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dd9bda No.53159
Would you wait until marriage?
Would you date a /christian/?
81fcc3 No.53166
>>53159buddy you are making your board look bad
dd9bda No.53462
b1649c No.53466
You fuckers gave me shit for being a different religion after claiming to be all open minded and different. Go fuck yourselves. I'm not even a durka, but holy shit even that board is more fun than you people and your insufferable shit.
8f11e6 No.53483
>>53166So all the sex threads on this board are fine but this anon mentions marriage and you're down their throat about it?
da6d51 No.53486
>>53466I'm christian and dating a christian, but we didn't wait until marriage because we don't tink god gives a fuck.
b1649c No.53488
>>53483/christian/ hates this board. They say it's full of harlots.
8f11e6 No.53491
>>53488Well, you do talk about sex a lot. I mean, Jesus dined with prostitutes and all that so we don't hate you, but we do wish you'd turn away from your sins like most of us (at least try to) do.
b1649c No.53493
>>53491>youI'm not a regular here, dude. My other boards are slow and I'm stuck in my house due to a travel ban because blizzard.
103300 No.53495
/christian/ is a shithole that should be renamed to /catholic/
dfd477 No.53497
>>53495I wish.
Christian /fem/s are welcome on /christian/. You can have an enclave surely if you keep the natural order of the Lord.
63eefc No.53498
I don't have a problem with waiting until marriage, I want to lose my virginity to a guy I really love anyways and if he wants to wait that's fine, I'm not that interested in sex anyways. As long as it doesn't tempt him to rush getting married.
I don't think I could date a Christian, seems to me like almost all of them were just raised into their beliefs and never questioned them, and I dislike that. It's fine to hope there's a god but I can't think of any logical reason to believe there is one. Not a fan of really strict morals either. I'm agnostic, by the way.
103300 No.53499
>>53497I was insulting the board
dfd477 No.53502
>>53499Being thought of as especially catholic can never be an insult to a properly disposed christian.
8f11e6 No.53503
>>53499>Catholic>insultlolok
cbe0a9 No.53522
I'm happy waiting until marriage since I want my first time to be with someone I love. The fact that they're christian is okay too, but they'd have to accept that I'm a non-religious occultfag and be okay with the children not being forced into participating in either belief system.
dfd477 No.53524
> non-religious occultfag
How about you dabble in the mysteries instead of occult?
af245c No.53526
I wanted to but I got talked out of it by an insistent boyfriend. I left the Catholic church as a teen and am thinking about doing RCIA when it starts this year, but I really like premarital sex…
8f11e6 No.53527
>>53524Yeah, this. Eastern Orthodoxy is full of mysticism, and you get the advantage of the weight of that continual living tradition rather than a hodgepodge of theories and random practices.
dfd477 No.53532
>>53526You’re already baptised, no need for RCIA. Come to #8church on irc.rizon.net
>>53527There is plenty of mysticism in the catholic church, too.
cbe0a9 No.53537
>>53524I've tried evoking angels before and they messed me up/it was over my powerlvl. Entities linked to Abrahamic religion frighten me. If it makes any difference, I was baptised as a Catholic.
dfd477 No.53538
>>53537Maybe you should find your way to a confessional and confess that you have dabbled in the occult. Nothing is lost yet.
cbe0a9 No.53539
>>53538I'm okay now, but I cannot go back to Christianity or Catholicism just yet as I cannot deny myself my freedom to explore so that I may have a chance at redemption in the eyes of a single entity. If I am wrong, then I entrust my own intuition to lead me to whatever my fate is; be it Catholicism or no. Thank you for trying to help me though, it's kind of you.
9fe9df No.53540
>>53526Premarital sex is the best kind of sex.
dfd477 No.53543
>>53539Another said, “I will follow you, Lord; but let me first say farewell to those at my home.” Jesus said to him, “No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of God.” (Lk 9:61-62 RSVCE)
If you ever need help, come to #8church on irc.rizon.net, lapsed sister in Christ.
2f9623 No.53549
No
da6d51 No.53560
>>53543Sounds like god is pretty damn picky, so why bother with the whole heaven thing?
c87512 No.53568
da6d51 No.53580
>>53568Oh, we're not regular christians. We're fake christians I suppose. We go to church, but we don't interact with the priest or community, we want to raise our children as catholic, but without the sick anti-masturbation focus.
We're already married in the eyes of god by being exclusively together.
I know that this isn't a popular belief, and that it's kinda stupid, but a god that cares so much about masturbation, sex, contraception and other animalistic things, is not one I want to believe in.
dd9bda No.53589
>>53580>sick anti-masturbation focus>a god that cares so much about masturbation, sex, contraception and other animalistic things, is not one I want to believe inI'm sorry, but it sounds like you don't want to believe in a God who doesn't let you do what you want. Why are your morals so much better than an omniscient God's?
947fcd No.53688
I'd never date a Christian. Religion is mental illness.
103300 No.53689
>>53688I'd never date a Catholic for the same reason
fe7853 No.53711
>>53689>catholics aren't christianprotestant plz go
55f27d No.53713
>>53711Catholicism has become the religion for those who say they don't believe in god but still want to be religious.
dfd477 No.53724
>>53713That seems so awfully wrong.
2c045d No.53727
>>53568Why do you quote mistranslated texts? Are you a fundamentalist?
dfd477 No.53728
>>53727The ESV is pretty solid. t. catholic
2c045d No.53730
>>53728Solid, like a rock? Maybe in the sense that breaking it into tiny decontextualized snippets has the same result as doing the same to a rock would have.
"Marriage" in modern English for example doesn't and couldn't even exist in any shape in the bible. But it does in these shitty translations that wish to install modern sensibilites into scripture so that it would be easier for secular larpers and self-important fundamentalists to pretend they're still following
some form of the text.
cb55f2 No.53754
b7a5c1 No.53779
>>53159Why the fuck would you ever marry? Just open up a car battery and take an acid shower.
07e855 No.53797
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>>53159>Would you wait until marriage?Couldn't wait. Too impatient.
>Would you date a /christian/?yep
5501e3 No.53798
>>53462>>53474ya'll niggaz is gay
cd6eba No.53820
>>53728It's pro-Calvinist bullshit made by and for Baptist megachurches. It claims to have been translated by a quora of hundreds representing all denominations of Protestant Christianity as well as Catholics and Jews but this is simply propaganda. It's obvious the real theology the text of the ESV is pushing, although the maps and translation notes included can be useful when looked at with a critical eye.
Funnily enough, the best way to get an idea for what the Bible actually says about anything, in English, is to avoid any translations that market themselves as "Christian." I'm not even a fedorafag, I'm saying this as a devout Christian who's seen through the scam.
dfd477 No.53824
>>53820Would a catholic translation be fine then? The Challoner Version of the Douay Rheims maybe?
c24e59 No.54051
>>53560
>God is picky, so why botherTwo problems with that.
1: God isn't picky. All are welcome in the Kingdom of God. He asks you to respect his teaching, but you won't get expelled from the heaven club just for one wrong move.
2: Even if God were picky, it would still be worth it. Most popular depictions of Hell are pretty mild compared to reality, as are most depictions of heaven, although in the opposite way.
Every time I read a thread about Christianity, the lack of understanding of even the most basic theological ideas is depressing. It's like you learned everything you know about Christ from reddit.
d958ae No.54059
>>53820I have a copy of the NRSV but I thought it was mostly for use in secular universities for theology students and the footnootes have a lot of weird comments about feminist interpretations and junk. I got it when I was just testing the waters with going back to be religious from being a fedorafag but looking at it now it seems 2jew4me. What's a good translation to read? (Also I'm
>>53526 on a different network)
f0a3cf No.54072
>>53466>durka >being in any form less insufferable than even presbyteriansLol
4f8ec9 No.54112
>>53797>Couldn't wait. Too impatient.I hope you enjoy burning in the lake of fire, you dirty fornicator! Having sex before marriage is like sleeping with Satan! You'll have little demon babies and your womb will become barren.
>fornicating>anno domini 2015WWJD
55f27d No.54208
>>53560Understanding the nature of God (at least with Christianity) will tell you he really isn't quite picky, just as
>>54051 said.
There are some stipulations, sure.
But I won't get into that right now-too tired.
c8b28e No.54229
>>53159Yes and yes.
I am a Christfag, and waiting until marriage is my default.
d70c7e No.54239
i wanted to wait until marriage but i fell in love. lost my virginity at 22 after dating the guy for a year.
da6d51 No.54374
>>53589>implying I follow the old testament.There are different christian denominations out there, not everyone follows the old testament to the dot you know, that was more of a jewish book.
It's preferable to take a modern approach to the bible actually. It's a book that was written in light of the mores and culture of its time. The whole marriage thing was institutionalised and developed upon later on, initially it was loosely 'the person you're with' and you didn't require a priest to be married. Same with priests being celibate, it's not said that it's necessary to be celibate if you're a priest in the bible.
>>54051Really? I've found christians to be pretty picky and judgemental, which is why I don't 'call myself' a christian. I mean, the guy I'm replying to above is a christian who says if you have sex before marriage, you're a harlot.
692751 No.54456
>being religious
9fe9df No.54528
>>54239Only a Mormon would marry someone before they had sex with them…they could have a fucked up vagina or hate sex or be horrible at blow job skills.
e87f78 No.54630
>>54374It's a good thing you don't call yourself a Christan since it's not just the old testament what condemns adultery
>Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. e87f78 No.54631
7ffe55 No.54642
Illuminati detected.
dd9bda No.54869
ea79d0 No.54951
It's too late to wait.
59f213 No.54963
/fem/ scores points with this thread…
82edfc No.55027
>>54642actually yes.
The center circle is an alchemical circle, the peacock traditionally used to depict luciferianism. Birds to the left and right represent duality, as in evil is the same thing as good.
Then we see a depicition of the Kabbalistic tree of life with Hermetic symbols and alphabet adorning.
The bright hebrew words at the center top mean Ain Soph Aur, the hidden God without a name.
To the bottom right hand corner in the orange outfit is a depiction of Hermes Trismegistus.
2c10e3 No.55126
>>53589Those graphs have nothing to do with masturbation nor contraception.
dd9bda No.55127
>>55126I never said they did. I was just posting something somewhat relevant.
f549cf No.55147
not to be indelicate ladies, but any grounded christian guy isn't gonna be looking for relationships with non-believers
sorry and all, but that's just how da bredren roll
oh, and just in case you're thinking of convertan to snap one up - a real man would wait at least 3 years to make sure your relationship with Jesus is similarly grounded before even thinking of starting a romantic relationship with you
103300 No.55157
>>55147> but any christian isn't gonna be looking for relationships with non-believersAlright
>>wait at least 3 yearsu wot m8
134952 No.55160
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>>55157>u wot m8well look, the most important relationship anyone can have is with their Creator - and once someone has met God, and committed to following him, it takes at least 3 years to get really established in your understanding of what Jesus has done for you
… so any guy who comes along thinking he can start hitting on the hawty convert ain't really following Christ in that - cos if he really cared about the girl he would want her to know her Saviour before getting to know himself
103300 No.55170
>>55160I dispute the 3 year claim.
It does not take 3 years to get to know someone.
dfd477 No.55173
>>55147 >>55160
Sure your holier than thou attitude won’t lead you to hell one day? I petition you to correct your arrogance.
t. catholic
ebfa36 No.55175
>>55170> It does not take 3 years to get to know someone.Jesus is Infinite - and it will take an Eternity to know Him fully
… but 3 years of immersing oneself in scripture and walking with The Lord is a conservative estimate on how long it takes to really become a disciple
103300 No.55185
>>55175I am referring to a relationship with a human.
I think someone can meet and get married in less than two years and it be a perfectly okay thing.
You have a thing or two going for you it seems though, at least you're not Catholic!
3bd928 No.55190
>>55185oh, i'm sorry - it seems i didn't explain myself properly
i agree that a human couple could easily get to know each other well enough in 2yrs to decide whether to marry
but i was talking about the scenario where a young woman becomes a christian, and needs time to grow in that relationship with Jesus before involving herself in a romantic one with a fella - 3 years being half-decent, since it's the time Jesus took to train up his first disciples
… and any church-going fella who doesn't give a girl the time to do so, isn't really looking out for her best interests
55f27d No.55193
>>55170Personally, I would agree that it certainly doesn't take 3 years to get to know someone.
But, I would support the idea of waiting at least 3-5 years of being together before even attempting to get married.
The reasoning behind that is to ensure this person is who they are, that the relationship can be maintained and it's flaws accepted, to confirm that the other person is as dedicated to the relationship as you are, and to make sure you can deal with living with that person for the rest of your life.
53fc87 No.55214
>>55193y'know my '3 years' figure was in relation to how long it takes for someone to go from converting to becoming a grounded christian, yeah?
but putting that aside; when you talk about people being together 3-5 years before marriage, are you talking about living together?
reason i ask is because studies have shown that 79% of couples who live together, separate within 5-7 years - and couples who live together,
but do marry, are more likely to divorce
55f27d No.55220
>>55214No, I wouldn't live together with them.
I mean hell, if that's your thing.
But personally, no I would not.
134952 No.55224
>>55220oh well jeekers Xeno, 3-5 years is a long time to make up your mind - i'd reckon you could get engaged after a year and then if yous survive the 6-12 months of planning a ceremony, you're probably good to go
course it really all depends on whether you share the same values, and are realistic about how people grow and change - and are committed to nurturing each other in that
also; there will be babbyz
… and arguments about which bit of the toothpaste tube is the right place to squeeze
103300 No.55231
>>55190Ahh.
Well, I think we've derailed this board's purpose far enough to be quite honest.
51a2e8 No.56105
Catholic Alchemist here.
>>54642>>55027
>actually yesNot at all
> the peacock traditionally used to depict luciferianism. Birds to the left and right represent duality, as in evil is the same thing as good.Maybe you're thinking about Yazidism, because the peacock, crow, and swan simply represent various stages of the Alchemical process (also the words say "I am the black, the white, the yellow, and the red"). The dualities are most commonly in regards to the Masculine and Feminine or heavenly and earthly.
>Then we see a depicition of the Kabbalistic tree of life with Hermetic symbols and alphabet adorning.It's an alchemical tree, which is to say it's not the Qabbalistic Tree of Life. It seems the words on the tree misled you. The symbols are the seven planetary metals, above which are substances which correspond to the zodiac.
>The bright hebrew words at the center top mean Ain Soph Aur, the hidden God without a name.Actually that's the Tetragammmaton (YHVH), and used together with the lamb and the dove it symbolizes the Trinity.
>To the bottom right hand corner in the orange outfit is a depiction of Hermes Trismegistus.It's him alright.
027673 No.65937
I've thought about you, and I know that I said goodbye to you so quickly the last time I saw you. That was wrong of me and must have left you wondering things.
I really don't know what to say exactly and I'm a little embarassed to be writing you. I'm sorry for doing that, and writing you now. I never had any intentions to contact you ever again. I just wanted to know how you've been, and making sure you've moved on. I've felt really bad about it and been concerned, hopefully you didn't mind it as much as me.
I guess I don't really know why I was so afraid to tell you that, or why I've been so afraid of you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6etk6aKXxhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLcdPpjKKHo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGJuMBdaqIw
Goodbye, although, you're welcome to speak to me if you'd like for now. Let me know you've read this please.
027673 No.65938
I am your friend, and just that, I wish you well in life. I really hope you read this, I care about you a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jna2r56EXTg
027673 No.65939
I thought what I had done was alright, but it wasn't. I don't know how this will make you feel either, I'm sorry
If you were waiting for me then you need to stop and move on. I just have no interest in you, it won't happen even if we speak.
I'm sorry, I'm doing this because I love you.
027673 No.65940
Maybe you already didn't care, but it's best that you know that I'll never be contacting you again and for that to be fully clear. Move on and be happy.
Please let me know you've read this.
027673 No.65941
It's not that I expect you to be upset, but It was a concern. You can call me crazy.
027673 No.65942
I'll give you tomorrow if you'd like to say anything to me, after that it's best we part ways permanently.
I'm not sure I should have done this or if you'll read it.
I'd just thought of you often and wondered what it was you thought and was wondering what was keeping me from telling you besides that I was afraid to.
027673 No.65953
027673 No.65954
I wanted to add that I know this wasn't a fair situation for you and I'm glad that I knew you.
Take care of yourself.
027673 No.65958
Sorry, I know that you've read it now though. You're going to hate that so forgive me.
Bye.