Question Thread #21 Post All Questions In Here 03/05/16 (Sat) 09:47:03 No. 71859
Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/o6rto FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html
Post last edited at 03/05/16 (Sat) 09:55:22
03/05/16 (Sat) 12:18:57 No. 71862
Why didn't you wait for dubs to start this question thread?
03/05/16 (Sat) 12:59:08 No. 71863
>>71862
Who the fuck cares.
03/05/16 (Sat) 13:55:17 No. 71864
>>71862
why didn't he just sticky the one tipp made
03/05/16 (Sat) 18:55:44 No. 71869
03/05/16 (Sat) 19:37:30 No. 71870
>>71869
is there a point to no fap if I haven't read all the basic material yet
cause I'm been no fap for 4 days and I really need to release some sexual energy
03/05/16 (Sat) 19:44:14 No. 71871
>>71870
Why? Get this through your head that you will lose all that energy if you fap, what's the point?
03/05/16 (Sat) 19:48:15 No. 71872
>>71871
will my desire for fapping at least leave eventually?
03/05/16 (Sat) 19:49:56 No. 71873
>>71872
Yes if you avoid porn, I was stupid and I would edge without ejaculating as I couldn't get rid of the porn addiction and I would always break in after a few days, after I quit porn entirely I didn't want to fap
03/05/16 (Sat) 20:28:30 No. 71875
>>71873
guess I have no choice then
03/05/16 (Sat) 21:07:07 No. 71876
>>71870
yes, there is a point. you can do other things instead masturbating. if you sense a breakdown coming, go masturbate in the shower or something. video pornography is tainted with very negative programming, i think.
03/05/16 (Sat) 22:36:46 No. 71882
If your vital force is the force of river of desire pushing forward, then masturbating to girls on screen is the path of its least resistance. You can masturbate every day and it could be fine, but it would be a very silly thing to do if you know nothing about flow of your river and the blockages it has.
Simply stopping fapping doesn't necessarily mean much. If you don't orgasm in a sock in your room, you'll orgasm into song coming from the car passing you on street, or into eyes of a girl at the counter in a shop, or you'll be orgasming the whole day with general sense of anxiety, anger, restlessness, unproductive daydreams and dreams. Or you'll orgasm during pooping as pile of shit brushes your prostate and cold shivers run through your back. And inevitably succubi will suck you off in dreams and you won't even remember in the morning
The river couldn't really give any fucks which way it will go, it just flows and interacts with other flows. If blinfolded amateur engineer like yourself builds a dam in a random place, the river will just go find another path. It doesn't matter.
Now, if you know how to clear the blockages from the stream and channel it approximately where you want - then it's the different story.
03/05/16 (Sat) 22:38:31 No. 71883
>>71882
become aware of how your river flows and what you can do with it. do something else with it and prove to yourself you can do whatever you want with it, not only fap. once you're done, you can go back fapping to porn. but first do something big to actually see see how it's like. it's not so much about fapping as it's about your awareness. because if you don't care and give up your awareness and control, your awareness and control are going to be taken away from you and given to someone else, just like you wish.
03/05/16 (Sat) 23:08:22 No. 71885
Can anyone assist with the proper archangels and chakra associations from a good proper source. There seem to be mixed opinions on which angel does what chakra online.
Thank you for your time.
tipp 03/06/16 (Sun) 02:05:42 No. 71895
So I was just posting answers to questions in the Question Thread that has been up days before this one was, you know the one that has 40 posts about diverse subjects like energy vampirism, Socrates, energy management, fapping, fundamental understanding of energy, cause and effects, links to all other previous Q threads with a good motivation to check them out and the beginning of a project to cut out good posts and catalog them, you know, this >>71705 thread?
After asking smiley & croo' to sticky >>71705 Instead of this second thread (containing shitposting and "charge my sigil" shit (which is offensive and should be spoilered & explained what it is about to convince us to charge it)) in which we are now typing, a great mod, truly one of Gods chosen lambs, decided to sticky his second thread, who knows, maybe because he was lazy or because he thought his thread was just that good, despite others pointing out that #21 already existed and my vigorous efforts to track down smiley and ask for it to be fixed.
Here it comes, the reason why I'm writing this wall of text.
Before I knew this, that #1 #21 had been locked, I had decided to finish up the questions and subjects in the original #21 thread, after writing a 2.5k word post on Socrates & Greek demonology I posted it and exited the tab, reading "Thread locked" in the same moment the tab closes, you see, this had me rather moody so I decided to blow some steam and wrote a similar length essay about in depth sigilcrafting filled with personal experience on what materials to use, what ink to write with, best ways to imbue frequency and intent in hardening blood, you know, just about everything I've gathered about the subject from around everywhere while also linking to a few sites, books and the /dump/ threads' infographics about it, of course, nobody is going to get to read that either because as I got done I wanted to be absolutely sure that the thread was indeed locked so I promptly clicked send and closed the tab to reopen it to see if the text really wasn't posted, and guess what, it wasn't!
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I'm sitting this thread out, might see you in #22, good job and thanks Hotpocket!
03/06/16 (Sun) 05:28:20 No. 71897
I don't think the topic of nephilim is used often here so let's start with that.
Who are they?
What are they?
03/06/16 (Sun) 06:14:15 No. 71899
>>71895
Your thread should have been stickied. Maybe not if it was posted on the same day, but #20 had been at it's cap for a day or two and eventually someone was going to make a new question thread.
Bad move on Smileys part.
03/06/16 (Sun) 09:50:12 No. 71906
>>71895
that's pretty hilarious
03/06/16 (Sun) 11:13:29 No. 71907
how can I get somebody over the internet to fall in love with me with magick?
I have fallen in love, and it's very painful because I know this person would never love me back the way I love them.
Would summoning a goetic spirit work for something like that? Which spirit would I evoke?
Are there any rituals I could do?
pls halp fringe
03/06/16 (Sun) 14:09:50 No. 71916
>>71907
you love her for the energy she's emanating. your energy yearns to connect with her energy for various reasons. most probably because your energy recognizes that it requires what her energy has in order to become whole. your energy is being drawn to her energy on the less conscious level. on more conscious level you label this experience as "love"
to make her love you, her energy needs to start yearning for your energy just like yours yearns for hers
first question to ask is why doesn't her energy draw to your energy as well?
your energies need to yearn to interact with each other. to make her love you, you need to "make" her energy draw to yours
doing that with rituals results in artificially forcing her energy to draw to yours. have you ever been high on amphetamines? it's like you experience emotions but they're not quite yours. they're artificially manafactured. she will experience love on the subconscious level but on the conscious level she'll hate herself and yourself for that. and then it will pass
what you need to is to get in trance but not to send spirits to manipulate her energy to direct to yours, but to simply dissect her energy and yours and become completely aware of the relation they stand in. you need to become fully aware why you love her and why she doesn't love you. once you know that, you'll NATURALLY connect to her in a way she'll love you back because she'll subconsciously see you fit in her. you'll get in the social flow and start talking to her and in minutes the lower and higher layers of both of you will start "fitting" each other.
03/06/16 (Sun) 16:29:19 No. 71928
any good books covering fairy blood
as in people who may have in a way fae ancestor
03/06/16 (Sun) 20:35:24 No. 71938
>>71928
You mean individuals and families, or races like peruvians (high society) and egyptians?
Because there might be a lot to say in both.
03/06/16 (Sun) 20:46:56 No. 71939
>tipp question thread not stickied
Nah, fuck you, Smile Man
03/06/16 (Sun) 22:49:05 No. 71942
Is it normal for entities that are attached to you to scare off people you meet/people you already know?
Lately with this attachment people stop talking to me for no reason even though things were going well. This happens offline or online..
03/06/16 (Sun) 22:56:35 No. 71944
>>71907
could we get this shit pasta banned already, thank you mods
Binaural beats 03/07/16 (Mon) 04:55:03 No. 71960
What experiences have people had with binaural beats? Can anybody recommend a good torrent ?
03/07/16 (Mon) 04:55:45 No. 71961
opened a thread,
reposting the questions here
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how do I get rid of a strong curse / or energy vampire?
4-5 years ago I believe someone very close ( family ) cursed me
ever since I've become mentally and physically weaker and weaker , and I feel i'll
went to lots of doctors, and was told i'm physically fine, but I know since that day, something happened to me,
in fact I knew something big changed that day
from that day on my life turned to shit
everything I do fails, I cant properly breathe or concentrate anymore my mind is racing and im anxious
its like i lost complete control over myself and my life
opposite to that the person of which im sure cursed me, is doing better and better
im also certain as to why I was cursed
i dont believe it was intentionally damaging,
I believe it was done to benefit the person, and make them able to avoid their fears by draining me
i tried everything I could
im very experienced in meditation and had superb concentration before this started
nothing i tried helped
im not religious but i pray everyday and hope for it to stop
it feels like im slowly slowly choking to death
im certain if i cant stop this the next few years it will kill me from exhaustion
please, any help, this is not a joke
03/07/16 (Mon) 05:40:18 No. 71964
What could happen if i tattoo a sigil?
03/07/16 (Mon) 11:27:14 No. 71983
Psychic vampirism, books/recommended reading list?
I wanna steal people's loosh so that I can get into the astral easier.
03/07/16 (Mon) 12:25:30 No. 71985
A few questions.
1. I am in a kinda in a information over load from all of the research. I was wondering if anyone would recommend some practices for my level. I am quite new, but I feel my energy, work with energy centers, did shadow work for like 4 months(and finally came through to the other side), which rocked my calm and confidence so I am ready for something new. Oh,I also have various sigils for various affirmations for specific situations. Plus some telekinesis.
However, I do kinda feel like I am not sure of the progress path from here. I cant really astral, or even lucid. Maybe its some block that I have.
Any tips of what to focus for the beginner + ?
2. What about personal energy management. For example, sometimes I am not sure if I have a lot of energy, of it I am… nervous? Is the goal to always have as much energy as possible? Or if I am going to sleep, do you reduce the activity of your energy centers, or are we always striving to max them out?
Ales 03/07/16 (Mon) 15:00:08 No. 71988
Coffee, aye or nay?
I've read (in kaltem gibson books) that coffee may impede the cleaning of the aura (iirc). So i stopped drinking it, and i don't need it anymore, but i'd like to know your opinions.
Ales 03/07/16 (Mon) 15:01:34 No. 71989
>>71985
T-telekinesis?
Share technique plox
03/07/16 (Mon) 15:45:24 No. 71992
>>71989
Just make a plastic straw, hanged by a thread in a jar horizontally.
It took me two or three months to get some solid results, thats before I got in to this. I was just curious.
So just start doing it and practicing.
I clear out my head with some meditation, gather energy with any way you want, then
1. Visualize it moving in your minds eye.
2. Desire it to move.
3.Will it to move.
As I understand this is the basic demonstration of the as above, so bellow. I sometimes even use my imaginary hand to move it.
Its not hard to do, but its easy to get distracted.
I think its great training for intent and concentration.
03/07/16 (Mon) 16:53:09 No. 71995
>>71938
I was thinking something like with celtics buts any and all suggestions on the subject are welcome
Ales 03/07/16 (Mon) 18:42:07 No. 72002
>>71992
>visualize it moving in your mind's eye
so i just need to visualize it and "charge/open" my sixth chakra?
Anyway, what sources have you read about it?
Some years ago i've read some of kaltem gibson's books, but i never practiced.
03/07/16 (Mon) 19:02:55 No. 72005
>>72002
I don't do anything with my chakras when doing it(or maybe I do, but I am not conscious of it. Actually, should try monitoring them more closely, maybe would boost results). But it might help.
I mean, I did this out of curiosity, so I did not real any literature before hand. So I am not sure of the exact chakra and aura movements happening yet, but it does work, when I do it the way that I described. So the description that I give you is the most practical I can get.
The point really is practicing it and feeling it. But more importantly I think, the practice actually teaches some lasting intent. Because its easy to get distracted or bored or start doubting yourself when you start out. But that is exactly what kills magic. Have to go past that, maintain the focus for extended periods of time.
03/07/16 (Mon) 19:08:12 No. 72006
>>71985
Initiation into hermetics, that's what you need, that's what we all need, now get to work.
03/07/16 (Mon) 20:04:53 No. 72011
is any writing by ephilas levi worth looking into?
seeing as he is heavily praised yet the living definition of armchair occultist i wa just wondering.
03/07/16 (Mon) 20:26:54 No. 72014
Uncle Bearheart'sbacked claims a great secret of magick is knowing how your moon sign (the astral body) influences your magick.
This is what Bearheart says of his moon:
>"Well, I am ruled in part by Pluto, being that I am a Scorpio moon. Pluto astrologically rules the genitals, and the anus.. his underwear was well acquainted to both HIS areas.
Pluto rules the underworld. With the essence of his “pluto parts”, and the garment he sweated in, and his semen leaked out on to , I twisted his boxers into a rope like device, and tied it around a doll, (I wore gloves for fucks sake) that I found sort of looked like him."
I myself am a Leo moon, but have no idea how to leverage this to make my magick stronger. Other than being associated with solar things, I dunno. Perhaps I should try dramatic ritual, like acting?
Can someone provide me some insight, please? I'd appreciate it.
03/07/16 (Mon) 20:27:51 No. 72015
>>72011
I fucked this post all up…
Hope it's legible…
03/07/16 (Mon) 20:46:33 No. 72016
>>72015
please rewrite, can't understand shit
03/07/16 (Mon) 20:46:59 No. 72017
>>72016
also, link of the video where he talked about that ?
03/07/16 (Mon) 20:59:53 No. 72018
>>72017
It's from the GOODS blog.
http://slayers58.rssing.com/chan-26024999/all_p1.html
The article called "READ THIS WHOLE FUCKING THING!!!"
03/07/16 (Mon) 21:06:10 No. 72019
But I found out I am a Leo moon, and this dictates how I should conduct myself to perform more potent magick.
But I don't know how to turn what I know about Leo into practical magick.
In that blog post, Bearheart uses his knowledge of moon to curse the fuck out of some rapist. Not totally sure how
03/07/16 (Mon) 21:17:56 No. 72020
>>72019
That's easy, learn the in's and out's of ritual magick, it's all about correspondancies. Interesting article though.
03/07/16 (Mon) 23:38:54 No. 72026
i have fear. i fear doing rituals because of what can happen to me. i fear entities. when i try to medidate in the dark, i feel like i'm losing my mind control and i start thinking about evil entities.
can anyone tell me how to avoid this? maybe some words about entities are sufficient.
and sorry about the dumb question, i'm just trying to follow this path without many problems and a healthy mind.
03/07/16 (Mon) 23:50:38 No. 72027
03/08/16 (Tue) 00:16:25 No. 72031
>>72026
I'd like you to answer this: Why?
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Look man, entities are the least of your problems. Work on your inner resistances before messing with entities and you'll be rendered immune to their powers.
Having fear is like opening a door into your mind - no, worse, it's like lighting a beacon and calling them.
Start worrying about entities when you actually meet them, when you directly summon them; before that you're most likely polarizing yourself to negative and creating your own ghosts. When you summon a demon lord and forget to banish, then I give you the right to freak out, before that point you're probably just facing your anxiety and insecurity.
03/08/16 (Tue) 01:56:43 No. 72035
>>72031
thank you. it's maybe only insecurity, that's true, but i don't know how to leave this fear behind.
anyway, i feel better now. thank you again
03/08/16 (Tue) 01:57:31 No. 72036
How do you kill an infatuation with someone?
03/08/16 (Tue) 05:56:16 No. 72040
>>72026
>>72031
I'm curious about this actually, what is it about fear that creates these scenarios. Learning about metaphysical horrors just makes it go out of control, what can someone really do in a world that they barely understand in which most people cannot be trusted to know the answer for you. They can try to spend time and cultivate, but when your thrown into the frying pan before you can even get the chance…
03/08/16 (Tue) 22:28:46 No. 72069
>>72040
It doesn't go far beyond "like begets like". Fear of something is akin only to more fears and the somethings you fear.
Learning about metaphysical horrors is not what makes you lose it, is not learning enough.Acquiring incomplete and/or false knowledge about something; that's the real deal with horror.
>>72035
To you, if you fear them, learn more about them. When do they appear, what keeps them far, what renders you immune to their influence.
Fear and carelessness are the greatest enemies of knowledge, so take it easy, know your enemy. And if you really need it, your Higher Self will come to your aid, so basically calm down.
03/09/16 (Wed) 01:59:33 No. 72076
what book in the basics list has exercises that will start training because I've gotten the first three and they seem to cover the basics and then just exercise on developing egohood.
03/09/16 (Wed) 08:57:55 No. 72090
I've been taking garlic and MSM supplements to try to decalcify my body, and I'm looking at getting a K2-and-D3 supplement in the future.
Is there any kind of guide on what to get and what to avoid for decalfication? Am I on the right track? Is there any good way for me to "check" how calcified any specific part of my body is? (eg, pineal gland, specific joints, heart, etc)
03/09/16 (Wed) 13:37:02 No. 72098
What magick do you have to do to get vocals like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK3suOmUXSk
>inb4 effects
1:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aTNl7zeH1U
this guy by far has the most powerful growls i've ever heard
03/09/16 (Wed) 14:33:51 No. 72100
what is loosh? -as understood by this board
the only place i've seen the word is in one of robert monroe's books and i'm not sure i really understood it
03/09/16 (Wed) 17:26:00 No. 72107
So what is the deal with mundras? There seems to a shit ton of variations when looking for info on them.
Is there any reliable source for them?
03/09/16 (Wed) 22:07:33 No. 72119
>>72076
Initiation in Hermetics: has a lot more practical work on other subjects. Remember to go step by step.
>>72100
From Montalk:
Loosh
Another term for lifeforce/emotional/spiritual energy. Term coined by Robert Monroe in his astral voyages where, upon interacting with nonphysical entities, he learned this energy was called “loosh” and that mankind was being farmed for this energy. Same thing as Demiurgic energy.
The crudest type is simply etheric energy, which is produced by all living things including plants. The more refined type is astral energy, the energy of emotion and passion and drive. Etheric and astral energies are not entirely distinct but blend from one type into the other.
Astral energy is released when a being feels pleasure or pain or any other emotion. Only 2nd Density and higher lifeforms can produce astral energy, for 1st Density lifeforms do not have astral bodies only etheric and/or physical. In Far Journeys by Robert Monroe, an explanation is given of earth as an energy farm, whereby hyperdimensional controllers began with plants to produce a low type of loosh and later discovered that more sentient beings produced a more exquisite kind of loosh if made to experience fear, suffering, pain and anguish. Hence the Matrix Control System working as the machinery of the energy farm to harvest mankind of astral and etheric energies through perpetual war, hardship, death, sexual obsession, and other forms of spiritual oppression.
03/10/16 (Thu) 01:01:09 No. 72125
>>72119
Is there a way to be cut off from loosh completely?
03/10/16 (Thu) 01:14:33 No. 72126
>>72036
I'm not entirely sure, as I'm still having the same problem as you. What I've noticed helps is realizing that you are desiring your projection of this person, not them. It will not be like you picture.
03/10/16 (Thu) 01:44:49 No. 72127
>>72125
Not completely, not unless you die… but then you'd just be returning to God, there's no real loss you see, just redistribution. As long as you experience something as a being you're emanating some excess energy; it's not loosh what makes you do things, it's a byproduct, which can be perceived by other entities, mainly though-forms looking for similar vibration rates to their own, trying to prolong their existence. Think of it as heat coming from a running engine, a mere byproduct, but anyway it can be used as a warmer by bees or even people when it's too cold outside. It can even be used to useful and directed tasks, but you grow defenses naturally as you develop, so there's no need to fear.
On the loosh farming aliens and shit… that Montalk guy sometimes goes too far, I wouldn't take that alien stuff he says too seriously.
!/49HvHXCOk 03/10/16 (Thu) 03:47:14 No. 72130
>>71885
I'm guessing they don't hace anything to do with chakras.
>>71895
>>71899
Yeah that's wjy fringechan is better.
!/49HvHXCOk 03/10/16 (Thu) 03:50:22 No. 72131
>>71895
Why the hell would you waste another long effort after the first one was wasted? Just come to fringechan bb (:)
03/10/16 (Thu) 07:19:48 No. 72134
Even the astral dies eventually, right? And The All? I know it's outside of "time" and feels like eternities, but it objectively would end at some point, right?
I think I read about it in Atkinsons work, he said that even though it is outside of time, even The All would go through a deep sleep in which it doesn't return.
03/10/16 (Thu) 07:35:08 No. 72136
Did everyone in /fringe/ leave this board and transcended to another place?
03/10/16 (Thu) 08:01:15 No. 72137
>>72119
I was wondering why the "sex" subliminal messages everywhere
03/10/16 (Thu) 12:07:19 No. 72141
Ok so I bought a book on crystals called the crystal encyclopedia,by one Judy hall. From what Ive read and fact checked it seems accurate but I also know it's a good idea to get a second opinion. Should I keep it or get my money back?
this lady also wrote the crystal bible if that helps any
03/10/16 (Thu) 13:18:52 No. 72142
>>71961
Well I dont know very much, but I can tell you that black tourmaline aka schorl, is a very good blocker of curses. You'll have to cleanse, activate, and maintain it of course.
To cleanse it, since it's not water soluble, you can immerse it in salt water or a few hours.
Then you need to activate it. Just hold it in your hands visualize light all around it and formulate your intention for it. Since its protection you just need to state something along the lines of "protect me from curses" or something like that.
And maintenance is just keeping your crystal in decent condition. When you dont use it wrap it in a silk scarf to protect it from damage and negative energy.
You can also buy multiples and place them throughout your home to help defend against other curses.
03/10/16 (Thu) 18:07:48 No. 72148
>>72127
Is there a replacement for loosh?
03/10/16 (Thu) 18:26:18 No. 72150
Have you ever ran into a question that your ego told you to not ask?
03/10/16 (Thu) 18:43:57 No. 72151
>>72150
Loosh is another word for energy.
Reformulate your question, think about it for two seconds and laugh at the absurdity of it.
03/10/16 (Thu) 20:25:33 No. 72153
>>72151
It isn't the scientific understanding of energy isn't it, So I am asking if there is some sort of exotic spiritual energy besides loosh?
Masturbation 03/10/16 (Thu) 20:53:01 No. 72155
Oh wizards of /fringe/, I have a question that I'm sure has been asked many times but not with the specificity I desire:
How often should I, if ever, masturbate?
I've tried no fap and was able to go for a week. I didn't feel any better, though. Just agitated and unfocused (I actually found fasting easier).The Old Testament and many other holy texts speak of the creative power of sexual energy and what a waste it is to use for momentary dopamine release.
If it makes it any better, I rarely use porn or images to help me. It's all mental, but still an addiction. I've become such a slave to this perverse thought form, that I've even been reduced to releasing myself in bathroom stalls. I want to instead focus that energy on creative works and love towards my girlfriend.
How do I channel my sexual desires towards something useful?
(PS, sorry for the /blog/ post)
03/10/16 (Thu) 21:05:43 No. 72156
>>72134
At some point, when a being transcends matter, can go on eternal lives without an actual death. The ALL cannot die because its not alive, IT IS LIFE. It sleeps tho.
>>72136
https://fringechan.org
>>72137
Because sexual behavior such as masturbation, intercourse, infatuation, etc. release this loosh and direct it upon the object of desire, metaphysically "feeding" it.
>>72148
>>72153
The other energies are prana, vril (the "forceness" of force, underlying principle under just about every force), and the elemental forces with their respective property (fire = expansion, water = contraction, air = movement, earth = condensation)
03/10/16 (Thu) 22:18:19 No. 72159
>>72156
I'm doing energy work for the first time. Rather than starting gradually I go hard and wake up this morning and feel like I have severely injured myself.
My entire right side of my body feels sore. Deep muscle tissue pain. It actually feels like I've worked out.
What should I do? It runs from my leg all the way up to my chest and lungs. (I don't actually work out and don't recall straining myself)
03/11/16 (Fri) 01:26:32 No. 72162
>>72155
find something useful to do and do it like youre fucking it
03/11/16 (Fri) 01:48:00 No. 72163
What happens if i burn a sigil? It's a very simple one, my first tbh.
Should i just put it on a box or what?
03/11/16 (Fri) 03:26:43 No. 72171
>>72159
Probably meditation and some form of relaxation therapy. We have a thread on pain somewhere around here
03/11/16 (Fri) 04:18:38 No. 72173
>>72159
sleep, nothing much, meditation a little. Your body is growing and healing itself. Nothing funky.
03/11/16 (Fri) 04:19:41 No. 72174
>>72153
It actually is. It's just a subtler level, but it's the same thing.
03/11/16 (Fri) 04:46:00 No. 72180
>>72159
Describe the pain. Is it sharp and shooting? If yes, consider seeing a doctor.
If it's dull and aching, then it sounds like Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS, google to compare symptoms) which is when unused muscles releases large amounts of lactic acid. Since your body isn't properly trained in the efficient disposal of this lactic acid, the result is soreness.
However, I've never read about people getting DOMS from doing energy work. Don't want to be insulting, but how out of shape are you?
Possible anecdotal evidence that physical fitness contributes to energy work power and vice versa.
03/11/16 (Fri) 10:42:59 No. 72201
Is there a /fringe/ yoga routine? If not can someone point me in the direction of one ?
03/11/16 (Fri) 12:17:03 No. 72203
>>72126
Yeah I know what you mean. I know it's all in my head and the fantasy would never live up to the reality… but the feelings still remain
03/11/16 (Fri) 13:14:40 No. 72204
Is anyone here good at remote viewing? Can you check if Smiley is dead?
03/11/16 (Fri) 14:58:08 No. 72209
>>72204
Smiley is alive and well, he posted on /4chon/ not long ago and is online on skype.
03/11/16 (Fri) 15:14:03 No. 72210
>>72209
Praise Odin. I would be genuinely upset if he topped himself.
03/11/16 (Fri) 15:22:27 No. 72211
03/11/16 (Fri) 22:00:04 No. 72240
sage 03/11/16 (Fri) 22:29:06 No. 72243
>>72240
You don't farn it idiot, you farg it.
That's some stupid shit fake wizards say to feel cool. I think they are basically being kikes and think you can just steal peoples mana. Everyone who uses that word is basically schizophrenic and haven't cleansed their soul and actually started doing some advanced meditations. These people are self serving retards who have a big reality check awaiting them in the coming years. You seriously think the universe gives a fuck about people who don't believe in some sort of karma system? (INB4 KARMA DOESNT EXIST - IF WE ARE ONE THEN THAT MEANS EVENTUALLY YOU'LL HAVE TO BE THAT PERSON WHO YOU FUCKED OVER. FUCKING RETARD FUCK)
I LITERALLY JUST STOPPED EVERY SPELL THEY EVER DID BY POINTING OUT HOW FUCKING STUPID THEY ARE JAJAJAJAJA
03/11/16 (Fri) 23:27:40 No. 72247
I've read in a few places about something (insight, wisdom, a realm) that lies behind or beyond the senses and imagination. This has become a central curiosity for me. What do I do with this? If it's not something you can see or imagine, how do you end up seeing/working with it? Any resources/recommendations?
03/12/16 (Sat) 00:05:22 No. 72248
do I have to get the whole personal power series or just the one pertaining to desire
03/12/16 (Sat) 00:10:14 No. 72249
Has anyone here ever seemed to have developed a self imposed mental block when it came to researching or reading about /fringe/ stuff?
Because I think that's what happened to me, basically when I reach a rare point one day when I am no longer distracted by other stuff like 4chan or vidya for the time being and could use the time to meditate or just research stuff on lucid dreams and spirituality, etc. I end up putting it off, and I kept doing that until now its become habitual for me to quickly turn my attention to something else, some other distraction be it 4chan, porn, or videogames, whenever I do shift my attention briefly to /fringe/ stuff or even just lucid dreaming stuff.
It feels like I've developed a mental block to it, and am reinforcing a habitual pattern where I put off reading or doing anything /fringe/ related, and go busy myself in distraction again.
It's fucking weird, never used to have it like this before, but I never made much progress in these things before either, but lately as of 3 years now my spiritual progress has been nil, even going backwards than ever before I fear.
Need some help/advice, thoughts?
03/12/16 (Sat) 00:16:59 No. 72250
>>72249
You have to cut out distractions like that slowly. I have been spending more time on /fringe/ stuff than I ever have before. I think the main thing that helped me was keeping a notecard with a bunch of daily tasks to do and check when I do them. Just knowing that I haven't gotten my checks for the day makes me want to go ahead and do the thing I'm putting off.
If you have a white-board that would also work. Just list out a series of abbreviated tasks beside the date and repeat for each day. In the beginning you might not notice much difference, but after half a year doing this, I definitely have improved. I now exercise, meditate, read, etc every day when I used to fall off the wagon on these habits very quickly.
03/12/16 (Sat) 00:26:27 No. 72251
>>72250
I try to do that sometimes, but its hard to keep up with it and trying to force this new habit.
Even though I know that just doing something like meditation 10minutes a day twice daily for now is a good start and better than a week of distraction and mindless internet browsing or porn surfing, it just gets so hard to keep it consistent.
But what's bothering me isn't only that, but the fact that I've done this subconsciously for so long over a period of a year or so - checking out fringe related sites, or lucid dream related sites like dreamviews, and browsing them shortly before deciding to browse them longer later or something, and then distract myself with something else, or whatever, and repeat each time again until its become habit now and have to actively stop myself from doing that, and actually sit down and read the sites and the texts, and it feels as if thats somehow a mental burden.
That's something I really want to stop. But like you said, just keeping track of your progress and at the very least meditating daily should help, and I know that but its hard to keep up the habit even for half a week. And I used to be way more consistent and habitual with my meditation and could tolerate longer sessions than I can now.
And I know that you have to slowly build up to get to that point again, but I feel like these self imposed mental blocks are a huge hurdle to get through.
I should probably do something like not even worry about reading or researching fringe stuff just at least do my daily meditations for a week and by that point I know I'll be clearer headed and maybe somewhat closer to my goal, I can't remember the last time I even meditated for a week straight, always with the distractions, and always with the porn to cut any attempt short.
Damn it feels pathetic.
03/12/16 (Sat) 00:39:50 No. 72254
>>72250
I forgot to say that starting out you might want to only have a few daily goals. You want to make it something you can do every day
I usually have an easier time meditating if I do my daily reading first. I still need to meditate more as well honestly.
Maybe try imposing restrictions on yourself like doing something that keeps you away from the computer.
>checking out fringe related sites, or lucid dream related sites like dreamviews, and browsing them shortly before deciding to browse them longer later or something, and then distract myself with something else, or whatever, and repeat each time again until its become habit now and have to actively stop myself from doing that, and actually sit down and read the sites and the texts, and it feels as if thats somehow a mental burden.
I do this too. Don't be disappointed in yourself, just keep trying to move forward.
Also porn is pretty bad for you. Its hard to do, but deleting all your porn is usually a good idea or at least the video stuff. Just masturbate first so that you can think about it without your dick interfering and decide if that stuff is actually worth watching or keeping on your computer.
Also exercising daily helped me with motivation and sticking to my goals. Maybe start out doing your max number of pushups and do it every day.
03/12/16 (Sat) 00:45:56 No. 72256
Will training in fringe-tier skills help me irl? I'm skeptical of the practical value of the stuff discussed here.
Let's say that I have a profession in the creative field. Would it be possible to enhance this creativity, or augment it?
Or is this board just LARPing
03/12/16 (Sat) 00:54:14 No. 72257
>>72254
>Also porn is pretty bad for you.
Yeah as I've come to realize. A lot of what I describe now is thanks to porn addiction, I put off /fringe/ stuff, spiritual development and meditation for months, even a year, for the sake of porn and it was one of the biggest mistakes of my life, and it happened without my awareness even, I just thought it was natural, then I learned about porn addiction, and slowly came to realize the monumental fuckup I had done.
Just this month I managed 1 week of nofap, and most importantly no porn, and the difference in mental acuity, physical ability, wellbeing etc was incredible and noticeable, but then I relapsed again and its back to habit based patterns, unless I can repeat that success again. Thing is I knew about transmutation as well, but throughout that period of a week without no porn I didn't do any meditation at all, and that led to being unable to control the lust and the habitual thought patterns and relapse happened.
>I do this too
Man, its nice to know at least I'm not the only one struggling with that. I think I should just do more and think less, or rather worry less and just try out with small goals of meditation once per day and then twice etc. Because I know I can do it, but there are still these residual mental blocks, and old habits that interfere when I try, so breaking out of that is what I'm still trying to do.
03/12/16 (Sat) 00:56:28 No. 72258
>>72256
If by fringe-tier skills that enhance creativity you mean meditation then yes absolutely. Visualization practice too is helpful. You can train your visualization skills, and thus help your creativity.
I find I have the clearest mental pictures and visualization right after mindfulness meditation usually.
03/12/16 (Sat) 01:01:00 No. 72261
>>72258
What about lucid dreaming?
I figured that lucid dreaming might help me in coming up with new ideas and visual concepts.
Since I sleep every night, I thought it might be easy to train it.
03/12/16 (Sat) 01:19:21 No. 72263
>>72261
Lucid dreaming even moreso, I'm currently trying to lucid dream as well, I've had little success but the few lucids I've had were amazing. Once you git gud at it and have good dream control and stability you could really let your creativity soar I think.
Lucid dreaming is like the holy grail of creativity for me, moreso than videogames or drawings, because you are not limited by hardware and you don't have to deal with a clumsy or unintuitive UI like photoshop or some 3D programs, and you aren't limited by the bounds of paper and pencil, and struggling to get things to look real and 3D like you do when drawing.
In lucid dreams it all just happens around you, and you can guide it to whatever you want, its the ultimate creative endeavor I think.
Look at pic related, its a painting a cool and creative idea, but all you get from it is the visual idea, and if you use your imagination you might eventually have some idea of what it might feel like, such a surreal scenario, but its only in lucid dreams you will have the full experience and the greatest realization of that scenario, the mind will probably call upon all your memories and sensations of ocean waves and lying in the sand, together with lying in bed with blankets on and try to merge those sensations and memory imprints together to get what this sensation would feel like, and thats only something you can experience in lucid dreams.
I just wish it wasn't so hard to get them, it's not something the average person can instantly achieve or get good at.
03/12/16 (Sat) 02:26:54 No. 72268
>>72180
>If it's dull and aching, then it sounds like Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness (DOMS, google to compare symptoms) which is when unused muscles releases large amounts of lactic acid. Since your body isn't properly trained in the efficient disposal of this lactic acid, the result is soreness.
>
>However, I've never read about people getting DOMS from doing energy work. Don't want to be insulting, but how out of shape are you?
>
>Possible anecdotal evidence that physical fitness contributes to energy work power and vice versa.
You're a really really smart guy! The pain is almost exactly like DOMS. Trouble is, you're right. I don't recall doing any physical work, and I am incredibly out of shape. Embarrassingly so.
Regardless after resting for a day or two the pain has subsided in all but my leg. Thanks for the advice guys.
03/12/16 (Sat) 02:27:02 No. 72269
testing can't post in this thread at all
03/12/16 (Sat) 02:31:48 No. 72270
>>72249
The block is in you. I highly recommend a book called "War of Art" by Stephen Pressfield. I will not help you acquire it, but it will shred this block for you.
>>72247
You too. The realm is mentioned in the book. But the tl;dr is meditate. If you make your mind still and quiet as possible this 'realm' you search for will fart things directly into your subconscious mind.
03/12/16 (Sat) 02:46:21 No. 72272
>>72270
>The block is in you.
I know anon, I know that in a way these are such nonsensical and irrational things, with some basis in reality though due no doubt to conditioning and habits formed that have led to the block, but the block is entirely mental.
I feel like just greater self awareness maybe will help with overcoming it, and that comes with meditation, but its been 2 hours now and I've still yet to just meditate as I told myself I would today for just 10 minutes.
I get so frustrated when I think about how much time I wasted on 4chan or porn distracting myself throughout the day and couldn't even devote 10 minutes to meditation practice, its so shameful.
> I highly recommend a book called "War of Art"
I'll check it out but right now I doubt I can get into any book at all, seeing as how difficult it is for me to get through the mental block of just browsing sites like /fringe/ and reading articles on meditation/lucid dreaming. I haven't sat down to read any books in a long while, and have a backlog already of several fringe related and meditation .pdfs and lucid dream articles and threads on dreamviews, etc, I swear I'll get to them soon(TM).
03/12/16 (Sat) 03:20:41 No. 72276
>>72272
>I get so frustrated when I think about how much time I wasted on 4chan or porn distracting myself throughout the day and couldn't even devote 10 minutes to meditation practice, its so shameful.
This will not help you. I have recently overcome a 4 year long art block myself; Yours is nowhere near severe and hence this advice bears weight.
Do not devote any of your energy to this problem. Focus on the solution. Use the pruning shears or revision to create a future where this block is a distant memory, So far in the rear view mirror it's almost laughable.
Energy can be leveraged. You can spend it fighting against a boulder or reroute your energy to let it pass by you like the wind.
The choice is yours, not mine. But… dude, seriously read the book. You can google the pdf and get it.
03/12/16 (Sat) 04:14:41 No. 72280
>>72263
So lucid dreams are the next frontier on escapism.
Inception's more subtle theme was right. I wonder how it's going to be controlled.
03/12/16 (Sat) 04:21:35 No. 72281
>>72276
Thanks anon, those are helpful words. I'll check out the book as well.
03/12/16 (Sat) 04:22:50 No. 72282
Do you pagans worship all of the gods or just Thor or Odin?
03/12/16 (Sat) 04:26:47 No. 72284
>>72282
>looking at gods in the same sense as christians look at god
Stop immediately.
03/12/16 (Sat) 04:40:52 No. 72286
>>72280
>So lucid dreams are the next frontier on escapism.
Basically, don't believe the hype about VR that /v/ says, VR compared to lucid dreams is like 1960's pong to The Witcher 3.
Lucid dreaming is free too and can't be restricted like VR can in any way, except by yourself.
The only downside is the discipline and effort and time required to git gud at it, but its worth it. You can use it for more than escapism of course but escapism is the main draw, that and an incredibly new way to express your creativity.
03/12/16 (Sat) 05:59:24 No. 72290
>>72286
At some point there's going to be a way to induce lucid dreams without discipline and effort, also probably being able to go from a waking to lucid dreaming state directly. Then if you're able to control information, people would quickly forget that they have a natural ability to induce it on their own.
03/12/16 (Sat) 10:35:54 No. 72297
>>72286
>hype about VR that /v/ says
m8, /v/ shits on VR at every opportunity, what the heck are you smoking?
03/12/16 (Sat) 13:13:04 No. 72299
>>72284
how do you see them?
03/12/16 (Sat) 14:49:10 No. 72304
>>72299
(Double check)
Gods are Forces, not personalities.
Every God in about every culture is an aspect of a set of stereotyped energies depicted in the Qabalah. Even the christian God can be broken down into these forces (in the ancient sources, nowadays concept of God is utterly fucked).
>>72272
With that attitude you ain't going far. You're almost embracing your block. But in this case, the best you can do is striving for the opposite of the problem.
Channel your emotions, focus on Progress, rebel against your mind and body! Don't fear the block; dare your potential. Don't hate the limits; love the horizon.
A little thing that helps me is keeping quotes from the books I read written in small pieces of paper and spreading them in places I know I'll look when I'm distracted: My pencil-case, inside the drawers of my desk, in the nightstand. Of course they're inspiring quotes, I recommend reading "Introduction to Magic" by Julius Evola for some good ones.
03/12/16 (Sat) 18:46:46 No. 72311
Silly/introductory questions here, but:
>(1)
what's the best sigil for banishing demons/negative thoughtforms? If it's the pentagram, then why does it work?
>(2)
Is it safe to bind thoughtforms to chakras while a demon has forced its way into other chakra points of yours?
>(3)
And lastly, what's the most effective way to cleanse your chakras of such things?
>more information
I have two balls of light, one of the violet flame and the other pure white light with fringes of yellow that are bound to my crown chakra and solar plexus chakras, respectively. These weren't made by me, but were given to me by two different reiki masters.
03/12/16 (Sat) 19:56:07 No. 72312
What is one's "higher self," and does it actually exist? I read an introductory psychic self defense text that said your higher self may intentionally open yourself up for attack by negative entities in order to learn a lesson. Does this have any truth?
03/13/16 (Sun) 00:48:54 No. 72321
>>72312
In short, you'll see Higher Self described as God, Soul, Ideal. Your Higher Self is the template that your being is trying to fill, the causal body in the Mental Plane that carries along your Astral, Etheric and Physical bodies to fulfill itself, growing by experience (that we call life in our state).
This Higher Self is the goal of the spirit, and the mage is bound to discover and become It. At the beginning you'll start to idealize this Higher Self, and then you should proceed to become it, transforming yourself with experience and knowledge. The higher self is implicit in many ways, that's why everyone is capable of acts of greatness, but the mage gets a tighter connection to it, which is a huge boon to his growth.
03/13/16 (Sun) 02:06:24 No. 72327
Anyone can recommend a good book about rune and crafting runes? I only have my phone now and it's really hard for me to search.
03/13/16 (Sun) 05:13:50 No. 72334
>>72299
"Gods" are just thoughtforms. They all exist because they receive attention, as does anything you think of until you stop thinking about it. The christian god does exist, and it is a very powerful being (due to mass worship), but it's not THE god that christianity makes it out to be.
>>72333
>$300
Those look so good, but $300? I could probably make one myself for <20 dollars. They're just trying to attract the upper-class "wiccans" that can afford to spend money to feel like better wiccans. What kind of wizard would go out and spend 300 dollars on a hat?
03/13/16 (Sun) 06:03:49 No. 72337
Hi, I wanted to ask about IIH primarily. I had some point that I needed help or some elaboration on since I didn't understand them.
1. kundalini is imagination.
2. root chakra is first card of tarot.
3. and the secret of IIH is will and imagination.
I asked someone outside of /fringe/ about it and his reply was:-
My question:I wanted to ask you on the so called secret doctrine of IIH and how there is a safe mechanism inside of it to keep the "unfaithful" students from practicing the arts. He said about IIH that it was made to "purposefully designed to keep you grinding for years, while the hidden guidance shows the principle to master them in a more efficient way and complementary practices".
"Lol, it is tough to answer not because it is some deep complex mystery but because it is TOO SIMPLE. You could hide the mysteries on billboards across the globe and few would discover them. My blog and this Tumblr are proof of it. I have repeated the secret over and over but many don’t want the answer because it is frightening and yet simple. I once had a student who I made the analogy that teaching magic is much like you and I walking around a barn. We go round and round the barn as I point out all the things that make up the barn. Each time you ponder my examples and never once do you realize it is a barn. Over time, after we cricle about the barn dozens if not hundreds of times, a slow realization dawns to you. You may, just maybe be circling a barn. Once the realization sinks in and you gasp in disbelief at how it was a barn the whole damn time, how I told you again and again it was a barn but you wanted so badly for it to be something else.
The barn is imagination and will. Let us take yet another walk around it."
Any idea, thought, or sort of guidance or even a hint will be appreciated.
I don't know if this was worthy of a thread or just a question so I will post it as a question here then as a thread outside.
tipp 03/13/16 (Sun) 06:09:30 No. 72339
>>72334
wire me money and I'll make you one while I make me one.
>length to lower spine
>brim out of hexagonal wire fence up to back of head to give its a nice bend backwards while swaying
>white lotus/crown brim pattern
>embroided seven chakras in copper wire
>a crystal attached to each yantra at correct height of body as it loops down the back
>rainbowcolor from top to bottom
i'm either embroiding the belly of my brim with some motif or painting something in UV colors. i won't be spending time doing embroidery for you but if you pay for the dye UV paints i'll draw you something cool or of choice.
need enough for wool, copper/iron thread and dye.
>i want one
no more than three people will get to chip in, it'll take a lot of work.
>wool
http://www.wahlmantextil.com/ulltyger/blanda-100-ull-ljus-gra-melerad/
>dye
http://www.dharmatrading.com/dyes/dharma-acid-dyes.html?lnav=dyes.html
03/13/16 (Sun) 07:46:43 No. 72343
>>71862
OP is not the board owner that's why.
03/13/16 (Sun) 07:47:24 No. 72344
>>72333
thats gay as fuck unless your a chick or something
All fringe wizards should strive for intimidating yet refined
03/13/16 (Sun) 07:49:59 No. 72346
>>71895
If you're going to write 2.5k post on something might as well create it as a new thread sheeiiiiitttt.
03/13/16 (Sun) 07:51:16 No. 72347
>>71939
It wasn't formatted correctly.
tipp 03/13/16 (Sun) 09:16:22 No. 72349
>>72344
>>72346
no fuck you both.
>>72344
>>72347
mod can edit that.
>>72344
see >>72339 for practical yet amazing attire for ingesting ravecandy.
>>intimidating yet refined
>this neopyte can't look like a goofball and freeze the atmosphere
its like you can't even make someone casually fear for their life by looking at them like they just called panic at the disco metal, blep.
tipp 03/13/16 (Sun) 09:28:03 No. 72350
>>72344
>All fringe wizards should
#notallwizards #individuality #expressionofself&creativity
If you make "suiting up" a trend for "wizards" you'll ruin my collection of fine suits like atheists ruined fedoras, of which i posses one and can not just use properly but pull off like a baller.
03/13/16 (Sun) 10:35:53 No. 72351
>>72344
>All fringe wizards should strive for intimidating yet refined
Be swole, and get a monocolor one. Right there, intimidating yet refined. Well, as refined as a wizard hat can be in 2016.
I found a somewhat cheap scarf that has a pointed hood in it though, and that's wizard-like and stylish. It's hard to look stylish and still have the wizard-like loose clothing and rags.
03/13/16 (Sun) 12:56:34 No. 72352
>>72351
Why stand out all together?
I for one don't need the thoughtforce of ignorant mundanes screwing up my work with their disbelief.
03/13/16 (Sun) 17:57:49 No. 72358
How do I use the voice of god method in The Book Of Knowledge correctly, I try to chant it over and over but there is still no result.
03/14/16 (Mon) 03:34:41 No. 72380
Hello, /fringe/.
I've been trying to banish a demon for a while, with mixed success. I'm interested in focusing on a sigil that can banish, rather than do the LBRP (which at its core seems mainly to do what I can achieve by merely focusing on blue pentagrams around and encircling me).
Since the pentagram, if accidentally viewed upside down, can do more harm than good, I'm interested in the more symmetric hexagram. I'm a novice at all this, and given my situation, I haven't had much time to read texts regarding the matter.
>tl;dr
Are hexagrams a more potent sigil for banishing, and can they be imagined floating around and encircling you to achieve the same end a pentagram would?
>color
If so, what color should I imagine them being? I read blue for a pentagram is good as it makes it easier to elicit your higher self by activating the throat chakra.
>tulpas
I have two tulpas that have hid away from all this. I want to know the likelihood of their being corrupted, and if making another one with the explicit intention of banishing this demon is a good idea, given the chances of corruption. I read "local spirits" are really good at this.
What in the hell would happen to me in the afterlife if a part of my soul, that is a tulpa, buds off and becomes corrupted? How could I correct this in this current life before all goes to hell?
Since the demon has been using the threat of corruption as a scare-tactic, I'm inclined to believe the actual chances are negligible.
03/14/16 (Mon) 05:38:05 No. 72388
>>72380
Maybe try the GOODS LBRP.
03/14/16 (Mon) 08:24:09 No. 72395
>>72388 (checked)
that or a huge energy surge charged with the intention of purging entities
03/14/16 (Mon) 14:29:01 No. 72399
03/14/16 (Mon) 17:27:43 No. 72406
Bearheart says that the tree of life is a holy symbol that has been corrupted, or otherwise repurposed.
Is it the Hebrew necessarily, or what? Can the Etz Chayim still be a holy symbol with Hebrew names?
Does YHVH/Demiurge have any integral place in the Qabalah?
03/14/16 (Mon) 17:40:49 No. 72408
>>72388
>>72399
Thank you so fucking much. I had been looking for a non-Jewish LBRP for so long. I had been trying to guess which planets align where based off of other's guesses as to which planets correspond to which chakras, and so on.
Does anyone on /fringe/ know of a good method to cleanse chakras with sigil magick? The hexagram isn't necessarily Jewish, right?
03/14/16 (Mon) 19:32:27 No. 72414
I'm about to create a Sigil to seduce a girl i know (and with whom i interacted).
I want to know what kind of sentence i should use. My purpose is to create a strong love relationship. Not just sexual.
For example, i thought about this sentence: "I am engaged/tied/whatever to the girl that i love", which translates (italian, since it's my first language) to: Sono impegnato con la donna che amo.
What do you guys think (besides that i am a freak)?
03/14/16 (Mon) 19:57:23 No. 72415
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03/14/16 (Mon) 20:04:17 No. 72416
>>72415
wew lad, atleast tell what we're doing wrong
tipp 03/14/16 (Mon) 21:10:13 No. 72417
>>72414
Sure, what could go wrong?
[Spoiler]>monkey parts everywhere [/spoiler]
03/14/16 (Mon) 21:33:34 No. 72419
WILL DONALD TRUMP MAKE /FRINGE/ GREAT AGAIN?
03/14/16 (Mon) 21:45:37 No. 72420
>>72415
If you wrap a rose quarts in the leaf from a plant that's been watered for a week with holy water then stick it up your ass your asshurt should go away.
03/15/16 (Tue) 00:40:14 No. 72423
Will calling upon the sigil for mars incite the god himself if I bind it to my root chakra?
What if I used the rune for Tyr–are they the same god, or different thoughtforms?
I thought for a grand total of two seconds and the sigil appeared in my mind's eye to act of its own accord by turning red and spinning, so I take that as an excellent sign.
03/15/16 (Tue) 02:09:36 No. 72424
Anyone know of other communities besides this one? It has its gems but it's pretty low-traffic. I realize that a lot of this stuff can be private, but I'm looking for the community so I can relate my experiences and not feel as alienated from the people in my life, who seem pretty complacent about everything they are.
Also, I contemplated the Zen koan "Who is dragging this corpse around?" and now have access to an interesting state where I don't perceive a distinction between the "self" in myself, in the trees, in other people, but my practical egocentric consciousness remains intact, albeit without much consciousness of thoughts. A few seconds of contemplation draws me into this state. Any ideas on where to take this further? Things I can learn from this state? Things to experience while in it?
03/15/16 (Tue) 04:35:59 No. 72428
tipp 03/15/16 (Tue) 04:36:17 No. 72429
>>72424
Sorry to bury a bullet in your gut but this is pretty much the only place for practitioners of the art that doesn't suck cock and with the way image boards are in their nature people just aren't prone to chill with each other, that said, the reason you lack discussions company is because I make up about three thirds of the posts, I'm schizophrenic and juggle conversations, questions and answers to fill space, and I don't want to talk to you because youre a plant.
03/15/16 (Tue) 04:40:25 No. 72430
>>72424
This board is the best you're gonna find at this high of traffic. Any more traffic and this board would devolve into /r/occult tier garbage.
Quality > quantity, and it's really one or the other.
>>72429
>plant
I wonder if the FBI comes to /fringe/ in hopes to get in on that dank meme magic.
03/15/16 (Tue) 06:53:37 No. 72433
>>72414
Look here retards who want to bring magick to the masses, this is a prime example of what mundanes will use it for.
>muh spiritual evolution of the race
>muh knowledge should be free
lmao
>>72429
lel, you forgot to split your post into 4 separate ones for no particular reason.
03/15/16 (Tue) 07:02:48 No. 72435
>>72433
that gif made me want to watch KLK again, at least up till episode 16, after that it gets really shitty and out of hand tbh
03/15/16 (Tue) 07:04:28 No. 72436
>>72433
Knowledge SHOULD be free, but at this moment, it would be best if it was not.
I hold the same belief towards fascism. It's not good, in fact, it's the opposite of where we should be, but it's what we need to get people sorted out. By not giving people occult knowledge until they're sorted out, we can save our species.
Do not give away information outside of this board. Do not promote "meme magic".
"The lips of wisdom are closed,
except to the ears of Understanding"
03/15/16 (Tue) 07:09:36 No. 72438
>>72436
>Do not promote "meme magic".
That's out of anybody's hands, and its becoming a popular phrase on /pol/ and /tv/ too for obvious reasons.
03/15/16 (Tue) 07:11:10 No. 72439
>>72435
I don't know which episode it was but imo it went downhill when Ryuko went edgy biker mode and went off collecting bits of her uniform.
>>72436
Agree 100%, well said.
Knowledge, Courage, Volition and Silence are the four pillars of the foundation upon which
rests Solomon's Temple as Bardon said, too bad so many people ignore that last one.
03/15/16 (Tue) 07:16:18 No. 72441
>>72439
Haven't seen it in awhile so I cant remember, to me it went downhill as soon as the beeg tweests starting happening, especially the one in Episode 16.
Then the shows shifted from intense comedic action and fighting between Ryuuuko and the Student Council, to all that other bullshit and the convoluted thread that was the plot.
2meta4me
03/15/16 (Tue) 07:30:26 No. 72442
>>72441
>Then the shows shifted from intense comedic action and fighting between Ryuuuko and the Student Council, to all that other bullshit and the convoluted thread that was the plot.
A lot of shows do it for some dumb reason, remember when Naruto was about an underdog kid becoming the very best through sheer effort and not by the merit of being a dumb mary sue chosen one?
Me neither.
mint 03/15/16 (Tue) 07:35:21 No. 72443
I'm about halfway done with reading Jack Donovan's The Way of Men, which describes masculinity as being comprised of four basic survival virtues–strength, courage, mastery, and honor–as what it means to be a man among men. I looked at that and thought about the first four circuits of Leary's 8-circuit model of consciousness. On deoxy, there's a page on "winning scripts" for each of the circuits, and the winning scripts for the first four circuits are essentially the tactical virtues of masculinity.
I'm at a point where I want to work on re-imprinting the first four circuits for practical purposes. I see a critical and balanced emphasis on masculinity as a structured as well as socially functional way to work with the first four circuits.
Do you have any general thoughts? What are the most important resources for working with sexuality, or masculinity in particular? Blind spots or pitfalls of my approach? Is balancing myself out by cultivating some feminine qualities without neutering myself a worthwhile endeavor as I move forward?
03/15/16 (Tue) 08:09:00 No. 72446
Can someone tell me about personality change/overhaul? I'm interested in both the psychology behind it and the occult perspective (and how to achieve it through magickal means for a neophyte). I'll just add, I'm looking for intentional changes rather than unintentional results from general practice
03/15/16 (Tue) 09:32:13 No. 72451
What is the fringe opinion on ADHD and Ritalin? I got diagnosed and put on Ritalin at the beginning of the year, and I'm in awe with the results. Before I couldn't function at all, I could never focus enough to read a book all the way through (tried reading the Kybalion like ten times but never made it all the way through), and my home was an unsanitary pig sty, and I couldn't hold down even the most simple of fake government-made jobs, and my memory was so bad I was worried I had brain damage or something, but now I feel like I can do anything I want to. It feels like a thick fog has been cleared from my mind. Am I a good gullible goy for big pharma, or can I use my medication and diagnosis to my advantage, or does any of this even matter? I've managed to do meditation somewhat frequently, and I've had some pretty amazing experiences with lucid dreaming, but I never had the discipline to do anything more advanced, until now.
03/15/16 (Tue) 14:45:33 No. 72465
>>72446
Read Prometheus Rising. Then come back with questions.
03/15/16 (Tue) 14:50:14 No. 72466
>>72451
Short term solutions. Eventually you will build up a dependence, actual and psychological, and be a subject to chemicals.
I would try to use your script as sparingly as possible with the intention to wean yourself off, either on doctor's orders or your own, in the very near future.
Seriously, this shit will make you into a zombie in the long term. I would treat it with as much respect as any hardcore stimulant. Just consider that Ritalin (methylphenidate) is just a few molecules off from being methamphetamine.
03/15/16 (Tue) 14:58:25 No. 72467
>>72465
>bullshit occultism - the book
03/15/16 (Tue) 15:06:00 No. 72468
>>72443
completely useless "just b urself :^)" post incoming
Consider that every piece of literature that's "written from the soul" is the author's interpretation of what "truth" really is. This means you can read someone's truth, accept all of it as truth, some of it as truth, or none of it as truth and then integrate what the author has written into your life.
For instance one could agree with Donovan on strength, courage and mastery, but since one is also a sociopath, he dismisses what Donovan said on honor entirely.
Don't be limited by other people's systems but rather take the good ideas and implement them in your own.
As for also integrating feminine characteristics, consider reading up on gods that were hermaphrodites (meaning symbolically they possessed both male and female characteristics). Ardhanarishvara would probably be the most interesting in your case.
03/15/16 (Tue) 15:07:34 No. 72469
>>72467
Anything else you want to add?
03/15/16 (Tue) 15:31:54 No. 72471
>>72468
honor is complete nonsense
tipp 03/15/16 (Tue) 15:42:05 No. 72472
>>72466
>meth bad
Lel
What is dangerous is the few molecules other than meth.
Anon, ask for 5 mg meth pills, rural will rot your brain, meth give desired and current results while being completely harmless, see for perhaps a hard time going to bed if you popped two extra for a night out.
tipp 03/15/16 (Tue) 15:45:30 No. 72473
>>72466
And no round the clock use, only when you need it to get off your ass.
03/16/16 (Wed) 01:57:39 No. 72491
I can't pay attention to anything. I can't think deeply about any 1 subject anymore. I feel like my mind has been drugged, and that I am going through my day like a robot who only acts and never thinks. It physically pains me when I realize it, and then my mind drifts away without even me knowing. How can I stop this? I want specific things, like meditation, diet, sleep, I'm clueless, I just don't want this to stop. I want myself back, if I ever was myself.
I have read Fringe Knowledge for Beginners and The Kybalion, but haven't incorporated any magical/occult aspects into my life.
03/16/16 (Wed) 02:29:44 No. 72492
>>72472
I didn't say meth was bad, like most things if respected, it can't harm you. I was just trying to say that one shouldn't look at a script of Ritalin like a bottle of aspirin but rather like a bottle of meth.
A stat I saw said that 90% of the world's prescription painkillers are eaten by Americans. I really can't think of a reason why we're being sedated. It seriously can't be just for profits right?
03/16/16 (Wed) 02:37:20 No. 72493
>>72491
Turn everything into a game. Have no moments where you aren't playing some made up game to amuse you.
Try adding up all the numbers on every license plate you see. When that gets boring, look at a random person and try to hypothesis what their life story is (as if you were going to write a screenplay about them up to that point), or look at any random object, even plants, and try to think about that item's journey up to where it is right now, including how it was made.
It may sound dumb, but doing this is like opting to do 100 pushups rather than eat a tub of ice cream, but for your mind.
03/16/16 (Wed) 02:46:48 No. 72494
>>72471
I disagree m9. Keep in mind that honor properly defined is more like virtue in the Roman sense, not like a weeaboo with a katana honoring all samurai or how we use it to define military duty.
03/16/16 (Wed) 03:03:06 No. 72497
>>72495
Then you aren't aware of what Roman life was like for the powerful aristocrats since slaves, lowborns and most foreigners couldn't have virtue. They were extremely competitive and in no way were bound by today's definition of an "honorable" person. I think you're confusing honor with morality.
Give the wiki page a read, it's a decent primer.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtus_%28virtue%29
03/16/16 (Wed) 03:05:27 No. 72498
>>72497
There is no such thing as virtue or honor for winners. Winners don't win with honor and virtue. These things are burdens. The art is to hold up apperances and burden the honest people with honor/virtue. Don't be so oblivious. I don't even care about Rome. It might as well be a fairy tale.
03/16/16 (Wed) 03:10:49 No. 72499
>>72498
You are confusing morality with what I am talking about, and subsequently what Jack Donovan was talking about.
Nowhere in my post did I say that being virtuous means being an honest person. You'd be surprised to learn that they thought exactly what you just typed. Stop using the modern definition of virtue for 30 seconds.
03/16/16 (Wed) 03:13:08 No. 72500
>>72499
>ou'd be surprised to learn that they thought exactly what you just typed.
No, I wouldn't be surprised.
03/16/16 (Wed) 03:19:26 No. 72502
>>72499
Nobody thinks of virtus upon the word "honor". It still doesn't change the fact that it's silly. It's just yet another social bullshit where you need to adapt.
>You'd be surprised to learn that they thought exactly what you just typed.
No, I wouldn't. And that defeats the entire purpose of its existence. It's a construct of lies.
03/16/16 (Wed) 04:00:49 No. 72505
Why shouldn't one make a tulpa? I read that it's like "enslaving" a portion of your soul and that "it'll end up trying to kill you," or that it's "basically a poltergeist."
Do tulpas accompany you when you pass away into the astral, since they're a part of your soul?
I personally wouldn't mind being a tulpa myself, and I'd imagine it'd be super fucking intimate to be bound at the soul with my loving creator, and I think most tulpas agree.
If this means no more incarnations, then who cares! I have my friends with me!
Something tells me though this is poor for spiritual development, however. But some things, I believe, precede that.
03/16/16 (Wed) 04:33:08 No. 72506
>>72502
It's not a construct of lies, but a collection of rituals practiced by those of a higher caste than most. So instead of stabbing each other in the streets like plebs, they agree to apply that bloodthirsty energy towards something greater. It's the difference between killing someone you are competing against in the most earthly nature versus a more divine competition.
03/16/16 (Wed) 07:15:33 No. 72511
>>72508
That's right. If you decided not to "be a dick" and end up in that bottom panel, you'd still get stabbed.
Not to say you should be stabbing people randomly because "honor don't real", but if someone's going to stab you, don't back down.
03/16/16 (Wed) 08:19:04 No. 72514
>>72508
ebin strawman
there's no objective metric for morality, but sure most people would like to live in a society where they aren't assaulted or robbed so we call actions that cause harm "immoral"
03/16/16 (Wed) 11:01:38 No. 72518
>>72511
People in civilized societies look out for one another so they don't wind up stabbing each other in the back. If you want total freedom from morals and a structured society, why don't you go to Africa?
This "social bullshit" like honor is what makes communities great and keeps people trustful of one another. The point of that image was that if people adopt this attitude that everyone will do anything to get ahead, trust breaks down and you wind up with a community where people don't even help each other anymore. By putting your own needs and wants over those of your community, you're betraying the people that provided for you.
03/16/16 (Wed) 12:04:47 No. 72520
03/16/16 (Wed) 14:07:15 No. 72524
>>72505
I'm starting to get the impression that there may be nothing wrong with having a tulpa but rather those who have negative experiences with tulpas don't exactly lead emotionally stable lives.
Thus negative entities are able to influence the tulpa more greatly than directly influcing the actual person, so they distort the tulpa and really harm the user in the process.
If one is able to lead a good life while transmuting negative emotions then there really shouldn't be an issue, hypothetically.
03/16/16 (Wed) 15:58:03 No. 72526
How can I learn how to effectively create, charge, and use sigils?
03/16/16 (Wed) 16:55:18 No. 72528
>>72526
I recommend reading the first bunch of chapters from Advanced Magick for Beginners. It describes all that stuff better than anywhere else imo and its really easy to read.
03/16/16 (Wed) 17:27:09 No. 72530
I know significant part of the board have been living on juices from fruits and/or vegetables for a long time. Are there some do's and dont's that you discovered over the time?
Generally it all comes down to good/bad combinations. Some are good, some bad, do you have some kind of list for this stuff?
Supposedly:
- supposedly taking fruits in liquid form confuses the fuck out of body and the juice should be held in mouth for a while so that the body recognizes what the hell you're putting in it
- sweet, half-sweet and sour fruits shouldn't go together
- melons is a whole separate group
- apples and bananas are special cases and different rules work on them
- when drinking fruit juice it should be preceded by taking at least one small bite of the respective fruit
- half of the good stuff, including fiber, is missing from the juice
- a lot of foods, including eg. kale shouldn't go with white/green tea
- list goes on
03/16/16 (Wed) 17:56:35 No. 72531
>>72530
I'm skeptical on fruits. They're basically nature's candy.
03/16/16 (Wed) 19:10:12 No. 72534
>>72531
unlike candy, most of them are composed of over 90% water and fiber
03/16/16 (Wed) 23:35:34 No. 72545
Wait tips on "being a wizzard" plz
03/17/16 (Thu) 00:23:54 No. 72550
I still can't find any good book about runes. All i see is new age bullshit.
They're so hard to craft as some people say? They really need the geometric golden ratio?
I want to craft some, because i don't like any other physical magic item.
03/17/16 (Thu) 00:46:43 No. 72554
>>72530
consume monomeals, i.e. 6 oranges or apples, as you said dont combine sub acid, acid, melons, or sweet fruits together, buy organic only (most fruits get sprayed like hell with poison) and don't use any chemicals to wash them so you consume beneficial bacteria, don't overeat (you should feel like you could do some sprints or a weight workout right after you finish your meal), the only vegetables that you should really consume are salad greens (vegetables low in indigestible cellulose), consider doing a 3-4 week water fast once per year to accelerate detoxification and healing from decades of abuse cause by standard dietary practices
03/17/16 (Thu) 01:50:30 No. 72559
>>72545
>don't masturbate
>try out different diets for spiritual shit
>either download the books recommended or buy them
>don't be a faggot
>don't associate with wiccans at all or choas wizards until you've master the basics
03/17/16 (Thu) 02:11:05 No. 72560
>>72550
Just to update, i've found a book about Galdr and verbal rune.
It's not what i want, but still pretty steresting.
Galdr – singing or reciting of magical chants. This practice is based on the Knowledge of the Runes, which explains the division of the Nordic magic into seidr and galdr. Today, that would signify ritual music through specific laws of rhythm and harmony. Using poluphony was always a trait of magical music (let us not forget Christan chorals). It can also be achieved by saying the names of the Runes in a particular way – by vibrating.
I was thinking about make a "sigil" rune and charge it with verbal rune magic, what you guys think about it?
03/17/16 (Thu) 03:06:03 No. 72563
>>72534
And I can get both water and fiber from other sources. It's the sugars and carbs (or to your body, sugar) that I have a problem with.
03/17/16 (Thu) 05:20:34 No. 72566
What happens to good/experienced wizards when they die? Is there a reincarnation? Is there an ascension? What are the mecahnics of either of the two possibilities?
03/17/16 (Thu) 06:32:02 No. 72570
What's /fringe/'s view on pedophilia? Why is it wrong in a magickal sense, and what happens in the afterlife to pedophiles?
03/17/16 (Thu) 06:57:23 No. 72571
>>72570
hahahahaa
Dude, we're not christians sheeps. You do what you want, the only judge is your moral.
03/17/16 (Thu) 07:49:58 No. 72575
>>72571
YEAH M8 lets ruin childhood just because "DO WHAT THOU WILT"
Sucking infant life power HMMM SO GOOD, NO MORAL COMPASS FOR ME I AINT NO WEEKLIN
03/17/16 (Thu) 08:05:10 No. 72577
>>72575
He asked about afterlife, your idiot.
03/17/16 (Thu) 09:05:43 No. 72582
>>72577
fact of the matter is, the only judge is god. not "your own moral"
who r u
wo the fuk are you! im a nyc school graduate sucka! and school of visual arts!
03/17/16 (Thu) 10:02:40 No. 72589
>>72582
So, what's "god" and how can he judge you?
Visual arts. kek
03/17/16 (Thu) 13:07:33 No. 72595
>>72554
>food synergies
I have various good quality white/green tea leaves. When I drink it 30 minutes after a meal, it almost always causes some bowel movement. It makes me wonder whether it's even a good thing. Does it simply force all food I ate out or what? That would be fucked up, to waste so much food. I hope it just cleanses the bad stuff. White tea gives me heaviness in solar plexus area and I never know how to interpret that shit
03/17/16 (Thu) 15:07:30 No. 72599
>>72595
>White tea gives me heaviness in solar plexus area
Have you considered it might be indigestion?
03/17/16 (Thu) 17:56:04 No. 72605
>>72599
Oh fuck
>Symptoms of indigestion may include upper abdominal fullness
I thought the heaviness was caused by moving the diaphragm down as I started exercising true breathing. The fullness/heaviness is in the diaphragm area. I guess I'll put the tea away
03/17/16 (Thu) 19:25:36 No. 72609
>>71916
>what you need to is to get in trance but not to send spirits to manipulate her energy to direct to yours, but to simply dissect her energy and yours and become completely aware of the relation they stand in. you need to become fully aware why you love her and why she doesn't love you. once you know that, you'll NATURALLY connect to her in a way she'll love you back because she'll subconsciously see you fit in her. you'll get in the social flow and start talking to her and in minutes the lower and higher layers of both of you will start "fitting" each other.
I wanna use this to stop loving someone. I mentally dislike this person but I seem to have to work with her.
>>72263
>I just wish it wasn't so hard to get them, it's not something the average person can instantly achieve or get good at.
as a kid my sister told me to control my dreams and i instantly did.
want it hard enough and it'll happen in a day
>>72272
get a physical book
03/17/16 (Thu) 21:12:29 No. 72613
>>72589
god is everything
and your fate is really a matter of what you believe
03/17/16 (Thu) 21:29:15 No. 72614
>>72518
Very good post.
>>72566
Atkinson says that you'll go through the death process as everybody else, but you will wake up after your deep sleep.
>>72570
I don't see how this is relevant to magic, but there was (and possibly are) "satanic" groups that molest children. /x/ has more info on this.
I don't see how it is wrong in the magickal sense besides invading free will, and there's no "consequences" in the afterlife like christianity leads you to believe. You may suffer for invading others free will, but nothing you can't escape if you truly understand what you've done.
>>72582
"God" does not judge, he simply is. The only "judge" is the laws of the universe, which are biased towards nobody. See my post above for more analysis.
>>72613
>people calling THE ALL "god"
03/18/16 (Fri) 01:37:39 No. 72624
>>72613
I know, the blood guy does not…
Really, if anyone here think that god is the old guy who sit on a chair and choose who goes to "paradise" and "hell", please, get the fuck out of here.
03/18/16 (Fri) 01:47:18 No. 72626
>>72595
Caffeine stimulates contractions in your stomach and intestines, that's why it makes you poop. You said you have indigestion here >>72605 , so the caffeine in the tea forces out the shit stuck in your colon. Eat more soluble fiber and less (or not any, if possible) processed foods.
03/18/16 (Fri) 02:51:59 No. 72630
>>72614
>but you will wake up after your deep sleep.
Elaborate, I didn't read his book on reincarnation.
03/18/16 (Fri) 03:58:29 No. 72631
>>72630
I also have not read that book, but I believe the following is what he explains in The Arcane Teaching
>die
>astral body hangs around for a bit
>you enter a deep sleep
>you live through every possible scenario of your life in a dream state from worst to best
you either
disintegrate and your matter is put back into THE ALL and reused (not reincarnation, death)
or
>you achieved enlightenment either during your lifetime, during one of your dream scenarios, or from divine intervention from a higher being before your sleep
>you wake up from your deep sleep and live within the astral
I have also heard that you can reincarnate after death if you are enlightened, or if you already were capable of it (you chose to reincarnate. I think you'd know due to having natural power over your personality)
03/18/16 (Fri) 08:00:41 No. 72635
>The Seven Cosmic Laws. March 1931. (Published posthumously in 2011)
I want to read this book, it's probably the very last one Atkinson wrote. Does anyone have a copy? Link?
03/18/16 (Fri) 12:42:04 No. 72642
>>72635
You should read The New Psychology Its Message, Principles and Practice by WWA instead.
03/18/16 (Fri) 20:16:52 No. 72657
>>72631
>possible scenario of your life in a dream state
from what I read I though it meant you live out all of your baser desires to the fullest then dissipate once you have exhausted your desires.
unless of course you desired a higher idea and reincarnate to fulfill it.
maybe I'm wrong but just my interpretation
03/18/16 (Fri) 20:41:36 No. 72659
>>72657
That sounds more accurate, now that you mention it. If you did live through every possible scenario of your life, you'd be enlightened in at least one of them. But if it's based on desires, and mundanes never desired to achieve enlightenment, they wouldn't achieve it.
03/18/16 (Fri) 21:41:53 No. 72661
>>72626
>Eat more soluble fiber
I'm getting contradictory information about beans, legumes, nuts and seeds. Do they contain soluble fiber or not?
So you're saying heaviness in upper stomach is okay and I should just eat more soluble fiber?
I don't eat processed foods at all, but I always do eat stuff like wholemeal bread or nuts, even peanut butter, which seem to have unsoluble fiber…
Possible Revision to the Rules ## Board Owner 03/18/16 (Fri) 22:57:51 No. 72666
1. No duplicate threads of topics that already exist unless the previous thread has hit the bump limit.
2. Actually present substantial information if you're going to make a thread.
3. No creating new threads purely to no-effort shitpost (you will be forgiven if it's a major GET).
4. Post threads that fall under the subject matter of /fringe/ (creepypasta FYI generally does not fall under /fringe/'s very broad subject matter, look at the sticky to see what subjects we discuss on /fringe/).
5. Make requests for books, material, etc. in a pre-existing thread (such as a requests/libraries general or the question thread or any other thread).
Should I add in this rule 5?
Should I change rule 2 to this new rule, or would that make it impossible to post some threads that are quite alright?
Should I remove rule 3 if I change rule 2 to presenting substantial information or will people find ways around this?
I am considering adding in rule 5 after seeing this shit thread: >>>/fringe/72593
03/19/16 (Sat) 00:17:06 No. 72670
>>71865
I could but I need to get a method downpat to check out what your sigil even does, what intention it was made for, before I go charging sigils like yours at random.
>>71870
Use the sexual energy consciously and purposefully. You are lucky and fortunate to have such a massive build-up of energy. Now try running up all that nerve-force through the various centres of your body and invoking the correspondences and repurposing the energy towards whatever you want.
>>71872
It will if you don't have any kind of sexual stimulation long enough.
Around you right now are all these thoughtforms or to be more specific what Franz Bardon would call "larvae". They have formed around you automatically and correspond with the emotions you've felt throughout your day and a little from the previous days and so on.
Depending on the strength of the emotions and the general astral-environment you are resonating on right now and what kind of neutralizing currents might be present, they will last a couple hours to a couple days, typically.
Eventually though, you will observe (if clairvoyant) that they give way to other stuff and die off. The sex-charged thoughts will fade away without sustenance and you will have thoughts of sex impressed into your mind at random a lot less.
>>71873
Me personally, I'm strong enough to commit to anything, and actually carry it out. Porn can't break me. It won't even arouse me if I am determined that it shall not.
Practice Raja Yoga. This will strengthen your will greatly to endure and resist anything. Eventually you won't feel that you are resisting anything, everything is too easy, nothing holds power over you, your thoughts and feelings are deliberate and willed.
>>71876
One easy way to break this cycle of lust is to just fap to nothing everytime you want to fap. Then try and will yourself hard again like an hour or two later and fap again. Fap yourself into a state of total boredom with fapping. Repeat as many times as needed and avoid porn.
You may also want to combine this though with a long period of constant exposure to pornography but don't do anything. Just look. Eventually you become desensitized and don't react.
In a more advanced stage though you can rapidly turn on and off and control in very fine detail all these aspects of sexuality.
>>71882
Not remembering in the morning? The only way I can tell I'm asleep is that everything is more real and vivid than the physical plane. I'm fully conscious on the astral all the time.
Holding onto energy creates blockages I have found. Trying the stifle the river… oh it can be done but it's rarely a good idea to do this. What one ought to do however is to consciously direct the flow of the river.
Concerning sexuality and the orgasm, we ought to take it one step up at a time, into its higher and higher phases. We may transmute the desire to fap into a desire to fuck a succubus, and from a succubus the desire for an even higher expression of sexuality, and so on and then entirely away from that which is generally recognized as sex, until one is free to direct their energy to any creative purpose whatsoever.
>>71883
Fapping to porn should be at best a temporary thing, to build-up oneself to the next stage, wizards should not be cucking themselves with porn when they can do so much more.
>>71885
You're going to have to define "angel" first, it's one of that those terms that means a hundred different things to different people.
>>71895
>tfw no /fit/ chaotee GF to give the D after working out really hard and going through the IoT curriculum with
This thread was created as a stickied thread btw, you seem to think a pre-existing shitty thread was made into a sticky.
>nobody is going to get to read that either because as I got done I wanted to be absolutely sure that the thread was indeed locked so I promptly clicked send and closed the tab to reopen it to see if the text really wasn't posted, and guess what, it wasn't!
Why don't you write everything in text editor and also save your notes as you make them? That's what I do. In this way you get a large accumulation of notes and you don't lose anything with 8chan goes full retard.
03/19/16 (Sat) 01:34:31 No. 72672
>>71897
Just a term used long ago for some class of entities. It doesn't really matter who they were. If you really want to know, you're going to have to develop a technique to get information out of the past, and to test that information is accurate, and then focus on the original authors from long ago that wrote about the nephilim, and learn from them what they were. If you're big into history you might do this… but otherwise I don't see the point? Chances are that whatever the nephilim are, they're probably still around, under a new/different name.
>>71907
I need more details about what you are trying to do. I don't really want to help you but I also know that even if I tell you exactly what to do, you won't be able to do it without first developing yourself in ways that, will probably make you drop your infatuation and decide upon a more noble path to work your desires upon.
I read through all the evocational shit, there is a goetic spirit for this you could use, and the several other evocational practices that have pantheons of spirits all usually have at least one spirit archetype that details with love-related stuff like that.
You do not really need to know any of that though. You can literally just do the following:
1. Designate a space in which you want to work, clean it, remove all distractions, burn incense and follow the incense with the imagination intending it clears out the air on the physical, mental, and astral planes.
2. Equip yourself with robes and other implements if you have them and they have been blessed, enchanted, etc. as needed if you want to be extra prepared. If you need to know how to do blessing, enchantments, imbuing, etc. see IIH or just ask me.
3. Have a very clear intent beforehand, your demands should be written on the best paper you have, carefully; and you must visualize the paper and the words for hours until you have an exact astral copy of it which overlaps the physical copy. aka know what you want
4. Start filling up a smaller area in with white-light or a basic form. Intensify it, vibrate it, make it swirl, etc. whatever is needed to make the light grow stronger in filling up the area. Alternately tense and relax as you release emotions and intent into the thing. Call up the spirit into the form, letting it abide within it, and shape it further to a proper form.
5. Present your demands and begin bargaining with the spirit until you both agree on something.
There's lots more to consider as far as protections, different variations of the above steps, what is a good deal to make, how to gain the respect of the spirits and present yourself with authority, etc.
If you want to simplify it:
>just look at any clearing
>concentrate some kind of imagined fog there of any colour you want and intensify your emotions
>shape it roughly into a form corresponding with what you think the entity should look like
>wait for the details to fill in automatically without you thinking about it, this expectation/intention will cause it to happen
>pretty quickly you have a spirit before you
>start talking with it and trying to learn from it, get it do things for you, etc.
>usually they just want loosh to do things for you
In your case ask the spirit to teach you about mental influence and love dynamics and to procure or direct you to any material, be it astral/channelled books, or books in this world, to help with that process, as well as have it straight up talk to you and show you things and teach you.
You may also want to look into cultivating personal magnetism and developing yourself more so that you become irresistible to pretty much all people. The more things you have to draw in others, the more everyone will love you.
Also if you can get a person to hate you or pay any kind of attention to you really, it's not so hard to transmute those feelings and redirect their attention in way that makes them fall in love with you. Whatever you hate you are in great danger of falling in love with; and vice versa.
03/19/16 (Sat) 01:34:56 No. 72673
>>71928
You should be able to find what you're looking for in here: >>>/asatru/9731
https://mega.nz/#F!fIchVA7Y!owKwAgGKq9pgXrbVOnkeag (now added in the sticky also).
…or in The Temple of Solomon: https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ
>>71942
Some entities will do this. Sometimes it's because of how they change your aura and thought atmosphere in general so you no longer resonate with the same people as before, sometimes they are protecting you from shitty people, sometimes the entity is jealous and doesn't want to share you, etc. lots of different things happen.
>>71960
I have listened to hours of binaural beats, at various volumes, with various headsets, and done lots of different things with them. They did nothing at all for me, in all cases, and I suspect they probably only work on people of lower consciousness such as those that don't know they dream or who have weak imaginations or who are especially easy subjects for the kind of entrancement where their own soul is displaced temporarily and a different entity takes over and they have no recollection of what happens. In other words, I think binaural beats, if they work at all… work best on people who are underdeveloped. I haven't found a practical use for them, they don't seem to influence me at all.
There's lots of binaural beats on youtube and some of the libraries also have it, just look through some of the really big libraries, and search for mp3 or other file extensions to do with audio or video.
03/19/16 (Sat) 02:24:50 No. 72674
>>71961
I need to write up a whole thread to address your question and also want to do a little more research but I can still answer you from what I know already which is a hell of a lot.
Most curses mind you happen in an automatic, unconscious fashion; aka peoples attitudes and thoughts about others and the suggestions they give and so on can undermine them and do all kinds of damage. They don't have to make a conscious effort to curse you. They might just get obsessed with you and imagine lots of things and keep hitting you with certain emotions and stuff the end result being that you are effectively cursed.
For now though I recommend you read Max Freedom Long - The Science of Miracles which you can find in the >>>/fringe/ library. It teaches you both how to curse and how to protect against curses. Look at the examples given and from that deduce the principle and then work with the principle to create your own solution.
There are many ways to be cursed (suffer from negative mental influence, atmospheres, attachments, etc.) and to protect against the same.
>>71964
Nothing if you don't then imagine the sigil onto you or it doesn't grab the attention of others who then imagine it in their minds, create associations, and so on resulting in various effects.
If you tattoo the sigil and use the pain from doing so to reach trance state where you imagine the sigil and then begin programming it with the pain energy you're feeling using intentions and stuff, you can have a pretty powerful sigil on your body, that can do all manner of things.
Anything can be a sigil and some sigils are designed to be obscured so the intentions and purpose sets into the subconscious where it undergoes further mentation there undisturbed by the conscious mind.
Easiest way to set this into motion is through a state of confident expectation concerning your sigil that is held for whatever duration feels necessary until it's set and you can turn your conscious mind to other things.
>>71983
It's very easy, tense yourself up for a moment and project thoughts to other posters while writing things, then relax again and be like a sponge that receives whatever comes back. Get a huge shitposting folder like this one and practise on boards like >>>/4chon/ and then go raid other boards with high concentrations of easily emotionally aroused people.
You can also mentally shitpost at people offline too, that's what all the gain-stalking and "crazy voices in the head" and so on shit is about, just keep projecting your thoughts at others with more and more intensity and then soak up what they respond with.
There are more advanced loosh farming techniques but they can kill people and if any higher intelligences be they human psychic adepts or whatever happen to detect you and find out what you're doing they are likely to get really mad and #wreck you.
There is a certain degree of energy vampirism that always happens in any interactions between people and you may read up on it in the last chapter of arcane formulas and in some of the other books by Atkinson. Mind Power should cover it.
You should also try to understand the very nature of energy and how it works, there's a chapter in Dynamic Thought that should help you, and you should also read Desire Power which is a section within the Personal Power book.
Food also is a source of loosh, eat well. The air too. Read up on Hatha Yoga and The Science of Breath or Vril Power .
Accessing the astral is easy, what particular way do you want to use the astral though? Anyways, a very strong desire and the basic formula given here: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html (“Earnest Desire—Confident Expectation—and Firm Demand—these form the Triple Key of Occult Attainment.”) should do you fine.
03/19/16 (Sat) 02:29:27 No. 72675
>>72674
https://mega.nz/#F!qlgUCZxD!l5MB38_2eYMk7fgT-RZJeg
Forgot to link this for the one anon into psychic vampirism.
Note you can also draw upon the energy from each image in there like a sigil. If you post it lots and people feel lots of feels towards it and recognize it well, it becomes a large energy reserve you can meditate upon and draw energy out of as needed, just don't deplete any of them too much or it will cease to have the usual effect on others, and besides each image can be invoked and used in different ways besides being a mere generic energy reserve.
03/19/16 (Sat) 04:27:31 No. 72680
Anyone know any applicable Wizardry for Self-Defense/Combat/Strength
Some time ago I remember reading about some guy being able to inject people with a black substance that devoids them of all confidence/strength.
Berserkergang is another.
Anyone else got any cool ideas/techniques? i fucked up and made a thread for a question, and someone advised me this is the correct position.
03/19/16 (Sat) 14:19:05 No. 72690
Is it effective to simply charge the idea of the project that you are working?
Lets say I have project X. Would simply charging the main concentrated idea of it be enough for it to gain more momentum? Simply sending extra energy to it? Or do I have to go in detail about it?
Also, what is the threshold of energy sending? There seems to an idea of charging something like a sigil, and then forgeting it. How is this forgeting related to ongoing projects? Or should it only be used for single time events?
03/19/16 (Sat) 14:51:51 No. 72691
>>72680
learn invisibility
they can't beat what they can't see
03/19/16 (Sat) 16:03:54 No. 72693
Did anyone raid a temple in egypt last night to meet a woman who gave immense truths with a rag tag gang of initiates from all walks of life?
03/19/16 (Sat) 18:51:06 No. 72700
I'm new to sigil magick, and I was wondering if it's a good idea to use a straight astrological symbol for banishing entities. I read the GOODS LBRP and it looks like they call upon the energies of Venus and Mars especially (the heart and the sword) to eradicate demons/foul spirits. So would it be wise to charge the sigil of mars or a union between the two (think the unisex symbol) with the intent of destroying a stubborn entity that just won't go away?
>tl;dr
Will sudo rm -r -Venus -Mars /demon jus' werk better than a custom sigil/bindrune?
03/20/16 (Sun) 05:26:48 No. 72716
03/20/16 (Sun) 05:52:44 No. 72720
>>72693
>bla bla bla
shut the fuck up
03/21/16 (Mon) 02:23:23 No. 72815
How do I develop contentment with the present?
How do I stay in the /now/?
03/21/16 (Mon) 02:50:17 No. 72818
>>72670
I don' remember, so.thing about getting laid
03/21/16 (Mon) 02:54:02 No. 72820
What does /fringe/ think of Ophiel? I got his book on AP and it's badass, wondering if the others are worth picking up.
03/21/16 (Mon) 03:34:44 No. 72823
>>72491
Try practicing all day awareness, helps with lucid dreams too
03/21/16 (Mon) 03:35:20 No. 72824
>>72693
No I don't play MMO's tbh
03/21/16 (Mon) 13:59:46 No. 72906
What is the go-to book/resource for Astrology on Fringe?
Like, true OG astrology. Not this nauseatingly new age shit.
03/21/16 (Mon) 14:04:22 No. 72907
>>72815
Have your phone remind you hourly to stat present. Or use a watch. Leave notes, repeat affirmayions like "I am present. I will contiue to be present." or whatever resonates with you.
03/21/16 (Mon) 17:30:53 No. 72923
>>72906
astrology has always been shit
03/21/16 (Mon) 17:37:27 No. 72924
⛧Mad⛧Scientist⛧ 03/21/16 (Mon) 20:51:57 No. 72930
soon i will be starting college to learn Information Technology im going to go into cyber security, whats some good incantations/rituals/suggestions to power up my desire to learn it and integrate all this knowledge into my mind?
i know alot of you guys on here are college dudes
03/21/16 (Mon) 22:29:01 No. 72943
>>72930
I'm in my second year of college. So far it hasn't been anything too difficult and I haven't needed to use any of that stuff to remember it. After all the schoolwork I still have more free time than I ever did in high school or working a job.
Just study and do your work and you should have no problem.
03/22/16 (Tue) 00:15:57 No. 72952
sage 03/22/16 (Tue) 01:05:17 No. 72955
>>72952
You maggot, take the time to ctrl+f "loosh"
>>72119
>>72127
>>72151
03/22/16 (Tue) 05:16:44 No. 72969
>>72674
>They don't have to make a conscious effort to curse you. They might just get obsessed with you and imagine lots of things and keep hitting you with certain emotions and stuff the end result being that you are effectively cursed.
im pretty sure this is whats happened in my case
the vampire is using it to feed their own energy need and just attached to me and im not disciplined enough to get rid of it because i get manipulated every time I try