b135bb No.54527
This is something that's sort of bugged me for a while and I figure you ladies might provide an honest answer since this is (mostly) an anonymous board. My question is:
Why do women never give men honest dating advice?
Some of the first places many guys go to for dating advice are their female friends and relatives. It's logical to think that this would be the best source of information but, in all reality, it doesn't seem to be.
Women always give out the same old advice about being yourself, being funny and polite and friendly. All of that is good, of course, but it doesn't really help a guy get with a girl.
I've never heard women straight up tell a guy that he needs to start working out, get a haircut, shave, and buy some new clothing. They never seem to say something like "Well, you're a little awkward in social situations so you should work on that."
It's always "The right girl will like you for YOU." Which is nice but, once again, doesn't help a guy who has pretty much run out of ideas.
Take my buddy, for example. He did alright but when he became a marine women were all over him. It was hilarious because he couldn't go anywhere without women trying to fuck him. After he left the service and got out of shape, the pool of hungry women dried up.
Even I experienced this. I had always been mildly attractive, or so I've been told. When I started lifting and showing some real gains, though, women would hit on my right in front of their husband or bf.
It was like night and day. I got some attention before but I got TONS of attention after.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being attracted to primary masculine characteristics just like there's nothing wrong with a guy being attracted to a nice set of tits.
I'm just curious as to why women never seem to give out honest advice. Yeah, you might hurt the guy's feelings but he would probably be really grateful that someone FINALLY told him the truth.
(Please post in the Sticky above, you may get better responses. Thank you.)
Post last edited at 2015-02-08 05:01:34
95616a No.54553
>Why do women never give men honest dating advice?
Because they get kinda mad when we do. Also, it's not nice to hurt someone's feelings.
Sure, I could tell a guy 'you need to dress better for a date' or 'stop wearing rapist glasses' but he won't necessarily take my advice, and all it'll do is make him sad.
>Yeah, you might hurt the guy's feelings but he would probably be really grateful that someone FINALLY told him the truth.
I think that's for other men to do. His male friends, family members etc. should be able to tell him things like 'yo, you come off as a bit boring when you talk about yourself all the time' or 'you smell bad'.
Also, it's different for different people. What sort of woman are you looking to date? Where do you live? What social class are you? What do you look like? What are your hobbies? Do you want a one night stand or a longer relationship? etc.
For some guys it really is a matter of just being more confident.
For others though, it really is just a matter of shaving off their monobrow and not 'negging' or whatever.
It really varies.
083365 No.54559
>>54553>implying family>implying friends 1ae29e No.54579
They're trying to "help" you by being nice to you. Lots of people are used to being nice and diplomatic rather than brutally honest.
I'm not sure if they realize what they're into or have precise self awareness of their reactions.
They may not understand your intentions to have lots of attention and sex. They may think you just want to be a good innocent hubby, so they're going to give you feedback that would make you be another selfless good behaving boy (which is nicer for them). They may think you can't or won't change yourself even if they did give you brutally honest advice so they give encouragement that is easier for you to actually achieve.
Then there's the possibility of women not understanding other women. Perhaps they have different tastes or don't know how other women will act around you.
b28ae3 No.54583
>>54553>all it'll do is make him sad.I suppose that's true for some people but, speaking personally, I would have been very grateful if someone had straight up given me real advice, pointed out things I could actually change, when I was still in my awkward phase.
After lifting for a while, I literally said "Fuckin hell, if someone had just told me to do this back in middle school I would have avoided so many problems."
I think a lot of the anger guys feel stems from trying so hard to follow advice like "Just be yourself and treat her nicely" and then it doesn't work.
The first and most important thing is primary attraction. A guy can be as nice as can be but if you aren't initially attracted to him, which is usually based on physical attributes, you aren't going to date him, let alone sleep with him.
After years of trying to do what women say they want, a guy tends to get frustrated. That's how they end up on places like TheRedPill where they get advice like "Man up and work out" which actually produces results.
Maybe it's just me. I tend to give people honest advice even if they don't really like hearing it because I feel it's far more productive.
>>54579>Then there's the possibility of women not understanding other women.That's what confuses me. The same woman who will tell a guy to just be a gentleman and wait for the right girl will also turn around and soak her panties over a dude like Chris Pratt.
Is it a lack of self awareness or do women not want to admit that they're attracted to stereotypical physical attributes?
95616a No.54594
>>54583>do women not want to admit that they're attracted to stereotypical physical attributes?Just like how men are attracted to a variety of physical and mental features, women too are attracted to a variety of mental and physical features. Some like dark italian guys, some like older looking guys, some like chubby guys, some like guys with chisseled jawlines. Some like shy guys, some like cocky guys.
It really depends. Sure, there's the universal 'attractive dude' that most women will fall for, at least in one night stand terms, but it's like that for men too. A girl with a nice face and huge tits will get your attention. Doesn't mean it's ALL you want and ALL you'll accept.
b28ae3 No.54600
>>54594So basically women give advice on what they personally like in a man and not general advice about what could help a guy be more successful with women?
That actually makes a bit of sense.
I guess they would give idealized advice about what they personally want. That type of advice would focus more on things like intelligence and compassion than more obvious attractive elements such as being in shape and having a nice smile.
Like if a guy was being interviewed about what he likes in a woman he probably wouldn't say "Big tits, nice ass, blonde, likes sports."
1ae29e No.54604
>>54583I'm sure people have less than perfect self awareness over powerful feelings like attraction and lust.
I'm sure it's honestly tougher for women to find the word given that many of their desires are more finicky and emotionally specific.
Then of course I'm sure people aren't often completely open about their innermost thoughts, feelings and desires. Especially when it comes to something they could be called a slut for or feel ashamed, vulnerable, or just make it seem like they're easy for a certain kind of guy.
TheRedPill does have some good ideas and advice, BTW, but I would consider what they're saying critically. They have their biases and they're certainly not perfect.
>>54594Absolutely, very well said.
9be8d7 No.54613
>>54604What I've notice about TheRedPill is that their observations are generally good because they're looking at human interactions very critically.
Where they fail is the theory. They make observations, then they create a theory, and they just blindly cling to it like a religion. You can see this most clearly in their belief that "The Wall" is something that happens to every woman, without fail, at a specific age.
That is obviously not true
5218d2 No.54646
>>54527>Why do women never give men honest dating advice?We do, but different women want different things. Some of the studies I've seen show women have much more nuanced tastes, often mutually contradictory, compared to men.
tl;dr A man generally has a type of woman that he wants at a single moment, and will seek her out until his tastes change. A woman has 20 different types of men she wants simultaneously, and is trying to find a single guy with all the qualities.
Which is fucking insane… but hey.
e89aa9 No.54663
>>54646That actually makes a lot of sense too lol
Men are pretty simple, I'll be the first to admit that. Seducing a guy is easier than falling out of a chair. Women do seem to want a variety of things in the same guy. Like the "bad boy" she can dress up and take to the symphony or something
b0176f No.54679
>Why do women never give men honest dating advice?
>honest
You're not given correct advice because women aren't interchangeable, and you keep asking advice from different women than the one you're trying to woo like the goddamn dumbass that you are.
It's not dishonest to treat a child like child.
e0ca7d No.54698
>>54527Not exactly advice or a response to your post, but women that throw themselves at you just for your looks are the shittiest quickfucks that exist, even more so if they hit on you in front of their current couple, never ever go for this shit.
bdb52a No.54703
>>54679>like the goddamn dumbass that you areWhy so mad? I don't have any trouble with women, I don't even need advice, I was just curious.
>>54698>never ever go for this shit.I never do. Although I will admit some personal enjoyment in the attention and stuff. It's surprising how quickly a guy will just go beta and cuck himself.
In those situations I actually tend to ignore the woman and hang out with the guy. Partly because I feel bad for him and partly because it annoys the piss out of the woman lol
be275d No.54773
>>54527What the fuck would women know about dating women? Most of them have never tried it, all they have to go on is their imagination. They're as bad as asking /r9k/ for fucks sake.
f2cb10 No.54777
f2cb10 No.54786
>>54553>Because they get kinda mad when we do. Also, it's not nice to hurt someone's feelings.
>Sure, I could tell a guy 'you need to dress better for a date' or 'stop wearing rapist glasses' but he won't necessarily take my advice, and all it'll do is make him sad.You know…I always thought that it was a stereotype that women were treated like little kids.
But I've known, even before this post, that women are sheltering men to keep them from feeling bad-in a misguided attempt to keep them empowered and strong or some shit I imagine.
This does nothing but create awkward, asocial, unattractive men.
>I think that's for other men to do. His male friends, family members etc. should be able to tell him things like 'yo, you come off as a bit boring when you talk about yourself all the time' or 'you smell bad'.Men (unless gay) aren't attracted to other men, and while some men don't mind gay or bisexual friends, they certainly don't seek them out for help.
Men have men friends for camaraderie.
Why do women have friends? I don't know, but women are constantly criticizing each other among friends if they don't follow the social strata.
Otherwise, they're eventually expunged from the group for 'bringing down' the other women.
Even your advice is wishy washy and banal-no one is going to benefit from your appeal to the multitudes of appeals, attractions, and personalities.
There must be a basis for construction and advice like this builds no base nor acknowledges any fundamentals that spread to all relationships and attractions.
6a6427 No.54929
>>54786>Not knowing women want to wreck your value as a male so no other women will be interested, so that the other women end up alone and miserableNever underestimate the selfishness of women. They would rather drag everyone else down with them, crabs in a bucket.
They hate each other and will go as far as ruining/creating failure-tier males so that other women are miserable and alone.
d4200e No.54939
Man from /int/ stopping by.
>>54527>>54553>Because they get kinda mad when we do. Also, it's not nice to hurt someone's feelings.I don't know, myself I always favoured honesty over flattery, no matter what. When I ask people for opinion on how I performed (regarding whatever), if I don't get any serious criticism, I always ask again and say they don't have to flatter me when I'm looking for advice. And I've noticed that men that I perceive as more masculine tend to give more honest advice.
I've also made a mistake of giving a woman honest advice instead of flattering her once over internet. She was asking what she should do if she wants to attract men. She was slightly overweight (but nothing substantial, so most owuld just brush it off), so I told her she could lose about 10 pounds. She started going how she tried dieting but nothing worked, and refused to take any advice (like not to eat dried fruits in the evening). Even worse, everyone else started attacking me for giving her honest advice instead of telling her she looks good and I don't know why she doesn't attract anyone.
So, I don't know, I always viewed honesty as a masculine trait, and that a real man will always take substantiated constructive criticism as positive and not as an attack on his self-esteem.
>>54604>TheRedPillThey're way too universalist with their approach. One-size-fits-all, when it's obviously not true. Same with PUA culture, it can only give advice on how to pick up the specific easily-impressionable women that are most likely looking for a quick shag themselves. I've tried looking into that stuff when I was younger, but then I found out I can only use that to get the kind of girls I'm not even interested in.
660f39 No.54961
>>54527woman knowing what they want
YEA right ,if you go to a cumdmpster for advice you are dumber than the genius that fucked hundreads of niggers but still lives with their parents(shoe0nhead i am loking at you)
*at least a whore gets paid
38fe76 No.54971
>>54961Boxxy fucked hundreds of niggers? Why?
0d1e58 No.54973
>>54527Because thats advice that would work for you if you were a woman…but your not a woman so it wont work
660f39 No.54974
>>54971google shoe0nhead+coalburner or nigger fucker
the /pol/ tears are hilarious
7ecc25 No.54993
Women are telling you want they want in a long term relationship rather than what will get the initial attraction. They're giving you the most important information for a long-term relationship rather than a hookup.
If you don't mind me asking, if a woman approached you and asked for "dating advice" would you tell her to be neat and friendly and a good cook, or would you tell her to be thin and have big tits?
6df57f No.54995
>>54971>>54974>>54961shoes boyfriend is mulatto, and is 1/4th black. besides, it's irrelevant who or what people date
pretty sure /pol/ is just salty that they've never had a single female interaction in their life, so they disguise their hate of girls with hating other races
ca8a64 No.54998
women dont know what they want and betas acting like betas makes it easier to select for alphas. hence you tell ppl to act like themselves. it is a male thing to want to improve yourself and get more girls than you would get without effort
7ecc25 No.54999
>>54993Another thing to point out is women are generally aware of their attractiveness and they already expect that you'll dress yourself up, fix your hair, and shave, because that's second nature to women. Men tend to not be so self-aware when it comes to attractiveness. Women also have the ability to bring home a guy with little effort regardless of attractiveness while men don't really have this. That might slip the mind of girls that are giving advice because it works for them.
ca8a64 No.55001
>>54995actually pol deeply hates both women and niggers, disgust of women is useally disguised as romantic ideals, ie nice guys
660f39 No.55003
>>54995doing it 4free on a imageboard
talking about social interaction TOP KeK m8 GG no RE
neonazis are a joke but you defending a mudshark is more funny
6df57f No.55008
>>55003>a woman is defined by who she dates or has sex withnice me me :^)
>>55001yes i am aware /pol/ is majority 'nice guys' / beta males
d4200e No.55009
>>55008majority of any board on here is 'nice guys' / beta males so yeah
660f39 No.55014
>>55008I'm so sorry i don't want to SLUTSHAME you or your pure and adorable niggerlover i fell so ashamed for TRIGGERING xer
is about respect hole ,you have to EARN IT ,if not even you respect yourself why the fuck should I?
6df57f No.55015
660f39 No.55018
>>55015after furiously defending m`lady niggerlover for the mean troll
you are adorable ,and put in a corner so fast
660f39 No.55020
>>55015for real stop deflecting ,what wrong wit working hard and respecting yourself,my body is the only one thing I have and can control 100%
of course I gonna mock people how destroy themselves for what? Social approval? Attention from people I will NEVER meet,enjoy the STD and broken bones
shit make this interesting in running circles around you I'm bored
713756 No.55021
>>55014I like when people use the word trigger ironically while they are getting butthurt over something someone else said.
179815 No.55030
>>55008I think they just hate women because they are overly sexist, not because they are Betas.
Yes, they are betas, but this isn't the reason why they hate wymen
d1f274 No.55031
>>55014All this talk about niggerlove
Are you sure you don't like big, juicy, black dicks? You're kinda coming off as a slut tbh ://
660f39 No.55071
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>>55031did somone said BIG BLACK COCKS
*Us white boys should be held down and raped by strong black men! WE DESERVE IT!"
Louis C.K - Cuckold /fem/ addict
4de914 No.55112
>>54527>Why do women never give men honest dating advice?Would you turn to fish for fishing advice?
664c10 No.55117
>>55112That might have been a witty analogy if fish could talk, reason and had an interest in being caught.
1ae29e No.55119
>>55112>would you turn to fish for fishing advice?No, fish don't talk, and if they did they probably wouldn't help me to maim them or kill and eat them. Whereas many women just might enjoy having more charming, dateable, interesting men around.
That said, I would look more ro honest results oriented advice of a man who was very good with women (without being insanely charming or great looking). That's the guy who can tell me not just what women want, but also more importantly how to put my best foot forward and engage with people. Just so long as he's not a charlatan looking to deceive people for a quick buck.
309595 No.55120
>>54553What the fuck are rapist glasses?
Jesus fuck I don't know many men who determine who a man is through the fucking things henuses to help him see.
309595 No.55123
>>54777>a person who is chronically depressed will never be able to attract the opposite sexWell, that's another reason to opt out of life.
1ae29e No.55129
>>54613RedPill has a lot of ranting, assholes, and fairly pigheaded men. They are critical of the norm, and they do sometimes get critical of each other, but they cling to the macho alpha thing because they want to be that. They cling to certain beliefs without definite evidence perhaps because it's what they want to believe and what sticks in their mind as admirable and definite. The successful "beta" guy must be a beta bucks in the redpill world, but they don't truly know.
It was interesting seeing a different take in RedPillWomen where they talked about men who do well dating women despite not being like what RedPill suggests.
>>54939>TheRedPill is far too universalist, a one size fits all approach, when it's obviously not trueYou're right, I would criticize them for that. They're generalizing and they know it. Plus I've noticed that honest reflection can suffer if they're all trying to act like they're all the epitome of something. It doesn't lead to honest results if they all claim they were alpha. It doesn't work if they don't have a control where they try different tacks.
>Same with PUA culture for specific easily impressionable women looking for a quick shagThat makes sense in terms of what PUA are looking for and would be something to watch out for in terms of what advice they're giving. Their advice is mostly going to be specific to their experience looking for a certain result (sex rather than dating) in a certain context (usually clubs, right?).
c8d3bb No.55180
>>55117>>55119Yawn. Let's try this again. Would you turn to fish for advice on catching
other fish?
Dear Canadians, I actually made this mistake once. With a Canadian woman. I was like 13 and she was an online friend I had. I asked her how to show some girl in my class I liked her. I distinctly remember what happened afterwards. I could feel the disappointment and sadness dripping from her replies.
c8d3bb No.55182
>>54939>One-size-fits-all, when it's obviously not trueStop being such a baby. You sound like a butthurt gender studies faggot loudly proclaiming that there are a bunch of exceptions to the rule as if nobody knew. Dismissing the whole thing because of 1 perceived fault that basically only you care about anyway – everyone else is busy using the "generalized" system to try and get some results.
Generalization is how we learn. You'll find it in every academic field you enter. Even biology. Even in feminist "studies". It's efficient. It lets you assume things about stuff and often be right. It saves you thinking. You can memorize the specific cases that don't fit – if they exist, and when they show up.
c8d3bb No.55184
>>55129>The successful "beta" guy must be a beta bucks in the redpill world, but they don't truly know. Beta in whose point of view?
That guy is fairly valuable to society. He has what everyone wants. He may very well not be valuable to women, though. What society wants and what women want are quite different.
I personally knew an ugly-as-sin rich telecom businessman. In a time when landlines were worth
thousands of dollars here, this fucking dude was
king. However, he truly wasn't able to attract
any woman. By that, I mean he wouldn't be able to… If not for his money. He straight up told me this. You can imagine what his ideas of a woman's worth are.
f2cb10 No.55188
>>55123It's hard to be attractive when you're stuck in a frame of mind or situation where you're constantly depressed.
It's not that it won't happen at all, but that it certainly is not something people look for.
Depressed individuals are in a world of their own sometimes-it's difficult not only for them to connect to others while in that world, but also difficult for others to connect to them.
Depression in itself is a difficult thing to deal with and is certainly brushed off by many people far too easily when interacting with depressed individuals.
But to try to have a healthy relationship while clinically depressed is not a good idea-if it happens while in a relationship, you can have someone to lean on and help you through.
But it's taxing on everyone involved-this is why people tend to avoid depressed people.
It's not only a damper on the mood when they're known as 'depressed' all the time, but that it takes an exorbitant amount of investment by everyone involved to approach a solution.
660f39 No.55189
>>55182dammmm
quality post
ad9c9b No.55265
>>54583>I think a lot of the anger guys feel stems from trying so hard to follow advice like "Just be yourself and treat her nicely" and then it doesn't work.And then if and when we do get angry over it, we're instantly labeled an entitled asshole who thinks he deserves sex because he was nice to a girl. It's a losing situation.
240012 No.55274
Read this:
http://www.reddit.com/r/AskWomen/comments/1il8f1/should_i_stop_telling_women_about_me_being_a/Read it all. Very nearly every comment from women is telling him to keep fucking himself over in order to find the "right" girl or a "good" woman, someone who will like him for himself.
Even one of the women offering him remotely sound advice ("you don't need to tell them so don't") tried to gaslight him.
>YOU are the one making it an issue. Not them.It's not a matter of being polite or sparing his feelings. Being harsh on him is okay, as long as it only reflects on him; so calling him a headcase for seeing the obvious is acceptable. And being harsh on the girls he was with is completely acceptable as well, as long as that harshness only applies to those specific girls.
But what's unacceptable is anything which undermines women as a group, which includes identifying and responding to the normal behavior of normal women. Any individual can get thrown under a bus, so long as the reputation of Womankind stands. And Womankind gains more positive status for wanting "good personalities" than it would for wanting "good abs," so, do not mention Chris Pratt's abs, but do mention his comic delivery.
e81af3 No.55279
>>55188I'm not asking for people to come shower me with unconditional love because I look at knives longingly, I just hate being labelled as "unwanted," or "to avoid," because I can't force a smile all the time. It's always my fault for being depressed, or something that I need to fix, and then once I serve my time-out can I have my society privileges back.
It's hard enough knowing that I'm pathetic already. I don't need the whole world to re-tell me that.
b0176f No.55644
>>55182>Stop being such a baby. You sound like a butthurt gender studies faggot loudly proclaiming that there are a bunch of exceptions to the rule as if nobody knew.The subject of the thread is "why women give bad dating advice". We can nut up all we want, but people here are still just insisting that no matter what,
they deserve easy, uniform solutions for their little problem of being irredeemable betas and
unwilling to see the world for the complexity it has. Generalization is how we
start. You fuckers just can't finish what you've started, and now you bitch about it.
f2cb10 No.55650
>>55279You're preaching to the choir.
I've lived with depression for almost half my life. It sucks. But I'm telling you the truth because that's how it works.
>It's always my fault for being depressed, or something that I need to fix, and then once I serve my time-out can I have my society privileges back.You won't get better by ignoring it and not claiming it as something that's your problem.
>It's hard enough knowing that I'm pathetic already. I don't need the whole world to re-tell me that.That's the depression talking.
1c088b No.55676
The only advice I've ever gotten from women that isn't "Be yourself" type of crap is "I want a man to hold me down and ravage me"
Which to me sounds like I'd go to jail if I guessed wrong.
2dc616 No.55709
be275d No.55736
>>55709No, it's wall-e. Where does the rape come from? I'd be much more bothered by the piercings that appear to be meant for a padlock. Keep that shit in the bedroom, dude!
88e14f No.55756
They don't give useful dating advice so they can weed out the timewasters and the liars.
b0df21 No.55794
>>55756This. They want natural alphas. How can you be natural if you have to ask?
f2cb10 No.55800
>>55794>Falling back on natural instinct rather than attempting to solve the problem.Amazing.
4069c8 No.55852
>>55001>/pol/>hatred of women>disguisedNow you're just resorting to beta male stereotypes. "nice guys" don't actually exist, they're a concept invented by tumblrinas because associating "guy" with the word "nice" confuses and frightens them. A male being nice? It must be a plot to oppress women!
f2cb10 No.55854
>>55001>mfw>>55008>>a woman is defined by who she dates or has sex withShe's not, but it's a good indicator.
0b7e43 No.55940
>>54527There are two reasons, one that was pointed out, men have fragile ego's and can't handle the truth. Just ask Jack Nicholson
The second is that women lie to themselves and everyone else about what they want.
7333fc No.55977
>>54527Elliot Rodger please leave
1c088b No.56008
Every man has a voice in there head. This voice is always there in the back of your head screaming "STICK IT IN STICK IT IN STICK IT IN STICK IT IN STICK IT IN STICK IT IN STICK IT IN STICK IT IN STICK IT IN STICK IT IN"
Women also have a voice. It's the voice that tells them to gyrate at that buff guy who can give them lots of fresh mammoth meat and a big cave.
Most women want a nice guy they can who can be their gay friend, but that voice drives them to the alpha jock.
It's kinda like how men wanna date themselves with tits and a vagina. Women want to date themselves with a dick.
2e7e16 No.56118
>>54527>It's always "The right girl will like you for YOU." Which is nice but, once again, doesn't help a guy who has pretty much run out of ideas.They give advice like you're a woman.
What's good relationship advice from a woman to another woman? It's "be yourself" and "they'll like you for being you!"
That's true if you're a woman and you have guys chasing after you. You can literally flop down and settle if worst comes to worst. All the female advice given to guys makes perfect sense in this context. They don't look at it - and obviously cannot understand it - from the man's perspective.
4dcdd1 No.56129
>>56008Yeah that voice quiets down a lot around your mid twenties
078f00 No.56189
The only woman who's given an honest opinion on my appearance or social interactions is my sister. She won't miss a chance to let me know I dress like shit or I'm making a situation awkward or doing something inappropriate with my friends.
9d09fc No.56226
Would this sort of body be attractive to a woman?
1c088b No.56227
>>56129More like you get better at ignoring it.
1c088b No.56229
>>56189There's a difference between someone telling you what women hate and telling you what makes them wet. Both can be helpful, but I doubt your sister tells you the latter.
1c088b No.56230
9d09fc No.56247
>>56230I'm trying but I have a tiny build so my muscle still appears small.
1c088b No.56254
15b391 No.56258
98bb82 No.56293
>>56226It would be attractive as a woman.
What's with the puffy nipples?
Your breast are starting to bud?
1c088b No.56295
>>56293Hormone therapy is a slow process, I haer.
8a7c0d No.56328
>>55274Dude needs to Red Pill himself. "Ask women" is just such a crazy notion, I can't believe people actually think they can do that and get good results.
If you're some sheltered kid and you find out the truth about women, you become a misogynist for a while. You might not even get past that stage.
64dbe8 No.56331
>>55274>>YOU are the one making it an issue. Not them.That comment is actually right. It reflects badly on him. Why the fuck would he mention it? It's as if a salesman casually mentioned to you that the car he's trying to sell is known for poor performance or hasn't been tested at all. Illogical.
Dude should hold himself responsible for that shit. That's when he realizes he has the power to change the situation. Figure out how to fix it, and then do it. Solution is simple enough: shut the fuck up. Understand and apply it
411692 No.56333
>>56331Some people don't see sex as a ride around the block.
Some people want a more intimate experience.
Shitting on people that want to make something special of the things they do…are women always like this? I assume they aren't because women do the same thing. Even a few in that reddit thread-or whatever it is-say the same thing happens to them when they mention they're a virgin.
It's because the people that turn someone down when they say they're a virgin don't care about them. They care about their body and the things they're going to do to and with it.
Being so fucking shallow like that, how do people like you cope with being fucking assholes?
64dbe8 No.56335
>>56333Telling women he's a virgin isn't really going to give him a 'more intimate' experience, whatever that shit is. It's just gonna reduce his own value. He willingly emasculates himself in front of women who don't care about his little problems. Can you really not see what's wrong with that?
What a nice 'intimate experience' he's having. Doesn't even have sex in it, and it ended the moment he showed weakness. That's a whole new level of depth if I ever seen one.
>are women always like this?You should count on it. Better to be surprised than be fucked over. But the thing is: you don't actually want to find out. Don't take chances. People open themselves up to attack and criticism on their own accord. Don't give anyone that opportunity.
>how do people like you cope with being fucking assholes?Simple. I define what it is that I want. I define what I need to do to get it. I weigh the costs. If it doesn't work I change the approach until it does.
411692 No.56339
>>56335>It's just gonna reduce his own value. He willingly emasculates himself in front of women who don't care about his little problems.Wow you're a bitch. Are you looking for sex? That's fine. Other people aren't looking just for sex and don't see sex as the purely physical.
This 'value' bullshit is fucking enraging to say the least. You don't assign 'value' to people you fucking twat.
8ddbd9 No.56341
>>56339>Other people aren't looking just for sex and don't see sex as the purely physical.So fucking what
>You don't assign 'value' to people you fucking twat.I do it on a daily basis.
411692 No.56363
>>56341Nothing. Just means you're a piece of shit.
411692 No.56365
>>56341>>56363Nevermind, this dumb shit wasn't looking for a relationship either.
Just a fuck.
240012 No.56367
>>56365> None of those girls were, at least I didn't think they were, I went out on several dates with each of them.
>the latter two of the three I posted about made it expressly clear they weren't looking for a casual hookup so… yeah. The first, yeah looking back she only wanted to hook up but whatever, live and learn.Nope. Relationship. Definitely not looking for marriage, but not a pump and dump thing either.
9d09fc No.56371
>>56293It's summer here and they tend to do that when it's hot, or at least mine do.
4436f3 No.56374
>>54553>I think that's for other men to do. Alright I'm gonna go straight up and reply to that, since nobody did and it's really bothering me that I'm the only one who's pointing this.
Asking a guy for advices with girls is useless pretty much. Oh sure the big thug dickhead with 10 fuckfriends can give you some tricks to woo an easy girl, but that's not the interest here if you would go ask a girl for advices, you're not looking for a whore obviously.
The fact is, men and women think and act differently, not only because they're different human beings. Unlike what the medias try to push on us, there's a large "base" difference between men and women solely based on their hormones (also different sexes bring different life experiences and situations from the start).
I'd understand why a guy would go to a girl for dating advices, even though I wouldn't personnally. (Even though my body time more ressemble OP's left picture than right, except with more hairs (I've been compared to a bear way too often), I've come to the conclusion that I don't need to go out of my way with women anyway because apparently, my 2m04 (6'8"-6'9") bear-shaped person fit some women's tastes ).
Still, it's only natural that a man would ask a woman more than a guy, but since women also think on a different spectrum than men, they won't give the kind of advices that men expect anyway.
tl;dr: This whole thread is pointless.
411692 No.56378
>>56367>Yeah, I don't really get lonely since I haven't had any romantic relations in 23 years, so at the time I wasn't really looking for anything, those three just kind of fell into my lap because they were cool people. I agree that it was odd, I'm chalking it up to three outliers, I don't really see much of what I could have done differently aside from just keep my mouth shut.
>Cheers to hopefully getting laid lol 1c088b No.56445
>>56374You don't ask the tiger how best to hunt tigers.
Asking a man who knows more than you in the field you're interested in, whether it be for hook ups or a relationship, will generally yield better results than asking a woman with either 0 experience picking up other women or is just giving you what she wants (or thinks she wants (or is lying to you that she wants)).
You ask 10 women how to date women you'll get 10 really different answers. You ask 10 guys who've dated lots of women and your answers are gonna be really similar.