/fem/ - Female

In special cases like rape, incest, mother's life is in danger, kid is confirmed retarded, etc, yes abortion is fine. But running around fucking a million dudes and getting knocked up in the process is not an excuse to snuff out a life. Be more responsible.


Unless of course the woman is black or muslim or w/e in which I'd advocate for government subsidized free abortions.

>>56630
mandatory?

At adulthood, all human females should have their eggs removed and frozen. About 50% of these eggs should be made available for impregnation, these being eggs harvested from the most intelligent and athletic women. The rest should be destroyed. Impregnation should be a matter of retrieving sperm from compatible donors. Neither males nor females will be informed of whether their gametes are intended for reproduction or destruction, and by sustaining reasonable doubt about the maternity of the children in their country they maintain a certain level of investment in society, just as evolutionary biology teaches us that women sleeping around in primitive societies maintained a certain level of social cohesion by creating reasonable doubt about paternity so males would be willing to consider each child as potentially his own. In this manner, unplanned pregnancies will be a thing of the past, and genetic defects will be minimized, while all women get the privilege of raising the offspring of women superior to themselves. Sex becoming completely unrelated to offspring will also have the promise of total sexual liberty.

yes in cases with a medical necessity.

maybe for more "natural" forms of miscarriage, such as going horse riding or boxing lol.

maybe for in cases of rape.

no for using it as a form of birth control because you cant afford a free condom.

>>56641
>The rest should be destroyed.
way to waste a resource, at least make an omelet or something.

>>56641
NO NO NO NO NO

Only for blacks.

Mandatory unless the woman should be producing (good genes, offers stable family, has resources, etc.)

Should only be available to pickers of cotton.

We should only abort white male fetuses and black female fetuses.

Black male fetuses can simply be injected with ethanol to lower their intellect to below that of a dog, and make them sex toys for the White Female Superemacy.

>>56859
You'd just be making human-sized monkeys. Nah, best feminist society would be to replicate Amazonian reproduction tactics. Men can have their own societies, albeit smaller, weaker societies with women at the top of them all, and take the premium specimens for snoo-snoo. Afterwards they would be beheaded on video and paraded as martyrs for their male peers to look up to and aspire to be good enough to sacrificed.

>>56859
You might save a little on ethanol by using blacks, but you'd have to spend easily as much on dampening the stink.

Besides, how is that going to work out for more than a generation? All joking about feminine penises aside.

>>56923
Their body is in my body and affects the rest of my entire life. If you produce a child and put it up for adoption, you aren't taking responsibility for the life you produced and you're a shitty person for bringing them into the world with no intention of being there.

I do not want children for many reasons. If I found out I was pregnant and abortion was not an option (illegal and expensive) I would stop eating until it aborted itself.

If a fetus cannot survive outside of the mother's body, it's entirely the mother's call on whether that life continues. You call yourself a feminist and yet defend a chunk of flesh that has the potential to be a person before the freedoms of someone who already is a person. You aren't a feminist. You're an idealist and an asshole.

There shouldn't be an age limit on it.

http://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2012/03/01/medethics-2011-100411.full

>>56925
>If a fetus cannot survive outside of the mother's body, it's entirely the mother's call on whether that life continues. You call yourself a feminist and yet defend a chunk of flesh that has the potential to be a person before the freedoms of someone who already is a person.
How did it get there in the first place? You can't force someone to become dependent on you for their survival, then cut them off and pretend you had nothing to do with them dying.
That said, I don't think there's anything much wrong with having them snuffed out before the third month, since before that they haven't started thinking.

It should blow your mind how easily women take to abortion. The other day my cousin called my gf to get an abortion and it came easier to plan for them then it is for me to plan a game night with my friends. Like it blew my fucking mind. I played it off though and I asked my gf why my cousin called her and she says it was because she also helped my older cousin (the older sister of the one wanting the abortion now) get one. Holy fucking shit.

I'm starting to think something like 9 out of 10 women had abortions. I'm serious when I'm saying I'm either going full homo soon or waiting for sex robots in a divine seclusion of porn and Guiness world book fappage sessions. You just can't trust women, you broads are fucking evil.

For the guys reading this, think about it bros, the women reading this won't get
>oooh maybe I shouldn't kill babies
out of this, but instead
>oooh I need to lie about killing babies better

>>56944
It worked for the spartans (fiction or not). Were I unwanted by my birth parents, I'd consider it a mercy to be offed before I was able to form memories.

>>56944
Once it's born, obviously it's a person and that would be murder. Before that however, if it cannot exist outside of another person, it does not count as a viable person.

Getting an abortion when you don't want a child is better than having a child you don't want. It is directly taking responsibility for the actions of your anatomy, which you can't have 100% control over unless you get sterilized. If you want people to take responsibility, attack the system that allows parents to abandon alive children because they can't be bothered to take care of the lives they are the direct cause of creating and bum them off onto the state/other people.

My mother had 4 miscarriages in between of viable births. If they had been abortions, the only difference would be the path by which those hunks of flesh were terminated.

>the fetus is a new human with all the rights (life, liberty, property) inherent as soon as the zygote is formed

I disagree. We can hash out the specifics of when a fetus gains consciousness, when it can recognize a parent's voice, when it can move, when the egg splits, whatever. The cutoff that I accept is when a fetus can be removed from the mother's body, not die, and grow. Past that point, I think the person needs to take responsibility for that fetus by raising it. Before that, I believe it's the woman's choice.

If my parents hadn't wanted me, I support their ability to have chosen to terminate.

>>56944
Just to note "assistance" as in feeding and changing diapers is not the same as "assistance" as in an artificial uterus or life support system.

reminder that abortion is illegal to perform after the point of development where the fetus can experience pain and cognition

>>57105
But why? Why is the line when it is able to survive outside of the body? I don't get that one, honestly it seems really arbitrary. Just because it can't keep itself alive, doesn't mean it doesn't have a right no life. If it was born without functioning lungs would you kill it instead of putting it on a mechanical lung because it can't survive without you anyways?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

living, breathing babies dying don't bother me. why would fetuses?

ayy lmao

>>56925
I'd try to starve/otherwise kill the baby too, of that was the only way to get rid of it.

If someone needed your kidney to live, no one would force you to give that person your kidney even if it meant you were effectively killing that other person.

Also I consider abortion to be killing another person, however I just have a utilitarian view and I think killing people is sometimes justified. For example killing one to save several, or killing a baby in the womb so that when the mother chooses she is in a financial position where she is able to have many more kids and bring them into a loving home and in much better circumstances.

I don't see the point in forcing this child into the world where it will be adopted if it's lucky (still not always a good outcome), otherwise abandoned, unloved, or killed in another way.