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55576c  No.4510[Reply]

Okay /fascist/ I think it is time to have the "talk" regarding Ideological Sectarianism. This board is young so its future is truly up for grabs. The BO split from /pol/ because /pol/ was an unbearable circlejerk with zero real ideological discussions on anything related to the Third Position and Fascism. Consequently, this would likely make this board more akin to /leftypol/ in their culture, not a place of circlejerks but likely one of ideological sectarianism and infighting precisely because the discussion of opposing Fascist Sects is encouraged.

Let's have a short history lesson, Fascism had a considerably shorter time of existence in comparison to its rivals the Far-Left. The Far-Left has a long history of organizing and consequently experience a large amount of Sectarianism and Infighting over tiny issues. The Fascist world dominated, some parts, in the 1930s-1945. After WWII the glory days ended with some holdouts such as in Spain and Portugal until the mid Cold War.

From then until today, few Fascist groups exist today. The ones that do exist are usually ineffective and suffers from infighting. I predict that ideological sectarianism would be the norm here the more fascist start popping up. Do you think the Fascist movement will be saved from Sectarian tendencies? When Hitler was put in jail the NSDAP split without him, only he reunited it after release. Without a figure like him, sectarianism is a very likely reality.

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a8cade  No.4697

Modern real life Fascist groups that are solid:

-Golden Dawn

-Nordic Resistance Movement

They're all that's left tbh

801830  No.4705


I'd never heard of them before. It's cool to see some of the people in that video marching with Black Front flags. Their program is decent too. I was going to translate some points but it's too long for me to feel like doing now. Here's the link though. It's a shame Wikipedia says they only have ~500 members


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801830  No.4716


CasaPound is pretty good, I think. Though I’ve seen some negative remarks about them here in other threads, mostly due to their positions on homosexuality and abortion.

e75f82  No.4720


Casa Povnd is a little bit punkish, but they are what every movement should aspire to be. They actually do shit and have created a pretty strong presence

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203d68  No.2864[Reply]

This was a small point of discussion back in fascist Italy.

I presume both D'Annunzio fans and other Fascists can argue around this point but what do you think about futurism and it's role in a fascist movement?

Althought the movement I support had an overwhelming support for the "traditional" style of art and the concept of artistic development I am interested in knowing your guy's opinions.

I do believe however that we all agree with this quote from Mussolini:

"I declare that it is far from my idea to encourage anything like a state art. Art belongs to the domain of the individual. The state has only one duty: not to undermine art, to provide humane conditions for artists, to encourage them from the artistic and national point of view."

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9fa1fc  No.3336

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I don't know man, I just like really fast anti-gravity racing machines. Would be slick for them to become a thing, although F1-cucks would get extremely jelly. Also I like futuristic aesthetic, specially the bright and white good kind of futurism.

ef3d6b  No.3369

There has to be a cut-off point. Transhumanism will lead to the annihilation of humanity, for example. The consumption of rare metals for high electronics will never be sustainable. Futurist branches are a modern thing, where man has been able to live traditionally since 4000BC and before, for example. There's a lot to consider and if you take it all in, futurism isn't worth it.

7c018e  No.3370


There was an interesting thread in /pol/ about the this same thing give me some time, I must have the archive somewhere

0cef2c  No.4646


Whilst I err on the side of tradition I honestly don't know and I do have views that fall on the complete opposite end of the spectrum to many traditionalists.

I wouldn't describe myself as transhumanist but I personally support the usage of means including performance enhancing drugs, nootropics and genetic engineering to create superhumans or at least some sort of super soldiers. I know Hitler's Germany was big on some of this and Hitler himself supposedly injected testosterone and used stimulants but in discussion with modern fascists (and especially those also identifying as traditionalist or conservative) seems to be that this sort of "human enhancement" is not something fascists support. I've personally experimented with some steroids and nootropics and think it's something that could benefit our movement (both support by the fascist movement and usage by fascists). There's a world of difference between performance enhancing drugs and degenerate recreational drugs.

f6a54a  No.4652

This is a perplexing dichotomy, even more so when you take in account capitalism, which makes the situation a trichotomy; or an aspect futurism minded. The old family owned cottage industries and the large feudal estates eventually gave way to urban stratification. Able bodied men moved where the money went, so the family (which used to be extended) became atomised; thus creating the nuclear family. Further along we have gone with rapid marketing being pioneered by Bernays, and now people think very individually. I noticed that people have also felt a lot more lonelier too. Technology plays a role in and goes hand in hand with capitalism (though not always, ex. immigrants staving off automation), so one has to think where our subversion lies. Well, beyond the nose behind the curtain anyways. Businesses always push diversity. And, even if we lived in radically unrestrained free market, I don't think that would change. There would probably be a lot more brown people though.

I remembered talking to a NatSoc friend about artificial wombs and transhumanism. We concluded that we couldn't rationally justify despising homosexuals if they could reproduce without women using that technology. It's a disturbing thought. However, I still largely lean on the futurist despite that. I always liked the idea of a new man in a new era. I would say that archeo-futurism is an ideal, but I don't know how applicable that would be. Evola's traditionalism or Aristotle's ideal society I question much the same for applicability. Perhaps even futurism if any sort of cataclysmic environmental disaster like resource shortages or global warming happens.

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8426e8  No.1000[Reply]


long live /fascist/

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b56b28  No.1055


Kek saved

cd880e  No.3862


can proudly say I've been here since 300

a4cac3  No.3864


I don't know the exact post number but I know I've been here since damn near the beginning.

cd880e  No.3868


I remember being v& on cuckchan for b8ing a humor thread and going to /dir/ to check out any new politics board, this is how I came across /fascist&

e59c7f  No.4616

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Forgot where I found this.

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fb8342  No.4130[Reply]

This may be a simplistic question as the extent of my knowledge of the Spanish economy is Wikipedia, but I'm curious. Given the experience in the US I've become sharply anti free trade. So what happened in Spain before the economic miracle? Was it really that bad? How was the cost of living before and after? My experience with free trade is that we get lots of cheap plastic trash, but important things like housing and food get relatively more expensive because wages don't keep up. So what was the case in Franco's Spain?

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8312b7  No.4401


Before opening up trade?

5611c3  No.4407

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He would have done a better job

dca287  No.4409

8312b7  No.4417


Can you elaborate?

be4f78  No.4551


Learn the difference, mexican are one thing and spaniards are other thing. They are completely different. I dont know why Americans talk about things they dont know.

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8852e7  No.3813[Reply]

Anti-humanists and populists on the extremes of the American political spectrum find common cause attacking the norms of the liberal establishment of progressive plutocrats

>Behind the convulsions and confusion of the Western political landscape there is an unspoken alliance between two seemingly hostile camps. Populists and anti-humanists have entered into an ad hoc coalition in their fight against the liberal establishment. For now, at least, the people lovers and the people loathers have found common cause.

>In the framework of overlaid populist and anti-humanist movements, many of the most baffling events of the past few years start to make sense. “There are a lot of killers. You think our country’s so innocent?” asked Donald Trump, channeling Noam Chomsky, of the disgraced Fox host Bill O’Reilly in 2016. While the alt-right adopted the style and attitudes of the left-wing counterculture, mainstream Democrats adopted slogans of 1950s Republicans and launched their own Cold War-style campaign against sweeping, sinister Russian subversion of domestic political institutions and the national fiber. Crosscurrents of populism and anti-humanism are running through evangelical support for Trump, progressive puritanism, liberals defending an FBI-led “resistance,” Sean Hannity’s crush on Julian Assange, Steve Bannon calling himself a “conservative Leninist,” as well as the resurgence of marginal strains of Stalinism, Maoism, Third Position fascism, National Bolshevism, and assorted political cults flickering throughout a social-media driven attention economy operating on the rubble of the liberal establishment’s journalism wing.

>What the newly emboldened defenders of Western liberal democracy are unwilling to admit is that the populist threat to liberalism is not the invention of malevolent outsiders or a white identity movement—though both are real enough. It responds to the social insecurity and economic inequality resulting, in no small part, from policies set by the centrist establishment, and to the growing venality and self-insulation of that class. “Rather than attributing to the old order the failures that occurred on its watch, nostalgists blame mismanagement, or popular fatigue, or ‘populism’Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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620464  No.4135



Its way too late, the globalists have already destroyed america. Unless you are willing to commit a genocide the only solution i can see is closing all the borders for about 30-50 years, breaking the racial and ethnic pride of every identity group, and then reshaping them all into hardcore american nationalists

This wouldnt be a globalist nation. No one would be allowed in anymore after the dictatorship was established.

The whole thing would be more like north korea on steroids.

In any case i really do think that if there is a dictatorship in america it will be through the military. A highly respected institution that could take over in the interest of the people and destroy the grip of capital and liberalism. But you really would need a Patton or MacArthur type figure to be the head

e481cf  No.4157


I would be up for the task.

00f316  No.4230

Even if the left technically has a common enemy with us they'll never ally with fascists. They think fascism is just an extreme version of capitalism and fascists are middle class bourgies, there is no compromise with delusional faggots like that. They're far more concerned with blacking white nations than they ever will be actually liberating the working class.

e481cf  No.4450


I propose the Ungern idea of racial and religious communalism by a god sent Autocrat. but as a Sorelian, I see more of a Confederation of trade union run city-states (not actual borders) overseen by same autocrat.

e481cf  No.4451

most NatSocs are purity spiralers. what the OP was describing is a lot like CulturedThug's Integralist views. South Americans can talk all the shit they want but they're just as mixed as we are, no offense. especially Brazil. I tend to think of myself as less Unitary and more Federalist than CulturedThug and more Socialist.

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1bd882  No.4340[Reply]

Sup /fasc/, subversive commie here with a question.

What do you lads think of Umberto Eco's 'Ur-Fascism'? It's written for the purposes of identifying and eradicating fascism wherever it emerges and in whatever way it emerges, but do you supporters of fascism agree with its definition and identification of fascism?

I've heard opinions on it from antifascist liberals, leftists and political scientists, but not from actual supporters of fascism.


For those of you who are allergic to reading or don't appreciate Eco's impeccable prose, just scroll down to the 14-point list defining aspects of fascism.

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ed8cdd  No.4416


>Well, fascism puts alot of priority in masculinity and traditional gender roles so don't see nothing wrong with.

>>disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality

sounds like a typical liberal would today. there's a reason why women should stay chaste until marriage. too much slutting around causes more babies for the welfare state and then countries go into debt. don't get me wrong, I definitely love socialism, but I tend to have the belief that an opposite of a bachelor tax should be imposed, like bachelor welfare. its much easier for a woman to get laid because of many factors (including the 20/80 rule), general malleability of women's minds (we may have fragile egos but at least we stick to our ideals) and innate inability to stay loyal to a tribe (women are born with a liberal mindset so they believe they have to babysit everyone, no lady, look after your own kids, some 25 year old nigger is not your child)

8a9859  No.4421

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>I'm not really asking anyone to refute anything - I'm looking for perspectives here - but anyway

was writing that post while distracted.

Should've written

>you're asking people what they think of

It doesn't have a tendency towards linguistic fart huffing that only serves as a tool to pretend you're smarter than you really in front of your fellow (((academics))).

Would you rather reach out to the common people by using language they're accustomed to, or obfuscate and elongate just to make yourself seem smarter?

We have to distinguish between actual intellectuals, and dunning-krugerites with diplomas for "intersectional crossing nigger dances"

Would you call Evola anti-intellectual?


he argues against nature

>fascists are bad because normal people are wary of outsiders, and take time to think before trying something unknown.

in more primitive times at least retards ended themselves by eating mushrooms or fruits with no concern to their potential danger.


>Are you an unironic ancap?

I took inspiration from a different thread and use ancap flag for shitposts.

But I'd like low taxes, strong army and border control, power in the hands of a single leader that's moral, prohibition on production, distribution and sale of pornography, punishment for faggotry and focus on maintaining and upholding culture & morality.

I'm a monarchist but i believe fascism is a required transition before fascist leader's son can become real king, as nowadays nothing good would come out of candidate stating, I wuz kang vote for me

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d5d734  No.4432

It's called "Ur-Fascism" in english? Why? Un Fascismo literally means "A fascism", an instance of fascism upon a society. This makes no sense.

Before analising this text, it is important to define the psychological profile of Umberto Eco at the dawn of his intelectual progression, something which influenced profoundly this text.

Umberto Eco was born in 1932, in the midst of Mussolini's regime, and thus originally being an adept of it's ideology. Since a very young age, Eco's talent for writing manifested, when he won an essay contest in his school system with a text openly praising fascism and it's effects on italian society, Later in life he analised this moment of his life as how fascism has the ability to prosper withing microcosmic instances creating the work which eventually inspired this text to take place.

Then begins the events described in the text in question, whereas Eco had a surprisingly positive impression of the american invaders, or as he calls them, "liberators". While it might not be relevant to this topic, it is important to contextualize that many did not meet the same conditions during the ocupation, often falling victims to war crimes and such other atrocities.

Now, given these facts, we can claim that Eco on the age where his intellectual fruition was still under development was a follower of Mussolini's ideology, even if out of convenience, and then was exposed to an efficient occupation process and to the western bourgeois consumerist world, and given the fact that Italy's economy was torn by war ever since he was born, he initially loved it. By combinig these factors with the ever-present social push towards the western aligned democratic ideals, in many ways similar to the german de-nazification, we can safely assume that Eco was victim to the phenonemon of post-war guilt and the feeling that he needed to prove the world that he was different from his parents generation, another very pertinent phenomenon which was present in that era. The chronologically closest social movement to Eco was probably the french beatniks in the early 50s, and the most relevant being the american CRM in the 60s. There might just as well have existed something similar to that in Italy, but i'm not aware of it.

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1bd882  No.4440


>It's called "Ur-Fascism" in english? Why? Un Fascismo literally means "A fascism", an instance of fascism upon a society. This makes no sense.

Eco wrote the article in English for the newspaper - the ur-prefix is borrowed from German with the meaning (proto-, primitive, original).

Much of the biography you wrote is what Eco himself details in the first part of the article under discussion.

d5d734  No.4449


This biased perception of fascist Italy can clearly be observed in the first half of the text, which i will sumarize his perception as:

>The contradictory picture I describe was not the result of tolerance but of political and ideological discombobulation. But it was a rigid discombobulation, a structured confusion. Fascism was philosophically out of joint, but emotionally it was firmly fastened to some archetypal foundations.

While in many cases several of us agree that Italy at the time was a severely disfunctional society which i personally claim that it was the result of petty regionalisms, christian false-moralism and poor education, several wounds in which fascist italy took part in the process of healing , but Eco's view is somewhat muddled by attribuing all of the italian "tolerance" to incompetency. In the artistic side of things, we have Ezra Pound, which was a proponent of modernist arts and even Julius Evola himself who deemed the artistic vision characteristic to Mussolini's as ""irredeemable pretentious bourgeois garbage". While this might fall upon the "ideological discombobulation" claim, aren't healthy societies supposed to have a fair amount of debate towards the topics pertaining to themselves?

On the topic of commmunist persecution, it is very important to note that both back then and in contemporaneity there are people with vastly different views towards communism and communists. There are those such as myself who have some crucial intellectual disagreements with some pertinent communist ideas, but ultimately recognize the goals we have in common, and decide not to persecute them in hopes of them perceiving our viewpoint, something which can be historically demonstrated with the Bombacchi affair; and those, usually of a more capitalistic upbringing, who have a strong rejection towards said ideology and want to "throw commies out of helicopters". Independently of the origins of these respective positions, where someone can argue that an spectrum can be traced by the adepts's relation to the class struggle, it is important to remeber that people with both of these opinions held positions of power and infPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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2e2999  No.4160[Reply]

I've heard among Situationists and LeftComms there's a lot of Holocaust denial. why is that? or is that just hearsay?

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2e2999  No.4328


>"lol OP is a kike shill"

>posts degenerate MLP porn

4cf1a0  No.4330

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God fucking damn it this place is starting to become like/pol/ i left /pol/ for a reason why does that cancer have to follow me wherever i go ?

2e2999  No.4331

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well this thread turned out to be a crapshoot. I was speak of people like Amadeo Bordiga and whether or not they were holocaust deniers but ok whatever.

2e2999  No.4333


I mean I was just asking a question about Council Communists and Holocaust Denial but a bunch of NatSocs had to come shit up the thread and start bitching and whining without answering the actual question. I know Council Communism and Left Communism in general is a no go zone for this board but I felt I needed to ask as a friend from /leftypol/ told me about them and the holohoax but I guess a bunch of avatarfagging happened instead of somebody answering my questions.

c7ef3a  No.4425

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0b3d2a  No.2156[Reply]

What are your opinions on Pétain or on Vichy France in general? He may have not been a fascist, but I can admire his attempt to make France more traditional. Vichy France still had some fascistic elements

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3fed78  No.2857


he came to power by a military coup and lost power by a military coup. he didn't end democratic reforms but his regime certainly wasn't democratic in substance.


> it was simply to keep the country as close to the NATO-aligned faction

wat. De Gaulle left NATO and kicked out the US. Of course he kept sort of western aligned but the whole thrust of his policy was national glory and sovereignty and anti-american puppetry

3fed78  No.2858


democratic forms*

678b8f  No.4324



Well, french people are used to that and they like it

e0b945  No.4350


Gaulle and Petain were both authoritarian conservatives. Gaulle was about as far-right as contemporary National Front, Petain was farther right in the traditionalist direction.

06c395  No.4375


As far as i know,vichy france wasn't a puppet,Petain was actually chosen to rule france while the others where in exile or something.

If it was a puppet,then they would have joined germany just like Slovakia.

The point is,he wasn't chosen by Hitler to work as a puppet.

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437e7d  No.4152[Reply]

would world war 2 still have happened ? would fascism/the third position be more welcomed into society ? or was Strasser as warmongering as Hitler ?

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91803c  No.4294


Germany would still be alive as a nation


Yeah that vid is mediocre imo but not so bad

73b657  No.4297


It was kind of shit. Unless Gregor took over Germany I doubt they'd ally with the Russians. Otto certainly wouldn't.

1bbf75  No.4301

>Would ww2 still have happened

It depends.

Hitler wanted a german ethno-state and that included Danzig,but the poles refused to cooperate so Germany declared war and then France and UK joined in.

So it depends,if Strasser had any interest in danzig then ww2 would probably have gone the same way.

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a623e7  No.4341


Gregor was on rather good terms with Hitler despite their strong ideological differences for a long while. I think he was probably in favor of pan-germanism since that was the common nationalist base in this time with Austrofascism being the only exception. I doubt Gregor would have been as arrogant and ruthless since he was a Nationalistic Socialist with moral values. And yeah Germany would have become involved in the next war even without being the aggressor this time. The Entente theoretically could have flipped the tables at any moment and say they declared war because the treaty of Versailles was broken too harshly this time. They also would have been scared shitless by a German-Russian alliance… enough reason to make WW2 happen. With them being the "bad guys" this time lmao.

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9270a4  No.3682[Reply]

lol, if a liberal one was made, it would say "invites refugees in because of undying altruism and then ends up getting raped or killed"

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5068e0  No.4081


He's Lost

Take him out of his misery before it attempts to reproduce With you


I am so glad he died in my country

5dc7a9  No.4091

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i feel bullied now

1bf257  No.4093


>reddit frog's anger

based b8poster

9270a4  No.4115


Nah he keeps his fetishes to himself around others

9270a4  No.4116


Also I'm a dude so in case you think I could get pregnant thats not possible

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3ea85f  No.2775[Reply]

Greetings from >>> /arepa/

Orden is a nationalist movement of the third position of venezuela founded in 2012

Venezuelan Nationalism has as its fundamental principles the greatness of the nation, the prosperity of its citizens, and the political and economic independence of all foreign interference. Venezuelan Nationalism highlights the role of the family nucleus and the value of work for national development. It does not respond to divisive discourses such as class struggle or historical materialism. Nationalism believes in working together to promote social mobility in less favored sectors. We emphasize the merit of individual effort and its role in the community. The individual / collective union is what gives strength and prosperity to the nation. The State and private enterprise must work together for the constitution of the National Welfare State.

Finally, we highlight the role of knowledge of national history in its entirety. The Nationalist does not intend to manipulate it for his benefit, deleting and distorting facts or characters. To identify where the nation and the Venezuelan citizen came from, we must know in depth not only our republican period, but also the 300 years prior to independence. It should be noted that we do not fall into chauvinism, that is, into extremist nationalism. We believe in the healthy nationalism that respects the rest of nations and cultures that comprise humanity, as long as the sovereignty of the Venezuelan nation is respected.

Venezuelan citizens are born of the most intense mestizaje process in Latin America, therefore, Venezuelan nationalism is not xenophobic nor can pretend to be so. To recognize our heritage we must accept and be proud of our Hispanic, aboriginal and African heritage. Venezuelan Nationalism does not hide or try to vilify part of our inheritance in favor of another, only to attend divisive speeches as has happened in recent years.

Venezuela has had various territorial disputes since its formation. The Claim of usurped territories or the settlement of border disputes are not considered elements of expansion but of RECOVERY. Venezuela must create a Commission compPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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534539  No.2942


The synarchists are cucked and basically dead, it would be better to start from scratch, also, Lopez is not a socialist, his future government is full of neolibs, he just promises gibs for everyone which will probably fuck up the economy, but the neolibs are likely to intervene if that happens.

46eb5b  No.2949


I realize that now that he won he will stop the socialist act and bow to the international markets, but any fuck up he does will be a fuck up over the name of the left. If people ignored the fact that Morena is made up of ex-PRI members then they won't notice that his policies changed.

>The synarchists are cucked and basically dead

Their image is alive in some places, it would be foolish not to use that to at least attract people, even if they are most likely all old men with more nostalgia than sense. But these are patriarchs and hold some power over their families which mean that they wold some power over their communities

Also, I think it is a bit rude to take over another country's thread, there should be a Mexico general

534539  No.2956


Look up the thread "the absolute state of memexico, there we can discuss why synarchism is not the best option, okie?

8f149d  No.3724

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653316  No.4053

they are 3 pdf of the movement

> are in Spanish

1. your manifest

2. your nation plan part 1 and part 2

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9c7c5d  No.1483[Reply]

why did he betray Franco ?

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33628c  No.3863


if you had gotten 1488 this post would be perfect


4fb26b  No.3866

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lol, that was me that got 1488 in the other thread.

cc03ae  No.3926


dead people can still complain you just can't hear them from this side.

92b095  No.3949


Because it wasn't a Kingly system, he put forth a successor but didn't have a good enough council of lords who there would be at least one amongest them to step up, kill this so called "nu-King" and will to power his own Kingdom of Spain.

It is sad Spain forgot how to do monarchy, Franco had all the time to setup up contingencies, perhaps internally all of them were defeated. It'd be nice to have Spain recognizing contubernio judeo-masónico.

2637c0  No.3965

Franco was an old-fashioned reactionary who established a personal dictatorship. He failed to mobilize the masses behind him with an idea that could outlast him. Because of this everything he may have achieved died with him.

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6bd3cd  No.3329[Reply]

Let's say Hitler conquered the world and every country besides the Axis powers are puppet regimes controlled by Hitler. Would Hitler have enough with just his Lebensraum and puppets and not move to conquer Japan and Italy? If yes then how do you as a fascist justify not doing the most for your country no matter what?

Also, aren't fascist states meant to hate each other no matter what and alliances between them are merely temporary?

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5dfac3  No.3803

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> Also, aren't fascist states meant to hate each other no matter what and alliances between them are merely temporary?

I've personally never seen it that way, at least on the way forward. Ideally we should see eachother as spiritual brothers who aspire for a greater ideal of men and nation. Sure, this wouldn't mean that interactions would always be possitive, but if we are going to succeed we must stick together in the face of evil. And when it comes to past grievances between nations, those should be put in the past, given the palingenetic nature of Fascism as an ideology which implies a rebirth of the national spirit.

Yes, I know, I'm being highly idealistic, but a man can dream.

aa0337  No.3808



you have to go back to cuckchan, frogposter

3c35b0  No.3814


Well incase if my country becomes fascist, Isolatonism is the way to go. we need time to get our shit together before we start to see the world again.

5dfac3  No.3857

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>not shitposting and farming (you)s on halfchan to later come here to have serious discussions

You are missing on a lot, fren.


I agree, the whole concept of serious alliances between fascist nations should come once they are well established and in a stable societal climate, otherwise it could be counterproductive for the stronger regimes.

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146d11  No.498[Reply]

Preferably fascist, third positionist and reactionary/monarchist music but all music as long as it's good is welcome.



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39a99a  No.2357


Love me some martial industrial

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File: 5fbd3b77299de67⋯.webm (1.16 MB, 320x240, 4:3, serbia stronk.webm)


6fd299  No.2381

File: 168ee4fb7b85185⋯.mp4 (11.63 MB, 480x360, 4:3, funkerlied.mp4)

Also posting my two favorite Wehrmacht marching songs

6fd299  No.2382

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ec011f  No.3830

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Has this been posted yet? It's a beautiful song.

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9d8a4a  No.3729[Reply]

Are there any unironic NazBols who got brought over to the Biological Worldview from an originally orthodox Marxist-Leninist position here? Could you describe your ideological journey? Did you browse /leftypol/ before realizing blank slate/social constructionist bullshit is exactly that, bullshit?

As a NazBol what would your end goal look like? How would stateless communism jive with ethnic/racial separation (nationalism for all peoples)? What is your defition of Socialism, etc?

How do we convince more Marxist-Leninists to realize Homo Sovieticus is retarded and you can't just "socialize" people into being rootless cosmopilitans who love trannies, gays and become polyamorous mixed race degenerates? Biology/Nature/Order, they think these are 'spooks' and can be ignored. What prompts a person to break out of this mental prison? I'm guessing when you realize tribe/ethnicity/race is the original 'class' that conflict with one another?

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b58f4e  No.3797


You should read manifesto on interest slavery by Gottfried Feder, it kind of cemented my views on class collaboration as opposed to class warfare. He talks a lot about how international bankers are the real super predators and how small factory owners are much less of a threat.

2e08b4  No.3799


It was actually one of the next things I planned on reading, funnily enough.

b58f4e  No.3804


It's kind of dry but it's only 50 pages and worth reading.

2e08b4  No.3806


That’s not too bad. Will probably only take me a day or so taking notes as I go. I forget everything I read if I don’t take notes. Maybe I’m a brainlet, but it helps me remember

2c01c2  No.3807


I don't think that race-realism and Marxism are fundamentally incompatible. It is possible to acknowledge that racial differences exist biologically without abandoning Marx's critique of capitalism. I mean, if anything, the logic of capitalism often compels business to find sources of cheap labor which means importing non-whites into Europe and the USA.

There is also significant evidence that Marx & Engels believed that some nationalities and races were non-historical and doomed to disappear due to the advance of history. Engels in particular did not see anything wrong with the fact that White Americans had taken Texas from Mexico. He saw this as being simply a part of civilization's progress. Likewise, he felt that some European peoples were doomed to disappear since they lacked any real history of their own and simply existed within the boundaries of other empires.

Marx & Engels also made some /pol/ tier jokes about blacks and homos in their private letters.

Engels talks about "non-historic peoples" here:


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