3a3e45 No.52573
So yeah, height, how important is it?
I obviously knew for a long time that women prefer tall guys, or to be more specific, guys that are taller than them, so if you have a 5'5 girl then an ideal guy for her would be anywhere from 5'6-6'0, but apparently I couldn't have been more wrong.
So I'm above average (6'1) so height was never a problem for me and as a result I never given it much thought, but then I start browsing this particular board and from what I've learned, mostly from those threads where guys ask girl about their ideal partners or even simply traits they're looking in guys, pretty much everyone of you girls specifies "height" as a must. I mean you'd have lists consisting of traits like charming/kind/funny/caring/open minded and tall.
Anyway, short story short, why are you ladies so obsessed with height? Is it because you'd be to embarrassed to be seen with a guy shorter than you in public? I personally don't care if a girl is taller than me, for example.
99697e No.52597
> Is it because you'd be to embarrassed to be seen with a guy shorter than you in public? I personally don't care if a girl is taller than me, for example.
Yes. A short man, by comparison makes you look less feminine. It's also less socially acceptable since the norm for men to be at least slightly taller than their female partner.
We also like to feel 'safe and protected', a man that's smaller and/or shorter than you just won't give you that same feel of being small and dainty.
26c3dd No.52600
Being the same height as me is fine but I would never date a guy shorter than me. It's irrational but it's like an instinctive revulsion, like how nonwhite men are inherently unattractive to me.
73fcf6 No.52603
Male here.
Why do women get to be picky about height, but men can't? I'm 180cm (about 6ft for you American barbarians) and seriously fucking sick of dealing with female midgets.
Last time I said I wanted a relatively normal girl (160cm to 180cm), I got all kinds of weird looks for being "unreasonable" and "disrespectful". But a girl says they won't date a guy shorter than them and nobody bats an eyelid.
Fuck you short women, seriously, fuck you.
99697e No.52605
>>52603Tall women tend to go for tall men, if they see a short girl dating a tall guy, they act like they're 'stealing' him from them.
Also, why don't you just date tall women? You can have standards you know, nobody's forcing you to date dwarves.
3a3e45 No.52608
>>52597>>52600That's very interesting, so as I thought it is about the social norm and how you appear in public. With no intention of disrespecting, it is somewhat pathetic, the entire idea of picking a partner based on what others might think.
>>52603This guy gets it, kinda.
Height is just such an irrelevant thing for me, unless I was thinking about the genetics of my children that is.
Sometimes I see those 5'2 girls with guys taller than me and honestly it's just funny, the guys literally have to bent over to be on face level with their partner.
73fcf6 No.52610
>>52605> why don't you just date tall women?They're a super rare species. It's even harder to find a girl who's around my height and is not a total bore whose hobbies are Facebook and clubbing.
99697e No.52615
>>52608>it is somewhat pathetic, the entire idea of picking a partner based on what others might think.Well, you wouldn't want to date someone hideous, or extrememly fat, even if you're really attracted to them, because you know how the public perceives you.
Social interactions make up a large and important part of certain people's lives, moreso those of women.
If you date a guy that's shorter than you people in the street will look at you strange, your friends will joke about it, your family will talk about it behind your back etc.
It's something out of the ordinary, so just like having a freakishly huge nose, very unsymmetrical facial features, or being freakishly tall, it'll have ramifications in your ability to have romantic, social, proffessional etc. relationships. It's not a handicap for everyone, but it deffo matters.
99697e No.52617
>>52610Hah, that's true, there's only one super tall girl I know. She's single, model beautiful and intelligent. She's polish though, so you're out of luck.
Maybe there's a dating site for tall people.
Or you could break your shins.
6be0e7 No.52618
>>52573i'm male but the answer is deceptively simple. women see taller men and automatically assume he has a larger penis. any other "rationalizations" happening in this thread is pure bullshit
26c3dd No.52620
>>52608Brah did you even read what I posted? It's a turnoff based on physical appearance, like how being fat/ugly/black is a turnoff. There's probably an evolutionary basis for why girls almost uniformly find short men unattractive.
a608fa No.52626
At 6'2" I would not mind a woman at or above my height
However when a woman is shorter or smaller than me the options open up in sexy time
Like lifting my woman, or big spoon little spoon
I am indifferent on the whole but the advantages are immediately apparent
99697e No.52628
>>52618>i'm male but the answer is deceptively simple. women see taller men and automatically assume he has a larger penis.That's incorrect. We don't necessary want a tall guy, we just don't want one that's shorter than us.
Being at least 5ft 5 isn't 'tall' it's the average. Anything below that and you're a freak. Nobody likes a freak.
6be0e7 No.52632
>>52628where do you live? because women in north america are childish and dont want guys to be merely taller than them, they demand them to literally tower over them so they could live out their father-daughter roleplay
99697e No.52646
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>>52632flag
I have only one friend who's dating a tall guy, and she herself is a bit taller than most of my group.
I think heights vary in different countries, so maybe canadian men are just freakishly tall?
1f3542 No.52667
>>52646How accurate is this chart based on your personal lives, I see plenty of women taller than 170cm every day while this chart claims it's the highest height for women.
ad5b3f No.52669
I'm a 5'8" male and have had nothing but people make fun of me about it. Every fucking week it's something about me being short. I'm tired of it god damn it.
Also
>tfw skinny ottermode w/ ok muscle definition
>people give me shit about being thin but if I bulked up and got huge I would look shorter and people would know I'm compensating.
227e21 No.52713
>>52667I am 6'2" which is 188 cm
Pretty sure it is based on average height in a Facebook group
57a874 No.52714
>>52667The highest average.
55a8fb No.52715
>>52669>letting shit people say get to youwhen will manlets learn
55ebff No.52831
>tfw never had a problem getting girlfriends in the past
>tfw I have a girlfriend right now
>tfw I don't see how men have had problems with women because of their height
tfw 5'5 male
No seriously, I've never had any issues. All my girlfriends have been similar height give or take an inch or two.
Big fucking whoop, if you're shallow enough to make height a deal breaker you're only limiting your options unless you're literally like, 4'10" or something.
99697e No.52837
>>52831Thank you and amen. Height isn't such a big deal. Italian men are some of the hottest and shortest men.
Also, someone making fun of you for being short isn't something to get angst over. People, esp. friends make fun of one another for being fat/thin/tall/short/pale/dark/etc all the time. It's just what makes you unique.
A real alpha is a guy who's confident, whether he's on the lower end or the higher end of the bell curve for height.
55ebff No.52846
>>52837What I've found is women hate insecurity/lack of confidence above anything else.
I've never had any issues in real life, I only hear about this crap online.
I mean, yeah there are clearly limits with height and who you go out with but unless it's like, an 8 inch difference then I don't really give a shit. But then how many women are going to be 6'0+?
If we're compatible then I'll happily give it a shot y'know? I actually really love taller women.
>not sure why I unchecked the flag option so here's muh flag c556c0 No.52852
>Anyway, short story short, why are you ladies so obsessed with height?
Because we want tall children.
Being tall gives you less body issues, more confidence, and if you make very attractive offspring, your offspring might always be able to fall back on a modeling career.
99697e No.52854
>>52852>Because we want tall children.??????
>Being tall gives you less body issuesNo it doesn't. It makes you a freak. It makes you insecure about your tallness, esp. if you're female. It's better to be normal/average.
>your offspring might always be able to fall back on a modeling career.Modelling is actually pretty hard to get into, it's a very scammy 'old boys club' industry. You don't get in just by being 'tall and pretty'.
8bda80 No.52886
>>52852>>52852>Because we want tall childrenFair enough, but considering you aren't planning on having children with every man you date this statement is irrelevant.
>Being tall gives you less body issuesBody issues? If you're talking about self-image then you're wrong because tall people are often very insecure about their height, considering most of them don't have bodies like OP's picture, most of them are skinny which makes them look like slenderman, if anything. On the other hand if you're talking about medical issues regarding their body then there's far more health issues related with being tall than being short, just to name one: Back problems, because tall people hunch their backs a lot to appear less tall or simply to feel more comfortable while sitting or talking with someone. Short people on the other hand often have better blood circulation for obvious reasons.
>nd if you make very attractive offspring, your offspring might always be able to fall back on a modeling careerAside from the fact that there are plenty models who are actually short (since it's easier to achieve and maintain an athletic and esthetic body when you're short) this statement is plain retarded, who in their right mind chooses life partners based on the possibility rate of their children being fit for modeling?
8bda80 No.52888
9b4159 No.52892
>>52669I'm 5'8 and have never, ever heard shit about it from anyone but my 5'8 father and brother. My best friend is 6'10 and he never gives me shit. My wife is 6'0 and never gives me shit. I've dated a 6'2 girl and a 6'4 girl and never gotten any grief.
Might be proportions. I've got the torso, arm length, head, etc, of someone 6'0, but my femurs and tibia are each about 2 inches below the "ideal" 25% of my body height. Plus, I've always lifted, so I've always been thick. If you're 5'8 and built like Elijah Wood instead of Tom Cruise or Mark Wahlberg that may be your entire problem.
It may also be attitude. I never knew I was 2 inches below average. Never even occurred to me. Being male, most females are under my height, so at least 50% of the people around me were shorter than me. Average male height in the US is 5'10, so plenty are under, and those that are at average or above are mostly only 2-4 inches taller. Hardly noticeable. The guys that stand out stand out over everyone, so it never really got to me.
f81c0d No.52893
>>52669I'm 5'475'' and I've seen men shorter than me. Stop getting pissy about teasing and get a better sense of humor, or tell them to fuck off.
>making excuses not to get buffwho gives a fuck if they think you're compensating. getting stronger is fuckin' awesome.
99697e No.52905
>>52893This guy gets it.
You're way more attractive than some 6ft tall faggot who bases a large chunk of his self-worth on his height. You have a winner's attitude.
Anyway, asian girls often don't even hit 5ft, so why won't insecure guys just date asian girls?
6114c0 No.52915
>>52905> why won't insecure guys just date asian girls?Is this some kind of joke?
99697e No.52921
>>52915No, I'm serious. If a guy is that bummed out about his height, why not date a teeny tiny girl? Then he'll get to be taller. Everyone's happy.
55745f No.52935
>>52921It's never happened to me but I've heard some picky shit from the tiny girls, like must be at least a foot taller than her in heels
>mfw I knew a 5'0 girl who wore 8 inch heels who turned down a guy who was 5'10 because he wasn't "at least 6 inches taller than me in heels" because he was "too short" 88363d No.52941
>>52893But the question is :
Do you get pussy ?
d9a3bb No.52945
>>52935>2015>wearing heels 63f683 No.52948
>>52945This. Flats uber alles.
ad5b3f No.52949
>>52892I too look like I should be tall but my legs are 4 inches short. I didn't know I was short until /fit/ and real life people calling me short.
>>52893>Tfw I went to my city's equivalent to a mardi gras parade and saw a million short, jacked men that looked ridiculous but then I realized they were my height. 99697e No.52952
>>52945What's so bad about heels? Is tumblr leaking again?
3c3763 No.52957
stop dating short guys so they'll just die out and the master-race tall genetics will survive , it's evolution 101 people !
9b4159 No.52966
>>52952I personally think they look terrible in 90% of contexts. The remaining 10% being kinky situations in which they're worn not to make the ass look good or a girl slightly taller, but because they're ungainly or uncomfortable or meant to sexualize.
Then again, I don't like traditional fancy dress at all. Give me a girl in sweatpants and a tank top over a skin tight black cocktail dress any day.
>>52957If genes were the end-all to height the national averages in countries wouldn't skyrocket when nutrition improved or plummet during famine/disease/war/etc:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-much-of-human-height/Nutrition and a healthy lifestyle are nearly as important as genetics.
f82e6b No.53123
>>52957And that's been happening for at least the last 100 years, ever since arranged marriages went out of style in the West. Your average bish goes after a lanklet and manlets get left in the dust.
981d5e No.53133
>>52966Technically genetics don't mean shit if your genetics have nothing to do with surviving in society, which height doesn't (again, technically doesn't).
f82e6b No.53155
>>53133Apparently in the world of guns (last 500 years), being 4 inches taller than the average man is all the rage and you'll need that to protect your little lovemuffin and your bundle-of-love offspring.
9b4159 No.53201
>>53133Actually, taller people have higher incidences of heart disease, nerve problems, joint problems, etc. There's a formula for determining body size to mass ratio and the current human form functions ideally in the 5'6-6'0 range for men, 5'2-5'8 for women. The longest lived men on the planet also tend to be closer to 5'6 than 6'0.
As heart disease and nervous disorders are common causes of death in our modern society, these genes do impact contemporary survival.
The issue is height kicks in within 20 years of life while heart and joint problems generally take a bit longer. The 6'10 guy I know had to have his knees replaced by 25. He already had 2 kids by then. And that's an abnormally young age to begin experiencing height-related problems. They usually don't impact your life until the 40s.
ad5b3f No.53251
>>52957>>53123But being a little short or average really shouldn't be a big deal. As
>>53201 said there are a lot of health benefits to being short, plus tall people were a bit of an abnormality until the past 300 years.
9b4159 No.53280
>>53123>>53251Additionally, it's not arranged marriages that kept genes like Bill Gates' in the pool, but monogamy instead.
In nearly all Primate species, females cluster around a few high status males. And humans are no exception. Women employ strategies like preselection because they have to be more picky than men about who they sleep with, because the risk of a bad relationship or pregnancy is much worse.
If a woman rolls with a decent looking homeless man and gets knocked up, for most of human history, she's shit out of luck. She traded some short-term happiness for years of sorrow.
A man hooks up with a decent looking homeless woman he's got no lingering problems from it aside from maybe an STD, which were somewhat less common before cities.
This is why women prefer men who are taken. If a man is married, some other woman has already vetted him and decided he's a good man to have. So other women see that and use it as a shot-cut in deciding if he's worth their time or not.
So women naturally accumulate around a minority of these guys. Thanks to monogamy, however, we're all forced to settle.
Men usually have to pick one woman, and women have to pick one man. This shifts the status hierarchy and forces those untaken to settle for the new top of the eligible pool. And so on and so forth until women who may have been the 8th girl in a harem to a wealthy man are now marrying men who may have died virgins because they're not in the top 10 of men in their village.
This enabled useful traits that were not sexually attractive, like nerdiness, or obsessive compulsive tendencies, to be passed on to later generations.
And we generally have women to thank:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/05/120530172011.htm 981d5e No.53417
>>53280The problem with this is that women came to resent the men that they had to settle for after a while. As it's said, women would rather share the top 10% of men than have a mediocre or even decent man all to themselves.
99697e No.53418
>>53280This is so true. You're a wise man.
9b4159 No.53440
>>53417And of course, many men share the feelings you mentioned. Middle and lower class women in a community weren't first tier wife material but middle and low status males had to settle with them just as much as the women had to settle with those men.
And certainly many women are happy to have one mid-status or even low-status man all to themself. In other apes, it's common for females to bond with a lower status mate or sleep around and then go to the high-status males for children.
Bonobo females do this. They avoid lower status males and run off with high status males while ovulating, in an attempt to ensure they only reproduce with higher status males. Then they go back to sleeping around with everyone when they're no longer fertile.
Human females have a version of this same instinct. You may have heard before that women prefer nurturing, kind men at some points in their cycle, then prefer aggressive, dominant men while fertile. They want to bond with the nurturing man, but want to reproduce with the dominant man.
It's also worth noting that monogamy was so popular because it ensured support from those other men. In a harem, you can't count on the support of your man because you're constantly competing with other women for his attention and resources. By settling with a lower status male you nearly guarantee support, protection, and resources from him. This improved outcomes for offspring.
Like I said, and as the link I provided explains, women generally chose monogamy. They pushed it on men, not the other way around. Because before monogamy we lived like most other apes: Eating, sleeping, screwing, day in and day out. A man's paradise. Women, however, being smaller and more burdened by pregnancy, began withholding sex until a man outcompeted his peers by providing her resources and protection. This began an arms race and may actually be the main reason humans built things like the pyramids or rockets. The bar men had to meet to win the affection of women in their communities crept slowly upwards.
This is the core of nearly all human societies. It's Traditionalism. It's the ancient social bargain: Women exchange love, sex, a home, and children to men for resources and protection. This is why men are the pursuers in human courtship and why slutshaming is a thing.
(This is also why some people think it's impossible for rape to occur within a married relationship. They think that because the man has provided for her and put a ring on it and guaranteed her a future, he's owed sex, children, housekeeping, etc. When a husband forces himself on his wife, he's just holding her accountable to her end of the bargain. This is obviously antithetical to the modern ideas of personal liberty.
Which is why I think BDSM has taken off the way it has in recent decades. BDSM makes this ancient bargain explicit. "You belong to me. I will care for you and you will do as I say." Making it clear to both parties what is actually going on in the relationship. The Dom (of either sex) is providing structure and support and expecting full submission from their sub.)
Sorry for rambling. It's just a very broad topic.
9b4159 No.53452
>>53440Derp. I left out a key consequence to monogamy: By relieving the pressure to constantly keep a look out for sex, and by relieving the need to compete for sex continually in an individual's life, humans acquired more free time for other things.
Getting married young, in some cases as young as childhood, and almost always before 20, meant that humans spent their primes, their 20s, 30s, and in some especially bountiful locations their 40s, no longer competing for sex, but free to focus on work. Like building bridges, towns, forges, armories, etc. Maintaining militias, going on expeditions, trade runs, etc.
I welcome any single/unmarried 20- or 30-somethings reading to mentally tally how much time they've spent on behavior intended to find or attract a mate. Time that you might have spent on other things if you'd settled into a permanent relationship at 16-18. Working out, practicing your makeup, going to bars, working overtime to buy a better car or get into a better apartment. All things you may not have bothered with if you'd settled already.
Certainly, it's better in the long run to wait and see. To keep your options open. To grow more as a person before settling. And it can be fun to go hunting for a partner. Or to have a lot of partners. But that's in 2015. In 1015 or even 6,015BCE the average life expectancy, if you survived infancy, was closer to 55 than today's ~75-85+.
aa9492 No.53550
Tall guy here, I feel sorry for you manlets out there. It's something you can't change and girls don't like you for it. feelsbadman.
Even moreso because you'd think that short girls would at least dig you, but no, the shorties go for us tall guys (which I'm not complaining about because short girls are a huge turn on for me).
086d13 No.53585
I'm a tall girl, but I don't really mind dating a slighty smaller guy as long as he he has broad shoulders. I like to feel feminine and be the girl even though I'm tall.
A lot of guys don't want to be with girls taller than them either, so I guess it goes both ways.
aa9492 No.53596
>>53585I wouldn't not date a girl because she was taller than me, but it'd definitely be strange
4a9068 No.53610
>mfw im 6'5
8a94c6 No.53611
>>52957What I find most funny about this is how you and other girls don't realize that your genetics factor in too. If you marry some tall 6'+ guy and you're only 5'3" your kids will probably be shorter.
Anyways Romania didn't you say you were overweight and hated exercising in another thread? This reinforces my point of not dating girls who aren't at least semi-fit further b/c there is no excuse to not be. Signs of a lazy personality and I'd rather not have the chance of having lazy children. Having double standards is fun.
ad5b3f No.58252
>>53610you turn yourself on?
01983b No.58270
I really don't see what the big deal is about height. I'm 6' and my last bf was 5'8" and I tend to wear 4" heels pretty much every day. I think the tallest guy i've dated was 5'11"
7f101e No.58279
0c1b6c No.58283
>>58270lol tallest is 5'11
dont see you mention the 5'1 or 5'2 or whatnot…. because you didnt date anyone that short.
01983b No.58285
>>58283So what? The reason I didn't date anyone that short is because men are frail little creatures that pretend you don't exist if you're that much taller than them.
09166c No.58292
>>58285Wow. that's bitter.
73fcf6 No.58297
>>52952What's so *good* about heels? They look retarded and make your feet hurt.
0c1b6c No.58310
>>58285Those are nice bitter assumptions you make.
short men are weak and frail and wont talk to me so fuck them.
LOL ok feminazi trash…back to tubler so you can get everyone to back up your toxic hate.
Shit I talk to girls of all heights and I laugh at girls that use shit excuses like short guys are weak or other not fact bullshit.
Hopefully you stay single and keep putting on pounds so you fit in better on tubler
a25626 No.58312
>>58310>>58285pot, meet kettle
kettle, this is pot
01983b No.58313
>>58292Eh, if short men completely ignore my existence, why should I give them the time of day?
01983b No.58315
>>58310Thanks for proving my point. You're exactly the kind of frail little man I would never date. Enjoy not being able to reach the top shelf.
61cf0c No.58317
>>58313>>58315BTFO
small men truly are the worse
73fcf6 No.58320
6'0" male here. I know I'm not tall, but I'm fucking sick of short women. They should get the same treatment short men get for being short and useless as fuck. I wish you womanlets didn't exist, you're a joke of a human being. If you're under 5'10", please kill yourself, you can't even fit a 3" dick in your tiny toy vagina.
I hate short women with a burning passion.
09166c No.58322
>>58313Are you fucking two meters tall? cause you make it sound like you're in the hobbit dating scene.
01983b No.58324
>>58322I'm 6'. Apparently that's too tall for a lot of guys. I don't really care, as there's lots of dudes that are willing to date a taller woman.
09166c No.58326
>>58324 You're making it sound like they owe it to you.
01983b No.58330
>>58326No one owes me a goddamn thing. Why should I keep trying to get a short guy if he's clearly not interested? Besides, there's lots of tall guys that have rejected me too, because of my height. Everyone is different.
23d12e No.58339
> tfw 1.98 broad shouldered mofo
> tfw constantly getting hit on by grills
> tfw my dick is still a little sore from the womenlet who literally jumped onto me yesterday and would have started fucking me on the dancefloor if I didn't take her home
> tfw I saw a guy who had both taller and had bigger arms than me yesterday
> tfw this never happens and I was mirin
> tfw you realize everybody else must be mirin you all the time
fuck man im almost thirty but old beta mental habits are hard to lose.
feels good not being a manlet.
738c34 No.58419
21fba1 No.58451
>>58330>Why should I keep trying to get a short guy if he's clearly not interested?A lot of short guys are interested. They don't acknowledge you, because they assume they have no chance with you at all, because they are being shut down by short girls constantly (due short chicks going after tall dudes). Therefore, they assume that you won't even acknowledge them, and if you approach a short guy, he will think that you are just messing with them, unless you are persistent enough.
Short guys and tall girls are both bitter as fuck. Tall girls don't have tall guys to get together with, because short chicks jump on their dicks. For that reason, short guys have no short chicks either. And that makes both of those groups resentful.
01983b No.58454
>>58451Yeah I guess you're right about that. Honestly, I've approached short guys because they looked interesting to talk to, and they're like nah, where's the camera. I've been shot down too many times this past year so I'm just gonna be on my own for the time being.
1ef439 No.58568
I'm 5'11" but I always say that I'm 6' hehe
But yeah, I also want a tall girl.
1223b9 No.58622
>posts height thread
>not insecure
Pick one.
1223b9 No.58625
>>58622>be at work>in aisle by myself working>hear group of female co-workers over in the next aisle talk about the guys they work with>hey what about anon? He's really cute >I know right? If he wasn't so short I so would>Totally, his good looks are wasted by his height it's so annoying>When a guy is really hot but short it's such a disappointment Fucking hell women, and you've got the nerve to call me shallow because I don't want to date fatties?
Christ.
I'm 5'6" 4a79cb No.58640
>>58625Yep enjoy the feminist double standards.
8a2728 No.58777
>>58640But none of them are Femicunts though. Just cunts.
23dc1c No.58908
>>58625>call me shallow because I don't want to date fattiesIf all men were shallow manlets like you, those coworkers would eat
all of the ice cream.
Just… all of it.
Because fuck it, no point not to. And fuck you too.