/fit/ - Fitness, Health, and Feels

Have you tried weeeed, man? It, like, cures cancer and makes your lungs even healthier.

>>90216

>I think I got scammed by jews

I thought for a second about Protein Powder kek

It's your own fault man, I suggest not falling for bullshit anymore.

>>90243

Nicotine is not particularly addictive. Caffeine is more addictive. Its the cocktail of chemicals in tobacco that sensitize your brain to nicotine and make it addictive. That's why nicotine replacement therapy for tobacco cessation has such shit results. Your brain wants that cocktail, not just nicotine.

>>90216

I used to get nicotine drops from this person on ebay called gardenofourgod or some shit. It was dosed at 1 or 2mg per drop.

2mg is a smallish dose. That's about one cigarette's worth of nicotine, but without all the other nicotine enhancing chemicals in tobacco.

Also, you don't really get much of a buzz from nicotine. Its a very subtle compound. If you're feeling the nicotine, you're close to getting a little to much and may start to get nauseas. If you're trying to get high from it, you're doing it wrong.

TL;DR: You're a dumbass that has no idea what he's doing.

>>90238

Dude weed lmao

>>90238

I don't have cancer or lungs, don't need

>>90240

>It's your own fault man, I suggest not falling for bullshit anymore.

So what drugs to buy? They bullshit everywhere. I tried many shit like amphetamines, phenidates, caffeines - everything turned out to be scam

>>90243

>If you're not already addicted to nicotine I strongly suggest staying away from it. If you DO use it, keep your will strong and never succumb to using cigarettes.

Not addicted, but trying gums for few days, raising dosages every day, doesn't work yet. No way I am going to use cigarettes or tobacco. I am not degenerate.

>If you have the personality to become dependent or a weak will don't subject yourself to addictive substances in the first place.

I am not addicted to any substance (except food and water), maybe it's because all substances are scam and placebo.

>If you're curious about vaping for your source of nicotine I can find you some guides and articles to give you the pros and cons on that too,

I don't want vaping - I do not like the process, and also vaping is more addictive (act stronger but shorter) than gums. I'll stick to gums.

>but like I said, if you're not already addicted you're often better off not picking up an addiction on purpose.

I don't care if addictive or not. I am unable to even brush my tooth. I need strong drugs that work. I need to be millionaire, fast.

>>90248

>2mg is a smallish dose. That's about one cigarette's worth of nicotine, but without all the other nicotine enhancing chemicals in tobacco.

So what dose to use? 4? 6? 10? mg

>Also, you don't really get much of a buzz from nicotine. Its a very subtle compound. If you're feeling the nicotine, you're close to getting a little to much and may start to get nauseas. If you're trying to get high from it, you're doing it wrong.

So how to know if it works? I was expecting that I immediately will start working on IMPORTANT and NEEDED tasks, but didn't happen on 2mg dose. What will happen when nicotine works?

>>90216

OP stop, don't get anymore it'll do you no good. Nicotine is poison, it cures fuck all.

I was a smoker and they are as addictive as FUCK, don't play around with this shit if you're not coming off cigs. I'll grant you it'd be a weird way to get hooked but don't chance it.

>>90248

>Nicotine is not particularly addictive

Next to heroin it's the most addictive commonly available drug. Takes 3 months to fully wash out of your mind if you've the resolve and stop-gaps like vaping/mints/patches.

Nicotine replacement therapy works if the person taking it is serious about what they're doing, a smoker cannot expect to have an easy transition from necking a drug every couple of hours to never doing it again. People are fucking weak and expect an easy ride, that's the problem, they erroneously think they don't have to show any will, that the crutch will do all the work for them.

>>90272

Seriously for your own good, just stop using it, nicotine replacement is methodone to cigarettes heroin and it should only be used by people trying to quit a life ruining addiction.

Upping does would be bad juju. 0.7mg to 1.2mg is roughly the content of one cig. I tried a 4mg mint on the day I resolved to never smoke again and it utterly wiped out the craving and made me buzz a little (like when I first started smoking) but it's a really really shitty drug to get high with. Even when you're an early smoker it's only good for a few months then it's massively diminishing returns and by then you're in too deep.

>>90282

Also what little high there is from smoking is shit in comparison to weed or indeed anything else.

Makes you a bit light-headed and your feet feel fuzzy if you're walking, that's about it. Totally not worth the effort or the money.

This time I tried 3+1 mg (total 4mg). I think it doesn't work. Or maybe does - if I feel anything I have less physical fatigue. Normally it's very hard and effortful to go from PC to kitchen, or even walk. I think now it's easier to walk and effort. But that could be just coincidence.

I do not feel any effects in my mind/brain.

>>90282

>OP stop, don't get anymore it'll do you no good. Nicotine is poison, it cures fuck all.

then why science tells nicotine is miracle cure? even pubmed says so. it is investigated as adhd and schizophrenia drug, and for other conditions too.

>I was a smoker and they are as addictive as FUCK, don't play around with this shit if you're not coming off cigs. I'll grant you it'd be a weird way to get hooked but don't chance it.

but i'm not smoking. I'm not degenerate.

But some years ago I did like 40 cigarettes in total over course of months (up to 3 a day) and I never got addicted. Maybe because tobacco is scam, doesn't work.

>Next to heroin it's the most addictive commonly available drug. Takes 3 months to fully wash out of your mind if you've the resolve and stop-gaps like vaping/mints/patches.

Yes, is, but only if you smoke it (tobacco). Nicotine itself, especially in gums, is times less addictive than smoking. Also, even if you were to be addicted to gums, it has 4 times less health effects than smoking.

>Seriously for your own good, just stop using it, nicotine replacement is methodone to cigarettes heroin and it should only be used by people trying to quit a life ruining addiction.

who says that? NRT has nicotine, right? and pubmed says nicotine is a cure, medicine. So I am going to take nicotine as medicine.

>0.7mg to 1.2mg is roughly the content of one cig.

Yes but cigarettes act fast and strong but short. Gums act slower and without peak, but longer.

>but it's a really really shitty drug to get high with.

I'm not trying to get high. I am looking for drug that will cure me, and eventually make me a millionaire.

>>90283

I don't need high.

>>90285

>why science tells nicotine is miracle cure?

nothing is a miracle cure and anyone trying to tell you that "science" says that anything is going to cure everything that ails you is lying

>>90291

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine

>and immediately stimulates nicotinic acetylcholine receptors; this indirectly promotes the release of many chemical messengers such as acetylcholine, norepinephrine, epinephrine, arginine vasopressin, serotonin, dopamine, and beta-endorphin in parts of the brain.[28][29] Nicotine also extends the duration of positive effects of dopamine and increases sensitivity in brain reward systems.

>Nicotine is frequently used for its performance-enhancing effects on cognition, alertness and focus.[38] A meta-analysis of 41 double-blind, placebo-controlled studies concluded that nicotine or smoking had significant positive effects on aspects of fine motor abilities, alerting and orienting attention, and episodic and working memory.[39] A 2015 review noted that stimulation of the α4β2 nicotinic receptor is responsible for certain improvements in attentional performance

>While acute/initial nicotine intake causes activation of nicotine receptors, chronic low doses of nicotine use leads to desensitisation of nicotine receptors (due to the development of tolerance) and results in an antidepressant effect, with research showing low dose nicotine patches being an effective treatment of major depressive disorder in non-smokers.

>Though tobacco smoking is associated with an increased risk of Alzheimer's disease,[118] there is evidence that nicotine itself has the potential to prevent and treat Alzheimer's disease.[119]

>Research into nicotine's most predominant metabolite, cotinine, suggests that some of nicotine's psychoactive effects are mediated by cotinine.[120][121]

>Little research is available in humans but animal research suggests there is potential benefit from nicotine in Parkinson's disease.[122]

>There is tentative evidence that nicotinamides may improve depression.[123]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotinic_agonist

> The nicotinic acetylcholine receptor agonist are gaining increasing attention as drug candidates for multiple central nervous system disorders such as Alzheimer's disease, schizophrenia, attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and nicotine addiction.[24][25]

>>90294

ok, so there is some evidence that nicotine may be useful in developing treatments for certain illnesses

how this equates to "miracle cure for all psycological disorders" remains a mystery to me, especially since you had to scroll through an entire page listing the health hazards in order to cherrypick those quotes

>>90282

>Next to heroin it's the most addictive commonly available drug.

No. Tobacco is. Without the diverse chemical cocktail in tobacco, nicotine is not very addictive, and in fact difficult to get addicted to.

Have you ever tried to get a laboratory animal addicted to just nicotine? It can't be done without forcing the animal to take more nicotine than it wants to.

>Nicotine replacement therapy works if the person taking it is serious about what they're doing

Again, this has been shown to be bullshit. Nicotine replacement therapy is one of the least effective forms of smoking cessation. The brain craves the cocktail, not just nicotine.

>>90322

ok but I needed help in adhd and schizophrenia negative symptoms, and it said nicotine treats them

also, side effects of nicotine are low, unless you overdose

>>90365

Cease being such a faggot self-treating and endangering yourself and go to a doctor. Really.

>>90365

I've been a heavy smoker for most of my life. I've stopped two years ago and transitioned to vaping with an increasingly lower nicotine level.

The effects of nicotine are minor. It's not worth starting. It's just about the least effective drug at a fairly high addiction level. If you need stuff that actually works you should just go to a doctor and get something prescribed that works.

For perspective, a strong cup of coffee has an effect about ten times more noticeable on you than a whole pack of cigarettes a day has on you. Nicotine is very sublime, yet extremely addictive. Caffeine beats it in absolute effect easily. Unless you'd judge caffeine as a super strong drug, chances are your serious problems are going to be affected by nicotine fuck all.

>>90216

"it doesn't work"?

what exactly do you expect to happen? if your using it to prevent Parkinson's and Alzheimer's you won't notice anything different if it's effective, you just won't get those diseases 50 years from now or whatever. And yeah if you have schizophrenia nicotine alone will not make the voices go away, see a doctor for sure bro.

If you're saying you're not getting a 'buzz' from it.. 2 mg is a weak dose. Use 4 mg. If you want it to release faster chew it more. The effects of nicotine are mild but it just makes you more relaxed basically. The gum is not totally comparable to smoking though,the smoke has other compounds in it that also have effects, and also just the act of inhaling the smoke, the smell and taste of the tobacco, etc. can be pleasurable for the smoker.