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File: 435e660879eb808⋯.jpg (8.6 KB, 144x144, 1:1, 3XFnrJm0.jpg)

 No.23127

"Rocky Mountain Fur Con backs neo-nazis, sex offender to intimidate critic for reporting threat"

http://archive.is/HNkya#selection-61.0-61.94

This has to be the most stupid thing I have read in a long time.

TL;DR Some hardcore SJW pro communist furry threatens violence, and talks a bunch of shit on a con. Gets sent a cease and desist letter. Goes full autist mode and breaks out the red string to find a conspiracy. Yes the content he is reporting on are just as retarded as he is. Everyone in this situation is absoultly bonkers, including me to care enough to make this thread I guess.

Is shit ever going to go back to normal?

 No.23131

"Communist furries". You can't really get any more awful and useless than that.


 No.23134

>>23127

>Is shit ever going to go back to normal?

Not at all. I don't mean to be self-depreciating or negative, but you shouldn't be surprised by the prevalence and influence of narcissistic loonies since it's the only type of fandom that will accept and encourage their awful behavior. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised one bit if folks like Artdecade and KihuBlue defended it.

I can't think about the situation because it's so vindictively dumb. It kills my braincells whenever I try to see it from their perspective. It's as if they believe that they're protagonist of an angsty YA novel (ie. Harry Potter) where they don't want to face any repercussion for any wrongdoing they commit.


 No.23164

At this point, saying something is 'hateful' just filters out to saying 'ignore what this news article is saying'


 No.23246

I honestly hate how it seems like a majority of furries today are taking a hardline regressive left, SJW stance.


 No.23249

File: f3132f11173e13d⋯.jpg (34.97 KB, 250x643, 250:643, hue.jpg)

File: 4f5837bcdcd8839⋯.jpg (12.86 KB, 400x227, 400:227, huehue.jpg)

>Furry says "everyone in this group is racist"

>Another one says "I can't wait for them to show up so they can get punched" (lol yeah fucking right you pussy)

>One jumps in and rightfully says "I sure hope you don't get shot by someone defending themselves from unprovoked attacks"

>Everyone jumps on that one guy saying "ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE GONNA BRING A GUN? VIOLENCE IS WRONG THAT IS TOO VIOLENT"

>Completely fucking ignoring the fact that they said they were going to sucker punch people two tweets before

I'm so fucking done with this stupid ass planet.


 No.23275

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>23246

most, but not all.


 No.23278

File: 96a22e916db35db⋯.jpg (48.46 KB, 345x300, 23:20, Matilda Backfire.jpg)

It's fucked. Lefties are permanently buttsore about Trump, so we're probably looking at 4-8 years of tantrums and borderline illegal activity.

I don't mind people roleplaying as nazis or commies, furry or otherwise, and from what I heard about the "Furry Raiders" they strike me more as edgy IRL shitposters rather than a serious political affiliation with pretty much anything.

However, this "nazi" punching meme thing has to end. Even if they are actual nazis, if they don't break the law or attack you first, you can't just go and punch them. But the left tries to argue that ideas and words can be "violence" so that the next step is them justifying punching you.

Antifa and other commie shits like that are no different from skinhead biker retards and other people of their ilk, except for the fact that they are spoiled upper-middle class shits who don't lift a 60yo woman could kick their asses if they don't have the crowd on their side.


 No.23280

>>23278

And (some) righties spent 8 years being pissy about Obama, thinking he had bad ideas, bad policies and bad actions. Most lefties feel that way about Trump. We on the left don't like him, but we'll deal-- most of us, anyway. The internet amplifies the stupid whiners until they appear to be everybody.

> But the left tries to argue that ideas and words can be "violence"

No, "the left" doesn't. The whiny SJWs do. They don't speak for all of us. Words are just words. Yes, punching people you disagree with is stupid.

> Communist furries

Anyone whose political ideology or affiliation becomes the entirety of their personality and/or persona is annoying as fuck. Leave the political shit at home when you hit a con, be it left, right, whatever. In fact, how about just not spouting at anyone in public? Save it for places designed for that stuff. Most people don't want to hear random pro- OR anti-Trump stuff, and it'll only start arguments!


 No.23283

>>23280

>And (some) righties spent 8 years being pissy about Obama

You mean literally all the GOP in congress, blocking every single thing he tried to do?


 No.23286

>>23249

The funny thing is that she pretends to be a victim about receiving a threat from the con owner after she was doxxed.

When in reality, she received a DMCA letter that detailed her violations (threatening to punch people) after she willingly filled out the information to sign up at the convention earlier. I'm not surprised that she lies, because if she told the truth in it's full context, then everyone would see her stupid behavior for it is.

>>23280

I don't mind hearing words or conflicting views, but the left always wants to take it to the next level. Either through physical violence or getting a convention canceled from digging an old criminal conviction and lying about his association with extremist ideology.

What bugs me the most about that situation and their attitude in general is that they STILL won't be content after all their demands are fulfilled. They will still whine about nazis and they will actively search for any flimsy trace of them. They don't avoid the issue, they constantly make one up because they're constantly encouraged and rewarded for doing so. They're affluent and sheltered narcissists who never break out of their bubble of reading news articles and indulging in entertainment.

If a lot of leftists were like you, then no one would you hate you guys. However, the unfortunate fact of the matter is that the vindictive narcissistic retard who wrote the article from the OP is more influential and vocal than you are. Even a landwhale Forbes reporter, an author who makes articles about "anti-government extremism", cited it:

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab/status/851666150991708160

If you don't want people to bring political shit, then you have to denounce your own crowd as they are the primary instigators.

>>23283

Not exactly true. He passed his alternative energy bill, a gun regulation bill, and had several other Executive orders..


 No.23296

>>23283

>blocking every single thing he tried to do?

You mean like how the GOP blocked him from eviscerating workers' rights, bombing the middle east, drone attacks, and deporting 3 million mexicans? OH WAIT, that actually happened.

>>23286

>the left

liberals aren't leftists, you tool.


 No.23297

>>23278

You don't have to worry about "nazi punching" because it's not going to happen. This is the biggest group of sissies I have seen in my entire life, on both sides. All they'll do is skulk and pass each other in the hallway tossing side eyes. Fuck this whole thing, nobody's going to raise a finger to anyone. If anyone does fight, instantly everyone's gonna have their phones raised to show Twitter, nobody's gonna join in.

Although I will say it's blatantly fucking obvious that the lib-babies started this, they even prove it with the images on their website. That D&C letter was completely justified, if you say you're going to come to the con and hit people, whether you are a spindly hipster faggot who actually will or not, you still shouldn't be allowed to come.


 No.23303

>>23296

She is a self-proclaimed communist who is also liberal. So yeah, she's left-wing and liberal.


 No.23309

>>23275

thanks for the laughs


 No.23310

>>23286

Any reasonable adult will ignore or laugh over these vocal kiddies with radical political views. Acknowledging them and getting triggered by sjw nonsense just makes them seem more influential than they really are.


 No.23311

>>23280

>And (some) righties spent 8 years being pissy about Obama

Oh right, I remember that time in 2008 when the hashtag #notmypresident and #hwndu shot up in popularity and people rioted and devastated the streets all over the united st-

Uhh, wait, no, that wasn't it.


 No.23318

>>23303

>self-proclaimed communist who is also liberal

HAHAHA No. Communists are leftists but liberals are not. They are mutually exclusive. It's not a catch-all term for "ideologies I don't like."


 No.23340

>SJW pro communist

aww, /pol/ and their usual "anyone who doesn't agree with us must be this thing" rhetoric. You really took Dubya's "with us or against us" bullshit to heart.


 No.23341

File: 58e6f1d38c46f3f⋯.jpg (58.11 KB, 800x567, 800:567, 626a98f208cdbfcddb410.jpg)

File: eb27364bbbd7d00⋯.jpg (182.13 KB, 989x559, 23:13, normal anti.jpg)

File: 3468764a79ea517⋯.jpg (149.59 KB, 719x693, 719:693, Anita_SarDavidDukeKeesian.jpg)


 No.23346

File: 948e87a684278d9⋯.jpg (61.5 KB, 267x388, 267:388, serveimage (88).jpg)

>edgy burnout kids join a cute animal cult

>they're a tiny bit nice at first, but rather rude

>they grow older and grow sick of all the superficial kindness in the fandom

>they let out their full edginess to drag down the reputation of the fandom as a whole and to hurt sensitive narcissists in the fandom

>they go to /trash/ to be super edgy and jerk off to cute animals

>permabanned by cuckchan mods

>they come to 8chan, spamming and calling everything shit

>banned for 3 months

>they flock to messengers and F-List, spamming it on every furry place ever

>they go harass women because "dog dicks are way better I mean Rocket from Paw Patrol is my husbando :3"

>sent to prison for 10 years

>come out

>fucked up and rape people

>go back to prison for the rest of their life

Life cycle of almost all edgy furfags.


 No.23348

File: 926bfb038d7539e⋯.png (130.56 KB, 822x607, 822:607, Fr417k.png)

>>23310

I wouldn't take these idiots seriously if other idiots didn't take them seriously.

>>23340

Her words, not ours. You're highly educated, but can't even bother reading a profile bio.

https://archive.fo/5dIE9

>>23341

>>23346

Regardless of what you think about "edgelords" or ebul rightwingers, you're a idiot if you think that it's justified to shut down a con just because you were prohibited from punching people.


 No.23350

File: eff4d73790f58de⋯.gif (620.75 KB, 440x247, 440:247, Western Translation.gif)

>>23280

>we on the left


 No.23355

>>23280

Riiight, because those righties were actively rioting, assaulting people, and burning shit every which way. Because they were starting massive media campaigns to try to make out the guy as being a Russian plant.

I'm not saying you are all shitting on Trump, here, but there's a large number that are going well above the call, and given their actions, it is rather idiotic to compare to another group who didn't do so much as half as much trash.

These guys are your main stream leftists, unfortunately. You need to work on reforming your party, by all means, but right now the face of your organization is these types. Look to your media, your politicians, and see what they're doing in your name.

I'm not even a republican. I think they're a bunch of status quo fuckboys what typically serve the interests of big government.

Also:

>namefag


 No.23356

>>23310

That mentality is what has allowed them to spread, and cause all sorts of issues in countless industries.


 No.23359

File: 06bc3b266bf77e7⋯.jpg (53.06 KB, 356x426, 178:213, 06bc3b266bf77e77a7733108bb….jpg)

>nazi furry

>commie furry

where is all da jews furry and the Trump furries?


 No.23382

>>23348

Op here, got caught up with some stuff, basically everything this guy said is how I would of responded regardless


 No.23383

>>23310

Im gunna be honest with you. That was what I thought for the longest time. I used to think this shit was like kony2012 and would just blow over when people got bored or required more effort than retweeting. Clearly I was wrong, at least about the first part when it comes to the fandom. I would not be suprised if these issues transfer over to real life, and we see people attacked at cons for having unpopular opinions or wearing something deemed as insensitive.


 No.23393

File: 8b6efc94170d52f⋯.jpg (92.14 KB, 202x260, 101:130, =[_.jpg)

>>23297

I know that shit like the furry antifa are basically the pinnacle of autism and privilege, but I'd warn to never underestimate the power of human stupidity. They are cowards who don't even lift, but if you have enough of them, they'll start acting cocky and wreck shit up. They already proved that in the various protests against Milo and Trump.

>>23280

I am actually a sort of centrist and was actually pro-Obama when he was first elected, but he turned out to be a huge disappointment. And actually I think that in spite of congress blocking him occasionally (let's face it, they didn't when he ramps up the warmongering, cause neocons and neoliberals are basically two sides of the same fucking coin), it's just that HE DIDN'T EVEN TRY TO DO WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO, namely turn US' foreign policy around. He's a fucking globalist sellout just like $hillary and I'm not sure where Trump is going.

I was very pro-Trump since even before he was the republican nominee, because he seemed like the God-Emperor who will save mankind the least lying, least dirty, least mainstream candidate, but I'm starting to have second thoughts since the spectacular blunder in Syria (Trump says he will fight terrorism and ISIS, Syria attacks Al Nusra - an Al Qaeda branch, and US jumps in like a retard and attacks Syria because muh dead childruns, literally zero foresight, and they didn't even strike tactically because the base was operational literally the next day). I would have expected him to tell ms. ambassador Nikki Haley to shut the fuck up about Syria, and if the attack wasn't some dick-measuring contest with China, and Trump is serious about turning Syria into Iraq 2.0 I'll have to tear up my MAGA hat. We'll see how this goes.

Maybe I'm a retard for thinking ANY politician can go three months without faceplanting epically.


 No.23394

>>23383

That's the world we live in, yeah. This is why we can't afford to allow idiots to run around unchallenged. Eventually, they'll find idiots who listen to them.

I'm not saying we've got to attack them at every turn. But, just correct the bastards. It's not even limited to just political stuff, either. You know why "clip" is such a widespread term completely misused? It's because idiots call magazines clips, and nobody corrects them, because it'd be a waste of time, they think.

Maybe it is a waste of time, but it's only going to get worse.

>>23393

Really hope the Syria lot gets sorted out. At least so far, he's not doing anything too extreme. But, fucking hell, I would've thought he'd at least be a bit skeptical on this shit. 'Least wait until we have all the facts. Last time, it turned out to be the rebels, from what I understand.


 No.23396

File: 7fbdea70524a8eb⋯.jpg (28 KB, 274x237, 274:237, CGpWxQlUgAA8YrO.jpg large ….jpg)

>>23394

Yep. By "sorted out" I hope you mean just... not doing anything about it any further. Every time the US tries to "sort out" international affairs, it ends badly, for absolutely everybody involved.

He should have waited a week imho. But my guess is (tinfoil hat on) that the "deep state" have fed him false information through the various intelligence agencies in order to try to ruin his presidency, because people from that corner have been consistently talking about getting rid of him. (tinfoil hat off)

I'd call striking a foreign sovereign state with fucking missiles pretty extreme, especially for someone who has been, until now, somewhat consistently anti-war. It looks very bad diplomatically from the outside. Maybe not inside the US because muh patriotism, but diplomatically speaking this was a complete fuckup.


 No.23401

>>23359

THIS. Why are there no jewish furries ???????


 No.23403

>>23396

Pretty much.

I'd not be surprised by the "deep state" lot. It wouldn't be the first time the CIA has mislead the government with shit like this. I'm just hoping we get it sorted before shit hits the fan.

I will say, though, I'm laughing my ass off at alt-righters protesting wars, and hippie shits protesting their protest of war. We've gone straight topsy-turvey.


 No.23404

>>23403

Even if it's true, a lot of children die in every war, they just don't have photos for women in congress to sob about.

I get that it's bad, but I don't see them giving a shit about any country in Africa or South America that is rooted in both corruption and discord. The double standard is appalling.


 No.23405

File: d3e7086e4f6f5ed⋯.jpg (156.1 KB, 1584x771, 528:257, probably_why_he_got_the_bu….jpg)

>>23403

It's the CIA's purpose to subvert and deceive. It's in the NAME. Central Intelligence Agency. The fact that people take anything the CIA says on face value is mindboggling to me. Fucking normies.

I'm getting some massive deja-vu from this week's Syria shitshow. CIA really screwed the American people over by tricking them into a war with Iraq over imaginary "WMDs".

yes, the alt-right seems to be oddly anti-war and anti-interventionism and the formerly pro-peace left seems to be doing olympic tier mental gymnastics in order to justify opposing them. Yeah, I don't know in what alternate reality I've woken up, but it's clearly... not boring.


 No.23406

File: 3792f0677ba1417⋯.png (143.11 KB, 332x394, 166:197, 1406887600871.png)

>>23404

When you see photos of injured children on the news, it's government propaganda and emotional manipulation.

They never show that shit when something happens to kids in the west. Well unless there are guns to ban, but even then they only show bloodstains or censored photos.


 No.23408

File: 1588114fb07ce98⋯.png (11.3 KB, 447x378, 149:126, 1451928349314.png)

>>23406

>When you see photos of injured children on the news, it's government propaganda and emotional manipulation.


 No.23409

>>23401

uh, there are plenty of artists in the furry community


 No.23411

File: bcd4b1399df4cf7⋯.jpg (5.88 KB, 200x200, 1:1, 15537_thumb (1).jpg)

>>23408

...

basically, yes.

>>23401

>>23409

There are more jewish furries than you think. It's just that it takes a trained eye to spot them. Look for copious amounts of disposable income, english given name and German-sounding family name, when you have a pic of them, frizzly hair can sometimes give them away. We need a furry version of jewornotjew.com lol :3


 No.23413

>>23401

>>23411

Well I didn't ask for Jewish artists but the portrayal of jews in the furry art and shit. Because there's a shit ton of bad to ok "nazi" "commie" furry art.I only know that Maus graphic novel though.


 No.23416

>>23413

Why the fuck would you want to see "Jewish furries"? Are you deranged? At least Nazi furs are hot.


 No.23417

File: e4fc1b7e5897502⋯.gif (39.62 KB, 501x585, 167:195, 1441223338399.gif)

>>23413

Well, one of them is an ethnic group and the other two are (horrible but) influential historical political parties that changed the world forever (for worse).

You might as well ask about the portrayal of French people or Irish people or Hungarian people in furry art. I dunno. There's probably a few images around. Probably drawn by people who are proud that they are Jewish I would guess.


 No.23447

File: 427590cc80fb372⋯.png (81.24 KB, 207x171, 23:19, nonplussed.png)

So, what's going on now? Will the con return?


 No.23451

>Will the con return?

After they actually remove the sex offender from leadership, hire an actual attorney, file 5 years of missing tax returns, beg the IRS to give back their 501(c)(3) status, implement a proper code of conduct, and hope that the new/nearby con doesn't cannibalize their base...maybe, just maybe they'll return.


 No.23453

File: f5c13f624383135⋯.jpg (62.95 KB, 494x715, 38:55, Fate of Furries.jpg)

>>23451

Hasn't the fandom always had sex-offenders? What's that faggot-fox's name that's pozzed?


 No.23454

>>23453

>Hasn't the fandom always had sex-offenders?

Yes, and the community tries to keep them out of positions of authority.

>What's that faggot-fox's name that's pozzed?

I'm afraid you're going to have to be more specific.


 No.23458

>>23454

>I just realized how common that is

Can't remember his name now. I was told to be wary of him at BLFC,


 No.23460

Maybe it was puppysky?


 No.23479

What a horrifying, uncivilized trainwreck. What a way to go. I didn't even like RMFC the year I attended but I know how important it was to some. Sad.

Why can't people respect speech that they disagree with? Be a nazi or a communist or whatever, but this is a furry convention! Politics truly aren't relevant here! I WANT to see a fursuiter in a full SS uniform cordially mingling with everyone else because one of the hallmarks of the fandom has always been acceptance... right? Don't talk to him if you don't want to but we are all furries, kumbaya and such... right? I know it wasn't always like this.

I feel like I'm fucking taking crazy pills.


 No.23480

File: ae388f2028a2d11⋯.png (1.42 MB, 1632x2248, 204:281, furry loneliness.png)

>>23479

There never was real acceptance in the fandom, only communal rebellion and degeneracy.


 No.23528

>>23479

>Why can't people respect speech that they disagree with?

As much as they're trying to spin it that way that's not why they canceled the convention.


 No.23530

>>23528

Yes it is, plain as fucking day. The con got shut down because antifa scum wasn't allowed to run free and so they kicked and screamed and dug up some stuff completely irrelevant to anybody but the con chair in order to dunk the entire convention underwater. And to make things worse they are bragging about it, like ruining everyone's good time is something to wear like a badge.

The only comfort I can take in all this is knowing that the people responsible are taking a gigantic risk ever showing their fat, pock marked faces around any kind of convention ever again. They better be preparing for those fights they like to trumpet about, because boy are they about to get into a few.


 No.23536

File: 55c0ccdd2ebbbb5⋯.gif (1.98 MB, 400x250, 8:5, cumfuzzball.gif)

>>23405

Alt-righters are also now the ones who believe in memetics, rather than the weed lmao'd hippies of the 70's.

Is this what happens when horseshoe theory is memed into reality?

polite sage


 No.23537

>>23530

>Yes it is, plain as fucking day.

Sure, it had nothing to do with falsely claiming to be a federal non-profit, failing to file taxes for years, and allowing a convicted sex offender remain as a chairperson after you said you'd remove them and allowing this person to send menacing pseudo-legal threats to people. It was all about some "violent memes" on twitter.


 No.23541

>>23537

All of those are the fault of one or a few people, not everybody who ever enjoyed RMFC. Libel warnings are not "pseudo legal," they're completely legal and that dipshit whore would have gotten trashed in court if the plaintiff would have pressed the issue. There were a thousand ways this could have been resolved other than shutting down the con and both sides know this, but the SJW snowflakes had to take the fun from EVERYBODY so they could wave their arms and say "everybody look how badass we are, we made sure nobody can have a good time." They're scum and they'll be treated like it for the rest of their lives, I hope this was worth it.


 No.23548

>>23541

>All of those are the fault of one or a few people

Those "few people" are the ones running the convention (into the ground).

>Libel warnings are not "pseudo legal," they're completely legal

I wonder what an ACTUAL lawyer thinks of it.

http://lawyersandliquor.com/2017/04/free-furry-of-the-land-when-sovcits-and-furries-collide/

>and that dipshit whore would have gotten trashed in court if the plaintiff would have pressed the issue.

I guess that's why she's pursuing legal action against the person that send the letter, right?

>There were a thousand ways this could have been resolved other than shutting down the con

Was filing your taxes on time and not allowing a sovereign citizen, convicted child sex offender be your lawyer one of the ways?


 No.23560

File: 76e93f11b678245⋯.jpg (17.21 KB, 479x235, 479:235, C9PLucOW0AAzTFA[1].jpg)

File: 22fa449a55957db⋯.jpg (5.31 KB, 404x80, 101:20, C9PLucOW0AIJUKk[1].jpg)

File: 37a3cf32fcc468a⋯.jpg (46.69 KB, 470x407, 470:407, C9PLucPXUAEfZfS[1].jpg)

RMFC cancellation is entirely on the nazis and their pedo defender

https://twitter.com/chipfoxx/status/852249490732044289

I hope it was worth it


 No.23561

File: 8a67e8f150947a8⋯.jpg (124.22 KB, 675x1200, 9:16, C9L5SmzVoAYdTgI[2].jpg)

what did he mean by this?


 No.23564

>>23560

Too bad that Deo Taz person is already being seen as the prime reason and will continue to be. That creature and its friends had better steer miles clear of any convention for the rest of their lives or they're dead meat. Not joking, I am waiting on the edge of my seat with a bowl of popcorn for them to nut up and dare to show their faces anywhere after this.


 No.23565

>>23548

>I wonder what an ACTUAL lawyer thinks of it

This is the point when a "subculture" can be declared officially dead.


 No.23569

>>23564

>That creature and its friends had better steer miles clear of any convention for the rest of their lives or they're dead meat. Not joking, I am waiting on the edge of my seat with a bowl of popcorn for them to nut up and dare to show their faces anywhere after this.

This is the exact kind of threat that got RMFC shut down.

Hope it was worth it.


 No.23570

>>23569

Keep doing your little touchdown dance my dude, just wait. I'm just gonna be on the sidelines, laughing. It's gonna be Fullerton all over again. Nobody will win, this could have all been totally avoided.


 No.23575

File: 2f1e16b163e646a⋯.jpg (221 KB, 1200x900, 4:3, furry_raiders.jpg)

https://twitter.com/2_gryphon/status/851640036210749440

>Sounds to me like #RMFC died because of all the fragile crybullies who were threatening violence... something Furry Raiders never did. https://twitter.com/BirdDog_85/status/851609086638657536

The tweet from Dereck Dingo that 2 references has "#PunchANaziFur". THAT'S advocating violence.

>>23569

>This is the exact kind of threat that got RMFC shut down.

see >>23249

>>23560

Just a random observation completely aside from everything, I've never seen someone tweet as many negative things about Trump as ChipFox does. Like, I don't use twitter but tweeting THAT volume of political shit must be absolutely exhausting.


 No.23576

>>23575

>see

Indeed, it was the "are you threatening to bring a gun to RMFC" that led to the chairpersons having to choose between paying for extra security or banning the furry raiders, or going nuclear and shuttering the entire convention.

They did the least adult thing, took their ball and went home.


 No.23577

>>23575

>Like, I don't use twitter but tweeting THAT volume of political shit must be absolutely exhausting.

You must be incredibly low energy, unlike our Emperor in Chief.


 No.23578

>>23576

That person wouldn't have to bring a gun to feel safe if antifa pussies weren't threatening to go around punching people they didn't like. Stop fucking ignoring their part in this, you shill piece of shit.


 No.23580

>>23578

>if antifa pussies weren't threatening to go around punching people they didn't like

You might have a point if the person making the "threat" had ever planned to go to the convention where the un-liked people were going to gather.


 No.23583

>>23576

If the choice was between much higher security costs than anticipated/a possible violent incident (both because of this unreasonable bullshit) or banning an entire group of furs on murky grounds, then I can't say that I really blame them for closing shop. Seems logical (if unfortunate).

>>23577

You'd be surprised. Seriously though look at that fox's feed, that's a fuckton.

>>23580

Dude what. In a tweet at >>23249 Deo literally said, "Can't wait to punch these Nazis."


 No.23585

>>23580

Based on what I am seeing on Twitter and everywhere else, the Furry Raiders are not the "unliked" ones in this situation.


 No.23688

Anyone else notice how "Punch Nazis" is becoming more of a fetish than a meme to these retards now? Like I wouldn't put it past some of them to start believing this childish virtue signalling to be sexually attractive.


 No.23721

>>23688

>becoming more of a fetish than a meme to these retards now

you mean like wearing murrsuits and doing nazi salutes?


 No.23752

>>23721

I find it hilarious that communists dare to find nazi symbols tasteless despite communism killing more people than nazis ever could. You and Deo are a group of retarded hyprocrites.


 No.23754

>>23576

>>23580

>>23548

Deo made the threat first and a person proposed to defend themselves from that threat. After still claiming that she would pursue the threat, she got banned. You know what she did after she got banned for making a threat? She dug up dirt on the manager, wrote up hitpiece, claimed that she was threatened by a fucking DMCA, and spread that hitpiece to everyone in the press.

Seeing as how Trump supporters got beaten at berkley, it makes sense why people would want to defend themselves with a firearm. No surprise that a dnese moron like you, devoid of any braincells, would defend a hypocritical communist.


 No.23779

File: 196f11d0ee8aedb⋯.jpg (69.06 KB, 671x655, 671:655, C9Ym0KOXoAAoDPj.jpg)


 No.23790

File: 36bb59d6f113b57⋯.gif (944.15 KB, 497x280, 71:40, tenor[1].gif)

>>23779

>pls dont joke about punching my nazi friends

>commies are the real bad guys shoot them

That's a real nice furry convention you've got there, Colorado


 No.23796

>>23790

You intentionally miss the point because you know that you are wrong. Deo is in no position to take offense when she has an offensive ideology herself. And yes, nazis are obligated to shoot commies if commies theaten violence against them first.

If you can't take shit, then don't dish it. Dumbass.


 No.23800

>>23796

I hope shutting down a furry convention was worth it to wag your e-peen at the (((SJWs)))


 No.23801

>>23800

The real reason why the convention was shut down was because you let these individuals get away with their bad behavior every time.

In what way is it justified to threaten to punch people over an offensive ideology that you also have, get angry from a ban letter from a con that you were never to attend, and dig up dirt on the owner just because you were prohibited from punching people? It makes absolutely no sense. Had the sides been switched, you would see it for what it is.

The stupid part isn't that she did all of that, it's that she still won't be content because there are numerous imbeciles like you who reward and defend their actions. Rather than remain relaxed, she will flock immediately towards the next group of "nazis" and start another shitshow.


 No.23803

>>23779

If your ideology causes the deaths of millions, you can't complain. You're both terrible.


 No.23805

>>23801

>you

Except I'm not in charge of RMFC in any way.

>let these individuals get away with their bad behavior every time.

Yes, the RMFC con staff acquiesced to the furry raiders behavior last year when they reserved more rooms than they intended to actually use in an attempt to control who could attend the convention. Notwithstanding their nazi paraphernalia, that alone warranted their banishment.

>In what way is it justified to threaten to punch people over an offensive ideology

Never said it was. Just pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of someone taking delight in the idea of someone getting shot.

>get angry from a ban letter from a con that you were never to attend

I'm not Deo but I infer that she wasn't so much angry as legitimately scared that someone (that you've never communicated with) would track you down over a joke on twitter and make "legal" threats against you and your livelihood. Sovereign citizens like Kihuki and Scorch are at best a source of eternal harassment, at worst a deadly threat to those that "oppose" their bizarre legal theories especially those in positions of authority, though there's currently no reason to believe either of them is in that latter category.

>and dig up dirt on the owner just because you were prohibited from punching people?

All of that was done by people other than Deo. You must be as batshit crazy as Scorch if you think she's THE DEVIL and did all (or any) of this personally. Don't delude yourself into believing that hardly anyone thought the "cease and desist" letter was both menacing and baseless.

>It makes absolutely no sense.

That's what sov-cits are good at. They'll say anything to justify their immature behavior and poor management skills.


 No.23813

>>23805

>Except I'm not in charge of RMFC in any way.

Except that you defend the behavior of Deo and other folks who took offense with their ideology.

>Yes, the RMFC con staff acquiesced to the furry raiders behavior last year when they reserved more rooms than they intended to actually use in an attempt to control who could attend the convention. Notwithstanding their nazi paraphernalia, that alone warranted their banishment.

They never mentioned that motive, they took offense with their nazi paraphernalia while wearing communist paraphernalia.

>Never said it was. Just pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of someone taking delight in the idea of someone getting shot.

Not hypocritical to shoot people who threaten to punch you. If you can't take threats of violence, then don't dish threats of violence dumbfuck.

>I'm not Deo but I infer that she wasn't so much angry as legitimately scared that someone (that you've never communicated with) would track you down over a joke on twitter and make "legal" threats against you and your livelihood. Sovereign citizens like Kihuki and Scorch are at best a source of eternal harassment, at worst a deadly threat to those that "oppose" their bizarre legal theories especially those in positions of authority, though there's currently no reason to believe either of them is in that latter category.

Your inference is nothing more than a dumb inference. Not to mention that she contacted the head of the con to get Furry Raiders booted according to the article in the OP.

"Punching nazis" is not a joke as people have acted on it several times beforehand, you dense retard.

>All of that was done by people other than Deo. You must be as batshit crazy as Scorch if you think she's THE DEVIL and did all (or any) of this personally. Don't delude yourself into believing that hardly anyone thought the "cease and desist" letter was both menacing and baseless.

It was not menacing, it was a rightful ban for a threat of violence. The only reason why you find it menacing is because you don't want to be punished doing a wrong action. Which is why you're performing a laughable level of mental gymnastic and goalpost switching.

>That's what sov-cits are good at. They'll say anything to justify their immature behavior and poor management skills.

It's "sovereign citizen" and immature to ban people who threaten violence? You're absolutely braindead.

Listen, individual of centigrade level room temperature IQ, it's never immature to ban people who violate your rules. Especially if they threaten physical violence.


 No.23814

>>23790

I'm not saying either is ok you stupid whale. I don't support Nazis. I don't support communism.

Deo cant bitch, her unironic ideology is way worse than the one people are trolling around with.

I THINK BOTH SIDES IN THIS SITUATION ARE FUCKING RETARDED. HOWEVER: THOSE LITTLE ALT FURRY JOKESTERS ARE WAY MORE ENTERTAINING THAN THE SJW COMMUNIST ASSHATS.


 No.23861

File: ee82ac1457daa89⋯.jpg (56.6 KB, 400x621, 400:621, 718903.jpg)

Getting mad at Fashy-RP is fucking retarded. Unfortunately the retards in question probably won't be going anywhere anytime soon.


 No.23883

>>23790

What if physically attacking people for their ideas is wrong regardless of if they're commies or fascists?

It's a pretty shit straw man, regardless. That post you reply to makes no mention of punching nazis.


 No.23885

>>23790

>>23883

Though, given the context of the thread, assuming you aren't really replying to that post in particular, are you meaning to suggest a complete ignoring of the context of the "I'll bring a gun" lot?

The commie was threatening acts of violence on these so-called "nazis". Are you saying self defense is wrong?


 No.23887

>>23480

Holy fuck that rant is autism.

All he had to say was "It's just furfags making dumb cyborg 'sonas and buying overpriced YCH slots to fantasize about"


 No.23889

>>23861

I find the concept of nazi furries ridiculous.

Imagine those googly eyed morons invading a country. PFF. And even if they were actual dogs, just get them down with amplified dog whistles.


 No.23891

>>23887

> furfags making dumb cyborg 'sonas and buying overpriced YCH slots to fantasize about

that sounds pretty autistic


 No.24021

File: bb7685c21427c72⋯.gif (1.04 MB, 600x337, 600:337, ezgif-2-e12e2da449.gif)

Death 2 nazi scum!


 No.24022

File: fb031c56a196bf2⋯.jpg (105.44 KB, 1200x649, 1200:649, C9lMmkzWAAAvrNR.jpg)

File: 6d15edd1a9819fb⋯.jpg (63.82 KB, 600x1067, 600:1067, C9lLozKXoAEh122.jpg)

File: cfe666a09e446f6⋯.jpg (43.54 KB, 540x537, 180:179, C9lLpStXcAAWzkY.jpg)

File: acc3ea26792a9ce⋯.jpg (49.14 KB, 541x589, 541:589, C9lLpm7XYAAHUIZ.jpg)

File: 9126be3dfc144eb⋯.jpg (30.14 KB, 370x492, 185:246, C9kv848VwAAIz4i.jpg large.jpg)

http://www.nerdandtie.com/2017/04/12/the-bizarre-fall-of-rocky-mountain-fur-con/

Now, in all fairness, if you asked the Furry Raiders if they were Nazis, they’d say no. I mean, sure — they wear arm bands based around the design of the Nazi party, replacing the swastika with a paw. And yes, their Fur Affinity page used to list their birthday as Adolph Hitler’s. And yes, the Nazi imagery is just plain everywhere with their stuff. And yes, their founder has said some pretty racist things. And yes, Foxler has… oh god, I could go on for hours.


 No.24023

>>24021

>>24022

>this triggers the commie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqPXWxt_WMo

remember kids, when you punch nazi's, you get the fucking shit kicked out of you by a 4 foot 8 manlet.


 No.24024

>>24021

>being so butt flustered you animate an entire sequence dedicated to a manufactured controversy

wew


 No.24040

>>24024

Wait this is not a troll and somebody didint just manufacture this to make ?her? look like a moron.


 No.24042

>>24040

nope.


 No.24043


 No.24046

>>23779

>the holocaust totally happened

LOL


 No.24055

>>24021

What a fucking coward. That salty cunt better never show her face around another convention or she'll be leaving in a free pine coach. Keep fueling that fire and feel sorry for yourself when it burns you Deo.


 No.24059

File: 2e6bcfd42c4f8aa⋯.jpg (81.11 KB, 750x703, 750:703, C9nybtWW0AA_n0M.jpg large.jpg)

>If someone is a delusional right wing nut, they ll just make excuses for everything :D

Though the funniest part if pretending to be the victim and failing to comprehend that intolerant people cannot be tolerated.

Here's a tip since you failed your civics class

If you tolerate an intolerant individual you are intolerant by proxy by letting them keep being assholes

If you are intolerant of an intolerant individual, you are tolerant because you dont support and are against terrible human beings like that

Quite simple, but it is probably like the image, delusional people just want to believe they arent terrible people and they are the poor victims.

The amount of nazi apologists on the right wing are hilarious


 No.24060

File: 33fff3d791c0d01⋯.jpg (192.28 KB, 675x1200, 9:16, C9VM8cBXgAAB94S.jpg)

>>24055

>implying we wont be supporting Deo

#Imwithdeo

What you gonna do now? Start threatening us with guns because you are an insecure little redneck?

Will you also start shooting after you get punched and go to jail? Because any lawyer will tell you "he punched me" isnt enough of an excuse unless you are in some south shithole with retarded laws xd


 No.24065

File: 841118b963287b6⋯.png (321.82 KB, 480x584, 60:73, 06ed30067bc9f2a265abafb88a….png)


 No.24080

>>24060

all of these nazi's got off on legal self defense by the way.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Sacramento_riot


 No.24088

>>24080

>30 proud men vs 300 antifa cucks

>Nearly all injuries to antifas, even though the "nazis" were outnumbered ten to one

Ha! Maybe I would be afraid of them if they actually knew how to throw a punch.


 No.24095

>>23861

Holy crap that artwork is good.

You don't usually see that caliber of art used on something considered 'fringe'.


 No.24097

>>23889

Hearing protection and training.

Hell, you don't see soldiers complaining and they tend to lose all hearing above 800hz because...

Idk, I guess the gov didn't put hearing protection in the budget.


 No.24098

>>23405

No, that was Bush Senior and he was right.

Chemical weapons were in Iraq, but they made them disappear.

Let's ask the chemical burn victims of the more recent Sarin Gas Attacks if it was all in their head and that there's no weapons of mass destruction in the Middle East.

Go ahead, stare one in the blind, blistered eyes and ask them.

And when you're done, feel free to fuck off back to >>>/leftypol/


 No.24108

File: b4a36eb0ee2327c⋯.jpg (192.06 KB, 962x1280, 481:640, 1486062982.zefurredreich_l….jpg)

>>24097

you'd be very surprised.


 No.24109

>>24108

fuck you 8ch, meant for

>>24095


 No.24110

>>24098

>Let's ask the chemical burn victims of the more recent Sarin Gas Attacks

I would but they dont exist, Kek. that shit wasnt Sarin man, go watch those video's again and pay attention. Especially to the so called "medics"


 No.24117

>>24059

>If you're not with us, you're against us!

What if I want FREE SPEECH, you dickmongering fascist cuckold?


 No.24135


 No.24175

>>24110

Better watch out, men in black vans might be coming for you. You know too much. /s


 No.24176

Oh, and...

>>24095

It's no wonder it's good. That's by Roz Gibson. She may draw some creepy stuff, especially featuring that guy (Jack Salem, a really twisted character) but she's great.


 No.24186

Take five minutes to think through the possible consequences of sending Nazis the message that no one is willing to physically confront them


 No.24189

>>24186

Nazis and right wing delusional assholes should feel like their life is in risk everywhere they go!


 No.24191

>>24186

You take five seconds to think about what would happen when you decide to throw punches. Your cowardly mob of hipster faggots would get slapped down and hospitalized just like they did at Berkeley. Out numbered ten to one and you pussies still couldn't hospitalize one single "nazi." I guess that's what happens when your ideals are manufactured and you're a weakass pantywaist. Joining antifa is joining the losing side and it only becomes more apparent everytime they show their snakey little heads. I can't wait for the civil war to start so I can suit up and plug holes in a few, but I highly doubt cowards like you and Deo would be anywhere near the front lines.


 No.24194

File: bd0c3c42c49f56d⋯.mp4 (2.58 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, nazi_cuck_being_punched.mp4)

File: a95f6512131a190⋯.jpg (1.12 MB, 1536x2048, 3:4, nazi.jpg)


 No.24195

>>24194

Watching spenser gets punched is always entertaining, this cunt needs to have his face broken.


 No.24199

File: cd1c57f48a56242⋯.jpg (219.44 KB, 1131x849, 377:283, FASCISTS IN MY CEREAL.jpg)

File: be0d5d2ce1f0cf3⋯.jpg (240.78 KB, 1345x1208, 1345:1208, FASCISTS BEWARE.jpg)

File: 9c009709154d7ee⋯.jpg (211.3 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, leftypolmeetup.jpg)

File: 55c321f4b7ffaf7⋯.jpg (129.29 KB, 803x868, 803:868, NAZIS WATCH OUT.jpg)


 No.24201

>>24186

>>24189

>>24195

I honestly don't know if you're aware (and I'm not trying to be condescending), but in America anyone is legally allowed to express themselves and their political views without government interference- even those with troubling ideologies like nazis. If they were to break an actual law then they'd be arrested just like anyone else would be. Intimidation and use of physical coercion against them is outright illegal.

Are you seriously advocating that people should support illegal actions against those legally expressing themselves?

If so then that's a troubling normalization of political violence and an embracement of illegalism. I'm trying really hard to have this be understood as something that is not hyperbolic or a personal attack: unlawful actions in the name of politics is the textbook definition of terrorism. Terrorism is not okay.

...We as the furry community really are a microcosm of society, aren't we?


 No.24204

>>24201

>unlawful actions

I should have said

>unlawful violence

Apologies, clarity is important in these matters.


 No.24205

File: 7d8180bcecd0ea8⋯.jpg (242.4 KB, 1666x934, 833:467, ss (2014-11-16 at 12.29.03….jpg)

>>24201

Ah... The sweet voice of reason, finally you have arrived.


 No.24206

File: 880e34ec7bedae4⋯.jpg (35.3 KB, 320x561, 320:561, C9pDV-dUAAAiEXD.jpg)

File: 9564d067cfee2dd⋯.jpg (32.57 KB, 959x367, 959:367, C9qmuqBVwAAD-wj.jpg)

File: c7423ba90714186⋯.jpg (42.16 KB, 633x655, 633:655, C9qmup-UIAI8QNz.jpg)

File: c9076a5e19e92f3⋯.jpg (40.44 KB, 627x653, 627:653, C9qmuqBVoAA28GP.jpg)

File: 914dd24ea2bc656⋯.jpg (23.13 KB, 634x328, 317:164, C9qmuqEUwAAE6FZ.jpg)

"The Furry Raiders are NOT nazis. Just because you don't agree with them doesn't mean you can call them a Nazi group"


 No.24209

>>24194

Keep posting your shifty knockoff memes and that totally badass and brave from-behind suckered punch, doesn't change the fact you lot got your lily white faggot asses beat in Commiefornia.


 No.24212

File: 67bb999a0e70989⋯.mp4 (10.8 MB, 640x360, 16:9, German ANTIFA raids pol's ….mp4)

>>24199

lol

<tinyboard flag alt></tinyboard>


 No.24215

File: 20b31026a762917⋯.jpg (40.55 KB, 368x368, 1:1, 1457528481191.jpg)

These Antifa idiots don't seem to realize how stupid they are. By acting like complete morons they make the Nazis look like the calm and reasonable side.

Remember BLM? And all those Anti-Trump SJW riots? Haven't they learned anything?


 No.24216

>>24176

Thanks for the name drop. I'll have to take a look at her stuff.

I've been wanting to find more good comics and art.


 No.24218

>>24206

Nice strawman, but we never said that you can't call them nazis. We said that:

1. You can't direct a threat at them and expect them NOT to throw a threat of self-defense at you. And yes, "punch nazi" is a threat because acted upon on from leftists frequently to attack non-leftists. Do I need to point out Berkley?

2. It's unreasonable to be angered from a ban for making a threat, especially if you weren't going to attend to begin with.

It's surprising that none of you guys are able to understand such a simple concept despite being educated. It's as if you want everyone to praise your bad actions every time.

>Huh? Why did those right wingers become so angrry? I mean, all I did was direct threats at them, made fake bomb threats to cancel their meetings, throw stones that made people bleed, and ignite m-80 fireworks that cause permanent hearing damage, ;'((((

You guys are a hypocritical joke, and I don't even like nazis.


 No.24234

File: 6217397550ebc91⋯.jpg (39.6 KB, 427x427, 1:1, solve everything with viol….jpg)

>>24215

>Why don't these ANTIFA care about muh PR?

Read this: https://humaniterations.net/2012/02/29/you-are-not-the-target-audience/

>>24218

Anyone who threatens to bring a gun, especially over social media, is fucking retarded. Nazi or not. What people don't seem to realize is not only are verbal threats retarded, but so is telling other people you have a gun. Does "conceal carry" mean anything to these people?

>b-b-but they're n-n-not r-really n-n-nazis!

Who gives a shit? Stop being a such a moralfag. Just sit back and watch the show.


 No.24239

File: fb8b3a1e0ad2314⋯.jpg (110.77 KB, 800x600, 4:3, 41b590471a4106e460d762edf9….jpg)

>>24234

Oh my. So this is what they believe in? Dear oh dear, how very amusing.

I assume this to be the reason they will never succeed. And never be taken seriously.

Idiocy.


 No.24240

>>24234

>https://humaniterations.net/2012/02/29/you-are-not-the-target-audience/

>those incredibly over-the-top mental gymnastics to justify vandalism

>"See? You couldn't send a cop in the middle of a violent riot to stop me from suddenly turning around and smashing a glass pane, therefore you have no power over me, I win!"

I don't even...

You are fucking stupid.


 No.24243

File: a1c1ac064f00198⋯.jpg (49.08 KB, 676x858, 26:33, 0 percent mad.jpg)

>>24239

>>24240

You guys are retarded. Stop taking things so seriously. As I said before, enjoy the show.


 No.24246

File: 0c7ce56e117a24d⋯.png (151.62 KB, 325x304, 325:304, 1457556755569.png)

>>24243

Oh, but honey! How could I ever refuse to partake in this beautiful, chaotic dance?

I enjoy watching a good flame war as much as anyone else, but from time to time it feels great to get involved.

Getting dirty, I just love it.


 No.24248

File: f5faeaad379b3b8⋯.jpg (7.72 KB, 204x247, 204:247, Gays not welcome.jpg)

>>24246

>Oh, but honey!

Excuse me, this is a heterosexual board.


 No.24249

File: 7bcc03352a00626⋯.png (80.92 KB, 495x398, 495:398, 4222b836268a7d229ee8f8cdd3….png)

>>24248

Deny it all you want, my love, but I know when someone's got the hots for me.

What say you, shall we go upstairs and... "get to know each other"?


 No.24266

>>24195

because he disagrees with you, or because he hurt your feelings?


 No.24267

File: e0d5a3e7333d7dd⋯.jpg (151.56 KB, 1407x695, 1407:695, 1492476651788.jpg)


 No.24326

>>24189

If that's your stance, fine, whatever. But what do you think they'll do as a result of that?

They're pretty damn likely to defend themselves. And remind me, which ones are the gun-loving roughneck heavy workers? Which ones are the veterans, the hunters, the mechanics?

Leftists think open war with anyone "right wing" [read: wants to protect their rights] is a good idea, not realizing that their people are limpdick cityfag college students living off of their mommy's' money.

>>24194

>look! We can suckerpunch people, and not even knock them down! Look how bad ass we are!

You lose every single fight you get when it ain't an ambush. You lost Berkley after the police disarmed the Trump supporters, and left you fucks alone with your bear mace, smokebombs, sticks, and so on.

You label anyone a "nazi", and expect the common man to support you. You work actively to take away people's rights, and yet you think you're the tolerant ones.


 No.24327

>>24201

Something being illegal doesn't necessarily make it wrong, anon.

That said, physically attacking people for their ideals, for voicing their opinion, that is most certainly wrong.

You don't instigate violence. There's nothing wrong with punching someone what's punched you, but there's plenty wrong with punching someone who's not done anything to you.

>>24234

Whether you state you are armed or not is irrelevant when it comes down to self defense. Open carry is a thing too, after all.

>b-but they're not real nazis

He didn't even say that you strawmanning shithead. He said it's wrong to do these things to anyone. I would never threaten to punch a communist in the face for voicing their opinion. I would threaten to retaliate if they threaten to punch me, however.


 No.24334

Nice to know this place is full of /pol/tard nazis and nazi apologist who try to compare nazis with literally anything else in a weak attempt to normalize it and pretend nazis aren't the scum of the planet by miles .

But of course nazis will jump to the first opportunity to compare themselves with other things so they won't feel like that.

Sorry we aren't pandering to your delusion nazis, yo are scum and you will always be no matter how much you tell otherwise and how much you get triggered about being called out on being a scum


 No.24339

File: 8f7bda060fdcf37⋯.png (277.5 KB, 500x441, 500:441, 1400472881694.png)


 No.24343

>>24334

>being surprised that 8chan, a place that advertised itself on the basis of free speech, would support free speech, and dislike those who oppose it.

Nazis are scum. But that don't make it okay to attack them, faggot.


 No.24346

Agreed, attacking isn't enough, we need an assassination group to spread the fear in them.


 No.24347

File: 877302c76797c87⋯.png (577.36 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, 3d5552f5d1764f86741d4f87cf….png)

>>24334

Ah, the way you struggle and throw insults. How charming.

I applaud the resolve your people show, as there is nothing more entertaining than watching fools fighting a war they already lost.


 No.24350

>>24334

The Nazis might be worse ideologically, but they are literally nothing, they have barely a sway in the grand scheme of things. You know who does have the power? The far Left, and they are gaining strides in shutting down free speech, shutting down events because they don't align with them politically, and instigating violence against those who disagrees with them and getting them fired from their jobs.

YOU are the real threat for today's age.


 No.24351

>>24350

I'm not even close to being "an ebul nahtzee", but I'll fight tooth and nail against the lefty extremists that are taking over.


 No.24352

>>24234

Threats of self-defense is justified towards folks who make threats towards you first. The main reason why you have to make up strawmen is because you know that Deo is in the wrong.

>>24334

>>24346

If we're going that route, then "nazi apologists" are way better than communist apologists like you. ( >>23779 )

As a non-white I think that you, Mao Zedong, Stalin, and Deo are complete scum in comparison to a person like Hitler. At least Hitler and his supporters has their actions scrutinized for what they are, your side performs an insane amount of mental gymnastics to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing. Such as this incident and Berkley.

The only reason why you're fed up with nazis more isn't because of their actions, but because you cluelessly parrot the same bullshit that you hear in pop culture from news articles, celebrities, and hashtags. Completely inept at thinking for yourself and the full context.


 No.24353

File: 75a2ec412e104ac⋯.jpg (125.78 KB, 931x1200, 931:1200, C9xsT1YU0AANhjl.jpg)

File: e003bbd85517267⋯.jpg (147.96 KB, 748x1200, 187:300, C9qmup-UIAI8QNz.jpg)

NotNazis.jpeg


 No.24355

File: 2343d021e0f7655⋯.jpg (273.26 KB, 634x996, 317:498, pathetic_loser.jpg)

>Tfw you are such a sad worthless failure that your ego cant survive without trying to degrade others and inflate your own importance by adopting autismus maximus beliefs


 No.24359

>>24334

friendly reminder that Nazi's killed about 11-12million civilians.

Commies killed over 100 million in their run, with that number still slowly going up in asia and some places in africa and the middle east.

How does it feel to support people that are literally worse than the nazis?


 No.24361

>>24353

noonecares.png


 No.24363

File: 842d43e202d966b⋯.png (60.63 KB, 967x316, 967:316, bandicam 2017-04-19 08-05-….png)

>>24355

link and/or archive or GTFO


 No.24365

File: 12ca1279a725178⋯.jpg (100.73 KB, 660x583, 60:53, Gays unwelcome.jpg)

>>24249

Sinner

>>24327

>Whether you state you are armed or not is irrelevant when it comes down to self defense

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH No. If you let people know you have a gun then you've already lost. You let your enemy know, now they take tactics around that.

>He said it's wrong to do these things to anyone

Haha spooked moralfag.

>>24334

At this point this entire fucking site is just /pol/

>>24352

>Threats of self-defense is justified towards folks who make threats towards you first

See last paragraph

>The main reason why you have to make up strawmen

Why to make up shit faggot, reread my last paragraph

>you know that Deo is in the wrong

Who? Whatever. I'm just here for the show.

>>24359

>Marxist-Leninists killed people but Nazis killed much less so that makes nazism okay

Not even taking part of this but holy fuck are you retarded.


 No.24367

>>24359

That argument is bad. If the German National Socialist Party wasn't defeated in WW2, it's safe to assume they'd have a similar body count.

Nazism and Communism wind up becoming the same entity if you let them exist long enough.


 No.24370

File: 8cc87cee16c891f⋯.jpg (392.86 KB, 2048x1536, 4:3, facepaw.JPG)

>>24363

>wah wah, FAKE NEWS REEEE

Lmao, worthless sad brain dead person detected


 No.24372

File: ea8457b143a1589⋯.jpg (213.12 KB, 1344x1364, 336:341, 3390d75da12d598a113c66c07e….jpg)

>>24365

Haven't you learned anything, dear? All Furries are gay!

So, are you enjoying yourself? I can not wait until the flames of chaos or reignited.

All this havoc and mayhem, isn't it beautiful?


 No.24374

>>24351

Most the guys fighting these scumbuckets aren't. But they'll all be called a 'nazi'.

>>24365

Or, your enemy knows you'll kill them if they try shit. Thus defusing a situation before it starts. Regardless, it still doesn't make it wrong.

>m-muh morals mean nothing

Enjoy your worthless existence, shitter. Without values, nothing you do has any real worth.

>>24367

That's unfair, I think. The Nazis were horrible people, but when it came to economic matters, especially food, they were at least competent. The communists, meanwhile, thanks to rampant bureaucracy fucked over food supplies and starved their own population.

WIthout that starvation, you'd be right though.


 No.24375

>>24353

>>24355

>>24370

Who cares? Agreeable and disagreeable speech will always exist as long as you're looking for it. The fact that you even search for those obscure posts is why no one sane should pander to you in the first place. Even after the con was shut down and the Furry raiders were banned, you guys still aren't content. You sniff for any flimsy obscure trace of nazis to vindicate your shit behavior.

Even with the above fact in mind, it's still not justified to threaten to assault or assault those you disagree with so that they can be further entrenched in their bubble. Fuck off.

>>24365

No one is a "moralfag" or /pol/ for pointing out that anyone should be banned for a threat that they made first. It's common sense.

Quit being dishonest and see it for what it is.

>Not even taking part of this but holy fuck are you retarded.

He didn't say that, you strawmanning retard. He said that Deo is in no position to complain about an offensive ideology when she has worse one herself.


 No.24376

File: 4c04cd8b1f52326⋯.png (172.1 KB, 636x1076, 159:269, its not punching nazis its….png)


 No.24379

>>24374

Yup. It is branded into people's minds that Nazis are the worst.

They established animal rights, like banning vivisection and many forms of animal testing, rights that are used in many countries now.

They supported families and the youths. My great grandmother was mother to triplets and she received 3 strollers, 500 DM (at that time, that was like $3500) and the "Ehrenkreuz der deutschen Mutter". Oh yeah, and Hitler is the godparent of my grandpa and his brothers.

I sound like a real Nazi, don't I? So I can understand that no one is pointing out the good things Nazis did.


 No.24381

>>24379

And then they got all those people they cared about so much bombed by the Americans and raped by Russians because they declared war on the world.

Given the entire foundation of their ethos is 'We are strong, we can overcome any adversity together' and they got their shit absolutely stomped in, it's difficult to see how they were anything but a total failure at every level. Even Hillary Clinton technically got more votes.


 No.24383

>>24374

The Ukrainian starvation was basically a genocidal campaign. Most starvation was on purpose to keep populations under control. The moral is when the government is actually evil and not 50 shades of grey like a lot of western countries, genocide will happen. Armenians, Kurds, Yazidis, and the shit ton of massacres in Asia are prime examples. In reality communism is just as racist and xenophobic as Nazis.

When it comes to morality and fairness, free market capitalism is the only right choice, despite the massive flaws it has.


 No.24384

>>24381

Indeed, the whole war and "kill all jews, etc" thing was dumb. Like, really dumb.

Good thing my family lived in a remote village in Bavaria, where absolutely nothing happened. And now I'm a spoiled, rich, white boy.

Thanks, Hitler.


 No.24386

>>24379

Well they did undeniably abhorrent human testing. Like really fucked up shit for sometimes just to see what would happen. The Nazis are and should be labeled evil.

Oh the 3 strollers? See, even Hitler was a socialist.


 No.24387

File: eac36f51af0a77d⋯.jpg (49.13 KB, 800x573, 800:573, 1410295748071.jpg)

>>24386

Evil, you say? A rather broad term, don't you think?

The testing they did, yes, it really was cruel. But don't forget how much scientific data we have, thanks to that (Hypothermia, for example).

After America bombed Japan they send doctors and scientist over, not to help, but to observe. And we also learned a lot.

Guess we need evil in this world. But... wouldn't that make 'evil' somehow equal to 'good'?

There you have it. Nazis are actually good.


 No.24388

>>24387

>>24387

Anyone that wasn't a straight white German were viewed as subhuman only fit for death and medical exploitation. There's no way of dancing around those facts. There's also the cultural destruction they caused, looting priceless paintings and statues, then.dest


 No.24389

>>24387

Fucking phone.

Then destroying or hiding those items out of sheer spite. The few good things they did are absolutely overshadowed by the terrible things.


 No.24390

>>24379

>Yup. It is branded into people's minds that Nazis are the worst.

>Nazi apologism intensifies

Lmao, you must be so pathetic to do that


 No.24391

>>24388

>>24389

How quaint. So you do believe this?

You see, after the war, America went full propaganda mode to let the public know about the atrocities the Nazis committed.

Thing is, they also lied a lot. They wanted everyone to hate Hitler.

Now consider this... What if all the evil things you heard about the Nazis aren't actually true? What if the Holocaust didn't happen? What if the evidence is fabricated?

A scary thought, is it not?

But you are free to believe whatever you want. Just don't forget to challenge your views from time to time...


 No.24393

>>24376

All you can do is parrot weak talking points that dismiss additional context to justify shit behavior. Why should I be offended by the prevalence of nazis when they aren't offended by the prevalence of communists like Deo? Her ideology killed way more people than Nazism ever did in it's entire lifetime. Even then, it still doesn't justify her making a threat of violence against another individual, later becoming angered that she got banned for doing so.

The only reason why you and those dumb users are concerned about "nazism" now is because it's a hot topic in the press. None of you morons see actions for what they are, you just see how they're told.


 No.24395

File: 1561ff8322e7f8b⋯.jpg (111.83 KB, 1500x1125, 4:3, 93b64d12e6d27a55033d98b910….jpg)

>>24390

You may think that way, but you should rather focus on the real evil things. Like Muslims.


 No.24396

File: 5f708cd6ccfdf3a⋯.jpg (41.1 KB, 600x600, 1:1, c43.jpg)

>>24391

Oh sweet Jesus you went full tin foil hat mode. You have fun "challenging" people's perception.


 No.24397

>>24334

>Muh /pol/ boogeyman

Yes, child. It was the scary POLMONSTER, not the Americans who shunned your woman president, not the heroes who send Antifa to the hospital every time those nancies show up on their chartered buses, not the elected officials who pass law after voter-driven law against leftist policies, not the increasingly mainstream red state media, it's just the evil nasty POLMONSTER.


 No.24422

>>23297

>You don't have to worry about "nazi punching" because it's not going to happen. This is the biggest group of sissies I have seen in my entire life, on both sides. All they'll do is skulk and pass each other in the hallway tossing side eyes. Fuck this whole thing, nobody's going to raise a finger to anyone. If anyone does fight, instantly everyone's gonna have their phones raised to show Twitter, nobody's gonna join in.

Meanwhile, at Berkley....


 No.24426

File: e0be26660e4d7f8⋯.png (603.06 KB, 800x1908, 200:477, Muh 60 million.png)

>>24372

>Haven't you learned anything, dear? All Furries are gay!

You'll never turn me gay, you fucking furry fuck!

>>24374

>Or, your enemy knows you'll kill them if they try shit. Thus defusing a situation before it starts

Or they take steps to fuck you up and bring their own gun. Threatening people is useless, either act or don't. But never let your enemy see you coming.

>morals mean nothing

Morality doesn't exist, but either way, all things are nothing to me.

>Enjoy your worthless existence

Enjoy being mad

>Without values, nothing you do has any real worth

I myself am the source of all value. Read Stirner.

>when it came to economic matters, especially food, they were at least competent

Hitler's entire policy consisted of "borrow money from the jews we hate, and then start a war when it was time to pay it back"

>The communists, meanwhile, thanks to rampant bureaucracy fucked over food supplies and starved their own population

>muh holodohoax

lol see pic related

>>24375

>should

>common sense

spooks

>dishonest

>strawmanning

Are you implying I'm lying, you nigger?

>Deo is in no position to complain about an offensive ideology when she has worse one herself

Tu Quoque Fallacy.

>>24379

That doesn't quite make up for the whole Holocaust thing, at least in my opinion.

>They established animal rights

Suddenly, humans are no longer animals :^)

>>24383

>The Ukrainian starvation was basically a genocidal campaign

Imagine being this indoctrinated. lemme guess, you took that nazi propaganda about Ukranians cannibalizing each other at face value too, hm?

I know you're severely lacking in the education department, so here's a quick history lesson: Bad weather conditions were causing a famine in Ukraine (REMEMBER: We don't ALL live in America, you moron, the climate in Russia, and yes, Ukraine was apart of Russia back then, is/was different) Stalin decided to collectivize the farms owned by capitalist kulaks, who were basically 19th century ancaps willing to let people starve because muh property and muh profits, so to prevent the mass starvations, Stalin took away their farms BUT he gave them money at a fixed price in return to try and make it fair; when the kulaks realized what Stalin was doing, they took the grain, the perfectly good food that was meant for the starving citizens, and burned it en masse. Stalin killed them because of that. If you were in his position you probably would've done the same thing too, unless you're some kind of asshole who's perfectly fine with causing needless deaths. I'll only defend Stalin's particular course of action given this scenario, I'm not some ML. Pic is for triggering.

>>24387

Somehow I doubt you would have the same opinion if it was you taking part in those "experiments"...

>>24391

If you have evidence the holocaust didn't happen I would love to see it.

>>24393

When the nazis come out and say they're just autistic uniform fetishists and in no way are anti-semitic and start helping out other races as proof, then I'll take them at their word that they're just harmless. They're still autistic though, there's no debating that.


 No.24429

File: 874eb0698746684⋯.jpg (330.49 KB, 551x720, 551:720, 874eb06987466842a511e17b50….jpg)

>>24426

tl;dr


 No.24431

>>24426

Yo nig nog I was talking about Stalin. Since when did Germany starve the Ukraine?


 No.24432

>>24429

HAHAHAH not even an argument

>>24431

You musta misread something I wrote


 No.24433

>>24432

Nazi propaganda of Ukrainians cannibalizing each other. Stalin was actively fucking over the Ukrainians throughout his reign.


 No.24436

>>24433

>Stalin was actively fucking over the Ukrainians throughout his reign

Define "fucking over" and define "the Ukrainians"

Kulaks deserved it tbh famalam


 No.24438


 No.24439

Being a furry AND a commiecuck? A worse mix of autism my mind can't comprehend.


 No.24442

>>24426

That is a possibility, but most people aren't psychotic fucking murderers, and these anti-fa faggots aren't really the type what buys guns. That may well change soon, but for now, a threat to defend one's self with a firearm may well stop a hostile action before it happens. Which is always better.


 No.24443

File: 7895f36c945e0eb⋯.jpg (69.37 KB, 399x400, 399:400, n2po1x3lGD1r3l0mx.jpg)

>>24365

>Tu Quoque Fallacy.

Let me explain why this is not the case.

Okay, so the first thing anyone outside (and inside, as it seems) of here thinks when reading the word "nazi" is "omigod dey killed da 6 quintigillion jewws, dey evil n shit"

So that's it. Nazis are ebil murderers, commies beat them, communism is good. Debate is over.

Nope, 'cuz dem commies slaughtered 100 mil, but I bet half of them aren't even aware of this.

So what is it?

If nazis are judged as evil just because they murdered X number of people, what are those who murdered 10 times more than that?

Or is there more to their "evilness" than just genocide? If so, what is it? The political/socio-economic policies? You mean to tell me they're evil because their policies differ from yours? That's intellectual dishonesty.

So we go back to genocide.

What's the different between them? The difference is that the one that's the least cared about is also the one with the highest body count.

Is there another difference? You tell me.

But until you resolve this, commies cannot leverage on muh holocaust to shut down a debate early and nazis have all the reasons to leverage on the commies' own, bigger genocide, to get back on track.


 No.24452

>>24443

have my babies you logic bombing motherfucker.


 No.24461

>>24426

>spooks

What's hard to understand about "threats of violence always begets threats of violence"? Are you that really dumb?

>Tu Quoque Fallacy.

We're not in a formal debate, so go shove your fallacies down your ass. If you think that it's "moralfag" to follow a human standard, then I will reject your stupid standard as well.

>When the nazis come out and say they're just autistic uniform fetishists and in no way are anti-semitic and start helping out other races as proof, then I'll take them at their word that they're just harmless. They're still autistic though, there's no debating that.

You're retarded if you unironically think that they are harmful. Considering that the Furry Raiders and the aut-right never acted on any of their violent threats. In fact, their opposing side has been doing it.

It doesn't change the fact that a huge lump of you morons just want a excuse to hit people whom you disagree with.


 No.24465

>>24461

>Considering that the Furry Raiders and the aut-right never acted on any of their violent threats.

honnest question, what actual threats? all ive seen is "threats" to shoot someone who starts randomly assaulting people.


 No.24471

>>24465

They used threatening hate speech. Don't you know this is 2017? When someone says mean things, a little gnome pops out of your computer and gives you a papercut.


 No.24499

>>24395

>There are worse things than nazis

Found the nazi apologist, keep trying to reduce the nazi to just a small issue ;^)


 No.24515

File: 0b560c54a31cdd4⋯.png (420.45 KB, 857x838, 857:838, 522b2fd5151f68192faaf128a7….png)

>>24499

Today's Nazis ARE just a small issue, or maybe, not even an issue at all. You must be really dense to think they are worse than today's Muslims.


 No.24523

File: d5626f045052510⋯.gif (3.63 MB, 280x302, 140:151, FemRyder Visible Confusion.gif)

>>24499

>is this bait?

are you telling that Isis and gunmans in the middle east are safer than you're average bold head neo-nazi?

where do you belong on the political spectrum anon?


 No.24524

>>24334

>where do you think you are right now?

Are you a newfag?

Are you from /leftypol/?

Are you a commie loving faggot?

Are you a fucking bait?


 No.24528

File: 6cb77b21ad12328⋯.png (1.47 MB, 1600x1511, 1600:1511, d52a914e86a9873b202dfc1951….png)

>>24426

Denial marks the first step towards acceptance, sweetheart. No one can escape the desire for cocks and boy butts!

And may I add that squabbling with you is really fun?

>>24523

>is this bait

You never know, do you? Bait or not, many lefties, sjws or whatever they are, they actually think that way.

Preposterous, is it not? They actually believe the nonsense they utter!

Aaah, bearing witness to such a glorious display of idiocy, it makes me feel all warm inside.


 No.24531

>>24499

These days, they ain't the ones trying to take away my rights.


 No.24532

>>24528

This. There's a reason /k/ is the easiest board to troll. That's because people genuinely believe even the dumbest shit you might post.


 No.24534

>>24523

>>24531

>Tfw you ll never be a sad pathetic loser to need nazism to feel better and now desperately trying to compare it with other stuff trying to make it look like the "lesser evil"

Nice try, not a retard like you sorry ;^)


 No.24535

Why do I get the feeling that horrid cunt, deo, is trolling this shitty thread.


 No.24537

>>24534

>implying I'm a nazi

They are a lesser evil. Even ignoring the crimes of communism in the past, they're still a lesser threat to my rights in this day in age.

Unlike the Nazis, these guys are actively working to take away my rights, all with the backing of the government, media, and education system.


 No.24538

File: 7d0d03a45c1f489⋯.png (465.59 KB, 1280x1388, 320:347, ae11da7022a4af0cc0c963eec9….png)

>>24499

>>24534

Oh, this is a rather interesting bait.

It does not matter if the person is trolling or not, since it is an excellent display of how the left talks.

Fascinating! It is like witnessing a simulation of a discussion between left and right. Glorious art! Please, continue with your shenanigans.


 No.24539

File: 17c7d79924fcc26⋯.jpg (48.75 KB, 283x323, 283:323, 1409269000661.jpg)

>No one is allowed anything nice anymore because the far left and far right are both so autistic they fuck even goddamn hobbies up by forcing politics in and insisting on virtue signalling about how righteous and anti-facsist or how edgy and non-degenerate they are.


 No.24540

>>24539

I actually don't mind it. We all need chaos in our lives, don't we? Like the "cubfags are pedos" thread, it's such a shitshow. Hilarious.


 No.24545

File: bfe010b1b39479e⋯.jpg (204.92 KB, 1642x1682, 821:841, protestor was holding a bo….jpg)

>>24267

Additionally, she was holding a glass bottle while being punched. None of these leftie loonies can take what they dish out at others.


 No.24546

>>24499

>>24534

>People who post frog memes on twitter are worse than a group who actively runs over people with trucks.

You're fucking dumb. They're even civil in comparison to the left. I haven't seem them commit riots at universities after all.

At this point, it's better to be a "natzee apologist" than a braindead communist apologist like you. Eat shit.


 No.24547

>>24539

It's always the far-left who starts this shit. Even the far-left acknowledges it themselves, there's a very good reason why the vast majority of them call the far-right "reactionary" after all. The far-right might be questionable, but it's very isolated. Prior to the hitpiecies about them, they were so obscure that you have to be intentionally looking for their content in order to get their content.


 No.24551

>>24201

>Intimidation and use of physical coercion against them is outright illegal.

I'm glad you agree that bringing a gun to an event that bans guns and threatening to shoot people is illegal.


 No.24552

>>24546

>desperately tries to push nazis as le "lesser evil" by continuously trying to compare it with things

Oh what's up, is your autistic nazi apologist """strategy""" not working?

Nazis will always be the scum of this earth and thus the worse thing to happen on it, and death warrants are all they deserve.


 No.24554

>>24551

Truly some of the lowest-energy bait in this shitty thread.


 No.24555

>stating facts is low-energy bait


 No.24556

>>24555

You retarded commiecucks need to be dealt with in the most violent manor imaginable.


 No.24557

>>24552

That's because objectively, the Nazis are a lesser evil. Both in history, and in this day in age. They're shit, by all means, but I'm not about to physically attack people for their political views.

Meanwhile, the commies and the muslims will attack you. They will try to take away your rights. Those are, thus, who I am more concerned with.

>>24551

"Threatening" to defend one's self isn't really a threat, you cuntbucket


 No.24558

>>24556

so much for the tolerant reich

>>24557

>defend one's self

against someone that never threatened you and never planned to go to said convention?

you're an unhinged sociopath chasing shaddows

seek help


 No.24559

>>24552

Anyone is less autistic than a moron who unironically thinks that people should die not for their actions, but for what they say online in private. Not only are you dense for stating that, but you're also laughably dumb for holding a double standard with regards to communists out of all people.

I would take a honest and scummy group over the self-unaware, obnoxiously stupid, hypocritical, and scummy group that you and Deo are associated with.


 No.24560

>>24558

Cry more, deo, you retarded commie.


 No.24561

>>24559

>only my side is allowed to have double standards

WEW


 No.24562

>>24558

Threatening to "punch nazis" is a THREAT against an individual that is acted upon on repeatedly against right-wigners, take Berkley for instance. The fact that she wasn't going to attend the convention was not displayed in the twitter reply thread ( >>23249 ) and was discovered afterwards. Anyone is obligated to retaliate against a threat in self-defense through any means.

Quit dancing around it and stop excusing bad behavior.


 No.24563

>>24561

They didn't shut down the convention nor did they make the threat initially over an offensive ideology. Fuck off, you dense parroting retard.


 No.24564

>>24562

>>24563

it's cute how angry and violent you all get when you know you're wrong and can't stop


 No.24565

>>24564

More low-energy bait. Here's your (you) that you so desperately need.


 No.24566

>>24565

aaaand we're back to >>24555


 No.24568

>>24564

Name one single violent action that the furry raiders did? And no, posting mean things privately to their circle of friends on twitter that you've WILLINGLY exposed yourself to doesn't count.

You're either dishonest or retarded, and I feel really bad for if you fit the latter.


 No.24569

>>24566 (you)

(you)


 No.24570

>>24566

You never made any facts. You just pulled opinionated shit out of your ass.

How stupid do you have to be to think that physical violence isn't a threat but a DMCA letter is? lmao


 No.24571

>>24568

They're just running in circles, at this point. Commies aren't very smart.


 No.24572

>>24569 (You) (you)

>(you)

hi yourself :3

>>24570

>You never made any facts.

of course I never made up any facts, they wouldn't be facts then would they?


 No.24573

File: 5a5673050d1d7df⋯.jpg (107.03 KB, 364x345, 364:345, IMG_20170419_191311-1.jpg)

I honestly don't know why people think cowards like Deo and the gang are even something to be worried about. The only thing that a leftist furfag can even lift is a triple cheeseburger or a diseased cock up to their faces. Look at the OP picture for fuck's sake, it's a goddamn pink unicorn trying to act hard.

These are the type of people who got picked on and trod upon in high school and so they are trying to align themselves with a terrorist movement that they dont understand to MAKE people respect them. They're no better than a corrupt cop or politician, people they hate. They are so desperate to beat their chest behind a shield they don't give a flying fuck whose shield it is. The type of people who have to group up with others to feel tough are truly the weakest of us all.

They will never start a fight, they will never win a fight, they'll do nothing but screech like the organ grinding monkies that they are for our entertainment. It's just pathetic and reeks of desperation, and that's your they celebrate meaningless victories like releasing tax records with t-shirts and animated pictures.

The "Furry Raiders" haven't been the ones doing pussy touchdown dances because they know they've already won. When the left is so desperate for a victory that shutting down a furry convention is media worthy news for them, all you have to do is sit back and laugh while America laughs with you. They are nothing to be scared of. They are scared of you, or they wouldn't have to pretend like they are going to punch you to keep you away. Remember that.


 No.24574

>>24572

I like how you perform numerous mental gymnastics and goalpost switching to justify a blatant wrong. You're fucking dumb.


 No.24575

>>24574

(Stop replying to the 'tard.)


 No.24576

>>24574

>>24575

what do you think it says about you that you keep "falling" for "low energy bait"?

if you can't face the facts you need to get some help

>>24573

>The "Furry Raiders" ...know they've already won.

I'm not sure having you and your nazi paraphernalia being banned from a local furmeet and forcing your friends to shut down a furry convention counts as a win.


 No.24578

File: 53a7f1f16d4109a⋯.png (254.16 KB, 536x345, 536:345, 1415023446142.png)

>>24572

>>24576

Oh, you sweet innocent child. You do realize you're playing right into their hands? How queer, haha...

>>24573

Now, now. You are absolutely right, cutie. But you have to see the beauty they bring!

The lefties always think they won, no matter what, they do not admit defeat. But what does that mean? Oh, let me elucidate!

They will not change their ridiculous tactics!

They will continue to act like the fools they are!

They destroy themselves without realizing!

Ah, like the story of Inachus and Eris. They resume their inane campaign and fuel the Chaos. But Tisiphone is watching, and is already devising a string, composed of all the damage they have caused. Yes! Their heart will be crushed, and they only have themselves to blame!

And the right will succeed. Oh, I cannot wait! It will be like Trumps victory again!

Those tears! Those bewildered expressions!

Do you see now?! Everything is going according to plan! They cannot win!

Come, join me! Celebrate the Chaos! And laugh! Laugh at their foolishness!


 No.24579

>>24576

Losing a battle doesn't mean you've lost the war. What exactly have that ugly tramp and her commie friends done? Did every far right group in America get a memo that said the Rocky Mountain Fur Con had been canceled? Did it make them give up or cease hostilities? They didn't do a goddamn thing except punish a weird pedo autist by taking away his convention. If you consider that a "victory" in any sense of the word, I shudder to think what you consider a loss.


 No.24581

>>24579

Deo and its retarded ilk are entertaining to watch. It's fun seeing a group of mindless retards act like they're remotely intelligent.


 No.24583

>>24581

The thing that really kills me, is that this whole fight has nothing to do with antifas or nazis at all. It's about a button ugly landwhale trying to save face because she got banned from a con for threatening to slam her hamfists into nazi faces. Deo doesn't give a shit about her "ideology," she only used this to wipe the egg off her triple chins after she got publicly humiliated. It was disgustingly self serving and trying to call this a victory over "nazis" is even more disgusting, because nobody did anything for political reasons. That tubby cunt made the entire thing about her. The tshirts have her name on it, the pictures have her in them. I wonder what actual antifas would think about a government-loving commie saying she won a fight for them by shutting down a furry con.


 No.24585

>>24583

>she won a fight for them by shutting down a furry con.

hate to break it to you, but the convention was brought down by a decade of mismanagement not a tweet


 No.24586

>>24585

Commiefur fuck off.


 No.24609

>>24558

Against someone that threatened to attack you for your political leanings, yes.

Funny, you calling other people sociopaths, when you are the one encouraging violence against people who've done nothing to deserve it beyond hold a different opinion than you.


 No.24610

>>24576

What facts have you given? So far, it's just been shit opinions and outright lies.


 No.24611

>>24585

Brought into light by the commie, but yeah.


 No.24619

>>24585

>not having an extra $22,000 to pay for aditional security fee's brought on by a dyke so fat you think it was a man.

>Decade of mismanagement.


 No.24621

File: f01504ec8ee7884⋯.jpg (66.95 KB, 398x1024, 199:512, Olivia_Meles.jpg)

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

IT WASNT EVEN A FUCKING FURRY OR A FURRY RAIDER THAT MADE THE GUN COMMENTS

DEO BTFO

COMMIE FURS BTFO


 No.24626

File: 424737f9fea6eb2⋯.jpg (64.3 KB, 760x570, 4:3, rmfc_equality.jpg)

Even Rolling Stone is talking about us:

"Does the Furry Community Have a Nazi Problem?"

http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/does-the-furry-community-have-a-nazi-problem-w476466

jesus christ what a clusterfuck


 No.24631

File: 4ae21f7cfba6c75⋯.jpg (137.96 KB, 750x792, 125:132, tumblr_oomumzWxnT1vmqmo0o1….jpg)

>>24557

>That's because objectively, the Nazis are a lesser evil.

Hi nazi, hope you are careful, you never know when someone will decide to slit your throat in some quite place and disappear ;^)


 No.24632

>>24021

even in her fantasy she has the physique of a 50 year old house wife. pants and tits both racing to reach the navel in the middle.


 No.24633

File: 6d15edd1a9819fb⋯.jpg (63.82 KB, 600x1067, 600:1067, 010.jpg)

File: fb031c56a196bf2⋯.jpg (105.44 KB, 1200x649, 1200:649, 009.jpg)

File: acc3ea26792a9ce⋯.jpg (49.14 KB, 541x589, 541:589, 008.jpg)

File: c7423ba90714186⋯.jpg (42.16 KB, 633x655, 633:655, 003.jpg)

File: 2e6bcfd42c4f8aa⋯.jpg (81.11 KB, 750x703, 750:703, denial3.jpg)

>>24621

Next you ll say "Furry raiders arent even nazis, they dont deserve to have their throats slit"

And then you ll try to compare nazism to try make it look like the lesser evil even though Nazism is literally the worth belief out there, only for the most weak and delusional people.


 No.24634

>>24212

That is funny, but do hope those people get shot. It's just stupid and mean to go in and pointlessly destroy someone's shit like that. Pull something like that in uncucked parts of the US and it almost certainly won't end well.


 No.24636

File: 207b3b6d5c52aab⋯.jpg (64.39 KB, 419x610, 419:610, C9586wwXgAAzzs-.jpg large.jpg)

lmao


 No.24641

File: 1ffb12642ec454d⋯.gif (1.94 MB, 250x250, 1:1, 4LG2I.gif)

>>24633

I dont give a fuck about nazi furs.

the person making the comments isnt even a god damn furry you mong.

Deo got fucking triggered by somone who has no connection to the furry fandom, and got a con canceled over it.


 No.24643

File: 4dc71bd642c0332⋯.jpg (103.31 KB, 583x414, 583:414, STOP_THIS_NOW-.jpg)

you know what, this thread is becoming more and more Dilute into a right vs left thread, I did contribute to the dilution I won't deny it, but by the love God, stop this fight, they will be no conclusions, and they will be no victors in this thread.


 No.24655

>>24631

Right, sure mate, call me a nazi because I actually know my history, and I actually care about my fucking rights.

I can only hope you try this shit and get shot for your troubles.


 No.24656

>>24633

You've manged to completely dodge the item. And you wonder why we don't like your rampant dishonesty.

The guy what made the comment on using a gun for self defense wasn't even suggesting doing it himself. He said, and I quote here, "Watching you get shot by someone defending themselves from unprovoked assault will be far more entertaining". Hell, I am not even sure if that qualifies as a threat, so much as a statement of enjoyment watching the result of your idiocy.


 No.24672

File: af673e1ee9f42a6⋯.gif (2.68 MB, 350x262, 175:131, 1432978436294.gif)

>>24643

Why stop it?


 No.24715

File: 831a04e4dde95f6⋯.png (196.73 KB, 579x544, 579:544, 608a459cd5fcff18727c985f5e….png)

>>24672

Ah! Are you too another servant of chaos?

The goddess of discord will most certainly conceive you! Yes, you will perform well.

Let the dark wings of Eris embrace you!

>>24643

Oh, don't be so glum, sugar. Look around you.

The right has already won. And the right will always win... as long as the left keeps struggling the way they always do. Don't you see? If you look closely, you will see that there is no fight at all.

The defenders of the left are just squirming on the charred earth, drowning in the poison they produced. And the right? They laugh at them, play with them, humiliate them.

For that is why I watch... enjoying the fireworks.

Come! Let us behold them together!


 No.24721

>>24643

I was wondering how long this shitstorm would keep going, all the way to the bumplimit?

But like the fate of all of the poltical threads if RvL off topic shit goes on too long it'll get anchored or deleted.


 No.24724

File: f791629f63704d6⋯.png (241.54 KB, 376x374, 188:187, JAIL ALL GAYS.png)

>>24438

We've been over this, muh holodohoax wasn't man-made. It's not Stalin's fault the weather conditions were shit.

>>24442

Don't quote me on this, but isn't technically threatening someone, even if they threaten you first, assault?

>>24443

You missed the point; you can't claim that someone's position of being anti-nazi is wrong just because they themselves support ML which also killed people.

Reductio ad absurdism: A man is doing is meth, and tells you meth is bad for your health. You believe since he is being hypocritial by doing the thing he says is bad, that doing meth is actually not bad for your health. But it is. QED.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

READ NIGGA! READ!

>>24461

>What's hard to understand about "threats of violence always begets threats of violence"? Are you that really dumb?

You quoted the wrong line you shithead

>We're not in a formal debate, so go shove your fallacies down your ass

>MY FALLACIES ARE PERFCECTLY FINE

LOL

>If you think that it's "moralfag" to follow a human standard, then I will reject your stupid standard as well

>imagine being this mad

>You're retarded if you unironically think that they are harmful

>Something bad didn't happen yet so that makes it ok

Dumbass. If they're threatening people at all, that could lead to danger. That's like if I held a gun to you and threatened to shoot you but because I didn't ACTUALLY shoot you, that makes it ok.

>It doesn't change the fact that a huge lump of you morons just want a excuse to hit people whom you disagree with

I'm not ANTIFA you retard, I'm just a bystander having the time of his life here.

>>24465

I think one of the raiders threatened to bring a gun to the convention. I dunno, I'm not a normalfag so I don't know how twitter works.

>>24531

>He thinks he has rights

Anon, just do what you want.

>>24528

Criminalize homosexuality tbh


 No.24725

File: f603c053496b81a⋯.png (13.61 KB, 750x450, 5:3, 25482d2d2f7e8015e69332ae3d….png)

>>24724

There you are, you sweet cinnamon bun! I missed you! Ever heard of "Psychological resistance"? My advanced faggotry will infect you soon enough!

So, enjoying the feast so far?

>>24721

Doesn't it feel odd? Furries talking about politics. Does the anime and MLP fandom do this as well?

Well, in any case, I was wondering...

What's the political stance of Furries in general? As far as I can tell the far left and far right only represent a minority within the whole fandom. Or does it?

I've been involved in this community for more than 10 years and most of them seem to not care about politics at all. Or at least, keep it to themselves.


 No.24726

>>24724

>I think one of the raiders threatened to bring a gun to the convention. I dunno, I'm not a normalfag so I don't know how twitter works.

actually, it wasnt even a furry

>>24621


 No.24727

>>24725

furries were largely apolitical, i think its like what happened to vidya. they were apolitical years ago, but that was before tumblr. since tumblrs infestation of the furry community it's just been creating a bigger divide making people side more often far left or far right.


 No.24730

Can't speak for the cholesterol wilderness outside of Burgerca, but American furries have historically been basic bitch liberal Democrats. They seemed apolitical when there wasn't a Presidential election going or gay right legislation making rounds in the press. Voice any opinion to the right of Cenk Uygur, though, and prepare to be dogpiled by 25+ loving and tolerant self-appointed Commissars.

I will yield, though, that furries blogging about politics all day every day while under their fandom pseudonym to the point where you can't ignore it seems to be a more recent development.


 No.24741

>>24724

>but isn't technically threatening someone, even if they threaten you first, assault?

No, it isn't. That's fucking retarded. Think about the logistics involved, mate.

If you threaten to punch me in the face, and I say I'll defend myself, how the fuck is that assault?

In any case, the individual never made a threat.


 No.24743

>>24724

You can say the same for nazism, then, can't you?

You can't claim that someone's position of being anti-commie is wrong just because they themselves support a country which also killed people.

Regardless, that doesn't stop the individual failings. These anti-fa people attack others for their political leanings, unprovoked. This is wrong by most any standards.

>Anon, just do what you want.

That's what I would like to do. Unfortunately, there are people who would assault me for wanting to do so. There are people who want to take away my ability to do what I want. There are people who are actively working to make it illegal to do what I want.

What, your position is "just ignore it and break the law"? In that case, why do you care about anything? Who gives a shit about fascists, in that case? After all, you don't have rights anyway, so just do what you want, even if they end up in power and send you to the firing line.


 No.24744

>>24725

>Does the anime and MLP fandom do this as well?

Yes.

I used to be a bit of a ponyfag. Well, I didn't really care that much for the ponies, but regardless, I used to post on a few imageboards of theirs.

There was one board, totally not intended to be a politics board just a little bit of a /b/ sort of thing, but we broke it. For something like 5 years, it was nothing but politics, arguments, and bickering. The only means to stop it was the administration deciding to take a side, ban anyone who critiqued one individual and delete anything made making the case for any sort of right-side thinkings. Naturally, it was an unpleasant end, but then, the main admin kind of went nuts, so it isn't surprising.


 No.24754

>>24744

>I used to be a bit of a ponyfag. Well, I didn't really care that much for the ponies.

How does this work? Were you just in it for the appeal of the style?


 No.24756

File: 5ff3bb18c4e63cd⋯.png (3.51 MB, 1920x1080, 16:9, King_Grover_with_the_Idol_….png)

>>24754

The characters in the show were pretty dull, but the side characters, side factions, and general world were interesting to me.

I especially liked the griffons, until they ruined them in the I believe it was third season where they went full retard with their design. Decided to make them stupidly greedy, for some reason.

That said, the style did definitely play a part. Outside of the horses, it was pretty good. The mythos scenes were always my favorites, as they had a really interesting storybook aesthetic to them.


 No.24764

File: 84f36993d14b63e⋯.jpg (19.08 KB, 369x365, 369:365, GAY FAILS TEST.jpg)

>>24725

You'll never make me gay you faggot! Give it up

>>24741

I dunno about that you'd probably have to see a lawyer. A lot of laws don't make sense so who really knows what's going on?

>You can't claim that someone's position of being anti-commie is wrong just because they themselves support a country which also killed people.

On that grounds alone. You can claim nazism is wrong because it killed people, but the individual history of the person claiming whatever is irrelevant to the evaluation of ideology.

>That's what I would like to do. Unfortunately, there are people who would assault me for wanting to do so

You should probably look into illegalism. And while you're at it, probably read Stirner, might get rid of a couple of those mental blockades rooting around your noggin, if indeed there are any.

>What, your position is "just ignore it and break the law"?

If I can get away with it, yeah. Sure, why not?

>Who gives a shit about fascists, in that case?

Well if we get a fascist problem then they would be detrimental to my will.

>After all, you don't have rights anyway

Legal rights are spooks. In reality all of your rights come from yourself. The law isn';t what allows you to do what you want, only you decide what you want to do. You can break the law if you so choose. You have that choice. Some people are spooked, and believe this isn't possible, that this standard of law must be upheld at the cost of personal liberty. I say, liberate yourself as far as you can.

>even if they end up in power and send you to the firing line

So you agree with me: I think it's important to make pre-emptive strikes. You let fashies organize, let them have guns, let them spread their ideas, sooner or later you got a burning cross on your lawn and a black man hanging from a tree. Not that I'm comparing trumptards to literal fashies but you get the idea. Trumplets and american ANTIFA are both just LARPers anyway. Still they put on a good show, yeah?


 No.24765

>>24743

forgot to include this in my quote here >>24764


 No.24767

>>24764

Well that's a great fucking argument. You don't know. No shit, you wouldn't of said something so asstarded if you knew. Threatening to defend yourself is not assault. Or do you think the legal system arrests both parties every time someone runs up to another, say "I'm going to stab you with a knife" and the other replies "If you do that, I'll shoot you."

It's stupid when you put any semblance of logical thought into it.


 No.24769

File: 542e95c548e7f8f⋯.png (108.15 KB, 504x566, 252:283, 1491216800776.png)

>The characters were dull

Isnt the characters the main appeal? how they're not just 1 dimensional cookie cutouts but had their own personalities with flaws.

>The world was interesting to me

>Griffons sans season 3

The griffons were basically just a random side species that had no development until S3 showed their homeland. I wouldnt really think too much into it, they probably just made Griffons greedy to explain why Gilda was such a bitch being brought up in a totally cynical culture.


 No.24770

>>24769

Not for me, the characters were shit. They may well be "realistic" by some folk's standards, but most the time, they were either retarded, stereotypical, or just flat out shit people.

Yes, one that never showed any example of being a bunch of greedy kikes in any of the prior instances shown. They made them gypsies because they can't write for shit.

Now stop talking about poneshit, you fucking homosexual.


 No.24772

>>24633

Hi Cylo. Having fun taking down "Nazism"? and being "Progressive"

You leave so many bread crumbs, you really need to be careful, someone might find out where you live.


 No.24775

File: 048c5c75f78421e⋯.png (921.71 KB, 1588x1294, 794:647, not doing hurtful things.png)

>>24769

Aaa, I can;t actually leave this alone because it pisses me off.

The specific instance where the characters started to seem like assholes is also the first episode we got to see a griffon. Yes, she was a dick. Yes, she's not a good person. But that pink shit comes along and refuses to leave her alone with her best childhood friend. This whole event could've been avoided if Pinkie wasn't an annoying, scatterbrained, needy idiot. Meanwhile, events following where RD gives no single fucks about this cunt trying to force her way in to every situation leads to them throwing a party, where the pink shit decides to lay a bunch of landmines.

This brings up another issue, but basically, pranks aren't fun. Pranks are shitty things, most the time. It's better actually know the person you're going to prank, first, as not everyone responds well to pranks, not everyone finds them fun. Most people don't, in fact.

Anyway, this antisocial griffon with one single friend hits literally every single one of these pranks set up by this asshole, leaving her completely humiliated in front of a bunch of strangers. Naturally she snaps. Sure looks intentional from her perspective, I honestly don't know that I'd react better. What's her best friend do? Does she react to her friend being caught in an unfamiliar environment with a bunch of unfamiliar people where she's been thoroughly humiliated at every turn by the shitbucket who's antagonized her since she got to town, where she just wanted to hang out with her best friend, with any kind of care? Does she react scolding for her behavior, but understanding as to why? Does she try to talk to her at all? Does she act with a single semblance of loyalty?

Fuck no. She tells her to fuck off.

Gilda's a dick, she's a thief, and she's pretty quick to anger. But she's also your fucking friend, you faggot. She's self-conscious, shy, but doesn't want to appear weak or otherwise 'uncool'. She had only one friend, and instead of acting like her friend, you acted like a fucking asshole.

"Element of loyalty" my ass.

Anyway, this shit ended up being why they changed the griffons to a flat villain race. Because the main writer was actually annoyed that people took Gilda's side when they had every reason to. So, it left a gap that they needed to fix, while also killing a needed villain slot. Then they had the audacity to make Gilda apologize. Does shithorse at least act nice about it, apologize herself? Fuck no. She demands the apology. She thinks she could never do any wrong. The idea that she should at least give her friend some fucking consideration never even crossed her mind. The idea that maybe the way she handled the situation in the best way was never even considered.


 No.24776

>>24775

>stop talking about ponyshit

>writes a book

Well done.


 No.24778

>>24776

I know. I wanted to avoid this. Thus why I said that. Got to triggered, though.


 No.24811

File: 213cb876256e23f⋯.jpg (31.02 KB, 505x431, 505:431, 1457535126792.jpg)

>>24754

>>24756

>>24769

>>24775

Whoa what the hell happened. Suddenly a discussion about mlp?


 No.24813

>>24775

these sheets can make just about any character desirable can't they?


 No.24815

File: 33ab48f72feac8d⋯.png (2.47 MB, 1035x1024, 1035:1024, 1488609222201.png)

>>24811

it's an improvement tbh


 No.24822

>>24772

Who's cylo?


 No.24823

File: 35b37f443197ee1⋯.png (108.62 KB, 292x257, 292:257, 1483126617539.png)

>>24764

Look around you. Gays all over the shop, you'll be one of them, sooner or later. Too proud to show your true face, eh? Mh... What's that smell? Oh, the sweet cum. It sings to me. It's enough to make a man sick.

>>24767

If we look at what happened in the past, the far left was always the one to blame. Far left protests violently against Milo, Leftie attacks Rightie, Leftie gets shot in the stomach, Rightie is not convicted because of self defense.

The lefties are the violent ones. The right only defends itself. It'll always be like that.


 No.24853

>>24426

Stalin's death toll is around ten million, and that's including the Holodomar.


 No.24890

File: 5ebddfe5866ba79⋯.jpg (25.92 KB, 540x481, 540:481, Stalin causing the Holodom….jpg)

>>24767

Well that's fucking great, you didn't even cite a law. Otherwise you wouldn't have said something so fucktarded. Get outta here.

>>24775

I never watched MLP but if what you're saying is true, you make a powerful case, Anon.

>>24823

D I S G U S T

>>24853

But the holodohoax was actually a famine caused by weather conditions, so it's not really his fault. In all fairness I think we can agree not to attribute nature to the state of sociopolitics.


 No.24951

>>24890

I can't cite a law that doesn't fucking exist, you moron.

You're the one what decided to make the case that "threatening" to defend yourself is assault.

All I can do is provide you reasons why it isn't, because that would be massively stupid by any stretch of the imagination.


 No.25142

Why doesnt shit like this happen in my country?

It would be hilarious

We only have jews, fats and faggots


 No.31475

File: 03f88c3b7a7fe88⋯.jpg (70.32 KB, 769x740, 769:740, photo_2017-05-23_17-41-34.jpg)

>>23275

>>23309

Social conservatism is still retarded, but holy fuck that's a well-made video. I'm surprised how much work went into that. Love it.

>>23278

>I don't mind people roleplaying as nazis or commies, furry or otherwise, and from what I heard about the "Furry Raiders" they strike me more as edgy IRL shitposters rather than a serious political affiliation with pretty much anything.

Exactly, I understand the RMFC organizer was a Sovereign Citizen too autistic to pay his fucking taxes, but otherwise it's very implausible that a large IRL group are 1488--especially when you go to their actual website. The "OMG Nazis!" paranoia is something straight out of Laird Wilcox's The Watchdogs.

>However, this "nazi" punching meme thing has to end. Even if they are actual nazis, if they don't break the law or attack you first, you can't just go and punch them. But the left tries to argue that ideas and words can be "violence" so that the next step is them justifying punching you.

YES. They like using Kafkaesque definitions.

>Antifa and other commie shits like that are no different from skinhead biker retards and other people of their ilk, except for the fact that they are spoiled upper-middle class shits who don't lift a 60yo woman could kick their asses if they don't have the crowd on their side.

YES. Both groups are notable for being cowardly. In Jim Goad's interviews with Jack Donovan and with Red Ice Radio, he said that they're so violent because they feel they have power. Think about it, would Dietrich Bonhoeffer or White Rose members or anti-authoritarians assault or kill you because they don't like your opinion? No, an authoritarian would. And authoritarians have lots of bottled-up aggression and have strong feelings of self-righteousness, so they go after weaker targets sanctioned by the proper authorities. According to Scott Alexander's review of Hannah Arendt, the biggest obstacle to fascism are the "well, actually..." contrarians that Arthur "no bad tactics, only bad targets" Chu complains about.

> Lefties are permanently buttsore about Trump, so we're probably looking at 4-8 years of tantrums and borderline illegal activity.

Considering we want them to get in trouble and not have lots of power, that's a good thing, it helps make people race realists or at least TumblrInAction anti-SJWs. When there's right-wing stuff, the Overton Window is pushed left. Case in point: the Confederate Flag getting banned after Roof. If you want the Overton Window to broaden a little and be more accepting of the right, logically you'll want as many black chimpouts, Muslim terrorist attacks and antifa tardrage episodes as possible and as few right-wing incidents as possible.

And yes, I'm aware leftists try to steer it to candlelight vigils and "PrayFor" and "SolidarityWith" and "don't hate Muslims" and other ethnosuicidal cuck responses when there's a Muslim terrorist attack, but it's undeniable that the more those are, the more Saxons Begin To Hate.

>>23297

It's governments, hate speech laws, and the media in places like Sweden doxxing you that scare me much more than bike locks do. That's what I'm concerned about. I like freedom.

>Although I will say it's blatantly fucking obvious that the lib-babies started this, they even prove it with the images on their website. That D&C letter was completely justified, if you say you're going to come to the con and hit people, whether you are a spindly hipster faggot who actually will or not, you still shouldn't be allowed to come.

^ ^ ^ ^ ^

>>23411

I have Coincidence Detector installed in my browser if that counts. I'm not going to sperg out about normal people being Jewish, it's the SJWs and general scumbags that I'm a hater about (example: "fellow white people, don't you agree that white people are cancer and should go extinct?" tweets--just look up the DiaryOfAWimpyYid hashtag on Twitter). And they're overwhelmingly Ashkenazim, there aren't a lot of Sephardic or Mizrahi commies.

>>23451

If there's another con and it doesn't suck, I'm happy.

>>23479

> I didn't even like RMFC the year I attended but I know how important it was to some. Sad.

Exactly. Thousands of people got screwed over because an idiot refused to file tax returns because Muh Sovereign Citizenship.

>Why can't people respect speech that they disagree with? Be a nazi or a communist or whatever, but this is a furry convention! Politics truly aren't relevant here! I WANT to see a fursuiter in a full SS uniform cordially mingling with everyone else because one of the hallmarks of the fandom has always been acceptance... right? Don't talk to him if you don't want to but we are all furries, kumbaya and such... right? I know it wasn't always like this.

I, too, like hanging out with non-authoritarians.

>>23480

Communal rebellion and degeneracy is legit.

>>23578

^


 No.31478

>>31475

>Bumping a month's-old bullshit /pol/ thread that is only tangentially related to furries, to do nothing but circlejerk with everyone he agrees with and spout more /pol/ nonsense jargon

I don't know if this is a bannable offense, but it SHOULD be.


 No.31488

>>24060

Hi FayV

Still burying your face in Deo's fetid snatch I see

>being punched doesn't allow you to respond with deadly force

Confirmed for not knowing a goddamn thing about how self-defense works legally


 No.31491

>>23127

Honestly, it's better to draw attention to situations like this versus let it fester and then be surprised that there was a paper trail and the potential to end the situation early when something happens.

>>23246

You're not alone.

>>23278

>Even if they are actual nazis, if they don't break the law or attack you first, you can't just go and punch them.

Exactly, and ANTIFA started that whole situation by sucker-punching Spencer while he was speaking on-air. (Just stunned him versus knocked him down, but still.)

What bothers me more though is how fast that 'Punch a Nazi' call-to-action spread. Hell, some leftist werewolf fans used it as the basis for a whole e-zine recently, judging from the ANTIFA symbols and slogans they allowed into it.

>>23275

Heh. That Command and Conquer theme fits so perfectly.

>>24626

Don't listen to Rolling Stone. They're shit-peddlers.

Remember the fake University of Virginia rape story they ran with a few years back that destroyed a student's life, and which resulted in them being sued for defamation?


 No.31533

>>31488

Depends which state you're in. For example, in Texas, you can legally kill someone in "self-defense" of your property. Meaning, if someone steals something from you, even like $5, you can get away with murder scott-free.

And people wonder why Americans are so fucked up.


 No.31536

>>31533

>Depends which state you're in. For example, in Texas, you can legally kill someone in "self-defense" of your property. Meaning, if someone steals something from you, even like $5, you can get away with murder scott-free.

Try not stealing shit, then, asshole.

>And people wonder why Americans are so fucked up.

Because the rest of the world is just doing so well right now.

Oh. Right.

The US has a lot of issues, but being able to defend one's self with deadly force? Not one of them.


 No.31540

Sounds like sourcefam is up to his usual tricks.


 No.31552

>>31536

There IS a such thing called "disproportionate retribution". No matter how angry it makes you, your $5 IS NOT WORTH AS MUCH AS A HUMAN LIFE. I know you're a miserable, angry child that wishes he could murder the entire family of someone who cuts you off in traffic, or torture for years the guy who kicked you in the ass every day at school, but the world doesn't work that way, and shouldn't work that way.

And the rest of the world is doing just fine. You think a few hundred people getting blown up by terrorists makes a fucking difference? As hard as the media tries to spin it, terrorism has had zero effect on 99.99999% of people in the world other than making them take their shoes off at the airport. If you're not directly attacked, you aren't impacted. Try looking up statistics about how many kids are killed in America because their idiot parents leave guns lying around their house; meanwhile the number of people killed in home-invasion robberies last year was ZERO. Oh, but because you're a "good guy" and they're a "bad guy", it's totally okay for you to play God and take lives whenever you're so much as minorly inconvenienced by someone. You're just an ordinary murderer looking for a way to justify his bloodlust through retard tribalism, thinking that the solution to gun violence is more gun violence.


 No.31562

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>>31533

>people shouldn't protect themselves from someone trying to rob them

Fuck off, cuckold.

>>31552

Unfortunately for you, you don't get to say what counts as "enough" when it comes to some asshole robbing you. IT ain't about the item robbed or the value of it, or any of that shit. It's about being fucking robbed.

The world should work that way. The asshole kid who spits on people might've got away with it, whenever he did it to you, but punch him in the face and I guarantee he'll never do it again.

Nice source on that statistic, faglord. I'm sure I'll buy your "zero killed" bullshit at face value. It ain't like you're running any kind of agenda or anything, right?

It ain't about "playing god". It's about protecting what's yours. That's it. That's all there is to it. It's about preserving the sanctity of your own.

I'd really suggest you look at self-defense statistics. It's saved a mass of lives, and prevented countless rapes. Unless you're one of those liberal cuckolds who're the kind of asshound who says "Just let them rape you!".


 No.31565

>>31562

You've got a ready-made array of pretty, pretty "infographics" with GOP-style fearmongering taglines and bullshit "sources" ready to go, and yet *I* am the one with the agenda??

That's a fucking laugh riot, that is. Tell you what, internet tough guy: As soon as I hear about someone walking into Congress and shooting those rich old fuckers for the trillions of dollars they fleece from America on the daily, I'll believe the "we should kill people who rob us" rhetoric. Until then, you're just a paranoid retard clinging to his precious guns and thinking if he shoots someone it'll make him the hero. "Preserving the sanctity of your own". You're so adorable. Exactly like those fat cunts in WalMart who get into fistfights over bags of cheetos.


 No.31568

>>31562

You do know that weapons considered military grade in any other country of the world, are considered civilian class in america? Do you know that non-fatal can actually mean deadly?

Those utter nonsense, non-fatal mean it doesn't kill, if 1000 people would suddenly go into the street and murder everyone they meet those statistic would not increase, as dead people do not count in non-lethal confrontation, plus those law are completely bonkers, you don't need an automatic gun of any kind to defend yourself, nor you need a whole arsenal to do it


 No.31571

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>>31565

Never said I didn't have an agenda, but at least my shit has sources.

You'll change your tune when your house gets broken into, your wife gets raped in front of you, and all your livelihood gets stolen, before you get a deforming scar from the boot of the criminal when you thought to act indignant.

>>31568

Yes. It's retarded. Semi-automatic rifles are not 'military grade'.

You do realize how stastistics work, right? When you say "percentage of non-fatal shootings", in the case of that first image it means the remaining 8.3% was fatal.

Unless you're referring to some other stastistic, of course.

In America, automatic weapons are controlled by a large tax credit, and besides that are extremely expensive. They have to be made before a certain date, and are completely registered. It's actually easier to get automatic weapons in several no-gun rights nations than it is in America because of this. I guess I shouldn't be surprised. It's fairly typical for a no-guns to be a massively uninformed libcuck.

You don't need a TV, either, faggot. You don't need half the stuff in your house. It isn't the bill of "NEEDS", you overblown dicksucker. It's the bill of "RIGHTS". You shouldn't punish law-abiding citizens for the actions of a few. See the stats in the third picture in the post you replied to. You're punishing people for 0.003% of firearms. Most of which were procured illegally, at that, and would be kept regardless of legislation.

Works in places like the UK only because they didn't have a huge history of firearm ownership, and they're a tiny ass nation with a homogeneous population. Not to mention a place with a massive police state, and not many actually protected rights for its citizenry.


 No.31603

>>31571

No, you don't have the right to shot to anyone you don't like, it doesn't matter how hard you don't like him/her, or how offending your imaginary offense perpetrated against you is


 No.31605

>>31571

>You'll change your tune when "shit that will never happen for $200", Alex.

You're more likely to die in a plane crash, car crash, of cancer, or being struck by lightning, or anything else than this happening. Home invasion robberies are so rare they practically never happen. Even POLICE OFFICERS are very likely to go their entire career never shooting someone. But you think you're going to need to jump into action some day to protect your nest? Oooh, you big strong MAN, how brave and heroic you are.

Oh, and your infographic helpfully pointed out that 600 people were killed accidentally in 2011 (which is FAR below the reality because most are reported as suicide). Many of those were children. Supposing you ever get a wife, you'll never have to protect her. But your kid might just shoot himself in the face.

Wait, I know! You'll keep it locked up like you're supposed to, so your kid can't get his hands on it. Then, when the robber breaks in, in the middle of the night, you will just have to ask him nicely to let you go unlock your safe. No problems!


 No.31610

>>31603

And what are you gonna do about it?

Raid my property?

Eat a bullet, commie bitch. Come try me.


 No.31611

>>31605

Better to have it and not needed than to need it and not have it. Besides, your chances rise exponentially if you're living in a shitty area. Not everyone's a rich cuckold living off mommy's dollar, living in a safe and secure gated community with 24/7 police protection.

As for police, again you point to no source, but besides that, what of simply pointing their firearm at someone? What's the rate for cops in cities, like Detroit, or other high-crime areas?

It would very much help if you'd point out which infographic you're referring to. There's a lot here, and I don't really see much listing 'accidental shooting' outside the 2nd image in >>31571 , in which case I would remind you that the fourth image shows that there are ~80m gun owners, which'd be a 0.00075%th percent of gun owners.

You're talking up a game about how "m-muh self defense nevah happens", when your shit seems to happen less, and accounts for a microscopic portion of those who own firearms.

Or I'll teach my kid basic gun safety, and not raise a literal retard.

Kids are not as uncontrollable as liberals seem to believe. They only think that because they're completely terrible parents, who never bother to earn the respect of their children, and ultimately give them whatever they want.

>>31603

Yeah, no shit, you strawmanning faggot. But we ain't talking about just murdering some here, you dickmongering assqueer.

We're talking about instances clearly laid out by the law, 'least in Texas, involving someone robbing you.


 No.31612

>>31605

My kid won't shoot himself because he's not going to be a leftist cuck that's never seen a gun before.

If people like you did ACTUAL PARENTING, maybe accidents would be much rarer.

The only legislation that can save you from having to actually RAISE THE CHILDREN YOU POPPED OUT, is active eugenics.

We simply snip your balls if you fail to pass a responsibility or I.Q. test.

How's that for legislation? Now you want a gun, don't you? Legislation doesn't look so friendly, all the sudden, does it, you Leftypol cock gobbler?


 No.31615

>>31603

>No, you don't have the right to shot to anyone you don't like, it doesn't matter how hard you don't like him/her, or how offending your imaginary offense perpetrated against you is

There's nothing fucking imaginary about a robbery or any other infringement of my person or my property. I've been stolen from multiple times before, I've had my identity stolen, I've been physically assaulted more times than I can count and let me tell you I would, in every one of those instances, not only feel no qualms about drawing on the offender, but giving him a terminal case of lead poisoning if he didn't have the good goddamn sense to surrender or flee. If you break into my house, accost me on the street unlawfully or otherwise infringe upon my person or property you will get exactly ONE fucking warning when I clear leather, asshole, and may whatever god you pray to help your poor soul if you don't heed that warning.


 No.31640

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>>23278

>It's fucked. Lefties are permanently buttsore about Trump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFLoy_AN22E

Meh, the trump election was a brilliant, if opportunist use of a gradually rising class-consciousness.

We'll be fine though.

To be fair, I think we need more actual radical leftists backed by solid theory, who are willing to arm themselves. Rather than being divided into each of our little sectarian, identitarian offshoots of center-right liberal parties like the Democrats or the Green parties and our little sub-sub-sub pockets of third-wave intersectional whatever-the-fucks who don't believe in guns, but want some kind of violent tantrum so they can go back to the every day functioning of things without ever accomplishing anything, but are still able to /feel/ that something happened because of it.

Meanwhile, the machine grinds on, people dying of simple resource mis-allocation and its effects globally, but it's quiet *here*, and we're fine for now!


 No.31641

>>31615

>I've had my identity stolen,

I unironically want a vigilante comic about a hero who finds and shoots identity thieves.


 No.31645

>>31562

It's worth mentioning with the "violent crime in the UK vs USA" statistic that the definition of violent crime covers significantly more specific crimes in the UK than in the US, so it's expected that more crimes would be labeled as "violent crimes" in the UK.

>In the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program, violent crime is composed of four offenses: murder and nonnegligent manslaughter, forcible rape, robbery, and aggravated assault. Violent crimes are defined in the UCR Program as those offenses which involve force or threat of force.

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/violent-crime

>Violent crime covers a wide range of offences, from minor assaults such as pushing and shoving that result in no physical harm through to serious incidents of wounding and homicide. Sexual offences include rape, sexual assault and unlawful sexual activity against adults and children, sexual grooming and indecent exposure.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/compendium/focusonviolentcrimeandsexualoffences/yearendingmarch2015/chapter1overviewofviolentcrimeandsexualoffences#type-of-violence

You probably want to leave out that info-graphic next time you post these. Preferably replace it with something that isn't misleading.


 No.31646

>>31640

I'd like to add that unprovoked nazi punching is stupid, and only done by people who are stupid.

If you've got a bunch of them looking to march through a mostly minority neighborhood as an intimidation tactic, eh alright, I'll buy it.

If you're just hitting random dipshits giving interviews about green meme frogs then you're a jackass, and you're making a martyr out of them.


 No.31649

>>31645

A fair point. They're pretty old ones I got from /k/ ages ago.


 No.31651

>>31649

It's a general problem with comparing crime statistics between any countries that don't have absolutely identical legal systems.

This article covers the issue really well.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-19592372


 No.31655

>>31611

>Or I'll teach my kid basic gun safety, and not raise a literal retard

>>31612

>My kid won't shoot himself because he's not going to be a leftist cuck that's never seen a gun before

Clearly, neither of you have ever actually seen a child. No big surprise, since you're both clearly underage b&; whatever. When they're two years old, not only can you not teach a child JACK SHIT that they'll actually listen to (unless you're one of those old-fashioned parents who carry around a stick and beat them whenever they go out of line, in which case good luck making it to their being two without them getting seized by CPS), especially when it involves grabbing shit, they pick up and manipulate, and usually shove into their mouths, absolutely fucking everything.

Much as it's probably a REALLY GOOD IDEA that guns would be made with triggers that can't be pulled by a toddler, because they lack the requisite grip strength, that isn't reality. Guns are, after all, made to be as simple and easy to operate as flipping a light switch.

>>31612

>We simply snip your balls if you fail to pass a responsibility or I.Q. test

I was tested at an IQ of over 160, and am otherwise at least capable of recognizing that it's a poor indicator of intellectual capacity for adults. Something you can't possibly manage, because you probably come from a place where all they know is "smat people have big ah-cyoos!" Funny thing, they'd come after you, first, because tests like those are written by the liberal psychologists you so hate, and "having dangerous weapons around small children" would top their list of shit that won't fly. So you better pray to your worthless Jeezus that such tests never happen, or the South is going to be collectively banned from breeding up any more ignorant festering tweakers.


 No.31658

>>31655

When they're that young they're not going to be able to get to the places where firearms are kept due to being fucking tiny, anyway, so I think it's a mute fucking point

Besides, at that age, I doubt they have the strength to pull the trigger, let alone rack the slide.

Anyway, yes, at that age it's best to smack the kid a bit to make sure they fall in line. No need to beat them hard, never bother leaving a mark. Just enough to shock 'em.

Depends entirely on the trigger. Most my pistols, which are the only firearms ever 'loose' I've got, when in double action mode are going to be a massive trigger pull. And that's still assuming you keep one in the chamber.


 No.32721

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>>24426

>spook this

>spook that

>everything that forces me up to a higher standard is a spook because I dont want to improve!

I will agree with Stirner when it comes to certain aspects of life that we strive for or attempt to maintain are indeed manufactured by the community and system.

HOWEVER

Do you people never understand the need for a moral code and guideline to keep people in check and happy. Religion is a perfect example of this, with how something so simple as putting your hands together and uttering a few words to your patron god can keep you going throughout the day. As well as the promise of paradise through hard work and discipline, which in turn keeps people motivated and willing to continue working. The expectations that the community places unto you (family. Friends. Neighbours. Etc) are things meant to keep you motivated and productive.

But this cancerous ideology you commie shitheads keep spreading. How nothing in life matters and the only thing you're being fed are lies, keeps people heavily demoralized. Because they feel as if the cause their working and fighting for is ultimately a spook in its own right.


 No.32722

>>32721

>Because they feel as if the cause their working and fighting for is ultimately a spook in its own right

Well, they'd be completely right.

Look, nobody should be doing a GODDAMN THING for any cause or group or country or anything. That's all bullshit. Let the politicians fight their own wars. Live for yourself, for your friends and family, and fuck everything else. The world is remarkably insistent on maintaining the status quo. Hardly anything, even the rise of global terrorism, has a effect on your life unless you're unlucky enough to be attacked directly (and the chances of that are like getting struck by lightning). Who the President is has no effect. What economic system they tell you you're living in has no effect. What kinds of TV of video games are popular right now has no effect. Whatever political system you think is great or is cancer has no effect.

Oh sure, the media and the rich and the hotheaded assholes want you to THINK it does, but it does not. Take a good, hard look at your life over the last five years or so. Ask yourself how whatever nebulous boogyman that you so violently fear and oppose has actually impacted your life. No, not what they COULD do, not what you've been TOLD they do, not what you FEAR might happen. None of that is real! How has it directly changed what you do when you get up in the morning, what kind of job you have, what kind of friends you keep? There isn't anything, of course, unless you caused those changes yourself. You don't have to read those political blogs; you don't have to go to the picket lines; you don't have to froth your useless vitriol at anons who don't care. Just live your own life, and let everyone else live theirs. You'll never change anything, anyway; it's a delusion of grandeur to think otherwise.

What you do with your own two hands is the ONLY power you are EVER going to have. Don't squander it. So go build a fucking birdhouse or something. Make some use out of your life before it's gone.


 No.32749

>>32722

>live for yourself

>except when that fight for survival leads to any sort of pact, agreement or culture over your safety that's a spook

You're just a glorified anarchist, and an anarchist is merely the weapon for a fucking Marxist.

THE BUDDY SYSTEM RULES


 No.32775

>>32749

The government creates a system of safety for its own sake. I never said anything about anarchy, so don't strawman me. You don't understand anything. You can only punch in the darkness while screaming about boogymen who are out to GET YOU.

Ooooh, watch out! Those evil anarchist marxist liberal commie jewish spook lizard people know you're onto them. They always trace the IP of someone smart enough to use red text!


 No.32783

>>32775

Commies fucking suck. They suck so fucking much that whenever they fuck up (and they do so CONSTANTLY) they splutter "T-that wasn't REAL COMMUNISM!" Do you want to know just how bad commies suck? They suck so bad that one of the few times a bunch of commies actually made it work without a BLOODBATH (Makhno) a bunch of OTHER COMMIES (Marxist-Leninist types) came in and WRECKED THEIR SHIT for REASONS.

The legacy of communism and socialism is one of repeated failure, occasionally with thousands upon thousands of people fucking dying for no fucking good reason whatsoever. You faggots are STILL so ASSPAINED over Venezuela's collapse that you call what happened there "state capitalism" like the dishonest fucks you are.


 No.32785

>>32783

Well now you see, somebody somewhere owned something privately when the collapse happened and the state didn't take it from them, so OBVIOUSLY Venezuela wasn't real communism you dumb redneck fuck.


 No.32788

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>>32722

>Just live for yourself

>nothing in life matters

>your actions dont mean anything

But anon, thats fucking retarded.

If what you said is indeed true then that means there wouldnt be a real reason to believe in any form of ideology what so ever, be it communism, capitalism, christianity, atheism, etc. You're essentially "spooking" yourself into believing what you say holds any real meaning, as ideologies like egoism and nihilism are spooks in there own right.

And if this is what most commies believe in, then that means they shouldnt even fight against the 1% as all the 1% are doing is acting in their own self interest and for their own life. As im fairly sure the very rich hold the exact same belief as Max Stirner as well as other philosophers that would agree with him. With such things as lacking morals, or any real form of ethical business practices.

Which goes back to my original point in that what you would call "spooks" are a necessary in any civilisation so that people dont go around ruining everything for everybody else.


 No.32810

>>32785

>tfw leftypol unironically believes exactly this

Capitalism is far from perfect, but it beats the FUCK out of the alternatives given


 No.32815

leftypol isn't invited here. GTFO


 No.32836

>The ability of private citizens to keep guns statistically leads to more untended kids shooting themselves than robberies being stopped.

So? Bath tubs statistically cause more deaths than feral dogs but I'm not going to start petting strange animals and quit bathing.


 No.32845

>>32836

You need to bathe; you don't need a gun. Nobody NEEDS a gun.

Oh sure, there may be times in their life (extremely rare times, like as often as someone gets struck by lightning, in a country as safe as this one) where having a gun would be NICE, and even when it would safe their life. But that can apply to many things. There may be times in your life when it would be great to have a doctor around, but that doesn't mean you're going to bring a doctor around by leash all the time, just to prepare for the tiny possibility that you might be injured and need immediate medical care. That's called PARANOIA.

Look at it this way: a few months ago at the place where I work, a woman was in a bathroom and the doorknob broke inside. No matter how she pulled or pushed or twisted the thing, it would not open; she was stuck in there. She had to bang on the door until someone heard, and could fetch the boss, who got a handyman who jimmied it open. It took like an hour (and it was a fucking metal door with beefy hinges; you couldn't bust it down with a kick or a shoulder blow or anything).

Now, if only she had carried a SCREWDRIVER in her purse, she could have taken apart the doorknob mechanism and freed herself. So, in this case, it would be logical for everyone to carry a screwdriver in their pocket, in case they are ever stuck behind a broken door and need to free themselves. I mean, shit, supposing there is a fire, getting that door open would be the difference between life and death!

But nobody carries a screwdriver in their pocket. Why? Because very few people ever get stuck behind a locked door and need one. It's a highly UNLIKELY thing to fear, and so a completely illogical thing to prepare for. If you told your psychiatrist that you carried a goddamn screwdriver, because you had a deadly fear of such a possibility, he'd think you were crazy. But having a shotgun under your bed because you have a deadly fear of getting robbed in the middle of the night is somehow considered rational. Okay. Do you also carry flint and tinder when you go on an airplane, in case you crash on a deserted island and need to start a fire? It's PARANOIA, nothing more.

It kinda makes you wonder about shit. Like terrorism. How many people are killed by terrorism each year? Like a couple hundred? Yet we devote so much time and energy and effort and fear and hatred, when disease and car accidents kill MILLIONS per year. How come there's not a moment of silence for the fifty people who died of cancer yesterday, alongside the three people who got blown the fuck up by a terrorist bomb.

I'd be willing to bet money that somewhere, sometimes, in some airport over the last decade, someone has died because they had to take off their shoes. Like fell over and hit their head, or stretched down and overexerted themselves and had a heart attack of something. Literally nobody has ever died because of a shoe bomb being brought onto an airplane, yet a billion people have had to take their fucking shoes off since then. It's retarded. It's because of people like you that can't get your fucking priorities straight! What? Is it just not HEROIC enough to cure AIDS or cancer, or build self-driving cars or whatever? Come on.

It's a virtual guarantee that, as an American, you'll die prematurely as a result of a shitty diet. Heart disease, stroke, diabetes, or COPD/cancer from smoking if you do that, or cirrhosis/kidney-failure if you drink too much. You're not going to get killed by a "bad guy" that you could have bravely fought off with your big boy gun. No. You're going to die like a disgusting sack of meat in a hospital bed, a victim of your own lifestyle. Oh, you'll prepare for the things that will never happen, but won't do a damn thing about that deadly beer-belly. Can't get your priorities straight.


 No.32880

>>32845

Not whoever you're talking to, but I saw your post and I just HAVE to say something.

>You need to bathe; you don't need a gun. Nobody NEEDS a gun.

In the US there are still plenty of people who regularly hunt for food out of necessity because it's cheaper to get a rifle or a shotgun and a few rounds/shells to kill deer or other game than it would be for them to constantly drive to the nearest grocery store for sustenance.

Not everyone lives in a city where you can walk a mile in any direction and find a store.

>Oh sure, there may be times in their life (extremely rare times, like as often as someone gets struck by lightning, in a country as safe as this one) where having a gun would be NICE, and even when it would safe their life. But that can apply to many things. There may be times in your life when it would be great to have a doctor around, but that doesn't mean you're going to bring a doctor around by leash all the time, just to prepare for the tiny possibility that you might be injured and need immediate medical care. That's called PARANOIA.

Being prepared for something doesn't make you paranoid, and carrying around a small pistol isn't anywhere near as retarded as your claim of "dragging a doctor around by a leash". Being prepared for a self-defense situation doesn't mean you're terrified everyone is out to get you. Are you going to say someone who has taken boxing lessons is paranoid because they're prepared to hit back if someone punches them?

>Look at it this way: a few months ago at the place where I work, a woman was in a bathroom and the doorknob broke inside. No matter how she pulled or pushed or twisted the thing, it would not open; she was stuck in there. She had to bang on the door until someone heard, and could fetch the boss, who got a handyman who jimmied it open. It took like an hour (and it was a fucking metal door with beefy hinges; you couldn't bust it down with a kick or a shoulder blow or anything).

>Now, if only she had carried a SCREWDRIVER in her purse, she could have taken apart the doorknob mechanism and freed herself. So, in this case, it would be logical for everyone to carry a screwdriver in their pocket, in case they are ever stuck behind a broken door and need to free themselves. I mean, shit, supposing there is a fire, getting that door open would be the difference between life and death!

>But nobody carries a screwdriver in their pocket. Why? Because very few people ever get stuck behind a locked door and need one. It's a highly UNLIKELY thing to fear, and so a completely illogical thing to prepare for. If you told your psychiatrist that you carried a goddamn screwdriver, because you had a deadly fear of such a possibility, he'd think you were crazy. But having a shotgun under your bed because you have a deadly fear of getting robbed in the middle of the night is somehow considered rational. Okay. Do you also carry flint and tinder when you go on an airplane, in case you crash on a deserted island and need to start a fire? It's PARANOIA, nothing more.

Simply having a shotgun handy in case of a robbery doesn't mean you're in constant fear of it, it means you're ready in the unlikely event it happens. Also, nobody would think you're crazy for having a screwdriver or flint. What the fuck?

>It kinda makes you wonder about shit. Like terrorism. How many people are killed by terrorism each year? Like a couple hundred? Yet we devote so much time and energy and effort and fear and hatred, when disease and car accidents kill MILLIONS per year. How come there's not a moment of silence for the fifty people who died of cancer yesterday, alongside the three people who got blown the fuck up by a terrorist bomb.

So because something kills more people than terrorism we shouldn't take steps to prevent terrorist attacks? Also, moments of silence (which I think are dumb in general tbh) are held over terrorist attacks because they're willing acts of violence, not accidents or lethal diseases that nobody went out of their way to give you.

>I'd be willing to bet money that somewhere, sometimes, in some airport over the last decade, someone has died because they had to take off their shoes. Like fell over and hit their head, or stretched down and overexerted themselves and had a heart attack of something. Literally nobody has ever died because of a shoe bomb being brought onto an airplane, yet a billion people have had to take their fucking shoes off since then. It's retarded. It's because of people like you that can't get your fucking priorities straight! What? Is it just not HEROIC enough to cure AIDS or cancer, or build self-driving cars or whatever? Come on.

So because of freak incidents of people falling over you shouldn't check for bombs? And what the fuck are you on about with AIDS and self-driving cars? Are you padding your poorly thought out arguments with virtue signalling or some shit?

cont.


 No.32881

>>32880

>It's a virtual guarantee that, as an American, you'll die prematurely as a result of a shitty diet. Heart disease, stroke, diabetes, or COPD/cancer from smoking if you do that, or cirrhosis/kidney-failure if you drink too much. You're not going to get killed by a "bad guy" that you could have bravely fought off with your big boy gun. No. You're going to die like a disgusting sack of meat in a hospital bed, a victim of your own lifestyle. Oh, you'll prepare for the things that will never happen, but won't do a damn thing about that deadly beer-belly. Can't get your priorities straight.

Okay now you're just going full ad hominem and trying to make the guy you're arguing with into some fucked up stereotype without really even addressing any of his arguments.


 No.32914

>>32880

>Being prepared for something doesn't make you paranoid

Being prepared for something that most likely will never happen, is the definition of paranoid. When an ex-soldier cases a restaurant for the exits and the cover zones, in case a bunch of gunmen burst in and start shooting, it's PTSD. If a normal schmuck does it, it's paranoia.

>Also, nobody would think you're crazy for having a screwdriver or flint

Do you carry either with you? No...? Then you obviously don't find it necessary to prepare for those things.

>And what the fuck are you on about with AIDS and self-driving cars?

If all the billions and billions of dollars wasted chucking bombs at ISIS and al Qaeda and Hamas and whoever else were spent on scientific research, millions of lives would be saved, as opposed to maybe a few hundred. As I said, it's about priorities; it's about fearmongering and emotions and a hero-complex overriding logic. It's the country equivalent of a poor guy buying guns instead of paying his electric bill.

>full ad hominem

It's not ad hominem if it's more than likely true. It's mean-spirited, crass, and extremely black, but it's also completely true.


 No.32924

>>32845

This nigger has serious autism.

Yeah, I don't need a gun. I also don't need gym access to continue strength training or whey protein to supplement my dietary intake. I don't need video games. I don't need to own a dog. I don't need furry porn for masturbation material.

But I I want them, have conceivable use for them, and am responsible enough to possess them. That's the end of the discussion as far as I'm concerned.

Also the analogy about leashing a doctor, while kinky and hitting close to home in my case, is flawed. I might not keep a doctor around, but I sure as hell have over-the-counter drugs and a first aid kit at home. I don't hire a security guard to patrol my property at night, either. I just keep a shotgun.

And while people might not carry screwdrivers, they do carry pocket knives and Swiss-army toolkits sometimes. That's not really weird in concept at all.


 No.32931

>>32924

>and am responsible enough to possess them

Highly debatable.


 No.32938

>>32931

That isn't your call to make, faggot

I will bear arms and if you fuck with me I guarantee you will be LUCKY if you live to regret it. You come making grabby hands at my guns you're going to get them shot right the fuck off.

I can ASSURE you that anyone who does not infringe upon me will not be shot. I don't respond to words with physical violence, unlike your ilk. But if you see me carrying and you go and grab for my gun to make a point, I'll fucking perforate you like cheap tissue paper, you worthless little cocksucker.


 No.32943

>>32914

Hoo boy you're clearly insecure about your argument and are attempting to make your opponents look bad through baseless insults instead of logic. That is the very definition of ad hominem.

>Being prepared for something that most likely will never happen, is the definition of paranoid. When an ex-soldier cases a restaurant for the exits and the cover zones, in case a bunch of gunmen burst in and start shooting, it's PTSD. If a normal schmuck does it, it's paranoia.

No, both of them are simply being prepared. The definition of paranoia s an extreme fear, which applies to anything and everything from being terrified of blowing your nose because of nosebleeds to being absolutely afraid you're going to die if you're anywhere near a gun (sort of like how you're behaving). Actually, there's a term for your particular brand of paranoia, it's called hoplophobia.

>Do you carry either with you? No...? Then you obviously don't find it necessary to prepare for those things.

That's my call to make if I think I personally need them, and I wouldn't ridicule someone for carrying those things because they think they might need them either. You sound like a petulant teenager reaching for any excuse to feel elitist when you say things like that tbh

>If all the billions and billions of dollars wasted chucking bombs at ISIS and al Qaeda and Hamas and whoever else were spent on scientific research, millions of lives would be saved, as opposed to maybe a few hundred. As I said, it's about priorities; it's about fearmongering and emotions and a hero-complex overriding logic. It's the country equivalent of a poor guy buying guns instead of paying his electric bill.

The government wasting money on bombs has nothing to do with someone keeping a firearm, it's completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand and it looks to me like you're tossing it out there to muddy up the discussion.

>It's not ad hominem if it's more than likely true. It's mean-spirited, crass, and extremely black, but it's also completely true.

You're not convincing anybody there champ, try not to project some absurd stereotype onto your opponent when arguing on imageboards, it makes you come off as feeble minded and only hurts your position.

Why must you break down like this instead of being civil about the issue?


 No.32946

>>32938

>Bitch bitch moan moan rage rage testosterone overload

If someone gets close enough to grab your precious guns, and has devices to actually kill you instead of just start a fight (like they have a knife) you'll be dead before you can get to your gun. I would hope you realize that even a powerful offensive weapon provides zero defense, but I doubt it. Having the power of God, to take lives when and where you wish, tends to make people ffools because they think it also makes them omniscient and invulnerable. And no, I'm not religious; it's just a metaphor. If your attacker is closer than 15 feet, he can grab onto you before you can unholster and raise your weapon, and if he's stronger then you're fucked. All your whining bravado won't help then.

>>32943

I'm not sure how you missed my saying several times about "getting priorities straight", but I'll say it again. Wasting time, money, and effort preparing for something that will likely never happen is foolish when there are better uses for those resources. Put the time and effort you took to learn how to shoot a gun, and you could learn a new career skill. Put the money spent on guns into an investment, and you can make more money.

Terrorism, and crime, and all those sorts of issues are just another method the government uses to distract people. It's like handing a child a stuffed toy while they are given a hypodermic injection. So long as you think you're protecting yourselves from the evil boogymen of the world, fighting the good fight, you're distracted as the government bleeds its citizens dry with taxes, and fucks with their basic rights, to make themselves richer and more powerful. The issue with priorities is that you're okay with the government spending trillions on fighting terrorism, instead of improving the lives of its citizens directly. As I told the other guy, offense is not defense. The existing defenses to keep terrorists out of the country, to police them so they are caught before they can strike, are sufficient to protect us. Not perfect, but sufficient.

All fighting the terrorists does is waste money and create more terrorists. The Middle East is a power vacuum of cockroaches; if you destroy one group, another will scurry in to take its place. Given the US and Soviet track records, it will likely be the group that was previously fighting the first group, they were given weapons to fight them with, turning around and using those weapons on us. We armed al Qaeda to fight the Soviets, and then they turned against us. We armed the Iraqis to fight al Qaeda, and they organize ISIS and turn against us. Now we're arming the Kurds to fight ISIS, and expecting they won't form their own terrorist group and turn against us once ISIS is gone. Anyone can see how insane that is. But it's done because it's all in the name of fighting SOMETHING. Have to fight something. Can't just play defense. Defense doesn't win the game!

Well, that's an optimistic view, anyway. More probably, it's because the people in government make money off of war. They all have their fingers in the giant cookie jar that is the military-industrial complex, and get sweet kickbacks when those multi-million-dollar bombs have to start being made en masse. How many kids could be put through college, or how many preventable diseases could be cured with those millions of dollars? We'll never know. What we do know, is that countries that manage to NOT be at war all the fucking time have much better schools and healthcare and roads and just about everything than the USA. We still have the biggest STICK, but we're starving our economy and not investing in the people. PRIORITIES!

>Why must you break down like this instead of being civil about the issue?

Why don't you read the post of the guy above you, and repeat that bit about "civility". That's the average gun nut frothing at the mouth in his childish babbling. That's the people you're defending.

Meanwhile, you attacked me personally EIGHT times in your post.

>insecure about your argument

>attempting to make your opponents look bad

>there's a term for your ... paranoia

>You sound like a petulant teenager

>you're tossing it out to muddy the discussion

>You're not convincing anybody there champ

>it makes you come off as feeble minded

>Why must you break down

So while you're at it, repeat that bit about ad hominem, except to yourself this time.


 No.32949

>>32946

>If someone gets close enough to grab your precious guns, and has devices to actually kill you instead of just start a fight (like they have a knife) you'll be dead before you can get to your gun.

I'm fairly aware of what's going on around me in the first place, and I know how to defend myself, thanks.

> I would hope you realize that even a powerful offensive weapon provides zero defense, but I doubt it.

A lot of the "defense" comes from not being a dumb fuck like you in the first place. The gun's just to make goddamn sure I have superiority.

>Having the power of God, to take lives when and where you wish, tends to make people ffools because they think it also makes them omniscient and invulnerable.

You have a funny idea of what makes a god, faggot. I can take care of myself. I wouldn't call myself invulnerable - no one is - but I do alright for myself.

>And no, I'm not religious; it's just a metaphor.

I don't care. You gungrabbers are pretty much all cut from the same cloth - the state is your religion.

>If your attacker is closer than 15 feet, he can grab onto you before you can unholster and raise your weapon, and if he's stronger then you're fucked. All your whining bravado won't help then.

Good thing the gun isn't the only "dangerous" thing about me then. I know your ilk - if you successfully grabbed all the guns like you wish you could (conveniently failing to grab all the illegally obtained ones, or the unregistered ones) you'd come for knives next, and then bludgeons like kubatons and so on, and then mace and tazers. You're the kind of person who swears up and down that you'd never commit a crime, yet the thing that makes you shit your pants hardest is a legal and well-trained CCW owner. You're probably also the kind of person who says "GUNS ARE FOR THE POWEECE AND MIWITARY" while simultaneously denigrating the police as racists who can't be trusted and the military as imperialist thugs. I've met your kind and kicked a few of your asses without the help of a gun. I really strongly recommend you never give me a good reason to draw on you.

>Why don't you read the post of the guy above you, and repeat that bit about "civility". That's the average gun nut frothing at the mouth in his childish babbling. That's the people you're defending.

"Be civil as I try to disarm you and make you helpless!" cried the commie scumfuck. Die, you piece of gutter trash.


 No.32950

>>32931

If I can be trusted not to mix my household cleaners to cook meth, then I can be trusted not to, I dunno, go postal with my firearm.

It's frankly not up for debate, though. It's a right and your opinion doesn't factor into it. Learn to deal.


 No.32958

>>32949

Wow, aren't you just a beautiful ray of sunshine.

I've seen a lot of people like you before. They assume they're the only ones with a gun, and then start a fight they assume they can win because they're a BIG STRONG MAN. They think the gun gives them superiority, when often it only gives them equality, and then the other guy goes Han Solo on them. Oops.

Oh, did I forget to mention? The place I tend to meet guys like you is in the morgue. You see, it ain't the commie faggots you have to watch out for; it's the other ornery guys with a chip on their shoulder and a massive inferiority complex, just like you.

So you best be looking over your shoulder all the time, buddy. They're watching you.


 No.32980

>>32845

It's not the bill of "needs", it's the Bill of Rights.

Fact is, nobody "needs" much of anything but food, water, and shelter. Even then, shelter depends on the environment.

But you won't see me vying for tribal life, simply because we don't actually "need" any of our modern luxuries that make life so much more comfortable.

Paranoia is an unwarranted fear, not preparing for a possibility.

You don't call someone who wears their seatbelt "paranoid" that they're going to get in a car accident. You don't call someone who puts on a life vest when on a boat "paranoid".

You yourself admit these things can happen. People prepare for that possibility, as if you can do so, you always should. If you are wealthy enough to afford a personal doctor in case of injury, why wouldn't you? There's plenty of cases where that'd be very useful. A gun, meanwhile, is a much cheaper means of preparing for an unfortunate event.

I'd also add: Depending on where you are, that level's a lot higher than 'getting struck by lightning'. Not everyone is some limp-dick college student living safe in some campus apartments off of Mommy's money.

Some people do not have the option to live in a safe area. Some people have to live in low-down areas where crime is much more common.

Carrying around a swiss army knife is a great idea, yes. That lady would've been fine if she had a nice swiss army knife with a number of tools on it capable of getting the door open. Said swiss army knife is also great for a wide variety of situations and circumstances. I would sure as all fuck not call her paranoid if she carried a swiss army knife for circumstances like this one.

Would you?

Aircraft are outfitted with survival kits, in case of such a possibility. Are aircraft outfitters paranoid for having survival kits inside the aircraft just in case?

Do you think that airport security can be used to cure AIDS or cancer?

Besides, airport security isn't half about terrorism, as it is about stopping drug trafficking.

So what if people have a larger chance of dying a natural death? Does that mean it is a bad idea to take precautions in case of a bad roll of the dice?

You wear your seatbelt because you might get in an accident. You keep a first aid kit, in case you get hurt. You get regular checkups, in case something is wrong. You have fire exits, in case the place burns down. This is not paranoia. This is simple preparation for the worst. Absolutely nothing wrong with that.


 No.32982

>>32880

Hey, bro, do me a favour, quote less. I go a bit retarded with mine, I admit, but still. If your post is over half not your own, you're doing something wrong, formatting wise.

You're still completely right, though.


 No.32983

>>32914

No, being 'prepared' is not paranoia. Being afraid, yes. Being prepared, no.

The ex-soldier looking for exits and cover zones is just following old habits. Nobody calls him crazy for doing that shit, because ultimately, it changes nothing. He's just doing something he was trained to do, in case of a possibility. He's not going around jumping at shadows, he's simply making mental note of escapes and cover options.

I do indeed carry a swiss army knife and a lighter with me.

They're very, very handy.

Nobody calls me crazy for it.


 No.32987

>>32931

Nice argument, faggot.

>>32946

The best defense is a good offense, mate. If I can kill the guy with a knife before he does serious damage to me, or otherwise before he kills me, that's a pretty damn big win. Better than most other options.

A gun doesn't give you "The power of god to take lives when and where you wish", mate.

Incidentally, there's a bit of police training I learned a while back for exactly your situation:

Fall back. Just simply fall to the ground. Instantly adds about five to six feet, and makes you much harder to hit with a short weapon like a knife. You can also kick at the guy like that, keep them from getting a good stab on anything vital, while you draw your firearm.

Pretty simple.

Also: Your fucked in such a situation with or without a gun, so why do you give a fuck if someone wants a gun, that raises their odds at least in such a circumstance?

A gun's not that expensive, mate. It's also a pretty damn good investment, as guns tend to either completely hold their value, or go up in price.

Besides, "likely never happen" depends on the individual. People living in the ghetto? It's much likelier than you, in your white suburban middle-class home paid for by your investor parents.

Incidentally, investing into the stockmarket without experience is a great way to lose a fuckton of money.

What, so terrorism and crime aren't real? The government shouldn't do anything about terrorism and crime because there's other issues out there?

Fuck off with that shit, mate.

And, no, I am not okay with the government spending "trillions on fighting terrorism [read: legitimate governments and destabilizing regions].

As the other anon said, you're just dragging this shit in to cloud the issue. You go off the assumption that if people believe in guns rights, self defense, and simple preparation, they must be totally fine with bombing Asad.

Same deal for the next two paragraphs. You assume anyone disagrees with that shit. You assume it's relevant to the conversation at hand.

It ain't, mate.


 No.32988

>>32958

Depending on the circumstance, the gun does give superiority. A knife-wielding attacker is inherently at a disadvantage to you. Basically, anyone who doesn't have a gun is at a disadvantage.

Do you think you have a better chance dealing with someone armed with a firearm, without a firearm?

Equal force is not an argument for getting rid of the force equalizer.


 No.32993

>>32815

pol is neither, take your political garbage elsewhere.


 No.32994

>>32993

This is a /k/ thread at this point.


 No.33001

>>32958

>Wow, aren't you just a beautiful ray of sunshine.

I'm actually quite cheery and genial when people aren't arguing for my disarmament simply because they think guns are icky.

>I've seen a lot of people like you before. They assume they're the only ones with a gun, and then start a fight they assume they can win because they're a BIG STRONG MAN. They think the gun gives them superiority, when often it only gives them equality, and then the other guy goes Han Solo on them. Oops.

I don't start fights. I don't LIKE fights. But by golly I'll fucking END fights. I am not scared of other gun owners, because by and large they aren't fucking retards - as the figures demonstrate.

>Oh, did I forget to mention? The place I tend to meet guys like you is in the morgue. You see, it ain't the commie faggots you have to watch out for; it's the other ornery guys with a chip on their shoulder and a massive inferiority complex, just like you.

lel. Kill yourself, red.

>So you best be looking over your shoulder all the time, buddy. They're watching you.

yaaaaaaaaawn. Go gargle buckshot.


 No.33021

>>33001

are you 10


 No.33025

>>33001

>I don't start fights. I don't LIKE fights.

You're lying. Above, you already said you've beaten up several people "without the help of a gun", and from context you were so proud of it that you were practically jerking off while saying it. Or else you were lying there, which I find much more likely. Why?

Because literally everything you've ever said has been the Navy Seal copypasta. Yelling and screaming and ranting and raving and insulting me and threatening me with every single line, as if you're this big macho man and you're going to reach through the computer screen and punch me. You're a keyboard warrior. You're an internet tough guy. You're that short mean kid who finished last in school, who has never accomplished anything in his life and never will. You're a paranoid fool with an inferiority complex the size of a skyscraper, and you're so afraid of everything that you scream and insult at whatever you even THINK is challenging you. You're so weak and pathetic and afraid that you need to carry around a weapon of war all the time to feel secure. You probably even take it with you into the shower, in case anyone breaks in and tries to mug you while you're washing the shit out of your hair from your shit job. You're a redneck loser with a room-temperature IQ and no love but what little the State allows you to have, which you cling to like a starving child clings to garbage scraps. If it were in your precious Bill of Rights to own MLP memorabilia, you'd be collecting ponies by the thousands. I bet you think breeding like the cockroach you are, and getting some criminally ugly chick to shit out another one of you, is the greatest success in life. You've never created anything; you lack both the intelligence or the imagination or the patience. Mankind has walked on the moon and build towers that rise through the clouds, yet you think successfully fucking is an accomplishment. That's how low and worthless you are.

It's hard to believe you're actually capable of being cheery when you're so thin-skinned and such a screechy insufferable bastard. You're that asshole uncle that nobody wants to invite to Thanksgiving because he always gets drunk and starts screaming about "THOSE GODDAMNED COMMIES TRYING TO TAKE MUH GUNS!" over dessert, but they do anyway because family is important, or some such shit.


 No.33040

>>32946

I'm back champ.

>I'm not sure how you missed my saying several times about "getting priorities straight", but I'll say it again. Wasting time, money, and effort preparing for something that will likely never happen is foolish when there are better uses for those resources. Put the time and effort you took to learn how to shoot a gun, and you could learn a new career skill. Put the money spent on guns into an investment, and you can make more money.

I have enough money to do both, and whether or not I do something with my money is absolutely none of your business.

>Terrorism, and crime, and all those sorts of issues are just another method the government uses to distract people. It's like handing a child a stuffed toy while they are given a hypodermic injection. So long as you think you're protecting yourselves from the evil boogymen of the world, fighting the good fight, you're distracted as the government bleeds its citizens dry with taxes, and fucks with their basic rights, to make themselves richer and more powerful. The issue with priorities is that you're okay with the government spending trillions on fighting terrorism, instead of improving the lives of its citizens directly.

No, I am not okay with the government wasting money and limiting basic rights and never said I was, you're putting words into my mouth. Also, it's funny to me how you're going on about hampering of basic rights while simultaneously trying to advocate restricting the ability for others to defend themselves, which is about as basic as you can get when it comes to rights.

>As I told the other guy, offense is not defense. The existing defenses to keep terrorists out of the country, to police them so they are caught before they can strike, are sufficient to protect us. Not perfect, but sufficient.

No, they are not sufficient considering they still pull off several attacks a year. Maybe not quite as bad as Europe, but it's clearly not sufficient if people are still dying.

And offense is defense. How do you expect to defend yourself if you don't take the offensive after being attacked? Virtue signal at your opponent?

>All fighting the terrorists does is waste money and create more terrorists. The Middle East is a power vacuum of cockroaches; if you destroy one group, another will scurry in to take its place. Given the US and Soviet track records, it will likely be the group that was previously fighting the first group, they were given weapons to fight them with, turning around and using those weapons on us. We armed al Qaeda to fight the Soviets, and then they turned against us. We armed the Iraqis to fight al Qaeda, and they organize ISIS and turn against us. Now we're arming the Kurds to fight ISIS, and expecting they won't form their own terrorist group and turn against us once ISIS is gone. Anyone can see how insane that is. But it's done because it's all in the name of fighting SOMETHING. Have to fight something. Can't just play defense. Defense doesn't win the game!

And that's all governmental fuck fuck games that have nothing to do with the citizens' right to bear arms. I don't advocate for US meddling in foreign lands at all, so we agree on that at least.

>Well, that's an optimistic view, anyway. More probably, it's because the people in government make money off of war. They all have their fingers in the giant cookie jar that is the military-industrial complex, and get sweet kickbacks when those multi-million-dollar bombs have to start being made en masse. How many kids could be put through college, or how many preventable diseases could be cured with those millions of dollars? We'll never know. What we do know, is that countries that manage to NOT be at war all the fucking time have much better schools and healthcare and roads and just about everything than the USA. We still have the biggest STICK, but we're starving our economy and not investing in the people. PRIORITIES!

Yeah, and what does that have to do with me being able to buy a gun?

>>Why must you break down like this instead of being civil about the issue?

>Why don't you read the post of the guy above you, and repeat that bit about "civility". That's the average gun nut frothing at the mouth in his childish babbling. That's the people you're defending.

1. this is an imageboard, people are hostile, get over it

2. you're ignoring your own blatant hostility and baseless assumptions you keep throwing around


 No.33041

>>33040

cont.

>Meanwhile, you attacked me personally EIGHT times in your post.

>>insecure about your argument

If you were secure about your argument you wouldn't feel the need to ridicule your opponent in an attempt to cow them.

>>attempting to make your opponents look bad

That's not an insult, it's an observable fact that you're attacking the opponent and not the argument.

>>there's a term for your ... paranoia

What would you call being so afraid of guns that you seek to ban them outright? Bravery?

>>You sound like a petulant teenager

You do, sorry.

>>you're tossing it out to muddy the discussion

Not even an attack, half of that shit had nothing to do with the discussion.

>>You're not convincing anybody there champ

Also not an attack.

>>it makes you come off as feeble minded

Your words "It's a virtual guarantee that, as an American, you'll die prematurely as a result of a shitty diet. Heart disease, stroke, diabetes, or COPD/cancer from smoking if you do that, or cirrhosis/kidney-failure if you drink too much. You're not going to get killed by a "bad guy" that you could have bravely fought off with your big boy gun. No. You're going to die like a disgusting sack of meat in a hospital bed, a victim of your own lifestyle. Oh, you'll prepare for the things that will never happen, but won't do a damn thing about that deadly beer-belly. Can't get your priorities straight." followed up by "It's not ad hominem if it's more than likely true. It's mean-spirited, crass, and extremely black, but it's also completely true." when I called you out. Sounds pretty feeble to me.

>>Why must you break down

Not an attack, you broke down and started shitflinging.

>So while you're at it, repeat that bit about ad hominem, except to yourself this time.

I think I'm being pretty civil so far.

I could have called you all sorts of names and made loads of baseless assumptions about your appearance, health, sexuality, and eating habits, but I didn't, because that doesn't have anything to do with gun ownership.


 No.33042

>>32946

>Meanwhile, you attacked me personally EIGHT times in your post.

>insecure about your argument

>attempting to make your opponents look bad

>there's a term for your ... paranoia

>You sound like a petulant teenager

>you're tossing it out to muddy the discussion

>You're not convincing anybody there champ

>it makes you come off as feeble minded

>Why must you break down

I count only two "personal attacks".

And to use your own words...

>It's not ad hominem if it's more than likely true.

So now, there's a whopping ZERO personal attacks in that post. How cool is that?

>>33025

The irony of this whole post is hilarious. Cinema-grade projection, right there.

And see? This is why people carry a piece. If they meet someone like you, prancing all high and mighty on your "progressive do-gooder" high horse looking "respectable", who knows what little bit of innocent dialogue that doesn't fit your world view will make you suddenly snap into a fit of rage and possibly physically assault them. A double tap is their only option of escaping unharmed.


 No.33049

>>32845

>that doesn't mean you're going to bring a doctor around by leash all the time, just to prepare for the tiny possibility that you might be injured and need immediate medical care.

No, but I bring a cell phone around so I can call for one, if I or someone else needs. Does having ambulance services in a functional society means that society is paranoid?

>b-but you can call for the police, too!

Yes, but why would someone have to wait for them to intervene if one can stop the criminal themselves?

If someone collapsed in front of a doctor's house, would you prevent the doctor from helping him just because the "ambulance is on the way"?

Ordinary citizens train in performing CPR, just so they can provide first aid to someone in need, if they ever find themselves in such a situation. Are they paranoid? Would you stop them?

Many public places are equipped with AEDs, ready to be used by anyone if someone needs defibrillation. Is that paranoid? Would you prevent bystanders from using them just because you already called 911?

Is having fire extinguishers paranoia? Would you remove fire extinguishers because you can just call the fire department to deal with it?

No?

Then you have no argument against my right to keep and bear arms.


 No.33051

>>33025

>You're lying.

You're a slanderous faggot.

>Above, you already said you've beaten up several people "without the help of a gun", and from context you were so proud of it that you were practically jerking off while saying it.

Oh, right, I forgot, you think you're a mindreader. I was defending myself every time - it's always funny to see the look in one of you punks' eyes when they realize they've bitten off more than they can chew. That said, I'm not particularly proud of any of it, but I AM proud of the fact that I can hold my own against aggressors.

>Because literally everything you've ever said has been the Navy Seal copypasta.

Lol ok

>Yelling and screaming and ranting and raving and insulting me and threatening me with every single line, as if you're this big macho man and you're going to reach through the computer screen and punch me.

I explicitly stated that I don't start physical fights over words, and that I don't start fights in GENERAL. I wouldn't call myself a "macho man", because I love me some dick, but if you start shit with me I'll give you a lot more trouble than you bargained for. I'm confident enough in myself that I don't need to pick a fight in order to prove I can end it.

>You're a keyboard warrior. You're an internet tough guy. You're that short mean kid who finished last in school, who has never accomplished anything in his life and never will. You're a paranoid fool with an inferiority complex the size of a skyscraper, and you're so afraid of everything that you scream and insult at whatever you even THINK is challenging you.

I'll take "Projection" for 500 Alex.

>You're so weak and pathetic and afraid that you need to carry around a weapon of war all the time to feel secure.

Top lel. Sure is typical shaming tactics in here. Yes, that will get me to give up my right to carry. Sure thing, chump.

>You probably even take it with you into the shower, in case anyone breaks in and tries to mug you while you're washing the shit out of your hair from your shit job.

Oh my god you're PRECIOUS.

> You're a redneck loser with a room-temperature IQ and no love but what little the State allows you to have, which you cling to like a starving child clings to garbage scraps.

Know how I know you're a dumb fuckin' commie?

> If it were in your precious Bill of Rights to own MLP memorabilia, you'd be collecting ponies by the thousands.

Keep going, you've nearly achieved peak ivory-tower leftist. Don't let the fact that you're horrifically wrong about nearly everything stop you now!

> I bet you think breeding like the cockroach you are, and getting some criminally ugly chick to shit out another one of you, is the greatest success in life.

I'm a bisexual who prefers guys and never wants kids and what is this

>You've never created anything; you lack both the intelligence or the imagination or the patience.

Pfft. 'Kay. I did a lot of creative shit when I was in various youth organizations, and I've done plenty of creative writing in college, but keep talking out of your ass there, chummer.

>Mankind has walked on the moon and build towers that rise through the clouds, yet you think successfully fucking is an accomplishment. That's how low and worthless you are.

You are so dumb and so prone to generalization and assumptions that it's little wonder you're a commie

>It's hard to believe you're actually capable of being cheery when you're so thin-skinned and such a screechy insufferable bastard.

Try not being a mendacious, shrill commie fucktard. The funny thing is, I've actually been able to more or less get along with lots of different people from nearly all political walks, so it's really kind of looking like you're the problem here, not me.

Go back to /leftypol/, you faggot.

>>33021

>are you 10

I can RP as a kid if that's what gets your rocks off, sugar.


 No.33052

>>33025

>make 5~ posts carefully debunking and otherwise shattering nogunner's arguments

>He ignores them, in favour of going for a pissing match with some other anon

O-okay...

>>33040

>>33041

See >>32982

Christ, you're worse than ND


 No.33055

>>33052

>make 5~ posts carefully debunking and otherwise shattering nogunner's arguments

>He ignores them, in favour of going for a pissing match with some other anon

>O-okay...

Call it a victory, anon. He knows he hasn't got shit, so he's going after what he thinks is low-hanging fruit. He isn't here for intelligent debate, he's here to try and shame and browbeat people who disagree with him because that's what these types do. They're intellectually bankrupt and exist in a state of pure feels-over-reals.


 No.33081

File: 1777aaf604432ca⋯.jpg (500.51 KB, 960x1280, 3:4, virgin_with_rage.jpg)

I'm pretty sure that given the rising political tensions in the pampered West that a brawl over politics is going to break out a furry convention.

But it's furries, so nobody will likely be shot. Instead a fatass and a skinnyfat faggot are going to get into a shoving match until a rent-a-cop intimidates both into standing down. Then some e-zine will blow it up into the Thrilla in Manilla and every autistic homebody will write a 3,000 word essay about it for their FA journal.


 No.33795

>>23803

>Is this what happens when horseshoe theory is memed into reality?

>polite sage

>>23803

Honestly, what ideology *hasn't* killed millions at this point?


 No.33815

>>24022

Foxler of furry fandom is my hero. Don't be hatering on him. Why insult him like this? Stop give him hard time.


 No.33896

Isn't openly threatening and ridiculing someone for their nazi apparel fetish kink shaming, something furries fucking despise?


 No.33914

>>33081

I can see it now.

>*sniff* It's beautiful


 No.34056

File: 935ac24fdc24739⋯.png (164.48 KB, 1269x997, 1269:997, 81acd7e1e81064e55695e9b150….png)

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Howdy!


 No.34057

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 No.34058

File: 808a4ba3ab40d70⋯.jpg (131.32 KB, 500x735, 100:147, war_poster_ussr_by_dobb.jpg)

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 No.34059

File: 75a4e9a9e5be95a⋯.jpg (308.56 KB, 649x989, 649:989, ad1742b345997fc93a6a2a5427….jpg)

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 No.34060

File: 45b785aaaaedea9⋯.jpg (97.4 KB, 777x583, 777:583, 8d36d42e02416ca3afcd396b39….jpg)

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File: 1c3911e2c7f498a⋯.jpg (228.35 KB, 756x559, 756:559, back_to_the_front_by_artch….jpg)

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File: b3fa0e70a506c19⋯.png (581.45 KB, 1024x594, 512:297, stalingrad_by_deadrussians….png)


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File: 66b2d9ebeb61445⋯.png (78.34 KB, 1440x900, 8:5, 5ebb02aec5f3f43e12c0c50579….png)

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 No.34065

File: fa518c8f1568ceb⋯.jpg (46.82 KB, 487x675, 487:675, be092699d4dced75cd83b7a6aa….jpg)

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 No.34067

File: 88b76b27e9797a8⋯.png (442.7 KB, 900x514, 450:257, rush_for_berlin_by_osiolek.png)

File: d2798284b68ce06⋯.jpg (282.28 KB, 1024x806, 512:403, the_fall_of_berlin_by_capr….jpg)

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 No.34069

File: 6845d7640d782a1⋯.jpg (130.38 KB, 758x1055, 758:1055, for_the_glory_by_wolfjedis….jpg)

File: d57e5bd53d3d22d⋯.jpg (229.25 KB, 789x565, 789:565, fox_samuel_by_wolfjedisamu….jpg)

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 No.34072

>>34069

Why is it that, while commiefurs are just plain autistic, somehow, nazifurs are functionally autistic?

This might be true of both commies and nazis in general, to be honest. Both autistic as all hell, but the commies are always the cringier lot.




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