/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

>>86175

I'm a bit interesting in the rest of the history since I'm bored, but I will try to help.

>First, befriend her for a while and teach her how you should teach a noob here, in resume: sticky

>Second, talk to her and see if she has a psychiatrist, either she is borderline suicidal or in the path to achieve severe depression.

>Third, you can possible change a person's life for the better right now, if she's fat now you can teach her how to become /fit/ and in a couple of months both of you will be glad to meet each other for mutual benefit your ego and her health

TL;DR Sticky, friendship with fatty girl, make her /fit/ like yourself in baby steps

>what do you say to a girl who just told you she wants to die and doesn't deserve to live, because of her weight?

Confirm the statement back at her. If she has any chance at making it, she'll get mad at you and try to prove you wrong. If she doesn't, she'll go home and kill herself like the weak piece of shit she is, and the gene pool will be cleaner.

I'm a girl and I want attention

>>86177

I do sincerely want to try your method. The main reason I posed here was because I wanted somebody slightly sympathetic to help me. I don't want to imagine someone killed themselves when I could have helped.

But you mention the psychiatrist or depression. Last time a friend told me she wanted to die, she discovered emo or something and is totally fine now. There exists a chance this karate girl wants attention, or maybe some form of validation.

Even more than me because huehue girl posts she girl

>>86183

>she

>>86183

I'm trying to be helpful here, so forgive me if the text is long or it lacks proper grammar, I like english but I'm no master of it. I'm not bumping because doubleposting and if I do it will probably get the post deleted because we're in a different and swole kind of URSS

>The main reason I posed here was because I wanted somebody slightly sympathetic to help me.

It will be difficult to find it in the majority of the situations, also, I recommend not saying "I'm a girl btw xDDDD" or something alike, most of us here don't give 2 shits about your gender, but we value the lack of favouritism within this board minus the single members of a particular country, like egypt, which is a cool dude most of the time or LatviaAnd I know you're not exactly like that, just cover yourself as an anon, it helps to get serious answers and etc, plus a bit of worldwide internet friendship without problems

>I do sincerely want to try your method

>I don't want to imagine someone killed themselves when I could have helped.

At least give it a try and a serious talk with her, sometimes a person just needs to be heard and get comfy with another human being, then you can open her to new things and thus better herself, y'know?

>Last time a friend told me she wanted to die, she discovered emo or something and is totally fine now.

> There exists a chance this karate girl wants attention, or maybe some form of validation.

I know, but it depends on the situation and from person to person, a bunch of suicidal people aren't exactly a brick of darkness, despair and edgyness, it's something which happens just for the sake of happening, like a stroke or cancer.

>Even more than me because huehue girl posts she girl

I didn't get it, so I will ignore kek

"hey guys Im a girl here totally not saying that for attention haha Im just like one of you :3 now here's my story wait I need to talk about how Im a girl first then Ill get to my story btw I am a girl"

fuck off whore

>>86187

>also, I recommend not saying "I'm a girl btw xDDDD"

Yeah that's pretty much what I meant when I said

>I know the distinction doesn't help me here, but it is semi relevant

I'm sure it's obvious by now I don't use imageboards much, but I do know my gender is irrelevant. My thought process was the suggested approach might have been different it it was assumed I was male. I also know saying I'm a girl immediately makes it seem like I want attention and nothing more. So, thank you for hearing me out regardless.

>>86175

I would like to hear the rest of the story, how did it go with the fatty?

>>86175

Tell her to harden the fuck up, she wants to die because of her weight, but the children in africa die because of their weight but they keep going.

Tell her to get real problems, and carry on with what she is doing, sounds like she is on track.

Maybe help her with her diet.

>>86175

also yes, I do want to see more of this story

>>86206

>help

>I'm so lonely

Befriend a hooker, srsly.

I've done martial arts for over ten years. What I would say, and have said in these cases, is 'that's because you're unfit'.

>>86178

I second this Anon

And shame on you guys

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>>86178

Ameribro is right. Shame her, if it works, great, if not, nothing of value would be lost. Also

tits or gtfo

>>86221

She isn't a trap sadly chill out egypt

>>86178

>>86221

>>86222

I was obese as a kid and others laughing at me is what made me want to change, but I think it depends on the kind of person.

If she can take it without an heroing, go for it.

>>86175

be careful, you don't want her killing your sensei and then killing herself in the bathroom

>>86178

When this works, it works spectacularly. When it doesn't, she'll just think you don't care about her and will be more inclined to kill herself.

Read this, OP:

http://www.helpguide.org/articles/suicide-prevention/suicide-prevention-helping-someone-who-is-suicidal.htm

>>86205

Children in Africa are fuckin' walkers?

>>86244

She can't be really suicidal, that's just some shit she said at the time.

>>86254

Bullshit. Theatricality is not a sign that you're not frank about your suicidal intentions, contrary to popular belief.

>>86256

I still don't belive it, i'd be dead had i killed myself all the times i said i would.

>>86257

It's a red flag. Sure she could just be regularly depressed, or have hit a lowpoint that day, but being honestly suicidal is at least a possibility. Seen it happen.

>>86260

well, only op knows

>>86260

Or she could be a freakin whale who's just so sad because she didn't have her daily dose of shitload of sugar in a bar with her shitload of sugar in a soda can, probably

>>86175

Tell her she's already taken the right steps with physical activity, now all that's left is fixing her diet. Explain that losing weight is like becoming a black belt, it isn't earned overnight and it takes patience/knowledge/dedication to achieve success.

>>86263

Nobody is saying that isn't a possibility. There is no way to be 100% sure if someone is planning to commit suicide unless you catch them in the act. she could be an attention whore or she could be crazy. Nobody knows.

Wow. I go to bed expecting just more gender bashing, but get more actual advice. I'm so glad my post wasn't a waste of time! I'll stop referencing my gender now.

>>86192

>>86206

I like what you two say. I fell like diving head first into possible mental issues isn't going to help. I'll try and be her friend, mentor, example, all rolled into one.

>>86178

>>86221

>>86222

>>86225

One of the things my father taught me was to never wish death upon someone. He wished someone he knew died, and that person committed suicide, and he always felt guilty about it even if it wasn't his fault. So I want to be there to help, if I can. And maybe you people would call it naive, but I believe every life has worth, including hers.

>>86244

Thank you for that

>>86270

Good analogy. I'll be sure to remember that.

Now that all that's out of the way, I'll have to leave for work soon so since some people cared, here's the end of the story.

>her eyes are so red it's a miracle tears aren't pouring out

>sensei looks at us

>sees whale about to cry and me staring dumbfounded about what to say or do

>yells some encouragement like "all right guys its time to keep going"

>links his ankles with ours and starts doing sit ups

>do them in bouts of about three before letting whale take a break

>keeps telling her she can do it while counting them out

>he says "one of the tings my sensei always told us is that 'air is free'"

>say "wouldn't it be a terrible world if air wasn't free?"

>whale kinda laughs at our exchange

>couple more times she says "i want to die i dont deserve to live'

>sensei tells her she can

>no ifs ands or buts

>she can

>finish sit ups

>class ends

> go up to her and say "we didn't even have to do push ups!"

>trying to make a joke

>she kinda chuckles

>she leaves

>this was a few weeks ago

>haven't seen her in class since

She's alive still I know that. The martial arts club has a facebook page and individual arts pages. I found her and she posts regularly. Another reason I made this thread is because if/when she comes back, I'll have ideas for what to say to her.

>>86253

yes

>>86175

>>86282

Tell her she can't die until she completes the sets. and hope she doesn't kill herself after

you could make out with her after karate class

under the shower

in your karate gis

and then you slowly take off your belt and strangulate that fat landwhale

>>86286

you don't do such things on public sanitary grounds

also think about the poor man who has to deadlift that hog out of the showers

>>86289

>if her weight problem is that severe, you won't simply solve it by giving her chewinggum wisdoms in karate classes

Hate to be that guy, but her immediate problem is that she's suicidal, not that she's a landwhale.

Honestly, /fit/ of all boards should have some empathy. She's a misguided idiot who's letting her weight get in the way of what she loves, but a lot of us have been in that position.

>>86282

>Wow I went to bed expecting to be justifiably shit on but the absolute white knights, they actually did it!

One more for you, all fields. Cunt.

>>86282

Also helps to remind her that if she's doing this for self-development, then she's competing against herself, not against the fitter and more experienced people. So next time she comes in, she has to do at least one more situp in a row before she's allowed to complain about wanting to die. If she can do that, she wins. She can do that every day until she meets her goals, she really wins.

But yeah if she is just going to get disheartened by seeing fitter and more experienced people at work, then she needs to fix that shit first. No one ever got happy by comparing their work in progress to someone else's highlight reel.

>>86341

a what?

She literally said she can't do it and then did it anyway. Whatever she says is horseshit and you gotta point this out and push her to keep fighting

can i see your breasts please

I'm sorry I'm cynical, but people who say they want to die at the drop of a hat are either attention seeking and/or emotionally immature (the two often go together ). I wouldn't give her alleged will to die much credence and mostly if she were to try anything, she'd be the type who'd want to "sleep painlessly forever" and something retarded with Tylenol and end up alive but with a fucked liver.

As for what you can do, I'd just be encouraging and tell her that if she wants to progress, that she has to practice from a level she's comfortable with and then move up to more challenging levels. It goes for everyone but because she's especially fat, she won't notice many changes for a long time and she should be aware that shit takes constant repetition over extended periods to pay off .

As for dietary advice, you could tell her slysly that high protein diets (lean meat, cottage cheese, low fat milk, peanut butter, etc.) will help her muscles develop a bit faster (and make her feel fuller so she'll pork out less).

(I'm a female anon who did karate too, albeit for 6 months, but that's barely relevant )

Getting out of my shit life was hard but trying to get someone into a /fit mentality is Herculean.

I'd recommend you to try just a little and if she doesn't come out of her fat closet then just leave her there, you can't save everyone nobody can. Be someone she aspires to be, that's the best you can do, don't be her friend at least for now

Also, don't say that you're a girl unless we're talking about periods or pregnancy. And no, it wasn't relevant to the story and most of us don't give a fuck about your gender.

>>86175

Who cares honestly?

Tell her to quit bitching.

>>86481

>Also, don't say that you're a girl unless we're talking about periods or pregnancy. And no, it wasn't relevant to the story and most of us don't give a fuck about your gender.

I do think it's relevant, in a way. Now we know OP is not a chubby chaser or that banging some self-consciousness into her is not an option. Talking to a girl is different depending on whether you are a guy or a girl.

>>86282

Would it be too autistic to send her a message?

>>86456

LONDON

>>86282

>but I believe every life has worth, including hers.

This is why people call women the inferior gender.