I'm curious as to what kind of results /fascist/ will get. Especially based on the flags people post with. I don't know how accurate this thing is since I wouldn't necessarily consider myself a theocrat even though I'm sympathetic to the ideas of distributism.
I'm quite a normie and the test prove it. I'm going to take the test again to find out what a theoretical fascist will get.
Here you go. Answered it all according to fascism textbook. The result doesn't look right though
I wouldn't consider myself a theocrat i believe in the separation of church and statre, I don't have any problems with distributism though. This test has an obvious bias, you can tell by the questions.
Results on this thing are retarded in a lot of ways. The only portion of the test that matters a lot is are the scales themselves. That's mostly what I'm interested in seeing from the users of the board.
There's one stupid ass question, I don't remember how it goes but it's something like "being logical is more important than maintaining tradition".
Yeah I know exactly what question you're talking about, it's a pretty damn stupid question. I don't take these type of test seriously but they're still fun to take.
Here's my results from a few months ago
shit forgot to add the results
So most fascist are traditional? Didn't expect that
The quiz are questionable. I just clicked 'neutral' for all questions and this is what I get. The 8values should be vastly more complicated than this. And there should be no 'neutral' option for this kind of quizzes.
Some of the questions were a bit odd but here ya go
Traditionalist today doesn't mean the same thing as traditionalist in the 20s and 30s. Back then traditionalists and conservatives were staunch monarchists so at the time Fascism was seen as something entirely new and to a large degree anti-traditional.
Now days traditionalism just means you're not in favor of faggotry and decadence.
I am a fascist….and I was 100% serious with the test
I literally always get theocratic distributism in that test no matter what .
if your economics aren't at least 75% socialist, you're not a fascist tbh
Those other metrics are bad tho.
Conservative Revolutionary Socialist, but not Fascist.
This test is pretty inaccurate tbh
The metrics are really the only thing about it that are important.
This one is about 10 times better.
Can you please stay on this board? People on left(y)pol are getting kinda tired of your shitposts.
I kind of want to see these "shitposts" now. The fact that he annoys you sounds pretty funny.
these are usually the results i get.
Not from here, probably not coming back. Neat test, though, even if the questions are heavily skewed to support leftism.
So many of these questions are incredibly vague. I'm not sure what "Democracy is more than a decision-making process" is even supposed to mean.
I did this one too.
It's a stupid question, I usually just put "strongly disagree" because I assume that's a pro democracy statement. Kind of like some gay liberal shit saying "Democracy is a high ideal and MORE than a decision making process!".
>Can you please stay on this board? People on left(y)pol are getting kinda tired of your shitposts.
Yeah I don't give a fuck. There's my shitposts, then there's this, an OBJECTIVELY Shit Post. Your whining doesn't work on my turf, faggot.
And those aren't shitposts, those are my actual opinions and your tranny BO can go fuck himself, literally.
Oh it's just me, y'know, having the wrong kind of social views when the board (supposedly) rejects identity politics to begin with. Ironic.
anyways, my results
on politicaltest and politiscales, respectively, most recent results.
sorry for the quad posting but its funny how they decided to go out of there way to come here and bitch at me. notice how they used "we", compared that to liberal "me, i". but with fascist its "us"
It's not as much shitposts as it is dumb platitudes and brainlet statements, either wrong, or of things that are pretty obvious and don't need pointing out
yeah I just think that's a personal opinion of yours. go whine some where else
American Exceptionalism / Nazi Ubermensche Merger when
too much market activity hurts the poor.
If you aren't at least 20% socialist, you need to go back to /liberty/.
That seems to be a little more than 20% kek
Here are some 5 month old tests.
Falangism infused with Ecology is best ideology.
I'll repost my results from months ago.
Postin mine. While ago, probably hasn't shifted much though.
I got the same except more Socialist and more Nationalist
I also don't understand how I didn't get fatherland on politiscales
Feels good to be a male chauvanist pig.
Well, I might need your help to figure this one out anons. I took both the 8values and politiscales test and while they're both pretty consistent with eachother (apart from the economics axis, that has a 30% gap since i don't feel i have enough knowledge to effectively judge my position entirely), I don't know what to call myself. I mean, fascist has a pretty negative connotation so it would be weird just calling myself a fascist during a political discussion. Can you guys steer me towards any particular ideology or set of ideologies that reflect my values so I can do some in-depth research?
Basically just a classic Fascist
Way too much market there.
Basically my politiscales puts me as some sort of Right wing Anarcho-Syndicalist with a Birthright leadership.
It's the form of a government, what the hell does it even mean, this "definition" is just autistic in my opinion
distributism is communism but for trads
I think I only ended with this label because I support direct-democracy and find the current 'traditions' of our neoliberal globalist order to be crap.
Really, we do need to wipe away the 'traditions' of muh family values (which is just an excuse for womyn to justify their existence in a society that has modern appliances) and Christfag morality in order to truly revitalize our society.
And, true direct-democracy is the only way that the nation, as the white majority, can wipe away the minorities. Representative 'democracy' belongs in the trash bin though. The reason why our 'democracies' implement the neoliberal globalist agenda is because minorities have too much power. And, that is because they aren't really democracies. (Elections were considered aristocratic before the Enlightenment era.)
Compare the individualist, liberal ballot to the republican citizen's assembly, where policy is determined not by secret ballots made in isolation but rather in the energetic and dynamic debate of a citzen's hall. It is truly the nation being represented in its purest form.
Suffrage should also be more restrained as to not cheapen the role of citizenship. Being a citizen should be considered being part of the government, not being a subject or servant of it. Thus, giving citizenship to those who are not fit to govern is tantamount to abolishing it. This is why direct democracies historically were stingy with suffrage.
I really wish they used Legionarism instead of "theocratic distributism", or failing that, clerical fascism.
Here's a test to determine your philosophical leanings:
And my results:
I think it’s stupid that just because you believe in workers rights and that social conditions should be improved so people will have more money to support themselves you’re instantly labeled a commie. Like I’ve said many times that I fully support rich people existing and that what you earn shouldn’t be taxed. Other than that everything is correct besides the progress part because literally every fascist believes in progress.
Not really a great supporter of Fascism, but I can't really see an Autocratic Party of some sort, so I'd rather have Fascism anyway…
Also, pic related.
I should clarify that I'm a NatSoc.
I don't know where it's getting this rehabilitive justice crap from, definitely not from my answers
lets see how much I've changed
I like it.
gonna do politicscales again
>doesn't understand what the word means. And bitch about it
I've been moving further away from capitalism as I realize parasitic exploitation and wealth concentration through usury is the end result.
My 21 year old self would hate me now. My 21 year old self knew nothing about Jews.
Not a fascist due to low traditionalism, but not a populist due to my anti-democratic opinions and overall "anti-people" opinions. They do not know what is best for them. People are a mob and must be read and studied rather than listened like in direct democracy.
This test isn't perfect, but it's a good start. It must be noted that my views are largely not final.
Other tests. Might not be radical enough.
All my results. Thoughts on what ideology would fits more?
Since just about all political tests are biased or just stupid, why don't the more learned members of us, try working on an accurate one. I assume most anons here have danced around the political spectrum quite a bit and obviously have far more understanding of all sides of the spectrum than normies.
Tried and true National Socialist.
the test is based in Germany. wtf do you expect?
On politiscales I am this:
My leaning is: Philosophy?
What does that even mean?
Is that like a super high midichlorian count? Am I a chosen one?
Oh that's just the title of the test…sorry…
Jim Jones with Blackshirt characteristics?
I have mixed feelings about monarchy, and idk if I would consider myself a Strasserite. I haven’t read much into Strasserism.
If you want to learn more about Strasser's work, definitely check out his one work in the English Language Germany Tomorrow along with my old thread here where I attempted to translate some of Strasser's lesser known German works into English >>>/fascist/185 .
Interestingly enough what >>11621 said here isn't as much of a contradiction as one may at first think. Strasser proposes a type of elective monarchy for a post-war Germany in his work Germany Tomorrow He suggests that this form of monarchy would remove many of the flaws of hereditary monarchy such as violating the equality of all citizens in the sense of equality of opportunity and there being no guarantee that succession from father to son would ensure the best possible leadership. In this system the monarch would be elected in some way and would then rule for life or until they are incapable of ruling.
Thanks, I’ll check that thread out. I’ve been getting into Strasserism a bit if I’m being honest, but mainly because of Otto’s views on technology and de-urbanization. I also like the idea of Guild Socialism, it’s not that different from National Syndicalism, and I like the concept of de-proletariatization. The only thing I’ve read on Strasser is from this article https://patsoc1.wordpress.com/2019/02/13/introduction-to-strasserism/
I wouldn’t be opposed to electoral monarchy, the problem is I don’t think a monarchy would have much support in America.
That seems like a good introductory text on the basics. The PDF I added to my post is a short excerpt from the book on the far right of the attached pic that I translated a while back.
>I wouldn’t be opposed to electoral monarchy, the problem is I don’t think a monarchy would have much support in America.
I'm an American too and have come to the same conclusion. The way around this, at least in my view, is to not call it an electoral monarchy but instead advocate for the abrogation of the 22nd amendment as "contrary to true democracy". In America it would have to be some sort of "president-for-life" system without all of the conventional symbols of monarchy, which is fine in my book.
I pretty much agree with everything in the pdf you poster, and I’ll check out the book full book in the translation thread.
>In America it would have to be some sort of "president-for-life" system without all of the conventional symbols of monarchy, which is fine in my book.
I could see that working, I wouldn’t be opposed to it.
I just lurk. I haven't read anything yet and still like anarchist philosophy more than third-position and/or fascist thought, but I have an open mind.
*anything meaning Hitler, Strasser, Codreanu, Evola, etc.
These are the books I read
Mein Kampf (ford tr)
White Power (by rockwell)
Hunter (by mcdonald)
The Camp of the Saints
This together with browsing /pol/ quite a bit, and watching youtube.
I see a lot of yt stuff and have started watching Murdoch Murdoch. The idea of ecofascism is a little more appealing to me but that bafoon Tarrant has just now put it in a bad spotlight.
Also where can I read these? I've only found Mein Kampf and GLR so far. Although idk how I feel about the whole justifying killing women and children for lebensraum.
I would completely disregard Tarrant calling himself an eco fascist, the dude said that his political beliefs mostly resembled China. If you want to get into the whole “eco fascist” stuff read Industrial Society and it’s Future by Ted Kaczynski, Can Life Prevail by Pentti Linkola, and Dark Age America by John Michael Greer. None of those people resemble fascism at all besides Linkola.
Don’t focus on people like Hitler or GLR at the moment, i’d recommend start by reading Reflections on Violence by Georges Sorel then read the Doctrine of Fascism by Mussolini.
Thanks for the genuine suggestions. I was planning on picking up Kaczynski's complete works and maybe The Kingdom of God is Within You by Tolstoy. I've heard of Sorel, but was thinking of starting with Spengler or Evola. Or someone like Strasser. But Evola interested me because of the whole tradition concept which I like.
Evola is what I started with when I first got into the third position. Don’t start with Revolt Against the Modern World though, if you want to get into traditionalism and Evola start with Crisis of the Modern World by Rene Guenon, or A Handbook for the Right Wing Youth by Evola. The latter is a collection of essays by Evola and a good introduction to Evola.
I posted an introduction to Strasserism in this post if you’d like to check it out >>11687
>the dude said that his political beliefs mostly resembled China
Well he also said he got his ethnonationalism from Spyro the Dragon 3. He said Candace Owens was too radical for him. He was obvs memeing.
Cool, I'll check it out. cheers
I know, that’s why I don’t take himself claiming to be an eco fascist seriously.
wrong flag and didn't mean to post last one
Marxism, Mercantilism, and orthodox Fascism on the bottom.
It's hard to decide whether or not to protect people who do things against the states, because the current status quo must be opposed at all costs, but my ideal state wouldn't have any problems for people to oppose them over anyways. Protect whistleblowers if they benefit the people of an oppressive nation, but what if they oppose an ideal nation free of oppression? At that point, it is necessary to consider them both enemies of the people and enemies of the state. This test assumes you want to protect whistleblowers in any circumstance, even though circumstances change here, especially in the case of a popular state that serves its people. Same thing with the questions regarding the EU and UN. Sure, unions of multiple states could be great, but only if they weren't biased and only served the good of the people of the world. Internationalism must only be undertaken if it legitimately means to serve the interests of the people of the world, otherwise it would be wrong for a nation to support them, especially if the nation does not benefit from such international initiatives. Internationalism is not something to support if that internationalism negatively effects you, same with supporting whistleblowers of a country that does not benefit you. Internationalism could be great, same with a nation, but in the current status quo must be opposed. 9axes does not consider an ideal world.
Is it true that generation zyklon is just a meme and most of the "conservative" zoomers are just economic right and social left?
Here in America I think it's a complete meme. I fall somewhere right around the dividing line of gen Z and millennials (not even sure which I am honestly) and the vast, vast majority of people I interact with fall into the traditional false blue/red dichotomy. I'd hazard to guess that they are as liberal as ever. Once again conservatives fail to conserve a damn thing and have lost ground to liberal thought: tolerating or accepting homosexuals, trannies, gender-equality, etc. On the other hand it's undeniable that white-consciousness is at an all time high here since ~2015 or so. I'm not totally blackpilled, I think one of the biggest problems is that people just simply aren't aware of the existence of true alternatives. They think conservative and liberal are the only political options, and that conservative social positions are incompatible with stuff like universal healthcare, nationalized education, etc. It should be the goal for third-positionists to put themselves out there and show people the alternatives. I've had some success in stimulating interest in some of my IRL friends in economic left and social right, but only people who were already conservatives in the first place.
Oregon Trail Gen here. One of the first in my school to embrace right leaning social views. Ofc I got ostracized for it but it paid off.
It's not a meme. I'm can say with confidence I am an example of that.
- A Zoomerfag
Most are apolitical, a lot of the gen z females seem to be more liberal or left leaning though. It’s a meme for the most part, I only know a few right leaning zoomers and they’re either conservative or libertarian.
Lots of zoomers here am I fucking ancient or something?
I honestly like this test more. Though, some questions rely on you being more moderate on the scales.
Like "suffrage based on military service" relies on you believing in a democratic system of government in the first place. (Which I do, but still.) It also should be cancelled out if you agree with mandatory conscription as well. Basically, it'll just be universal suffrage anyways. Also, restrictive suffrage is more associated with direct citizen participation in government. Compare Athens to modern America. Athens had a restrictive suffrage, but the citizens were truly citizens. They truly had complete power in their government.
Imageboards seem to mostly attract to people in their late teens and early twenties
Well particularly in poor, white populations, there's actually a mild amount of radicalization among them. I was actually able to get many of my friends - who obviously are white - on the moderate to far right. I'm a leaf, so generally the target of our hatred is Trudeau. However, mixed race to minority Zoomers and richer Zoomers usually become more Liberal.
I probably don’t know that many redpilled zoomers because I live in the suburbs, but I can see poorer zoomers being more right leaning since they have to deal with the effects of neoliberalism and multiculturalism more than upper middle class gen z.
I live in Canada's borderline-Detroit, so there's a mild amount of baste zoomers.
That probably explains it, I live in the Southwest US so I assume that’s why everyone in my age range is blue pulled.
I already noticed that but the internet is the only place I can truly be myself without fear of being ostracized
Most Xennials here (my own generation) are bluepilled af. I think the fact how high school made me so alienated from my peers is what contributed to my radicalization. That and my dating pool is shrinking.