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File: 1447301867583.pdf (155.28 KB, Top-Flop Voting and Co-ope….pdf)

 No.914

Let's post pdf about voting methods. This document describes two methods for electing a single seat. Both methods detect some majoriarian patterns that plurality voting doesn't, reduce the problem of similar candidates splitting the vote, have some robustness regarding tactical voting, and are still relatively easy to count.

 No.915

CGP Grey has good videos on electoral methods, search on youtube


 No.916

>>915

In "The Alternative Vote Explained" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y3jE3B8HsE), CGP Grey claims the Alternative Vote (aka Instant Runoff) doesn't have the spoiler effect. Strictly speaking, this isn't quite true. Whenever no Condorcet winner exists, you have cyclic majorities, and when you have that, you can always construct several alternative scenarios where all but two candidates drop out, with no candidate being preferred by a majority in all scenarios they appear in. So, all methods that elect the majority winner in an election with only two candidates with 100 % probability suffer from the spoiler issue, though to different extent, and I agree that Instant Runoff is better than Plurality in that regard.

The scenario where Runoff works better than Plurality is with a two-candidate election turning into an election with three candidates, the third-party candidate being somewhat similar to one of the two already in the race, getting much fewer votes than the two established candidates, but, by drawing support away from one of the candidates, enough to change the winner to the one least liked by the supporters of the two similar candidates. To be clear, we are assuming here that candidate A has more votes than either candidate B or C, but less than both of them combined, and B and C as well as their supporters consider A the worst. A wins in Plurality, but is prevented from winning by Instant Runoff (or a real second voting round). And A is also prevented from winning by the methods Top Flop and Co-op presented in the pdf, and both these methods are easier to count.


 No.933

What do you guys think of the "Slate System" of electing leadership?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slate_(elections)

Any material on the topic, either for or against? I know that a lot of Trotskyist organizations use this system.


 No.968


 No.969

>>968

Very interesting. And depressing. The slate system is atrocious, the earlier election method is of course better, though it doesn't look amazing either:

>Congress delegates voted for as many individuals as there were seats on the Central Committee, and the appropriate number with the highest votes were declared elected.

This is called block voting or plurality at large and has some usage in the US, where people don't know what proportional elections are. Limiting the voters in how many candidates they can approve serves no purpose whatsoever: It doesn't secure minorities to have a voice, since a majority faction doesn't just secure the majority of seats, but all the seats. If on the other hand you see this not as a bug, but as a feature — you don't want a micro-cosm of the various strands that quarrels a lot, but a broadly acceptable bunch of people who act in unity — then again, it makes no sense to limit how many a voter can approve.


 No.970

There's two sympathetic books on the Cuban electoral system and its differences with Soviet and other methods:

* http://bookzz.org/book/2482948/67174c

* http://bookzz.org/book/2548797/920457




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