No.382
So is this /fgg/'s new home then?
Marvel thread cause there wasn't one. I know most of you hate this game, but I love it and wanna talk about it.
No.387
>>382just marvel 3? no 2?
No.388
>>387I don't see why not, but I don't know shit about it. I guess next time whoever makes the thread(assuming it's not me) can just call it the "Cross over" thread.
No.392
>>388are you going to TFC?
No.396
>>392No, I wish. Jan will be going, though. Right now it looks like I'll be at Absolute Battle and maybe NEC.
No.405
>>396Dang that sucks. The starts magically alligned for me to be able to go to TFC. It'll be my first out of state tournament so I'm pretty excited.
No.490
>>387I'll talk about mvc2, who do you play?
No.512
If I want to get into marvel 3 how should I start
No.516
It's been 3 years. I think it's about time I drop Trish.
No.517
>>512Pick a character you like then fill the rest of the team with top tier that helps your desired character.
No.518
>>517what if I like Tron Bonne
No.521
>>518tron/frank/Someone that helps get longer comobos and is a good anchor.
The problem with getting into marvel now is that the only people who still play it are generally very good.
No.522
>>518Tron isn't anywhere near the best, but she has some scrubby shit and a lot of BNB's drop on her. Give her a good assist and a good DHC and she can kill anyone, even off of throw.
No.524
>>518I don't know too much about Tron specifically but a horizontal assist like a projectile or beam can help her get in.
She has damage in spades so that isn't one of her problems. She probably doesn't need a specific assist to extend combos but a strong DHC would probably help a lot.
Her assist aren't so strong any more so you'll probably want to play her on point.
One thing to your advantage with strong though is that she has one of the highest health in the game and a lot of peoples optimal bnbs will not work on her.
No.527
>>521>someoneuhhh hulk good? Sent?
>>522I am just picking who I like for now. thanks for the info!
No.529
>>527I think a team of Tron/Hulk/Sent could work. It wouldn't be the best team ever, but Hulk gamma wave assist seems like it could be useful, and if you properly call it, sent drones can really work well with tron (as well as being one of Hulk's best assists)
No.530
>>529Thanks, I'll try it out. Now that I have my team so far how do I play
No.531
>>527Hulk can be good because he makes you play the match up. Sent has an amazing assist but is kind of average but he has all the needed tool.
No.532
>>527To find that someone you'll need to go and see who can help her get longer combos. That big body team could work though, espcially if you can do robot marchxxrock super for extra damage
No.535
how is the netcode in umvc3 on ps3/360? my friend says this game is unplayable online
No.537
>>535It seems really inconsistent IMO. I've been able to have some great smooth games and then I get games that lag so much that the whole thing last over 10 minutes.
No.538
>>535sometimes good sometimes awful.
why doesnt capcom just use ggpo?
No.544
>>538GGPO doesn't work well with 3d models. And IMO UMVC3 netplay is god awful
No.547
>>529Actually I believe I've seen a Tron/Hulk team that uses gamma wave to both extend Tron combos with the org and as a neutral assist.
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No.574
>>387the old man games thread includes marvel 2
No.576
I've been trying to tier whore like Morri/Dorm/Doom. I'm lacking a get back like Vergil or Akuma assist though.
No.580
>>574oh I thought it was just GGPO games
No.581
>>580nah i specifically said mvc2 and cvs2
No.644
>>576both morrigan and dorm need meter, I'm not sure how you run the team but im theory crafting that you could pull off a cheap loop by dhcing into dorm ball then locking them in blockstun with missles long enough to call morrigan and build spells and rain down meteors + call missles then ball again. you could prob pull it off with the amount of meter you would be gaining from meteors + missles + morrigan assist to setup some serious chip game. Though if morri dies and dorm comes in with no meter it can be tough, but dorm/doom shell is proven very capable. Though if you want the team to focus more on morrigan you could replace dorm with dante or magneto or vergil
No.649
>>644I actually have a few set ups where I tac morri into dorm then dhc back into astral.
Originally I wanted to make a team around morri but I find myself enjoying dorm more.
No.656
people that play marvel 3. how do you justify TAC infinites and X factor to keep playing?
No.670
>>656TACs are stupid and everyone said so when the game released. Infinites are not such a problem in a game with one touch kills anyway.
At this point xf is just part of the games character. Any one decent though shouldn't be losing to xf3 when up 3 character with the exception of vergil and dark phoenix.
No.710
>>649but is it possible to make a near infinite chip loop using the ball + missles + meteors + morrigan meter assist + pillars?
No.779
>>710Probably if you can do the tight fireball patterns like chrisg but most morrigan players can't do that.
No.786
>>779not with morri but dhcing into dormammu ball from morrigan uppercut or something then running her meter assist
kinda unrelated but heres broken morrigan tech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebbJa0aSfZU&list=UUPvA7_bu9YdY7zAQj6vv2hw No.801
>>786>one hit death comboi dont get marvel
No.807
>>710You can depending on the character you facing and their ability to get in on dorm.
No.808
>>801You get 3 characters. You usually wont get a clean hit like that and have both assist available though.
No.820
>>8013 characters
3 chances
No.823
>>820what do you mean 3 stances
No.846
>>823you could potentially kill all 3 of his characters with 1 of yours
you have 3 characters
depending on what you play you could get more than 3 but in the absolute worst case scenario you still get a minimum of 3 chances to play
sf4 evolved into a game where getting hit once or twice could potentially be your death, so this game isn't all that far apart, the damage is higher but you get 3 characters.
No.848
>>846oh you said chances. not stances
No.851
i'd play this game if only strider could still trap like 1 and 2
No.856
>>851A good strider is still a huge pain in the ass.
No.857
>>851strider's not that bad in 3
No.860
>>857>>856it's not about him being bad he just feels too different to me without being able to lockdown with orbs. feels like a different character
No.862
>>860I really don't get why orbs is a level 3 and Vergil swords is a level 1. Swords even has like 50 high durability.
No.863
>>860well marvel 3 is a vastly different game. it's like it skipped a game or two like it's marvel 5
No.866
>>862i mean i kinda see why, orbs is pretty abusive and being able to build meter and chip while you do it is pretty insane
but at the same time it was really fun and somewhat balanced by needing meter and being super low health
No.869
>>851strider is an amazing character in 3 but pretty difficult to play and orbs can't really be compared to its mvc 1 and 2 forms
vergil is more like mvc2 strider than anything because of his swords
clock plays doom vergil strider in marvel 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPDLnRiZa_w No.872
>tfw you cant get umvc3 dlc anymore
No.873
>>869i watched some of those clock videos he still does some sick stuff with strider
No.881
>>872Only thing I don't have in umvc3 is the heroes and heralds colours.
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No.886
>>873yea hes cool, I actually run his team when I play
No.889
>>885Just more colors I guess.
No.898
>>886yeah clock is the reason i started playing mvc2 just seeing the way he played strider/doom
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No.920
>>918why would anyone buy it?
No.921
>>920It's free. You just need to earn it with that stupid H&H mode that no one plays.
No.923
>>921oh so you just have to unlock it. I thought you had to buy that shit
No.938
Can you even still download H&H?
No.939
>>938no. all of it is gone. g-o-n
No.1627
Orlando Marvel tourney starting at twitch.tv/yaysian
No.1653
So why did everyone drop Taskmaster?
No.1655
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>>1653I can't think of one person that uses task master. love his theme though
No.1681
>>1653honestly I like playing task but he gets shit on pretty bad by the top tiers and he doesn't get much off his grabs and air grabs
and his zoning ability is pretty poor I mean he has to charge up his arrow and release them and he's completely vulnerable until he hits the ground if he does them in the air and the damage is not the best when you could magneto and spam an 8 frame fullscreen disruptor instead
and his ability to open people up is really poor all he can really do is go low or grab, and shield skills protects his upperbody but the lower body is completely exposed and will lose to people mashing lows
and then his high health is mostly irrelevant with how strong peoples bnbs are now
and his assist is pretty slow and easy to avoid
No.3389
>>544>GGPO doesn't work well with 3d models. And IMO UMVC3 netplay is god awfulIs that true?
No.3390
No.3391
>>3389The ggpo not working with 3d models thing is a bullshit lie.
Dragon Ball: Zenkai Battle Royale (2011) used it
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GGPO No.3393
>>3391I assumed he was just talking about marvel 3 netcode
No.3396
>>3393Nope, I was talking about GGPO with 3D.
No.3397
>>3396oh yeah ggpo works just fine with 3D models. KI has amazing netcode and it's a rollback netcode like ggpo.
No.5973
Rather than make a new thread I guess I'll post here.
Let's discuss trying to fix UMVC3. My main propositions are eliminating TACs altogether, and x-factor can only be used when you're on your last character; x-factor effects are those of lvl1 x factor. thoughts?
Also, roster changes, like replacing she-hulk with some character people actually care about?
No.5980
>>5973
Theres too much to even mention.
Everything felt wrong about that game. The best way to fix MVC3 is to turn it back to what it was originally. TVC.
No.5981
>>5973
>eleminating TACs
>get rid of X-factor
You missed the return of the double snap
Nobody wants to fix Marvel. If you touch a single thing in the core, this is no more UMVC3. And since we'll never have a MVC4, that's all we got.
Nobody talks about fixing MVC2, right? He's still WAY more broken than Mahvel 3.
>>5980
Bullshit. TVC is an airdasher, more than a Marvel-like Versus game.
>>5973
>Also, roster changes, like replacing she-hulk with some character people actually care about?
OK, THAT'S ENOUGH.
No.5983
>>5980
tvc looks pretty slow imo. but i havent played it so whatever.
>>5981
TACs are retarded.
and i didnt say get rid of x-factor, just leave it for use on the last character. i hate seeing early x-factor to kill the first character and then mix up the incoming two. i hate seeing x-factor cancel to make a move safe early on in the round.
As for she-culck, she is aesthetically atrocious, a bore to watch and play, and irrelevant.
No.5986
>>5983
>i didnt say get rid of x-factor
You missed the point. I say "you missed the return of double snap", because you only say that MVC3 special mechanics are bad. If you get rid of XF and TAC, that's basically MVC2 with 3D graphics. If you really want a new MVC2, play Skullgirls.
We can't talk objectivly about roster. UMVC3 is the best roster in ever Versus game. It's a shame we always saw the same Darkstalkers characters, but the Marvel side is genious.
And Jen is still more relevant than Rogue, Spiral, Marrow or a bunch of Marvel characters, back in MVC2.
UMVC3 is great guys. And we'll still playing this shit during 10 years or more.
No.5994
>>5973
X factor is fine as it is now. In most cases aside vergil, xf3 3 character comebacks have become pretty rare. TACs are stupid and I can think of no way to improve them but remove them.
>>5986
Jen became complete garbage after the ultimate nerfs.
I don't think it's going to last 10 more years. My locals have pretty much stopped playing umvc3. Most people only play it at tournaments and you can tell because they're all sloppy as shit. Even the big american tournaments everything but even top 8s seems like people haven't been practising.
No.5996
>>5994
right. i think justin wong doesnt even practice it anymore and still wins every tourney. now im starting to think that the fighting game dryspell was what kept mvc2 alive for so long
No.5999
>>5996
Yeah watching people drop their basic bnbs is a bit frustrating. One of the most frustrating things those is people playing match ups badly. Like going in on Hulk off the bat like so many people do with KBR. Fuck Magneto Trish should be like 9-1 but people try to rush her and do magnetic blast when all they have to do is super jump and disrupter to stop her from setting up traps or any thing. I'm fucking sick of Kbrad getting these wins because people play stupid.
No.6000
>>5999
>people playing stupid against top players
top player privilege is too stronk.
as long as noel brown doesnt win a tourney i'll keep watching marvel. the only tourney he won was the one where justin colluded with him.
No.6001
I miss when wesker was a real contender in this game.
No.6002
>>6001
oh the days when people were complaining about level 3 x factor wesker ("dark wesker").
No.6003
>>6001
He made Top 4 at Combo Breaker. He's still a threat.
No.6183
Guys I really want to get into this game, but I have a problem. I really want to play Jill, and that's a problem for obvious reasons. What are my options? Can I download through someone else's account, or would that force me to have to use their account? can I still get a code or have they all expired?
No.6184
Daily reminder that you cannot defeat the Super Skrull
No.6187
>>6183
I have the dlc and I don't even play this game. poor anon. maybe you can find some one who has it and buy/borrow/"borrow" their hard drive.
>>6184
hell naw i cant. i cant block that damn tereporto
No.6903
Man I am so glad I started playing Marvel. Seriously on of the most fun games ive ever played.
Loving Magneto/Akuma/Ammy
No.7923
>>7898
Fchamp is a dick.
We need a new game.
No.7939
>tfw the moment doom starts foot diving all your options are just gone
what a great move