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Rebirth

File: ec896173f151397⋯.png (86.59 KB, 1214x796, 607:398, signal-2018-09-15-192435.png)

0ef1bf  No.9120[Reply]

Hey, good evening gents. Dillon here, leader of Vanguard America. I wanted to just put the word out there that Matthew Heimbach, myself and Jeff Schoep are all now collaborating to remake the NSM into a far more efficient and stable entity. Mr. Heimbach is taking the helm with the authority and oversight of Mr. Schoep. I'm supplying manpower, resources and logistical support. If any of you are interested in assisting us all with your skills or know how on anything and everything from writing website stuff to podcast management to whatever you're good at, just hit me up in this thread or email me.

This is our new standard. I think it's a breath of fresh air. It speaks volumes and harkens back to the days of the Holy Roman Empire.

We need more intelligent and dapper able-bodied and presentable men to fill the ranks of the new National Socialist Movement. We are in need of media team personnel and also any other areas that you might be interested in or skilled in. If you know or do mine for bitcoin or anything else that's highly lucrative, we are also in need of your assistance as well.

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a08b7f  No.10072

>>9246

You should care about optics because it reflects on everyone else associated with you. Your actions do affect others out there.


5896fb  No.10078

File: 6f8fb90dbc4bff6⋯.jpg (113.94 KB, 1080x740, 54:37, 6f8fb90dbc4bff63b7685e481d….jpg)

>>10057

Should we let them run our streets, stop traffic, destroy our small businesses and generally cause chaos? I say no. They're serious in that they want to bring revolution and we have to stop them. They hate liberalism just as much as we do but their solutions are shit. They want to bring chaos instead of order. If it were up to antifa there would be squatters in every unoccupied home, small business owners and low level mangers would be killed, and feminists and minorities would run amok. I know because I was a communist a few years ago. I understand their ideology. Anarcho-communism cannot work. People are not equal. The only way it could work is if the most intelligent people ran the communes and that does not happen under the direct democracy proposed by communists. I'm a Strasserist so I believe in a large degree of economic equality but only for those who are capable. The thing about communists is that they don't understand the value of citizenship. They believe that everyone should be a citizen and everyone should be able to vote as a member of the global proletariat. There is no world proletariat. The fact is, we all speak different languages, have completely different cultural identities and have completely different ideas on how a nation should be run. There is only the national proletariat. We have to protect our nation from foreigners who leech off of our system and drive our wages down. I believe in a workers state. Communists don't believe in a state at all. National Syndicalism the way forward. Anarcho-Syndicalism is the way to hell and chaos.


cfcda8  No.10086

>>10078

Good post. Could you, in your own words, explain your support of strasserism? Sorry for off topic, but the hugbox of pol often leaves me without straight answers.


fd17f8  No.10359

>>9120

So fashy arts and crafts didn’t build a movement? Who woulda thunk? You failed man, so did heighnbach. all of your serious members left for Patriot Front. Just support real fascism movements instead of LARPing as Nazis and yelling at Jews.


7facfb  No.10378

File: dae4a33c08798a3⋯.jpg (52.78 KB, 750x692, 375:346, [incoherent_hissing].jpg)

>>10078

>siegculture




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27f186  No.5978[Reply]

How would the design of a government be like in a Facist rule?

You of course would have a singular leader who would dictate laws.

But how would the general population's voice be heard? Would it almost be like a republic where certain areas vote for a representative to show their views?

How would the views be hear? Would it be done in a private setting with the leader and representative or rather in a open meeting where all representatives get together and state their opinions. Of course this almost seems like a parliamentary system. Does the leader simply have a council of which will vote for things. With the leader simply listening and giving his input but not the final say?

What form of fascism do you think had the best ideas of government or how would you create your own fascist government?

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92d286  No.6000

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>>5994

If only he had gotten into power god damn it i wish i could go back in time to make sure that he did


018e80  No.6001

File: 3956feb4af2f900⋯.jpg (12.87 KB, 261x390, 87:130, Check 'em.jpg)


d9270b  No.6003

File: 67edb278dcbea2a⋯.jpg (8.83 KB, 136x180, 34:45, f2ee0a6e1e282b36e7465cd646….jpg)

>>6000

Based trips confirm anon going back in time


84b3bc  No.10295

File: ae805cf6638be78⋯.jpg (883.22 KB, 1500x1447, 1500:1447, 5_Berry_Faerie.jpg)

>>5989

>where people would vote according to their profession rather than divisive political parties, and policy would be decided by experts in fields.

Does this mean that some jobs will be more respected that others?

I mean this sounds good, people will try to escape the low tier jobs like in capitalism and at the same time there will be government

HOWEVER

Ler's pretend that we gained power in one country:

How are we going to lift those who were in shitty conditions long before our rule?

Will we just leave them ?

Simple encouragement won't work since most of the may suffer from problems on mental levels


d4ef9a  No.10366

>>5984

>That are also ripped bodybuilders

This, Goddammit this

Imagine a world where your fellow nationals could end every argument with a foreigner with « Well, that might be true, but MY leader could beat up your President »

How do you even counter that? The discussion is over, you and your Duce's abs have won, they might as well make a petition to be annexed by your nation




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3f50c7  No.10191[Reply]

I was having a chat with one of my friends when I said to him "let's be honest if Germany won world war 2 we would be colonising the solar system by now" to which he replied with "yes it is true that they were more productive but happiness is also important" this awnser made me think. obviously under an authoritarian government such as the NSDAP or other fascist/third position movements will have a lot of restrictions free speech will be limited for obvious reasons and so fourth some people will be fine with this but this may affect others it may be taking away what makes them happy and what makes them enjoy life so the question is this. Is happiness really that important? Or should we sacrifice what gives us joy in life if it benefits the nation ? Is duty more important than happiness? To an extent I believe so. Obviously being in our comfort zones have made us lazy and weak we need to discipline ourselves more so in the end should happiness be completely discarded for the greater good ?

3fe789  No.10193

No fat kids in the hitler youth. When you've got health like that because you were drummed through intensive fitness programs, as well as the knowledge of how to defend yourself/kill a man, you've got more to be happy about than most 9-5 300 pounders inhabiting the very liberal "free" united states.


01cd84  No.10198

>>10191

Over-educated metropolitan elites would be unhappy, everyone else would get used to it and probably be happier. Patriotism, collectivism, law and order etc are more important to most people than individual rights although in some countries this might not be the case.


7c7826  No.10201

It depends on how 'happiness' is defined.

People on the right and fascists tend to have an 'Aristotelian' idea of happiness, which basically amounts to 'happiness is living your life in a virtuous way, regardless of the circumstance you're in'. It is shared by the stoics and divorces happiness from materialism. Under this theory, Fascism and by extension conservative living increases happiness, as it drives people to stay above the bog of decadence, indulgence and addiciton.

'We must subordinate our appettites, our passions and our egoism to the wholeness of the National interest. This way we will be a really free people, otherwise anarchy and indiscipline will reign over us under the false mask of freedom'-Ioannis Metaxas


9fa1bd  No.10214

>>10191

It is true that fascist states have a lot of restrictions in conduct, be it cultural or legislative laws.

In liberalism one is free to do whatever one wants, or at least that's the idea, yet most people are slaves of their own vices. While in fascism all those restrictions keep vice at bay and let oneself to act without taking into account such low urges. Even Buddhists who value freedom so much that they end up leaving everything live with a lot of restrictions in order to achieve illumination –a.k.a. total freedom–.

So it is a question of letting vice be free or being free from vice

I personally believe that happiness is general satisfaction. Can't be happy if you feel hunger every day, but you cannot be happy too if you are a brat who wants to have everything. Once people feel to be satisfied with what they have they will be happy, but the idea of total freedom only makes people think that they can and must have everything be better, which without a concrete goal will only torn into bottomless greed


9924e2  No.10341

You don't need to run a police state where saying "communism isn't such a bad thing" ends in the death penalty like you're implying. That just makes people hate you more and turn on you no matter what good you're doing them. You need to learn the difference between free speech and dangerous activities because they're not enemies. A dumb kid spewing dumb shit is part of them growing up, always has been and always will be. That's different from promoting communism as a political alternative.

In a functioning country things don't need micro management, they run smoothly on their own. It doesn't do you any good to ban porn when every man will have a wife who will satisfy his needs. To some of them watching smut together will help them do exactly that. Banning it would only encourage an illegal grey market to start up where you're playing cat and mouse all day.

Happiness is too abstract a concept to base anything on. But you can promote pride and good behaviour which leads to people feeling overall good about things rather than pleasure seeking.




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File: 77f6761f3d76069⋯.jpg (152.85 KB, 1200x1306, 600:653, revised political compass.jpg)

59c7fe  No.10334[Reply]

So, we all know what the political compass is, an X and a Y axis, the former representing economic policies (left being centralised, right being more laissez-faire), and the latter being government power (top being very authoritative and bottom being anarchist).

I have gone and taken 10 political ideologies and mapped them on the compass as well as I could, though some may be a bit off due to my lack of in-depth knowledge on a few of them. Here's a guide to the symbols, as some may be difficult to recognise. That's because I used some 'unofficial' or 'close enough' symbols due to a lack of appropriate symbol to represent said ideology.

1) Swastika - National Socialism, Hitlerism - A bit more friendly towards privatisation compared to Strasserism, very authoritative.

2) Hammer and Sword - Social Nationalism/Strasserism - National Socialism that hates capitalism more than NS and more tolerant to redistributionism.

3) Fasces - Fascism - State-centred ideology, state capitalism.

4) Hammer and Sickle - Stalinism - Statist, not exactly nationalist but not internationalist, centralised as fuck

5) Gay Hammer and Sickle - Neo-Marxism, (((internationalist authority))), pro-degeneracy

6) Socialist Fist - (((European))) socialism - High Taxation, Sweden, pro-immigration, (((globalist))), some free market

7) Jerusalem Cross - Feudalism - For King, God and Country, Authoritarian, economics shaky, basic form of taxation

8) Apple - Crony Capitalism - (((globalist))), avoids taxes, collects personal data, erodes culture

9) Money Bag - Libertarian Dream - No taxation, company governments, ultimate individual

10) Red-Black star & Nationalist Cross - National Anarchism - Racial tribalism, Stateless coexistence

As you can see, we run into a few issues. First of all, there is a huge cluster of opposite ideologies in the top left quadrant. NS, Strasserism, Neo-Marxism, these shouldn't be together, should they? After all, NS anPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

59c7fe  No.10335

shit, i accidentally double posted my entire fucking thread xD the captcha didn't want to fucking load and i think i double clicked when it finally loaded


146311  No.10417

>>10334

You took the political chart, made one that supposedly is the accepted one (it's not), and then scrambled that, fucked it up beyond sanity with nonsensical axis rewording, and put almost every ideology in completely the wrong spot regardless. Neither of them make sense from any perspective.


5a8739  No.10845

>>10417

autism




File: e14864e4f4be42a⋯.jpg (201.76 KB, 1200x1306, 600:653, political compass.jpg)

File: 77f6761f3d76069⋯.jpg (152.85 KB, 1200x1306, 600:653, revised political compass.jpg)

145f94  No.10333[Reply]

So, we all know what the political compass is, an X and a Y axis, the former representing economic policies (left being centralised, right being more laissez-faire), and the latter being government power (top being very authoritative and bottom being anarchist).

I have gone and taken 10 political ideologies and mapped them on the compass as well as I could, though some may be a bit off due to my lack of in-depth knowledge on a few of them. Here's a guide to the symbols, as some may be difficult to recognise. That's because I used some 'unofficial' or 'close enough' symbols due to a lack of appropriate symbol to represent said ideology.

1) Swastika - National Socialism, Hitlerism - A bit more friendly towards privatisation compared to Strasserism, very authoritative.

2) Hammer and Sword - Social Nationalism/Strasserism - National Socialism that hates capitalism more than NS and more tolerant to redistributionism.

3) Fasces - Fascism - State-centred ideology, state capitalism.

4) Hammer and Sickle - Stalinism - Statist, not exactly nationalist but not internationalist, centralised as fuck

5) Gay Hammer and Sickle - Neo-Marxism, (((internationalist authority))), pro-degeneracy

6) Socialist Fist - (((European))) socialism - High Taxation, Sweden, pro-immigration, (((globalist))), some free market

7) Jerusalem Cross - Feudalism - For King, God and Country, Authoritarian, economics shaky, basic form of taxation

8) Apple - Crony Capitalism - (((globalist))), avoids taxes, collects personal data, erodes culture

9) Money Bag - Libertarian Dream - No taxation, company governments, ultimate individual

10) Red-Black star & Nationalist Cross - National Anarchism - Racial tribalism, Stateless coexistence

As you can see, we run into a few issues. First of all, there is a huge cluster of opposite ideologies in the top left quadrant. NS, Strasserism, Neo-Marxism, these shouldn't be together, should they? After all, NS anPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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24cf81  No.9383[Reply]

ITT- Stop feeding the cancer.

If you've come up with any good ideas about proper organisation, or you've heard any, then leave them here. We can discuss them, tweak them, merge them with other plans or set them aside as a back-up; it really doesn't matter, so long as we're doing something with the potential to be productive for a change.

Embed related. WATCH IT. On 1.25% speed if you have to.

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d6aa20  No.10297

>>9384

This is commie-tier shit.

Called "communa" in russian.

I always thought we are going to encourage family things,no?

Of course, on a paper it is good ,yet someting inside is telling me that it will fail.

To be honest,if I had an opportunity I'd join, but my family would started suspecting me being homosexual. heh


c9f549  No.10310

>>10297

Its about building a community, not a commune. We're not shutting ourselves off from the rest of the world, the "get involved in your community" part should've made that clear. It's building the movement from scratch by putting local anons in direct contact with each other in a space where they don't have to worry about ensoring themselves. It's the starting point, Ivan, not the whole plan.

And let's be honest here, you're family has everything from Krokodil dens to american-sponsored church-cults to worry about before they stumble across your dirty little secret.


0f42b5  No.10312

File: a6b6f33e686db65⋯.jpg (204.36 KB, 605x780, 121:156, goebbels.jpg)

>>9407

For fuck's sake, anon, don't do that.

The risk of plants who know about this board and live near enough to start gtting involved is an acceptable one for peaceul organisation; Sticking "Fascists wanted!" posters all over your local area is just *asking* for trouble.


17308e  No.10317

Heard of WALK?

It's a project you can find out more about over on >>>/meadhall/- essentially, we come up with a list of convenient but not crowded areas in a city for anons in the area to come on dubs days (the 11th and 22nd of each month) at trips time, 4:44pm, dressed in a white baseball cap & a white T-shirt, to see if anybody else dressed like that shows up; and just like that, you can meet up with each other whilst having plausible deniability.

They're currently looking for location suggestions.


dd6826  No.10327

>>10312

Yeah that’s a stupid idea, idk what I was thinking tbqh.




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eb8fa1  No.10107[Reply]

I know times are tough and our board is currently dying so I thought I would make this pointless thread to encourage optimism for the future remember defeatism is illegal this is a happy thread post things in this thread that will give us hope

Here have a happy pelly

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066f2d  No.10313

we're too edgy for /pol/ and /leftpol/ alike. most people won't get the message that IT JUST WORKS.


b9d65e  No.10314

Golden age /fascist/ was killed, then spun-off into /3rdpol/, /3pos/ or whatever bullshit… and kind of sucked. /fascist/ was revived and all the drama brought shitposters… its now silver age /fascist/, but honestly since /leftypol/ gave up on trying to convert us and the shitposters left…

It's actually quite comfy.


021658  No.10318

>>10314

There are still a few Lefty-pol reject around. Manny treat fascism as an economic doctrine and not a spiritual one, and that creates a lot of friction and division

>>10129

I remember saying something similar to the original BO of this board and Egor, that I would rather have /fascist/ be a place for you to make a few well-made posts in the afternoon, sleep, go to your normal day and check for replies on the next day. The problem with /pol/ is that it is used as a means of escapism, a power fantasy and a complete waste of time that only serves to speed up the Heat Death f the universe, I am worried about the same happening here

>>10314

I would say that things have gotten better, although people are still wasting their time with that thread about mongrels with the maymay pepe girl

But to be honest I would propose to simply improve the quality to our posts and refuse to give discussion to anyone who proves to be just plain retarded (not ignorant), since the BO has stated that he won't micro-manage everything then it is up to us, I guess we will get the board we deserve


f41a1d  No.10319

>>10314

>>10318

Just checked /3rdpol/. Seems they're having the same dilemma we are; after the hacking drama, this place went to the shitposters for awhile & the people who stayed on /3rdpol/ to avoid it saw their board traffic shrink. Now we're back to the modest traffic we had before, but it's split between 2 boards.

I can't speak for the positions of the people who decided to stick to the bunker board, but it seems to me that if we want to continue growing the board & the board culture we wre starting to develop, whilst keeping the less desirable qualitites of quantity at bay, then the easiest way to do that would be to re-merge the community.


b9d65e  No.10324

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>>10319

I agree, the idea of /3rdpol/ being more laid back and /fascist/ being more intellectual… really hasn't panned out. If we could get the BO's to set side their egos (which honestly is not that big a deal since both are cool tbqh) and merge it back to one board… ideally /fascist/ since /3rdpol/ just sounds like those vanity offshoots of /pol/… and this place is something completely different.




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4648b2  No.8612[Reply]

would you consider it to be national capitalism?

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b20d18  No.8656

Not really, the use of "corporation" is a poor translation since it means "private business" in America. In fascist Italy it meant labor unions and private agreements between people. Watch cultured thug's video on it.


8524f2  No.9116

>>8613

DIstributism does sounds like a cool idea. It would be very interesting to see how it works.


e17015  No.9123

>>8612

>if you work with the state, the state helps so you wont fall

seems pretty nationalistic to me tbh


50ab81  No.9182

>>8613

Distributism and Syndicalism and Chinese-style Socialism are chad tier economics.


d9d61d  No.10294

>>8612

Well, by stateing this you acknowledge capitalist or marxist hegemony over the others.

In other words,your assumptions are based on CoC perception of the world.

The question should be whether is fascism a reactionary movement to CoC or is it more.




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8d5318  No.10196[Reply]

I know this board is for fascist discussions but it only feels right to also celebrate our traditions.

Remember Halloween is not about candy or scary costumes it is about remembering and respecting the dead.

Have a wonderful day everyone and may Christ be with you

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150beb  No.10266

>>10265

You started?

>>10264

I got annoyed, it's fair. You'd get annoyed if you explained something four times and it had literally no impact on his parroting.


163303  No.10269

>>10245

Honestly I am in favour of both christianity and pagan religions as they are both very important to europien culture we just need to get rid of the Jewish corruption that has infested christianity over the years


163303  No.10270

>>10269

Was meant for

>>10250


9a6294  No.10285

In an hour day of the Dead (It is actually two days) will be over, and I never got to invoke the spirit of Mussolini for him to judge my risotto, he would have probably get pissed at me and pulled my legs during my sleep

>>10219

It seems to me that this is a symptom to a bigger problem, I would like to identify it before making another thread, I really dislike overly specific threads that can be closed with only a few posts; waste of space and digits

>>10241

Jesus Christ came as a reformer and King to all jews, those who accepted him found salvation under the Son of God, while the rest (post-Christ Jews) became lucifereans in order to reject the teachings of Christ. Modern Christianity is not an off-shot of Modern Judaism but instead share a common ancestor. Is like saying humans came from chimps, the correct statement is that both humans and chimpanzees came from the same ancestor that is now long dead


639c1f  No.10289

>>10285

Well said anon




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5c3d4f  No.9941[Reply]

I'm not sure if I'm a fascist but I'm finding out

Ok in a fascist government can I own my own property?

Can I own my own firearms?

Can I worship Jesus Christ?

Will I not have to worry about degeneracy that could affect my future family?

Just trying to determine if this is the ideology for me.

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e4c4f3  No.10173

In my version

1. sure as long as its not a business

2. of course

3. that's fine

4. likely not

to these I would say this:

>civic or ethnonationalist? cultural

>monarchy? yeah, preferably

>freedom of religion?

>socialism, corporatism, or capitalism? socialism and corporatism combined

>militarism or pacifism? militarism, definitely


e4c4f3  No.10174

>>10173

forgot freedom of religion, its fine as long as you're not jewish or a zionist.


772a80  No.10215

>>9941

>I'm not sure if I'm a fascist but I'm finding out

You are

>Ok in a fascist government can I own my own property?

Yes, Rivera called capitalism « Anti-private-propety ». As long as your ventures do not damage your community you can get filthy rich, but keep in ming that the richer you are the more oversight you will get.

There are a few flavors of fascism still blaming the material on our spiritual problems, but classical fascism is not one of them

>Can I own my own firearms?

How are you supposed to be an effective member of society without one?

>Can I worship Jesus Christ?

Yes, extreme neo-paganism is rare in practice. You do get mixes of Christianity with the local traditions, but that's a characteristic of christianity

>Will I not have to worry about degeneracy that could affect my future family?

The liberal idea that the state should not worry about the morality of the people is thrown out the window, degenracy is enemy number one

>Just trying to determine if this is the ideology for me.

Read the Doctrine of Fascism, it is surprisingly short and straight to the point


c8d51b  No.10230

>>10117

No he isn't. He needs to have a grasp of the theory, not just "hurr I want muh ethnostate"


9846ba  No.10261

>Ok in a fascist government can I own my own property?

Depends on what you mean by fascism. But, considering that you're probably not a small businessman, no regime, even a communist one, is going to take your toothbrushes away.

>Can I own my own firearms?

Depends on where you are and what 'fascist' regime you're referring to. Unfortunately, considering the turbulent history of Italy's fascist movement pre-1923, there really isn't a single proper definition for 'fascism'. But considering how most of the nationalist white population in America supports gun ownership, the answer is 99% going to be yes.

>Can I worship Jesus Christ?

Depends on the fascism. In fact, you should just discard the notion of fascism being a coherent ideology. It's just a label that has been slapped on a myriad of ultranationalist ideologies, even if you limit it to just Italy.

Also, why care about a Jew on a stick so much?

>Will I not have to worry about degeneracy that could affect my future family?

So, you're one of those tradcon types. Look, 'degeneracy' and gays didn't ruin the family. Women and retarded divorce policies did. Fix your family courts and have an economy where men can make a living, and MAYBE you can have a possibility of restoring your 50's Arcadia. Honestly, even if we cleaned up the feminist divorce system and get rid of neoliberal capitalism, I don't want to go back to the 50's system. Housewives are obsolete due to modern appliances, and we're honestly better off not pigeon-holing citizens into certain roles.




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22ad13  No.10059[Reply]

The biggest weakness of Fascist regimes is the autocracy and subsequent cult of personality that develops, and also the tendency for terrible sycophants like Goering being worked into higher party positions. I understand the need for national purification and unity, but why does this have to be under an autocratic leader with a cult of personality? Why can't Eugenics, Militarism, national unity and purity all be worked into the constitution, along with rights and duties, while the leadership itself is checked by other estates and a limited electoral process, with a suffrage limited to functional, healthy men that run stable households?

I understand all the criticisms of democracy, but the excesses of it are due to universal suffrage. And I see Fascists understating the downsides to autocracy. Mussolini got himself involved in a war he was ill prepared to wage, Goering tried to cuddle up to the Allies immediately after losing the war and actual sociopaths were utilized in order to commit war crimes, instead of them themselves being exterminated from the general population. It's not just Fascist autocracies that we can see the problem of authoritarian party politics, just across the border in the Soviet Union you see monsters like Beria surviving and prospering, a man who wanted to dismantle the eastern bloc as he attempted to grasp for power.

As long as Fascists remain tied to absolute autocrats, you'll have an unstable system that eventually degenerates and falls apart. It's fine to have an autocracy to seize power, but the next call to action is education and the creation of a healthy new estate, comprised of strong nationalists ready to safeguard the country against bourgeoisie and internationalist subversion. Putting all your trust in the oligarchs and autocrats will leave them one day tearing the country apart in order to privatize the resources, exactly like with the Soviet Union, or subverting and liberalizing the country in order to achieve the same thing, as was the case with Spain.

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d3cf1c  No.10207

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>>10185

>>10187

>Autocracy specifically refers to the rule in ONE man's absolute hand, such as Hitler with his Fuhrerprinzip

Autocracy is simply a government where head of state receives power, is able to mandate and work around problems as easily as possible, and without hindrances embedded within the system. Like the other anon said about authorities, it is a reality that governing bodies simply determine and work around as they wish to reach their end. There are always people working within the institution and always the willpower of someone. No constitution will easily prevent this alone, but it does provide a sovereign guideline to rights. You're simply shuffling cards with checks and balances, employing more offices, and making what constitutes power less pronounced. When I say it is a reality, that is how any government effectively works. The rest is part of the scaffolding as referenced in the Mussolini quote.

>>10187

>>10199

>strong republic, noble blood, protestant temperance

To add on that, there wasn't much of a severe fracture point for them. The biggest instability came with the Civil War. The US plays on easy mode.


0bb5c5  No.10213

>>10062

What happens to all constitutions is what's happening with America's today and what happened with the British ones a long time ago. They get subverted. You either make a constitution that can be modified, or cannot, under any circumstances whatsoever, be modified. Both of which have issues.


4e07f4  No.10217

>>10199

>he United States has held on with a stable, conservative, racially aware, Christian white population much better than ANY country in its position.

What position is that? I don't care how "conservative" are, I care about how traditional they are. They were seeped in enlightenment values since their inception.


69a525  No.10222

>>10207

>To add on that, there wasn't much of a severe fracture point for them. The biggest instability came with the Civil War. The US plays on easy mode.

>What is Shay's Rebellion?

>What was the Constitution dispute?

>What was the Federalist Party's collapse?


b7dd9e  No.10229

Libertarians can fuck off




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51459b  No.9782[Reply]

Who here remembers when /fascist/ was good?

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b5cab6  No.9890

>>9782

Was posting when this place had less than 1 pph. Unfortunately I think this is gonna be the average from now on, our board's golden age ended.


51459b  No.9895

>>9785

I was here in when we had less than 300 or so posts on this board nigger.


7763af  No.10045

Bump


51459b  No.10077

>>10045

I remember you anon. Good seeing you.


4bf503  No.10227

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>trying to oldfag on a board that's like a year old




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b43a8e  No.9561[Reply]

I noticed in these circles we have a lot of men claim they used to be degenerates but now they're recovered so it's okay. One example which always sticks out to me is a Neo reactionary who was quite well known in the podcasting sphere telling people how he did drugs and slept around as a teenager because he wanted to be like James Bond. This never sat right with me because I always thought it was the sign of a weak man who behaved poorly because of his environment. I knew better than to sleep around because I didn't want a bastard child with some whore. If I slept with someone it had to be someone I could raise a child with. Similarly I did not do drugs because I would rather deal with reality and improving my situation than escaping it.

To me these are qualities any good man should have. I did not do today that which would harm me tomorrow. I wanted to be sharp and living in reality as much as I could be. If I wanted escapism I could watch a movie or play a video game. At any point I could put these things down and walk away, I had control of them they didn't have control of me. These days books fill a similar role and I consider that personal growth as well as a better decision since it avoids Jewish propaganda much easier.

I don't wish to make this a blog post but I must explain my youth so I can use it as a contrast to the youth of these people. They spent their late teens boozing, whoring and often doing drugs. They say they have now reformed and it was Jewish propaganda that lead them to it, but many still do pot or drink alcohol excessively on weekends. To me they are no better than the liberal soy people who spend all day watching Marvel movies and Doctor Who. If you have shown poor behaviour in the past I consider it a good example of poor behaviour in the future. People know the dangers of smoking, alcohol and drugs outside of a medical setting. They willingly did these things through poor judgement. They remind me a lot of born again Christians who think everyone else behaved as they did so it's fine to damn everyone equally to avoid any sort of ego damage or responsibility.

I often compare them to women who slept with multiple guys in college and then wish to settle down so they don't become spinsters. These men have used up their good yPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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b9cce3  No.10161

>>10158

First of all, I do pass "the test." He doesn't by his own admission.

Second, none of the people arguing againt ex-degenerates in this thread sound even remotely close to being better than me, and i'm on the fence about wether they're better than the people they're arguing against. It's nothing but fart-huffing from people who haven't demonstrated a single exceptional quality *other* than their sobreity.

Take your response, for instance. You can't argue against the points I made to you, you can't argu against the logic of my put-down, so you default back to "Degenerate, i'm better than you!" And consider yourself to have won.

You have yet to demonstrate yourslf as being GOOD, let alone better.


7171a9  No.10164

>>10098

Well, as far as my paranoia, I am sure I got that from my family (history of alcoholics etc.), though when it comes to low self-esteem and shit, I don't know how much of it is due to genetics, and how much of that is due to past bullying and my pacifist, be-a-goody-two-shoes-or-you-get-the-belt mother….. I am by no means trying to excuse myself for my condition, but when I look upon my fellows, I see very little actual pro-European and god-forbid pro-White ideological will.

Funnily enough, it is mostly the weirdos, at least in my experience, that are the most aware. Whether it is because they do not give into pop culture, refrain from indulging in degeneracy or other, I find that my rather unsocial-able friends are the most politically awake, and not afraid to speak the uncomfortable truths….


d7f35e  No.10170

>>10164

>History of alchoholics

And that makes your previous logic even more dubious, you see that right?

For what it's worth, i'm not talking about excluding oddballs from the movement, but it has to be a factor of consideration. If it's so engrained into people's nature that thy can't slf-improve, then we can't work with them, for obvious reasons; and if they *can* improve, we still need to consider their condition when it comes to certain objectives- like, say, public speaking or positions of authority.

You see where i'm going with this?


7264cb  No.10190

>>9561

This is retarded and reads like you're trying to elevate yourself above people. How is it a genetic defect to do things everyone in society tells you is good? Do you think there is a gene that allows you to know things without having any access to that kind of information? It is Jewish propaganda that made these people do those things, and I bet you had experiences/upbringing that lead you away from that. You could take Hitler and put him in completely degenerate upbringing and he would turn out bad. Once people understand they've been mislead they deserve a second chance.


7171a9  No.10195

>>10170

Yeah, I guess you're right, I see I was a bit too harsh on these people. Fair point.




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c0d698  No.10172[Reply]

do you think Abe Lincoln had his hand forced by use of money from outside sources to cut a deal with elites over where blacks belong? I've always entertained this theory, that somehow, either der juden or people above him decided his idea of deportation was too extreme and decided to pay him off in exchange for something along the lines of 'progressive integration' through segregation at first. your thoughts?

5b8ccf  No.10181

I remember reading something about his cabinet being full of railroad and steel tycoons who wanted to build railroads through the south. The south had impetus to go to war to continue slavery as an institution, but the Northerners definitely didn't have an impetus to go to war to end slavery as an institution. It was just another capitalist imperialist war.


c0d698  No.10186

>>10181

tbqh, it was imperialism forced on us from above.


9b1781  No.10192

>>10172

You know, Lincoln was dead when niggers were given citizenship


9b1781  No.10194

>>10181

The war wasn't to "end slavery". Even the Emancipation Proclamation did not "end slavery". Why do so many fascists have so little interest in actual history? While the northerners did strongly oppose slavery, it wasn't to free the poor innocent blacks, it was because they feared the "slave power", or the oligarchy of plantation-owning aristocrats, which undeniably dominated the southern state governments. Ever since Bleeding Kansas northerners were certain of a conspiracy to expand slave power to the entire country, and the southerners were just as certain of a conspiracy to abolish slavery entirely. What actually led the southern states to rebel (yes, rebel, there is certainly nothing lawful about their secession and giving them a right to secede by appeal to voluntaryism is anarchism, so the secession was certainly unjustified) was the election of Abraham Lincoln (who won because as the sole abolitionist candidate he got 100% of the abolitionist vote), who promised to completely prevent all expansion of slavery to the western territories. It was before he was even inaugurated that South Carolina took the first step in declaring itself independent of the United States. Naturally, the incoming president refused to recognize this pretended independence, but still desirous of reconciliation he refused just as much to send in troops. There were plenty of federal forts in the south, and the CSA had been buying them from Lincoln's failure of a predecessor, but now Lincoln refused to recognize the CSA, and so refused to negotiate sale with them. The war began when the CSA attacked Fort Sumpter instead. So, why did the north go to war? To defend the Union from the rebellion which sought to destroy it.

The Civil War is often compared to the Revolution, but when we actually look into both, they are eerily the opposite. Whereas the Continental Congress made every attempt at reaching a compromise with parliament, and did not even secede when unjustly attacked, but made one final attempt at peace, the federal government made every attempt at reconciliation with the seceding states, with congress even going so far as to pass a constitutional amendment which would've protected the institution of slavery in the south in perpetuity, the southern elites, like British parliament, refused anytPost too long. Click here to view the full text.




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cdb698  No.10148[Reply]

I got Hitler, Mussolini, Mosley, Evola, Savitri Devi, William L Pierce, Rockwell, Corneliu, David Lane, Hate Bus, Breivek, but I don't know who some of the others are. Plz help, I want to know /fascist/. Is that Enoch Powell? Who's the blonde one with glasses? Who the Leonardo DiCapiro look alike? Why is there a random image of a gun?

5c5f6c  No.10149

>>10148

Anon did you ever stop and think if this was worth making a thread on ? Becouse it was not

You should have posted your question here

>>10


a226f6  No.10150

>>10149

On top of that it's already been posted before

>>4548


700398  No.10151

>>10149

>>10150

OP BTFO.

Now please delete this shit thread




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