cd76c3 No.47483
He /fem/,I recently realized I'm a trans woman, and a lot of my friends constantly tell me it isn't a vagina, uterus, period, or breasts that make a woman a woman.
What do they mean? What does it mean to be a woman?
18fec0 No.47487
>>47483If I look at you, and I see a woman, it's a woman, in the same way that if I look at someone's skin color, and it's black, it's black.
However, keep in mind, that if you date a male, to let him know you have a penis, because if he spends a bunch of money on you to find out you aren't bangable, that would be a dick move on your part.
cd76c3 No.47488
>>47485I always fuckin say that and they disagree. i dunno
>>47487Totally, that's the shittiest fucking move. so you judge someone on if they're passable or not?
18fec0 No.47489
18fec0 No.47493
>>47491I'm not sure what you're trying to say, or what that picture means.
cd76c3 No.47494
>>47489i dont fuckin know, that's why i asked
fc7625 No.47496
>>47493It see a cellphone, it looks like a cell phone-does it work like a cellphone?
No. Then why call it a cellphone?
cd76c3 No.47497
>>47496oh my fucking god im fucking dying
18fec0 No.47500
>>47494Identity needs to be objective, so it's meaningful. You can't just go by feelings because you can't tell someone's feelings by just looking at them. It needs to be provable too. I can look at my hair and see that it's brown, I can see my skin and see that it's white. People can look at me and see that I'm male, because I'm male. So tell me, in what way is it a "shitty move"? What other option is there?
>>47496A broken phone is a still a phone, in the same way that a dead person is still a person.
cd76c3 No.47502
>>47500I meant that it's a shit move to spring a dick on someone that wasn't expecting it
>missing the iPhone joke 85e410 No.47503
You can call yourself a woman all you want but you're a trans woman not a real woman. If you are male, you are not a woman. There doesn't have to be anything particularly "wrong" with being a trans woman but you're different. That's fine, though.
cd76c3 No.47504
>>47503Funny how you're the second fucking person I've met to believe that (counting myself)
fc7625 No.47505
>>47500>A broken phone is a still a phone, in the same way that a dead person is still a person.A dead person is a body. It's a human body, but they're not a person any longer.
A broken phone? I would say how I really feel, but I'm sure it would offend Swami.
So instead, I will say that something that is not functionally what it is saying it is should not be considered what it is posing as.
Here's a hypothetical scenario I would like to propose.
Say someone dies and is somehow cloned in the future. They retain their memories, their experiences, all of that stuff in their previous life.
They look and act exactly as they did.
Are they the same person?
cd76c3 No.47506
>>47505fuck no. same consciousness though
fc7625 No.47508
>>47506It's not the same consciousness. It is a new person.
You cannot say they're not the same person but say they're the same person.
The consciousness is who we are.
Let's say we made two of these same people. Would they always make the same decisions? No, because they would functionally be biological twins.
Their consciousness is not the same.
cd76c3 No.47510
>>47508interesting, never thought of it that way.
fc7625 No.47512
>>47510I've thought deeply on the subject…
The justification for making artificial life is too high a cost to ever condone making it if you ask me.
If you could copy a person's personality and make a robot that act, feels, talks, walks, etc the same as that person…is it a person?
No, it's a robot-but you would then have to afford it the same rights and favors as a real person.
It's unethical and immoral to make artificial life (non-biological, and even to some extent biological).
The artificial life will have to find it's place in the universe, be tended to like a person when it is not.
What is it's reason for existence? To serve the persons interests who made it.
This is what differentiates the creation of life (sexual reproduction) and creation of artificial life.
Would you condone someone who was only getting pregnant to give birth to someone whom they could control the entire life of? That the intention of having the child was not so you could dote on the child but so the child to meet your desires?
This is not right, this is not the reason someone should have a child-or make life.
Artificial life would only ever serve the purpose of those who make it.
It would be confined and restricted.
Imagine creating something akin to a human being that was a robot-yet you made it a sex slave, to have no will of it's own-but it acts like a human.
How disgusting is that?
It has no real will, it is a disgusting perversion of a person.
377c16 No.47516
A womb makes a woman a woman.
Woman = womb + man.
85e410 No.47526
>>47504That doesn't have to be a bad thing though. If you're transgender, you're transgender. It's who you are. Do what you want to do with your body. I used to be incredibly involved in trans groups and used to identify as a man actually. For me it was a phase. I had a lot of mental health problems after leaving an abusive relationship which made me question every aspect of my identity. I thought I was weak because I let him do what he did to me and I didn't want to be associated with weakness. (To me, woman = weak) I never got on hormones but I used a binder cut my hair changed my name made an appt to get hormones until I started having doubts. I passed as a woman though and I got upset at every guy who didn't see me as a guy just like them. It was terrible for my mental health because I could never be just like them no matter what I did. Once I started accepting that I was trans and realizing that I would never be just like male XY men, it got easier. You can't change who you are. If you're a trans woman, be a trans woman. But deluding yourself into thinking you are no different than XX cisgender women will hurt you.
85e410 No.47528
>>47504I meant to add that after my involvement with trans groups, you will find that I am not the only one who thinks like this. There are many people like me who think these things.
c08eb4 No.47529
Having two x chromosomes makes a woman. You arent a woman you have a mental illness.
5075f2 No.47575
>>47485
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You can "feel" like a woman all you want but if you have XY you're a man.
I think the real problem with things like these is the stigma… Take gays for example, people spend so much time arguing about if it's biology or choice they don't see that the real issue of "is it wrong?" Men that get a sex change are still men but who gives a fuck? If they want to dress like a female and mutilate their genitals because it makes them feel better about themselves than go for it.
Just please stop trying to fuck with the language.
tl;dr let them dress up and take the dick but either stop calling them women or invent a single fucking word and stick to it.
6b93af No.47579
A woman is evoked, like music from a violin. It's an emergent entity, not a static object. Smooth skin, pudenda … there's more than that to a woman.
3762f4 No.47582
>>47483You will never be a woman. You can be a transwoman, though. To the public, you'll be a woman. To the government, you'll be a woman. But don't dare pull a Brianna Wu or I'll fucking rip off your dick and feed it to you.
703252 No.47592
>>47483It means having reproductive organs that produce the larger, non-motile of two gametes.
691c7d No.47598
>>47592actually, they've stopped producing said gamete by the time one is considered "a woman." Those gametes are just stored until they refuse to come out during menopause and then they're just stuck up the cooch, rotting forever.
04c905 No.47602
sage
f7286f No.47609
Actually having that thing called a uterus? XX chromosomes? Ovaries? Things typical of female anatomy meaning that "Mtf"'s are nothing more than males mutilating themselves with surgery?
Yeah that.
cd76c3 No.47663
>>47516so what about people who are biologically women but have had to have their womb removed? are they not women?
cd76c3 No.47664
>>47529the DSMV disagrees with you
d2ef9d No.47679
Lel you're not a woman, sorry tranny.
fc7625 No.47682
>>47664The DSMV?
You mean the thing that changes based on how the people are feeling that are in charge of it?
Basically, the DSMV has been pushed into accepting certain mental illness due to the tolerance and acceptance crowd. The same people who say language changes so we should forcibly redefine words based on how we see fit-rather than letting nature run its course and let society decide what they mean.
No, I can't say I can trust the DSMV anymore.
50df69 No.47688
You're not technically a woman, but who cares?
You can still live as a woman even if it only is makebelieve. Doesn't mean you're any less of a woman in the lived sense even if you're not a woman in the innate sense.
50485e No.47738
>>47663they were born with one, nothing changes that. Unless you've got a time machine
OP is a dude who has brain problems
345ac2 No.47800
>>47682This, the dsm v condensed aspergers and all forms of autism to one lump diagnosis of autism.
132c34 No.47852
>>47664dsm3 was the last sensible standard, before the relativists really infected it
> oh you have delusions regarding your self concept?> oh you have paraphilias regarding mutilation?> oh you have comorbid depression AND sz?> i suppose we could address your disordered thinking through the usual means> lol jk, lets chop your dick off and bore it back into youunconditional positive regard indeed
>>47800asd is actually one of the few good things in dsmv, but rolling aspergers in was a bad decision
e1bae3 No.47863
fc4b85 No.47869
>>47488>so you judge someone on if they're passable or not?pretty much. There are also some natural women who I would call a man.
f38fe6 No.47938
Chromosomes aren't what make a woman a woman, because trannies are women.
Having a vagina isn't what makes a woman a woman, because untransitioned trannies are women.
Having tits isn't what makes a woman a woman, because fat guys have tits too
Feeling a woman is what makes a woman? But then someone could claim to feel a woman not feeling a woman, and you'd have no way to prove it.
So, claiming to be a woman makes you a woman.
There. No distinction other than claims. No categorization of people, since that is oppressive. Only claims, only feels.
90bf70 No.47940
There are quite a lot of differences due to human sexual dimorphism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_dimorphism#HumansIn ideal world, these characteristics set the sexes apart and also influence their roles in life. The matter is complicated by genetic and developmental issues, which are recognized medical concerns and can generate a good variation of complicated, ambiguous individuals and put parents in the position of choosing whether they'll raise their child as a man or as a woman.
Current social movements are turning it into an even bigger clusterfuck and I'm still not sure if it can be taken seriously. I haven't had enough exposure nor formed any opinion about things like trans people who suddenly decided they wanted to change their sex just like that.
90bf70 No.47956
>>47800>>47852From what little I've read, DSM V uses legal terms to determine whether something is a paraphilia or a disorder.
http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/Paraphilic%20Disorders%20Fact%20Sheet.pdfSo basically, you can have whatever fetish you want, unless it causes you distress, that's a disorder. Okay, I can see why. But it's also a disorder if it causes
other people damage or violates their consent. Oh and if it's pedophilia then it's automatically a disorder, no "atypical sexual interest" to you.
It carries the smell of politics.
90bf70 No.47957
>>47529That's actually an extremely simplistic opinion that is easily defeated.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XX_male_syndrome 703252 No.47960
Female = larger, non-motile gametes
Male = smaller, motile gametes
You can't bring chromosomes into the picture because gene regulation is a lot more complicated than that. The Y chromosome in fact only plays a very small role in up-regulating more important genes, most of which are actually found on the X chromosome; while in most of a woman's cells one of the X chromosomes is actually rendered inert and non-functional.
c8eb17 No.47983
Mentally, the way they are raised, that's the true essence of their womanhood.
>Men: shut the fuck up, nobody cares
>Women: let it all ou, everybody is here for you.
c8eb17 No.47986
Holy shit, haha, my brain skipped you trans crap.
Go to therapy before you cut your dick and kill yourself.
04c905 No.47996
ayyy
4a5fe0 No.48041
>>47483I'm not getting banned over this shit agai-… oh fuck it.
You're not a woman, you will never be a woman, and you need to consider either medication or suicide.
f266e3 No.48052
>>47483Why did it become a thing in society to tell people who don't associate with society's defined gender roles that they're actually a ~woman~ or a ~man~. You delude people into believing this nonsense and they're never going to keep comfortable being who they are; as in the gender they are born as and will never be able to change other than to play pretend.
cfc25f No.48115
>>47663We call those people "stupid".
5b2981 No.48154
>>47957That's an "exceptions prove the rule" situation, considering it says right in your linked page that they're invariably sterile.
cd76c3 No.48268
>>48041Yeah, it tends to end with me wanting to kill myself.
>>48115You understand there are medical reasons for womb removal, right?
c8eb17 No.48517
>>48268Can you remove chromosomes or alter muscular structure? No you can't.
See, retards don't get that even if you remove the parts that "make you a woman/man" you keep being what you are, your muscles, bones,bowels, brain, dna,chromosomes and so on, have grown and developed according to what you are.
It's stupid as fuck to think you can cheat biology by removing or adding parts to your body.
cf5b99 No.48549
Language is the problem. We categorize things into discrete, that is countable, states. But in nature, only continuous states exist. Since we cannot name continuous states, because there is infinite possibilities, we have to use language to simplify natural occurances into a finite number of states. At its extremest, we would look at a grayscale and call it 'white' and 'black' - when in all actuality, there's many more states in-between.
That is why we struggle with non-binary gender states.
Look, if something in your life feels shit, then it's up to you to make it less shit. Every living being strifes to escape from suffering. Do what you must do be happy. Don't define yourself through others' eyes, even if it's hard at first. In 80 years, they're all dead. You have such a short lifespan, don't spend it suffering. Spend it being happy - and for now, do what you must to achieve a base state of happiness.
Good luck.
e2dd1c No.48561
>>48154>"The exception that proves the rule" is used when an exception to a generally accepted truth is discovered. This is an old fashioned use of the word 'prove', which means 'to test'. It does not mean it proves a rule is true, but that it tests the rule baffee No.48562
>>48549>That is why we struggle with non-binary gender states.We don't struggle with it, it simply doesn't exist. There's no such thing as a gender continuum.
58ae04 No.48564
>>48562b-but… I don't fit into a box, gender is a spectrum, like a special rainbow! I just want to fit in while standing out!
baffee No.48565
>>48564>I don't fit into a box>I'm a transpanfluidgenderqueer my entire tumblr, indeed my entire life is centered around this factEverytime, and I thought post-modernists had a great sense of irony.
a85ec9 No.48568
>>47529This, your brain doesn't work properly OP
0ce9c4 No.48576
It's a state of mind
145963 No.49001
>>48562>We don't struggle with it, it simply doesn't exist. There's no such thing as a gender continuum.Irrelevant. You struggle even with binary gender, regardless if "gender continuum" exists. Binaries are the thing that
certainly don't exist, but you struggle to grasp that.
c5c2a3 No.49063
You're not a woman. You're an insane deranged man.
c5c2a3 No.49068
>>47938Why is it okay to indulge a tranny's fantasy and self delusion but not any other lunatic's. I think and feel I'm a God. Bow down and worship me, you fucking normalfags. But know, any sane person would say fuck you, you're mortal like the rest of us, you lunatic.
>being a god doesn't require immortality>doesn't require divine powers >doesn't require an essence beyond human comprehension>only requires muh feels it's what's in your heartSee how fucking utterly looney that is? You trannies are fucking mentally ill. Every single one of you.
4b44c4 No.49166
are most of you TERFs or what
020bbb No.50729
5cd0a7 No.50731
Seek psychological help. Do not self-diagnose. DO NOT SELF-DIAGNOSE. We're TRAINED to try and figure out if you're actually experiencing GID or whether or not you're actually experiencing a disassociation as a result of a failure to identify with certain patriarchal structures or trying to execute a form of fantastic escapism/psychological reinvention.
t. psychologist.
7bbc2d No.50733
>>47483>a lot of my friends constantly tell me it isn't a vagina, uterus, period, or breasts that make a woman a woman.The real question is how did you manage to find those illiterate friends.
e83e80 No.50800
>>50731> patriarchal structuresSuddenly I don't feel like taking you seriously anyomre
e83e80 No.50801
>>48549>But in nature, only continuous states exist.Tell us all about the gender continuums of the various species that can be found in our planet Mr. Biologist.
8f1a9e No.50887
>>47956What if you're not a pedophile but
are into pedophiles, and have autopedophilia? e83e80 No.50960
>>50887I don't see any problem.
Really, the only problem that arises is whether you can consent to stuff. That's a legal problem. It's got nothing to do with a "disorder".
At least in my opinion.
c8eb17 No.50976
>>50729still, it doesn't invalidates the argument.
Retarded shit invented by delluded faggots will always be fucking ilogical.
020bbb No.50977
>>50976But it does invalidate what you say. Hormones change your brain, bones, bowels, muscles, and they also change the way your genes are expressed (to the female expressions, which is what causes the aforementioned physical changes).
All chromosomes do is signal for hormones at birth. See SRY gene
020bbb No.50980
>>50977In the case of MtF*
c8eb17 No.51024
>>50977Oh yeah, and it also modifies your insides on a molecular level, triggering stemm cells to give you an uterus and a real functioning vagina!
Come on man, stop fooling yourself.
e83e80 No.51026
>>50976Those people are indeed dumb. The genes themselves are indeed a factor, but there are a huge number of factors that control
their expression.
Basically, people who don't know the first thing about anything shouldn't have opinions
60c81a No.51063
>>51026As much as they want to express a vagina, MtFs still fail at it.
They can ingest hormones to feel like a woman all they want, but they'll never be one. I could say they turn into sterile women at best, but that's still a stretch; A knowledgeable man will never partner up with a transexual unless he's aware and has a fetish for it, as much as he respects them for their identity. They're not women, they're messed up males with lack of self-respect. They can mutilate their genitals all their want and it won't matter.
Overall it's an incomplete and an abomination of a procedure fueled by thoughts of self-hatred supported by social constructs that pick what people should enjoy and do from their birth. Since they can't enjoy things being who they are, they go through this process of self-destruction which leads nowhere but into further separation from reality and more problems. Someone with a perfectly functioning brain would not go through such torment, at worst they would fantasize about how things would be like instead of hurting themselves to near irreversible states, much like any person who obsesses over the superficial for not loving themselves.
You could try to say they could still be caring parents but I doubt it. They'd probably encourage their behavior of sinking their self-esteem to negative levels with their self-doubt to their children to the point of having them replicate their ways. They're messed up people in every way and only belong in fetishistic comedy.
5fb36b No.51068
by nature we are females, we are born this way, blah blah blah. if you had the misfortune of having something go wrong in your development as a male in the womb, you revert to the female state. you are fucked up forever but, everyone starts as a female. no exceptions.
5fb36b No.51069
>>51063actually a man can revert to being a female at any point, so yeah. the default template is female, it's not hard, it's not special, it's just default. it's just hormones. all fetus start as females, even if you have the y chromosome.
60c81a No.51071
>>51068>>51069Out of all the dumb excuses I've heard for being a transexual, "males are all failed females" has got to be the most ignorant. Were you never fucking taught sperm comes with either X or Y chromosomes in them and those are the ones that will regulate what sex the person is going to be? Or were you ovulated out of an asshole, retard?
5fb36b No.51072
>>47986this is not a valid comparison;
a banana and an apple do not come from the same species, but a man and a woman both come from the same species
5fb36b No.51073
>>51071Males are not failed females, they are failed males; thats why they revert to the default female state.
5fb36b No.51074
>>51073i mean that the ones with problems that is, that's how hermaphrodites come about, they have the y chromosome, but didn't develop properly as a male, so they revert back to being a female
a37f0c No.51075
>>51074this is a lot of ass-pulling to justify cutting your dick off
60c81a No.51076
>>51073>Males are not failed females, they are failed malesgo jog a few miles and come back when your buzz wears off.
>>51074You're saying transexuals are all carriers of the Klinefelter syndrome. That's fucking absurd, and even then they're considered MALES and not herms. There's no "default form" to "revert back" into.
5fb36b No.51079
>>51076you know the x chromosome carries most of the genes for a human right? the y chromosome basically carries a few switches that makes the thing male
5fb36b No.51083
60c81a No.51086
>>51079So that's why women with just a single X grow to be the perfect females, right? Regardless, it's not like when you flip a single direction switch when in the process of building something incredibly simple such as a functioning human organism from scratch you can't just press Undo and change things as you feel like.
>>51083Oh my it says here that the Y chromosome turns you into a male with different genes because the X isn't for girl, but rather constitute base genetic code for both. That's odd.
But you know what? You make a lot of argumentative sense. With that being said, I'm actually a mountain. The minerals that were used in my development simply came to be through a series of switches out of my control that offhandedly lead to constituting my being. I should try reverting back into a pile of rocks so I don't have to deal with your stupid shit anymore.
5fb36b No.51087
>>51086>Oh my it says here that the Y chromosome turns you into a male with different genes because the X isn't for girl, but rather constitute base genetic code for both.yes, and the default is called "female"
5fb36b No.51089
and in some organisms, they can actually change from male to female and back after they are fully developed.
for example
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/fishtree_07 5fb36b No.51091
we humans are not hermaphrodites though, and i understand the frustration and confusion you may experience when someone gets confused about their gender, but the most suffering person is themselves, not you, so show some empathy, and don't judge them
60c81a No.51099
>>51087>the default is called "female"No, they're called X chromosomes. There's no "default" gender, there's a default PRODUCT. If left alone it will GROW into a DEFECTIVE female, but it isn't one there and then. It's like saying plastic could very well come back and turn into fuel because it comes from oil.
>>51091The only frustration I'm getting is trying to make sense of this mess of a tumblr logic that is immediately contested when brought up.
People inherently wanting to go back to their "default" as an "X chromosome" when the act of being girly is an entirely cultural thing that depends entirely on the way a person is raised and has nothing to do with genes?
That people chopping themselves up and shoving things up their ass is in reality an internal female clock going rampant attempting to impregnate and not just a fetish?
What about Females to Males? Where's their Y to revert back to?
Just go back into to the asshole you crawled out from.
>>51089That's not even a mammal.
5fb36b No.51124
>>51099funny thing… there was a time in our history where we used to poop and poop eggs from the same hole, see chickens.
020bbb No.51160
No, it doesn't produce those features as of now, but the fact that it produces the other features is a clear refutation of your original point. Many things do change to them. Hormones are pretty big.
020bbb No.51161
>>51160Meant to quote
>>51024 580659 No.51164
>tfw pueraria mirifica alone has given me borderline B-cups
>tfw just saving up for vocal surgery and laser, and waiting on stemcell vaginoplasty
fuck all yall i know exactly how i've felt since i was 4 and none of you can stop me
020bbb No.51165
>>51164>implying the actual females who post want to stop you and don't fap to the idea of more girls with dicks in the world f32150 No.52124
>>51099>the act of being girly is an entirely cultural thing that depends entirely on the way a person is raised and has nothing to do with genesNot entirely true.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19175758 42a2be No.52132
>>51164>vocal surgeryBut that's not a very certain procedure anywhere! Please consider to excersize and practice your voice until it performs well and sounds female, it is quite attainable with effort!
d2ef9d No.52166
>>51164>pueraria mirificaW-whoa wait, what is this? Some kind of natural plant supplement thing that makes your titties grow? Those things actually work? Tell me more anon pls
d4d649 No.52173
>>52166You need to also consume semen to make it work
I can hook you up with the semen if you want ;)
79163c No.53444
>>52166yes it works, you have to take a lot of it though - i've been superdosing at 1gram+ per day for six months, and i have legitimate sometimes-aching breast growth and my nipples are almost always like pencil erasers
pretty much any document that says it doesn't work involves shit-tier dosage over a too-short timeframe
3958ec No.53617
>>52166It's probably too little too late if you already went through female puberty. You're kind of stuck with what you get once you get exposed to enough estrogent. Other than implants, or if you never went through female puberty, then you're stuck with whatever size you have.
It works on trans women because they never were exposed to enough estrogen.
f968d2 No.53859
>>47526>used to identify as a man>used to>you grew out of your "biologically ingrained identity" and yet you still defend this bullshit f968d2 No.53868
>>51063>dat silent hill picKek
618af0 No.54364
>>47487So if I changed my skin from white to black, I can start saying nigger. Fantastic!
3fef2c No.58140
>>47483Identifying as a woman and being a woman are two completely different things, providing you accept this in your mind you will be at peace with yourself. Playing denial will just lead to more suffering and self hate.
d49fda No.58249
>>47487So if a woman acts like a man, she is a man?
No wonder I'm not attracted to so many sluts, the double standard is real!average age virginity lost.png 4f9918 No.58253
>>48041Kanojo X was such a weird show.
4e0c05 No.58259
Trans women are not real women. They are men. Men that act like and identify with women, and have maybe gotten their dick cut up and turned inside out to make a pseudo vagina, but they are not, and should not expect everyone to accept them as women.
And fuck the tranny social activist that think we need schools to ask kids what gender they think they are, and think little kids need help transitioning into what gender they want to be.
I wouldn't mind trannys at all if it were not for the social activist that want to fuck with our kids and think they are entitled to be accepted as normal women by the rest of the population. The transgendered that think their sexual partners don't have the right to know are also sickening.
d49fda No.58333
>>47500No a broken phone is a brick, hence the term, you bricked your phone.
When the object loses it's purpose it loses it's definition.
A broken roller coaster is no longer a roller coaster, just a bunch of parts of a roller coasters.
So I guess you could say that transsexuals are in-part women.
3ca06f No.58336
>>47483>What does it mean to be a woman?Never say what you really mean, constantly do stupid shit and act like you had no idea what you were doing, never give a direct answer (never ever), and get guys to do stuff for you for free 'cause they're desperate for the pussy.
f8f1d1 No.58943
>>58282Actually no, you can still be a woman with triple x chromosomes and quadruple x chromosomes. The correct answer is that if you have Y chromosome you are therefore a man, that includes xxy and xxxy.
efea18 No.58969
>>58333I think it makes more sense to consider them broken men. They aren't women even if they want to be, and even if they're delusional enough to believe they are. In the same way that I will never be Optimus Prime, David the tranny will never be a woman.
64bb20 No.59004
>>47483You are not and never will be a woman, you can decide you want to live the life style of a woman, but don't lie to yourself and say because you wear a dress you are anything more then a man wearing a dress.
You're an adult, do what you want just don't be a fucking retard.
703252 No.59069
>>58943see
>>47960It's really not as simple as that.
6c64bb No.65696
>>47483
They do stupid shit that make men either hate them, cringe or go, because you're a woman, I forgive, you, as women don't know any better, I have to rear you harder or something to instill the idea you emphasize or something.
Emotive first, like a feels radio receiver, clouds judgement, derive pleasure from simply feeling feels
Hormones all empowering over mind, chemical changes rule their bodies and influence the moreso than males, especially in the area of willpower in all its forms
Can't do anything cool and memorable that people will talk about for years to come that anyone can do.
60feea No.65710
>>65696
You seem quite bothered.
Did your mummy molest you per chance?