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 No.90202

Couple of Questions about Squatting. I know they're dumb but I'm trying to learn a little more about the Squat itself just for fun and enjoyment.

>Knees beyond toes

Are they bad or it's just broscience like most of the articles about squatting say so?

>The Belt

What exactly do you think the belt does to your squat/deadlift/bench? is it necessary when achieving high numbers like a 400lb Bench or a 600lb Squat?

>Knee Wraps

Do they fuck your knees in the long run and what they do in the process of squatting?

 No.90204

>knees beyond toes

Broscience. Don't even. It's decent enough advice for some people because they have their knees so far out due to putting the weight on their toes. But it's in no way an actual rule you need to follow.

>belt

The belt gives you something to push your abdomen against, enabling you to keep your core more stable while squatting/deadlifting (pointless in bench). It is not a brace. If it allows you to lift more weight, it is because you have poor muscular control, not because it actually puts any weight off the lift. If you're gonna use a belt, use it on your work sets, not warmup. It's good to learn properly what you need to focus on to keep a tight core rather than letting the belt do the thinking for you.

>wraps

Do they fuck your knees in the long run? They can, if you use them when it's not appropriate. Contrary to the belt, wraps do in fact take weight off the squat and lets you squat more that way. This changes your muscular development if you use them all the time. Use them if you're a competitive powerlifter doing really heavy doubles or singles. Otherwise, don't bother. Also, it's important to note that what Klokov is using in the picture are knee sleeves, not wraps. There's a difference. Those are basically just there to provide warmth and compression, which helps you avoid injury. There's not really any negative to using them. Do as you wish.

Of course, you'd know all of this and more already if you read Starting Strength.

Seriously, read the book, it's great. Even if you don't intend to do the program, you should have read the book. There's a lot of good knowledge in it.


 No.90205

>>90202

>Knees beyond toes

As long as it doesn't go too far. I'm more concerned about the knees caving in.

>The Belt

I use it. It takes the lower back out off the movement so you don't "good morning" the way up. I use it on my diaphragm for deadlifts and on my belly when I'm squatting and pressing.

>Knee Wraps

I'm considering using them since I squat low bar.


 No.90206

>>90204

>>90205

Thanks lads.

Also.

>I'm more concerned about the knees caving in.

I know that struggle, if you have some advice to give about it I will highly appreciate.


 No.90207

>Knees beyond toes

It's okay I guess, I read on T nation that when knees go beyond toes it becomes more quad-driven while keeping knees in is more about Hamstrings, try doing some bodyweight squats standing up in both poses and feel it yourself, I guess what matters the most is to keep the bar path straight and above the centre of gravity middle of your feet

I haven't read or used the belt or wraps myself, I barely wear a t-shirt and a pair of tracksuit pants, so I don't know a thing about those accessories and anything I say might just be broscience as well

This includes being part of the BAREFEET MASTERRACE


 No.90218

>>90206

I guess you should keep the feet pointing 45ยบ out and try to push your knees out during the whole movement, it will surely test your hip mobility. People will oftem say you need to drop the weight, even though it's more efficient and you'll move more weight if you keep your knees out.


 No.90251

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>>90202

>I know they're dumb but I'm trying to learn a little more about the Squat itself just for fun and enjoyment

U WOT M8

The squat is the king of lifts. If you want to know how to squat properly, watch this video. Yeah its long, but you'll learn everything you need to know. Ignore Brazil, he is retarded.


 No.90430

>>90251

I think I watched that video 10 times already, thanks anyway.


 No.90456

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>>90430

pepper your angus


 No.90457

>>90430

Then get out there and squat already. That's more than you need to know.

>>90456

>Omar Assmuff

just stop




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