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File: 6fd45cd117774e4⋯.png (41.41 KB, 1336x733, 1336:733, No_colonies_Antarctica_bla….png)

1dd398  No.1455

once our plans are set in motion what will the world look like ? what will we be planning to change ? what boarders will change ? we should come up with a map that shows our planned nations pic related as an example but not the actual plan/s

a044b5  No.1459

File: 5749a241a2c64b9⋯.png (274.12 KB, 1056x657, 352:219, my America.png)

I tried to stay within the realm of reality. It's far-fetched but something I'd try to do if I could


aeead9  No.1460

File: 78b7db8894fb33f⋯.png (583.07 KB, 2988x2187, 332:243, 1529893145199.png)


1dd398  No.1462

>>1459

>>1460

ok so we have the plans for the US and Europe but what about the other parts of the world ?


aeead9  No.1464

>>1460

Explaining some things not visible on this map:

Turkey would be under close Greek/Byzantine, Russian and Kurdish surveillance to prevent them from chimping out. The country on the Mediterranean coast of the middle east is obviously not Israel but a Christian kingdom of Jerusalem bearing similarities to the medieval crusader state of the same name. The colonies would be largely self governing but would have to give a portion of their revenue and resources to the colonial overlords and foreign policy would be dictated by the colonial overlords as well, It would overall resemble the system of dominions in the British empire.


1dd398  No.1465

>>1464

not bad anon order will be restored if this is achieved


aeead9  No.1466

>>1462

Working on a version for the whole world.


aeead9  No.1474

File: a7c4cd04fd588fd⋯.png (737.72 KB, 5616x2160, 13:5, mapworld.png)

Thoughts?


aeead9  No.1476

File: 3498dfd21b17e8d⋯.png (742.84 KB, 5616x2160, 13:5, mapworld.png)

>>1474

Correction: I gave Iceland and Greenland to Scandinavia (I forgot to do it in the first one) and gave some colonies to Germany from getting pissed off and starting WW3


1dd398  No.1478

>>1476

i have to say anon it looks marvellous well done


9c65d4  No.1654

File: 2cf51bad3aaa243⋯.png (375.75 KB, 552x552, 1:1, 1451424203839 (2).png)

>borders

>not having the entire world be one country


897d08  No.1663

>>1654

i don't think that would be possible


9c65d4  No.1709

>>1663

>what are WMDs


897d08  No.1726

yeah i am pretty sure that would kill us all of we used them on a world wide scale


7843e4  No.2584

>>1460

what did you use to make this?


2bba0e  No.2593

>Our plans

>In motion

Right. The only plans you screwheads ever have usually involve getting your mommies to do a tendie run for you. Look, I enjoy fiction as much as the next guy, by larping is just fucking gay.


4c5886  No.2596

>>2593

I kind of felt like this was a LARP thread too, although it's mostly harmless. With that said if people are really interested in forming international organizations they should read this thread.

>>>/fascist/1196


5513f5  No.2606

>turkey in red

Anatolia is European: originally Hellenic. The Turks there now are invaders.


1666ea  No.2610

File: b48e462731c8b97⋯.png (1.11 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, europe conquered the plane….png)

File: cf16ea0b82f7e6c⋯.jpg (103.47 KB, 759x440, 69:40, before after pol world pea….jpg)

File: cbcd8692ecb2706⋯.jpg (313.49 KB, 2465x795, 493:159, a world without whites nig….jpg)

File: ff385e3d56e80aa⋯.jpg (382.12 KB, 1232x867, 1232:867, man run the world.jpg)

Wait for it


1666ea  No.2611

File: 85b8c04c0f5ef75⋯.jpg (1.2 MB, 2048x2048, 1:1, boards map.jpg)

File: 2e44fee7e79b5a4⋯.png (1.3 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, south america map.png)

File: e1d11a7878a9fa1⋯.jpg (873.27 KB, 1008x2136, 42:89, what niggers do to your co….jpg)

It's here somewhere


1666ea  No.2612

File: 02216f0866b25d9⋯.png (264.74 KB, 1500x755, 300:151, robot anon's global aryan ….png)

Found.


64f670  No.2613

>>2612

>All of America and Europe under one state

Ewww please no, can't we just have a Fascist NATO?


a044b5  No.2615

>>2612

>all of those superstates

Disgusting. In my perfect LARP world there’d be even more decentralization of power (more federations) and thus more states in general. It’d be shit living in whatever pan-White Union EU clone shown on that map


dd79f3  No.2647

File: d379de5fee23b05⋯.png (892.11 KB, 716x832, 179:208, mosleyd.png)

>>2613

>>2615

This.No thanks,i rather live on my own indepedent country without having to follow the orders of grandfuher richard dickie spencer.

also:

>Egypt and iraq occupied by palestine(how about 1000x no)

>arabia not occupying the entire arabic peninsula which is their rightful clay

>"Suez canal"territory on central africa

>angola and moçambique not completely owned by portugal

>marrocos not being owned by spain

>all of lybia and the african coast not being owned by italy

>mussolinia

>west africa not belonging exclusively to the french

>china being cut down in size

>tibet

>uniting korea and japan turning into koreo-japan

>indian empire

>getting rid of all european nation states to create an international world government for whites

>all of south america being white colonies(i understand for argentina e.t.c,but the other countries when they have their own people(race),culture and indepence separate for whites then shipping them off to africa)

>south africa not being a state of itself

>Russia,turkey uniting with europe and america to form a white ethnostate(how da fuck are turks white?)

this whole map…


1402fc  No.2648

File: 6b767268c50338f⋯.jpeg (30.98 KB, 400x400, 1:1, DISGUSTING.jpeg)

>>1460

>Kosovo is Albania

>Rhineland is France

>Half of Blatic is Russia

>Donbass is Russia

>Holy Land is Italy

>Turkey exists

>Romania gets extra land

>Catalonia and Basque don't exist

>Malta is Italy

>Gibraltar isn't British

>Orkney isn't Scottish

>Bosnia is Croatian

>Macedonia doesn't have it's expanded Ethnic borders

As a European I'm having trouble not thinking you should kill yourself.


1402fc  No.2649

File: 1d629f0c8adeb40⋯.png (952.4 KB, 765x927, 85:103, 1d629f0c8adeb40779c21a6223….png)

>>1459

>giving eastern seaboard to niggers

I cannot begin to explain the existential nightmare. No. This is wrong. Motherfucker have you even heard of harbors? No? Trade? MOTHER FUCKER DO YOU EVEN LIFE?! No, Anon, this is what Mexico is for.


1402fc  No.2651

File: 5417b55c022c606⋯.gif (31.33 KB, 208x200, 26:25, 200_s.gif)

>>1474

>Mexico

>In the United States


1402fc  No.2652

File: 4f4acac2db46342⋯.jpg (436.53 KB, 1024x735, 1024:735, tgferw.jpg)

>>2606

>Anatolia originally Hellenic

What are Hittites?


dd79f3  No.2654

>>2612

made my own version tbh

>>2612


dd79f3  No.2658

File: c7e398e876d99fc⋯.png (59.8 KB, 1425x714, 475:238, up.png)


dd79f3  No.2659

>>2658

had to use same colours,ran out

eritrea and somalia is for italians


a044b5  No.2665

File: 491aba3c939f5e5⋯.jpeg (1.08 MB, 1280x997, 1280:997, 793D0797-D96F-4474-B4BA-1….jpeg)

>>2649

Not my fault so many niggers live in that area


1402fc  No.2670

>>2665

What is deportation?


abeb1e  No.2686

I know you goys have fantasies and ambitions, but are you fuckers aware that this is the 21st century?


f95885  No.2746

>>1455

>Japan and Thailand lumped-in with Maoist bugpeople

No.


55df62  No.2870

>>2658

Panamá is historically Colombian, tho


692889  No.3924

File: 684452b6c188945⋯.png (42.11 KB, 1336x733, 1336:733, 6fd45cd117774e4e5f9f532724….png)


692889  No.3925

>>3924

Korea is supposed to be independent, but united. I forgot.


dcaab2  No.3932

>>1455

>Iran and Afghanistan together

So how does that work given Iranians loathe Afghans?


967ca9  No.3991

File: 19047d3ca3d7f5b⋯.png (41.57 KB, 1352x733, 1352:733, ethnostates.png)

>>1455

ftfy


967ca9  No.3992

File: 2c2f6ebd1e0eeac⋯.png (542.35 KB, 2988x2187, 332:243, ethnic map of europe.png)


55df62  No.4003

File: d6b98c330a61d8e⋯.png (9.18 KB, 639x625, 639:625, SOON.png)

I would be OK with this

No intention of 'getting back' former territories that now are full of chicANOs and liberals


967ca9  No.4064

File: 027728193005880⋯.png (38.95 KB, 1352x733, 1352:733, ethnicities map.png)

>>3991

>>3992

100000 hours in ms paint


4bb976  No.4088

File: 11d0b0c7a88d740⋯.png (640.37 KB, 2988x2187, 332:243, 78b7db8894fb33f546202e964f….png)

>>1460

>creatingetnicconflicts.png\

Nigger wtf. Only civnat cucks want nations to gobble as much territory as they can nowadays, with very few exceptions where that would be doable.

Balkans/Anatolia would still be a very complicated area. In the balkans i'd say the serbs need to steep down permanently as a regional power, since they have proven themselves awfully incompetent in doing so. Croats would probably be the best bet.

Also, purple in north africa means "not our business as long as you don't send us refugee boats".


322417  No.4094

>Brittany is never given independence

>Catalonia still Spanish

>Northern Ireland STILL in the fucking UK instead of Irish or even just Ulster

>Karelia in Russian hands

Fucking map painters


4bb976  No.4096

>>4094

>Brittany is never given independence

I dont think it's doable anymore, very few relevant breton nationalist groups still exist, but i'm not completely against it.

>Catalonia still Spanish

It is on my map.

>Northern Ireland STILL in the fucking UK instead of Irish or even just Ulster

The eternal anglo literally ethnically cleansed all irish there, so it's not really doable.

>Karelia in Russian hands

Because Karelia has been russian ever since the russian people existed?


967ca9  No.4097

>>4096

>Because Karelia has been russian ever since the russian people existed?

Look up the ethnic composition of karelia and the greater finland idea's basis


9dddb3  No.4099

File: 219cd89b8597d53⋯.png (568.8 KB, 788x753, 788:753, A4BC3439-0E8E-46EB-A705-D4….png)

>this entire thread


0cf315  No.4107

>>4099

i am surprised it is even still alive to be honest


b8c3f2  No.4347

>>4099

/thread


692889  No.4600

File: 85ff2a986ecb355⋯.png (42.23 KB, 1336x733, 1336:733, 684452b6c1889450d04d0874e7….png)


44df61  No.4617

I forget what it was called but i recall reading an anecdote about an obscure fascist conference that occurred in the early days of fascism where all the fascists from around the world came.

Apparently it was a disaster. People arguing over each other, all kinds of crazy shit. Francisco franco just sort of stood in the corner thinking everyone was an idiot.

Fascism is nationalistic not international. Although i can see sort of something like "partnerships of convenience" Like germany and japan.

Sort of like a "lets kill all these commies and globalists then go our separate ways" type of deal


44df61  No.4618

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_Montreux_Fascist_conference

CAUR was a network founded in 1933 by Benito Mussolini's Fascist Regime. CAUR's director was Eugenio Coselschi, and its stated goal was to act as a network for a "Fascist International"[1] Major obstacles arose in the organisation's attempt to identify a "universal fascism" and the criteria that an organisation must fulfil in order to qualify as "fascist".[1] Nevertheless, by April 1934 the network had identified "fascist" movements in 39 countries, including all European countries except Yugoslavia, as well as the United States, Canada, Australia, South Africa, five countries in Asia and six in Latin America.[1] As different groups tried to obtain subsidies all manners of conflicts arose on issues such as racism, anti-Semitism, corporatism and state structure.[2]

From the outset, the conference was marred by serious conflicts between the participants. Coselschi, acting as President of the Conference, clashed with Quisling over the importance of Nazi Germany to international fascism.[6] Moța, supported by the Danish and Swiss delegates, likewise created a rift by underlining the centrality of anti-Semitism to fascist movements, a move opposed by Coselschi and O'Duffy.[6] The Romanian Iron Guard stressed the need for race to be an integral component of fascism.[8]

On the matter of anti-Semitism, several compromise resolutions were adopted. These declared that "the Jewish question cannot be converted into a universal campaign of hatred against the Jews" while also stating, "Considering that in many places certain groups of Jews are installed in conquered countries, exercising in an open and occult manner an influence injurious to the material and moral interests of the country which harbors them, constituting a sort of state within a state, profiting by all benefits and refusing all duties, considering that they have furnished and are inclined to furnish, elements conducive to international revolution which would be destructive to the idea of patriotism and Christian civilisation, the Conference denounces the nefarious action of these elements and is ready to combat them.".[6]

The delegates at the conference also unanimously declared their opposition to communist movements and the Third International.[6]

A second and final conference was held in Montreux in April 1935. José Antonio Primo de Rivera made a brief appearance at this conference, using the opportunity to express sympathies with the movement while stating that Spain was not ready to participate in any venture of international fascism because his movement was estrictamente nacional (strictly national).[9]

The conference was not able to bridge the gulf between those participants who proposed achieving national integration by a corporative socio-economic policy and those who favored an appeal to race.[10] Pretensions to "universal fascism" could not survive this rift, and the movement did not meet its goal of acting as a counterbalance to international communism.[10]

The CAUR did not win official endorsement from the Italian Fascist Party or the Spanish Falange. It was unsuccessful either to present a commonly agreed definition as to what "fascism" was or to unite most major fascist parties into one international movement.


c2b793  No.4878

>>1455

First off, there will be no world order. True fascism is against such a thing.

The difference from now would be I think that the nations would work in their self interest only. That means war with other nations, unimposed trade, enforced state religion, etc.

>>1460

I hope you are american so you can claim ignorance as an excuse.

The territory Hungary has on the map taken from Romania was merely an intermediate thing made by Hitler to appease the hungarians to fight on his side and to force the romanians to fight harder for the possibility of regaining that territory.


c2b793  No.4880

>>2615

This.

In my ideal larp world technlogy would decrease to at least the state it was in the 1500s prefferably even to the 1400s or 1300s and stagnate for ever and ever.

>tfw no neofeudal fascist wallachian state led by the Codreanu dinasty


b25daa  No.4881

>>4878

>>4878

>to fight on his side and to force the romanians to fight harder for the possibility of regaining that territory.

Romania dindu nuffin he wuz gud boi


c2b793  No.4886

>>4881

Was.

Fuck carol the second. He made things shittier. If it wasn't for him it could have been Codreanu fighting in ww2 and inspiring the people and Antonescu leading the army.


692889  No.4894

File: ca7c0c25446b08b⋯.png (639.7 KB, 2988x2187, 332:243, 11d0b0c7a88d740df0b18c7271….png)


fab921  No.4917

File: 82e47d996083a4a⋯.png (737.06 KB, 2988x2187, 332:243, fix it fo ya.PNG)

>>4894

You made some mistakes. Don't worry, it's fixed now.


a6c754  No.4919

>Needless balkanization and space filling empires

You faggots are retarded


a044b5  No.4920

>>4917

>making Orkney and Shetland a different country than Scotland

For what reason? I hate map threads


fab921  No.4921

>>4919

No anon, this thread is retarded and fun in a painful way.

>>4920

I only copied map above and fixed the Balkans, for Orkney and Shetland ask >>4894


a044b5  No.4922

>>4921

>I only copied map above and fixed the Balkans, for Orkney and Shetland

Whoops, my bad anon

>>4894

Why the fuck are Shetland and Orkney not part of Scotland?


e966f2  No.4945

File: 4b9f7e18fc52278⋯.png (134.74 KB, 1000x600, 5:3, syria-ssnp.png)

File: e76afc1f3fca706⋯.png (200.34 KB, 1024x792, 128:99, Greater_Serbia_in_Yugoslav….png)

File: 0cca1fd18edbb97⋯.png (70.97 KB, 457x469, 457:469, Map_Greece_Megali_Idea-fr.png)

these are the only changes that the world needs


372fe8  No.4989

File: 966f7bd8283a8d8⋯.png (206.22 KB, 1925x1742, 1925:1742, serveimage.png)

The most moderate, anti-imperialist map here


261a0d  No.5049

>>4989

>No Austria

>Scandinavia united for some reason

>k*rdistan existing

Ill give it strong 7/10 for the effort, best in the thread so far


516b21  No.5128

>>1459

why not genocide?


a044b5  No.5140

>>5128

I don’t see genocide as a good or even desirable tactic. Even if I wanted to genocide all American blacks would it really be worth the resources to kill nearly 40 million people when you could lop off the Southern half of the country and give them their own space?


1b0d5d  No.5141

>>5128

If i were to genocide an entire race i would do it in a "humane way" by giving them all mandatory operations to make them infertile therefore making it impossible for them to have children and so in one generation they would die out without a single bullet being shot


1b0d5d  No.5142

>>5141

let me correct myself that is if they do comply which i doubt that they would so perhaps a few bullets would be shot


13fe08  No.5241

>>5128

Because that's not diplomatic, and plus, it cost a hell of a lot more.

Just let them all starve in fucking Tijuana.


08fde7  No.5579

File: eff35b462155149⋯.png (410.69 KB, 1673x1166, 1673:1166, axis.png)


2c996f  No.5601

File: bf83550fbdf49ef⋯.png (310.75 KB, 1024x1024, 1:1, yeet.png)

>>1455

Recreate the CSA in the Southern territories of Dixie and establish a Fascist state, let the rest burn.


2c996f  No.5602

>>5601

Also destroy the British and American Union


55df62  No.5604

File: 7cabbbe1e8eb586⋯.png (110.8 KB, 1194x1011, 398:337, Karte.png)

>>5601

What about we meet a common ground?

Those south cities are already filled with Mexicans, and it would help to further weaken the (((United States))). I would love to have Alta California whole, but i see no reason on why today should I bother with it. This is not about taking territory for the sake of taking territory


2d3b19  No.5610

>>5604

It doesn't matter what we take at first, you know our goal in the end would be to swallow the US whole and deport everyone we can to mexico and canada.


2c996f  No.5645

>>5604

As long as Mexico becomes Fascist and is willing to work with us then I'd be happy to hand it over.


3d7909  No.5651

>>5579

>gassing poland

>one baltic state

>cucking greece that hard in favor of Alb*nia

>turkey still exists

okay faggot


692889  No.6232

>>5049

Why should Austria exist? It should have as much autonomy from Germany as Bavaria or Saxony or any other region.


692889  No.6234

>>4989

>Iraq not part of Syria, nor are the Alawites or Lebanon

>Eastern Thrace not part of Greece

>disunified Maghreb

>Galicia not part of Portugal

>Finland united with Estonia

>Ireland not united

>no independent Brittany or Occitania

>Navarre too small

>Budjak not part of Romania

>strange mess in Bosnia


692889  No.6254


692889  No.6255

File: bcc4c1cc136cc7e⋯.png (75.69 KB, 1194x1011, 398:337, 7cabbbe1e8eb5861d712fadda3….png)


65acb9  No.6256

>>6255

>reconquista

>independent Louisiana

I swear this thread is an elaborate ruse


692889  No.6259

>>6256

It's not independent. It's part of France.


1ed893  No.6307

File: 6ff5e0777b4fbed⋯.png (50 KB, 1365x729, 455:243, scenario.png)

This is how i sort of want the world to be perhaps you disagree and that is fine we all have opinions


203743  No.6311

File: 3f5246db9eb067d⋯.png (68.03 KB, 420x420, 1:1, cdc449a0dab8a02c687a4e03bb….png)

>>6307

>My country remains independent

Good.


12d34a  No.6329

>>6255

>>>6255

>Norarn Texas does not have a significant Mexican population but a significant American population. It would be de-stabalizing to annex a good amount of un-loyal people into a country. We are already taking a great risk with taking ChicANOs and oar minorities used to a American way of life

>And we could not use a same measures that we could use in California to cause a massive exodus since we want a new confederate states to be an ally against a American union

>Also, why is a board on Weeb-speak?


203743  No.6340

>>6329

we just got hacked


971347  No.6426

Every single map that doesn't return at least Prussia and Silesia to Germany is delusional. Once Germans are going to have regained their independence and solved their internal problems, taking back these territories and regermanizing them is going to be one of the very first things they'll do. I dare you to find a German ethnonationalist who disagrees with that


83d8bf  No.6432

like I said in the other thread, The Handmaid's Tale but with an economy that is 75% socialist, 25% capitalist.


e9ed84  No.8653

>>6426

posen stays polish though, originally prussia was just silesia, brandenburg and teutonic order


63c913  No.8655

>>1459

I think the only way America could have a national socialist-like nation is to give blacks their own state, but man, that is way too much fucking land.


f0f5e5  No.8681

>>1459

Southerner here. I would rather all the whites in America be killed than hand over my sacred homeland. Send the nigger to Michigan, it'll be better for them


52bcef  No.8703

Ban any supposed Mexican "Fascist" posters because they are the enemy of America and Whites in general.


459788  No.8709

>>8703

Shall I remind you that the Union of Mexican Synarchists believed that all Mexicans and "Chicanos" living abroad should return to Mexico, the "Golden Land".


678a56  No.8717

>>5579

if you get the chance you should probably kill yourself.


5b0196  No.8720

>>8703

>begging for bans

>ever

fuck off back to /pol/


74c268  No.8721

File: 9b66fa1ab84a030⋯.jpg (3.09 MB, 2988x2187, 332:243, 8chan map.jpg)

>>1460

gibs Polish clay


f58c00  No.8751

File: dde4dcbc9ce4047⋯.jpg (908.9 KB, 4972x2517, 4972:2517, JSR9h7z.jpg)


5b0196  No.8752

File: 562dfd2ed9abeea⋯.jpg (52.5 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, trash.jpg)

>>8751

>my land becomes an ancapistan dystopia

Into the trash it goes


4835a5  No.8755

File: 336028a6631df4f⋯.png (206.68 KB, 1096x1096, 1:1, yuropa.png)

File: 3f063b6693808e8⋯.png (207.46 KB, 1096x1096, 1:1, carthage.png)

Made two maps.

The last map is a shitpost.


e9ed84  No.8756

File: 8a234e62db50fbd⋯.jpg (50.05 KB, 900x900, 1:1, 8a234e62db50fbd1ac8f6f2995….jpg)

>>8755

>carthage owns sicily

disgusting


3b0ba3  No.8760

>>8752

literally this

I like what happens to africa though


76847c  No.11298

File: 418328a0a18ba05⋯.png (119.19 KB, 1194x1011, 398:337, AB80E0F3-BE4C-4C38-8C40-DD….png)

>>8655

>>5604

>>6255

Indians should have their own homeland too tbh, also the leftist and neoliberals can have part of the Pacific NW.


a4e5e4  No.11307

File: e3e1d68531f0b3c⋯.png (615.61 KB, 4500x2592, 125:72, perfect world.PNG)

The New World Order, circa 2100


7c99f0  No.11308

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b54c71  No.11332

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I made this map a long ass time ago and I didn't know what to do with the Middle East but now I'm thinking most of it will go to Italy ala Spazio Vitale and the rest to France and Great Britain. That is, now I would pretty much let Germany colonize half of Russia and border Ukraine. I hate Poland and would not be against a full annex by Germany and a racial genocide. This is just me, personally I think a global Aryan Imperium is much more preferable than nationalism


12d34a  No.11380

>>11298

Most Indians have being displaced, and there are people living in those places that have done so for generations, those people have a living history (For this reason it is also not logical for germans to want to re-claim East-Prussia since it is already filled with poles)

Indian reservations are another story, they are shallowly similar to Mexico's « Self-Rule » cities, but legally are not so well integrated into the country. For me that is a problem since you want to create a common identity and not have enclaves in a Zoo-like system. This if you want to have manny peoples under your flag, the easiest since people will naturally migrate and go to those who are like them, then do as I said in another thread and be like an empire, governing over manny distinct peoples who are politically and culturally intertwined but not necessarily genetically

I would still want a Confederate States of America to Exist, as a sign of gratitude for supporting Emperor Maximilian and the Second Mexican empire

>>11307

Fill AnPrim Utopia with cameras and make a TV show out of it, you already have Ugandans making planes on their backyards, it will be crazy


73d6a6  No.11422

> these maps

Castizo here, no fucking way am I sharing an ethno-state with taco niggers and literal sub-human Zambos. We need an ethno-state too; preferably the Yucatan peninsula to northern Columbia.


ec2f80  No.11427

>>11307

>American Aryan Colony

>COLONY

Euros still think they own us, huh?


a49aee  No.11428

>>1460

Holy shit just leave Ukraine and Belarus alone, haven't they suffered enough? What is with the British Isles? What's with Scandinavia. I am sorry but this sucks.


9970e9  No.11432

>>11380

>Implying that Injuns don't deserve to be put in zoos for hogging up all of that good land and supporting the British Tories and other capitalist Jewry against a chance for white workers to free themselves from feudal and capitalist oppression.

Say with it with me:

MANIFEST DESTINY NOW AND FOREVER!


ba5f89  No.11437

File: 70dcbc9eea67e42⋯.jpg (27.83 KB, 244x270, 122:135, putin liberator.jpg)

>>11428

>Ukraine and Belarus

Literally who?


12d34a  No.11438

>>11422

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You can have ALL Mexicans under your wing without it being a mix-bag

>Yucatán

That's Mayan clay, it should be respected as such without letting them out of the Empire.

Much rather flood Mexico City (or CDMX, like all the cool kidz call it these days), have Tepito, Doctores and all those horrid places be gone and make Mexico City a true model city

>no fucking way am I sharing an ethno-state with taco niggers and literal sub-human Zambos.[…] preferably the Yucatan peninsula to northern Columbia.

That goes though Veracruz, the second blackest state at a whopping 2%

>>11437

M-mommy, what's the Russian Liberator going to do to us?


76847c  No.11440

>>11380

I guess some form of commonwealth could be formed with each race having their own commonwealth, but adhering to the same Government/Culture. Also recreating the CSA would be ideal imo.


12d34a  No.11443

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>>11440

There is no other option –I'll use my country as an example–. The Aztec Empire was that, an empire made up of different tribes and city-states under the Aztec control.

There are 68 recognized languages spoken in México, 67 of them being native, seeing all indios as the same is like an African American thinking that Africa is an homogeneous continent with the single culture of not being white. México should be divided not by the states we today have, but more meaningful borders, the Central American states also should go back to the Union, their separation was put to a vote and now the Mayan peoples are divided in at least five countries, the biggest native language group is not united due to a crude vote.

Taking some aspects of monarchism could help us legitimize us historically and attack the myth of liberalism by displaying Iturbide and Maximilian as tragic heroes and all modernist forces that too us to a republic as evil. The fact that the current heir's name can be resumed to « Maximiliano II de Iturbide » only makes things more saucy, even if there is not possibility for him to take the throne due to his age, nationality and general disinterest.

Back to the US, its situation is very different, it came to this world preaching manny things that have shown to be erroneous, so destroying the former myth would be an atrocity, instead you should simplify those values and the show –let's say– the Confederacy as a legitimate evolution of the US. In this case fascism will be more spiritual than administrative, at least on its early stages.


b02121  No.11509

File: 860e02ed07df2bb⋯.png (1.25 MB, 5976x4374, 332:243, ideal yurop.png)


b02121  No.11510

>>11332

>Ireland exists

>Portugal doesn't

>French Corsica

>Italian Egypt?

>Bulgaria devouring Macedonia

nice map editing but your ideas for an ideal map are complete garbage


05d136  No.11521

>All these maps

Most of them have France as a single entiry (instead of Occitania and Brittany being independent), but make in Spain several retarded divisions. France should be like this (if divided):

>Occitania indepedent or part of Catalonia

>Brittany independent

>The north of France as an independent region with the south of Belgium

And Spain (if divided) should look like this:

>Basque country (Spanish and French) united with Navarre

>Cantabria, Castille and the very north of Andalusia together as a nation

>Asturias (and maybe Leon) independent

>Galicia and northern Portugal as a nation

>Southern Portugal, most of Andalusia and northwestern Africa as another independent nation

>Catalonia, Valencia and the isles independent

However, I think France and Spain should remain united or as federations, but if they were to split up, that's roughly how they should be divided. For the rest of Europe I'm not going to say anything because I don't know shit about the internal divisions of those countries.


4a8a0d  No.11559

>>4088

>asturias in portugese hands.

they created Spain why arent they Spanish


c553b7  No.11560

>>1460

Why would Åland Islands and parts of Southern/Western Finland belong to Sweden/Scandinavia? Swedes have always thought that Finns (even people living in Åland Islands) are different from them. However, an union of all Nordic Countries could be possible, since all Nordic Countries have sufficiently similar culture.


22a4f5  No.11561

>>11509

Why'd Slovakia exist? Tell me?

It's to Hungary what Bohemia is to Germany.


17fd9a  No.11627

File: 348b5fcf85d6898⋯.jpg (456.19 KB, 3000x1808, 375:226, eurasia east.jpg)

File: 000da236051bdec⋯.jpg (485.33 KB, 3500x1879, 3500:1879, yurop.jpg)

File: 8369812ecc1d969⋯.jpg (377.84 KB, 2500x2282, 1250:1141, africa.jpg)

Made by International NazBol gang. Maps aren't entirely based on ethnic groups or tribes, so it's just geopolitical superstates instead.


17fd9a  No.11628

File: 3d4678bea1b7f96⋯.jpg (154.41 KB, 1248x1321, 1248:1321, southandcentralamerica.jpg)

>>11627

Forgot this one.


c017dc  No.11629

>>11510

Gotta a problem with Ireland?


f59fb7  No.11635

>>2652

He's right you know…


f50c36  No.11636

File: 5f595240371230e⋯.jpg (369.46 KB, 1280x868, 320:217, Perfect China map.jpg)

This is the perfect map of China. You may not like what you see but this is what peak performance looks like


756d9a  No.11637

>>11636

>worst korea left independent from best korea

Map discarded.


f50c36  No.11644

>>11637

China, I said CHINA


6bdcde  No.11735

Stop LARPing take action.

And by that I don’t mean bombing some government building.


e742cd  No.11780

File: 58e0a6495b6fc30⋯.png (1.72 MB, 1654x933, 1654:933, 144.PNG)

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e742cd  No.11781

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1b4cb2  No.11817

>>1459

>>1459

t. yankee fucktard with no tie to his land

would literally rather live with negros in the south than move north and give up the my literal fucking home land just to live in some white """"utopia""""


71d130  No.11830

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I did this side of the world because I know it better

Very basic, I am too tired to go more into it.

Black Area = I don't care / Territory for human waste


d90294  No.11839

File: 36b929830f32870⋯.png (112.03 KB, 1280x1940, 64:97, fur anon.png)

>>11830

I tried to make it look better with another map because it deserved so


d90294  No.11840

>>11636

>east turkestan left independent

>(((wahabbis)))


f65ae1  No.11880

File: 8c350f9d478fcca⋯.png (588.61 KB, 5616x2160, 13:5, YXCRpgK2.png)

I'm currently using Victoria II's world map but it just isn't detailed enough to draw lines correspondent to linguistic, historic or ethnic borders. I'm also missing landmarks like rivers, cities, mountains, deserts for reference.

What tools are there for map making autism? I can't find anything on that on the internet.


b2edf4  No.11881

>>11830

>>11839

If this hypothetical US wants to not end up in the same state it's in now, it makes more sense to extend the border down to somewhere near Panama.


a5ff53  No.11882

Creating a new world order is fucking retarded as it is one of the biggest things we have been fighting against. All we have to do is leave our own countries alone, integrate "countries" like Kosovo back into their respective father countries and nuke Israel if they can't keep to themselves.


83d8bf  No.11883

>>1464

>implying Kurds should exist


f50c36  No.11890

>>11882

There are two problems with that

First that today's borders and Status Quo cause a lot of trouble, they are far from perfect and a reset would be nice. There are ethnic groups that hate each other together in the same country, similar tribes being separated by borders, countries that should not even exist, etc.

Second is that if we were to try to just do things on our own we will very quickly find out that there are manny disagreements on how things should be, so it is better to plan ahead and discuss this.

The real « Problems » is when kiddies waste time on power fantasies and take them seriously, they are only showing ignorance most of the time wit their completely absurd maps. The other one is when wh*tes try to keep on committing on their God-sent mission to nanny all brown people, they –we– are never going to grow up as a society if we keep relying on Europeans, thank you for all the things you have taught us, but in is within our best interest to mind our own business, we must rise and fall on our own.

And fuck you whoever wants to convert my country into Negroland, keeping the very celebrated State's man « Johnny Rebel »'s plan; sent those back to Africa and blow up all the ports so they cannot come back until they develop technology and society to support it on their own, or even have them realize that the western concept of a State does not apply to Africa and that they will be much better off going back to a nomadic life where their hardiness will shine. Then we all can be best friends

>>11628

>Zapatistas

The moment the jungle ends they will panic and take cover under the nearest bush

Their biggest offense if their God-awful aesthetic, they look like those sock puppet monkeys during a rebellious phase and no amount of black and white pictures of some old man who gave up years ago smoking a pipe will fix that


45f723  No.11896

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>>11880

>Vicky 2

That's actually the DH paintable map.

The Victoria 2 map was used in that autistic piece of ISIS propaganda posted a couple years ago showing the borders of their ideal caliphate though.


45f723  No.11897

>>11896

Wait, that's a different map. They look really similar though.


76847c  No.11900

>>11443

>Back to the US, its situation is very different, it came to this world preaching manny things that have shown to be erroneous, so destroying the former myth would be an atrocity, instead you should simplify those values and the show –let's say– the Confederacy as a legitimate evolution of the US. In this case fascism will be more spiritual than administrative, at least on its early stages.

This is why I think Distrubtism with a mix of the Corporative system would be the best economic system for a fascist America. Distributism would put the needs of the family unit at the center of society rather than the individual. Local autonomy is also a distributist and an American value (states rights), this mindset could also be applied to race.


c90fdc  No.11916

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>>11830

>>11839

>not absorbing Canada into the United States to expand Aryan Lebensraum

The merger of Canada and the US is inevitable and desirable from racial, economic and living-space perspectives. The Canadian economy is already highly dependent on that of America’s and nearly 3 million Canadians already work or live full time here. Each country is the biggest investor in the other a merger would provide the world with an economy larger than the European Union’s—larger, in fact, than those of China, Taiwan, Japan and South Korea combined. We would control more oil, water, arable land and resources than any jurisdiction on Earth, all protected by the world’s most powerful military. With 7,651,842 sq miles we would be the largest nation on the planet.

Uniting under a pro-white fascist government is the only way to avoid a unification or integration between Mexico, the US and Canada in some form of grotesque (((American Union))) with freedom of movement. Personally the only use I see for Mexico is as a dumping ground for America’s non-white population. Dump ‘em in the Mexican desert and let the Mexicans contend with what they’ve been doing to us for decades.


f50c36  No.11918

>>11916

>>11839

>>11830

>Sending them to Mexico

I have a much better idea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XU7e-7DK1M


c90fdc  No.11919

File: 9b8a7fe45ef9737⋯.jpeg (44.94 KB, 608x477, 608:477, 752216A1-A2A9-436E-96B4-D….jpeg)

>>11918

Mexico is ideal from a logistical standpoint. I can’t imagine the nightmare of trying to transport 14% of America’s population – some 46,000,000 people across the Atlantic Ocean. Looking at examples from history I can’t even find anything nearing this scale. The Nakba displaced some 700,000 Palestinians so we’d be attempting some approximately ~66 times larger, the USSR moved around roughly 20,000,000 people in its population transfers in a thirty year period—not even half of what we’re talking about, and Pol Pot emptied out Phnom Penh of 2.5 million people and resettled them, but the last two are internal migration. This would have to be the forced emigration of 46 million blacks plus all other non-whites. It’s logistically insane to the point where even Mexico is seeming implausible. Obviously the proposed “Black Homeland” solution has proved to be very unpopular with Southern anons for understandable reasons so beyond instigating the largest population transfer in human history and dumping them over the border where they’ll likely die in droves, the only other plausible solution would have to be targeted population-planning by raising taxes on non-white families with too many children, forced abortions, sterilizations, or China-like policies restricting the amount of children these individuals could have. Or to get even more stringent, enact some sort of “birth ban” – something I think would be almost without precedent. Either way we go we’re looking at what will be labeled genocide and on a bigger scale than the Jews allege the holohoax was. It’s sad that America is in such a mess in the first place.

Writing this post was a bit blackpilling to be honest, as I was mainly thinking as I typed. This isn’t even getting into public opinion

>mfw


967838  No.11940

File: 2f618671c12110d⋯.jpg (93.86 KB, 625x720, 125:144, 1550044552128.jpg)

>>4003

Honestly fuck chicanos they are the worst type of wetback beaner that even somehow more obnoxious and retarded than the actual mexicans, they claim they are "mexican" but in reality they are just mestizos born in America that think they are automatically Mexican because they had a spanish mother or fathers


5565c0  No.11967

Are we once again filled with mutts? I wish those deformed subhuman muttants would just fuck off to >>>/hybrid/


71b968  No.11971

File: 43751cfd4b231fb⋯.png (1.52 MB, 6460x3480, 323:174, q.png)

gonna piss off a lot of people


76847c  No.12453

File: 3eff84fe90f7cdd⋯.png (116.2 KB, 1194x1011, 398:337, 5CF52B67-428A-414B-9EDA-35….png)

>>11919

>>11916

>>11918

>>11919

Sending them to Mexico would also be a terrible thing to do imo. Blacks have no connection with Mexico at all, and would destroy Mexico’s culture. I’m against destroying any culture wether it’s white or nonwhite. American blacks also have no connection to Africa either, and as you said sending them all back to Africa would be a nightmare and a lot of people would die. There’s a few other options that would be plausible.

>Give them Louisiana and Mississippi and deport them all there

>Deport them all to Haiti, Jamaica, and Cuba

The best solution imo is recreating the CSA and deporting all blacks to the North. >>11422

The southwest and part of California sand Texas is the ideal Castizo ethnostate. pic related


76847c  No.12454

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>>12453

Forgot to add this to the map, also I’m from Arizona there’s a lot of Castizos here.


e40e54  No.12459

>>12453

Wouldn't it make more sense to create the CSA to send all the blacks there instead? Most blacks are already in the south anyway.


76847c  No.12460

>>12459

This thread is a LARP thread, but yeah you’re right. They don’t need the entire south though, they only need like 2-4 states. That’s why I suggested sending them to Louisiana and Mississippi, those 2 states have the largest black populations in the US. Also I just want to see a neo-confederacy, and another anon said that most southerners wouldn’t be willing to give up the entire south to blacks.


780021  No.12461

>>12460

>>12453

>>12454

>>12460

>another falangist

holy shit please tell me you're a castizo too


76847c  No.12463

File: 0c3f03bcfada92d⋯.jpeg (60.3 KB, 487x373, 487:373, A8CDB84D-F634-46C9-820A-7….jpeg)

>>12461

I’m a Castizo, we’re of the same stock.

Castizo Falangism now


780021  No.12464

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76847c  No.12465

>>12464

>neinchan

I’ll check it out, I already joined the discord. .


780021  No.12466

>>12465

we're in the general voice chat


780021  No.12467

>>12465

dm me @ El goblino castizo de Americas


76847c  No.12468

>>12467

I just dm’d you


f50c36  No.12471

>>12454

There are more chicanos than anything else, Believe me, you do not want them

I do not know what should be done with them, they are not Mexican, but they are also unable to make a working society as they are dependent on American administration


76847c  No.12475

>>12471

I’m well aware of the Chicano problem, I had to deal with them everyday when I was in high school. I don’t want them in my society either, they’ve basically become negrified and the majority are mestizos. Idk where they would belong since they obviously can’t be integrated back into Mexican society, and you’re right they have become too dependent on the American system.

My Spanish side of my family has been in Arizona since the 1860s, that’s why I have somewhat of a connection to this state. I would be willing to move somewhere else, but idk if I would be accepted in a white society and I don’t know anything about Mexican culture either and I feel no connection to it whatsoever. I’ve become very anglicized due to my Mom’s side of the family, and I have majority European genes.


f50c36  No.12485

>>12475

Castizos have a lot in common with northern Mexicans, so right at the border is a good place, not Mexico but neither USA. It would be a nice gradient, South of Mexico has a majority of Natives, Center you have Mestizos, go further north you will find mestizos with a higher European percentage until you find castizos, lastly you have Anglos. Is a structure that just makes sense for me, the South had all important Mesoamerican civilizations –Now I need to take modernity out of their spirits– while the increasingly arid north was only populated once European industries were established, thus creating a genetic gradient.

Although, I have the interest to unite Alta California –Or a section of it– with its two Mexican sisters, I only want the dessert, scrubs, shrubland and chaparrals –Costal shrublands–, Basically draw a horizontal line from the Bay of San Francisco and go south


a044b5  No.12488

>>12453

>Sending them to Mexico would also be a terrible thing to do imo. Blacks have no connection with Mexico at all, and would destroy Mexico’s culture. I’m against destroying any culture wether it’s white or nonwhite.

This is probably just a philosophical difference between us. To me it doesn’t matter what connection blacks have with Mexico or whether it would destroy Mexico’s culture and capacity. Once they’re over the border, it’s none of our concern. They can consider it a thank-you gift for all of the drugs and human filth they’ve let flow into this country for decades.

From a realistic perspective though I think it would be better to do what I touched upon in my post concerning logistics and deportation. Sure, we can deport a fraction of them to Mexico or elsewhere, but with tens of millions of people it’s frankly unrealistic. Racially-targeted antinatalist policies along with cuts to their standard of living (education, job opportunities, etc) would be far more effective. Hitting them where it hurts is what cripples a people. Without good education and economic prospects they’d quickly devolve into their ape-like and lazy natures in the blink of an eye as soon they realize that the white world has begun to reject them.

But, pragmatically speaking the most important thing to do overall is to 1) stop the inflow of further non-white immigrants, 2) prevent miscegenation and 3) increase white birth-rates. If we can cut off the flow and secure an existence for white people within a (temporary) multiracial framework, we should not reject it dogmatically, especially since it is by far the most likely outcome


76847c  No.12490

>>12485

>north you will find mestizos with a higher European percentage until you find castizos

I’m aware of this, my great grandmother was from Sonora and she had very fair skin.

>Although, I have the interest to unite Alta California –Or a section of it– with its two Mexican sisters, I only want the dessert, scrubs, shrubland and chaparrals –Costal shrublands–, Basically draw a horizontal line from the Bay of San Francisco and go south

I honestly don’t care if you take back part of California, it’s practically Mexico at this point.

>>12488

Checked and heil’d

>But, pragmatically speaking the most important thing to do overall is to 1) stop the inflow of further non-white immigrants, 2) prevent miscegenation and 3) increase white birth-rates. If we can cut off the flow and secure an existence for white people within a (temporary) multiracial framework, we should not reject it dogmatically, especially since it is by far the most likely outcome

Agreed, we’ll most likely be stuck with them. This is similar to what Cultured Thug advocates for, I remember him saying that if it didn’t work out he would we would have to split amongst racial and ethnic lines, or like you said send them somewhere like Mexico.


a044b5  No.12501

>>12490

>This is similar to what Cultured Thug advocates for

He's got a lot of the right ideas, I feel. People sometimes like to deride him as a "civnat", but in reality I think he is more of an ethnonationalist who sees America (correctly, I'd add) as a multinational state. I really hope Thug tries to get something going IRL one day, I'd probably make the trip to meet up, he's the dude who got me beyond merely just browsing /pol/


76847c  No.12503

>>12501

It’s mostly alt right spergs that call him a civnat, which I find ironic since Eric Striker has a similar populist view as CT.

>I really hope Thug tries to get something going IRL one day

I hope so too, he said he changed his mind on running for local office in 5-10 years, now he plans on running in 4-5 years. So I think we’ll see something form in a few years.

>he's the dude who got me beyond merely just browsing /pol/

The same happened to me, I feel like he’s motivated and inspired a lot of us. That’s probably why his channel got shoa’d.


f50c36  No.12525

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>>12490

I will be making Pinot-Noir in California then. The Californias; Alta California –Today's California–, Baja California –Upper half of the peninsula– and Baja California Sur –Southern Half– will have everything from a tropical dry forest –Southern tip- to alpine mountains. Along side Sinaloa and Michoacán they will become the biggest agricultural zone in the Empire. California is now the most important agricultural zone in the US, but even like that the US is still dependent on Mexico when it comes on food, so it is most likely being misused or I am overstating it's importance, most likely the first, too much almond and such low-production crops

>Years after the annexation of 3/4 of the former State of California by the Third Mexican Empire under the justification ethno-nationalism it was found out in an old archived forum post that the real reason for the annexation was that some kid wanted to make more wine


76847c  No.12530

>>12525

>California is now the most important agricultural zone in the US, but even like that the US is still dependent on Mexico when it comes on food, so it is most likely being misused or I am overstating it's importance, most likely the first

The South is still very important when it comes to agriculture, it’s still very easy to grow food there. And the misuse of California’s agriculture is caused by the (((Resnick’s))), they control the almond and pistachio industry and they’ve also privatized California’s water supply. They use up more water than Los Angeles, it’s insane what these people are doing to California’s environment. Also the soil in the US has been depleted due to factory farming and Industrialized agriculture. That’s why we’re somewhat dependent on Mexico for food, and outsourcing of course.


9970e9  No.12531

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>>12525

Shut the fuck up, spic. I'll rather holocaust every damn spic than lose a single inch of American soil to you faggots.

Mexico should be balkanized to be honest. Independent Rio Grande. A Yucatan/Mayan confederation. And, Baja California conquered and ethnically cleansed along with actual California.

Seriously, I have nothing but pure, bitter hatred for La Raza types. You're filthy scabs who came up North to steal jobs and work in latifundas. Fuckers like you are perpetrators of globalist capitalism.

The only good spic is a dead spic, and I think America should invade Mexico and butcher as many spics as possible to punish that shitty country for fucking up our border. All drug cartels should be carpet bombed with napalm, and the entire Mexican government executed publicly on both television and webstream. Mexico City should get nuked.

By the time we're done with Mexico, it'll NEVER have any ambition to take American clay again. I want spics to fear the white man now and forever.


a044b5  No.12534

>>12531

Based post. Mexicans are out of control on this board


c95076  No.12536

>>12534

ooga booga, gibs me free shit gringo

t. half spic


76847c  No.12540

>>12536

Based and redpilled


c95076  No.12543

>>12540

based fellow Castizbro


53549b  No.12545

>>11298

I disagree with giving lefties any sort of nation. They are to become intermixed with mexicans like they've always wanted.


76847c  No.12562

>>12545

I’ve changed my mind on Balkanization of the US, but I think if we were to gain power California would secede. And you’re right though leftist don’t deserve a nation, if Mexico annexes California and all the costal leftist go with them then tough shot.


1481aa  No.13102

>>8755

Basque Corsica? Cool


2259d0  No.13179

>>1459

Fuck that, you yankee piece of shit. You faggots are the ones who wanted them free. I'd rather give them New England, it would serve you right.


fdcfd6  No.13182

File: 60bb6784a6d5aea⋯.jpeg (243.37 KB, 1280x874, 640:437, 0E954F4A-3112-4B9F-84A2-F….jpeg)

>>13179

>You faggots are the ones who wanted them free.

This is the bluepilled position. It was the capitalists who saw an interest in destroying the Southern economy for their benefit. The South had fallen further and further behind in economic development as compared to the North. The capitalists knew that slave labor was economically expensive because all of the capital was tied up or frozen in that form of labor. It hindered the development of the home market for local industry and retarded economic development. Slaves can’t be consumers. Slaves can’t go work for other industries, they’re not even educated enough. The Jew wants to atomize and mix up all races, and blacks were not as atomized when in plantations with their racial kinsmen. So they destroyed the South and paved the way for a consumer class and room for development


f50c36  No.13185

File: 76dd8cf114a5514⋯.jpg (49.6 KB, 781x640, 781:640, so-cal-biomes-final-flat-f….jpg)

>>13182

>>13179

I disagree with the idea of slavery, but giving the South (precious, precious South) to the blacks instead of southerners is almost as bas as leaving it to the Yankees

>>12545

What about we turn the place into another Gaza? Offer the idea of California being leftist multicultural heaven, cut the water supply, let their unsustainable social systems take their toll and then come back for the clean up?

California is the technological, mediatic and liberal center of all, it too perfect

>>12530

>privatized California’s water supply.

The former governor of Baja California spoke about desalinization plants. Now that NazBol's favorite party won it won't happen, but it is an interesting idea none the less

Reverse osmosis is a very expensive procedure; you are forcing water against the concentration gradient, it needs energy. Luckily the Mexicali valley has little overcast and it would make a nice candidate for solar cells and solar steam turbines. Alongside geothermal energy thanks to the San Andrés fault and changing our lifestyles to use less water I believe it could work.

South California has a section of the Sonoran Desert, it's low elevation and little overcast makes for a good candidate for an energy plant


f8835e  No.15446

File: 317e98af60a6b0e⋯.png (126.75 KB, 1245x953, 1245:953, Mips.png)

>>1455

I think I finally fixed it all


fedeed  No.15452

>>5601

>Missouri

No


b7d2b9  No.15458

>>15446

>giving 95% Hungarian Tiszántúl and Kárpátalja - a place with almost no district with Romanian majority inside of it - to Romania

It's shit.


76847c  No.15481

File: 24c71439f465c45⋯.png (71.35 KB, 1336x733, 1336:733, C2A4E128-5D09-414C-94A4-57….png)

>>15446

European I M P E R I U M is the only way, and sorry if I fucked up on some boarders. I tried my best


a044b5  No.15484

>>15481

>not reclaiming most of ANATOLIA as rightful Greek clay


76847c  No.15494

>>15484

I was going to do that, but decided not to. I was also going to do it with Syria as well, I gave Armenia it’s rightful Anatolian clay though.


e40e54  No.15496

Why do so many plebs deny the aesthetic of Britannia united?


f3960e  No.15527

>>15458

I tried to imitate the region called Crişana with the provinces in the map. The argument for Romania owning that region is not demographical, but rather historical, it has been populated by Romanians until the conquest of the carpathian plateau by the magyars and the forced magyarization, just like Szekelyland.


3707f0  No.15532

>>1474

What's your reason for giving the Philippines its own color?


3707f0  No.15533

>>15532

Or is it part of the USA?


e03b5f  No.15534

>>15527

>it has been populated by Romanians

Even the half of Körösvidék that is now under Romanian occupation didn't have a majority Romanian population until the end of the 18th century and Tiszántúl never had a majority Romanian population.

>carpathian plateau

*Carpathian Basin

>forced magyarization, just like Szekelyland.

There are neither archeological nor archived sources proving that the Tiszántúl, Körösvidék or Erdély had Romanian population at all up until the beginning of the 12th century. The magyars settled inside Transylvania and in the majority of the Carpathian Basin between 895-900, from which they conquered Dunántúl and the western parts of todays Slovakia in the first few years of the 10th century. "Forced magyarization" didn't happen up until the 1880s, as in the middle ages and in the early modern era the concept was unknown and unnecessary.

>but what about Anonymous and Simon of Kéza

Secondary sources intended to record and justify the political and societal status quo of the Kingdom of Hungary.


1c97c6  No.15547

>>15534

>the political and societal status quo of the Kingdom of Hungary

*of the 12-13th century


0684d0  No.15551

>>15534

Anonymous didn't talk only about Transylvania, it is amusing to see the hungarians hate him when he talks about transylvania, but also say that he tells very important things for magyar history, like I. Melich and J. Jakubowich say.

Crişana also contained a Romanian minority for a long time and the other regions were almost 50/50 after the Hungarian oppression


0684d0  No.15552

>>15551

*the other region that you say had a Romanian minority


0684d0  No.15553

>>15552

*regions

Third time's the charm, I admit my sin of phone posting


e03b5f  No.15557

File: 6fd843c988cdea3⋯.jpg (80.94 KB, 800x522, 400:261, 800px-Ethnic_map_of_11th_c….jpg)

>>15551

>Anonymous didn't talk only about Transylvania, it is amusing to see the hungarians hate him

I don't hate neither Anonymous nor Simon of Kéza, I just stated a fact. Gesta Hungarorum and Chronica Pictum to Hungary is like Gesta Francorum to the past Kingdom of Jerusalem.

>he tells very important things for magyar history,

Indeed, he and Simon of Kéza are highly reliable sources when it comes to Hungarian history during the 12-13th century, but not when they write about the settlement of the Hungarians or mostly anything before their life. Transylvania was under Bulgarian occupation before the Hungarians arrived at the end of the 9th century and the beginning of the 10th century, while the vlachs - the actual ancestors of the Romanians - were living south of Danube, deep inside the Balkans before migrating to Wallachia and Moldavia during the 12-13th century, with a portion of them settling inside Transylvania.

>Crişana also contained a Romanian minority for a long time and the other regions were almost 50/50 after the Hungarian oppression

Until the Turkish invasion of the central areas of the Carpathian Basin (middle to late 16th century) didn't Körösvidék have a sizeable Romanian population. Transylvania is similar in that the second wave of the Romanian migration towards it was caused by Wallachia and Moldavia putting increased financial and other burdens on their peasantry, forcing them to migrate towards Transylvania and the Körösvidék in hope of a better life. Even Vasile Lupu - Moldavian prince between 1634 and 1656 - didn't amount the Romanian population residing inside Transylvania to more than 1/3 of the total Transylvanian population in his letter sent to the Turkish sultan in 1650. The shift towards Romanians becoming a majority both in Transylvania and in the eastetn half of Körösvidék started during the end of the 17th century thanks to continuous Romanian migration, natiral population growth and the Habsburgs "divide and conquer" strategy playing the Romanians against the often rebellious Hungarians. Regarding "Hungarian oppression" the only area that the arriving magyars caused any noticeable destruction was Dunántúl, they left every other area (especially the Tiszántúl for its valuable pastures that could feed the horses and Transylvania for its rich salt deposits) unharmed until the native population (in Tiszántúls regards the remnants of the Avars, in todays Slovakia the Slavs, in Transylvania the meager Bulgarians population) payed the taxes. The natives mostly blended into the Hungarian population between the 9th and the 13th century, with the exception of most Slavs. "Magyarization" began in 1868, but it wasn't anything more serious than what any other multiethnic country did at that time, whatever could be called "oppresive" about it was started in the 1880s and the entire process mostly took place in the center of the country, barely affecting the peripherial territories where the majority of the nationalities resided.

Pic related is the assumed ethnic map of the Kingdom of Hungary (and the Kingdom of Croatia as a personal union partner of it) in the 11th century based on placenames.


0684d0  No.15600

>>15557

What is your proof that what anonymous said is false, when he is otherwise a reliable source?

The slavic place names could easily be attributed to the Romanian language as we have a tradition of using slavic words in order to create names of locations, our language itself being 15% slavic at the moment, and probably more in the past.

The Balkans were romanized before the slavic invasion, remnants of this can be found all over the peninsula, but Dacia is the only one that kept the Latin language. Probably because of the relative freshness of the slavic invasions, there were still some Latin speaking regions in the south of the Danube.


499ece  No.15616

>>15600

>What is your proof that what anonymous said is false, when he is otherwise a reliable source?

Well he lived and worked between the end of the 12th century and the beginning of the 13th century, long after the settlement of the Hungarians and the creation of the Kingdom of Hungary happened. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymus_(chronicler)

He wasn't there to witness the events, so he evidently had to work from other (preferably older) sources, and here comes the problem. His work, Gesta Hungarorum - which was written somewhere between 1200-1230 - doesn't really align with the German, Italian or Kievan chronicles of the 9-10th century. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gesta_Hungarorum I doubt there's an English translation to it. I could give you the Hungarian one, but I doubt you'll be able to do much with it :D

>Dacia is the only one that kept the Latin language

Dubious, given that most of Roman Dacias Daco-Roman population and the army was evacuated by the Roman Empire in 275 and the following barbarian invasion either killed the Daco-Romans who remained in Roman Dacia or integrated into themselves.

>there were still some Latin speaking regions in the south of the Danube.

Proof?


0684d0  No.15636

>>15616

The first written Romanian sentence was recorded at the south of the Danube. I was agreeing with you that there were Romanians to the south the Danube river. The barbarians were free dacians and there is a theory that there was a continuous flow of Latin speaking populations over the Danube, that kept the language, because of outside pressures like the slavs.


0684d0  No.15637

The sentence was:"Torna, tornado fratre" or something like that and it was in present day Bulgaria.

About the Gesta Hungarorum, the historian's visions on it are mixed, but it is a relatively reliable source, despite some little chronological mistakes, and it is the best thing we have, having been based on even older chronicles that have been lost.


0684d0  No.15638

>>15637

>>15636

Take those as one continuous post


e03b5f  No.15641

>>15636

>The barbarians were free dacians

I refered to the Vandals, Gepids and Goths that invaded following the next few years of the Roman evacuation of Roman Dacia in 275. Not to mention that the territory was conquered by the Huns, the Avars and later by the Bulgarians in the following centuries.

>theory that there was a continuous flow of Latin speaking populations over the Danube

There are all kinds of theories regarding Transylvania, Roman Dacia and the Romanians, but the most likely seem to be that after the bulk of the Daco-Roman population was resettled in todays Northern Bulgaria, the remaining population either fled from the barbarian Germanic invasion, was killed by them or the following invaders or assimilated into the newcomer populations. So by the time the Hungarians arrived, there wasn't anything in there except a few outposts administered by the Bulgarians. The only time a Romance nation ever set foot on its soil again was when the Vlachs migrated there from south of the Danube.

>About the Gesta Hungarorum, the historian's visions on it are mixed, but it is a relatively reliable source

Outside of the Hunnic theory of the magyars origin that was disproved since then, that he took most of his stories from oral tradition instead of the chronicles and other written sources that were made during the era of the Hungarian conquest of the Carpathian Basin and Transylvania and the fact that it seems that he invented many of the names included inside the Gesta: the "Bulgarian Salan", the "Khazar Menumorut" (which itself supposedly means "Great Moravian"-→ Svatopluk?) or the "Vlach Gelou" (Gelou itself sounds awfully similar to the Hungarian name Gyula, which was also the title of one of the two princes of the pre-Christian Hungarians responsible for the leadership of the army and the governance of Transylvania), none of these names appear in other sources, despite plenty of them written about the Hungarians in Western and Southern Europe.

>it is the best thing we have

Not when it comes to 9-10th century Hungarian history. I'd say these are the best sources to it:

Tactica of Emperor by Byzantine Emperor Leo VI the Wise

De Administrando Imperio by Byzantine Emperor Constantine VII

Annales Fuldenses written inside the Abbey of Fulda

Antapodosis by Liutprand of Cremona


e03b5f  No.15642

>>15641

>Tactica of Emperor by Byzantine Emperor Leo VI the Wise

*Tactica of Emperor Leo VI the Wise by Emperor Leo VI the Wise

I hate typing on phone.


f84667  No.15645

Any map that doesn't give Constantinopla to Greece is complete shit.


153061  No.15652

>>15642

>I refered to the Vandals, Gepids and Goths that invaded following the next few years of the Roman evacuation of Roman Dacia in 275

The Russians had that same thing happen to them and they don't seem to be extinct

Do you have any proof that there were no Dacians on those lands?

>Outside of the Hunnic theory of the magyars origin that was disproved since then

This is a very easy mistake to make as both the Magyars and the Huns are very similar. This is even earlier than the Conquest of the Carpathians and of course is a little bit less accurate.

>Gesta: the "Bulgarian Salan", the "Khazar Menumorut" (which itself supposedly means "Great Moravian"-→ Svatopluk?) or the "Vlach Gelou"

Names usually don't make any sense, the thing could also be explained by the simple exchange of names between cultures, so I don't see this as being important.

>Not when it comes to 9-10th century Hungarian history.

I was talking about an in depth description of early Transylvania.

(I am not really the best to hold this debate with)


153061  No.15653

>>15645

Based and Byzantinepilled


54fb84  No.15696

>>15652

>The Russians had that same thing happen to them and they don't seem to be extinct

As far as I'm aware of, not the entirety of Russia was conquered by the Mongols as Novgorod retained its independence and Moscow experienced an autonomy wide enough that they eventually seceded from the nomad invaders. I have no knowledge about any Dacian or Daco-Roman city/state that became independent after 275, but if you have proofs or sources to the opposite, feel free to post.

>Do you have any proof that there were no Dacians on those lands?

There were Dacians on those lands. What I'm.trying to prove with everything that I posted so far is that by the time the Hungarians arrived, there were none of them in Transylvania, Körösvidék or Tiszántúl with the only possible counter proof being a chronicle written inside Hungary telling a story about an event that happened around 300 years before its inception. But here's something else I'm interested in: if there was a Dacian/Daco-Roman/Romanian settlement/city/state/population inside Transylvania/Körösvidék/Tiszántúl or in Wallachia or Moldavia in this regard by the time the Hungarians arrived, it's surely recorded by someone from another country/empire in that time. Are you in posession of such a source?

>(I am not really the best to hold this debate with)

For the time being, I'm content with that this debate of ours didn't evolve into fruitless namecalling, as it so often happens between people of radically different opinions on imageboards.


ba7e28  No.15737

>>15696

> the entirety of Russia was conquered by the Mongols as Novgorod retained its independence and Moscow experienced an autonomy wide enough that they eventually seceded from the nomad invaders

I mean yes, but even the regions that had been invaded by the Golden Horde remained populated.

>But here's something else I'm interested in: if there was a Dacian/Daco-Roman/Romanian settlement/city/state/population inside Transylvania/Körösvidék/Tiszántúl or in Wallachia or Moldavia in this regard by the time the Hungarians arrived, it's surely recorded by someone from another country/empire in that time. Are you in posession of such a source?

The same thing happened to different populations like the Finnish, Dacia was an area of little importance and there was no reason to write something about it. Latin speakers in the Balkans weren't a rare thing, and it was under the rule of Bizantium and the Bulgars for all of its existance, not having big revoults for autonomy, as Bulagria and Bizantium themselves had huge latin speaking populations outside of dacia.

>For the time being, I'm content with that this debate of ours didn't evolve into fruitless namecalling, as it so often happens between people of radically different opinions on imageboards.

I see no reason to be enraged about it as you seem to have accepted that Transylvania at this point is Romanian land, just because of the sheer demographics, so I don't see you as an enemy. I actually have no problems with Hungarians as long as they don't want to take Transylvania as it is, you can keep what you have, i mostly did that in the map to own the Hungs and to fulfill my crackpot irredentist desires, just like I did with France.


96b9e2  No.15745

File: 288102938e84489⋯.png (991.89 KB, 2046x908, 1023:454, 15472850550859.png)

>>15737

>you seem to have accepted that Transylvania at this point is Romanian land, just because of the sheer demographics

>he is not aware of the master plan

It's too late to stop it now. For decades commies and liberals tried to brainwash us against revisionism but it backfired on them badly. We will not lower our heads anymore. We will have our revenge.;)


ba7e28  No.15747

File: 255881c110a6742⋯.jpg (256.94 KB, 1900x1849, 1900:1849, LGBT_map_Artboard 2.ngsver….jpg)

File: 5ed9ab4a09ad0a1⋯.png (467.56 KB, 1895x918, 1895:918, Screenshot (53).png)

>>15745

Hungary has a nice government, but if you want to take away Transylvania, you will have to walk over my corpse. Maybe the government Romania is going to learn one day its mistakes, but the people in Romania are far more awaken and hateful towards faggots than the Hungarians from my knowledge, which is a good thing.

Hungarian, we are on the same side of this battle, our borders and disputes might be solved in the future, but until then, we have to fight the real enemy, the globohomo


ba7e28  No.15748

>>15745

And also, the article that you are showing, I am assuming you don't speak Romanian, talks about how the faggots have to be protected by the police from the attacks of the orthodox Romanians. Our government is shit, but the true Romanians, in general have a good heart.


8822b3  No.15750

File: ec949380380fd9f⋯.gif (1.84 MB, 202x360, 101:180, ec949380380fd9f6f49dd2d5ad….gif)

>>15747

>Many anti-LGBT laws from a colonial past remain in the developing world

Oh so that's the mental gymnastics leftists do when confronted with their two favorite pets (Niggers and Faggots) fighting. Interesting.


3867fd  No.15759

>>15747

>>15748

It was meant as a joke.


89651d  No.15765

>>15759

I know,realized it literally 2 secs after the post, but life is life


66dd73  No.15771

File: f09bd5511543dff⋯.jpg (341.06 KB, 1069x1719, 1069:1719, question.jpg)

>>1455

The south of Southamerica is quite European and fairly skinned, why should they mix with Mudpeople?


bd7590  No.15783

File: 51cd1d8ec6e2d4b⋯.png (898.97 KB, 5976x4374, 332:243, perfected europe.png)

The lightest green in southwest england is an area scheduled for celticisation because it has the lowest population density of any region of England. A third of Anglos there will be killed, a third will be deported back to England and a third will be Celticised. The wops in France and Italy have been quarantined from their white counterparts. Germany is prevented from starting any more wars of aggression in Europe. Russia gets the baltic to protect Europe against any more Atlanticist geopolitical projects. Good Europe.


a03b31  No.15784

>>15747

Based Russia


05bbc3  No.15785


ba7e28  No.15791

>>15783

Based and redpilled




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