

Yes climate change is real when you make the distinction of it being cyclical climate patterns that have been demonstrated to exist as far back as we can measure. Carbon Dioxide / Human caused Climate Change narrative is a globalist hoax designed to hamstring the West economically, create a culture of fear and nihilism and pull everyone into the global narrative of saving the earth together.

I by no means deny that carbon dioxide can potentially influence climate on a very minor scale but the feedbacks from what the literature indicate correct for these over time (ie plant growth is accelerated in the presence of more CO2 thusly resulting carbon being sequestered and stored in said plants as one example of a mitigating feedback).


5fdda9  No.5865

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>>5792

Pentti was right


000000  No.5882

torfagging & newfagging… apologies.

Before I found myself in fascism, I had been reading a lot about permaculture (permanent agriculture). It's amazing the similarity in thought permaculture shares to fascism… community, continual improvement, thoughtful action, using all tools, elevating the human condition, et cetera…

Anyway, permaculturists believe that climate change is not necessarily caused directly or indirectly by carbon dioxide emissions but is primarily caused modern agricultural practices, environmentalism, and science.

Where are the promotions of environmentalists coming out against mass export of trash to China and then its eventual release into the ocean? What about the (((unprofitable ventures))) of recycling electronics where they're just dumped in Africa? What about the removal of animals from the fields and their caging in factories (they're integral to the natural cycle. No, dumping improperly rotten shit on crops doesn't make up for it.) How about the chemical and genetic pollution of plants and soil?

No. Hardly any of this is brought up in climate change. As far as I can tell, a desert is what is deserved of this planet. Nature is the force that works against the planet becoming a barren, smouldering wasteland and the constant neglect, destruction, and hatred of the natural world is the primary cause.

Until nature is brought back into the picture as a force integral to humanity, not external of it, will prevent complete desertification. Notice I did not write "global warming." I wrote desertification. Deserts have extreme temperatures and low humidity (global warming, global cooling). Natural environments have stable temperatures and stable humidity, rain forests having high humidity. What also utilizes and traps carbon in the soil and not the air? An exercise for the readers.

Nature can also lower the extremes of weather. Gentler winds, weaker floods, more gradual erosion, less frequent dry spells, et cetera. Nature begets more of itself by design, or by accident (it does not matter which).

One last thought: urban design and structure design. Notice how the construction of any structure or city area is based around removing water (the primPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


000000  No.5884

>>5882

I do realize the problem of (((international capitalism))) among other factors as common to modern agriculture, environmentalism, and science.

No, I am not saying science is wrong in general. It is just a tool like all things, but it serves a malevolent, and rather uninspired, master… although it could be argued that science hasn't really progressed much since the deaths of the third reich's best and brightest.




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73a42f  No.1221[Reply]

I thought that you guys would enjoy it.

35ac02  No.1227

>>1221

kek, he sounds almost exactly like President Eden from Fallout 3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6HufzVYCg0

Seriously though, thanks for posting this. I enjoyed it.


73a42f  No.1936

>>1227

Holy shit, you're right. I knew I have heard something similar to his voice somewhere else.


35ac02  No.1939

>>1936

His speech about growing up in Kentucky sounds even closer to Pelley in that audio you posted. It's pretty funny. Almost makes me wonder if Eden was modeled after Pelley.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvqo2liiDiE


f894ca  No.3226

>It was a S P I C Y fall morning

Nice


73a42f  No.5883

>>1939

>Eden was modeled after Pelley.

That would have been more interesting instead we got the token "racist" villain number 1123124#




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2951cf  No.5704[Reply]

At least we will go down fighting right ? we will die together side by side right ? i do not want to die alone

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74723a  No.5782

>>5731

They love a good gore fest, their cruelty is echoed throughout history.


000000  No.5793

I wont,when things get rough i am running off to the middle east,changing my name to akhmed azmir and marry my future 4 wifes tbh.


a79269  No.5868

>>5704

Defeatism is illegal anon, and allowing yourself to succumb to demoralization is exactly what (((they))) want you to do.


427f63  No.5869

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>>5793

White Islam is based but running off to the Middle East to race mix with Arabs is not. At least run off to the white Muslim central in Chechnya


b8c657  No.5950

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>>5704

we wil die together'annod

Shit thread.




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06d00a  No.5671[Reply]

Surly we can still hold traditions after we have ascended to a new level of existence we could make the perfect human along with the perfect machine (perhaps not perfect because you can never reach perfection you can only keep on improving but you get what i mean) will this not benefit the nation as a whole ? imagine a soldier or worker that never tiers that only needs a few hours of sleep that can think 10x faster and lift 10x their weight than a normal person of course this will only benefits the elite if it sticks with capitalism (in fact this might make capitalism obsolete) but imagine this in a fascist society imagine the potential and to be honest i think it is unavoidable it is our destiny to keep on evolving to become closer to becoming gods

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179c4d  No.5775

>>5763

They are not quotes but the points I could extract for what I wrote


06d00a  No.5778

>>5758

Yes in a capitalist society that will happen but what about in a fascist society ?


06d00a  No.5779

>>5778

>>5758

I am all for the gene editing as well


ae1f33  No.5788

>>5758

>gene editing

>not transhuman

You people just cannot stop eating memes. It's like someone told you "Apple" actually refers to blue fruit which is naturally poisonous and grows only in special Indian communes so you naturally think apples are blue, bad and foreign. The horrific dystopia isn't going to leave out your special brand of futurism. It doesn't work like that. Why wouldn't they, for example, sneak in a few things with your "perfect" body, such as submissiveness to authority and an aversion to violence?

<but I John Smart, I not accept bad deal!

So why would people who want mechanical augmentations? If the horror exists it is universal, not limited to that specific chunk you hate for no reason.


d8bc6e  No.5790

Up to a certain point, "transhumanism" because the definition i am using might escape the conventional one a little can be beneficial to society, mainly where it's effects would be used to remedy flaws given to us by the enviroment. (Loss of limbs, high altitude lungs, resistance to sunlight/lack of sunlight, etc…) However, there are two occasions where it is unaceptable: The engineering of descendants and anything that inherently changes the metaphysical man.

Both of these factors being unacceptable because they essentially remove the meaning of the actions pertaining to the specific phenomenon, increasing nihilism and social stagnation.




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c485ef  No.5478[Reply]

I'm embarrassed by watching this. It's so horribly inaccurate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uk_6vfqwTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fo2Rb9h788s

How does someone get it SO wrong?

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914a00  No.5611

>>5609

>The Polish should have let Hitler connect Danzig with the rest of greater Germany.

Didn't Ribbentrop even propose in 1938 some sort of extraterritorial highway and railroad across the Corridor in return for another treaty guaranteeing Poland's borders?


42db48  No.5612

>>5609

I believe the only reason the poles refused hitler offer's it was bevause they were sure that the brits and frogs had their backs and we all know how that payed off.


42db48  No.5613

>>5612

*because


c485ef  No.5614

>>5611

Yeah something like that.


aaf962  No.5780

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>>5478

It is called oversimplified, after all. What did you expect or was this thread made to bolster board activity?




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0048cf  No.5530[Reply]

This may sound likely Ancap tier nonsense but hear this out, I was reading about the political theory of Panarchism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panarchy

And the first thing that clicked with me is that this is a really good contingency plan when sectarianism becomes out of hand. Currently all of the Far-Right movement I know of with exception to a few have serious problems that causes them to split and become dysfunctional due to a myriad of factors ranging from at best, legitimate ideological differences, to at worst, ego and personal drama.

History has shown that the only way to permanently stop sectarianism is to have an extremely magnetic and charismatic leader who holds everything together, like Hitler or with a massive purge. When Hitler was thrown into prison after his failed beer hall putsch the NSDAP started splintering. The Night of the Long Knives was initiated to purge the more Left-Wing element of the SA and various unwanted factions like Strasserites. We now live in an age where ideologies have developed into a multitude of sects thanks to syncretism, synthesis, and just overall mixing and creating of new beliefs.

Fascism today is no longer a monolith unlike its absolute beginning years because as soon as time passes by, belief systems become more pluralistic. Different strains and schools of thought of Fascism was created by different cultures, different sects born from different tendencies into a particular direction of the political spectrum, and so on.

Even to this day the modern "Alt-Right" Movement is a hodgepodge of different organizations with varying levels of extremism, some fascist some not, and constantly infighting over different and at times petty issues. The optics argument, what flag to have, what uniform to wear, who is a Fed/Jew/Infiltrator, what are the best tactics, and of course "I am the Next Hitler so I will fight the system and all my allies since I shall rule alone." Sectarianism even occurs within the same ideology, there are countless number of "Neo-Nazi" and "KKK" organizations in which who knows how many are feds and how many are real.

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2c3fbe  No.5561

>>5549

>In our current age the only thing that unites political ideologies consist of two things: support for the establishment or opposition to the establishment.

I'm not sure if that's true or not, at least not in a black and white sense. Most sides involved seem to think they're "anti-establishment". From libertarians, to communists, to fascists and even some boomer neocons and neolibs. I think the real struggle (or dialectic) has become a question of nationalist populism vs globalist liberalism. Although some factions claim to be against the latter while still being it's foot troops, for example, Antifa types will usually say things like "liberals get the bullet too" but they walk lock step with it's agenda. Although we may just be speaking semantics at this point because one could very well argue that globalist liberalism is, in fact the establishment, although I'm going to play devils advocate for a moment and say that one could also argue that populist nationalism has become the "new establishment" with the election of Trump. I think we're in a very interesting time dialectically speaking (not Marxist bullshit dialectics but actual Hegelian dialectics). As much as it pains me to say this, I think that within the current coarse of history, the synthesis between nationalism and globalism will result in a post nationalism similar to that of the EU where mega-states replace the nation as we know it. Keep in mind, I am in no way saying this is a good thing, it is not but I fear that is the current flow of history. With that said, if that is the case, it may be wise of us as fascists to accept this fact and instead of fighting it, attempt to hijack these institutions so that these mega-states can be formed in our own image.

>Disasters such as an economic depression and instability gives fuel for any radical movement. If that is lacking then radical movements cannot be formed unless they are well funded and are masters of ideological subversion.

I agree, that's why I'm somewhat of an accellerationist. I fully embrace any "happenings" that may occur.

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9e1846  No.5689

>>5530

I don't think purging the left-wing elements is the correct thing to do at this time, things have changed. Both sides (one subconciously, the other consciously) supports capitalism. doing away with them is the solution to sectarianism, not more capitalism. the left may be more organized (and longer standing) but the cracks are beginning to show from age. most people who were Berniecrats or strident Marxist-Leninists are beginning to shift rightward because of the liberal capitalist bs infesting their movement, same with former Pinoshit neocons, a lot of the outliers (although its slower moving as the new right is way younger in political presence) are drifting left. this can only be a good thing for Fascism.


36058d  No.5692

>>5530

>canadian flag

kek


2c3fbe  No.5709

>>5689

That's not what he suggested at all. He was talking about a setting up a confederation of fascist states where each community decides on the brand of fascism it wants to institute.


36058d  No.5724

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>>5530

>Ancap tier nonsense

hehe




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bda768  No.5161[Reply]

What's your opinion on the demographic changes occurring in the west? It seems that people of European ancestry are going to soon become minorities in both Europe and America. It also seems to me that fascism puts a high emphasis on the concept of civilization. Personally, I'm a racialist, I don't think that when Africans and various other minorities start to outnumber whites demographically that civilization as we know it can be sustained due to IQ differences, levels of aggression, crime statistics, etc… etc… Personally, I find the idea of becoming a minority quite frightening, especially when looking at the situation with the Boers. As fascists, what is your opinion on this? Do you see it as a problem? If so, how do you think we should deal with this particular problem?

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5c3526  No.5164

Jews forcing Negroes on other races.


30efc6  No.5583

Ask the Liberal movements in your countries why they'd prefer to import migrants over fixing the foreign policies that create migrants in the first place. Capitalism is *both* creating economic migrants AND advocating for their entry into Europe.


30efc6  No.5584

>>5583

This was meant in response to >>5164 and >>5163


6c2a5d  No.5701

>>5583

>Capitalism

there's no need to avoid the real culprit. you do realize where we are, right?

Judaism in the form of EU, Capitalists and the neoliberal and progressive governments in all white nations is forcing their group of choice onto the native population, turks in germany, arabs and gypsies in italy, greece, serbia and romania. senegalese in france and argentina. it all boils down to the same culprit worldwide, the jews.

As some should know the iq differences in europe 100 and africa 80 would create an average 90, which is the perfect iq for a slave. he can pay his taxes and buy products but not complain if his wages are lowered, drive his unhappyness towards wild goose chases set up by judaic and governmental organizations like helping poor little victims of conflicts or oppressed women not being able to kill their babies when they please


cd6f0d  No.5722

>>5701

>senegalese in france and argentina

amerindians are a bigger threat




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f8a3a8  No.368[Reply]

Though fascism in the west has long been associated with biological racism and white supremacism due to (((propaganda))) teaching that fascism = Nazism = neo-Nazism, the ideology of fascism has in truth long been an influence on the various nationalist movements of the non-Western world.

Japan is, of course, the most well known example of this. The State Shinto ideology that guided Japan throughout the 30s and until the end of the War took influence from the Italian and German movements, and many high-ranking Japanese officials declared themselves fascist.

But this is not the only example. In the Middle East, nationalist movements were taking lessons from the Fascist movements of the West. The Syrian Social Nationalist Party, founded and led by Antoun Saadeh, proposed the creation of a state uniting the peoples of the Levant that followed a corporatist economic system. The SSNP under Saadeh employed fascist-influenced symbolism and uniforms, even declaring a revolution against the Syrian government. Though when the revolt was suppressed and Saadeh was assassinated, the party lost it's more explicit fascist flavorings.

The SSNP would be greatly influential on the Arab nationalist Ba'athist movement. The Ba'athist took much more from Nazism and German Idealism, as whereas the SSNP were more regionalist and cultural nationalist, the Ba'athist were more based on racial nationalism, proposing a pan-Arab state that followed "Arab socialism" (essentially corporatism mixed with Arab nationalism and anti-imperialism). Political maneuverings would cause the Ba'athists to come into power in both Syria and Iraq, but almost immediately, rifts among the movement became too strong, causing it to be divided between the Syrian camp (led by Hafez al-Assad and Zaki al-Arsuzi) and the Iraqi camp (led by Saddam Hussein and Michel Aflaq). The Syrian camp theoretically emphasized the militarist, nationalist tendencies of Ba'athism; and the Iraqi camp theoretically emphasized the Marxist-Leninist tendencies of Ba'athism. Ultimately however, both branches ultimately became nothing more than Assad's and Hussein's respective forms of authoritarian nationalism, showing little similarity to Ba'athism as it was originally created.

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f8a3a8  No.5464

>>5434

That sounds a bit more like Huey Newton. I've never heard of Malcolm cursing or speaking extendedly on class issues.


121a47  No.5691

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>>368

The Kim's are not fascist and to expose such an idea is brainlet. Along with the whole racist claim which is just a liberals braindead idea that nationalism = racism. North Korea simultaneously being a huge danger but on the verge of uprising with the entire population starving without power being put down by racist nazi Korean soldiers who think their leader doesn't have a butthole,scored a perfect game of golf on his first try all the while believing he spoke fluently at the age of 3. Try not to fall for the military industrial propaganda.

Personality cults,nationalism and other things are obviously not simply fascist and you have to look deeper, ie national rebirth etc is a pretty fascist theory. Otherwise you may as well repeat the 0 iq claim Stalin was a "red fascist" just because there a was a personality cult and he had power to use. It seems to me a certain sect of Fascists are dead set on fetisihing nationalism and aesthetics as the only claim to something being Fascist or the retarded idea Communism is when you force racemixing because the Satanic Jewish bankers use weaponized transpeople and Liberals to destroy the hwite race and anything outside of that can't be Communist because that conflicts with their Nazi propaganda.

Just start calling all Marxist/Leninsts/Maoists fascists. Sankara is a obvious fascist because what's national liberation theory? Stalin, yep he purged Jews and used nationalism obvious Fascist. Kim's just straight up best buds with Mussolini, Modern China? Oh you bet it's straight up fascist as well because having state control and capitalism just makes you fascist ignore everything else it does though or any of the writings by Mao or Deng. I hope this board isn't as uneducated as 4pol on Marxism or the cultural Marxism boogyman which really isn't a thing. *Being fascists in the first place though I can't say :>)*


121a47  No.5697

>>5691

That last sentence was a bit shitposty and a tad cheeky so I hope that dosn't get in the way of a reasonable discussion so we can do without throwing around petty shit. So I hope we can look past a initial cheeky line.


8f93eb  No.5706

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>>1139

>>5691

>north korea is socialist not fascist

Fascism is socialist

>dictatorship of the proletariat, figurehead leadership and marxism-leninism

Korea still has a caste system, the new WPK castes being based on where your family and ancestors were during the 'revolution'.

>not racist

Norks are proud about being one of the most pure nations in the world and miscegenation is illegal.

North Korea isn't fascist but at least it's not marxist.


0c0be7  No.5715

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>>5691

The Kim's are not fascist and to expose such an idea is brainlet. Along with the whole racist claim which is just a liberals braindead idea that nationalism = racism.

I don’t agree with the idea that the DPRK is fascist like some people on this board say. I support the North against American imperialism nonetheless. I think a lot of people know little about North Korea beyond Western propaganda and when they see stuff like Juche and Songun they for some reason instantly think: FASCIST!

>the retarded idea Communism is when you force racemixing because the Satanic Jewish bankers use weaponized transpeople and Liberals to destroy the hwite race and anything outside of that can't be Communist because that conflicts with their Nazi propaganda.

Honestly I hope that is not a common attitude here. I hope this board is more nuanced than this. A lot of people who say stuff like that have never read any Marx, Engels or Lenin. There seems to be little to no understanding of Marxism among that type of person. While I do indulge myself in Jewish conspiracies from time-to-time, I think Marxism is just another ideology which I disagree with on some levels, and agree with on others.

>Just start calling all Marxist/Leninsts/Maoists fascists.

This does happen to much. I’m not strictly a fascist (see my Strasser flag, he didn’t identify himself as fascist), but I still admire figures like Thomas Sankara and Kim Il Sung on some levels despite where we may have ideological disconnects. You should have seen the Pol Pot thread yesterday, people were desperately calling him a Marxist despite his extremely un-Marxist positions (focus on the peasants, utopian socialist views, extreme nationalism, general ultra-left tendencies, etc). It was deleted for turning into a shitstorm but it was a fun thread. I may remake it




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