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File: 1cecafb7f039451⋯.png (704.04 KB, 1054x1080, 527:540, commissions.png)


Show us what you bought so we can laugh at you, or ask us who to order commissions from so you can show us later.


Use the catalog >>13191


Oh wait, didn't realize it was at bumplimit


File: 537f5fd2f254639⋯.jpg (155.35 KB, 1280x965, 256:193, 9.jpg)

I'm still looking for artists who can draw (((Feral Pokemon x Human))) art.

Candyfoxy comes to mind but it's pretty expensive, especially if there are three characters in a shot. (Plus I'm not sure if they even draw humans or if it's ferals and furries only.)



>(((Feral Pokemon x Human)))

>((( )))

The fuck is this shit?



Not sure if their style is your thing but I know of this person who charges $35 at most for that.




new (((feature))) from CodeMonkey


<can code



A /pol/ meme that CM added to the markup. The implementation is awful, but that's to be expected of Chodemonkey.

The only thing it's good for is

(((super saiyan blue texting)))



Thank you!

They're good. They do that trainer-(name) style that's popular on Tumblr. Affordable but the art is kinda... Tumblr-y for my tastes. Still definitely gonna check them out if I can't find anyone else by the end of the month.

Anyone else have suggestions?



Same anon as >>33899 here. There's also this person I found. Prices start at $40, $50 for 2 characters.




(((How about)))

<We use these new features

>To kick this autism party into an autism riot.


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That's great. Both this guy and the other one draw with such expressive faces. I love it.


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>mfw people easily request the nastiest fetish shit for free and I can't even find a decent artist to PAY to do a mild Nazi related piece

I'm not even a /pol/tard, I just find the uniform really attractive.



Check the draw threads, and not just here but on other popular boards. Just say you're looking to commission someone and you'll either get 8ch artists that are obviously willing to draw that, or you'll get people that have commissioned from 8ch artists in the past.



You have to be tricky about it. First of all, you have to find an artist that doesn't have a distinctive style and isn't well-known. Nobody's going to draw something that will socially damage them if it can easily be connected back to them.

Secondly, ask them to draw the uniform but without any of the real-life insignia. They might be willing to draw a nazi uniform if it doesn't actually have swastikas or the SS symbols on it.


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I know your pain, it enrages me like you can't even imagine, I'm still getting discriminated about it, I have an OC which happens to be really into domination, so I decided to give them a nazi uniform to better reflect their role (big mistake, don't do it, ever, choose something else, anything), which it's totally unrelated to my real life ideologies, which happens to be the exact opposite of nazism.

However, these shithead artists take it personally and as revenge tend to fuck up, go lazy or sloppy on my commissions on purpose after getting my money, if I compare their other commissions, the quality is always much better than mine, I bet they feel like the """"good guys"""" because they """"taught me a lesson"""", that I deserve it because I'm the """"nazi"""", this double standard thinking (pretending to be tolerant but actually acting exactly like a nazi) should stop, it's totally illogical and stupid if they don't get it that they're actually the bad guys if they act like that, I always acted civilized and polite, paying them the paypal fees which I'm not even obliged to, never be obnoxious or put them in a hurry, giving as much artistic freedom as possible, etc.



>big mistake, don't do it, ever, choose something else, anything

So why don't you change the uniform now??



Just find similar Boss clothes that are commercially available



Unfortunately it's already on the ref sheet and many other commissions, I realized late that artists were passive aggressive for that reason.



So you're contractually obligated to continue using every trait of this character as-is, even if it causes you difficulty? Just get a new ref sheet and trash those old commissions.


>Want to get a joint commission with some fellow furfags

>Every one I talk to is either a meme-slut, stupid person to even talk to, or broke bitch that jumps on your offer despite being a broke bitch

>They accept offers but fail to even come up with a simple idea because YCH is so prevalent now nobody can think about even simple poses anymore and refuse any idea you throw at them

>You say you'll pay half but they whine and complain about paying their half and just want you to pay for the whole thing

>Decide "Fuck these people, they're retarded" start commissioning solo characters/ref sheets of character concepts

>Find artists who are literal nobodies and far better than anyone whose popular on FA, get cheap prices and become friends because they don't subscribe to the backstabbing that is "Popufur"

>Get over 1k watches without ever actually trying like most attention whores on the site.

>Never have to ass-kiss to anyone

>Never have to commission r34 for attention

>Gain more watchers by making journals calling out the shit going on in the fandom and generally shit on people

Shits fucking cash


Where's that greedy artist prick who shits up all these threads with "artists MUST charge high rates or it devalues their time!" because he hates is competition charging less?


>artist has good prices

>artist is of decent quality

>"I retain ownership of the finished piece"

Oh so you don't really want my money and you cheat your customers by giving them nothing despite paying you for it.


Offering a free sketch commission, chose a number between 1 and 10, first person to guess what I chose or closest to it if nobody guesses right gets his free black and white commission.

Try and be as precises with your request as possible, including reference for pose.



Theres actually no way they can enforce the "I retain ownership of the finished piece" because you've paid for a product they had to deliver. It's an even stronger case if they used copyrighted characters. I've had to go against two artists that tried this and they couldn't do shit.


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The number is 5.

requesting my character, Lamata the fennec fox, naked, on all fours, being fucked in the mouth by N8, the board mascot. Also keep in mind N8 is a cub so there should be some degree of size difference. Also please be sure the Egyptian eye markings are correct, and include the swastika armband. Thanks in advance!


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I'll bite: 7

A dramatic pose with a standard looking rapier.


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I choose 6, I request my OC (she's a fox), masturbating in a public bench, enjoying the risk of getting caught.


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File: ae131b7046f9388⋯.png (2.59 MB, 2480x3507, 2480:3507, 1954370_GeeCupcake_cycyfac….png)


Number 3 as in free! Requesting ass worship of this tiny kobold. x3


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15, 4, 11, 8

Herm Gryph


The number is.. 8

Herm gryph, cumming all over the floor, butt held high.


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draw me like one of your french girls


File: 63756aa186a9839⋯.png (714.5 KB, 914x1200, 457:600, 1497749764.supki_supki__sm….png)

By Spazzykoneko. She's not around for commissions often but when she is, she does damn good work.


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File: f2b50943dedb6cc⋯.jpg (369.5 KB, 1100x840, 55:42, pose.jpg)


#2?? just want faye spaniel in a french maid uniform


File: 48c2a3b9d41ac86⋯.png (269.04 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 600px-260Swampert-Mega.png)


4 I guess?

Draw this beefy fuck drooling and grinding his big ol dicks on the ground



Seconding this and guessing 9.



It was number 8 guys, the chinese lucky number, will get on it right now.


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Dope, thanks fam.

Have some more refs/etc if you want 'em.



I honestly wonder if a furry porn artist would have a chance in court trying to sue a commission buyer. That drawing of dogfucking or some clearly underage kid taking a dick probably isn't going to win the judge over, and without anything on file via the trademark or copyright offices, well... that whole "copyrighted upon creation" isn't proven by magic and telepathy, it needs something on paper. And if it does have a character owned by a major company? I don't think you can even fully own such a drawing.

It's just a shitbag move by artists who think they should get money and creative rights both.


File: ee4844771e260e1⋯.jpg (438.88 KB, 4134x3445, 6:5, fur req.jpg)



Here you go, sorry about the lower legs, couldn't find good reference and I made them more human :/

Hope you like it.


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>"I retain ownership of the finished piece"

I don't understand this mentality anyway. I've been considering eventually taking commissions, and if I did, the only thing I'd be interested in controlling about a commissioned piece of artwork is maintaining my right to keep the piece on my gallery as a portfolio item. (And even then I'd be willing to waive that right for an additional fee, for people who really really want their commissioned art to remain private) As long as I can do that, I wouldn't give a shit what the customer chooses to do with it.


yeah, it's absurd, because afaik under (US) copyright law a commissioned piece of artwork results in the artist and commissioner jointly holding copyright on it, meaning neither party can stop the other from doing what they want with it. (Not sure what happens if one of them wants to sell the copyright to a third party or whatever, though)



>a commissioned piece of artwork results in the artist and commissioner jointly holding copyright on it

there was a massive issue on Sofurry over this, a commission buyer added some text to a drawing so it could be used as a ref for other artists, and the artist flipped their shit about it. It got bad enough that SF staff consulted a US attorney specialized in copyright/trademark and got that exact answer. Several artists ragequit the site because they didn't like the law not coddling their "it's MY property" selfishness.

Though a contractual agreement prior to work beginning can overrule that but it must be agreed on properly, artists can't simply claim it after the fact. This is why you should avoid artists that state up-front they're keeping ownership.

Even though the buyer should get the artwork 100%, this shit needs to be reworded and worked into "work for hire" with no exceptions. The work only exists because the artist was hired to draw it. This shit even cases trouble over physical pieces of art, apparently if you commission a painting or a statue, it might be technically illegal to trade or destroy it because the artist retains part ownership. This has caused issues with artwork done on walls when a business owner wants to paint over it.


>Several artists ragequit the site because they didn't like the law not coddling their "it's MY property" selfishness.

For what purpose? It's not like the law won't follow them anywhere else.



most artists are only in it because they were born with their heads lodged deep in their assholes and only care about the praise they get, this is why they cause so much drama



Just like, an animals leg. Gryphons are half feline, so that would have worked. But thanks bud!


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Just received this commission from Toumitu.

Am really impressed by their work, /k/ furries might like this one.



>meme gun

>generic furry femboy 2,400,000

>flat face

It would honestly be more interesting if you commissioned a picture of the cat shoving the AA-12 up his ass.

How much did you pay for that?



The gun is terrible.

The boots are terrible.

The character is uninteresting.

I hope you didn't spend a fortune on that.



>meme gun

Meh, I wanted an (American)weapon that average US civilians can't get legally, to fit with her theme of being a gun runner. The AA-12 happened to fit that bill.

>generic furry femboy 2,400,000

She's not a femboy, though cats are pretty common, not much I can do about that.

>flat face

Kemono style usually look like that.

The commission was $55.




boots look like the laces are literal stickers


I've got some commissions I'm still waiting on but I'm worried it's been a few weeks since any update or contact. I just don't want to seem pushy.


>buying commissions when the internet is packed full of porn and other existing art

You can find what you need on Imagefap, Xhamster or even google image search, why waste money to create a new thing when what you want already exists? If furries need money, they can fill out a job application.




Looks like you got pretty jewed there imo, sorry for your loss



Absolute shit. I cannot believe you flushed that money down the toilet. And then you show it off like it is something to be proud of. You have no artistic, fashion, or economical sense.



>I wanted an (American)weapon that average US civilians can't get legally,

The AA-12 is street-legal as long as it's not fully-automatic.


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Sorry that you're having a bad day anon, I hope you'll feel better soon.


just looking through some of the recent replies on this thread, it's nothing but elitists who think you should spend your money "their way"- why the fuck would anyone ever post their commissions here? just to be berated by shitty anons?



I mean when you're paying less than 10-15~ or so on it its fine, just don't eat shitty junkfood for a day or two. But 50-100's of dollars? Fuck off m8

(I posted my orange birb up there anyway, along with the prices of each pic.)


File: 3201abf025f241b⋯.png (5.53 MB, 2500x2000, 5:4, benis.png)


Debate me, Atheists.



>dragon with a canine penis



We're just sharing our opinions on art we think is overpriced, a simple sketch shouldn't be worth 50 or something where the lines or coloring is uneven. Art has become so overpriced in the fandom and that's because of the fags carelessly giving any amount of money to artists and setting a trend for other smaller artists.

Cue the image of the guy with the sparkledog sona paying 1,500 dollars to get a simple blowjob ych


File: f5d6eb8531d1fa4⋯.jpeg (30.2 KB, 500x500, 1:1, GOD WILL PUNISH US.jpeg)



>canine dick on dragon

>charizard looks to be a balloon

There is no god otherwise he wouldn't have allowed this to happen


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I'll admit I have a bit of a knot-mania and gave one to Charizard even though it doesn't really fit.

I also have a thing for balloons.

Honestly, I'd order some balloon stuff if I knew any artists who'd be good at it.


Who drew this anyway? Why do artists insist on symbols or illegible signatures? It's fucking retarded.



People are saying that one pic is 'overpaying' when it's only 50 dollars, and the pic was actually (content opinion aside) pretty goddamn good. You do realize that IRL shit like that costs alot more, right? Illustrators don't come cheap.



$50 is basically the line between cheap and expensive when it comes to commissions.

In regards to furry commissions, $50 is definitely on the cheap end of things, but a lot of people (especially people who don't order commissions) will think it's a really high amount.


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I get commissions all the time from $10 all the way up to my recent $88 dollar illustration that i'm waiting for.

In my honest opinion I don't find it worth $55 i'd probably pay $35 for something like that. One man's trash is another man's treasure.



I'm not saying it's worth $50, either. It's passable for $50. When you pay less, you expect a lower quality, but you also expect a higher variance in quality. When someone usually does great art for $20 but fucks up in a commission from time to time, it's usually expected and acceptable (assuming it's not a complete FUBAR).



Is it? I figured ATF had decided it didn't look "sporting" enough and was therefore in the same legal category as rocket launchers and artillery pieces.



>Doesn't know shit about guns

>Tries to appease /k/ommandos with a meme gun that's perfectly legal

You can own a tacticooled out rifle no problem as long as its semi auto. Hell you can even own fully automatic rifles if it was manufactured before a certain date (93 I think).

It's expensive but it's perfectly legal.


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>Art has become so overpriced in the fandom



First, I'm not the guy who commissioned the picture. For my part I agree that he paid too much for it, it's not particularly well detailed, and the AA-12 is a meme gun that he probably saw in an anime or game at some point.

Second, the AA-12 is a shotgun, not a rifle. The NFA calls any gun in a larger caliber than .50 (which includes both 20 and 12 gauge) a "destructive device". The ATF can and usually does grant exemptions to shotguns for "sporting purposes" but technically does so at its own discretion, and anything too militaristic in appearance and/or marketing is often rejected (see: SPAS-12, various Striker variants, though no one really cares because those are vidya gaem meme shotguns anyway). Given that a semi-auto AA-12 would be a conversion of a shotgun that was straight up specifically designed for military use, I'd expect the seller to fight an uphill battle to be deemed "sporting".

And if your argument is on the technicality of "legal", yes, in the US you could hypothetically own just about any weapon with oodles of money and a lot of bureaucratic nonsense. Too few people are willing to do that to sustain a viable market for most NFA items with the possible exception of suppressors.



You were arguing that the gun is illegal and now you're backpedaling saying that there are "too few people to sustain a viable market for most NFA items"

If there are too few people to sustain the market why are there so many active listings of NFA weapons on gunbroker that people have bought for upwards of thousands of dollars?

Don't underestimate, taxes don't matter when you have a gun that's wonderful to shoot especially to someone that's well off which most gun owners somewhat are.


We need to create a master list of artists both popufur and non for ease of access. I'm in a commissioning mood atm.



>50$ is the baseline

Lel I wonder if furries would pay up if someone charged double that amount as his hourly rate. Assuming no one else was offering the same things for cheaper, that is.



some no doubt would- the rich ones, the welfare leeches, the ones stealing from parents/family. No sane person would, not unless they could A) afford it and B) got full copyright of the finished piece to make and sell prints if they wished.

If the artist wants to keep ownership for an hourly rate of $50, they can contract cancer.


Yeah, you really deserve almost triple of a factory worker for drawing penises. Worse than fags like Poopiepie who think "playing video games" is "content creation" and suck up money from ad revenue for doing literally nothing.



>50$ per hour

I said double that amount. 100$ per hour.

And I don't see why not if there's already someone in the fandom who already gets roughly that amount. If someone can do a much better job than him for the same price, well, you'd be getting a big discount, wouldn't you think?

>but it's too much

This is your fault, not the fault of the guy asking for his work to be adequately rewarded.


Artists that charge hourly are scamming cunts.

This shit cost me $30, and that's on a discount because I get art all the time from Supplesee.

Seriously, people should stop being stupid fucking twats with their money and actually get artists that are worth the money and time rather than get art because "le popufur xD"



Some of those popufurs have pretty distinct styles, though.

I wonder:

Are there any artists that specialize in being able to copy other artists' styles?

I know some artists will usually say something along the lines of "I can try to match any style you tell me to", but I've never seen any of them that are actually of a high quality.



>Are there any artists that specialize in being able to copy other artists' styles?

A lot of popufurs copy off of each other.

Tojo with Narse, Jasonafuckhimself with Wolfynaileveryfemboyasswithahorsecock...



I know that much. I wonder if there are any unpopufurs that I could go up to and say "Hey, could you draw this in a Candyfoxy style?"



shut the fuck up, Lulz.net faggot. Go back to your shithole. Not even /pol/ ruined your board, it was always shit.


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Artist is Ryoku7. Can't wait to have her shipped home. According to him she's much more vivid in print than the scan provides. Very nice guy to have met and commission.



>those joints


This might be a long short but are there any artists that draw good western-styled dragons that dabble in violence and gore. I'm looking to get an erotic dragon-slaying pic done.


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What the FUCK have you done to her?

There's stronk and then there's just a disgusting mess.



What the fuck are you rambling about you autist.





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It's clear whoever commissioned that picture didn't have any.


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Here's a list of artists I'm thinking of commissioning:


Lovely (Animator; Furaffinity Forums)









Are they any good?





May have been an alright price, but a tad bit high.


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Does anybody know of any artists who take rape commissions?

What about cub?

What about snuff?

What about excellent chibis feral and/or anthro?

What about feral non-Pokemon?

What about artists with a more simple art style?

(Any artist who fits one of the categories I want to hear about.)



Bumping this idea.

We need to create a list of artists with the prices of their fullbody commissions with all types of shading.


Asking for second opinions on the following:



http://nixotine.deviantart.com/gallery/: "Chibis are $20-$25 depending on character complexity and are shaded

Full bodies are $30-$35 depending on character complexity

And are shaded

Sketches are anywhere from $5-$15"



Immediately remove any of them that have a Tumblr. Then you'll be left with the good ones.



What about sarisweet.tumblr.com/image/143157193690


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Laugh at me fam


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Did I do gud guys?




Not my thing, but at least the art is nice.



I like it. Looks like he got hit with a frying pan though.


>order commission

>wait a week

>artist uploads a bunch of stuff, but not mine

>wait a week

>artist uploads the rest of the stuff on his queue, but not mine

>wait a week

>artist barely uploads anything, eventually uploads something that wasn't ordered from anyone on the queue

>see I have a note from the artist

>"hey i need a reference for this"

what the hell



What's the source thread on these comments?



I just recently started doing commissions.

If I send someone an invoice and they include a shipping address (because Paypal took away the option to say No Address Required), is it true they can demand a refund and there's nothing I can do about it, because there's no way for me to prove the product was 'shipped'?




give this a shot and see if it stops giving them the option to give you a shipping so it removes that potential. because yes, if you let them provide shipping and they dispute it they automatically win


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I know that plushies are a niche item but I figure I might as well ask:

I want to order a massive (30+ inches) plushie of an Arcanine.

Does anyone know any good plushie makers who might be able to handle such a tall order?

What kind of price would I be looking at? I'm willing to go up to $500.



>up to $500

kek you honestly believe you can get a CUSTOM MADE plushie that's 30+ INCHES for anything less than $500?

you're delusional mate

that being said, either etsy or FA will be your best bet


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massive (30+ inches) of Arcanine.


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Art Slave Streams

Has anyone here had experience with these before?

Is 5 hours with an artist you like worth $100?

I'm mostly concerned about artists kicking their feet or being slow to start. I get that you can't just go 1-2-poof and summon up the perfect pose for things, but does the time limit give them an opportunity to waste time and deliver less than I'd be expecting?

I've got a huge list of pictures I've been wanting to order and it just occurred to me that this might be the best way to get lots of them done, at least in a sketch form.



There are several things that you must weigh in order to make art slave streams worth it.

1. In exchange for paying triple digit funds, the artist demonstrates good time management and the final pieces actually cost less than the normal rates.

2. To justify if the rates are premium compared to normal prices. If it's an exclusive event and taking it puts you ahead of 4 months worth of other clients in queue.

3. Even if you value quantity over quality, even the artist's non colored inks and sketches are top notch to your expectations.


Are there any artists that will provide a sketch or something before asking for payment?

Three times in a row I've been burned by artists who will take my money, show me a sketch that looks nothing like what I asked for (even if I provided visual references), and then they'll give me some bullshit "You only get three revisions in this phase so I'm going to charge you another $10 if you keep complaining".

I just want to work with an artist who will treat me like a human being who works hard to pay for these commissions and will give me the same amount of effort in return instead of what amounts t stealing my money then kicking me onto the floor, saying "Well you already paid me so I don't need to do shit". I just want to make sure the fucking pose is right before I have my money stolen. That's all I want. It's all I need.



Did you get cheap prices though?



Look on Furaffinity Forums and state those conditions, but without the guilt tripping "I work hard for my money" stuff.

Just say "Are there any artists who will do x thing but show me a sample sketch before requiring payment?"



if that's how you talk to artists you deserve to get burned tbh

grow up


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$30, If I recall correctly. Mutio from Blue Sub no. 6. by lilshark.


Is it a good idea to do a bunch of requests to get followers and then start doing commissions? For the record I'm not desperate for money



Being paid for TIME rather than for RESULTS is the biggest mistake of all of capitalism. It punishes those who are better and rewards those who are worse.



What? That literally makes no sense.

If you're a better artist you can charge more/hr. If you're a shitty artist, less and less people will start putting up with your bad quality over time



>If you're a shitty artist, less and less people will start putting up with your bad quality over time

You think that's how it actually works?


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I won an art slave auction.

How does this work? I've never done this before.



Firstly, who?

Secondly, have you previously observed how much progress the artist can do in an hour so that you can measure if he has the time to commit to X amount of commissions in the quality that you desire?

Thirdly, the more anal retentive you are about the pose/angle/background, the more the artist will spend time on it, and before you know it you only got one picture out of it. Thus, it's generally best to let the artist 'let loose' so long as the details of your characters are correct.

Fourth, be brief and direct about what you want in the commish. You can leave the backstory and what-have-you in the stream chats.


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I want to share art done for me by an artist I like, but I don't want that artist to get popular because I enjoy the low prices and fast queues.

What do I do?



It's highly unlikely that the artist will get popular just from you singlehandedly posting a few of their works on a few websites.



Who is it? I'm sure a few anons on a chinise image board aren't going to change how an artists does things over night.



Just post it, m8. It's like the other anons have said, a single picture won't skyrocket their popularity (unless it's amazingly drawn fan-art)



>defending assholes who can't respect their customers

Fuck off, Kayla-Na, go die of your multiple STDs or something



>because Paypal took away the option to say No Address Required

It's still there when you send money, I have no idea what you're talking about. Click the arrow by the address and select the option. Been that way for most of the year now. It was there this morning.

Oh as for Paypal... if an artist has a business account and demands gift payment, they're breaking the business account terms. They are not supposed to receive gift payments. If they demand you pay the fees too, that's also against Paypal's terms, report them.

If Paypal ever does require a tracking number in a claim, well you should have thought of this, print a copy, put it in a stiff envelope or mailing tube, send it to them.


>only hire artists that give me copyright of final pic

>keep it private, never upload it

Oh you want a free copy of something personal I had to pay for? Get fucked. Buy your own art. You don't buy a DVD only to show the whole neighborhood the film for free.


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>You don't buy a DVD only to show the whole neighborhood the film for free.

But that's exactly what cracking teams and piracy distributors do.


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>You don't buy a DVD only to show the whole neighborhood the film for free

Spotted the faggot


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Post your face when you run out of commission money.



I just like to share art I paid for with others. What's so wrong with that? I will not support an artist that refuses to give me the right to copy, modify, or distribute the piece I paid for.



Read the post he's quoting.



Damn your OC is really cute



You are a terrible human being


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That may be true but I'm also a selfish human being.



Hey, that's cool. You're the one who paid for the art. It's not like half the demographic of commissioners keep the art for themselves anyway :^)


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Damn, art slave streams are actually really fun.

I could get addicted to this.








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Not a bad haul.


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Been spending a lot of money on art lately.

I'm looking for not so expensive artists to draw my dumb female shootcat in not as extreme/non-lewd opics though




your oc a disgusting shit


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You're a disgusting shit you disgusting shit.


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Had something similar happening to a very good artist.

>Find russian artist. Great artstyle and decend prices (fullbody flat $30 and fullcolor with extra details + background for $40)

>Get two wonderful commissions

>People start complaining that he should increase the prices

<OMG I would pay $200 for your work.

<You're taking way too less, incrase the prices

>New prices are flat $100 and fullcolor for $150 + background extra

I have the feeling that these complaining fags are the ones that never commissioned anything and always "request" something.



Whitekitten is that you?



Can't be, she's not pregnant.


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How easy is it to do chargeback scams?

Can I just drop $50 into a fresh Paypal account then do the chargeback thing to every artist that sends me an invoice that lets me choose a shipping address?

I got a folder full of sketches from targeting people who explicitly state "payment after you approve the sketch" and a few colored images too, but it's a pain in the ass when I kinda like the sketch but can't pony up the ridiculous prices some of these people are asking for.



Enjoy losing your fifty bucks.



No I am not. I just wanted my explorer cat Dr. Deadzo



wow you're a dick



There's literally nothing wrong with scamming dumb people.



It's an investment. If I can get several returns on that $50 then it will have been worth it.


Sometimes I just need a rough sketch or something I can keep to myself, or a reference I can give to an artist I actually like. I can't draw the kinds of poses or scenarios that I want, and it's bullshit that artists would ask for $20 for a sketch that doesn't take longer than half an hour to produce. I'm just trying to work with the tools I've been given.



Nothing wrong with killing off bad people either right :^)



No? If you kill a criminal he can't commit crimes again.



So you support your own death for committing theft?



You cannot steal a drawing, when the artist sends it to you, you both have it, and it can be copied endlessly.



Theft extends to services too. Theft isn't just "hur hur has to be a physical object". I guess they don't teach that in backwater America.

You're paying for the service of them bringing your imaginary shit in to fruition. After the service is complete/half complete you fuck off. This is very similar to going to a restaurant, ordering something, eating half, and leaving - something which is also theft.

You even ADMIT it's theft above when you say "There's literally nothing wrong with scamming dumb people." Scamming implied theft.

So yeah. You support your own death. So go put a bullet in your brain.



There is no resource being lost other than time here, if I scammed a restaurant then I stole food out of them, in this way, the resource was born in an instant and thus is only valuable if I assign a value to it.

I don't value it at all, so I won't pay for it. You can't steal 0$ can you? So it is not theft. If the artist was good and his service was valuable I'd pay for it.


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>There is no resource being lost other than time here

So, one of the most valuable resources, and the one that is the most traded worldwide?

>I don't value it at all, so I won't pay for it

Oh so you're a pic related autist. Well newsflash - what you think doesn't effect or change what everyone else thinks of you. And in large society thinks you're a thief. You're just a petty thief using entry level psychological reasoning to try and justify theft.

>If the artist was good and his service was valuable I'd pay for it.

If the artist was bad and nonvaluable you subconsciously wouldn't have contact them in the first place.



>So, one of the most valuable resources, and the one that is the most traded worldwide?

If it's so valuable why are you wasting it here discussing with me? Am I thief for stealing your time too?

>And in large society thinks you're a thief.

You're a single autist in a furry board, you don't represent society.

>If the artist was bad and nonvaluable you subconsciously wouldn't have contact them in the first place.

I'd eat bad food if it was free. I get stuff from bad artists if it's free.



more like "other artists hated cheaper competition and sock puppeted to get them to jack up prices"

Trust me, their raised prices ain't selling.



>You're a single autist in a furry board, you don't represent society.

it's probably Kayla-Na, she things her idiotic opinions are fact because she says so. Ignore her.




>You're a single autist in a furry board, you don't represent society.

>Society as a whole must support theft despite essentially every government, social group, etc. saying "no stealerino"

IDK who you think you're trying to fool. Like, do you go outside and talk to normies? Do you understand the world you exist in? Or are you so far up your ass with ancap/ego philosophy that you think that if you got tried for theft, people would support you?


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Not him but go to hell. people like you are the reason people like us exist.


stay triggered, nigger


where the fuck did this come from? Did Milo take a shit in your cereal and start supporting FOSS this morning?


Autistic faggots like this (who also shit up these threads) are the reason why I charge upfront. Don't get burned m8s..


Yeah, yeah. Anon jews someone into getting something for free and brags only to have their whiteknights defend the,. We've been over this so can we move along now.



It's understandable anon. Most artists I buy are like that, but some are neat and toss me sketches before it's all finished once they see I've bought like... 30 pieces of art already lol.


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r8, h8, don't b8



Arcanine is cute, shame about the ugly ass human



nice. there's so few people on that skill level that are willing to do gore.


Can I use sketches from failed commissions as references for commissions from other artists down the line?

Worth mentioning is that some sketches I haven't paid for.

Also worth mentioning is that some of these sketches are so old I've forgotten who actually drew them in the first place, so there would be no way for me to credit them.



>failed commissions


Care to explain what that means? Was it not a comm you were satisfied with? If so, I feel your pain.



>*were not


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worst commission experience?

Mine keep boiling down to:

>little to no communication

>getting a sketch before final coloring is a like pulling teeth despite their own TOS saying they will

>have to open a fucking case with paypal just to get a god damned response from the artist despite having used their preferred method of contacting them, results in either a refund or 'Oh, sorry, I just lost your commission, here it is!'

on the inverse

>get something done by a chinese artist

>active communication even with the language barrier

>gives sketches for approval and progress reports when I didn't expect any

>quick turn around time

>exactly what I asked for

>throw more money at them as a tip for being so easy to work with and exceeding all my expectations




And those paypal cases are near the absolute time limit for when you can get a refund from paypal.



Commissions I wasn't satisfied with, or commissions that the artist had to cancel for whatever reason.

A lot of these sketches were done with nothing but a text description of poses, so being able to reuse the sketches they provided would be very helpful.



>worst commission experience?

I ordered a bandanna from some fat chick and i went through 7 fucking months of 0 communication

i got it 2 fucking years after i ordered it...



link for the chinaman? I'd pay good money for that sort of service. So fucking tired of being told "2 week turnaround" and beating down their inbox for updates 4 months later



link2004, technically taiwan, but y'know.


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I need a pose reference for a "bound and raped by tentacles" commission.

Show me what you got.



I'm going through a similar situation with Radiocomix. Have had zero communication through the contact us form and I've been waiting for several months now.



I've commisisoned Kizrae and Sarichow in the past, both were awesome. No I'm not posting the art, I paid extra for it to be private. But I recommend them both whole heartedly.



I hope your doubts don't stem from expecting the "new" artist to draw over whatever you give them.

Nobody who is worth of the title of artist would do that. Not even because of muh tracing. It's basically impossible for another artist's vision of your commission to match their own. They're simply going to come up with a new one and redo it from scratch.



Naw, it's something a bit more complicated.

I'm worried that I'll give an artist a sketch that I got from a different artist, possible with a big watermark or SAMPLE thing drawn over it, and then the artist will pull some drama shit like "Hey, who drew this? Do you have the rights for this? Did you properly pay for this?" etc.

I know artists get their panties in a bunch over stuff like that and it's a pain in my ass because I've heard stories of people being blocked and publicly shamed for trying to get an artist to draw based on a reference that another artist drew.

Asking the artists that drew the original sketch isn't an option for me because it's been so long I've honestly forgotten who drew it.



>I've heard stories of people being blocked and publicly shamed for trying to get an artist to draw based on a reference that another artist drew.

Those aren't artists, those are cunts waving a pencil around.



Any cheaper artists though?

The quality doesn't have to be as good, I just want cheaper commissions, even if they're not the absolute best.





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(because I never have commission money to begin with)


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Well you could at least commission public works sometimes.



That's super illegal. You're more safe visiting Masterchan.


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I payed 10 dollars for this image.

It was alright, but it was my first time commissioning somebody.



Jesus, I can do better in under 5 minutes for free.

Oh wait, you're banifag. Nevermind. I approve of you getting ripped off for your hideous autistic shit.



*Never mind.

Nevermind is a Nirvana album, not a real word, nerd.


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The artist is nice to work with. Not quick (but understandable with the quality of his work) and pricey but ever image he puts out is high quality, and both my commissions with him have been exactly what I wanted

here's something I got recently because A: hour turn around and B: $10 of my cat but o l d






He's banifag, I expected nothing less. Ignore him.



>I paid extra for it to be private

A privacy fee? Most retarded thing I've heard since YCHs.


You might be able to edit out the watermark or request someone here to do it.



Post your work faggot, back up your claim.


How easy is it to get away with bid shielding?

I know someone who just started opening up auctions and I'm wondering if I can get myself some cheap stuff from them before they start to catch on.

Only problem is that I don't really have an established scam account. I should probably make one sooner rather than later...


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Fancy new goat badge.


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A tamer commission - still being worked on. Tl;DR my character but significantly older. Mid 40s. Much more experienced, hand and eye have been big boss'd. Implied to have become sadistic and even further removed from society.


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Kind of unrelated but I've been reading through Artists_Beware and some of this stuff is comedy gold.


I'm reading this one and I can't tell if it feels more like satire or a story with a villain protagonist.



Oh, how cute!

Heh, I would've guessed they'd be a big cuddly bunny if you hadn't mentioned their species.


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>go to a restaurant

>the only waiter is a piss stained baby who is touching your fucking food

Holy shit, how disgusting. Coupled with the fact that I know you're an ugly nigger in real life, I can hardly hold back my dinner.


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(((Candyfoxy))) sounds like a cunt and their shit's overpriced so I'd rather take my money elsewhere.

(Having said that, (((Candyfoxy)))'s art style is perfect for the commission I have in mind but I can't find anyone that draws in a similar style.)



fancy seeing you still around vlad c:


Holy shit. Finding slots are like playing musical chairs! This is aggravating.


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>send note to an artist asking if they do x

>they read the note

>they don't respond


Do you think I'd be able to ask artists if they could give me a little doodle in the corner of a commission (about 1/8th the total size of the page) showing a "Moments earlier" kind of scene?

Like a picture of a girl getting pounded by two guys has a "Moments earlier" scene in the corner where they're both flirting with her.

Something playful and sketchy like that would probably cost the same as any sort of extra panel that these people charge for but I wonder if there's anyone out there that would do it for free (and not get triggered at the suggestion).



Just ask. it can never hurt to communicate. Just be polite, and if the artist isn't an asshole they should be alright with it.



I'd do it if you were trusted and not a rando who could potentially scam me, yeah.


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Do Dewgongs have knots?



Can you stop commissioning this shitty OC of yours?



What do people find attractive in dog dicks? Just curious


Doesn't look shitty to me tbh



This whole post reeks of shit taste



It's just canines.


I don't get it either but something about them encourages people to put them on everything.



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Clearly what you need to do is suggest a better OC for him to use.



>ywn be this jelly over someone else's OC


Dice rollRolled 3, 4 + 22 = 29 (2d6)


can you use a trip or something so i can filter you easily

it's not like you're acting anonymous either way


I asked the artist if I could take the character he drew f or me and turn her into her own character. He said anything was cool as long as he got some credit. Looks like I'll have to give her a name and backstory, but I've never been too good with thinking up ideas like that.



Her name is Ariel Aiyana.

Ariel was originally an alchemist named Salma Janae (Saruma Janae) from the Sea of Estray, a cluster of smaller sorcerer organizations on northern Europe. She developed a method at the apex of her magical research allowing her to absorb and merge her existence with the lives of other creatures in order to obtain immortality and ascend to the level of a Dead Apostle. She has existed for over a millennium, and developed into the accumulation of lives she absorbed with a collective consciousness, aligned with her will yet not entirely under her control and of nature beyond her own understanding. The understanding and control over the disordered dendrogram that is her body became her eternal thesis. Even though she is conscious that her mind is slowly fading by being united to the beasts, her ultimate desire is to come to understand the chaos that formed her even if she should be completely swallowed by that very same chaos.

Like many other vampires, she has taken her name from those given by the Church. "Ariel", phonetically spelled "Aery", was given to her as a play on words in Gematria by which the letters that compose it add up to 666, the so-called Number of the Beast. Her second name,"Aiyana", was given to her due to hre nature as literal, squelching chaos similar to a primordial earth.



Geezus, man!

All I did was ask the artist to draw a mouse girl, and make her cute. I didn't tell him anything else beyond that.



This is a shitty Type-Moon OC.


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This is parody right? Otherwise I thought I just logged into deviantart by accident...back in 2006.


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Kill yourself and take this cancerous OC with you

I've never seen a worse OC than this one, and you deserve every ounce of hate for coming up with this abomination

Every pic you've posted has such nice art, but then I see the vomit of rainbow colors and I wish I could just delete your savings so you'll won't ruin any more Pokemon for me



If they removed the tri-color hair, think it'd be salvageable?

Pink with blonde streaks sounds like it has kawaii potential for the anime girl look.

And just out of curiosity, what's your favorite Pokemon? It'd be a shame if they were to order art of their horrible OC fucking it.



>If they removed the tri-color hair, think it'd be salvageable?

Remove the tri-color hair, in fact remove the hair entirely. Remove the unicorn horn. Remove the stupid Mary-Sue wings. Remove the fact that she's a human and not furry.

It wouldn't even be the same character anymore; once you get rid of the shit there's nothing left. It's a character literally composed of a pile of shit molded into the shape of a human.



Why are you even here if your "fursona" is humanshit? This sort of thing belongs on >>>/a/


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What do you guys think these two are worth?



I feel like you should owe me money after making me look at this garbage.



You sound jelly of that anon's work. You've never drawn in your life, have you?



The gryphon is pretty cool looking. Good design and detail, and I'm always a sucker for greyscale stuff



Not a whole lot of places to take feral Pokeporn. /fur/ is probably the closest to a place that'll accept it.


Picked up a comm from Daigaijin who is probably still accepting stuff atm.



They already ruined my favorite >>36236


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Then what's your second favorite?



I was up last night, and I decided that the mouse girl could be involved with a female friend. A very close friendship between the two, and while I was working I saw a little bat toy and I thought that would be perfect.

The mouse is a strong, athletic, and outgoing type; the bat girl (who I have dubbed Maxine for now,) is a fruit bat, shy, and wears glasses to compensate for her poor vision during the day. Maxine works as a barista at the local coffee shop, has a sweet tooth, and loves to fly. The mouse-girl meanwhile has a fear of heights. The two strike up a friendship and become lovers after a time (how I haven't thought out concrete) That's all I've come up with so far in the time between work today. I'm thinking if I should have a commission of some refs for them, or to work with a writer to flesh them out.

And I'd want others to be able to use the characters, as long as credit was given to me. Maybe put the characters under a creative commons license or something?



Some light reading on bat biology informed me that fruit bats belong to the suborder megachiropteran (megabat), and don't echolocate, only microbats such as the vampire bat do. Fruit bats have excellent vision, better than humans. Neat!



I have a better backstory for you.

Maxine is the White Princess of the True Ancestors. The title of Maxine was given to those True Ancestors capable of manifesting the Millennium Castle Maxine, and has been likened to be the vampire royal family, although this is not strictly true. The True Ancestors were a race of beings copied from Type-Moon, the ultimate being of the moon, also known as the Crimson Moon. Long ago the will of the planet had no defense mechanism against humanity, nothing to keep them in check. Thus the Crimson Moon came down and offered to help the planet make a race of ultimate beings to rule over humanity, thus resulting in them being the "consciousness of the planet". True Ancestors are alike to occurrences such as earthquakes and typhoons rather than individuals as their actions, while evil and without justification, would come as naturally to her (Maxine and other True Ancestors) as breathing. However the race was fundamentally flawed, they had a desire to drink blood that their original, the Crimson Moon, had. The True Ancestors needed to use a large portion of their power to suppress this impulse, but as there was no cure, and with passage of time the impulse grew, more and more True Ancestors fell and began drinking blood indiscriminately, while others most likely went into eternal sleep.

The True Ancestors didn't have a specific reason in creating Maxine. They normally only mold new True Ancestors to fit specific needs. There was no need for a being as strong as her, but in the end, she originated from nothingness, simply as a product to realize the pointless goal of "the strongest True Ancestor." They used her great strength to make her into a weapon, the executioner of the fallen True Ancestors and of the most powerful Dead Apostles. According to Mouse-girl, this happened in the 12th century AD, when the number of fallen True Ancestors was very high. She was able to perform this duty splendidly, but she was nothing more than a tool. She was taught nothing beyond what she needed to know to hunt her targets, to the extent that she even ignored the fact that she was the same kind of creature as those she was supposed to destroy, and went to sleep after every kill, with her accumulated memories erased.

As the executioner, she did not have any vampiric impulses, and the rest of the True Ancestors also believed she had none. A priest from the church seeking perfect immortality, Mouse-girl, needed to become a Dead Apostle to continue her research as she had already reached the potential of her mouse-girl body. Maxine, ignorant of her nature as a vampire and the consequences of drinking blood, was easily tricked by Mouse-girl into drinking her and turned berserk, wiping out most of the True Ancestors, turning Mouse-girl into one of the strongest Dead Apostles and having a considerable portion of her power stolen by her, before she managed to regain her sanity long enough to chain herself to the throne and go to sleep. From then on she had to suppress her urge to drink blood like any other True Ancestors. The rest of the True Ancestors were wiped out either by Mouse-girl or the rest of the Dead Apostles, who made a game of trying to assassinate their creators.

Maxine finally managed to destroy Mouse-girl's original body, although it took an alliance with the Burial Agency to do it. Mouse-girl was not killed however, as she had managed to master reincarnation, and constantly reincarnated into host bodies she chose before her deaths. These host bodies were chosen for a mix of social standing (rich families with influence) and the physical/magical potential of the body. After destroying Mouse-girl's original body, Maxine went to sleep and awoke only to kill Mouse-girl's re-incarnations constantly, but was never able to destroy him and get her power back as she would simply re-incarnate each time. At the time of this post, Mouse-girl had re-incarnated 17 times, with her last re-incarnation being Mouse-girl.


So far I've got a two char linework sketch for $70 in progress from the artist. I think it looks good. Will post it later, have to leave.


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Who can draw cute (feral) dogs?

I wanna get a picture of my girl looking like a cute dog.

Then I want to get a picture of her getting fucked by another, larger dog.



Man that was fast. Just received the final sketch this morning. I think it's wonderful.



Are you going to post it like you said or what?


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30bux. Probably too much but fuck it. I like the character and how the guy draws stuff. Still probably overpaid, but 30 is probably as high as I'm willing to go anyways so whatever. In spite of that I'm keeping an eye on someone that does things so I can see his prices, realize that's way too much to pay for porn, and never commission him.

It's GillPanda. Those Red Chair Appointments probably cost a fortune I'm not willing to spend anyways

I've been "learning" to draw. That is, to say, drawing aimlessly and hoping I improve enough to manufacture my own smut one day and milk other dumb furries of their money.


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70 euro plus an additional 20 to have the original shipped to me.




>Dog dick




As REFERENCES, yes, you're A-OK to use them. If you're asking the artist to colour or trace or use anything from that image, no. If you explain to them it's a commission sketch you rejected [but for some stupid fuckin reason you're using it anyway], they may understand, but they'll also be very wary of you because what dumb commissioner uses a commission sketch they rejected [unless the artist cancelled].


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Dog dicks go in every field.



It's more like artists are able to get part of an image but not another.

I say "I want X on top of Y while Y wraps her arms around X's waist."

And the artist will be able to get the pose just right but everything will look kind of loose. I'll say "X looks like he's floating an inch or something. He should be pressed tightly against Y and Y should look like she's hugging him tightly instead of just having her arms hanging limply on X."

And then the artist kind of farts around for another three or four sketches until I have to cancel the commission entirely.

What I come out of the exchange with is a sketch that shows the basic pose that I want but without any sort of weight (or whatever problems led me to cancel in the first place). I just want to show that sketch to another artist and say "Draw this but actually have X looking like he's on top of her and sinking a little bit into her fur and flesh. Draw it with some weight so it's not looking all floaty."

Something like that.




Dog benis


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I know it isn't furry, and it isn't done yet, but this only cost me 13$. I'm waiting on the coloring and shading at the moment.

Ironically, he refuses payment till the picture is done.

Next commission from him will probably be my moth OC.



He's underselling, that's some good work.



For an artist with his background, he absolutely is underselling. He's an Italian artist, and he used to work for Warner Bros, as one of their comic artists.

His name is Andrea Boscolo - I hate shilling for people, but people don't know about him and no one commissions him because of it.

Deviantart account.




No shit. This looks like a sketch layer from a production cel straight out of an 80's Disney movie. Wow.



I don't have a DA atm, only an FA. If he's that good I may just have to make the account and commission something.


How come so many artists refuse to draw copyrighted characters for commissions?



As a fellow dollfucker, I appreciate this qt.



Your request is probably too autistic for them to draw so they use that as an excuse


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If you have normiebook, you can contact him there.

Or... boscolocomics@gmail.com

This was my draenei. He did a great job - HEr face was a little too stylized for my liking, but I knew he'd do an amazing job with say, my blood elf and the wizard hat.




Thanks. I've been wanting a reason to try drawing lewds, and I'm trying to whip up an armor character as well. Like living armor. Big strong amazon type.



Not bad for that price. I'm out of touch with appreciating the 80s/90s style.


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Both were about 40 bucks each.

I know its pone, but at least one of them has a knot.



>40 bucks each

>A muddy, weightless sketch that looks bland as fuck and a flat-color that has unfilled spots here and there and dirty contours

Jesus fuck.



Not bad, honestly.

Who's the artist for the last two?



All these toons look really weird with smooth shading.


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dtcx97/Post Cactus


Not sure which ones you're responding to with each criticism there, Anon



>Not sure which ones you're responding to with each criticism there, Anon

The first one doesn't even follow the show's style, the shading is muddy, it has not been inked and the lines are still on the "rough sketch phase" and are not weighted, the background is a simple limbo, it is bland overall and the pony's horsecock is barely visible. Shouldn't it be one of the focal points?

The second one is in-style, but the artist still managed to fuck up using the paint bucket to fill in simple shapes and the lineart is inconsistent. It also has fuzzy contours and visible speckles of color that they didn't bother to clean up.

You've been ripped off.

But I don't give a shit about you wasting your money, I'm more upset at the fact that some lowly fucks who call themselves "artists" have made money off of this shit.



...Can you put us in touch with this guy? I'd definitely pay some solid money for a cleaned-up pencil sketch from whoever this is.



nvm I read >>38231



I'd get in touch with the guy just to tell him to raise his prices.

It's fucking retarded that that guy gets 13$ for this >>38231

and these rent-an-artists get 40$ for these >>38248



I sent him an email. I'd love to get a piece from him if he's that good. I'm thinking of getting an Animaniacs related thing or maybe something else.



Actually I'm an artist so I was wondering if there was a risk to doing so




Well in that case

Most artists don't know that it's perfectly okay to draw copyrighted characters as fanart

But when you make money off copyrighted characters via commissions or selling merchandise like t-shirt prints and whatnot without the owner's permission, then you have a problem

So they don't draw copyrighted chars cause they don't wanna get sued out the ass for drawing Sonic porn as a commission



But that's stupid! Artists should be able to create derivatives of a work at least and make money off of it, as long as it's not using actual assets from the copyrighted work, just using them as a reference point. At least that's what I think.



No, because they're piggybacking off the IP's popularity to earn a profit.

That's the IP holder's exclusive privilege, barring written consent.

And nobody will consent to profiting off of porn of their IP.

There's also the risk of people believing the IP holder condones and/or supports said practice and, in the case of porn, being a risk to the image and reputation of the IP holder itself.

Plus, there's the added benefit of shitty artists not being able to make bank thanks solely to the fact they're piggybacking off of popular stuff and not because they're skilled. If not outright preventing them, at least gravely hindering and putting them at risk.


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I gave up on Candyfoxy and tried to find someone who could copy their style.




You mean the copyright holder holds copyright on a work. Intellectual Property is confusing as an umbrella term. Who cares if they're using a copyrighted work as inspiration for a derivative? It's not sucking money directly from them, is it? That's total bullshit and you know it.



What's wrong with her shoulder? It looks weird.


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Again, 13$



Can you point out what you mean? I'm not seeing it.

I'm getting the pose mostly redone so I'd appreciate any problems people can point out now, so I have an idea of what to look for in the next one.




Intellectual Property encompasses everything. There's nothing confusing about it.

>Who cares if they're using a copyrighted work as inspiration for a derivative?

It depends. The issue is fuzzy, but if the derivative work can be reasonably mistaken as being part of the original thing, it's a copyright violation.

It doesn't fall under fair use if you make a profit off of it.

>It's not sucking money directly from them, is it?

If it's porn, not likely. But nobody stops anyone from selling porn of their own IP. It would be company suicide, that's why they don't do it, not because they can't.

Just because someone doesn't sell figurines of their IP, it doesn't give you the right to make and sell them yourself without explicit consent.

Believe it or not, copyright doesn't actually hinder the creation of original content per se. It actually encourages it, or better, it only allows the creation of original content.

It's when it's claimed improperly that it becomes a problem.

There's still, again, the part where lowly artists would be able to profit only by piggybacking off the popularity of someone else's creation, not because they're skilled.



>as long as it's not using actual assets from the copyrighted work

So I could create and sell my own Klonoa game as long as I make all the assets myself? Sure you could say that's an obviously shitty thing and that porn is obviously ok, but how do you adequately mark out all the gray area?

Ideally, keeping the law simple and letting you create whatever the hell you want from an IP as long as it isn't for profit and letting the IP holder designate things they're cool with you selling is better for everyone (although something as simple as fan art could be defined as eligible for sale). Unfortunately the law currently gives copyright holders too much power, if they have the money for the legal action.

But let's not derail the thread talking too much about this.






You guys could continue this discussion in the Art thread, perhaps. You'd be able to get more opinions from actual artists there.

Not being rude, just trying to help.



I sent him the info for two pieces. I don't have PP so I guess we'll work through that. He's sending me his card number apparently, whatever that means.


It's like her right clavical bone is too long, at least to me.




I meant whatever below her right shoulder going toward her breast. Don't know what it's actually called.


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Someone paid $800 for this.



I don't see why not. It's a very charming painting.

Do I need to remind you of the kind of garbage furries pay more than $800 for?



Do we need to be reminded of Wolfy Nail and how stupid some people are?




It's a nice image, and indeed i have seen someone pay 1000 just to be added in a gay porn scene, however that image do not evenly remotely worth 800, no matter how nice it is, that's the point



I'm glad that Candyfox has enough dignity to deny you.



This looks amazing to be honest.

Totally worth the price for people that actually love art.



As you said, if people pay a grand to be included in gay porn, this pic was undersold for $800.

It could've been sold for $8000, I still wouldn't have cared nor felt it was overpriced.

Good artists deserve to be rewarded. Gay furry "artists" aren't good artists.

So fuck them, I'd rather have a thousand good artists selling their pieces for a high price rather than even one single furry "artist" selling YCH for a grand.

Complain about these kind of people, not genuinely good art.



Is there a higher resolution of this?



If this were actually painted and the size of a 36"x24" canvas so you could hang it on your wall, it would be worth that price. But as a digital image that is, at best a poster print for a kid's bedroom, it's worth maybe $50.






Maybe, but it's true.

And maybe you should take a hint and take your HUMAN commissions out of the FURRY board.


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Ferals are furry.



Human/Feral where the human is the focus, isn't.


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I could pay 100 for such commission, not more, 800 it's just absurd


I am not complaining about good artist getting paid, i am complaining about people accepting to pay for overpriced commission like nothing, making every idiot capable of holding down a pen believing their skills worth millions just because they can draw straight

If that commission worth 800 then what about this two images? How much they worth? 100.000?



People will buy $3000 stuff if they have an obsession over the art or just really love the artist to bits. Never mind if the art is actually good from subjective POV.



>people accepting to pay for overpriced commission like nothing

>making every idiot capable of holding down a pen believing their skills worth millions just because they can draw straight

That literally only happens in the furry fandom.

Seriously, I'm not disagreeing with this, believe me, I even tried convincing people (mainly furries) of this.

They just wouldn't listen.

So I decided that if they're gonna set the bar that high for your distasteful, badly executed gay furry porn, then I'm gonna set the bar even higher for well-executed art.

That means: fine, buy your furry porn for 500$ from the faggot that just finished reading "how to draw 101" yesterday, you're gonna get a sore asshole when the actual artists come in and start charging thirty times that amount. And guess what? You'll have to pay up or get the fuck out.

By the way, that second one is a fucking masterpiece.

If it was an actual canvas painting, I would not bat an eye if it fetched 100 grand. Even in digital form, it would still be worth several thousands. The fine details are simply fantastic.

The first one not quite. It's very sketchy and looks more like concept art than a finished painting. The one that sold for $800 didn't have this problem.

Also, the concept plays a big role in estimating the value of a piece of art.

Imho, the 800 bucks piece shines in this. The Pole Star depicted as a celestial being above the clouds navigating the ship is quite enchanting. A simple yet original, secular reinterpretation.

Of course, if the same artist drew your gay ass sparkledog fagsona getting its 20-inch horsecock succ'd, it wouldn't have the same charm. And I'd probably agree with it being overpriced if it sold for $800.


>love the artist to bits

love the artist because they're good, or love the artist because many others obsess with him/her? The two don't necessarily relate. They never do in this fandom. Never.

It's always about muh popufur here and muh popufur there.>6



Well I suppose it would be obsession over the artist. I don't really get what makes an artist a popufur.



Pandering to the lowest common denominator.

Appease all with the minimum effort.

Shit out a bunch of shallow stuff of the latest flavor of the month.

Cause drama.

Top it all with the fact that you're getting people to jerk off to your "art" and praise you for how many buckets you made them cum, not how skilled you are.

The rest will come by itself. People will fill the gigantic holes in your skills with their shallow imagination while beating their meat off and will hail you as the greatest artist that ever walked the path of furrydom and nobody will be able to challenge you.

Start a Patreon and voilà, free money.



You can do all that and still not become popufur. It's a combination of roughly 1% doing that, and 99% the same as every other kind of success in the world: dumb luck that you were randomly selected to achieve that. At any one time, there will be hundreds if not thousands of artists drawing the same low-effort porn with the same quality (or lack thereof) yet only a few of them will suddenly start making fucktons of money, and the rest will languish in obscurity.

There is never a pattern or a logic or a recipe for success; it's just something that happens at random. Oh sure, there are steps you can take that will guarantee failure (like never doing anything) but there are no steps you can take to guarantee success. Anyone who tells you there are is a liar or a fraud, or is merely a living example of survivorship bias. Hard work doesn't matter. Talent or quality doesn't matter. The subject of your art doesn't matter. Knowing people matters a teeny tiny bit. It's like cancer. Oh sure, there are some things you can do that will raise your chances of getting cancer (smoking, eating shitty food, hanging around radioactive materials), but nothing you can do to guarantee you don't get cancer. If you're going to be the one person among thousands to get cancer, it's going to be at fucking random. That's the way cancer works; that's the way success works; that's the way the entire Universe works. You're only ALIVE because of random fucking chance. The sooner you recognize and accept this, the sooner you can move on with your life.


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Yeah, well, that too.

But still, quality, hard work and talent aren't frowned upon. They do help.

They should be enough, but they aren't.

I'm talking about artists here, but I think this may be extended to any other field.

Generally, in the "unknown artists megagroup" there are three kinds of people:

<Shitty autistic "artists", the MSPaint ones/those who consider art as a Sunday hobby

Who'll never get good because they either can't or won't try hard enough

<Genuinely good and passionate but naive artists, who constantly strive to improve their skills.

These are the guys that manage to land jobs as artists, they're driven by passion and honesty, but they think passion and hard work alone will yield them success. Nobody can blame them, after all that's how it should work. But the real world is a shitty place.

These are also the ones who follow the "I know that I know nothing" philosophy, especially when it comes to their job, which in turn makes them lack arrogance but also self-esteem.

<Everyone else that invested time in art.

The third group can include people from even the other two groups. In this group you have hobbyists who took their hobby further, genuinely good artists who chose to stagnate in favor of popularity and randoms who spent just enough time studying art so that they're at least better than third graders. These people lost or never had passion for their work, who only strive to put themselves in the limelight and the financial reward that comes with it.

These are the ones that "come out of the closet" sooner than the "good artists" do, because they aren't stuck in the eternal cycle of improving oneself nor chained by low self-esteem. They just regard their skills as "good enough" and put themselves out there, which is an unimaginable thing for a "good artist" to do.

And here comes the big fork in the road:

The "good artists" will rightfully frown at them for abandoning the path of improvement and go back practicing, believing someone, someday will notice them.

Everyone else will be swayed by their bloated egos and their extravagant self-promotion. Because although they aren't by all means "the best" in anything, the people who they manage to magnetize don't know any better. And the "good artists" are still busy being perfectionists, so nobody can realistically challenge them. People, whether internet passerbys or even job interviewers, take their word for granted when they say "Man, I'm good at this, look how awesome I am!" and they end up either becoming popular or being hired to do a job they're mediocre at, at best.

So, what should "good artists" do to snatch the success that rightfully belongs to them and not to some egocentric amateur?

Stay true to their passion and constant improving, but drop the "I don't dare consider myself 'good' until I've mastered everything I can" act and start elbowing people left and right.

Make their way through the crowd of cheering sheeple, all the way up to the stage, snatch the mic off the guy's hand, curbstomp his arrogant face to the ground and yell: "You're fucking shit, lemme show you how it's done."


>commission artist for years

>have generally liked their work

>but have had to have them do constant anatomy corrections over the years

>have more corrections pending

>notice hands

>thumb curve and line of fingers at knuckle tend to be even, when thumb curve at webbing should be behind/lower

>look at numerous older drawings

>they have constantly drawn hands incorrectly with bend/curve in thumb webbing too far forward/lined up with knuckles

shit... I may not give them my business anymore. I could request they go and correct everything but it seems 80% of their hands are like this. It would take 2 months for them to do corrections. It's bad enough I never noticed, but this person apparently went to art college and studied anatomy, they should not be fucking up hand/thumb placement constantly. They shouldn't even be doing the constant anatomy goofs they do. It's like their only art reference is shitty anime.

I may not even speak to them anymore, if they can't even get basic anatomy right and fuck up hands & thumbs so bad then why should they get my continued business? It'd be easier just to disavow everything they've drawn than insist they fix all this art.


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I can't be imagining this, these hands are incorrect.

It's funny, they can draw hands right, I've seen hands that are correct yet they get things wrong more often then not. Recently I had a hand fixed because the thumb was way too long and at an impossible angle, and the fingers were far too long. Another hand had a fat thumb and the curve up way too far. Yet another recent asked correction is due to a large pinky and scrawny middle finger.



I wouldn't say the human is the focus in that shot.



Is it my fault that you have issues with your sight though?


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If you're focusing on the human then that's on you, not the commissioner.


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yea dude i guess this isn't focused on the lucario either haha my bad Xd


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less autism more posting

got some lewd bondage of my cat for cheap


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I don't know if you built up a strawman to attack or if you're just screaming while kicking a haybale.


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I know it isn't furry, but these both cost me a combined 33$

The second was more expensive but it was done and colored the same day I commissioned it.



Who's the artist?


Maybe you'd know if you actually bothered to read instead of trying way too hard to sound cool.



I read it just fine. I just don't see how "This unrelated picture with one character focuses on one character haha Xd" is a valid explanation for how a picture with three characters given equal presence on a page is focusing on the one character he doesn't like.



It's not equally focused and the fact that this autist keeps commissioning that human instead of the animals themselves pretty much proves that on it's own. Again, not my fault that you have sight problems.



I say let the guy order what he wants. If feralXhuman isn't your shit then just ignore it. I don't see any problems with people sharing feral stuff with humans in it, regardless of whether humans are the focus or not.

If you look at the composition of the image, you'll see that all three characters are sharing space equally. There is a flow from one character to the next moving from the top to the bottom and that flow isn't cut off when it gets to the human character. What this means is that, since all three characters share the area of focus equally, all three characters share the focus of the picture. It's a group picture that focuses on the dynamic and the action of all three, not a picture involving an object being acted upon by subjects, or a subject acting upon objects (which is what a group picture with a singular focus would look like).

You can say "You're dumb and I'm smart, you're blind and I'm not" in response if you want but I'm more interested in trying to understand your conclusion and getting upset over nothing doesn't help either of us.



It's because >>38713 is a whiny twat that gets his feelings hurt over human art.



Throwing insults around without any argument sure does make you look mature.


I don't have any problem with human/feral art being posted (even though personally I dislike it), it just gets tiring when this guy keeps spamming his commissions in every goddamn thread.




>paid $40 for an alt

wew lad, someone should take your wallet away.


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Not Andrea, but if you are the dude who was begging for free pics, consider suicide.


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Commissions feels thread

>when the sketch looks perfect but the artist changes a few minor details in the lineart phase and everything looks worse


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>when the sketch looks great but you say everything's wrong and you want to change up the pose/characters since it's unfixable so that you can get more sketches for free



>wait 2 months for artist to fucking respond to my requests for an update

>"sorry i cant do this do you want a refund"

>say ok

>it's been a week

if this bih don't refund me soon I'm just yanking the cash back


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>By the way I haven't updated my commission journal yet but I'm increasing my prices by $20 (and I expect you to pay me that extra $20 even though I don't have the new prices posted yet).



not me.



You're a fucking asshole



This shit almost happened to me when someone I commissioned had increased their prices for a whole month without posting anything about it. Thankfully they let me pay the original price as an apology.



ignore the tism shitkid and his bait




you're fucking crying over human art, you brainless selfish cunt. "Waah he didn't commission what I like", oh fuck you, you crying faggot, go back to Lulz.net with the rest of the retards.



pretty much proving my point famalam



You're the one proving my point, crybaby. Take your first world problems and fuck off, you sensitive cunt. No one cares that your feelings are hurt.


And you use shit forced meme terms too, go figure, you are a retard.


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I just wanted to share pokeporn with my bros.



You're the one that sounds upset Tbh.

And that's a lot of assumptions.


I'm sure /a/ will appreciate it more.



you're not a bro with anyone here. you're a faggot with a shit eating human oc and poor taste


>By commissioning the artist, you’re purchasing labor only. The artist retains all copyright over any work done, independent of stage completion; which include but are not limited to the right to: distribute, reproduce, sell as prints, copy and/or use the image as a sample for sales or self-promotion.

Up to this point I've commissioned artists and politely asked them what I'm allowed to do with art I paid for. I've always gotten back "I really don't care what it is, as long as I'm credited," so I just put the artist in metadata and filename and tell people that like it to support them. But I don't like these terms, I don't agree with them.



Don't commission that faggot. They're a dickhead.

Most artists either;

A: Don't care and just want the free advertisement of being credited where it's posted, which is understandable.

B: Don't care unless you're making money off of it commercially, in which case they'd want a more professional contract/payment scheme, which is understandable.



Your points are valid, and I suppose I AM just a customer. But I still want the freedom to copy, modify, and distribute the work I paid for! Guess I'll look for someone else.



And as a customer you really DO deserve the freedom to copy/modify/distribute as you please at this level.

We're not giant corporations, we're random fucks making yiff characters to typefuck as and jerk off to. Most artists realize that this is, at best, a casual business relation, and treat it accordingly. Most artists (the ones I commission at least) are like;

"Do whatever you want with it, just credit me, and also let me use the artwork for my own self promotion" which is entirely fine. It's literally win win. These works are generally character copyright buyer, artist and buyer sharing copyright/usage rights of art piece.

IE; I bought a ref sheet off of Trash Tank and now they use it as an example on their FA http://www.furaffinity.net/commissions/trashtank/ which is totally cool.



should also add that trash tank is a very nice artist to work with and you should buy their YIFF



Looking at his pricing on comms and a quick glance at his stuff now. Good shit.



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but the "porn" you commission has less to do with pokemon and more with your shitty human OC. No one wants to see humanshit. If I wanted that I'd go to /a/. Where do you think you are? And we're not your bros either.


Anon, this is the internet. The artist "rules" are more like suggestions. They can't do shit to you. So what if you copy, modify, edit, and redistribute their work? What are they gonna do? Send a SWAT team to your house? Send you a court summons? Please. Do what you want. Their rules are imaginary.



You could just ignore them. This is the commission thread so posting the stuff you get isn't off-topic and there are people with a human x whatever fetish around. If they're really bothered by your stuff then they would just hide.


File: 961fc328bd5fc02⋯.jpg (558.22 KB, 2480x3332, 620:833, gross succ.jpg)

Less autistic arguing more commission posting

artist http://www.furaffinity.net/user/takiminada



Wow, an artist that draws facial expressions that actually look human. And not like a cartoon exaggeration of emotion, nor an ambiguous anime impression of emotion. I really like it.



I really like the 4th panels "Really?" expression.


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>/pol/fags all over 8chan preach capitalism and free market

>everyone in the commision thread is mad that artists charge what people are willing to pay



They're poorfags, thus they're not worth listening to. At all.


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File: ab3cb5b12bb1b34⋯.jpg (172.84 KB, 600x437, 600:437, Lola.jpg)

Initial pencils from Andrea Boscolo. I'm already changing some details but I absolutely love the backgrounds. I think I'll keep Lola's lingerie as it is. Not feeling like making it super lewd.


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Lewd or no balls tbh

18 in total for these two. Yes I know. Pone, but meh.



>lewd or no balls

I don't know what that means.


File: b60f1ea1db41d11⋯.png (35.76 KB, 190x119, 190:119, ClipboardImage.png)

Artists who can draw good close-ups of mouths

I have a commission I want to order and one of the things I'm looking for in it is a close-up of a girl's mouth with her partner's claw inside of it.

It's not vore so most of the vore artists are probably out, and it's just a side panel so I don't want to blow $100 on it and have no money left for the rest of the image.

Does anyone here have an artist they can recommend me?


I also have a recommendation request: an artist who is good at drawing on-model rule 34 of obscure characters, meaning not pokémon



Make it lewd, or you have no balls.

Is what it means.


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How's ungulatr? He's good with mouth stuff.

Hopefully I didn't help the wrong person.



I hope man, i hope.

But if you look at the blooming YCH's they almost all Autobuy or go way beyond $100


Ref sheets? Looking for an artist that can work with me through my first one for a character.



What the fuck? That's not what mouths look like!


File: fffceab049675f4⋯.png (473.01 KB, 1200x948, 100:79, 1501969869.cccm-tf_candy39….png)

She's a furry now.

Please judge my taste in commissions.



the content is fine but your character is god awful.






Can my neon cocked furry OC fuck her?


File: ff640dc43200251⋯.gif (2.11 MB, 305x380, 61:76, no.gif)



You asked to be judged, you have no right to call me rude. If anything, you're the rude one here.



Purty Pls?


File: dfe48941539e0e3⋯.jpg (35.31 KB, 320x480, 2:3, no.jpg)


What can I say? I'm a pretty rude dude.




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bbut what if I get on my knees and beg you?



Stop asking and rape her already.



That goes against my moral code. I can't mistreat women even in fictional situations because I'm a good guy like that.



>changing the filename




Bestiality is wrong and you should feel bad.



It's not even the same character, no snout.



Are you being stupid on purpose? It's hard to tell on the internet sometimes.



One is a furry with face fur, dog mouth and a snout. The other is a human.


File: c0626a7714e8789⋯.gif (2.97 MB, 200x180, 10:9, 1384673481592.gif)


>one character is a light skinned human with wings and a horn

>the other character is a pink furred anthropomorphized alicorn with what appears to be a dog nose

>hurrr totally same character u guise

Even the artist is different.



>what are edits



Are you gonna claim that Sonic OCs are the same character as Sonic himself next?



Sure, and I bet every furry character is just an edit of some other furry character (but only when it's convenient for you).




Open both images in separate tabs and compare them. They even said the character was changed to be a furry for some reason. Stop being stupid and making defend this horrible sparklefag oc.


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I am >>38990 trust me.

I say it is perfectly okay for you to fuck the character in that picture.

Don't bother asking for permission from me again, and don't listen to me if I tell you not to fuck that character which is definitely mine.



Thank you m'lady


File: bbf0ce96b68eaa5⋯.png (35.11 KB, 434x633, 434:633, seeeeee.png)


I just did. The results don't lie



Maybe he's got some Mystic Eyes of Death Perception shit where he can see the 0.8% similarity and cut through it to reveal the truth.


File: 7d3dae177a22e25⋯.jpg (24.87 KB, 200x200, 1:1, The_Oracle.jpg)


>It's a variation on the same character

>That must mean it's TRACED!

You're a special kind of completely fucking retarded.



>only thing both characters share is that they both have horns




File: d9b1b0150bfa497⋯.png (442.46 KB, 600x450, 4:3, ClipboardImage.png)

Dice rollRolled 1 + 1 (1d2)


th-they have wings, too...



The character is still cringeworthy but at least it's not a human, that's a big plus.

Also I don't get what the recent fuss is about so I'm just going to ignore it ok.



You're cringeworthy, punk.


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An artist delivered a commission (lined and colored) that doesn't really match up with the pose and angle I ordered.

What do I do? They never sent a sketch for approval.



Corrective rape.



That shit is anything but lined.


File: 506367ee3f9be2e⋯.png (1.25 MB, 1430x908, 715:454, Kill your family.png)


There's only 1 solution for this abomination, Anon. You know what to do.



dude you're a grown ass adult what the fuck are you doing



>no u!

Damn I just got cyberbullied.


I've been wondering all day, but how do birds and other winged furry creatures wear clothing? Wouldn't the excess weight of the cloth interfere with their wings? Would large holes or straps in the fabric be needed?


File: 0c8c99410ce45c2⋯.png (1.73 MB, 4000x4000, 1:1, Amber Master BG.png)

File: 3da1e7d155cc712⋯.png (2.81 MB, 1907x1577, 1907:1577, Amber Script Leaning.png)

Some Diabetes, then more pone stuff.

About 30 in total for both, I think.


Pretty sure theres a thread for this. But I assume all anthro avians fly via magic since they all have human proportions, generally.



That art is pretty fucking garbage anon. You wasted your money.



First one is ok, but second image is creep inducing, what the heck they are there, disguised slendermas?


>tfw an artist won't accept your commission.

Tried 3 times.

>This one looks too childlike for me. Sorry I don't do kid stuff.

I get it.

>I don't do do this particular fetish.

Ok, sure.

>She's 17.

Ended up going with a different artist.



Not gonna lie that's cute


I have a decent design for an OC in my head but no artistic skill. I'm thinking of getting a ref sheet commission and acquiring full rights to the character from the artist, afterward I would license her under CC BY.


File: 1e020fb42aa1fd7⋯.png (7.06 MB, 3000x3000, 1:1, Amber Butt.png)


$18 for this one


File: cd4f3b233540093⋯.png (6.23 MB, 5000x4000, 5:4, Amber Needs Breeding.png)

And a continuation on the cute one >>39144

$20 for this one

Having a job(and a very recent birthday. August 5) has made me go mad with power. So much byirb butt.




Not gonna lie this looks like shit




>ponyshit but this time it's a griffin



File: 4d4b9339b4cd41f⋯.jpg (1.17 MB, 2790x2102, 1395:1051, 1405634642069.jpg)


To be fair, as far as ponyshit goes, griffons are pretty damn okay.


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Less pone then, $8



Aww thanks c:

It was a $12 YCH, and I'm glad how it turned out!

And yeah >YCH but it was too cute to pass up.



Welp, I managed to clear up a little confusion with one particular artist. If I get an OC reference sheet they would retain rights to the piece but not the character. It's a little confusing because I'd only have a description to give in my head about what I want the character to look like and the artist would give it form. But I think I got it now.



Damn! What a cutie pie!


File: 8ceb1be25f29e14⋯.png (6.47 MB, 2481x1754, 2481:1754, kukurobuki 01.png)

Rate my Pokeporn fgts



File: 8bf6c15778a7f40⋯.png (19.52 KB, 147x147, 1:1, l1.png)


Hmm. Nope. Still feeling pretty good. Sorry.



How about now?


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File: 4b0a55af704a21d⋯.png (96.72 KB, 500x500, 1:1, lel.png)


Nah, not really. Is that the best you can do? You can find these lists on ED in a few minutes.


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Oh, you naive little dogfucker.


File: b15d4d8aef01266⋯.jpg (4.06 KB, 190x190, 1:1, 1437964407739.jpg)


That's unfortunate. I guess I'll just have to keep using my main email account instead.




Someone got triggered and signed someone else up for spam mail because he didn't like their taste in porn?

I think it's hilarious.



>>39539 (You)

>>39538 (You)

>>39537 (You)

>>39535 (You)

>>39534 (You)

>>39533 (You)

>>39532 (You)

>>39531 (You)

>>39530 (You)

>>39529 (You)

All me.



Also me.






>he changed his email

top kek, it appeared on his furaffinity page for a split second then reverted to the old one, what a retard. New one is puriririnprincessu@gmail.com



This is really bothering you, isn't it? Otherwise I don't see why you'd be trying to throw me off with non-existent email addresses. Sad!


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Even I don't know who that guy is.


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File: 6c27f50ab1a58ec⋯.jpg (6.01 MB, 5000x3000, 5:3, CommissionANTEDILUVIA.jpg)

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my most recent haul







y-you too



Too young

You're too much of a faggot to be on top


Belly full with my disappointment


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bad shoop fgt


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What is it with people that have incredibly autistic OCs and replying to anything even slightly negative with "rude" instead of a proper response or just ignoring it? Genuine question.





What is this, /trash/?



but i have the autistic oc and i didnt reply with rude. rude.


hey i resent that, i'm actually a power bottom



Because they don't have anything to say but they have to say SOMETHING to garner attention.

Also rude.



because they take any criticism of their OC as a personal attack and shift into full defense mode so they don't look like a pussy



File: ff3ca3a1e1879db⋯.jpg (126.03 KB, 1024x768, 4:3, the.jpg)



fuck me



thats so wrong rude though






see I told you you'd get bullied. Didn't even get bullied well tho, I'm kinda disappointed



power-bottoming is an excuse to be a sub without admitting it



Whatever your opinion of how people have sex is, it doesn't change how they actually have sex.

If you actually got some, maybe you'd understand.


File: d45c5513af1de0a⋯.jpg (1.16 MB, 2800x4000, 7:10, 3D women.jpg)



Lol, look at this faggot. Where do you think we are?




I think I found your problem.



everytime im bullied i grow more powerful


im a switch



Ottagon with bullies: "I am growing stronger."


File: 972b9bebe781e5d⋯.png (330.06 KB, 2521x2335, 2521:2335, tgfjft.png)

got this recently



why are the flying ghost gloves almost the same color as the background

other than that it's very nice



>human dick on furry

Come the fuck on anon


File: e66158253ba7912⋯.jpg (642.94 KB, 2637x3481, 2637:3481, midna sticker final cum b.jpg)

File: a9deaf058a63ab2⋯.jpg (1.87 MB, 2537x3287, 2537:3287, amy .jpg)

File: b168465778b2112⋯.jpg (1.94 MB, 2531x3293, 2531:3293, dog oc.jpg)

Prices range from $15 sketches to $100 full renders. Email me more examples or to get into contact.


I wont draw: males, guro, scat, or inflation.



>"wont draw: males"

>advertisting yourself on a furry board on 4+4chan with minimal quality shit


wanna yiff?



I'm gonna guess that midna is something you'd charge $100 for

if so: lmao



I'm not a fan of rape. Good color and lighting though.


i looked very long and hard for an artist who could draw on-model so that i could have them draw my waifu, and found one with a really promising portfolio. i messaged him and, even more reassuring than his gallery was the promise that he was actually a graphic designer professionally and was required to follow refs perfectly in his business. so i gave him $60 to start with just to see what he can do. very first sketch he sends me and he completely ignored my waifu's refs and ignored the pose i asked for and did his own thing. and now he's admitting he's not confident with it and that he's not sure how to fix it and wants my instruction. and this all after he had me wait two months just for that sketch. wherein he lied to me and said he was studying the character and the pose i wanted during those two months so he could do his best. and i don't even know what to say, i mean, how much more clear of instruction can i give other than "follow the refs" which he has demonstrably failed to do. i mean i gave the guy hundreds of pictures and videos showing every angle and every inch of the body and i'm not sure how that is insufficient for him. why is it so difficult for people to follow refs? it's very stressful to me and i may never commission again. what am i to do, describe what the character looks like to him? following my word would be way worse results than following the pics

what am I to do? help


So, i've got a question for this thread:

Say you've paid for some art to be completed. It is digital art only.

The art gets completed, and the artist sends you a version of it. You ask them for the high-res of it, but they tell you it will cost extra. For sake of argument, there was no discussion about resolution at any point in time until now, nor was anything about resolution listed in the artists' TOS.

The art has been created, but you've been given a smaller version of the natural resolution it was created in - created due to the payment they received from you. Being that this is digital art, what right do they have to charge you more, outside of arbitrarily making you spend more?



Fuck 'em, use waifu2x



Huh, i have not seen that before

Thanks anon


File: 4ca43ddf934eb52⋯.mp4 (4.13 MB, 960x540, 16:9, eeriefag wrekd.mp4)



>My waifu

>a long hard search for artists to draw exactly what i want

>intentionally vague paragraphs

>against creative freedom and unique style.

>I gave the guy hudreds of pictures

>and videos showing every angle and every inch of the body

>I posted this in the commisions thread and im too autistic to wait for a new thread


In all seriousness, just ask for your money back if you think he cant do shit. and since youre already outed as eeriefag you may as well post the sketch he gave you in the comission thread. If he said he was studying a character for 2 months and still cant get it right then hes obviously lying and stringing you along.

For future reference, artists dont need hundreds of pictures and videos to match a character, thats what model sheets are for and style matching is a skill, but not everyone wants to clone the reference, but if he worked in an in-house studio then matching style would be a requirement, and so a lot of people who be as close to the source material as possible are looking to end up in teams rather than carving their own niche out in the market.

You could have put him off by dumping a fucking truckload of ref on him, but its not going to help giving him any more. It doesnt sound like hes much of a drawfag if he cant do a simple cartoon character comprised of basic shapes. I'd at least like to see why you thought the was a good pick by the gallery



oh sorry i didn't see till just now

i already decided fuck it. >>40114

thanks for your long thought out reply though and not treating me like shit


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>This is why you should avoid artists that state up-front they're keeping ownership.

I do this. If I can't at least do what I want with the piece other than assigning credit to them, (which is fair to me) then I don't follow them or recommend others to commission them.

>work for hire

I was under the assumption that since you as the commissioner retain copyright over the finished piece. Am I wrong?

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