/fem/ - Female

Some bodyshop stuff is great. I love their moisturising creams (great smell, few irritants, reasonable price). Their peppermint foot spray thing is cute too, oh and the facial washes work well enough.

The makeup tends to be a bit shit though. Not worth it for the makeup.

>>56358
Never heard about either of these shops, anon, had to check them out. Both of these are murrican shops though, so I only found their stuff on amazon
>>56368
I don't really do make up, so that's something I won't have to deal with. They do have some nice-looking lip balms though

Soap is bad for your skin, but are exfoliating scrubs a scam? I notice a lot of scam shit like cheap lotions that leave a film residue to give the illusion of softer skin.

>>56453
no, exfoliating scrubs aren't a scam, but there's no need for them to be pricy– they're the same basic stuff.

you're right that cheap lotions contain things that just make it see like the skin is beingmoisturized. these are usually heavy on silicones and the like, look for ingredients that are humectants… lotion is pretty basic though, there's not a huge difference in terms of ingredients between a low end and high end one (except random things like plant extracts and stuff) but formulation is a big deal.

>>56453
All cosmetics are a scam. The best way to look good is to focus on your diet and get plenty of sunlight.

That's not to say there aren't genuinely good plants and minerals that have beneficial effects on your skin when applied topically.

>get plenty of sunlight

sunlight is good for you in a lot of ways, uv rays are antibacterial and can help with acne, but they can be hit or miss with skin tone: tans can really make a person look great, but on some they can just highlight skin tone problems and acne scars.

sun is also the absolute worst thing for aging…which is a concern for many women, since unfortunately we do not really age well, unlike men.

>>56456
You won't have acne if you adjust your diet as it is your body just trying to remove toxins through the excretory organ available to it. (Most common things that trigger it appear to be dairy and wheat from what I've found.)

Eating shit and being unhealthy is the worst thing for aging not sunlight which we have, quite literally, evolved to co-exist with. I don't advocate excessive tanning (Which will damage your skin) just spend some time in the sun. (The time spent and at what time you should go into the sun is gonna depend on time of the year and your ancestry compared to where you are currently located. Sucks to be white here.)

>>56457
I don't have acne and I didn't even mention diet… there are very weak medical links that verify that diet causes acne. Some correlation? Sure.

that said, I eat a healthy diet consisting of lots of fresh vegetables and fruit, i'm active, and I don't have acne… currently.

You're forgetting about a main cause of acne: hormones. This is beyond the control of a lot of people. My doctor put me on a high androgen bc pill and I broke out like crazy. It's fixed now, of course, but hormones play a HUGE role in acne.

I wasn't really talking about acne anyway, I was talking about more long term effects on the skin such as wrinkles, collagen loss, etc. which excessive sunlight will actually do more than just an unhealthy lifestyle. There are fat women who sit inside all day eating chips and have great skin.

Which brings in another factor, which little can be done about: genes.

You're right that unfortunately here it's hard to get the right amount of sun- it easily becomes excessive. There's a reason that people say 'the average Australian goes from 17 to 35'

>>56459
>Acne and diet
Oh, I didn't realise that this is another fact the allopathic industry lies about to sell their drugs. (Seems to be sugars and other foods with a high GI, too.) I didn't mean to imply that you had it, just bad wording on my part.
>http://www.gutpathogens.com/content/3/1/1
>http://www.andjrnl.org/article/S2212-2672%2812%2901923-5/abstract
>http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/06/16/food-causing-acne.aspx
Ask yourself why our multi-billion dollar medical industry that makes money off of sickness and disease (Including acne drugs) would lie to you about proper health.

>On hormones
Diet dictates how well your body works and the quantity of hormones it produces.
>http://informahealthcare.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00365519009085798
>http://jap.physiology.org/content/76/2/839.short

>On supplemented hormones
>https://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/whi/estro_pro.htm (The summaries 404 but the links under actually work)

>Genes
Gluten, dairy and high GI foods are something that is relatively common in certain parts of the world and others haven't had it for as long. I'd argue that genes come into it by giving some a slight tolerance to the detrimental effects of certain foods.

>On skin and looks
>tfw I can only find blogs

>>56455
>All cosmetics are a scam. The best way to look good is to focus on your diet and get plenty of sunlight.
>get plenty of sunlight.

Yeah, no.

>>56474
>Implying humans haven't evolved with radiation from our sun
lel

>>56475
>but I think most of us are aware on how diet affects hormones, supplementing hormones and genes
I don't give a shit about what you have to say about this, as you weren't the person I was talking to.

>if you want to shitpost, that's not cool.
>Me talking about the reality of our world is shit-posting
lel

>Why are you using this as an instance to soapbox about something we are also very aware of (that cosmetics are overpriced and overprocessed)?
Because no-body else mentioned it and you don't need to resort to cosmetics to look good. Also it's pointless once you realise that skin is a pretty damn good reflection of internal health and that taking care of that will reflect on your external appearances.

>I like the strong smells bodyshop has, and at 10 quid a pop, I have enough cream to last me more than a year.
That's nice and all but as I've been trying to say, you don't need it if you're healthy.

>Switzerland
Coincidence/10.

In the time I've been away, I've had a a man from there tell me about how his wife of 21 years left him cause he got cancer despite the family that they started and the relationship they had.

Fucking lol

>>56495
>A bit cold, sure, but I don't think most would leave their spouse due to cancer.
After 21 years and 2 children, he didn't think that either. If you had actually read my post I said it is a "coincidence".

>Using sunscreen
It's like you are completely ignorant of the ingredients used in it.

>>56536
I have a friend that swears by it, never tried it myself though.

Does it smell like pot?

>>56514
I've actually yet to use hand creams, so far I only use almond oil because my cuticles are terrible
>>56531
the coal face one sounds interesting, I'll look it up, thanks

Are you mad I haven't been online and engaging with you? I wasn't online because I was doing other things for you.