No.1077
Is there really enough traffic to justify seperate /tv/ and /film/ boards?
Shouldn't we get back together?
No.1078
I would rather have quality discussion with a couple posts a day rather than /b/ shitposting.
No.1079
>>1078This
/tv/'s (both 4chan and 8chan) a shithole full of waifu-autists, baneposters and other shit spam
No.1080
But what about actual discussion about quality television?
It's supposed to be a golden age of televsion drama for goodness sake.
No.1081
>>1080I think this has been discussed in two threads already.
No.1085
>>1080You want to discuss Berlin Alexanderplatz? The Singing Detective? I, Claudius? Fanny & Alexander? The Kingdom? Mysteries of Lisbon?
That's what its going to take on this board! no less!
No.1086
>>1085The idea that these shows are somehow more sophisticated than Mad Men isn't predicated on actual merit, but rather on the notion that American entertainment cannot be sophisticated.
No.1087
Yes, television is broad enough to get its own board, specially since the way it's consumed differs from cinema greatly, no matter the content subject.
Don't delude yourselves thinking this board has to be more «sophisticated» by default since you're hellbent on discussing arthouse cinema and you don't want to "mix" with those "horrible" baneposters. Just be honest with yourselves.
No.1099
>>1085I would love to discuss these shows with somebody, but nobody ever heard about them on /tv/, and /film/ hates everything that's not film with a passion.
No.1103
>>1099>>1085Except most of these television miniseries are usually categorized as films and included as such in all sorts of movie related lists or rankings. I doubt anybody would care if you were to make a thread about Berlin Alexanderplatz here.
No.1122
>>1086…then I guess you're not familiar with the term 'auteur', pleb-lord.
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No.1145
No since most of us want to talk about film not "le epic bane shitposting xdddd 4U!1!1!"
No.1146
/film/ is the /lit/ of movies, /tv/ is the /s4s/ of movies.
True it would be nice to talk about more artistic TV shows, but people who tend to go on /tv/ will not know or care for them, film would be the logical next place but the admin made it for film only, leaving a gap for people who want to talk about smart TV shows, but that gap is too small to make a bored, it would be like me making a bored for feet fetish, yeah some people want to talk about it but not enough.
No.1149
>>1146So my idea for a sophisticated television show foot fetish board isn't going to take off?
No.1150
>>1146>yeah some people want to talk about it but not enough.…b-but it's already called '/tv/'.
No.1187
Bump
No.1191
>>1087>you don't want to "mix" with those "horrible" banepostersI get the feeling this was comment in particular was directed at my post(
>>1079 ) so I'll explain myself
I don't agree that this board should only be for "high brow" arthouse films, no. I think this board should contain discussion of all films, whether they're ``sophisticated'' art films, or cringe-worthy B-movies.
What I completely disliked about /tv/, is that you could not get a good film discussion thread going because there would be 10 celebrity threads, 10 bane threads, 10 waifu threads going at the same time. I'm not creating some sort divide between "us and them" because I think we're "more intelligent" or w/e, I'm just sick of the lack of discussion.
You and I both know most of the populace of /tv/ (both 4chan and 8chan) are underrage b&, and expected good conversation from them is just futile.
In conclusion: /tv/ is cancer. If you don't agree then do this for me:
1. go on /tv/ (4chan and 8chan)
2. screenshot the catalogue
3. open mspaint or w/e image editing software you have
4. circle the good threads (good threads as in good discussion without inane, and repetitive maymays being forced and spouted every 5 posts)
5. post results here
I guarantee you won't have circled more than 5 threads.
No.1197
>>1191>I think this board should contain discussion of all filmsThe board is called 'film', not 'movies'…
If we discuss b-movies, it's going to be patrician b-movies…you want to discuss asylum-tier shit: Go Away.
No.1198
>>1197>If we discuss b-movies, it's going to be patrician b-moviesSure thing
We even have B-movies thread going right now
>>1011 No.1206
>>1198>galax>not ultra patrician tier of moviemakingget real
But anyway, as for mainstream movies, I don't really care whether they are being discussed here as long as generals about latest super hero movies don't drown out all other film discussion.
As for tv shows, they should definitely stay on /tv/, as for tv series, it's a bit of an arbitrary rule, if you can find them on film related lists, or websites like mubi or letterpleb, they are definitely fine.
No.1214
>>1191I'm definitely not saying it'd be better to try and have any sort of discussion on /tv/ simply because it's a bigger board and whatnot, that would be ridiculous. What I'm arguing against is this sort of mentality
>>1197, which is carried precisely from /tv/ and shows a lack of understanding of films in general.
I doubt anyone would have anything to discuss about an Adam Sandler movie seriously in here of 4chan, aside from "stay away from this". That whole "this is patrician, this is not" is bullshit, because it's the sort of insecurity complex those with a very superficial, banal idea of what art appreciation mostly teenagers preach about when they're trying to build their own identity.
So yes, of course I'm well aware of the issue with posting on /tv/, but that doesn't mean alienating other posters with a contrarian, "anti-mainstream" mentality when everyone KNOWS they all come from the same place isn't quite misguided.
No.1221
No.1231
>>1214>That whole "this is patrician, this is not" is bullshit,I agree wholeheartedly. I dislike the patrician-plebeian dichotomy as much as you do as it almost always diminishes discussion.
A lot of newcomers are simply afraid of posting because they think they'll get called out on their tastes for being "pleb", which is unfortunate because we need all the posters we can get at the moment.
None of us are citizens of Ancient Rome, and I doubt any of us are descendents of aristocracy, so we really need to drop this silliness.
I really, really hope this board becomes home to a wide range of discussions of all films, current and old; mainstream and arthouse/rare.
>>1221What's wrong with what he said? Come to think of it, I haven't seen a single good post from you.. If I was you, I'd be careful not to get b& from this board.
MODS = GODS
No.1232
>>1231>What's wrong with what he said?Did I imply he said something wrong? No. In fact, I approved of his post by tipping the hat I wore at that moment (a popular gesture in many cultures across the world).
Did you associate what I posted with the meme from halfchan? If you're going to do that with every phrase you read here, I think I'll have to redirect you back to that site.
>Come to think of it, I haven't seen a single good post from youWhat makes a post good? It has to be "tl;dr" (sorry for the meme)? It has to be filled with fancy words? Please do tell me your point of view on the matter, my good sir.
>If I was you, I'd be careful not to get b& from this boardI came here for the freedom of speech, I hope our Polish overlord is tolerant to different opinions, posting styles and so on. It will be a very useful quality seeing how diverse despite its modest size our community is.
>MODS = GODSThere is no god.
No.1235
>>1221Nice namefagging, nice shitposting maymaying.
No.1237
>>1235 I addressed the "maymaying" part here
>>1232And what's wrong with using a name? Of course, I am assuming you were using "nice" ironically. If you weren't, then thanks, I guess.
No.1239
>>1232>Did I imply he said something wrong? No. In fact, I approved of his post by tipping the hat I wore at that moment (a popular gesture in many cultures across the world).>Did you associate what I posted with the meme from halfchan? If you're going to do that with every phrase you read here, I think I'll have to redirect you back to that site.Don't try to play the fool with me. We both know the *tips fedora* maymay is used in a derogatory fashion towards someone you wish to berate.
Keep pushing because you'll just get b& and I'll laugh.
>There is no god.*tips tarkovsky*
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No.1241
As I've said earlier in /meta/, ban all russians, they can only shitpost.
No.1243
>>1241That's racist. I'm not even an ethnic Russian by the way.
No.1251
>>1231It's just a difference in attitude…being called a pleb rolls off like water óff a ducks back, because I've made the effort and spent the time getting knowledgeable.
A strong catalyst was being called a pleb and wanting to prove otherwise.
I'm sure there are people that are called a pleb, react as if its a massive insult to them personally and their inexperience and then still put in little effort to elevate this knowledge.
Its weird to me, but I'm no longer a pleb…the discussions I get are on equal footing and usually create new perspectives for both parties.
I'm not going to lower myself to cater to someone just out of their post fedora-core phase.
It just doesn't cut it in serious discussion.
If I were a pleb, I'd probably listen intensely and get information and tips on films I wouldn't be able to get somewhere else.
No.1254
>>1251>A strong catalyst was being called a pleb and wanting to prove otherwise.Oh, I completely agree with this. I think everyone should seek to improve themselves when criticised, but I'm just afraid that others aren't as strong willed
>Its weird to me, but I'm no longer a pleb…the discussions I get are on equal footing and usually create new perspectives for both parties.Unfortunately, I'm not at this stage yet, but I'm working my way there
>I'm not going to lower myself to cater to someone just out of their post fedora-core phase.But that shouldn't rule out discussion of mainstream film, just that that discussion should have its place in their own threads. Everyone starts somewhere, ya know?
>It just doesn't cut it in serious discussion.>If I were a pleb, I'd probably listen intensely and get information and tips on films I wouldn't be able to get somewhere else.Yes, when I sense I'm out of my depth, I lurk and learn. I write film/director names down and watch them, to improve myself.
Still, I don't think we should be harsh to newcomers by using outdated terms.
No.1255
ITT plebs being triggered.
>>1254I really am not going to make an effort to halt a thread on BTBR, Jodorowsky or Wes Anderson…this still all goes under the mantle of film.
Nobody will call you a moron for watching Kubrick…
What I ask is for someone not to shit up my thread by shifting it to the level of what they at that point consider 'the greatest director ever lived' and it's something like Nolan or Tarantino.
…even as a 'pleb', surely you must understand that you're bringing down the conversation to your own level and you, as the 'ignorant pleb', are not gaining anything from your echo chamber unless someone points it out to you.
Yes, you are a pleb…we all are or have been…at least try to make an effort of climbing out of the gutter and see how broad the medium can be.
No.1399
I don't like the boards being split, it seems to bring out the worst aspects in both. /tv/ is 90% shitposting and /film/ is as elitist and pretentious as halfchan's /lit/. Put them together and you might get a decent board. Separately they're kinda shit (/film/ being the better of the two)
No.1401
>>1399Insecure pleb detected.
No.1402
>>1401I'm not insecure of being unfamiliar with a lot of the shit you film school kids talk about, but a lot of people are and that's what stifles discussion on this board and others like it and will eventually turn all our threads into circlejerks. If you want people to develop better tastes and expand their horizons, it would help if you didn't act like you were better than them for having seen more movies. Point them in the right direction, give them a handful of suggestions (big lists are unfocused and intimidating), and let them better themselves.
Of course, knowing how patricians work, you probably don't actually want more people to like what you like. It would give you less of an unwarranted feeling of superiority.
No.1404
>>1399>literally one guy who is too pussy to be elitist with a flag on talks shit>baww why is this board so pretentious No.1406
>>1401I take it you haven't looked through too many of the threads around here. There's plenty of elitism outside this one.
No.1407
>>1402>pls spoonfeed me ;_; you meaniesGet out.
No.1408
>>1407Enjoy your circlejerk then, because this board will not get more traffic if this attitude persists. Especially if it forms a reputation for it.
No.1409
>>1407>>1401why isn't russia IP banned yet
No.1410
>>1408More traffic equals worse quality of discussion most of the time.
>>1406>elitismYou are saying that as if it's a bad thing.
No.1411
>>1409Oh, this racist Pole again. Why so bumflustered, my friend? Are you some kind of Ukrainian-Polsih hybrid?
No.1412
>>1411I'm butthurt because you only shitpost and make people who hemorrhage out of their anus each time somebody calls them a pleb like that ameriburger think that the other posters here condone this kind of behavior.
No.1413
>>1409Theoretically there might eventually be a Russian who can contribute meaningfully to threads.
>>1410This is the most passive-aggressive thing to say so I fucking hate ending this dialogue on this line, but I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I get why you like discussing movies with people with similar past experience, but I still think that some inclusiveness would create a board with more activity and with it more varied threads and discussions. Personally, I don't like talking to people who know exactly where I'm coming from all the time. I think I can learn from others' experiences and they can learn from mine regardless of if they take watching moving pictures more or less seriously than me.
No.1414
>>1412Well then it's his fault if he thinks that. What I post reflects only my opinion. And you aren't the one who decides what opinions should be censored.
Even if I was such a shitposter, it's hardly a reason to ban 140 million people from discussing film here.
>>1413I disagree with you and hope most of the others here do as well.
No.1416
>>1146This.
Let's keep the boards separate, hopefully that will keep the cancer away from /film/.
No.1433
>>1416I'm so glad I have my own body and I'm not stuck with somebody else's head my entire life.
No.1437
>>1433You're still American though. I wouldn't say that's much better.
No.1454
>>1402What if you're a patrician who ==does== want people to watch the movies you like? I am constantly trying to educate my pleb friends. Not limited to Foreign films, though. I can't watch movies I would rate highly with them, though, unless it is a comedy or something. They all suffer from "I must always talk or I may die" syndrome that a lot of people, and then they ask who characters are and what is going on.
Oh… and I think there should just be another board specifically for the discussion of television, given this board's title.
No.1505
>>1437At least he doesn't fuck bears
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