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e19640 No.95351

Do not start threads just to ask a question; post your questions in a pre-existing thread instead. Previous thread: http://archive.is/iMvYV FAQ: https://8ch.net/fringe/faq.html

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e19640 No.95352

Alright fellas we're back but unfortunately we lost about 2 months worth of THREADS and our static board pages (Rules, Ranks, FAQ, etc.), however if you posted in a thread made before about January 31st then your post should have been restored just fine.

I'm going to message Smiley and see if he has any of the board pages saved somewhere and we'll see if we can get those back. I'm also currently waiting on Codemonkey to wake up and confirm whether or not the lost threads can be recovered ( >>>/sudo/32997 ) but for now if you needed some of the information in one of threads that was lost then you should hopefully be able to find it here https://web.archive.org/web/20170321220243/https://8ch.net/fringe/index.html.

Archive of the lost Questions thread can be found here.


I'm sure most of you already know why /fringe/ was down, but for those of you that don't see here.


e19640 No.95359


Static pages are back up

5699fd No.95361

How do I motivate myself to do something useful like reading or studying?

964b33 No.95362


Fix your energy blocks.


Find out what element you lack/need. You probably lack metal. In that case go for light jog or walk daily, and do deep breathing exercises focusing on the passage of breath and center of chest.

e19640 No.95363


You can always do what I did and bruteforce yourself to do it with pure will for a certain amount of time a day or certain amount of chapters per day. Another seemingly degenerate option that worked for me is when your attention begins to fade while studying is to jerk off (not ejaculate) and continue reading, it honestly helps a lot to keep you going.

964b33 No.95364


Also if it's metal, focus on learning how to grieve and becoming righteous/self-righteous. Prune bad behaviors/beliefs/habits according to your own standards rather than others. Go on a spiritual and physical cleanse with tea, water, sunshine and deep breathing meditation. Practice meticulous hygiene, cleanliness, and appearance. Scrub your skin and use a natural lotion. Avoid common cleaning products, just use mechanical scrubbing and something very natural. Open the gate to your Middle Dan Tien. Stimulate the nose with tapping, scrubbing, mashing and pungent odors. In fact, focus on enhancing your sense of smell. Breathing meditation with focus on smelling the air.

If it's not metal I'll tailor a new response.


I have an idea for 8 elements that might be useful to people.

Standard 4:





Then an extension of these 4:





Fire-Radiation (EMF polarity): Passion, Transformation | Influential and Timeless

Earth-Metal: Determination, Stability | Strength and Character and Honor

Air-Space: Inspiration, Flexible Perspective | Stasis/Neutralizing and Equalizing

Water-Tea: Food, Family | Contemplation and Wisdom.

What do you guys think? Useful? Accurate?

e19640 No.95366


>What do you guys think? Accurate?

Yea it looks good imo except for a few things. I don't think wisdom is exclusive to one element, since you can have wisdom about all the elements. Also family would be more of a structure thing so maybe it should go under earth no? I guess it would depend on the kind of family you come from actually

e19640 No.95367


>since you can have wisdom about all the elements

What I meant is you can gain wisdom from all the elements, mb

964b33 No.95368



Water is funny because of how non conceptual and unpretentious it is. It's like, you're prescribing Alchemist to fire, Warrior to Metal, etc and Water is like "Preschool Teacher". That's Water.

You can make friends your family too though. Family can be a small town where you know every neighbor. Community. But it's closer than that. Food is nourishment, something you take in to grow. Family is structure for you because you probably lack water; it's more about emotional intimacy and sharing and love n shit.

Fire: Social

Earth: Physical

Air: Mental

Water: Emotional

Another addendum: Radiation might better be [Influential and Ambitious.]

Tea is wisdom because that's what it seeks through contemplation. People can be inspired by strength or passion, or influenced by someone's determination and stability, etc. so it's no contradiction.

Wisdom requires intimate contemplation, getting close and familiar with your thoughts and feelings and relationships, with yourself and others and the world. It also requires you don't fall asleep, like the person who wakes in the middle of the night realizing enlightenment only to fall back asleep and forget it by morning. That's why it takes nature into it, suspends it and soaks in that plant to draw out its qualities and ingest them for contemplation.

For the mind it's called Intelligence, for the body it's called Reflexes, for the… fire… it's called Creativity.

Fire: Creativity

Earth: Reflexes

Air: Intelligence

Water: Wisdom

I'm liking how this is fleshing out.

52a3be No.95369


Wow, that blows. It seems like this only happened to /fringe/. Does anyone know of any other boards it happened to? That's a bit strange.

e19640 No.95371


It appearently happened to /hgg/ but to a much lesser extent.


He's getting the same error we're getting when trying to do the fix on the 404 page which is that the threads don't exist. I don't think anyone else has claimed to have this problem outside of us 2 though. We're still waiting on Codemonkey to reply

e19640 No.95379

Now that the old questions thread is back I will be locking this thread until the other fills up.

e19640 No.95534


52a3be No.95539


Now that's a difficult question to answer.

964b33 No.95540

File: 161bcd9de0bc040⋯.jpg (133.7 KB, 736x1173, 32:51, pilot.jpg)

Any other occult/esoteric/fringe forums you guys know of? This shit is slow.

6f541b No.95541

I'm two weeks into nofap/ semen retention and fuck me I can't stop thinking about sex. How do I control this sexual energy and turn into something useful?

27bd5f No.95542

I want to practise telekinesis. I remember some people on fringechan saying it was possible but unfortunately, I don't know how to go about pracitising this. I vividly remember one of the posters said to take an empty jar, some string and to tape the string to the of the jar lid so the string dangles in the middle of the jar and then focus on moving the string but that's all I remember. Is there any kind of visualisation I need to create? Do I need to visualise an impact striking the string? Or, just by focusing on it, will it happen?


I just want to thank you for posting this question. I always want to say that I'd appreciate any further questions that address it.

f4e0c7 No.95543

how do i teleport to new zealand

964b33 No.95544

File: 0e1b0dcf0bf477c⋯.png (14.31 KB, 600x341, 600:341, pyramid of fitness.png)




I wrote these and I'm dumb, been generating too much yin field, my bad.


The world is overly feminine. Very security oriented. No power.

If you want to perform telekinesis, or have willpower and determination, you must do one thing.

Be the manliest, strongest, fastest, smartest, most righteous cock slapper around.

Having 10000x more power, energy, will, determination and capability than anyone around you = 1000x more likely to move shit with your mind.

So all you have to do is becoming a scorching, burning hot solar luminescence.

964b33 No.95545

File: bf6b32d15da6822⋯.png (23.32 KB, 941x570, 941:570, ASCENDED MASTERS HORIZON.PNG)

I made something for you folks

21f02c No.95546

Is it possible to "freestyle" magicks by just willing procedures to work like you want them to work, without following established canons? Or are the base rules eternally immutable?

964b33 No.95547


Move sand one freestyle grain at a time or just realize that a well made, industrial backhoe is going to do it 999999x faster and easier.

Respect the science of it, of those who came before you. Freestyle when you don't have to ask the question in an obullshitist forum.

Be a student first, not second.

>Download "The Occult Seed".

>Become a learned, practiced Magus.

>Consider what freestyling means at that point.

>Realize that it doesn't really exist, you'll find a book/teacher with what you "freestyled", but as part of a larger, more useful, better, more thorough and superior framework and accompanying magic, and they even freestyled better than you did

Such is anything in life.

21f02c No.95548


I suppose it was foolish to even consider cutting corners when basically every book says STUDY AND PRACTICE A LOT.

Thank you

12e968 No.95550

I know this is probably said a lot, but how would i go about making smallish physical changes to the body (nose, chin etc).

d9289b No.95554


Ingest the Minor Opus

af1763 No.95559



52a3be No.95560


There's this super advanced new teleportation device called a plane. You should try one of those. What /fringe/ stuff do you want to do in New Zealand? I live there, if I can help you with anything.


The same way you'd manifest anything else. Have you read any of the books yet?

d9289b No.95561


The magnum opus can turn base metals into noble metals. The minor opus can bring an organism to a state much closer to (objective) perfection. As below so above, as without so within.

f4e0c7 No.95562


my gf had to move there and i cant instantly get the money for a plane can i use magick to get plane money quicker at least?

f4e0c7 No.95563


where in newzealand if you would be willing to do it it would be pretty good if you could go to where she lives and tell her dont cuck jesse obviously if shes going to cuck me just telling her wont stop her but it would be pretty amusing at least

78efcc No.95564

Is it possible that being in a certain place/house can disrupt my ability to study and focus?

e19640 No.95565


Absolutely, every area has its own energy to it and is usually reflective of the people that occupy the area. Don't let that be an excuse to stop you from studying though. Find a room you can have to your own and if that isn't an option go to like a library or sumthin'.

d883e7 No.95570

File: abe93f53b9023fe⋯.png (63.79 KB, 1787x522, 1787:522, Shapeshift 1.PNG)

File: bad5a6e62692786⋯.png (113.26 KB, 1777x675, 1777:675, Shapeshift 2.PNG)


I saved these from fringechan.org

d9289b No.95575


Transmute lead to gold vis elemental concentration. Easy money bby

52a3be No.95576



So you're asking on /fringe/ because you don't have money for a plane ticket? Have you read any of the books? There are a bunch of methods for manifesting money, but core belief in the process is pretty important, and you sound new.

>where in newzealand if you would be willing to do it

How about you tell me where she is instead of me telling you where I am? FYI, worrying about being cheated on gives energy to the possibility of being cheated on. Can you not just talk to her yourself? Surely if you're in a relationship, even if you're in different countries right now, you must have some kind of contact details.

d883e7 No.95577

File: 000a9fba809da90⋯.png (353.59 KB, 1310x2779, 1310:2779, Eidetic Memory Guide.png)

Pic-related is interesting. Imagine a memory like John Von Nuemann or Nikola Tesla: read a book once and recall it word-for-word years later. Etc.

When you have read through this guide you’ll see that it describes a method of using a memory palace and using servitors (called Tulpa) to automatically encode and later retrieve information. But the part where you program the servitors is left out.

How do you program servitors to encode and later retrieve memories from a memory palace like in this guide?

FYI might spam this a few more times if the thread picks up

52a3be No.95581

If all is mind, and particles each have different degrees of mind in them, does that mean that people get more intelligent as they get fatter or grow out their hair/beard?

d9289b No.95582


Low effort shitpost 😏

52a3be No.95583


I did put some effort into it tbh fam smh

d6d86f No.95584


no and no, the mind isnt intrinsic to the matter but is instead the underlying fabric of that which manifests as the mental imprint, a material object.

Therefore matter is magic. only look at second spoiler if you can't follow the train of thought and admit you're a worthless wizard. matter imprints the signature of its vibration upon the underlying fabric, mind.

d6d86f No.95585


its awful.

d9289b No.95586


>he thinks mercury is made of salt

😂 Bullshit sissy "wizard"

d6d86f No.95589


leaps and leaps ahead of you, worst wizard.

your quality is sad.

d9289b No.95590


>posts on an imageboard to feed his ego

>this nigga think he be woke



d6d86f No.95591


learn the principles

d6d86f No.95594

why is the cow holy in India but is used for sacrifice in the middle east?

e3cf03 No.95600

Hello this page is not necessary anymore: https://8ch.net/fringe/suicide.html

You may take it down.

I achieved the objective as of April 13th 2017.

After taking down that page you may delete this post.

d9289b No.95603


You a obullshitist whit boo beeatch

964b33 No.95617

I'd like to cultivate GRAVITY. The word "Gravitas" suggests that gravity is the seriousness of someone or a situation. While cultivating a "gravitas" personality I would like to actually produce heavier gravity around me.

Does anyone have any resources on the opposite of Levitation (Magnetolectric), Gravity? (Electromagnetic).

e19640 No.95618

File: dc153adb4305ead⋯.pdf (1.91 MB, The Book of Knowledge.pdf)


>I would like to actually produce heavier gravity around me.

Invoke earth and densify your sphere of influence. Also the haric line meme from Book of Knowledge works pretty well for that.

f4e0c7 No.95620


yeah i do contact her im not new here ive discovered the freedomboards.kiara or whatever the fuck it is original fringechan years ago put just not made any progress with magick or anything the only thing ive done is sigil magick

e3cf03 No.95621



tfw Chansey lives there

There's a shitload of different ways you can accomplish what you what from the general to the specific to the creative. For the general reality manifestation stuff see montalk's articles in his notes section about it. For specific try creating a servitor or various other thoughtforms specifically to get you to where you want to go (or to get you the plane ticket, although giving wiggle room and just mandating you need to somehow get to your target location sometimes is the way to go) and for creative ways you can try bilocation or dowsing some information you can use to get there or you can do what my friend does where he puts himself into a trance while sitting in a car in a gas station and then walks into the store and picks out only the lottery tickets that are winners in there.

78efcc No.95622

My feet get sore easily. What can I do to prevent this?

52a3be No.95624


So did you still want to tell me what city she lives in in case I live nearby, or what?


Good for you, Smiley!

964b33 No.95626


Now I realize I need to levitate, as I have too much gravitas. More magnetolectricity vs electromagnetics. SUCH is life.


Trail walk barefoot. Your feet will learn how to distribute impact/strain properly.

Or maybe you strain yourself too much trying to "stand on your own two feet", thus you need to go about things more relaxed and cycle in higher intensity "taking a stand" or "standing up to others".

Oh wait, do standing meditation. Relax the knees and sway in the air until your body figures its shit out and your vertical forces are harmonized, which I believe is done by the stomach/spleen/pancreas, so focus on that area of the body. Maybe you have stomach/digestion issues too?

65b96b No.95635

After I learn to meditate for extended periods of time, it might be a good idea to start pan handling while meditating, right? I was watching a video of a guy on youtube who after having his child die, he became a buddhist monk in japan. He wore a rice hat and just stood still holding a basket for a hour or so in the same spot every day. I am thinking about doing the same thing, is there anything I should know.

934dfd No.95641


yeah why not just get a job you schmuck

1d3c23 No.95645

Are there any books that actually teach me how to advance spiritually and explore my mind/the astral instead of just describing shit?

abb46c No.95646













07bac5 No.95647

Thoughts on MMS? Maybe this is a better question for the fitness thread but lets see

d9289b No.95654


Bullshit occultism

8c4ed5 No.95660

What's the real downside to transmuting matter? What stops anyone from turning random rocks into massive diamonds?

964b33 No.95661


A decade of due practice, self-defense getting in the way of practice, time/efficiency, variables during the ritual creating very shitty diamonds because you didn't isolate the environment from unwanted forces. Basically you need a magical lab to do magical science after you get your magical masters degree.

Also Emeralds and Rubies fetch a higher price, and just finding them already existing is much easier. 1 year vs 10 years of practice.

e3cf03 No.95673


>What stops anyone from turning random rocks into massive diamonds?

It's been done before (usually with transmuting stuff into gold) and the outcome is normies hunting you down, getting irrational, demanding to know how it's done, not being patient enough to actually learn, not accepting your summary explanations, issues with selling the rare earth metals, police or something like it coming and confiscating everything for the state rather than just leaving it all there, and so on.

One strategy used to deal with it was to produce these metals in smaller quantities and sell it here and there. They had to avoid people though who'd test the purity of the gold and find it absolutely pure and realize it was alchemical gold.

The other downside is the massive amount of loosh you need for it. You either have to spend a very long time building yourself up so that you can easily and efficiently produce these metals or skip the mental architecture building and do a one off super intense ritual that drains you of shitloads of loosh.

I assure you that the transmutation of matter has been ongoing forever and not all the gold and so on found on Earth comes from asteroids.

So this should give you some perspective. If you want to do it, go ahead, but it can potentially cause a lot of trouble depending on what you try to do with your rare earth metals afterwards.

e3cf03 No.95674


Oh yes dowsing for rare earth metals is much preferable in general to obtaining them via transmutation. Easier and less troublesome.

c10981 No.95675

Whenever I focus on my chi, I feel it gravitate toward my cock. What does this mean?

964b33 No.95676

How does one cultivate and contain their loosh? How does one prevent leakage and reduction in loosh?

How does exercise affect loosh? What is the loosh of athletes? How does yoga affect loosh?

What are the mundane ways of being a loosh master?

I have the resources I need to read for magical loosh attainment, but mundane enhancement seems necessary as well. Are there foods I should avoid? Environmental conditions? Weather? Can I hot/cold temper myself for loosh powers? Does cultivating connection to the One generate massive loosh and loosh powers?

d6d86f No.95680



a48ad9 No.95684

I was out sleeping in my van the other day when I was jolted awake in a dream by a face leaning in close to mine. It just popped in there, or I just gained awareness and saw it vanish. It was right on the edge of my dream. It popped in like somebody saying boo and I was immediately awake.

I felt horrible and drained, like I hadn't slept at all, so I slept again and found myself rested.

Was I loosh-raped? It there a hotline I can call?

4b710a No.95686


That sounds like the people you describe were massive retards

>not making a chunk of gold, melting it down and throwing whatever common metal on it to fuck the purity a bit

>not making raw diamonds and claiming you found them in your backyard

>not making a jewelry business so you can justify having gold bricks around

8c4ed5 No.95687

does your physical position matter when astral projecting? if I were to project while inside a moving airplane, would this make returning harder since my body would be in a wildly different position and still moving fast?

d9289b No.95688


If you suddenly have kilos of gold the gubbmint will think you sell drugs.

04f16b No.95693


And how would they know unless you advertise it like a retard or get raided for something completely unrelated?

7b6a8f No.95697


I get the spoopy faces all the time at night. Just advance till you realize that you're a whole l lot scarier than these ghostly apparitions of shadow people. You'll know how to remove them then. Could eat consume them and get their loosh, could just banish them, your choice.


The Earth rotates around the Sun at an incredibly high speed, so if you AP for an hour when you come back to your body it'll be in a vastly different position in our solar system's space. So no, AP in a bullet train or an airplane, it makes no difference or cause any issue.

27bd5f No.95700

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

What is that first video that PewdiePie is mocking? I'd genuinely like to watch it

d883e7 No.95703

Reposting my question as above >>95577

This guide's method involves using a memory palace and using Servitors (called Tulpa here). Your servitors are meant to encode information into your memory palace and retrieve it for you when needed. But there's no clear explanation how to program Servitors for that specific task.

How do you program servitors to encode memories then later retrieve memories from a memory palace for you, like this guide suggests?

Also could using self-hypnosis give me a perfect memory?

FYI might spam this a few more times if the thread picks up

63110c No.95713

File: dda776ef9beb358⋯.jpg (65.06 KB, 500x687, 500:687, 565de3caebe16ff841a96c00b0….jpg)

Where the fuck do all these spirit bloggers get in contact with pleiadeans and lightworkers. Are these people really advanced, or do they just get abducted one day

d9289b No.95714


They would know if you told anyone. Which is my point 😂. If the goverment doesn't know about it that means you've been so secretive literally only you know about it. If people are turning lead into gold they definitely aren't getting caught, and if they do get caught the government agencies would kill their friends and family and do a coverup for obvious reasons.

>letting the masses know that metals are created in the earth and can all be created in virtually unlimited amounts

By the way, if you admitted to having The Stone some fucking cabal would kill you within the week. There is no reason to admit to having it.

d9289b No.95715


The LARP dimension

a6a1c2 No.95719

How do I know when someone's using me to energize his servitor?

And how I defend myself against it?

d9289b No.95724


Think of Will as a polarized current. If your Will is muchless than the person trying to drain your loosh you're fucked. Luckily the Will of loosh farmers is usually negligible. Just meditate and focus your Will.

b06d0d No.95725

How can I create an ideal meditation environment?

d9289b No.95731


As below so above as without so within.

e3cf03 No.95737


>How does one cultivate and contain their loosh? How does one prevent leakage and reduction in loosh?

You have to keep it in constant circulation but in a loop. It's the only way. Leakage is when it leaves the circuit and doesn't come back. Reduction in loosh usually happens when you're living a meaningless life and not living out the dramas god wants you to.

>How does exercise affect loosh? What is the loosh of athletes? How does yoga affect loosh?

Depends on the person. In general, increased respiration should enable a greater supply of loosh, but at the same time you must be aware there are certain exercises where you gain strength and become very powerful and others where you exhaust yourself and lose strength. I have some random book I still have to read through about I think it's called standing-tree meditation or whatever, a kind of yoga where you're perfectly still, and you cultivate inner-energy in such a way that it makes your whole body a shitload stronger and in every way increases your physical excellence but without exhausting your vital supply.

>What are the mundane ways of being a loosh master?

Direct the attention and emotions of others towards you. Note; I engage in this kind of loosh harvesting for a long fucking time until I realized just opening myself to God enables a better and less limited flow of loosh into you.

>I have the resources I need to read for magical loosh attainment, but mundane enhancement seems necessary as well. Are there foods I should avoid?

Yes there are. See the diet and nutrition thread.

>Environmental conditions? Weather? Can I hot/cold temper myself for loosh powers?

Learn tumo meditation. If you are very adept (liek me) you regulate your bodyheat so well that you never feel discomforted by hot or cold at any time because you adjust so well and so fast to different temperatures.

>Does cultivating connection to the One generate massive loosh and loosh powers?

Yes it does. Especially if you meditate upon the water element and practice all-love.

e3cf03 No.95738


argh just go read the alchemical texts where they talk about past alchemists and how and why they were so secretive and discrete.

Also I don't think it's as simple as you think it is to disguise the fact the gold is not coming in a natural ratio from any known mines.

Also most of the people that got fucked over for owning alchemical gold weren't the alchemists themselves but some of the people that were given the tincture and then used it to transmute gold and then tried to sell the gold.

Go find the story about the man that was given the tincture. It was such a small amount and the guy basically asked could it possibly be enough so the alchemist took that incredibly small amount, divided in half, and threw away half of it… and it was still far more than sufficient to transmute a shitload of lead the guy had into gold.

e3cf03 No.95739

I finally fucking understand elements. I did not understand elements all these years because I only focused on their quantitative aspects and never thought to focus on their qualitative aspects. When I read through the notes of Seila Orienta I finally fucking understood and now I can use the elements.

Can anyone explain however how the magnetic fluid is any different from the water element and the electric fluid is any different from the fire element? I know they come from those elements but I don't know what makes them these "fluids" that are apparently a distinct thing. Please unconfuse me.

e3cf03 No.95740


Clean and organize your home to make it harmonious and repair everything and make furniture minimal and put away everything into storage and out of the way so as to leave as much space for air in the room and be aware of the influence of the elements in the room, how the surroundings attract entities, etc.

Basically make your surroundings so beautiful and harmonious and functional and so on that random wandering entities in harmony with these qualities will love to come and visit.

e3cf03 No.95741

yesternight I was astral projected to a location I had been in previously physically where I kept experiencing this weird phenomena where I'd feel only my bones and not my flesh and my bones would feel like they're burning and my muscular power would be like invincible. The burning of my bones was very bothersome. I finally fucking solved it by holding a single grain of sea salt inbetween my fingers and focusing my consciousness and bodily energy through it for about a minute and the feeling came back into my flesh. This one spot in my city definitely has something in it, some kind of entity, probably a fire elemental as the place burned down before and only recently have been rebuilt. I couldn't do anything about it but when I got salt it fucked its shit up and returned myself to normal.

d9289b No.95742

>can suddenly tell the exact emotions of a person just by looking at them

>suddenly my mind is working like it never has

Pro tip. Shilajit is not "activated" unless it is taken with a basic mineral. Holding a gram under my younger with powdered calcium made it really work.

d6d86f No.95743

>Holding a gram under my younger with powdered calcium

whats happening here?

d9289b No.95744



Younger = tongue

Fuck phones

f9c855 No.95747

File: 3e56c457f27a479⋯.jpeg (79.43 KB, 654x960, 109:160, d51cb5d9a64e23c2c02cbbd7c….jpeg)

I need help finding a specific book/pdf/source of this information. Ever since I was young, if I just blankly stare at whatever's in front of me in the right mental conditions, I've been able to make all the colour drain from everything for a couple of seconds. I didn't think it was anything special until I read something that I found through /fringe/ about it. I have absolutely no idea what it said this was, or what you can do with this. It may have had something to do with trance states. I really want to find it, because I just managed to teach myself to maintain the lack of colour for an extended period of time while staring at my feet, and I started seeing all these blobs of light crimson, golden yellow and dark blue floating around and/or radiating from me. The closest thing I can think to compare it to is an acid trip (pls no bully; I definitely don't have HPPD, I'm completely sober, and I brought this condition about wilfully). Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

Pic unrelated

d9289b No.95749


You cray cray nygguh 😭

e19640 No.95750


was it this thread?


If not, about how long ago was it that you saw the source posted?

7b6a8f No.95754

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Read the Bardon Companion for questions like these.


Load up on some fire element and go talk to it.

f5a84e No.95758

I need a copy of IIH in .epub format for comfy tablet reading. All the stuff on the sticky is garbo .pdf that reads like dogshit on tablets

a6a1c2 No.95759


And then what?

> If your Will is muchless than the person trying to drain your loosh you're fucked

If it is the case, how do I "increase" my will? Isn't there a way?

d3df91 No.95760

How is slouching prevented during meditation? It should be easy but sometimes it happens without even feeling it.

d9289b No.95763


You can't increase will any more than you can sunlight. It's more of a question of focusing it, in this case the simplest solution is to improve your material conditions. Eat better, exercise, meditate.

8759fb No.95775

Where can I find some good video resources on the Science of Breath's techniques?

8f9457 No.95778

Is there any /fringe/ way to modify my appearance? Say I want to get blue eyes?

07bac5 No.95784


Manifest your win in a contest to get free eye lenses, duh.

8f9457 No.95786

Is the 432Hz thing just a meme? What does /fringe/ recommends listening?

8f9457 No.95787


just believe on it lmao

d9289b No.95788



d9289b No.95789

>gets called out on bring an edgy term atheist white boi in his shitpost thread

>gets THIS mad


d9289b No.95791


5af37d No.95792

Any good system that uses liches for symbolism

d9289b No.95793


Yeah it's called suicide.org you insane retard.

d9289b No.95799


>this is the face of nu/pol/

a48ad9 No.95807


Yes, different tuning produces different results. Most headphones are distorted to produce way more more decibels at lower frequencies because niggers love them. Tuning a song to lower frequency would make the higher notes louder, and possibly drop off the low notes depending what its low end response is. Equalizers can also be used to compensate for this distortion but they're always unrefined shit. The best option is to buy headphones with the closest fitting response curve to the frequencies you listen to using something like headphone.com to find this.

Then there's reponsiveness of ears which I know nothing about, but I bet it varies like every other physical feature.

The specific tuning of 440hz also probably facilitates some sort of mind control. It's a shit frequency and doesn't fit the dogshit headphones they sell. Everything ought to be tuned lower but it isn't. Headphones ought to respond to higher frequency but they don't. Equalizers should be really good as a response but they're not.

Once again, niggers and Jews ruined everything. Getting quality headphones costs hundreds of dollars and most of them are a scam, made in China, with shit sound quality.

54a649 No.95813

>doesn't like symbolism

d9289b No.95814


>most conmen have been white

>most liberals are white

>the government is majority white

You like niggers cryin' "honkey be keepin' us down 😭" just fukaluk famalamadamn 😂👌🏻

Always got to find something to blame but truth is you a slave because you refuse to cast off your chains.

d9289b No.95815

Magic is not real. Get a job, get a mortgage, get married. Work, eat, fuck, shit, sleep, die. You are base animals and live only to serve Us. Consume, consume, consume!

8f9457 No.95816


that's not a good thought anon

d9289b No.95820

>literally enslaving yourself to the demiurge by consenting to arbitrary and unfair rules

f9c855 No.95822

Nice to see the board is still being flooded with bullshit because there aren't any rules against it.

a48ad9 No.95823


You're a dumb nigger that never says anything of value.

f9c855 No.95824


You do realize replying to them encourages them to post more, right?

a48ad9 No.95826


It doesn't matter what I do as long as the board owner is complicit in this shit. He bans sincere people because they ask questions when they start a new thread. It's fucking insane. And here we are talking about random bullshit in one monolithic thread like a bunch of retards because we can't start new topics of discussion. And I have to get lectured by cucks like you on top of it all!

Here's what I'll do. I'm never coming back. I'll make my own board and post by myself if I feel like talking paranormal.

d9289b No.95828


KYs faggot

8f9457 No.95830

So when I fap I get a bad day the following day. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? Besides not fapping of course, which I think I'll stop doing today.

f9c855 No.95831


It definitely isn't visual snow. I was in that thread. I don't think I described it very well. Have you ever seen the colour settings on a TV? It has a scale from 0 to 100 that you can turn all the way up or down. There might be that kind of setting on some computers, too. It's kind of like holding the left button and watching the colour gradually drain away from the TV screen, except it's faster, and instead of it going grey, it's kind of like a strange dark blue. Also, when it happens, instead of just focusing on whatever my eyes are pointing at, it's like more information from my entire field of vision is getting in.

f9c855 No.95832



I forgot to mention, I have no idea when I read about this, or whether it was a thread or a pdf.

d9289b No.95834


Don't ejaculate. When you ejaculate you lose huge amount of loosheroni.

964b33 No.95837


There's some indian technique, maybe chinese, that sends that energy up the spine to the brain and back down. It's related to the Ankh in some way. I don't know much more.

48445c No.95838

I just masturbated first time after three weeks. Strangely i didn't feel a massive loss of energy, but my head cleared very nicely. wtf happened?

e19640 No.95839

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

MLP's dropping greenpills on the youth. Feels good man


0:18- 0:44




d9289b No.95840


Masturbation is good for you slave, now get back in your breeding kennel.

e19640 No.95842


I've found that it depends where you're directing the energy during masturbation that affects how you'll feel afterwards, assuming you're masturbating non excessively (more than once every 7 days is too much for me usually but it varies from person to person and diets and such) which if you do will make you feel shitty no matter what. What I personally do is just masturbate to the feeling and release tensions that I have in my body by moving around during masturbation and stretching and taking breaths similar to the one from WWA's Personal Magnetism book which usually leaves me feeling like my mind and body has been reset after ejaculation. Either that or I masturbate and visualize my body healing or visualize things I may want.


Yeah you're thinking about ankhing.


d883e7 No.95845


Bumping my question again.

This guide describes using a memory palace and using Servitors (called Tulpa here). Your servitors are meant to "store" information into your memory palace and retrieve it for you when needed. But there's no clear explanation how to program Servitors for that specific task.

How do you program servitors to encode memories then later retrieve memories from a memory palace for you, like this guide suggests?

Also could using self-hypnosis give me a perfect memory?

I'll still spam this a few more times I suppose in case it gets buried

964b33 No.95846


Just imagine a librarian to store your shit for you. Interact with them like they're some super smart photographic memory woman that'll pull up any information you need.

709f86 No.95847


"A man may attain health and longevity if he practices an ejaculation frequency of twice monthly or 24 times in a year. If at the same time he pays careful attention to proper diet and exercise he will have a long and healthy life" [Sun Su-mo]

Lookup the yellow emperor and plain girl texts, the su wen jing.

I find ejaculation can be done if one is in a completely balanced and radiant state. It acts as a kind of refresher to get rid of the old and open to the new. Too little causes stagnation and mental issues as too much makes it difficult to sustain the physical form.

48445c No.95848


Well I have read about chinese medicine, and there was recommended to have sex almost every day at twenties. Of course this varies depending on the source and men were actual men back then.

>difficult to sustain the physical form.

Could this be used in body transformation?

f9c855 No.95849


Did it say if they were practising semen retention?

77d1f6 No.95856

Is the Kybalion really the best entry point into magic? What if you can't understand it?

7b6a8f No.95857

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Doesn't matter if you cannot fully understand it, the more your read and the more you practice, the more you'll be able to understand its more subtle meaning.

e19640 No.95878

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.


Video was taken down, heres another

Times should be the same if not 1-2 seconds off


0:18- 0:44




d9289b No.95880

Do you know why they called him the Yellow Emperor?

Because he knew the method of creating Manna, the philosophical honey.

e19640 No.95881


Depends if you're sitting, how you're sitting, or if you're standing while meditation.

if you're sitting on a chair stick your butt out a little more by moving your hips back, this will make your spine erect by default.

If standing pull your shoulders back by lightly squeezing the shoulder blades.

d3df91 No.95884


On the floor, legs crossed.

e19640 No.95886


Oh i rarely sit like that tbh, but I just tried it and it seems if you do both of the things in my original post (shoulders back hips pushed back) your spine should be locked in erect. Try it out.

d3df91 No.95891


I am sort of doing to feel cool maybe, is there is there any pros to classical meditation poses compared to sitting up right in a chair?

964b33 No.95894

So what is the esoteric cause of psycho-sexual issues?

It's absolutely disgusting. Focusing on a single element like fire is helping, but takes a long time. I feel like something is sucking the life right out of me, loosh farming me.

Is focusing on lightning a good idea? Like, becoming a tesla coil as the desired result; would that make me parasite free? I feel like every "Host" in every fictional book, movie, video game and whatever else in existence. God damn it's gross. How did this gross shit get everywhere. Worst part is I think everyone else is on a similar level.

This is gross. It is a dimension meant to be made of pure elemental "disgusting".

and besides that I've started hallucinating. Jesus christ. What is happening. This reminds me when I thought I was hearing my family say shit they weren't… some other vibration. My aunt was casting a death curse on my mother out loud like some sort of witch, and some other stuff happened. I think she's low key psychic, she sees/hears me say shit I'm not except by vibration… she has depression/anxiety issues, somewhat similar to me, and can be very creepy.

Fucking hell the vibes are everywhere and I have no idea how to process all this vibrational information. All this fucking reality manipulation is disorienting me.

I have "The Wand" of the Crown but not "The Pentacle" of the Kingdom I suppose. It's why standing tree pose meditation is helping me so much.

e19640 No.95896


I'm sure there is but I'm not qualified to answer that question since I don't really know the reasons certain postures work better than others. That subject goes really deep and it involves putting pressure on certain organs, releasing pressure on certain organs, knowing the functions of the organs, clearing energy pathways, closing energy pathways, tensing muscles and releasing tension in other muscles, the emotions/feelings different muscles bring about, the list goes on. There's so many reasons certain positions are better than others but the "best" will vary on what you're meditating about.

I will note however that I've read in multiple places that the full lotus is the best overall position to use, as to the reason for that I've no idea. I'm almost positive someone else here can answer your question better for you, but if not maybe do some research on asanas and why they work, maybe you can deduce an answer that way and find a meditating position that best suites your needs. GL

964b33 No.95897


Ah, Air and Fire combo is doing VERY GOOD. Air neutralizing shit is very helpful, and has been my modus operandi for most of my life, and I guess my loosh is being manipulated very terribly by the increasing presence of Water and Akashic element, and the floodgate of Ethereal parasites that come with that.


d9289b No.95901


I won't spoon feed you on what these can do.

709f86 No.95905


Yeah I've read that too. Considering people hit middle age in their teens and 20s nowadays lol. I hear even 500 years ago doctors would examine men as if they were women because of how far they'd fallen.

>Could this be used in body transformation?

Please expand further.

84f300 No.95906

Reposting >>95775

>Where can I find some good video resources on the Science of Breath's techniques?

f9c855 No.95908

I'm finding it hard to stop thinking the kinds of thoughts that perpetuate the things I'm trying to get away from, e.g. I try to focus on the feeling of accomplishment and being proud of myself in meditation and then spend some of the rest of the day feeling the opposite, since it's what I've felt throughout life until now (there are other examples). Any tips?

964b33 No.95910


Focus on polarizing to a masculine will state, not a receptive feminine one. In other words snap out of your meditative state of mind as soon as you're done meditating. Don't think about that shit the rest of the day.

Emphatic Assistance: Turn from half-asleep "im so proud of myself" into fully woke "I AM BURNING ALIVE THERE IS NO THINK ONLY DO"

964b33 No.95911


Alternative Emphatic Assistance:

Be like Earth that is slowly shaped by the Wind. Choose long term goals then just focus on getting there in one piece, not short term results that pull you in every which direction. Be a rolling boulder that gathers no moss, only mass. We call those GAINS, fool.

Otherwise you fall apart all the time and go nowhere, because your results rest on clouds and are made of wishes.

416633 No.95912

Anyone got a link to that Lain suicide cult imageboard?

There was a thread about it here, but it's gone now.

83914e No.95914


Omgz like that picture of lyke trump with lyke his shoes untied is like obviously from some like butthurt libtard big deal that doesnt mean its lyke a big deel so like stop talking about my favorite aristocrat? Ok, so when that picture of an aristocrat from the other fake party with his shoes untied came out i lyke made lyke a big deel about it but lyke thats cus hes a corrupt member of the eleet trump can lyke literally do nothing wrong i fucking love justin bieber.

83914e No.95915


Omgz like that picture of lyke trump with lyke his shoes untied is like obviously from some like butthurt libtard big deal that doesnt mean its lyke a big deel so like stop talking about my favorite aristocrat? Ok, so when that picture of an aristocrat from the other fake party with his shoes untied came out i lyke made lyke a big deel about it but lyke thats cus hes a corrupt member of the eleet trump can lyke literally do nothing wrong i fucking love justin bieber. >>95351

83914e No.95916


Everyone is in on it. We are all driving you crazy to steal your smoosh. I am controlling all these people from my lab to drive you mad because when you go insane you produce very good hoosh. Thanks for all the yoosh! You are such a good goosh maker!

83914e No.95917


No. Jews are gross. Thats why I *cUrSeD* them and they all look deformed as fuck. This is hell. Jews are the only people retarded enough to become the master of hell instead of ascending.

d6d86f No.95919


This man is under the impression that he is in the front train, where the breaks are located, as a matter of fact, he is not.

Everything else holds true, thanks for the foosh.

d6d86f No.95920


Know your limitations?

38a02a No.95921


I'd also pick up the Corpus Hermeticum

Yeah, it's fine if you don't understand it at first, the more you read and do the more you'll learn

Grab Bardon too

52e2d6 No.95924

I've forgotten why I do magic (besides edgy fireballs n' shit). What are some good selfless reasons to do magic? What's a good cause to dedicate yourself to?

>inb4 jus 🐝 urself

ca2e72 No.95925


Fight the enemies of humanity, increase your knowledge and power and help others to do the same. What else do you want to do?

dc211b No.95927

I need help, I need to fix my mental health and become a stronger person, I'm such a weak minded person. I come here because it seems /selfimprovement/ is gone and you guys are knowledgeable on the inner workings of the mind. I don't know if I want to dabble in the art of magic, but how would I go about fixing myself? I'm really gonna try my hardest to meditate and stick to it but I don't know what else to do. I'm sorry my post isn't related to magic, I just don't know where else to turn.

dc211b No.95928


I don't know if I want to dabble in magic because I'm not sure if it's satanic or not. While I'm not christian I'd rather not mess with satanic stuff.

d6d86f No.95929


It is but you're the victim of millennia old disinfo campaigns to take away the peasants (you) power, to deny him enlightenment and supremacy, denying him heights he might be able to achieve.

f9c855 No.95930


Try the recommended reading list.

e19640 No.95931


Don't worry your post is definitely relevant here, we're all trying to improve ourselves too. I recommend doing the first few steps from initiation into hermetics, the first steps are all about identifying your faults and ways on balancing your good traits and bad traits and developing new desirable traits. Check it out, the book should be in the library or is easily accessible through a quick Google search.

Also if you want to know if it's "satanic" or not, the only way you'll know is to judge the material for yourself or just take our word that it's not. Good luck brobro

4fb90e No.95932



Thanks a lot. I'm really serious about this, I hope to learn a lot from that book and from browsing here.

>Also if you want to know if it's "satanic" or not, the only way you'll know is to judge the material for yourself or just take our word that it's not.

I'm not at all knowledgeable on the subject of magic but I assume there's magic that can be used for good and bad magic. I'm not gonna jump into that right away, I want to start with that book you recommend initiation into hermetics. Thanks again.


Well I'm unsure, your post is conflicting with >>95931 I'm gonna have to look more into it. As I've said I suppose there's good and bad magic. Thanks.

4fb90e No.95933

File: 0f520396c099ba9⋯.png (12.36 KB, 480x89, 480:89, Untitled.png)


Which should I read?

f9c855 No.95934



I'm a different guy, but personally I wouldn't say IIH is a good place to start. The Kybalion is a lot less intimidating/long/practice-driven, and building an understanding of these systems is important.

4e3da9 No.95939


So you mastered magick now?

Care to write a TL;DR book about it to avoid the thousands of pages on the fringe library sticky?

e19640 No.95940




The kybalion is mostly philosophy though and I'm getting the impression this guy is looking for practicality. Also the first steps of initiation are Ez as fuck. If he's looking to understand hermetics then yeah maybe kybalion is a better place to start. If he wants to get started on basic practices then initiation is probably a better place to start.

04f16b No.95941

I'm constantly overwhelmed by my own massive energy and the only release that proves effective is regular masturbation. What else can I do instead?

e19640 No.95943


Had same problem, start lifting m8

dc211b No.95944



I'm gonna read IIH first and go from there. Thanks a lot.

e19640 No.95945



Should've mentioned to check halfchans /fit/ sticky.

964b33 No.95952


Stop stifling your personality and use that creative juice to have fun.

Sol -> Will -> Mind -> Body -> Matter.

Expansion, Personality and Passion -> Sol

Concentration, Purpose and Direction -> Will

Discernment, Analysis and Rationalization -> Mind

Physical Prowess, Mobility and Ability -> Body

Assets, Status, Reputation and other established things -> Matter

d9289b No.95953

Reminder that all metals on Earth were created within it. All metals can be created or transmuted given the proper method.

How do you think the Egyptians got so much gold that was so pure?

4e3da9 No.95955

I've been lurking here for about an year now but I never binge-read the recomended reading list, just the most famous ones like IIH and Kybalion

That being said, I know this question was probably asked dozens of times now but… how do I magickally obtain a gf? (not a specific girl)

>inb4 that's no what you truly need in your life

>inb4 fight those desires instead.

964b33 No.95956


Why the fuck do you need magic to get a girlfriend. Why don't you walk around in full bullet proof combat gear because you're afraid of getting shot one day.

The only magic you need is to relax and have some basic self-esteem. Don't try to be a chad and game girls into fucking you just open up the Personality Pores© and let your skin breathe.

Start by sitting in public places doing your shit. Then try doing something that requires personality (creative writing, painting, music, online chat rooms, singing, etc) then start talking to people in real life.

Take it easy, meditate, relax.

d9289b No.95957


>how do I obtain a gf WITH MAGIC GUIAZE

This is like asking how to kill someone "with magic" just fuckin do it lmao

d9289b No.95958

>anon walks into a meeting place for physicists

>"how do I get a gf with physics halp me"

>"you can't bro just like talk to women"


f9c855 No.95959


>just b urself bro

I bet you say the same thing to people on /r9k/ and /v9k/ and wonder why they call you a normalfag.


The same way you'd manifest anything. Reading more would help. The Arcane Teachings, The Arcane Formulas, Reality Creation Redux, Magical Use of Thoughtforms and any other books/articles about creative visualization, chaos magick and creating thoughtforms would help. Also, you could just manifest a girlfriend, but without manifesting the personality traits that would attract one and keep them attached to you, it'll take a long time or very specific circumstances, and they might break up with you quickly. I'd suggest manifesting those personality traits. Autosuggestion, as well as that other stuff, can help, obviously as well as becoming more in touch with will. Embody as many of the traits of someone who attracts girls as you can (confidence, extroversion, maybe normalfag tastes if you don't care as much about her personality, etc), and it'll help a lot. That'll mean giving up the comfort of not facing the aspects of yourself that you're self-conscious about, so that might take a lot of effort.

964b33 No.95965


I wonder why your self-esteem is based on a niche internet culture of depressed dysfunctional NEETS and their pitiful existence.

Bottom line is you need personality and a healthy level of self-expression to form a relationship. I'm hitting the problem at the root. Second to that is discovering a variety of interesting people who also have personality and healthy self-expression. Those with the former tend to get the latter without trouble or effort.

89094d No.95966

Is the Prometheus Rising book bait?I started reading it and got to the part where it asks you to visualize a coin and then look for it after, I spend hours and hours looking for that coin everywhere and still nothing, what I am doing wrong?

f9c855 No.95967

File: 912dd4abe016564⋯.png (34.91 KB, 805x556, 805:556, 1467858338935.png)


>your self-esteem

This isn't about helping me, it's about helping that anon. I'm not a KHV. I don't need or want that kind of help. We don't even know if that anon is. What I said about your reply I said because you seem like every other person who has ever tried to give advice to a robot without having any comprehension of what being a robot is like. Also, we're on /fringe/. He wanted magic advice.

964b33 No.95977


Sorry, misdirection of aggression. I understand the robot. I am one. Slowly turning android. probably android by now. Honestly eastern arts/practices help me tremendously in tandem with willing "Positivity emanating from my soul".

Certainly I should mention my methods before my arrogance and ignorance.

1. Emanate bliss from the depths of your soul

2. Tree pose meditation (standing meditation). Cultivates inner strength, balance, wellness, chi for magic.

3. Exercise, body weight and high reps. Through out the day. So you don't have issues and have more energy to work with. You don't want unexpected symptoms when you're nervous around a person, so having a decent constitution can be very helpful.

4. Cycle through the elements with a focus on revitalizing and circulating and improving Water to be receptive enough and fluid enough to find your new dream girl. To "chart your course" to her.

e3cf03 No.95979


Oh shit you're doing all the things I'm doing and wanting to do. Why is it you're doing all the stuff I do and want to do?

e3cf03 No.95980


Maybe I should just write a guide because there isn't one method you know. There's a shitload of different ways to acquire GF. You can just ask God for one and work out the details with God as to what you agree to or you can just pick a woman and start using the elements on them to reprogram them to love you.

e3cf03 No.95981


The Kybalion is a seed you must plant into your mind.

It doesn't matter if you don't understand it at first, understanding will germinate in time.

The Kybalion is the best place to start because it's the master key; the key that opens all doors, that puts all other occult readings into context.

By itself; it may seem useless. Reading it however and THEN reading other stuff will make that other stuff make way more sense.

964b33 No.95982



Well I certainly don't think "reprogramming" someone with magic is ethical, and is quite hypocritical as you seem to think you have a connection to God, yet it would make much more sense just to find the ACTUAL person that'll want to be with you and you with them.

Also I consider the Eastern Arts to be very Water and I just follow their philosophies and mind set for self-development. For myself it is the perfect balance. Easy going, happy, relaxed, peaceful, balanced… yeah.

d6d86f No.95983


you fuck off you cunt, he needs both books no matter what.

If you haven't read the Kybalion you don't know after which laws of physics, fundamental laws the mind operates, IE, you can't make your ownrituals or working and will be dependant on other bullshit occultists rituals.

d9289b No.95984


Thanks for the message Obullshitist, but I'm not converting to the Curvh Of WWA.

d6d86f No.95985


First internal alchemy, refine yourself as a person, learn to laugh, learn to be easy going, careless and graceful.

Second cultivate your raw attraction, done by energy work and affirmations in the different chakras during deep meditation or trance, positive affirmations related to your goal for each chakra.

Learn to love yourself, the Earth, its people, only when you have love for yourself can you spare someone else a little.

Last work on attitude, carefree, graceful, "I could spend some time with you girl but don't fuck up cause you might not deserve me and you're not getting a second chance."

d6d86f No.95986


>i am retard

>use rock to beat nail making shelter

>guy gives me hammer bi strings attached

>keep using rock, hammer scary, hammer so superior i would have to workship the creator in relation to how retarded i am

d6d86f No.95987

File: e3143984528faf3⋯.webm (1.84 MB, 854x480, 427:240, 1450539378263.webm)

im so dump i can't even spell.

here have a distractionary picature.

d9289b No.95988


>have hammer and nails

>guy offers to give me free screws

>hammer screws into wood


Kybalion is Trash. Read the Emerald Tablet and the properly translated Corpus Hermetica.

ea0cce No.95989

Is it really only possible to know true happiness after experiencing true sorrow? What counts as true sorrow?

f9c855 No.95990


What makes you think that's the case? Where did you hear it?


How about, instead of just calling it trash, you explain why you think it's trash? I have never seen a person on this board who has called anything Kybalion or WWA-related trash explain why they think that way, and they always stop replying when I ask them to explain. If you're not just memeing like everyone else, explain.

06e9a2 No.95993

>If you want to astral project then imagine yourself outside of your body. That is all that is required. This immediately places your awareness within a thoughtform on the mental planes. All the various techniques of astral projection that are described are just different ways to imagine this. You can sit down tonight and think up hundreds of different ways to imagine this and carry it out yourself, you don't need to go around asking people to give you examples like the rope technique and so on.

Found this somewhere on this board. Should I imagine myself in first person in my imagined body?

7b6a8f No.95997

File: 67ebb29461ace2c⋯.jpg (56.36 KB, 600x453, 200:151, 1467899500036.jpg)


Not him but WWA's books could be called trash since after you've read one of them you've read all of them. The guy was a major armchair occultist which explains why Smiley put so many of his books on the recommended reading list. It'll keep neophytes who know no better reading the same thing but worded differently for hours and hours, thinking they're absorbing new things but in reality they're learning nothing new at all.

If you've actually read through two of his books and didn't realize this you're a failure of an occultist as you're unable to discern recycled bullshit from true pearls of wisdom. Incidentally, although the Kybalion is written by him as well, I don't think it's a terrible starting point as long as the neophyte goes to some practice oriented text like the IIH or the Book of Knowledge immediately after.

195ec1 No.96000

File: 8d5bfcd918b5835⋯.png (159.02 KB, 764x744, 191:186, MONTALKISGOOD.png)

195ec1 No.96001

File: 8249e5a837e034a⋯.jpg (98.76 KB, 600x593, 600:593, Famous-Rapper-flashing-Bli….jpg)


Cuz Kangz know where a)) da F R E S H LUUT's at

195ec1 No.96002



195ec1 No.96004


>What am I doing wrong

You're finding the coin, you need to found the coin.

e3cf03 No.96011


How is it not ethical? How is it hypocritical? If you can do it, it's fine. Higher is always allowed to override lower.

d6d86f No.96014


It is unethical. To intrude on someones free will is unethical, doing so with magic, for unethical results, sex, money, is bad karma.

People here hate karma.

Karma is the actions you do that determine your persona, abusing magic will align you negatively, not just here on the physical realm but also the spiritual realms which you've glimpsed.

If you are locked to a vibration because of your actions its hard to rise above or swing between vibrations, therefore its hard to visit different realms, it impairs you ultimately.

480776 No.96015


I guess that guy is a bullshit occultist then?

d6d86f No.96017


sure, or you could think for yourself.

e3cf03 No.96019


>hammer screws into wood

You retard, you don't hammer screws into wood, you screw screws into wood using a screwdriver.

e3cf03 No.96020


Sometimes you have to read a book 10 times over.

If you're reading it worded a bit different each time, all the better.

e.g. The Bhagavad Gita is recommend to be read 7 times.

Deal with it.

480776 No.96021


I was referring to the anti-WWA crowd might say, not myself

e3cf03 No.96022



> Should I imagine myself in first person in my imagined body?

Doesn't matter as long as you're displacing your awareness to being outside of your body.

Usually btw when you do step 1 of IIH you become hyper aware of your surroundings.

e3cf03 No.96023


It is not possible to intrude on someone's freewill. A person can only be modified because their is an aspect of them that resonates with and receives what you're sending. You may as well be arguing right now it's unethical to heal someone, unethical to talk to them, unethical to have any interactions with them. There is nothing inherently wrong with changing another person.

If you want to change a vibration just literally focus on the opposite polarity and wait. That's all there is to it.

Why are you saying "people hate karma"? There is good karma "aka good causes" and bad karma "bad causes".

Making a woman into an ideal mate for yourself is a blessing upon them potentially.

The only thing I'd argue against it is, it can be difficult and inefficient, when compared with trying to find someone who is already mostly or entirely what you want.

d9289b No.96026


Note to readers: this man has been previously institutionalized

d9289b No.96027


That's not how it works. In more than 99% of cases the "karma" of a person is determined at birth from the quality of the spirit they are imbued with. Those who are lower cannot become higher except through great work, and there is not a lower state than the human condition. Wrong action is committed in perpetuity by the masses. Only those born or manifested with higher spirit such as Jesus, Buddha, Hermes, et all have the ability to descend through wrong action. So in respect it does not much matter if Smiley rapes the minds of people, though he is not capable of it of course, as it will ultimately not do anything but lock him into his current circle of ignorance and suffering.

To take from another is to take from yourself, to give to another is to give to yourself. Take only that which is freely and truly given, give all things freely and truly as you are capable.

52e2d6 No.96035


>and there is not a lower state than the human condition. Not niggers, not reptilians, not even fucking Alpha Point. Yes sir, we goyim sure are a bad lot!

e3cf03 No.96036

The Death Urge is the Urge for Real Life

e3cf03 No.96037


Note to readers: this anon uses ad hominem personal attacks, refusing to address the content only, but rather re-centering the conversation on the unrelated bullshit

e3cf03 No.96038


>To take from another is to take from yourself, to give to another is to give to yourself.

To take from another is to take from yourself and give back to yourself, to give to another is to give to yourself and take from another.

Fixed for you.

52e2d6 No.96039


>ad hominem


>Those who are lower cannot become higher

Don't even try to be a wizard goy, get back in your cage!

52e2d6 No.96040


Why step one?

d9289b No.96041




Keep thinking you're being oppressed by them Jews 👌🏻

d6d86f No.96042


you perpetually rise and fall in vibration with each passing thought.

you can be pure throughout life but if yourape a toddler on your deathbed and indulge in those emotions you set or tune your vibration at that point in time and will pass on to to the astral plane you resonate with.

same thing applies with the time you meditate before going astral.

d9289b No.96067


If you are not physically immortal you may as well be a toddler. It's not like perfection of the body is that hard, given a decade or so of dedicated work it can be found through any of multiple paths.

d9289b No.96074



>it's ad hom to warn people the guy giving them advise is diagnosed with mental conditions, obviously emotionally unstable, and has been institutionalized

This is like saying it's ad hom to warn a parent their babysitter is a convicted serial child rapist 👌🏻😂

d6d86f No.96084

>people here really think they'll have a stable vibration leading to longevity and immortality or be able to throw fireballs

kek, these bullshit occultists.

e3cf03 No.96086


Me the immortal who needs to accelerate his growth in order to age his body some more because I'm stuck in a teenager's body.


e3cf03 No.96087


>muh psychiatry

Oh btw, you just described, literally every single person on /fringe/.

d9289b No.96089


>letting the blind lead the blind is a good thing

Please just give in my friend.

e3cf03 No.96092


All you ever do is shitpost on here calling everyone bullshit occultists and stirring drama.

d9289b No.96098


It's not shitposting to call an obullshitist what he is.


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964b33 No.96103



I'm the original "unethical" poster:

If I punch a child in the face for no reason other than being incredibly angry and hating their happiness and innocence or some other shit, it's wrong. They didn't invite it, you're just a predator. Beliefs aren't reality. Your belief system is NOT reality. People don't "invite" vibrations just like people don't "invite" their country to have a CIA dictator implanted and subsequently shot in the back of the head for who the fuck knows why. The universe isn't "PLANNED ALL ALONG MOTHER FUCKERS HAHAHAHAHAHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE" Will is Will and it is individual. It is free to do as it Wills. The Universe isn't a fucking teenager playing COD or TF2.

This is a fucking stupid meta-game of "But if God is real then I can eat babies" dumb Inverted Satanism where "Deus Vult!" means you can mind rape people because they were "literally asking for it with that slutty dress" aka the "rape culture" tumblr meme was raised from the dead by a necromancer and now you're fucking it.

964b33 No.96104


Clarification: Original poster claiming your intentions are unethical.

03139a No.96108


I can tell, his post speaks for itself.

e3cf03 No.96113


Strawmans: the post.

44e12e No.96114


>Kybalion is written by him as well, I don't think it's a terrible starting point as long as the neophyte goes to some practice oriented text like the IIH or the Book of Knowledge immediately after.


964b33 No.96116


That's what your beliefs are. Empty and meaningless concepts without substance or reality.

f9c855 No.96118

e3cf03 No.96126

Axiom 1. Influence takes place any time you interact with another being at all.

If you simply interact with someone, you're influencing them. You'd have me believe that's unethical. Well, you might as well just commit suicide right then? Stop being a part of the world; because by doing so you're constantly having an influence in the consensus reality.

If you're going to say mental influence is inherently bad and paint me as a bad person for wanting to exercise influence on others, you're a dipshit. You should probably just stop influencing me right now with your posts which are provoking my responses and hang yourself.

Axiom 2. This influence only takes place because they are receptive to it in some capacity.

e.g. the physical body receives the punch, the open mind receives the message, the sensitive empath receives your feelings, etc. There has to be a part of them that's open to what influence is to come through. Otherwise certain things can't happen. When a person's present mental or physiological states preclude an influence from being taken in, then shit can't happen.

Axiom 3. Synchronicity is a real and valid phenomena.

There is an implicate and explicate order (David Bohm); events are non-random and are the result of previous causes. There is also a tendency of the universal body to be self-preserving; just like within the body of man the organs and all the cells generally work together for the preservation of that body so too with God. As above; so below (principle of correspondence).

When shit happens, there always was an attractive force that brought it together. I'm not talking here about whether anything is "justified" or not, the rational mind justifies things, but I am talking purely about shit happening. When you get punched or someone talks to you or someone heals you or whatever, it's because your overall mental composition was in resonance with those events taking place. Btw, if you have any experiences with precognition, you will know that you can know about events before they come up and either let them happen or try to set up new causal chains higher in the order of things to prevent it.

e3cf03 No.96127

Axiom 4. Higher acts upon lower. You are allowed by God only to act upon others in this way.

When you are able to exercise any kind of influence on a person (be it "good" or "bad", "justified" or "malice") it is because you do so from or by a higher influence that lets it happen.

>While mastering the mental exercises of this step, a mastery of shifting the consciousness enables the practitioner to comprehend and control any living being or object. A hermeticist could shift his or her consciousness into a wild animal to tame the creature in an instant. The human spirit has the capability to shift consciousness and thus guide and manipulate an animal’s consciousness. However, the true goal of this step’s exercises is to prepare the practitioner’s mind to ultimately connect with higher noble beings and Godheads. Although in this case, the higher being or Godhead will manipulate the practitioner’s consciousness, which is inevitable since the higher will always control the lower spirit. Furthermore, we will learn that everything, no matter how small or large, has been created through the Divine spirit, and thus in everything we will find the four elements with Akasha in the central position. The student should meditate upon these words.

The above written by Seilia Orienta pertains to the complete domination, influence, and control of lower beings. Is she an immoral "Satanic" bullshit occultist? Is Franz Bardon "black magick"? This is the exact kind of influence to which I was referring to earlier in this thread when your sperg out began. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing inherently wrong with coming into contact with a higher being, and them manipulating you as a consequence; and there is nothing inherently wrong with you doing the same to beings lower in the scale than yourself.

You seem to have a big fat issue with the way God made the world. You're all buttmad that it's possible to influence others and just assume that because I can and will influence others, and indeed without asking for permission, I must be a bad person. You know what someone's permission means? It means fuck all. The only permission I need is God. As to whether it's good or bad, there is a simple test for that proposed by Atkinson:

>This teaching of the “I AM I”—its powers and its possibilities— is not “milk for babes”: it is rather nourishing food for strong men and those who wish to become strong. The practical test of Truth is: “Will this make me stronger, better, and more efficient?” This teaching will meet the test of Truth, for it will assuredly make you stronger, better, and more efficient. It is in accordance with the Law of Evolution, which law proceeds to manifest on the spiritual and mental planes, as well as the physical plane. Fall in line and proceed with the Law of Cosmic Evolution, and the Powers of the Cosmos will come to your aid, and you will become as one of the Elect: if you oppose or run contrary to the Law, you will be ruthlessly pressed to the wall, and discarded as unfit. In the one case, you are nourished, supported, strengthened and encouraged by the Law; in the other case, you are relentlessly crowded out by its operations.

An action that undermines yourself is not good. You need to build up yourself, so as to grow stronger in the divine attributes, and come closer to God. Whether you have attained to the highest stage of morality depends on your interpretation of the self. The man who does good for himself at the expense of others is bad. The man who does harm upon himself and others is a very rare sort of pure evil. The man who does good for himself as long as it doesn't harm others is a very average man. The man however who does good for him Self, where the self is identified with spirit, has attained to true morality. Such a man can only do good; even if outwardly (and because of your myopic POV) you can't tell.

For some gay ass reason you just throw a ton of strawmans at me and ignore and misinterpret what I'm actually saying.


*tips fedora*

e3cf03 No.96128



7b6a8f No.96129

File: 43d8f028fe54e7b⋯.jpg (81.81 KB, 309x451, 309:451, 1442827657487.jpg)


If you have street shitter IQ, then yes, I guess you would need to read something a dozen times to start understanding it.


>there is not a lower state than the human condition

>animals aren't a lower state

>minerals aren't a lower state

You could tumble pretty far down from being a human tbh. It'd take some serious effort to actually devolve into an animal's mind but it sure is possible. Incessant shitposting is one of the actions that leads to it :^)


>not opening your third eye and influencing the drivers in front of you to drive a little faster every time you get sick of how slow everyone is going

e3cf03 No.96130


You can't just read about god once and understand God.

By your own standards you're a pajeet because you obviously still don't comprehend God after reading about Him.

e3cf03 No.96132

Can someone please condense and successfully summarize, as clearly as possible, in as few words as possible, ALL of the teachings in ALL of Atkinson's books; but all in one book? (Maybe Kybalion excluded)

This way we don't have to keep recommending Atkinson books. We can just create a new PDF that has all his teachings on every subject altogether and stated in a non-repetitive way.

7b6a8f No.96133

File: bd27a91ee64bf46⋯.jpg (77.08 KB, 255x255, 1:1, 1443216961053.jpg)


>to understand God you need to read about him

>you don't need to meditate and actually get close to whatever God is

If you read X amount of books, I'm sure you'll become an enlightened sage one day fam.

03139a No.96134


>Maybe Kybalion excluded

Good point as it was probably not even written by him.

e3cf03 No.96135


I had to read The Kybalion when I started reading it years ago literally 10 times over start-to-finish because back then I was mentally impaired retard.

Despite that I have overcome my own retardation and now am a pretty average intellect individual although in some ways exceedingly mentally powerful. I can't seem to remember and follow a stack of orders given to me and have to like complete a few of the orders then go back and ask what the rest was. However I don't have nearly the same mental fog I used to, my memory overall is a shitload better, my comprehension is better, my visualization is amazing and photographic-tier, and I accomplish much more now in a day than I would have in a month back when I was a mentally impaired depressed retard posting on wizchan's /v9k/ board all the time.

e3cf03 No.96136

sheeiittt this flag is the same but white

7b6a8f No.96137

File: 6132d7eb28c0662⋯.gif (141.06 KB, 278x300, 139:150, 1446799784988.gif)


Glad to hear it anon, improving your mental faculties is a wonderful feeling.

03139a No.96138

e3cf03 No.96139


>to understand God you need to read about him

Strawman. I didn't say that at all. Why aren't you quoting what I actually wrote? You literally just wrote some other bullshit of your own making and responded to your strawman.

>you don't need to meditate and actually get close to whatever God is

I never said that either.

Also, unless you've god some weird knack for tuning into the truth and finding quality sources that don't have any noise in them, you're always going to have to read around a lot on a subject before you get a good overview of what is known about that subject.

Could you not read on it at all? Yes – but you're a dipshit then because reading is more efficient and easy. Don't do things the hard and slow way, actually benefit from the work of our ancestors.

>If you read X amount of books, I'm sure you'll become an enlightened sage one day fam.

I'm sure if you think you don't have to study or you set up strawmans where you're either limited to only studying or only meditating you won't get to sagehood either. You should seek out God and then use every resource that comes your way, be it in the form of a book, a visitation by a spirit in your dreams, a man speaking to you, etc.

04f16b No.96140

Are we actually getting raided? I've seen the "obullshitist" meme spewed more in the last week than through all of the rest of the year.

Why the fuck would anyone raid this dead dumpster?

e3cf03 No.96141


>Good point as it was probably not even written by him.

I excluded it because The Kybalion is already as condensed as possible and can't be condensed further. You can't re-write The Kybalion.

It's all his other works though that COULD be condensed into one book, since there is a lot of redundant stuff he repeats from one book to the next, usually with just slightly changed terms (e.g. one book he'll call the prana "prana", another he'll called it "vril", etc. just changing it for different religions/cults).

I think The Kybalion was written by him.

I think Atkinson is a great author. He has only ONE fault; he drags shit out into hundreds of pages that could have been said in much less pages.

7b6a8f No.96143

File: 566db45a89b06a2⋯.png (133.5 KB, 500x405, 100:81, 1449645138256.png)


>muh strawman

Must be hard living a life where you never experienced the joys of reading a philosophical or occult text for the first time and noticing correspondence of thoughts of the writer and you own based on your previous meditations. Keep reading hundreds of books if you can't come to most of the conclusions made by men hundreds of years ago on your own. If someone can do things differently then you shouldn't try to stop them.

>You should seek out God and then use every resource that comes your way, be it in the form of a book, a visitation by a spirit in your dreams, a man speaking to you, etc.

I'll agree with you here, so let's stop this pointless argument.


I seriously wonder if there's a single person here who read Mind Power in its entirety without diagonal reading at least once.

03139a No.96144


>I think The Kybalion was written by him.

I used to orginally think it was written in combination with Paul Foster Case, Michael Whitty, and Charles Atkins. These three being the "three initiates" and former chiefs of the Thoth Hermes Temple. However, it is possible that WWA did play a role, but I don't think that role was ever near the role Paul Foster Case played in the book. The title alone has importance when broken down in Greek gematria. The most prolific scholar on gematria at that time was Paul Foster Case. The debate does continue to rage on and there is no settled answer, but my money is on Case as the main author.

d9289b No.96145


I myself have never spammed the term. I coined the phrase "obullshitist" late 2015 on /fringe/. Since then I have used it no more than 20 times.

d9289b No.96146


>Higher acts upon lower.

It's literally "As above so below as below so above. As within so without as without so within".

I'm sorry ken but it has been years and you haven't moved an inch. Slow and steady may win the race, but not if you're going in circles.

964b33 No.96147


The concept of mental influence or influence in general is not evil, or unethical, but influencing via "love spell" rather than going through the proper channels of direct communication and relationship development. Consent exists. The fact that there exists a way for MORE or LESS consent to exist, and you choose the NEGATIVE polarity of this, reveals where you lack development. The one who is misinterpreting is you. The Universe is not perfect enough to not need the presence of ethics and ethical consent.

Maybe you should supplement your mind with some writing on Ethos, Pathos and Logos so you can understand a rather fundamental and simple concept.

964b33 No.96148


Seriously your Ethos and Pathos is absolute dogshit-tier. Maybe you should focus on greek and eastern philosophy.

d9289b No.96149


And you are creating a straw man too. The specific point I was trying to convey is that action can only be Good if it is for the ultimate betterment of that person.

Treating people as if they are below you and you are somehow superior will gain you nothing.

7b6a8f No.96150

File: 8c9a872c194b6e2⋯.jpg (136.98 KB, 845x668, 845:668, 1449494567224.jpg)


>The Universe is not perfect enough to not need the presence of ethics and ethical consent.

What the fuck am I reading? Being a wizard who can change reality with his will, do I have to ask people for consent before thinking about them? Is this what some future wave of feminism going to be about?

Jokes aside, I do try to think only positively of people so don't worry.

e3cf03 No.96151


t. raider characterizing the board as "dead dumpster" even though it's still and always has been a top board and it's near 100k posts.

Be gone shill, this is easily one of the biggest and most active occult communities on the whole internet.

e3cf03 No.96152


>Must be hard living a life where you never experienced the joys of reading a philosophical or occult text for the first time and noticing correspondence of thoughts of the writer and you own based on your previous meditations. Keep reading hundreds of books if you can't come to most of the conclusions made by men hundreds of years ago on your own. If someone can do things differently then you shouldn't try to stop them.

What is wrong with you? Why do you hate reading so much? Why do you emphasize doing shit all on your own so much? Why not do a balanced mixture of study, practice, meditation, self-realization, etc.?

What and who exactly am I supposedly stopping from trying stuff? I just make recommendations, suggest good authors and books, share knowledge, write and post my own findings, etc.

I just apparently made the heresy of mentioning Atkinson and have to suffer anti-Atkinson retards like you grilling me for liking an author that most of the rest of the board likes as well.

You STILL have no actual valid arguments against Atkinson and are a butthurt faggot.

e3cf03 No.96153


Pill me on "diagonal reading"?

What is that?

964b33 No.96154


Stop exaggerating. I am not saying to not attract people to you, to not be charming, to not mentally influence others, to not use persuasion.

I am saying to respect others and remain reasonably ethical. There are things that should be honored rather than thrown aside like they're nothing.

e3cf03 No.96155


I would be interested if you like, made a whole thread, and put the subject as "Who Authored The Kybalion" and then like gather together every website, screencap, saved text, and whatever else you got on the subject.

Do you have the hard-copy of The Kybalion btw? I have one where it has this big fat section at the start where it explains Atkinson wrote the book and then after the book there's also another section called "The Seven Cosmic Laws". I think my version of The Kybalion is called "The Definitive Edition" or some shit, I have to go into my books bag and dig it out and check to see again.

d9289b No.96156


Anyone who still needs books is a neophyte.

e3cf03 No.96157


Someone keeps calling everything obullshitism or similar variants of that and shitting up threads everywhere with non-constructive single line posts just making these accusations.

e3cf03 No.96158


So do you have a problem then with what Seila Orienta says and do you think we "act upon God"?

Please clarify the shit out of what Seila Orienta was writing for me.

d9289b No.96159

>instead of creating positive qualities within myself which will cause people to respect and love me I'm going to bend people to my will like animals and exploit those goy cattle

Sorry but this does sound yewish if you look at it objectively.

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03139a No.96160


You may enjoy this little debate on the subject.


964b33 No.96161


This is a very good point to put down on your Wizard Ethics Scroll


Let I make the amendment that some things are better not to be pushed or persuaded past, as one should be conscientious of the frailties and foibles of humans well enough not to take advantage of them.

Study the Greeks for fucks sake. Chivalry? Honor? Rightness? Goodness? Do these mean nothing to some of you? Logos is imbalanced without Ethos and Pathos.

964b33 No.96162


Well said.

Is he the Smiley character? I hear he is in actuality a yid with self-loathing. It's the internet though so anything can be said.

7b6a8f No.96163

File: 132e897854eef48⋯.jpg (57.52 KB, 480x479, 480:479, 1449616100297.jpg)


I think you're the buttblasted one here m80. I never said that it's pointless to read at all, I'm saying that some people here spend too much time reading and not doing. If you like Atkinson that's fine, no need to get so asshurt if someone says that he repeats things in all of his books because he's a shekel chaser who only had wisdom enough for one great book but a man's got to eat so he rewrote it 30 times.

Practice transmuting your emotions.


It's basically a reading technique to get through pages a little bit faster than reading things word by word. Google it, there's plenty of material you can read :^) about it.


>Do these mean nothing to some of you?

Not really, I've transmuted my negative qualities years ago although I still find issues with my character here and there, pls no bully, it's an ongoing process and don't feel the need to follow some moral compass made by other men. I personally don't think a person would be very moral and righteous if they have to think about what's the moral thing to do before doing something, rather than just doing and knowing that they have done the right thing.

d9289b No.96164


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7b6a8f No.96165

File: eda70c0ff86bb70⋯.png (98.86 KB, 288x405, 32:45, 1451389497263.png)


>new BO is a freech user

You're kidding me right?

0456aa No.96166

Sometime there's a sharp pain in my right thigh. It's random and I have no idea why it happens. Any clue what it could be?

d9289b No.96167


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03139a No.96168


Blood clot, you have an armchair bro for to long.

d9289b No.96170


Either you eat junk food full of salt and sit for most of the day and don't stretch or you have cancer.

03139a No.96171


Smiley is stabbing you from the astral plane because you haven't read enough WWA.

7b6a8f No.96172

File: 7e1c921e5538bb7⋯.jpg (77.09 KB, 275x347, 275:347, 1453239489570.jpg)


>Freech is free as in freedom.

It's shitposting cancer and you damn well know it. Though I guess since the new BO isn't nuking this board with shit I can't complain. At least we don't have to worry about the BO killing himself and the board going to an even worse faggot.


Get a standing desk, it's great.

0456aa No.96173



>sitting down to much

seems possible but it's on the side of the thigh which I don't know how to stretch.


Well at least I have a reason to go into the astral now.

d9289b No.96174


>astral plane

Why do people use this obullshitist term? It's the mental plane and mental projection.

d9289b No.96175


Yes freech is shit, but it's better than /pol/ and /leftypol/ without argument.

7b6a8f No.96176

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Need to stay consistent with the terminology or people will get confused and call you an obullshist back.


That's like, your opinion man.

Bunker /pol/s = best /pol/s.

e3cf03 No.96177

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There are some writings by Collin Wilson, Max Freedom Long, and J. Finley Hurley that shed light on this whole process of relationships and love.

If you've read their books, do you recall that stuff about "unconscious sorcery"?

I don't see why a love spell is an improper channel at all. We naturally do this shit to each other anyways, when we start feeling love for them, and imagining them loving us back, and sending sexual energy to them. The whole spellcasting thing is a formality of what is a natural power used unconsciously. Magick is just using the unconscious powers consciously, intentionally, and with mastery. Until we develop into magicians, we are all sorcerers, even if we don't have the spooky LARPy stuff going on.

Like seriously – just because you add a little supporting structure to it and make it into a "spell" with some chanting and ritual it's bad now?

Consent exists; but at many different levels. The verbal consent of a person means nothing. The spiritual consent of the higher self of that person means everything; and believe me, NOTHING would happen to them, if their higher self didn't allow for it.

In actual fact, falling in love is a wholly magickal process, and there is nothing wrong with it as long as it's a pure love. The love either won't reach and move them in which case nothing comes out of it OR it will act on them and move them to love for you. That whole spectacle of communication and what you call relationship development is nothing without the subconscious powers already working up that love. People invariably fall in love when their subconscious ideation makes them do so.

You shouldn't bother to seek someone's consent if that means something like "will you be my GF" or "m'lady, please love me, I will completely refrain from sending you love until then because that would be casting a spell on you".

Literally, all love is magick, deal with it. Love is the law; but love is under will.

Here are two formulas, one is bad, the other is good:

1. I intend that (x-individual) shall fall deeply in love with me and I with them and I and ask for the Wisdom to come upon me and show me what would be the fruits of this love.

2. I intend that (x-individual) be seduced by me so I can exploit the shit out of them to fulfill my fantasies and arbitrary desires.

The first one, properly formulated, should let you know if such a relationship with x individual would be worth having and its intent is actual love. The second one is basically some dickhead saw a pretty girl or nice boy or whatever and decided they have to have them because blah blah blah (ungodly reasons).

Now, both of them are directed at a particular individual. For EFFICIENCY's sake, and not because of any moral reason, this is a better formula (and one I've posted again & again in the various threads where these questions about love have come up on this board now over the years).

I first tell them they shouldn't fixate so hard on the girl they have decided they want. Then, I basically tell them to use this:

3. I intend that a suitable available partner shall come to me who will walk the same path as me, who will grow with me to know the deepest love, and who will not be held back by me or I by them. I intend that they be as perfect for me as circumstances allow and that they come into my life at a suitable time but not too late, perhaps this year (or you can specify a few years later or whatever but if I was going to do this myself right now this is how I'd word it). I intend that God prepares me for this relationship and that when it begins I shall have already reached the maturity to make it last.

(I would start invoking the elements also while doing this, starting with fire, and going through each one I need as I begin a ritual-trance that would involve visions n' shit like I usually do every single night).

d9289b No.96179


>invoke the elements

Tell me Smiley, can you even boil a thimble (5ml) of water with the elemental meditation outlined in IIH?

964b33 No.96182


I'm aware of the concept, and it is leagues different from ritualizing a spell in order to bind someone to you. One is fluid and its tides may easily change if it's a naturally weak bond or it's strong if there's a naturally strong bond. The ritualized magic is the difference between grabbing someone's shoulder and saying "Don't go" but letting them leave when they pull away anyway, and knocking them the fuck out and tying them up in your basement.

And stop projecting the whole "M'lady" sperge shit. Enough memes. Your books are memes and your life is a meme. You're rule by memes. Books are to be understood and discerned with wisdom, not cybernetically attached to your fucking spinal cord.

I'm guessing you've already done these love spells and nothing has come of it though. In that case you likely are a love repellent and need to drop this construct of artificial mystique and spirituality and just realize your humanity rather than your "Godliness."

You have no power just power fantasy. Maybe this is why ethics are irrelevant to you? If you had any power you would have confidence, and you would leave your home and find someone.

The first "occult power" you should seek is personable confidence and perspective.

03139a No.96183

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d9289b No.96186


It has been what, 5 years or so now, and Smiley is exactly the same. People have told him what you are saying many times. Humility is the first step to wisdom. I went through a phase similar though not as extreme in most respects as he is in during my late teens. Could be he is just slow grower and needs a strong event to wake him from his delusions. Honestly eastern spirituality would likely help him more than new thought, but what can you do eh.

e3cf03 No.96208


How is it an "obullshitist" term?

There's a lot of different terminology and multiple glossaries because muh multiplicity of traditions all aiming at and describing the same underlying perennial philosophy.

If someone wants to talk about the astral plane, why is that term not a good one for it?

d9289b No.96209


I find that there's generally a lot of bullshit and mysticism tied up with terms like that. Mental projection is a relatively useful way to project your Awareness, but most people who "astral project" are simply lucid dreaming.

e3cf03 No.96210


Just curious; can you?

…and if you can, can you make or bump an IIH thread, to help us along in developing ourselves to do that shit?

e3cf03 No.96211


How is lucid dreaming not a projection of the awareness?

How is AP supposedly just limited to remote travel and remote viewing of the physical plane?

I oersonally don't like that term "lucid dreaming" or even the term "dreaming" because it's so imprecise and there is so much phenomena that falls under it. Any of many various mental states, experiences, etc. can be encompassed within what might be called "dreaming". When people "dream" a lot of different shit is going on.

f9c855 No.96212

>question thread

>half the thread is an argument

e3cf03 No.96213


ProTip for you buddy: I've never actually done a lovespell and only ever requested from God to receive validation from women on specific days.

I have not yet reached a point where I actually want a wife.

Yes, I want a wife – but not now, not with the shit going on in my life, and not having a car, and not with this huge backlog of books I want to read for mostly aesthetic reasons (I trance out while reading books and I take great pleasure in the reading, I don't really need to keep reading so much).

If I casted off

>3. I intend that a suitable available partner shall come to me who will walk the same path as me, who will grow with me to know the deepest love, and who will not be held back by me or I by them. I intend that they be as perfect for me as circumstances allow and that they come into my life at a suitable time but not too late, perhaps this year (or you can specify a few years later or whatever but if I was going to do this myself right now this is how I'd word it). I intend that God prepares me for this relationship and that when it begins I shall have already reached the maturity to make it last.

I'd fail the maturity requirement. I have barely ever invoked Earth or worked on that element at all. The other three elements I've worked on, at various points. I used to be strong only in one element, then I built up two more, but I still got to work on Earth and have barely even started.

>the rest of what you're saying

You don't know me faggot. I have a kind of stuttering, unstable, chaotic power that flares up really intense and in silly ways and then burns me out. I've done a lot but I have no stable foundation, hence a lot of my problems. I am not yet a very balanced individual.

You're a big meme yourself. Memes rule everything, deal with it.

As for,

>I'm aware of the concept, and it is leagues different from ritualizing a spell in order to bind someone to you. One is fluid and its tides may easily change if it's a naturally weak bond or it's strong if there's a naturally strong bond. The ritualized magic is the difference between grabbing someone's shoulder and saying "Don't go" but letting them leave when they pull away anyway, and knocking them the fuck out and tying them up in your basement.

What are you even saying here? You're apparently talking to me about two different things, but what is the other thing you're talking to me about? Are you saying there's a difference between rituals and spells, and that one is supposedly ok and the other is not?

>Maybe this is why ethics are irrelevant to you?

In other threads on this very board right now there are people accusing me of the very fucking opposite, saying I am too caught up in ethics, to disregard ethics, that ethics don't matter, etc. while I argue with them about how important UMK and ethics and virtue n' shit is and go on long rambling rants about virtues.

d9289b No.96216


Why do you feel the need to expound on your personal situation to strangers? I have never said a single thing about my personal self online and for good reason, I mean come on nobody gives a shit.

d6d86f No.96219


>havent hit puberty yet

>probably immortal

you sure? i mean if you're sure i wont question it.

d6d86f No.96221


>>not opening your third eye and influencing the drivers in front of you to drive a little faster every time you get sick of how slow everyone is going

sure but

>children and mothers die as a consequence

d6d86f No.96222


we've had this discussion before.

we came to the conclusion that if someones free will does not want something it interferes, therefore its ok to send and receive feel energies to and from others.

i, personally, see this as drugging someone, but i do cast love spells, mostly and only on girls im dating, to keep not just hers but my interests up.

i would not intrude on someone elses emotions like this if i really didn't have a reason as its considered black magic, and doing what i am doing is borderline cruel and evil, manipulating others free will, to any extent, is to rob them.

it is for the record a lot easier to just find the rhythm and the girl and things that comes along.

d6d86f No.96223

d9289b No.96226


He's like 25 according to himself tho

d6d86f No.96228


Ah, definitively an immortal then.

Nothing to see here peopple, scuffle along.

d9289b No.96232


Immortality is definitely possible. Though I'm not sure if the purely spiritual path is practical as it takes so much time and dedication, upwards of 100,000 hours of solid spiritual development as a rough average. There are several alchemical paths which are much more practical but I doubt Smiley has used this method as the costs are substantial generally.

d6d86f No.96237


theoretically possible. just like throwing fireballs.

d9289b No.96238


Throwing fireballs is impossible.

d6d86f No.96240


is it now?

d9289b No.96241


"Magic" doesn't mean you can do things that are impossible, science simply does not understand or explain the actual fundamental and basic Laws that govern reality.

I mean I suppose you could somehow get water molecules to separate and undergo rapid nuclear fusion while binding the explosion in a moving gravity wel. Yes that may be possible, but definitely not for humans. You would need to harness more energy and Will than is possessed by humanity as a whole.

d6d86f No.96242


everyone take this to heart, now we just need to work on karma.

21290b No.96245


All you another physical alchemist? I do agree that the costs can be exceedingly high, but the feel of doing something with your hands is invaluable. From my experience there is no greater joy when going through a process where the results are seen tangibly seen while being felt internally.

a0a76b No.96250

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Opinions on the Hermetic Tarot by Godfrey Dawson?

Which deck do you use? Which resonates the most with you?

Bad experiences with AC deck (Thoth)

21290b No.96252


I own the deck but I don't use it much as some of my other decks. How did you have a bad experience with a deck?

83914e No.96254

How to achieve ENLIGHTENMENT

Get over yourself. Go a day without thinking about what other people think.

Accept that we live in a computer simulation, everything technically already happened, we are all the same person, and this is just an amusement park we come to to delude ourselves.

Then, inevitably run into one of the dweebs who are like "Dewd no you are wrong I just got my masters degree and my life is great and I have no way to counter your statement so I'm just gonna be like "Haha the matrix! Neo dude!" since Hollywood controls 90% of my brain and at the end of the day I was actually built into this to drag you back to fakeality by being a prick since nobody likes to be challenged and told they have a dud for a brain."

Then, fall for that person's shit and play the zombie game again. You are dumb. This is your ego speaking. Don't ever say I'm not real again.

Then, say holy fuck my ego is annoying as fuck. Fuck that shit I'm getting to the bottom of this.

Meditate on the thought that this is all scripted and we live in a computer. Start looking at how us building AI is no different that ABRAHAMIC GOD building humans. Think about how we use all these number systems just like computers. Our brains fucking work exactly like computers.

Tell yourself again, no, no way, I am super special, I did this and that and had this and that happen, and this is just a trick someone is pulling on me. Start looking at other peoples belief systems and realize that their shit makes absolutely no sense compared to yours. Trick your ego by saying "Yeah, this computer simulation belief is unconventional, but I will be special and unique if I keep going with this! And that will give me the same glory I would get from being the pope!"

Then start observing how stupid all these made up religions are. Feel immense pain as you watch unnecesary things which could have prevented if everyone faced reality happen. When fed up, bring yourself 100% to your beliefs and say no, I am getting to the bottom of this.

Then, you accept that you are right. It will drive you completely insane, and you will wonder how you could ever delude yourself into playing this game again. You suddenly understand why you have died billions of times.

Then, you just want to find someone to take the pain away, but you realize that persons just another form of you, and everything is temporary anyways so there is no point in wasting time worrying about feelings.

Then, enjoy your reward: We may just be locked in a computer, but that opens up unlimited possibilities. You can adjust your character just like you would in World of Warcraft. You can make expansions, or entire new games. I know I was able to immerse myself in my MMO character just like it was an extension of me, and it was fun as fuck. I am content with the fact that I am just a character in a game because my pleasure is real.

Then, start looking at all the belief systems which people claimed to be the ultimate truth. They aren't the ultimate truth, but those people are onto something, and you might as well play the long game. Being nothing is fucking stupid.

d883e7 No.96256


Bumping my question again.

The guide here describes using a memory palace and using Servitors (called Tulpa here). Your servitors are meant to "store" information into your memory palace and retrieve it for you automatically. Though there are other guides on how to make typing servitors or HUD servitors, in this guide there’s not guide on how to program servitors to specifically store and retrieve memories like the guide describes.

How do you program servitors to store and retrieve memories from a memory palace for you?

Also could using self-hypnosis give me a perfect memory?

I have spammed this a few times now. Maybe I will once more

872c08 No.96257


I tip my hat to you, young squire.

076f53 No.96262


Where is the World?

d9289b No.96263


This is dumber than thinking the Earth is flat. Have fedoras ever considered the dogmatic institution of "approved" science and the media which supports it ridicules alchemy and philosophy to keep you ignorant?

d9289b No.96264


I do some physical alchemy, but the difficult thing about it is sifting through the disinformation. There are no legitimate processes online that will create more than a tincture and for good reason, if you can't come to the wisdom directly from the source, God, you aren't ready to ingest even a minor stone

48445c No.96265

I've been doing a few kinds of energy works with my body. I can easily move energy around legs, arms and torso, but my head feels like stone.

What could cause this? I can't move anything up there.

21290b No.96266


Well it is good to meet another one as we are a small and niche group. I am saddened that Triad publishing closed their site a number of years ago. They had an extensive collection of material. Luckily I was able to grab Jean Dubuis's collection of his coursework for the old Philosopher's of Nature. I took John Reid III's prius 7 and prima courses when I first got interested. He still puts them on but the price is very high and that is not considering equipment. Which reminds me that Reid's Minor Opus lecture is gone unless he still supplies it. It was released through Triad Publishing as well. An interesting discussion and walk-through towards the creation of the Circulata Minor.

The mineral work is indeed very dangerous, even Regardie got damaged from it. With a proper fume hood and suitable safety equipment it can be practiced, but like you said the products you make may be dangerous to take if the inner state has not progressed. One issue I run into is I am in a state with a lot of Meth production, so the collection of equipment and supplies can raise a few eyebrows.

Ora et Labora friend

076f53 No.96277

How much of your day/free time do you guys spend on occult practice/study?

21290b No.96281


However much you feel you need. Consistency in practice is the most important thing. Reading should be second in priority to practice.

d9289b No.96282


I'll let you in on a secret friend.


The pyramid when in correct proportion and aligned towards the true axial north can change the properties of all substances. As far as I cuurently understand it the pyramid brings elements and their compounds into a higher state somehow.

You can dissolve metals with the pyramid. The more pyramids of ascending size you stack the faster the metal will dissolve. I'll let you figure out the application of this, but you can easily test it with a gram of pure metal in a dark sealed glass container. By the way, the author of this PDF died and I believe it was an assassination, so this is the most I'll say on the matter

d6d86f No.96284


massage where your skull meets your spine and follow the muscles down your neck.

d6d86f No.96285


very little.

you want to reach a stage of thinking in 4d so that magic is effortlessly in every step and breath you take.

its an awareness of the third eye that allows you to feel/see not only how the energy flows in your body but around you, in other people and even in objects.

higher knowing operated by the subconscious, having a mental imprint of see/feel everything around you.

having attained this, i don't know what it is, rituals and works now no longer take more than a couple of minutes where previously it took hours to find the emotions needed for alchemy and reaching out to people is easier than ever.

i was naturally blessed with accurate vision but all the mental circus acts i to had hoola hoop leading me to -this- have resulted in a near instantaneous instinctual knowing leagues ahead of previous detective skills.

f9c855 No.96289


Scratching the area of your body that you want to focus on helps. After enough times, you should be able to do it without having to do anything.

a6a1c2 No.96293

Is there a way to induce some physical characteristics into the fetus? Blue eyes, for instance.

d9289b No.96294


Make your own eyes blue, make the mother's eye's blue, there.

a6a1c2 No.96295


I'm asking If there's a way to increase the chance of It.

Like, I have brown eyes, the mother has blue eyes. I want to increase the chance of the baby having blue eyes

964b33 No.96299


You're a victim of the Dogmatic Occultist Disease, all your knowledge is rigid and dogmatic, and you need to circulate mental energy.

Though your knowledge may be correct or relatively so, your creative associations are Jurassic.

I recommend being emotional and going on a vision quest. Go for the Shaman's Journey vibe, where it gets ultra surreal and trance like, and your soul flies into meta dimensional quasi space.

21290b No.96300


Interesting stuff, thanks for sharing that! I am planning on enlarging my work area by building a separate structure away from the house, in case of fire and to keep fumes away from family and pets. This actually sounds like a perfect idea.

44ef05 No.96303

So I'm making my way through a /fringe/ recommended reading and am currently having real trouble with "The Arcane Formulas." At the beginning of the third chapter it states that after having performed the exercises in the previous chapter I should be able to command my physical functions.

I absolutely cannot do this in spite of the fact that I've practiced the formulas in chapter 2 to death. Do I move on in spite of the fact that I clearly haven't mastered the current formula, or do I just practice the same formulas indefinitely?

d9289b No.96304


Read The Kybalion

Then read IIH with the Rawne Clarke companion.

Once you finish step two of IIH read through The Corpus Hermetically and The Emerald Tablet, while continuing IIH.

Ignore the reading list is my advise, it is not very good.

63110c No.96305


>Are you a 30 years Tibetan master cultivator? I mean, surely, it sounds so easy from this armchair I'm sitting in

d9289b No.96307



I fully acknowledge I am an neophyte. There is not a single true initiate on this board. Humility doesn't kill you.

28b6c5 No.96308


Would a true initiate/adept ever acknowledge that they are such? I get the humility angle but there must be a point where they can look at their progress and say "Yes, I have reached that level"?

e3cf03 No.96309

If you study magick seriously you are a neophyte.

If you practise magick and have obtained some results you're an initiate.

If you have become skilled in a magickal practice you're an adept.

If you have become a master of all or at least a wide array of magickal practices you're a magus.

That's all the ranks mean. I hate holier than thou faggots with their virtue-signalling.

e3cf03 No.96310


>Ignore the reading list is my advise, it is not very good.

Absolute shill-tier. Everyone should just dig through the libraries and start opening books and looking through the indexs and then just reading what they want and find interesting.

d6d86f No.96315


Before anything, before your time is out, before death again, master your body, more importantly and leading to, master your astral body and know it's shape and form in this vessel,this vessel is proportionally perfect, despite its flaws here and there.

If you can't assume a human shape mentally in these realms and feel as if the blood is flowing together with your energy circuits, you shouldn't be spending to much time in the astral.

What he's doing are the late gme first steps of mastering this.

It's much different from subconsciously and naturally assuming a form, this way you're always in control, a state where you're always now through the awareness of your body, like with breath.

His works might be rigid and boring but I don't know how many countless hours I spent doing these practices of moving energy around to get accustomed with it all so I can throw firevalls at aliens trying to fuck with me when I enter the mental Internet because my body wants to sleep.


Sorry to break it to you but doing energy work and uncoiling the snake powers up chakras responsible for emotions you haven't even felt a want to feel yet and this makes you question, it makes you ask yourself if x or y is a nice thing to do to someone and if you would want it to happen to you.

Empathy. Allows you to make great moral dcsiscions, which you don't have to act on because you're in power, not your emotions, and leads to a "power", related to feeling energy in yourself and others and around you, the extra sensory abilities you get from leveling up empathy is being able to tune in to what others are feeling and the vibe of the room.

Unfortunately morals, empathy, being able to feel, take and give emotions, love and grief, having it all express itself in natural non autistic ways, all came with doing advanced energy work.

d6d86f No.96317


Yes, move on.

It comes with practice but you might lack some knowledge needed to make full use of it so speed read everything you can find then meditate on it all and cross reference between books, videos, bloggs, you name it, for the truth and what works.

This way is much faster. You will learn everything at the same time, see how they are connected and at a later time figure out how to use it better.

I can't properly stress how valuable the teachings ìn the kybalion are.

Anyone dissing those laws is a 100% concentrated bullshit occultist who only knows how to make sigils.

d6d86f No.96318


>stabilise the lower charas you managed to open this far

>wait some days while massaging neck

>deep meditation time

>lie down

>gather enough energy in root for you to twitch and become restless

>move the warmth up each character, slowly, don't continue until one is glowing bright in its designated color and the body part feels like molten rock

>reach third eye and have it blast/shatter an invisible barrier to crown then cycle the new energy, this one feels drastically different from warmth, it's a trickling feeling of cold fire/water which can only be noticed in subtle twitches of the etheric body, it does not really express in the physical body until it makes you move

>having unlocked this crown energy, forcing the 'gate' open for it to come through, take some breaths with your nostrils ,on each breath in you are to breathe in a way that makes your ears level/neutralise air pressure, with every breath in drag this crown energy to the root, 'stick' it there and use it to pump root energy to third eye, or crown, or any other body part, specifically chakras you need to work on

Don't let your mind move your body, move your mind to move your energy in motions without sharp turns and without high net loss in momentum/energy to make your body move.

e3cf03 No.96321


>Our brains fucking work exactly like computers.

Except they don't at all.

e3cf03 No.96325

I have just woke up from a long astral-rant in which I was discussing jihad with others via halal yoghurt.

What did my tranced out self mean by this?

d6d86f No.96334


Maybe you should put aside the Jihad for a bit Ahmed.

e3cf03 No.96335


[jihads internally]

28b6c5 No.96341

How many of these flags are designated shitposting flags?

When are we going to get an Ammit flag?

04f16b No.96344


ALL of them lad

63110c No.96351


>How many of these flags are designated shitposting flags?

From my experience, in order:





edgy fuckwad


jew (Shlomo)

jew (Zionist)

loosh farmer

pill (blue)

pill (indigo)

meme (Smug Frog)

rank (Magus)

special snowflake

wizard (chaos magician)

wizard (Illuminati)

wizard (Satanist)

83914e No.96354


Hi Tinydick "Closethomo" Cop! Hows the weather in Creepland?

83914e No.96355


Omg dude u did it. U got a tattoo. Look at all those eyes staring at you! U r so special. Look at everyone patting u on the back. Ive never see anything lyke this before. U conquered ur ego nd r now the master coltist. U r so freakin special m9.

872c08 No.96358


wow, ur alter ego is 9 years old and a powerful psychic, u r the prodigal son dood, u did it, ur not just a pixel anymore.

d3df91 No.96359

How do I practice mindfulness?

d6d86f No.96360


there is only one pleiadean, hes dead serious and totally bonkers.

d9289b No.96361

You are all schizophrenia kill yourself before I do it

-T3h L0rD Ur G0d

d9289b No.96366


More and more my suspicions you are yewish aren't confirmed,

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d6d86f No.96367



asshat, he wish he was as woke as the average hermeticist

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63110c No.96372


>How do I practice mindfullness

Basically, mindfullness meditation is being, mindfull, of your thoughts. For example, when you steal your senile grandmother's heroin, shoot up and say, "I'm feeling it now Mr. Krabs!", you ask yourself, "Why did I say that specific quote?", and after a long 5 minutes or so of healthy introspection, you realize that SpongeBob was playing on the TV next to you when you said it. Eureka! You now realize your a 2d reactionary animal. Maybe if you shut the fuck up (practice no-mind meditation), you'll tune into your higher self thoughts and grow some real character!

e3cf03 No.96373

63110c No.96374


Is he right about fireballs on the Causal plane tho?

f9c855 No.96376


How come you can't say Jew or Jewish? It's always joo or yewish with you. That's a common trait of shills.

d9289b No.96377


>muh shills

Go back to /pol/edit you mentally ill kike😂

63110c No.96378


You didn't answer the question, "space brother"

e3cf03 No.96385


Me the blood, edgyfuckwad, loosh farmer, indigopill, smug frog, special snowflake, chaos magician, and illuminati.


e3cf03 No.96386


When you upload one in the other sticky? Please upload any and all flags with a suggestion as to description for each in the other sticky that is currently up.

964b33 No.96398

What will imagining explosions, plague death, and acid death of every mentally perceived thing that annoys me do? And just constantly happening around me like a storm of death.

There is much mentalist trash I wish death upon, and it is getting increasingly effective and satisfying. I am feeling a release like pressure is being lifted off of me.

964b33 No.96400


Any method of death really. I feel that whatever is around me astrally needs to die.

b005b8 No.96402


The only one I know is to focus on your breath. It's good practice for mindfulness as distracted or racing thoughts ebb away and the awareness of being in body increases.

d6d86f No.96404


Yeah, no fireballs for you on the casual plane unless you build something like the arc to project guided external energy. Everything you learn is to be brought back to the mental.



Consider empowering your third eye so you can get the imput of their visage and purpose then trapping one of these "demons" from around you in geometric figures, first a sphere of light, to which you gather all the entities remaining presence, then a square around that to make sure nothing gets out, then a pyramid ontop of that, keep the structure stable and fill it with violent, purifying light to smother, burn and pressure the entity until the pyramids energyflow combined with pressure in the structure starts blasting energy from the top, at which point the entity is already dead, to much high presssure, high intensive, high frequency energy condensed in one place works like radiation, it breaks down the entity, its tiny automaton mental powers can't keep its shape together, its dead as fuck.

Adding a pyramid is optional, its just as an extra fuck you, I'm going to water my lands with your blood.

Consider taking a little bit extra time when trapping it in the sphere to breathe into the sphere all the qualities of the entity, as you do, you remove them from your body, you feel where these mental parasites are lodged in the body, at which chakra they leech and breathe from that place in the body, coaxing the "black smoke" out of you and into the sphere.

If you don't get an image or idea of how this entity looks, your subconscious takes care of interpreting the entities purpose and creates and image to reflect them, it could be an idea to manually create an image for the "demon" (or vice, for which this works much better) and work on building it up much in the same way described above, and then to chain it, master it or slay it.

d6d86f No.96405

almost had a heart attack, had a 404 for 15 seconds before i got redirected back here and the post was posted



f74e78 No.96409




Thank you very much. Perhaps I thought this a bit too complicated.


Going to try this. I haven't tried to raise kundalini in years.

d6d86f No.96411


Oh, to be able to do this you need to be able to think in.. a way that is similar to see through CAD. Deep trance, awareness not on the body, not away from the body but in the mental.

Its entirely indescribable.

Learn by making platonic solids in your minds, first see them in 2d then spin it to emulate 3d next feel it to see the other side of it. Or try matching your breath with a circle in your mind growing larger and smaller in tact with your breath while moving your awareness into the sphere, feeling it contract and expand.

acea28 No.96426

So last night I was tripping on dextromethorphan, nasty habit I know. I picked it up in my youth, it actually led me deeper into the occult, but thats another story.

Im sitting in my room minding my own damn business when I hear a frequency set off in my left ear. It didn't feel normal, it had a huge presence but little substance to it. The frequency stopped and out of nowhere a fly comes from behind my head, flies around me and out the door, and Im just sitting there speechless. I was in my room for about 30 minutes in pure silence, there was no fly in the room. As I was describing the situation to my mentor and how I couldn't find the fly after that, it came into my room just inches from my face and then flew away, as if flipping me off. Banished and gtfo for a walk to clear my head of the trip.

Ended up having a deep conversation with an old friend about career/life paths and building virtues instead of letting your life waste away. This morning I find out one of my friends almost got choked out by an ex-veteran, was hanging out with the wrong crowd who just wanted to have fun.

Im mainly curious as to what type of entity would be attached to that fly as I didnt find it. I banished my room once and the whole house once and left, no one came in or out till I got home so Im hoping it stifled its energy. I don't want that shit in my house. Im done using drugs, life occasionally gives me weird omens and syncs to get my life right. Just thought it was pertinent to the discussions here. Thoughts n stuff appreciated

d3df91 No.96446

When you are mindful of breath do you observe the stomach, or the entire path of air?

0629ef No.96464


The entire path of air I would think.

Have you read Theron Q. Dumont - Personal Magnetism? Around Chapter 8 you might want to read that.

066074 No.96465


I know snakes are used up north of where I am by shamans to spy on each other. They control the snake and see through the snake. I know a shaman that kills all snakes he comes across as a consequence. Snakes can easily get into anywhere also through any small crack.

964b33 No.96467


Damn, shamans and magicians are spying on neophytes making ripples in the Aether.

That reminds me, anyone know anything of Taurus demons? Bull demons. I once directed… internet energy or computer energy at one that I noticed in my presence after hearing a heavy breath and it BZZZT …. BZZZT …. BZZZT out the fucking window. I guess I store a lot of energy in my computer or I can use its energy well.

af1763 No.96472

What is the best energy work program?

fff14c No.96477


I prefer Hyatt's Radical Undoing. He had a certain brutal honestly I found refreshing.

ed5882 No.96480

Where is good info on shape shifting, gender swapping, etc.?

e3cf03 No.96481


This kind of stuff greatly interests me. There's some book I have on shapeshifting. I don't think it's really that great though. I have aspirations of becoming a shapeshifter.

964b33 No.96496

Books that will assist me in becoming an immortal warrior? Mostly the warrior part. Very long distance to close combat, assassin to brawler, sharp perceptions to strategic tactical advantages, everything relating to in some way being an effective warrior.

63110c No.96499

File: 346b005595bf40e⋯.png (200.27 KB, 1794x939, 598:313, immortality.png)


>immortal warrior

The immortality part can be achieved through many ways:

'’'Chi Gong:''' Clear and perfect your energy body. Cultivate vital energy, and live in perfect balance with nature

Alchemy: Create and correctly ingest the Minor opus, absorbing its energy and repairing your dna

The warrior part, well, there are no right or wrong answers. Just know that on all planes above the Material, war is always psychology/energy based

964b33 No.96505


Do people on Earth fight interplanar wars without realizing it?

Which of the two is easier? Alchemy or Chi Gong? Why does there always seem to be a psychological war going on with people on Earth but, definitely not physically?

3a3bea No.96506

What's the easiest way to break the conditioning of the physical world/matrix? How do I get my mind to accept the reality of mind over matter and the like? I feel like I've amassed a wealth of knowledge but little in actual power, as I don't think I've ever seen anything with my own eyes that I could consider fantastical or paranormal, and I feel like subconscious doubt is weighing me down.

964b33 No.96507


Well to be honest matter over mind is a lot more reliable and effective. Understanding all the mechanisms of reality is easier than mind games with reality.

fff14c No.96517


>Which of the two is easier? Alchemy or Chi Gong?

The practice of spiritual alchemy and Chi Gong are very similar just different in description. Lab alchemy is strenuous both financial and for safety reasons. However, the route towards obtaining the Minor Opus is the bridge from the plant work to the mineral work. It is a long process and if you do not have the money to purchase a number of pieces of glassware, then you are better off going a purely spiritual alchemy route like Chi Gong.

63110c No.96536


>Do people on Earth fight interplanar wars without realizing it?

Yeah, the normalfags calling you crazy are unconsciously doing the Orion Group's bidding, grumpy assholea ruining your day are controlled by astral parasites, and when you see a happy person sit with some sad people and eventually get bummed out, that's a frequency war.

a0a76b No.96538

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acea28 No.96540


Ive heard before that witches primarily use insects with their witchcraft, but I honestly don't know any witches adept enough at that kind of thing. The only witch I know can make potions that work and read tarot but that's about it.

Whatever was behind that fly definitely understood that I recognized it wasn't just a fly, but since I banished the fat fly has not been seen, nor has it gone outside. Let's hope that's the end of that.

63110c No.96542


Why would magicians spy on each other?

e3cf03 No.96552


Why would they not? Everyone who thinks thoughts and feels feels and forms intentions and imagines is a magician.

63110c No.96553


It seems like someone skilled enough to use an animal sentry would've done the bnw mirrors, and with that I don't see how they could gain from spying on other adepts

b2a0a5 No.96559

File: a77d3712f353bbe⋯.jpg (27.79 KB, 638x475, 638:475, 830153a372d1ccd0640a6b961e….jpg)

I have this problem that I think is due to having an overactive third eye. I'm constantly deep in thought, so much that it creates problems in other areas of my life - I'm extremely clumsy and uncoordinated, I tend to neglect taking care of physical needs, I forget what people tell me and have to get them to repeat what they say often…all due to living inside my head too much. I've been like this all my life. For almost a year now I've been practicing 'mindfulness'/mu meditation, since I thought it might help my 'too much thinking' problem, but I think all it did was activate my crown chakra.

All the chakras that have to do with physicality and feeling grounded, I'm pretty sure they're more than starved of energy…

What is a good way to remedy this? I just feel so comfy in my head, and anything that has to do with the physical world is very stressful for me. I'd like to become more well-rounded.

e907a1 No.96561


You are not the thoughts in your mind, you are the being perceiving them. Unidentify with your thoughts and face reality head on with a silent mind.

Ask yourself inside your mind: "What will my next thought be?"

Focus on the silence and neglect the answer. The answer isn't you because otherwise it wouldn't answer the question that you asked.

Your mind is just a container for thoughtforms that you identify with and thinking in your mind is just another way of saying: "I listen to the ego in my mind and believes I am it".

Embrace the silence of the mind and learn to live with a silent mind so that you can stop being a slave to your ego.

Read this post again and do the exercises if you don't understand it. Break free from the hypnosis.

964b33 No.96563


I personally have had several occasions of weird feelings/vibes then BAM insect lands on me where my attention was unconsciously directed towards.

I guess witches be bitches fuckin' wit me. Explains most things really.



Don't face "thinking too much" with "thinking too much".

1. Start reading a lot

2. Will yourself to extremely capable memory recall

3. Start exercising (3x10 push ups, 3x20 squats, etc)

4. Lazy, healthy snacks like carrots

5. Develop iron shirt (slap/hit yourself until you're iron) for stress tolerance

6. Throw something trying to hit something… hand eye coordination. or toss a ball in the air and catch it. or bounce it off the wall. something hand eye coordinating.

7. Shadow kickbox.

8. Focus on removing the 'darkness' from yourself as a will move. You got white orbs of light, colored orbs of light, and dark orbs of light. Remove dark orbs of light from your body/brain. Use your will/feel it out.. Should feel like what clarity feels like, or the feeling of removing literal shit off your eye balls, lbs and lbs of shit.

A segway between headspace to physical space might be easiest, so reading books will get your brain around shit in the real world… or other worlds. Try to read non-fiction though.

Memory recall will connect events and thoughts into one cohesive structure. Structure is your godsend, physical reality is structure, crave structure.

Exercise for the most obvious reasons. Make it structured, and make this numero uno priority.

Eating lazy health food will help ground you in the physical reality with physical matter.

Iron shirt will help you face stress, boost the immune system, toughen you up psychologically, and boost some coordination.

Throwing shit will build coordination for sure and help ground you in reality with depth perception and spacial relations.

Shadow kickboxing for coordination and OOMPH. Conquering stress with combat.

Removing dark orbs/lights/entities is essential though.

964b33 No.96564


I think they might be exploiting people. Drain them, use them, enslave them, abuse them, whatever it is it probably isn't very good.

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