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I will keep this thread alive until no posts occur from other people for 5 consecutive days.

Just go read Dynamic Thought. Magick is just a feature of a mental universe and the way consciousness interacts with everything and everything being vibration and muh monads and so on I'm explaining this really poorly because heat waves and tired and I don't post here much and whatever.

Took me years of hardcore research and to realize magick was real but now I know both on an intellectual level and through actual attainments it's real.

tl;dr magick doesn't real, now don't bother me while I spend the next few hours working on my thoughtforms and ignore those rappings and tappings goy it's nothing

ITT: OP who wants to be given cookies and milk.

Apparently the book "What the F* Do We Know" or whatever the full name is has some metaphysical research in it, that might interest OP

>>48197

>>48199

Please avoid speculation or shitposting.

Thank you.

I can prove success the same way a psychologist can. I have patients that come to me with problems, I help them fix those problems. Every real practitioner knows magick is in the mind first and foremost, and the people posting about being able to affect the outside world beyond what is controlled by the mind are just as fedora tipping as whoever started this thread.

>>48199

I think OP is right in asking for evidence, it's what any decent rational skeptic ought to do. However OP, it seems the general consensus around these parts is that it can't be truly understood through sequences of ink stains on a dead tree (or what have you), but only through direct experience and deep introspective thought, otherwise it wouldn't be cloaked in all the vague bullshittery it is. You'd have to try and learn for yourself and make up your own opinions, as I don't think anonymous shit posters on a taiwanese pet grooming website will ever satisfy you.

>>48192

Has a song ever made you want act according to it lyrics, then magick is real.

>>48192

I have a simple one. It's part of quantum theory, it's called observer bias. Take a coin, and flip it multiple times in a room by yourself, without letting anyone know what you are doing. It will land most on the side you truly believe it will beforehand.

I've done this hundreds of times in a row, and I ONLY got tails. Problem with this experiment is that you need to be alone, and in full control of every conscious and unconscious thought in your head to get as good at it as I am.

>>48208

no OP, you are the shitposter here, though >>48220 and >>48224 gave you good answers.

It's not something that can be successfully replicated for an audience due to interference of mundanes and the low skill level of the neophyte who still bothers to try proving magic to skeptics.

>>48237

OP wants a question highly relevant to the board answerd without the thread beeing reduced into a shitpost fest.

>no OP, you are the shitposter here

Cmon dude if he atleast would have said anything cocky or ignorant I could understand your answer.

>>48219

>the people posting about being able to affect the outside world beyond what is controlled by the mind are just as fedora tipping as whoever started this thread.

lol retard you don't even realize we live in a mental universe

Hey OP prove to me we live in a world of dead matter.

Scientific proof (when it is actually done right) is nothing more than a result which can be achieved by anyone if the conditions necessary are achieved. Same goes for /fringe/, except the fundamentalist materialist or the "mundanes" if you prefer insist that they have achieved the necessary conditions when they really didn't. So in shorter words materialist are really just butthurt they can't into other dimensions.

>>48280

It's as if someone would try to proove the newtons laws of dynamics without knowing how to do basic math or what a multiplication is.

>>48284

And then saying everybody who believes it is insane

>>48192

My magickal practice has managed to yield me results that, happening by coincidence, are statistically negligable.

I don't really need to prove it to other people. Just to myself. Honestly just read some Phil Hine and drop a couple sigils, and the truth will become apparent.

>>48280

>>48192

Sheldrake is good, some other good names in more spiritually oriented science is Tom Campbell, he keeps the science really hard. Some other names also include Marko Rodin and Santos Bonacci, their work may see a little less science-y until you've consumed a critical mass, then it will click as the knowledge will overflow into other subjects in undeniable ways. Walter Rustle is also promising looking, I've only just discovered him recently so I haven't had a chance to read in as much detail and depth as I would have liked so far, though it seems to be harmonic, and very interesting.

See also >>32538

You can also get into engineering with the non-physical energy field, too.

For less abstractions and theory and more simple science; Orgonite (and idealized, it would have the maximum surface area between the organic material and the metal). The energy field it exuded is helpful to all life. If your sensitive you can feel the energy field and even if you're not you can still objectively measure the results, both in people/animals and plants. See http://orgone-art.all4orgone.com/anglais/visibleeffectgarden2.htm

Or, (though I have not personally had a chance to experiment with it) in their aether drives (a la Biefield-Brown effect) would be intuitively feel-able too.

For details of a more personal nature, through the intuitive sensitivity and knowledge there of, I can and have healed myself and others of varying things from burns to poison ivy, malignant growths to (over)strained muscles/tendons.

I've also used my powers to manifest varying things such as fortune (abundance), love (my wife), and to render blessings upon those that may cross my path. Theoretically there isn't a limit to what this can be used for, just the greater the change I desire to manifest the greater intention density I must apply.

>>48316

I don't know how I could have forgotten, Masaru Emoto's water experiments. I've also duplicated them personally with good results (extremely noticeable differences in 4 days).

>>48311

Pretty much this right here. My life went from falling apart to building up. It's still far from perfect, but things like intention, sigils, and precognition have played their role. It's like walking on an unseen foundation.Too hard to prove, but I still have to walk some more.

The proof is something that one has to prove to themselves. They just have to go out and do it.

Even back on /x/, I was confirming that there were at least a few other posters that had very strong psychic ability when it came to sensing things like rooms, people, or objects. Most people don't realize their potential until they try.

>>48316

Rupert is good because he wouldn't "trigger" most people. He doesn't go very deep, but people starting usually don't go deep also. Though I like his morphic resonance theory.

I'll see your recommendations. I was actually needing this, for reasons that I won't explain. But thank you anon.

>>48242

I forget that we're no longer on freedomboard and the thread with examples if magic is lost now.

Even there skeptics who came for proof rationalized what they saw as tricks so I don't expect this to be any different.

We can share experiences all we like but this isn't likely to convince anyone since every benefit of magic can be written off as a very good string of coincidences.

>>48351

I'm reading a book Sheldrake co-authored with a theologian about angels and it's kind of scary how well medieval conceptions of angels (think Aquinas) jive with the nature of the photon and quantum physics. Great stuff.

>>48391

I did not know about the existence of this. One more to the list. God if only I could read and understand fully a book in a few minutes.

>>48316

What would you recommend to read to manifest results these results you talk about? I have infinite ammounts of will

I'm open to any of you showing any sort of evidence in any way you want. I won't easily dismiss it as a trick, I'll be open minded about it.

I made this thread.

http://8ch.net/fringe/res/58792.html

From what I know and have seen it could work. Become this interesting thing. If enough people can find comfort and interest in such a thing. ITT: it does would have to be started first.

What would you think of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ddbVHlKIw0&list=PLhSIPflkiS8Bbpp2kGvauPvgSNXs5cdrZ

It always does something

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5KHSfZ4e2I

>>48237

I just flipped a coin twenty one times. 14 heads and 7 tails. This actually worked. Can anyone explain how this happens?

>>61197

You know, if believing that it does work changes it, believing why it works might too. Be careful with the explanation you use.

OP, Yup, I got proofs:

Kundalini is real, something is happening, it's detected by scientific tools.

http://www.nithyananda.org/article/scientific-study-kundalini-activation-its-benefits#gsc.tab=0

Breatharianism is real:

http://www.nbcnews.com/health/70-years-without-eating-starving-yogi-says-its-true-1C9926692

http://phys.org/news/2010-05-starving-yogi-astounds-indian-scientists.html

Meditation has some SERIOUS effects on EVERYTHING, the proof that there is another, more subtle body it has effect on is not there, but it has been shown that it can do pretty amaizing and "impossible" things.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-12661646

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a3093/the-science-of-bruce-lees-one-inch-punch-16814527/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/

All kings, pharaos, geniuses of science and more great minds of old and modern times did magic and delved deep into the occult.

Do you think kings, emperors, pharaohs, Hitler, Stallin, Tesla, Newton, Dee, Jung, Freud, Marx, Nietzche, Machiavelli, Conan Doyle, Assimov, Heraclitus, Pythagore and many many many more have spend their time into hardcore occult texts for nothing?

Do you seriously think that the people that revolutionized the culture of the world had the time to loose themselves into some "dellusional make believe"?

Do you think Shaolin Monks waste their life to do nothing more then strength training?

Why study occult buddhist/hindu texts and have long periods of meditation and secret practices then?

Please, stop being so gullible. Go do your own research.

>>61255

Sieg Heil to that.

I once cast runes with a futhorc set before I gave them blood, I figured I could just do a quick one.

My readings for past were "ulcer", present was "grave" and future was "mouth"

wasnt really sure what any of it had to do with each other and went to sleep

then that night i wake up at 2 am and start puking blood

its pretty clear to me now, I think

>>61314

Question anon; did you make your own set? I have been on the lookout for a decent diameter branch to make my own futharc set.

>>48224

……….you are fucking wrong as shit. i dont know fuckall about magick, im just passing through, but as a dabbler in theoretical physics and quantum wierdshiet, and thats not how it works. you are but a tiny piece in a ocean of dependencies and 'calls' for other variables. your test may work but you need 100 people to do it and then gather the data and compare things. you cant just do something in your bedroom and not understand the science then think its done.

>>61326

It works for him, why are you mad?

>>61327

its just not science and hes talking like it is. its cool if he wants to say thats proof but dont say its anything to do with quantum or try and pass it off as scientifically approved. what hes talking about is a widely misunderstood topic so i seek to clarify aswell i guess.

>>61328

but whether or not it is "science", if you can replicate this experiment on your own, wouldn't it mean something?

I would prove the existence of high magicks here in this thread, but their power is something that must be cloesly protected and not doled out to outsiders. If a mundane person knew magick, it could be misused. If you truly seek to know whether magick is "provably real", then you'll have to join my spooky cult first, and work your way into the upper ranks.

>>61336

yes and no. it would but its just the tip of the data, to actually understand you need a reputable scale to do the experiment on and a solid hypothesis first.

>>61326

This guy's fedora is triggered.

>>61403

Ok. how does one your spooky cult?

>>48219

t. bullshit "occultist"

How many of you can create electrical current, transfer heat, and stop bullets with your bodies, like this guy?

>>73012

Not a single one of these bullshit "occultists" will come even close to this level.

>>73012

How do you know any thing this guy does is real

>>73097

because mopai neikung is legit

>>73118

Excellent evidence there, pal

>>73151

you don't care about evidence, you just want to be right

>>48316

is there anywhere I can find all the studies he mentions?

>>73153

nice projection

Wim Hof teaches a method that both warms the body and controls the immune system relying on concentration and a simple breathing exercise.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/

and heres a page of studies on esoteric things

http://deanradin.com/evidence/evidence.htm

>>61255

>http://www.nithyananda.org/article/scientific-study-kundalini-activation-its-benefits#gsc.tab=0

this shit is marketed to fuck, furthermore the only source for that study is on their website. I am highly doubtful of this source.

theres got to be something out there for evidence of kundalini so I'll keep looking though.

>>73214

found one

A study of structure of phenomenology of consciousness in meditative and non-meditative states.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9142560

they dont say what these changes look like though.