My idea for a uniform for a modern day fascist movement would be: Black leather Oxford dress shoes, creased black slacks, a white dress shirt with a black tie, held down by a tie tack depicting the Party logo, and a black commando sweater (pic related) Please tell me what you think of this idea.
Uniform should be secondary to any actual policy proposals, at least imo
>not just a slick Hawaiian shirt
You don't want identifiers, it just makes you appear fringe and it triggers a conspiracy charge whenever you're involved with a crime. You want to be the norm, so dress normally.
I think we should all dress in pink,pink shirts,pink short shorts.
And of course half green/yellow helmets
literally nothing wrong with this
I don't particularly disagree, but…
My idea would be simple modern military boots, black/tan combat trousers and a tight tshirt or sweater like in op
at least this is what i wear
Aesthetic > substance
Without a proper aesthetic even the best ideas fall flat
>black dress shoes, black slacks, white dress shirt with a black tie, party logo tie tack, and a black sweater
I don't think that implies authoritarianism
They will fear the colour black for decades.
And, after the fear, comes respect.
Pretty much, except tightly fitted
I like the idea (in America) of black camo (obviously ridiculous from a camouflage standpoint), with black balaclava and black faux-military baseball cap. Not only does it look intimidating but it invokes a military vibe for the normies.
It's not a bad look, honestly. It's similar enough to >>475, but looks less "out of date" (to my own eyes) than the uniform that Mosley and the other BUF members in that picture are wearing. Not to mention that it would work as the uniform for any paramilitary / militia wing of the party, something I think is important to winning state-power and gets me called a fed a lot.
This looks pretty good too
if the pattern's unique it'd make it hard for non-fascists to disquise themselves as fascists
I don't know if this is just me but I think it'd be better if they were white
1) people like hats
2) used by "operators" in the military and special tactics in police… also it's very American
The IRA had little berets, I think this is more stylish. I'm not married to it, though.
>headwear on top of headwear
why not goggles?
You can either go IRA-mode, or tacticool. All black, though.
or maybe, both built into one?
There's something about the belts that doesn't seem quite right.
I would say black shirt ("camicie nere"), and for the lower body something that resembles what >>485 suggested… maybe simply olive cargo pants.
They seem too far up for my liking
Green shirt to symbolize revival.
Not these related images exactly, but I really have to consider jodhpurs as timeless fascist attire.
I'd prefer something like the SA but black instead of brown
Although the SA hats were cringy. As much as I hate Pinoshit he had good taste in head wear
This is a good idea. At least for the mercenary divisions
Hugo Boss pls, I know you're gay but you don't have to mention it in every thread.
What is the bottom half called? It looks like shorts with black tubesocks.
Id say anything by Hugo boss. Tactical fags might disagree but I think everybody needs two things. An onion an a flashlight , well maybe three a towel also- Adams was right.
I fucking forgot the picture!
The uniforms from SST were aesthetic as fuck.
Depends on the use, I much rather have different uniforms for different occasions. It would be retarded to always use « Siege-core » –Terror-wave– outside of a semi-organized rally, or summer clothes in winter.
With the right context you can go from casual to full LARP without it feeling out of place
What OP describes would be great for early rallies during Spring and Autumn –I am assuming you live in a template area–, later you can add a coat for the higher ups and start with less generic clothes.
Also, the best way of looking good is by being attractive, no amount of tench-coats and combat boots will make your skinnyfat-ass look decent. Fashion is an expression, not a mask.
My country is split in half by the tropic, the North experiences Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter, while the South and Center only have Rainy Season and Dry Season, plus our geography goes from snowy mountains and template forests, to deserts and jungles, My state has areas that can go over 40°C when the city next door experiences yearly snowfall, all while being classified as a « Mediterranean Climate ». Each area would need a different outfit and hat it being convertible between seasons.
For « ¡El Norte! » and other arid areas I would go for a straw-colored long-sleve shirt –Like the Mexican Gold-shirts–, and dark-brown chinos, belt and boots, or grey chinos with brown boots and belt. Add a tie and also a coat for winter
The Template Center can go full blackshirt with a raincoat, while the South can be a mix of Military-wave and Mountain-expedition
I need another Mexican to talk about this, preferably not from the North
« Surf The Khali Yuga » will be in next year
Tropical Fascism is the future
I'm from NEW Mexico. We're newer and cleaner.
THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF A UNIFORM IS A FIT BODY, OTHERWISE YOU LOOK LIKE A DUMPY SKINHEAD
I can not state how important this is. Unless you are clean cut and of good heath, you will do nothing but make whatever uniform you wear look bad. You need to be precise in movement, and you need to be disciplined.
This is the best answer. If you're a serious revolutionary fascist group you don't want to stick out. You want to blend in.
not to be THAT guy but I hate Turtlenecks, I prefer NatSoc Germany's uniforms any day. Mosley was a great guy but looked like a gay male model, no offense.
100% agree. Anyone starting a fascist group, party or paramilitary nowadays should allow honorary members to donate to the cause, but actual certified members have to pass a fitness baseline test or whatever before being allowed to wear the uniform and march in public.. or you end up with NSM
Don't wear combat boots and milgear you'll look like a immature larpfag it's ridiculous. Buy leather boots, dress shirts (brown, light blue), polo shirts, slim fit jeans and chinos and a trench/half trench style overcoat. And style your hair, Hitler Jugend type. You'll look professional, respectable and trustworthy. You think Hitler hired Hugo Boss for no reason?
Those haircuts are fucking gay dude. Just remember, if you're able to pull your own hair then the guy you're fighting is able to pull your hair. Don't have long hair. Long hair is for girls and faggots.
It looks like LARPing until you do something militant.
But then you become a Terrorist and your movement will have a whole host of new problems.
Yeah, it's pretty fucked.
Posting for those who still have not lost faith on coats. TBH you only need to be /fit/ and you can use them with no problem
And I like those boots, I would like to use strap-boots, they look a lot cleaner
What about short-hair (Hitlerjugend accepted too, you unstylish faggots are not going to stop me) + a hat of some kind. When you make the transition to a helmet it would help a lot to already use clothes that go with headwear
Also, there is Hitlerjugend to Hitlerjugend, not all cuts were the same, manny were very short yet stylish, and that is something very important as if you are serious about this you will not waste time fighting fags on the streets, instead you would get people on your side, and for that you need a clear and apealing image. Fighting is very romanticized, but realize that it is only a small push, not the entirety of the movement
I'd only argue against the Hitlerjugend because it is such an obvious indicator and doesn't match with some proposed styles, or settings.
I think it is simple enough to fit any situation. People went to war and enjoyed peace with it, at least the original one, which was shorter than the spray-hungry towers of hair you see today
I don't care how you style your hair as long as it's not too eccentric. Just remember, if you do ever get into a fight your hair will be used against you.
Spot the moor.
I used to think it was a good idea, but I eventually came to the conclusion that it was too LARPy, and we'd be better off just going with whatever doesn't make us look like idiots, gather under a common banner and then do what must be done.
I'll post what I'd come up with.
This was the shirt.
Pants were just Grey cargo pants designed for paramilitary/special police use.
Hat was a Patrol cap, boots were black combat boots (No steel toes. Marching in those sucks), leather driving gloves and a black leather Parade Belt.
So, that was what I had come up with until I concluded that it was little more than a minor mental exercise and just not practical. A good aesthetic is nice, but a good idea is better.
a well tailored fawn suit, navy oxford style shirt, and cordovan brogues. socks to match or contrast the shirt.
Hi Richard Spencer!
very hotline miami-ish
Do you guys think ithat is too late to go back the classic fascist style of shirts? or is too LARPY for today's standards?
I'm trying to make a classical blue francoist worker shirt but with Viking patterns to use here in Norway
I would prefer to simulate a natural evolution of those uniforms, this way you get something unique and fit for today while still having roots on something tangible
But on such simple outfits « Evolving » would just mean a more modern cut
I would have less symbols, keep a fasci on a single collar –Because nothing is more intimidating that good old orderly asymmetry–. Dish the cap and exchange it for something simpler and add some other color, a soft one used to give shape to everything and stop the black from becoming too overpowered, you won't lose too much intimidation because an uniformed formation will more than make up for it. Black is pretty neutral so it can be whatever color you would see fit, it could even be black with a different texture and shine to it. Those gray pants seem perfect for that even if I wold choose a different cut, and I would try to match the belt-buckle with any insignias you wear
What about exchanging the lines that you see on sleeves and shoulders to denote range with similar traditional viking patters. Like how this Japanese officer's uniform uses Japanese knot-patters over very western clothing.
And for coat and jackets, you can easily add such patters in the lining with shine or bright colors. Imaging officers marching during a formal even and seeing glimpses of those patters in the lining every time their coats move around, it would be a piece that could only be appreciated with movement
Hey that's pretty original.
I think that a lot comes down to attitude and where your battlebrothers come from. When I compare the falangist of old with the edgy shit that we have now is like there's a world of difference.Considering that most falangist came from the rural class and factory workers in comparison with the urbanized fucks that there are now. I always cringe myself to death when i see them try to mix falange with natsoc imagery, like we already have our own fascist tradition, heroes and martyrs don't try to mix it with another one.
Also I think the nordfront guys have it right.
Some wear shirts, others wear shields to protect their brothers. They look like decent people.
namefag…I think you got it all wrong
Nordfront looks good because they don't overdo it and they also don't look like 243lb mystery meat in WWII German LARP equipment like NSM.
Honestly the best look is to dress like a civilized gentlemen like these pics here and also my pic related
Also these pics are also pretty good example of how you should dress
Does anybody know where I can get a top like that? I looked around for a black fencing jacket but couldn't find anything
Can I buy that flag online?
How does this idea sound to you lads: Black, fitted polo shirt; a pair of navy pants like Dickies; a black, leather belt; and casual black, leather shoes? Seems like the look would harken back to the uniforms of times past, but be modern enough to not look larpy.
The problem with suits is that they are not very ergonomic, after a few hours you want to take that tie and coat away, they are form over function. It is then natural to want to make clothes similar in form but with function in mind, the result; early century military outfits. Thus you can see why so manny gravitate towards them, they are they balance of form and function.
Manny put function over form and get comfortable outfits, but that make them look like urban dwellers or redneck LARPers. these outfits give the undisciplined an edge in battle, but absolutely no presence.
To be honest, manny urban battles are a waste of time, you can do much more with propaganda and by attacking –Let's say– AntiFa's supply directly than by punching commies in the face
I think is is lack of education and lack of appreciation, wanting to « Improve » something that does not need it
Exchange the shoes for boots, they are heavier but offer more protection. Something like work boots should do fine.
I only know their medical products, aren't those too thin? or are you only referring to the type of cut?
I would add an accent color in the form of an insignia or armband, an anchor point, something to guide the viewer, else you risk seeing too monotonous and having people not knowing where to look at.
Dickies are a brand of "work" clothing. The pants are usually flat front, and straight legged. I mentioned them more as a guideline, but they are fairly tough for a pair of pants you can get for $20.
Is there audio of that quote?
Tailored suits are the answer.
Anything else is a LARP.
>Not dressing as a Union soldier from the 1800's
>Not spooking Commies by claiming that fictitious dictator "Berzelius Windrip" had some good ideas
>Not Hailing The Chief
"It Can't Happen Here" had an interesting concept as far as Fascist uniforms in the USA goes in my opinion. Too bad everything else in the book was hot garbage.
If you dress normally it will give the paranoid thought to normies that fascists can be anyone. >They dresss like you
>have jobs like you
>have music tastes like you
>like walks in the park like you
>recycles like you
Normies want caricatures and boogeymen, uniforms give exactly that.
That would imply that we would never leave the rouge stage, there will be a moment when we will be no need to hide. Plus, remember 1984 (Peace be upon it), you can have uniforms and secret agents at the same time, if anything giving them a boogyman would serve as a distraction for the real thing.
Yes, dressing up in complicated uniforms for your <50 people meetings is useless, but disregarding visual propaganda in every aspect of ourselves would be wasteful
My family got interested in fashion lately –I like design in general so I can get behind it as a pastime–. We would start just redistributing clothes from producers in southern Mexico, mostly traditional clothing. But our long-therm goal is to be producers ourselves, if possible I would try to inject my world-views into it as another platform for passive propaganda, that products must not be cheap, but of good quality, and that we must take care of them and get rid of our culture of disposability. But that would also give me the possibility to produce clothing
I would recommend every group to do the same, have a group of like-minded individuals to set up businesses to serve as means to get funds and in order to facilitate your group obtaining the infrastructure necessary for future activities. I am aware that manny are against free enterprise, but now it alloys us to work freely, you can nationalize them later if you want or kill the owners in the name of the glorious not-communist revolution.
But for the time being realize that clothes are very easy to modify, get yourself a group of tailors and make some small additions to your uniforms so they serve your needs, not too much at first since it would not reflect your movement, be smart and romanticize every stage of your development of your group, from rouge citizens to space fearers, use the language of clothing to your advantage.
*tsss* now, he had some good ideas *glup glup*
What states can you open carry a handgun?
Anyone have good things to say about any particular dealer of these uniforms on ebay?
I like Atomwaffen's uniform.
A truly fascist uniform must take on aspects of and represent the host culture and heritage for it to be effective. Additionally, whether you fellow Blackshirt choose a paramilitary uniform or civilian attire nothing will be more important than TAILORING. An individual with an average but healthy physique, a haircut, and a tailored off the rack collared shirt and slacks truly is imposing. If you adopt just that as your everyday wear I guarantee you will receive compliments from strangers and garner more generally positive attention.
If any chapter within the movement were to pursue a uniform of any sort, you must locally produce them. That means sourcing the material, developing the pattern, cutting the cloth, assembling and fitting the final product. Not necessarily by your own hand, but by trusted agents and partners. If you are investing time and money into purchasing third-party uniforms and/or are not active or prior military wearing your old service uniform and accoutrements then frankly I would stay away from any paramilitary appearance for the time being.
Again, recall culture, heritage, and tradition. It is any movement's aesthetic connection with the people. Certainly inspired design cues can be taken from other nations' uniforms, but the final product must be uniquely American, Canadian, German, Italian, Japanese etc.
The BUF's shirts were nothing more than revised fencing shirts. The early SA wore a combination of surplus imperial and civilian corduroy knickers and pants, lederhosen, and the lot.
Everyone's uniform should be personal fitness and hygiene first. Second, revise and tailor your every day wear. Blur the lines between your walking out and work wear.
Fascists serve their communities and must represent the best aspects of that community. Be a reflection of those best parts of your community wherever you are from.
Because it's just shorts with long socks you moron…
Although originally Cuban Guayaberas are very popular in Mexico. They are breathable and an every-day wear for manny.
I got myself one for doing bourgeois-shit like going to the Valley and other semi-formal events in Summer. Last time I tries to mix in some Arditi-core and it looked great, since I was not wearing a tie –since I am not THAT autistic– the flat ruffles of the center filled up the space subtly, it gave my outfit a lot of personality while not being too noisy.
I will be using this as part of the uniform. I could even use the colored lines in some designs and use them. This will be a bit expensive but it could even serve as an identifier, different patters meaning different things, great for places too hot and wet to use something over
Someone red-pill me about Bavarian shorts. What power do they hold? How can they be so confortable and yet stylish?
>How can they be so confortable and yet stylish?
That's the Alpine Races secret.
All of the Alpine transcendent energy flows into it when we make them…
Ich Sehen, Señor. And where can Ich (Ein fellow Alpineschen) get ein? A Pr*ssian stole meine to harvest its powers and Ich forgot where to get them. ¡Ay Caramba!
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I got in contact with an Oaxacan that sells traditional Mexican Southern Clothing produced in Yucatán. That is as traditional and local as they get, a lot is are made by hand and with local materials. My family was interested in re-selling those clothes here in the north but there is the lingering idea that we could also create our own line, if done I would take over it –Once my own business has stabilized– and use the infrastructure to produce uniforms for our businesses, which would facilitate me making uniforms for anything else, either tailor-making uniforms for other business like some companies in Japan or more personal projects. This would take years to do.
People from the South are very poor, in part is because of their mentality, but I have nothing against employing and teaching them, then I would have someone take over once they have learnt leadership, they are very independent but act more like a mob, they need organization.
>he told them our secret
I will get you mole.
Roll and find out your fascist role
>green shirt to symbolize revival.
>uses black and white picture
When you don't know what Scholle means you can't be a real Alpine!