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>>72736

We need some war and bloodshed OP, some events to stir up the psychic conditions, and increase the energetic supply.

This is why I'm starting to worship Mars and I've been trying to mental influence Trump so he, unintentionally or otherwise, starts a great big war.

This mass-anhedonia, stagnation, emptiness; it is worse than pain. It's just a slow grind that makes degenerates out of people.

…and I don't know what to do OP. The biggest disappointment for me also is trying to work with people from /fringe/ and finding out they don't read the books and they have some paranormal experiences and are able to into the lamest most weak magick but are utterly taken aback when I btfo with my far more intense magick.

I get most of my loosh from food. Everyone around me is dead inside and everyone is ALWAYS strongly attracted to my energy but they take without giving back. I want people to circulate the energy around. Instead everyone is jewish about their energy and we have a situation that is akin to everyone having money but nobody wants to spend any of it so the economy is at a near stand-still.

Even just one closed-loop community of highly emotional wizards could create conditions of rapid advancement for all.

I am always using up my energy to very great extremes, every type of loosh I have, and I'm utterly exhausted, but I've sworn to keep pushing forward even if it kills me, so I'm constantly sore and in pain and gutting myself emotionally pursuing whatever magickal operations I obtain the conviction I can carry out.

Do you want to maybe do something with me OP?

It doesn't help also that the culture is emotionally supressive. People should get mad, cry, laugh, go mad, love, etc. without holding back.

Let me put it this way:

Consciously directed intense flow of emotions > unconsciously directed emotional over-excitation > emotional suppression such that one dampens their emotional nature and becomes stagnant

There's also a difference btw between a building-up of emotional pressure that is "suppressed" vs a killing off of desire/emotion such that your emotionality becomes so weak you can barely power up any thoughtforms or do much at all.

It's like we live in a world where there is no enemy so you have to fight yourself and give yourself lashes self-cannibalizing your own energy. You try to beat someone else, typically, they will not even fight back in any way and will just take it. They're too afraid.

Most men now are lower than animals, for they don't feel the intensity of the animal passions, nor develop into an expression of the higher emotions man is capable of.

Mundanes cannot be converted by outside forces. The truth sounds truly insane to those unaccustomed to it. You may try to demonstrate the truth to them through the abilities you've picked up in your studies, only to find that they will find a way to justify it through what they know, or push it out of their mind as it scares them.

"THE LIPS OF WISDOM ARE CLOSED, EXCEPT TO THE EARS OF UNDERSTANDING"

A piece of wisdom from a replier to my post in the questions thread.

>Knowledge, Courage, Volition and Silence are the four pillars of the foundation upon which rests Solomon's Temple as Bardon said, too bad so many people ignore that last one.

>>72738

You say you are powerful, yet you desire war and bloodshed. I do not doubt your power, but I would advocate you meditate on this issue more. War and bloodshed will not solve anything, it only distracts mundanes and wastes more lives.

I have been putting off my studies and practices for a long time for a mundane life, and your post has inspired me. Thank you for this.

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> what did you just do

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> oh god

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> i feel totally helpless

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> then agfain im shaking all over

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> i only half believed you were powerful at stuff

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> its happening agaaijjn

>>72744

>torturing mundanes

Have mercy, man. You're not going to enlighten him, you're going to make him fear you and never want to think about it again.

>>72744

Instead of this leading to the beginning of a successful magickal partnership in which I could further practise my art and get reliable feedback, it just lead to the two things it always does that ( >>72742 ) mentions. Namely,

>the mundane will rationalize it away even though the explanation they come up for it is retarded and unsound upon closer examination and if they would just follow through with the occult explanation they would understand that's how it ACTUALLY is done and works

>or they accept you are powerful but become fearful of you and want you to do no more

In this case, it was the second, as I was able to tell them obscure details about stuff happening around them in perfect detail, in addition to other things.

>>72742

I will write up an extensive post then on the necessity of all things and why we need to accept danger, war, bloodshed, etc. and how everyone's lives are being wasted by a world that doesn't challenge people and allow them to grow.

>>72746

I torture people with intense pleasure.

OP here.

>>72738

I've thought the same thing and come to grips with it, but it's a rather horrible thing to have to endure, even if it's to be expected in this density. I think that it could cause change and make people yearn for something more in their lives that religion can't give them, but then again, it's mostly a hope. A hope I have, and one which I can send massive amounts of energy toward, but a hope nevertheless because things here tend to deal with themselves and intervention can often bring more harm than good in my experience. I find myself in a similar position with people trying to absorb loosh from me unconsciously but I'm also learning how to prevent them from taking it without my consent. I too want my energy to circle around but people don't use it to influence their own production, they just feed off of it and then are upset when I'm unwilling to give them more, like a parasite. As above, as below, and the same is happening to my higher self, but as you, I know that standing my ground is the most important thing. I myself have been giving all my energies to my work, one very powerful work in particular, but in order for it to work I *need* the energy of others, freely shared through emotional attachment to the work.

I'm also aware how many people who might come here might do so in some sort of esoteric self-searching or self-validation, that's why I phrased the question how I did.

And it would depend on what exactly you need help with, finally.

>>72739

So, if you were me, what methods would you use to manipulate them into feeling deeper without using "chicanery," to make it happen, other than giving free loosh?

>>72740

It's simply due to higher densities trying to extract far too much energy, which has a similar effect to deforestation.

>>72742

I've dealt with this first-hand. My good friend killed himself over revelations of higher self and infinite truths. I felt responsible for a long time for his death until I realized I may have actually liberated him from his addictive cycle.

I keep my…capabilities to myself, and I make no big deal of them to the uninitiated. But, being able to perceive the trapped higher self in third-density beings is a painful sight. If they could only perceive of what this world could be, I feel like there could be real and tangible change.

>>72746

This is what I mean by not using abilities to influence others…it causes them to break down both mentally and spiritually, which is a painful sight.

>>72747

I find trying to communicate the state of mind where you let the third density take care of itself alienates many, even the non-mundane.

There needs to be love back of everything. We actually live in a fear matrix and ironically the best way to get out of it is to go back to the heroic attitudes of the ancients and not to embrace the propositions of present day people that strive for "peace" (aka stagnation/slavery).

First of all, it must be noted that the majority of men today are motivated by fear, and have an issue with attachments.

They see the expression of fear as the thing to be avoided and want to minimize fear through aversion. The proper attitude is to embrace fear, letting yourself feel it, until the fear is exhausted or transmuted. You should not identify with fear and never use fear as the basic motive behind all your life.

They see attachment as well in the wrong way completely. They have a fear of forming attachments and a fear of losing what they are attached to. The proper attitude is become attached and to love and to look forward in a sense to the pain of losing what one loves. The pain is the pay-off, the compensation, the expression of love. Opposite of love is a numbness, an unfeelingness, indifference.

If one has nothing to sacrifice they have nothing to gain. Every trial endured, every loss, should be felt vividly and embraced. You do not actively strive towards self-destruction but you welcome and permit it in the way that a soldier accepts the dangers of world and if he is truly a great soldier then on the battlefield he lives vicariously and with the most profound appreciation for life in the face of death. Everything that dies gives way to new life, and this applies also on the emotional (astral) plane, and the constant turn-over of life and death is fertility; it begets more life where otherwise there is a slowing down and a decay.

Let us take a step back mentally from our lives and consider them as plays. Where is the meaning in a life that was reduced to constant numbness? To strenghten the will to life, life must be threatened, we live in a society of anti-depressants and suicidal ideation, and the cure to this is to find our natural enemies and wage war upon them. To appreciate the enemy and his role and be proud to have fought him. We should thank God for having provided us with a world in which we may fight, and die, and have a chance at proving our courage. The same man that thinks about killing himself every day, whose relationships are meaningless, whose work dulls him, etc. is reinvigorated when there is a great threat to his life. We need to accept the poetic beauty of loss and of our deaths and hope that we live and die in a beautiful way. We should yearn that we do not pass from this life without having experienced a great drama. We should yearn that when we die, others shed tears for us, and feel intense feelings cocnerning our passing. How sad it is to live long enough and in such a way that you see everything you love come to reject you and abandon you, and you feel your mind running down into a fuzzy vague state, and you never want to get up and do anything again, and you know that if you are to die now it will mean nothing to anyone. Conflict, drama, etc. is the cauldron which strengthens the soul.

>>72752

Now getting back to the fear matrix. Fear is the basic motivation for how the average man lives his life today. He is always trying to avoid things, always forced to act because back of his actions is fear. Fear in this way dominates everyone and in every way, it's there when they try to form relationships and have the fear of rejection and condemnation or so many other things. All this fear is constantly being energized and is manifesting. The society we live in is largely a manifestation of myriad fears.

Fear is connected to ignorance and lack of understanding and it falls away from the mind of a man of higher consciousness. It is replaced by the feeling of love back of everything. Gradually or suddenly, the only peace that truly matters unfolds in the mind of man, and that is the one where he finds himself completely at peace and in harmony with God's work. He is ready now to actually live his life and to die when the time comes, and he looks forward to every part of it, and nothing weighs him down anymore.

To illustrate a few examples of putting love back of things not associated with love here are a few:

There is the cult of Ebola Chan which is the love of disease, death, and sickness. The Ebola Occultist Adept uncondtionally loves Ebola Chan and appreciates her work in this world and looks foward to her love. He would not be at all upset to be taken by it and brought to his death.

There is the love of Mars which is the love of conflict, bloodshed, heroism, etc. The Adept of Mars does not necessarily aim to die in battle or to have his people destroyed but he would be sad for sure is his enemies were not seemingly greater than him, if they were not "worthy of him", and able to grant him valour. He may fight and fight, always aiming to defeat his enemies, and having no fear of a man who might finally end him.

Probably everyone here has had at some point in their life felt the love of Happenings and fantasized about an apocalypse. It's not without reason that so many of look forward to a great reset like that, some great event that finally frees ourselves from our inhibitions, and lets us become free in the struggle to survive.

There is also such things as the love of Health and the fear of Sickness. There is the man who eats well because he fears and there is the man who eats well because he genuinely appreciates quality healthy food.

You can put fear back of absolutely everything and you can put love back of absolutely everything. When fear is back of everything, the whole of life is a very depressing affair indeed. When love is back of everything, life is profoundly beautiful, every part of it, all of it. If you want to grow close to God you must do as God does; God permits everything. God loves everything. Even the things which seem not to be of love, they could not be without the love of God back of it.

The good kind of suppressed emotion is the kind of emotional pressure one feels actually building up that you know is going to burst through intensely whereas the bad kind of emotional suppression is the one where one grows disinterested and feels a fading of willpower and desire.

The man who is "want to suppress his emotions" who is so overwhelmed by them that he feels they rule over them often makes comments that he wishes he didn't feel anything at all. It's a very stupid wish. He should instead wish to feel just the same intensity but in a more directed, controlled, wifull manner.

You are lucky if you are the kind of man who feels constant swellings of emotion and the pressure thereof. Just learn to utilize it productively and you are golden.

Weak-desire is stiffling.

>>72751

I have given away so much free loosh lately as an experiment to see how it effects me on the astral with the idea that emptying myself out will make me like a sponge for more but after months or years of observation and reflection I am noticing that for myself and for any other subject I am working with, rapid personal growth comes about when there is an actual cycle/turn-over of energy between us, and absolutely nothing but a temporary "uplifting" or "emotional high" for the one person and nothing at all for me but a feeling of deadness if it's just one-way.

It's like, even if you have a small amount of energy you're circulating at first, as long as it's kept in circulation it gathers more energy to itself and reaches a very high intensity.

Problem is that whereas I am willing and comfortable in very high states of consciousness and to stay operative at that level, everyone else so far I do this stuff with nopes out of it before me, and then refuses to go any further. The worst thing is watching someone obtain satisfaction from these experiences and then going back to living their life doing mundane shit often completely abandoning magickal/spiritual work. It's like they just wanted confirmation it's real and they got it so they no longer care whereas I don't want to just know it's a real actual fact but I want to actually keep pushing forward to the even higher attainments that few men ever get to. A lot of stuff that is extremely easy and basic for me, there still lots of people who feel like their life would be finally complete if they could pull it off once, and I want to make the stuff that absolutely amazes people now to be trivial compared to much more advanced stuff I'm aiming to do.

>>72751

>I find trying to communicate the state of mind where you let the third density take care of itself alienates many, even the non-mundane.

I don't advocate being passive in the world. You should be active and passionate within it, contributing your creative power to it, and manifesting waht you want in here. It's just the switch must be made from fear-back-of-everything to love-back-of-everything and the determing factor as to what actually manifests then will be simply what you give your attention to. Being in meta-love at once with opposite polarities is no problem and gives you an incredible power over the thing. Fear on the other hand tends to lead to a lose of control, it seems to be "out of your hands", and you are submitted to whatever comes, with no ability to influence your fortune or loss.

Just a thougth that has popped into my mind now; the richest men in this world love money and fear no losses. They rebound from loss and rebuild their fortunes. They have a high tolerance for risk without being stupid in the way they manage their money. Rich men are metaphysically empowered by the particular expression of love they feel; though love may be deficient in other aspects of their life somtimes with the consequence they fail to achieve success outside of their primary focus.

mfw I realize that one oft-quoted saying "there is nothing to fear but fear itself" is one of the most bluepilled suggestive-programming going around today.

There should be no fear back of fear, no fear of fear. Fear with love back of it becomes something more like a thrill. Fear with fear back of it becomes a crippling and unacceptable fear. Fear with love back of it is energizing and empowering; helpful. Fear with fear back of it leads to a total loss of control and not the type where you temporarily lose control in a passionate way that is a kind of wilful voluntary submission.

Fear of love creates a deficiency of love and love of love creates an abundance of it.

Omran (Sandcoon) ♂ ☻ - Today 7:30 AM

> Before the eyes can see, they must be incapable of tears. Before the ear can hear, it must have lost its sensitiveness. Before the voice can speak in the presence of the Masters, it must have lost the power to wound. Before the soul can stand in the presence of the Masters, its feet must be washed in the blood of the heart.

Hey loose farmer guy, have you got an email I can contact you at?

Wouldn't music, poetry, or art tap the loosh of others?

>>72757

>>72758

Very insightful posts my man! The idea of subverting fear through love is in tune with ancient teachings, such as the socratic concept of everything being born from its opposite, and especially concepts of duality as envisioned by Empedocles, with Love and Strife as the fundamental forces of the universe. In light of the wisdom of the ancient greek mysteries, this transmutation of Fear into Love might just be the basis for the Great Work, the philosopher's stone itself.

>>72757

Speaking of programming. Since I've become aware, many things I used to enjoy, I see they have etched horrible patterns into my neural net. How many neurons are devoted to building that terrible wall? I'm not even sure what the feeling I so enjoy is. Catharsis? Common suffering? "It's not your fault"? It sure as hell isn't the music.

>>72785

I suppose I should appreciate how blatant it is. It's just the betrayal of everything is overwhelming. My mind and senses all trapped in these memes without realizing.

What a stupid thread. Really.

If you have this kind of mind, you're more stupid than any "mundane". Go fuck yourself with a baseball bat.

>>72788

Why such aggression? Care to elaborate?

>>72789

This is not the first time i hear this kind of shit, someone calling herself "powerful".

You're not better than any "mundane", you're just living the life in another way.

Like a hippie thinks that he's better than a capitalist pig, just because he lives free of material things, and then he's free. But a capitalist pig thinks that he's better than a hippie because he can have any material thing want, and that's happiness.

>>72790

>thing want

he wants*

>>72790

>implying all things are equal

>>72792

On your mundane life, yes, they are. If you became a god, then you come back here and say you're superior to us.

>>72795

That's an awful lot of assumptions you have there. Have you any reasoning for these claims?

>>72796

The same that OP have to think that he's better than mundanes.

>>72797

Then what, pray tell, is your argument? You call the OP out on the very thing you become later on.

>>72798

What? No, sorry, maybe you misinpretated what i'm trying to say. I apologize for my bad english.

What i'm trying to say is: you're not better than anyone, i'm not better than anyone. If you like to farm loosh, that's fine, do it, but dont't think that just because you made someone fell bad, you're superior to him. That person can be better than you in a lot of things, even mundane things that you need to use in your mundane life. Someone that learned agriculture, medicine or whatever, will help you to live. We are here at our body because it's a transition to next step, no matter what this next step will be, you need to live as you want.

Don't think that you're better than anyone just because you play with ouija only to fulfill your ego.

>>72799

Ah I see, sorry for the misconception. I respect your viewpoint, but on a fundamental level I must disagree, some people are just sordid, contemptible trash, and to assume that they merit the same respect and are of equal worth seems all together too permissive. I don't enjoy toting around my superiority like an arrogant fool, and if I had such authority I would enlighten them all myself, but some paths are not equal to others, and ignorance is sinful. I do not mean to deny the importance of fields such as agriculture and medicine, but to make equal things that are not is far too lenient and, to me, wrong.

There is a god in every single man on this planet, and if one is unwilling to come in touch with their own divinity, they are inferior in my eyes.

Loosh Farmer Anon is ONA-Adept.

The Hard Reality of Satanism

ONA 1991eh

The hard reality of Satanism is that it is very different from both the media image and the more recent image pedaled by imitation Satanists in both Europe and America. I. What Satanism Is: a) Satanism is a quest for self-excellence, involving real danger, real challenges and requiring real courage. It involves taking your body to and beyond its physical limits of endurance. It involves real action, alone: without the support of friends, comrades, lovers, relations or anyone. It involves accepting challenges - physical, psychic, intellectual and triumphing solely by one's own efforts. It involves the triumph of pure, individual will and desire. b) Satanism is, in part, an Inner quest, an exploration of the `hidden' (and overt) aspects of consciousness: a dis-covery of the darkness within and beyond the individual psyche. This involves 'magickal acts' - such as rituals. This magick, however, is a means, not an end. c) Satanism involves ordeals, both physical and magickal. Those who are suitable triumph; the others fail. [One such ordeal is the Grade Ritual of Internal Adept - where the candidate lives alone and isolated, bereft of everything except the bare necessities for physical survival, for a period of three months.] d) Satanism requires the practical experiencing of all moral limits, and then a mastery of the feelings, desires, pleasures, terrors, pains and so on that these imply. e) Satanism involves the individual defiance of all subservience: a Satanist accepts guidance only, and refuses to be dominated or intimidated by anyone. This guidance is toward practical experience, and it by this experience that the novice learns and develops a genuine Satanic character. f) Satanism involves sacrifice - this is a necessary test of character [qv. the MSS, "Satanism, Sacrifice and Crime - The Satanic Truth", and "Satanism - The Sinister Shadow, Revealed" for more details.]. g) Satanism is a means - a method, or way, and the purpose of this means, method or way is to produce a specific type of individual: the next stage of our evolution as a species. Satanism is thus an expression of evolutionary change - on both the individual level and in respect of `societies' and 'history'. The individuals so created often inspire in the supine majority a certain terror/awe/admiration/fear/jealousy. h) Satanism is elitist. It does not compromise - its tests, ordeals, methods and character-building experiences are severe and will never be made easier to make them acceptable to more people or easier to undertake. i) Satanism is esoteric by nature and intent: it is both a 'secret' way, by virtue of its methods etc., and it is not nor probably will be suitable for the majority for many, many centuries. II. What Satanism Is Not: a) Satanism is not, nor can ever be, a religion, nor just a 'philosophy'. A religion means acceptance of authority, the rigid structure of a 'Church' or a 'Temple', and a unified dogma (with the consequent schisms and claims to authenticity). The religious attitude is the antithesis of what Satanism really is - for Satanism is a way of living, a way of experiencing, in the raw, whereas religion abstracts, limits endeavor, behavior and moralizes. In short, a Satanist plunges into reality, without any supports (moral, psychic or human) whereas a religious person has that reality prescribed by dogma,

authority and such like, and is supported by a `Church', its members and their attitudes. Satanism is an ecstatic affirmation of existence - a taking of existence into new and higher realms, as well as a plunge into existing darkness and the creation of new darkness. b) Satanism cannot have anyone impose upon it any structure, authority, or institution of any kind by claiming a 'dark mandate' or some kind of 'revelation'. There can be no such thing as an, infernal mandate' of whatever kind because the only thing that really matters to Satanism is experience, its accumulation and the highly individualized learning that results from such experience. A genuine Satanist, for example, confronted by an entity which exhibited all the powers attributed to Satan would not even accept what that 'entity' said and would most certainly not show any submission - instead, they would a defiance, a reasoned assessment of what was said, and then a judgement made from experience. A Satanist never surrenders to anything - and would rather die, proud and defiant, than submit. This applies even to 'Satan'. If and when a Satanist accepts guidance, it is from someone of experience who has explicated Satanism by their life and thus who can offer advice based on that experience. The aim of Satanism is to create willful, characterful, defiant, unique individuals who have or can fulfill their potential as gods - it is not to create followers or sycophants. An `infernal mandate' implies sycophancy. c) Satanism does not involve discussions, meetings, talks. Rather, it involves action, deeds. Words - written or spoken - sometimes follow, but not necessarily. The ideal candidate for Satanism is the individual of action rather than the 'intellectual'. By the nature of most Satanic actions, they can seldom be mentioned and thus remain esoteric. The essence that Satanism leads the individual towards, via action, is only ever revealed by that participation which action is. Words, whether written or spoken, can never describe that essence - they can only hint at it, point toward it, and often serve to obscure the essence. Satanism strips away the appearance of 'things' - living, Occult and otherwise by this insistence on experience, unaided. What is thus apprehended by such experience, is unique to each individual and thus is creative and evolutionary. Discussions, meetings, talks, even books and such like, de-vitalize: they are excuses for not acting. A Satanist will sometimes use such forms as he/she may use the form of a Temple - to enhance and/or provoke experiences. But they are then actively manipulating, actively creating experiences - the others involved are being used by that person. That is, there is only one Satanist at such gatherings (usually) - the others may believe they are 'Satanists', but they are deluded. d) Satanism does not apply moral absolutes to real-life situations and forms. This may best be explicated by two examples. First, politics. Satanism does not affirm or deny any political forms or type of politics - it does not, for example, announce that 'fascism and Satanism are incompatible'. Such announcements/pronouncements arise from a moral bias and a lack of insight into both Satanism and `society' and thus Aeonics. A Satanist, concerned with experience, may use a political form for a specific purpose - the nature of that form in terms of conventional politics and morality (such as `extreme Right- wing') is irrelevant. What is important is whether it can be used to (a) provide experience of living and the limits of experience, and/or (b) aid the sinister dialectic of history. Thus a Satanist may become involved in, or set up, an organization of the extreme Right - this is dangerous, exciting, vitalizes, provides experiences `on the edge' and should thus aid the development of the character and insight of that

Satanist (1) <http://www.nasz-dom.net/mars/hard-reality.html> . What is important, is that this involvement is done for an ulterior, Satanic, motive: what others think and believe about such actions is totally irrelevant. Anyone purporting to be a Satanist who criticizes such an action, whatever the political hue of the group/organization, reveals by that criticism that they are not Satanists - but rather, moralizing curds lacking in insight and real Satanic understanding. The second example concerns the formation and use of Satanic 'Temples' and groups by a Satanist. A Satanic novice, in order to gain experience of magickal rituals and people manipulation, usually forms a group to perform Satanic rituals The people recruited are for the most part used - and the novice often assumes a specific Satanic `role' for this: the role of sorcerer/sorceress. He/she may dress in a certain way and so on, as he/she may use fables to impress and/or manipulate. This, however, for a genuine Satanist, is only a stage - and one which lasts a year or two. After that, experience and mastery of ceremonial and hermetic magick gained, they move on to new challenges and experiences, as all good Satanists should. Further, the individuals of this 'Temple' or group are not Satanists, although they may believe themselves to be - they are simply being used to afford the novice pleasure/excitement/experience and so on. Had any of them any Satanic character or potential, they would rebel to undertake their own quest by forming such a group/'Temple' and experience the limits of themselves. Sometimes, the group has another aim - an Aeonic or suprapersonal one, in which case its life may be extended. But whatever, genuine Satanic guidance by an Adept or Master/Mistress to a novice always occurs on an individualized basis, never within the rigid and constraining form of a 'Temple'. Thus, there is not nor can be any constraining rules applied to the conduct of such 'Temples' and groups - there is no 'moral code', no bounds which cannot be overstepped. The rules, such as they are, are made by the Satanic novice according to their desire and goals. That is, they can do with that group and its individuals whatever they desire to do and no one - not even the Adept/ Master/Mistress who may be guiding them - can set limits or prescribe their behaviour, They must learn for themselves - and from their mistakes, should they make some. This naturally leads to the obvious Satanic deduction that a group like the Temple of Set may contain one, perhaps two, Satanists - who are using the 'members' for their own Satanic goals. This person (or persons) would of course deny this, and if that denial was sincere, they could not be Satanists. What is certain, is that that group cannot contain more than perhaps two Satanists - for the members accept the constraints imposed upon them from above, and are servile, in both theory and practice. They are also not being led into real experiences, but accept a sterile, sanitized and safe 'Satanism' as pedaled by their leader. e) Satanism does not seek any form of official recognition as it does not seek to become respectable or the prerogative of a majority. Rather' Satanism operates' and must operate' for the most part in a clandestine or 'underground' manner. 'Official' recognition mean someone or some organization is granted some sort of "status" and thus assumes both in theory and in fact an 'authority' and an organizational structure to support it. This authority and this structure mean followers, sycophants - and contradict the essence of Satanism. 'Respectability' means a moral stance broadly in line with that pertaining at the time - that is, it means a restricting morality, ethics, as well a limiting of action to what is deemed broadly 'acceptable' by the 'society' of the time. Both of these - official

recognition and respectability - also mean that the self-appointed authority which is recognized and becomes or seeks to be respectable, sets its own limits: there is 'proscription' of other groups, a peer hierarchy and all the many trappings of herd conformity; the triumph of illusive forms over essence. In brief, the deluding of others, rather than their liberation. Since the experience of the essence that Satanism brings is unique, this uniqueness is totally contradictory to all forms that seek to constrain, define and restrict - two of these forms being 'official recognition' and 'respectability'. ^^^ Some other hard facts about Satanism are in order - to be placed on record Satanism is hard and very dangerous. This danger is much more than just a 'mental' or a psychic one of the kind sometimes experienced in magickal workings. It is a personal danger of the 'life or death' kind. If it is not, then it is not tough enough, it is not Satanic. For far too long the pathetic imitation Satanists, such as those in the Temple of Set and the Church of Satan, have had no one to contradict their sickly, wimpish versions of Satanism - they have tried to deny the darkness and evil which are essential to Satanism because the frauds in those organizations are fundamentally weak: they have never gone to their limits, never experienced the realness of evil. They have tried to make 'Satanism' safe and 'respectable': they have intellectualized it because they are typical products of this present intellectualized, peace-loving, "we need to be safe" society. A Satanist is like a beast of prey - in real life, not in fantasy. A Satanist may be and often is an assassin, a warrior, an outlaw - in real life. The imitation Satanists, however, pretend to be these things - their fantasy-life is greater than their real experiences of such things. A Satanist seeks and makes real his/her fantasies and then masters the real-life situations and all those desires/feelings which give birth to those fantasies - they live them and then transcend them, creating from those experiences something beyond them: a new individual. Often, things go wrong - but as always in life, the strong survive and the weak perish, are written off. The Satanist creates the dreams, standards of excellence and spirit which others often later aspire to emulate. This creation is in real life, by deeds and deeds alone. Because of this, few indeed are the genuine Satanists. Sometimes their lives (or aspects of them) become public - but often they are hidden, working their darkness in secret, for the benefit of evolution. 1 It can also aid the sinister dialectic - here, an understanding of Aeonics is important. - Order of Nine Angles -

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>>72826

Loosh Farmer "Anon" is the brainless sissy retard of a board owner

>Yes, as I indicated at the beginning. Magick ? of whatever type - enhances your life, and is a way to knowledge and increased vitality. Magickal acts are important in the beginning, but most important of all is our attitude to life and our ways of living. This is why we despise the Nazarene philosophy - the Satanist is proud, strong, defiant, while a Nazarene is afraid of living, afraid of dying and mentally sick: weighed down by guilt and envy. The meek espouse peace because they know the strong would destroy them - so they infect the strong with the disease of `pacifism', with guilt because they are strong

>>72865

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>>72828

No need to speak about yourself in third person, loosh farmer anon.

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OP here again. I'm surprised at the amount of off-topic discussion that's sprung up in this thread. Perhaps, next time, I should try and phrase my original statement differently.

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The way I see it, anon, fear, whether it be a matrix or not, is a very animalistic tendency that produces great amounts of anxiety, leading to better loosh flow. This is how news outlets and media work: they are so popular and have so much sway because they cause people to be filled with negative emotions and distrust, as well as letting themselves be easily manipulated as to where their energies are going. You have good and interesting subjective ideas, and seem to have signs of a strong network for producing loosh from the mindset you profess.

That being said, I am sure there are many who would engage in such work with you. I don't necessarily know if my energies would be conducive to your work, however, as I am firmly rooted in my own subjective experience. That's not a "no," answer, per se, but something more of an "I would have to get to know you," answer. That being said, depending on the work being done, I would be more than willing to provide it with loosh.

>>72756

Perhaps I phrased this sentiment incorrectly. Letting the third density take care of itself is not a passive attitude, or at least I don't mean to convey it as such. I use this experience as a means to learn more about myself, others, and limitation, and it gives me the chance to create new ideas which I can then explore further when I am not in such a limited state of being. I do not advocate a Buddhist method of detachment in one's life, I merely suggest that one should spend their lives enjoying the simple things and not focus too intently on the more obtuse workings. In the end, the time we spend here is limited, provided one does not become addicted to this lifestyle, and one should spend their lives gleaning as much knowledge as they can to contribute themselves to greater works. Helping others is a great service for this, and part of the reason I seek to help others on their subjective journeys. Manipulation is a cruel tactic and it only muddles intent.

>>72757

I would agree, in a differing way. There is no reason to fear, because fear is an arbitrary response an animal makes to the unknown or the unwanted. Defying this instinct allows greater expression in the third-density form.

>>72774

It depends on what exactly your query entails.

>>72775

It does, in a very meaningful way, but only if emotional attachment takes place. This is why my work needs such meticulous care. It is simple, and yet powerful, and I intend to "anchor," it to the "highest," of all systems of existence.

>>72778

You can transmute almost any negatively-charged (one polar end) energy into positively charged (other polar end) energy, provided a neutralizing force is present. This understanding is fundamental to the nature of both life and existence on the third dimension. Ultimately the works of all the greats are subjective in mode and as such information must be gleaned in a way that caters to the subjective experience.

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>>72787

It could be due to overexposure, or a sense of cognitive dissonance. I have had a number of "awakenings," and each time I have, my senses toward each mode increase. If you're suppressing a subconscious desire, the best course of action would be to have another awakening experience.

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>>72790

I never called myself "powerful", nor "better". You're equating two very different things, and jumping to conclusions based on a lack of understanding of my meaning. This is why I said I should have phrased my query differently. Words can hint at platitudes where none exist.

OP here.

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>>72799

My purpose for farming loosh is to contribute energy to a greater work. If I thought I were "better," than mundanes, I would not wish to awaken them to their own nature and feel pain at their lack of understanding. This is not about "fulfilling ego". Having more capabilities than the next man doesn't make me "better," than his essential nature. But my individual prowess might far exceed his in many ways. Inequality is part of individuality. We are not all the same, and this in itself helps men realize their true nature. Man worshiped the "gods," for their prowess, but their purpose for appearing was to help the spirits trapped in the more limited beings realize their own self and attempt to reach their level.

>>72802

Though the body and mind may be corrupt, each life bears with it an experience of learning. Merely pity them, for their journey on these planes is far from complete.

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>>72877

I appreciate your knowledge and willingness and desire to understand, but I have to disappoint you in saying I subscribe to no form of philosophy, belief, or dogma. I'm familiar with the subtler nuances of such things as Satanism, Luciferianism, Goetia and the finer arts of "demon-binding," and I've learned quite a few things from many pages of their most secret grimoires, texts and journals, as well as being acquainted with several secret initiates, but I subscribe to no other form of thought or belief than my own. The subjective experience is key to producing desired outcomes.

OP here one last time. Looking on my previous post, I mentioned that anxiety leads to better loosh flow. I feel I should clarify this statement. That being said, the energy produced, from what I can ascertain, is a peculiar admixture that has a very "negative," charge to it, allowing it to be more easily "sucked up," by beings emitting the exact opposite charge.

Inviting more people to discuss this topic.

>>72960

Could someone explain to me the nazi obsession around here? I find it hard to believe so many people would be blind enough to support fascism (specially not having experienced it first-hand). So what's the magical reason?

>>72975

There are a lot of /fringe/&/pol/ cross posters here.

Since no matter what I say will convince you of our truth, suffice to say that the current direction of the world is down into the nastiest, basest and depraved state, where only the desires of the lower self is nurtured.

The right people in control of a fascist state can undo the damage caused to the psyche of mundanes by the ((powers that be)).

Without a doubt a whole lot of lolbertarian and liberal degenerates will scream and struggle against such rule, masking their perversions as expressions of freedom, but sometimes an unruly child needs a strong hand to put him back on the right path.

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>>72979

I understand what you're saying, but what you are actually in favor of is totalitarianism, not fascism per se.

I completely agree the world needs a totalitarian leader more than ever, but I'd rather see a communist regime than a fascist one.

In reality anything that brings economic protectionism and strong moral values would do. I just don't like the bile, hatred and violence that comes with fascism. I'd rather have my family brainwashed into compliance by communism than turned into violent intransigent hateful drones by fascism.

>>72980

As someone whose family lived under Soviet Communism I can tell you that you're missing the hunger, the fear, having to eat rats to survive, being sent to Gulag for possession of wheat seeds and shot if you're some sort of intellectual.

Overall the 3rd reich has killed less of my family than the commies so I'd prefer fascism to communism.

OP here.

Could we keep things on the current topic? Politics are a waste of time. Endlessly prattling and trying to clash subjective viewpoints, even if those professing such views are linked into an objective grid, are completely counter-intuitive to anyone who doesn't wish to have their loosh drawn out. Sure, you can use politics as a means to rally behind a specific idea or cause, and use the combined support to garner loosh for your proceedings, but there will always be those who do not share the views of the politicking and they are crucified as an example to forward the single-minded notions of the leaders in power. A paradigm shift is inevitable in the minds of men, but the shift will continue to happen until man transcends his own parasitic nature. Whereas the seeker would seek to liberate man from the limitations of his own being, the politician seeks to exploit the lesser nature of man's being and bend others to his will, including those who are of a seeking nature. Any force that tries to claim dominance over the minds of other infinite beings will inevitably crumble under the weight of its own hubris. This is why I say to you that the counter-liberal movement we see in today's times is only a temporary solution. Goodness and noble intent in man can only come from within.

>>72976

To continue with your analogy, the "children" that you fear so much that you have to crush them under your boot to survive have more potential than anything you can possibly imagine. Fascism is a coward's tool. Hitler himself was one of those children who gained too much power (both esoterically and politically), so who was there to put him in his place? The Americans? Churchill? When does all this one-sidedness finally come back to bite the people in the ass who started it, the same people who wish they had the same freedoms as children that they are now trying to take away from their own?

>>72983

>Politics are a waste of time

Stopped reading right there. Only people who think they are above politics are people that are comfortable in the status quo and thus want to ignore political matters. Political discussions are also a great opportunity to practice magick and it just so happens in the very book I am reading right now I've been reading passages specifically dealing with politics and religion and the subconscious and consciously held fixations and what it means for being able to influence and reprogram people. There's some heavy sorcery always going on in the political arena and a lot of loosh locked up into the game. If you're adept enough you can draw on immense energy pools here.

>>72986

Actually now that I think of it two books in fact that I have been reading in the last two days have talked about politics and how it should be used by the magician.

>>72982

>being shot for being an intellectual

you're talking about Maoism there, which identifies the farmer class with the proletariat. Proper Communism does not do that.

Besides, I can't accept Nazism simply because I'm from Spain. Technically Caucasian, but surely regarded as an inferior "species" by you lot. No thank you.

>>72992

Your special brand of communism is not any better. They have all been bad.

>I can't entertain an idea because it hurts my fee-fees

Your ideas about hitler and natsoc come straight out of hollywood.

>>72995

wtf are you saying? your ideas about socialism and communism come straight out of Fox mate.

>>72997

I'm saying that communism has been bad in every iteration, not just maoism.

You think that natsocs will consider Spaniards subhuman, which they do not. Hitler and nearly all natsoc believe that all nations have a right to build up their own people, there were even non-white divisions fighting for Germany.

>>73002

All right, I get what you're saying. At least for the sake of argument I accept it.

What I still don't see is why National Socialism is the way to go. It was quite a disaster in its only iteration as well.

Besides, do you think it could realistically provide the political environment the world needs (but does not want) at the moment? I think that's being too optimistic. I see no totalitarian exit to be honest. Capitalism and consumerism is in full effect and for the first time the predominant ideological paradigm does not depend on an ideology like socialism and national socialism did (those are confusing names btw). The current system feeds off baser instincts. I don't think you can combat it with ideology. And subjugating the people would amount to decimating humanity, which would not guarantee you wouldn't end up with even more opposition.

>>73003

It wasn't a disaster. Germany was terribly poor after WW1 and the people were becoming more degenerate. Very quickly the natsoc regime fixed these problems and became wealthy while independent of the bankers that were gaining power.

I don't think that it is realistic to expect that type of government in this day and age, but it is an ideal type of government to work towards.

The way that our current society is headed is destruction, yes, but we should still work towards preserving it or perhaps setting up the beginnings of something better once it collapses. Different people need different types of governments for different situations, and I think that a government like Germany had is great for fixing a society where people are materialistic and unhappy like they are today and they were in Weimar Germany.

The names are confusing, but national socialism is based off Prussian Socialism and what is good for the nation as a whole instead of Marxist Socialism.

OP, make a new thread. It's been hijacked.