No.506736
How do you feel Bellwether being the hidden antagonist of Disney's new movie, Zootopia?
No.506763
No.506774
What is the in-universe reason for nearly every movie title in Zootopia referencing a main character's species?
For example, Cinderella isn't at all about race, the main character is different from others only in that she's an orphan. Presumably there was never a fairy tale titled Cinderella in the Zootopia universe, so the pun title isn't referencing anything but the fact that it stars an elephant. From an in-universe perspective, it's not a spin on a known title. Why do they draw attention to species when it's the least interesting thing about the story they're implying?
>durr it's a cartoon just turn off your brain
So you like cartoons, but admit they are a garbage medium that should be held to lower standards. Got it.
No.506779
If you didn't see that coming from miles ahead, you're retarded
No.506835
>>506774
Because while we live in a universe in which there is only one species, Zootopia has multiple species and it's more than likely that their movies and stories in general attempt to convey what species the story is about as quickly as possible. Probably because certain stories would fall apart instantly in certain situations. Like Cinderella not making sense if it involved any species with good scent tracking skills.
>>506736
Sadly, was kind of spoiled for me. However, I do like the very consistent influence she has in the film.
No.506847
I find it alarming that despite having a modern society with advanced technology and a massive city that surely took generations to build, the animals apparently have never heard of botany.
In an alternate universe where botany exists:
Mayor: "These animals are going feral, lock them up and get the top scientists to study it!"
>Scientist takes one look at a feral animal
"Yeah that's the effects of the flower 'Night Howler', which has been documented thoroughly and has a wide-spread awareness campaign due to its ubiquity and danger level. Frankly I'm astonished the mayor hasn't heard of it. Take them to the nearest hospital, they'll be fine in a few days.
Spoiler formatted, even though OP is a dick and didn't do it.
No.506856
>>506835
>while we live in a universe in which there is only one species
>thinks humans and niggers are the same species
>mfw
No.506868
>>506847
fucking this. Only thing that really threw me off about the movie, everything else was fantastic
No.506875
>>506847
Now to be fair.
The concentrations of the plant are probably at levels that nobody, period, has seen before. As eating a single one will apparently make someone flip out, having the most toxic part of a dozen or more of it would likely cause problems.
The doctor researching the animals was likely either a biologist or psychiatrist. They likely saw the effects on the brain, and even detected the chemical causing it, but would have no idea what it was. Remember, these were predators from dozens of different areas with different lives and external factors to their lives and they didn't know someone was darting them purposefully. Couple that with a refusal by the mayor to accept a 'biological' reason for going feral and progress would be slim.
Otterton figured it out. He either had direct knowledge of animals going feral from his mob connections or because they came to him. He knew the effect of Night Howlers on animals and was trying to talk to someone who could find out what was going on only to be stopped. Likely, any other botanist would have figured it out instantly if they knew what was going on.
This is kind of the basic concepts behind the series House was based on. There is a little bit of missing information, like exactly how long they've been doing about it, but sometimes coming up with a diagnosis can take a while. Especially when it's one doctor tying to work off the books. Though after its discovered I'm positive one of Otterton's botanist friends would have figured it out, though at that point Bellweather could be fucking with things.
>>506856
Come back when mixed race children aren't able to reproduce.
No.506884
>>506875
Solid explanation, gj anon
No.506891
>>506875
Fertile offspring is not a concrete characteristic of defining species. Lions and tigers are obviously totally separate species yet can have fertile offspring. The same example is also proven with some domestic cats having fertile offspring with wild jungle cats. Also many other animal hybrids that can fall into the F2 category.
Also, mixed race or mixed species humans have historically developed a propensity for higher incompatibility with tissue donors and bone marrow and organ transplants. Also, they're far more likely to have genetic disorders. Niggers also have a much higher risk of having mentally retarded children.
No.506911
>>506891
You focus a lot on humanity to be an actual furry.
Also, this is just precious. The textbook definition of species is
>a group of organisms which can interbreed and produce fertile offspring.
So, who should I believe? Fucking SCIENCE? Or random asshole from the internet saying that it is wrong?
Well geeze, this is a tough one, but maybe you can meme me into submission with more junk science and goalpost moving. But hey, maybe one day we'll reach a point where the human species actually does hit a point where it splits and interbreeding wont be possible.
Despite everything, I'd still fuck Bellwether. In fact, I think a good honest dicking would solve all her problems.
No.506916
>>506856
Looks like even /pol/ resorts to "Current Year" arguments.
No.506918
>>506916
It's 1973, why aren't we fucking foxes?
No.506926
>>506736
i don't like sheep
lambs are still cute though
No.506928
>>506911
That is the basic definition of species for plebs who don't need or want to understand it any better than that, It's obviously not as simple as that though otherwise lions and tigers would be the same species by that definition.
Species are often differentiated by common characteristics and habitat range on top of just being able to breed. There's a reason we have to do this, and not just so that lions and tigers aren't the same species.
I can't remember which bird from what documentary it was I watched, but basically there's these birds around the Himalayas that all have a common ancestor. As they colonized around the Himalayas they diverged into new species, and now here is where it gets interesting. Each unique species is capable of producing fertile offsping with the other cousin species beside them, but by the time these birds colonized full circle are the Himalayas the newest version of them was incompatible with the original. So if we did try to define species solely on being able to produce viable offsping then we'd have this issue where like a middle species is compatible with it's neighbours, but those neighbours aren't compatible so they can't be the same species. You follow me?
Also I heard that Homo Erectus would be compatible with modern humans, but clearly it is not a modern human.
And this is coming from someone who doesn't even consider Africans a different species, just someone who knows more science than you :)
No.506931
>>506891
Always looking for redpilled furries, to remind myself I'm not alone.
add me on skype at peter.parring for a bit
No.506933
>>506928
>otherwise lions and tigers would be the same species by that definition.
Male ligers have never reproduced.
No.506937
>>506928
That's so adorable, You're still trying to move the goal post.
I mean, oh no, I've been called a pleb. That means I should completely abandon the fucking definition of species and adopt the razor fucking thin alternative non-definition. For a bird you can't even directly name.
And yeah, basically, you're fucking 'lying' or at the very least parroting some BS. Because if such a bird actually existed. Then evolution would be proven 100% proven in an observable, repeatable format. And that would be shoved in creationists faces so hard as to produce a physical imprint. But since it isn't…
Either evolutionists on the global political stage have been keeping this in their back pocket for funsies as creationists usurp more and more power, or its wrong. I don't really care which at this point. Have a good night.
No.506940
>>506937
>Then evolution would be proven 100% proven in an observable, repeatable format.
You mean like bacteria/viruses/lab mice and rats/bananas/dog breeds/cat breeds, et;al?
(I know you're not questioning evolution itself, but it's already demonstrated to what is essentially the fullest possible extent. It has been shoved in creationist's faces, but people have a remarkable talent for ignoring things that counter their worldview. The sky is neon green and nobody can tell me otherwise.)
>Either evolutionists on the global political stage have been keeping this in their back pocket for funsies as creationists usurp more and more power, or its wrong.
Or as a third option, you have scientists on the one hand and clergy on the other, both advocating different things (let's say textbooks), and a politician who looks at his voting base and goes "hmm, 60% of these guys are religious, but only 10% of them are STEM, and E is about 60% religious anyway…"
Though often it's not clergy but parental busybodies. A politician is more likely to listen to what will get him re-elected than to what is factual.
No.506941
>>506939
Of course there are differences between races, that's just the nature of evolution.
But why does it matter?
And if it does matter, why does it always feel like it matters in an extremely negative, almost hateful way? It feels too hateful to be 100% truthful and honest.
Something is fishy about hating animals of a similar species.
White humans aren't that great either, in case you haven't bothered to look inward at your own weaknesses.
No.506942
since this thread is fucked anyway:
if we were going to sub-segment humanity, race would be as shitty as doing it based on your favourite TV show. it incorporates factors far beyond simple biological makeup and then gets used in all sorts of silly ways.
No.506953
>>506931
>Always looking for skinhead furries, to remind myself I'm not alone.
>>506941
>White humans aren't that great either, in case you haven't bothered to look inward at your own weaknesses.
>implying /pol/kiddies will ever acknowledge whites doing anything wrong
No.507004
>>506736
lol if you actually think you can spoil this and every furry hasn't seen zootopia five times by now
No.507106
>>506937
>I mean, oh no, I've been called a pleb. That means I should completely abandon the fucking definition of species and adopt the razor fucking thin alternative non-definition. For a bird you can't even directly name.
They're called ring species.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_species
No.507109
>>507004
>tfw u a furry and dont give a nut about zootopia
ill watch it when the YIFY rip comes out ;^)
No.507311
>>507109
You mean the YIFFY rip?
No.507359
I delivered a pizza to a house with a little girl that wore a Zootopia shirt today.
I was sweating on the inside.
No.507365
>>506779
Like seriously, her not being given much screentime throughout the movie while still making her pop in from time to time literally screamed "chekhov's gun". The lion being a dick to her only cemented my belief that she was the villain.
No.507419
where's my Gideon Gray x Judy Hopps Rape porn?
No.507447
>>507419
>wanting violence against god-tier waifu
fuck off ya cunt
No.507454
>>507447
that opening scene tho
No.507467
>>506875
Come back when you're not a faggot
No.507550
File: 1457425186822.png (1.16 MB, 801x1280, 801:1280, dc311eedf039cf37dd4bd4e218….png)
No.507554
No.507563
>>506736
No way, is that first picture a shot from the actual movie?
Why is the ground texture so fucking garbage? Was the character just edited in during post?
No.507568
>>507563
That's not from the movie, that's just a character image.
No.507569
>>507568
Alright, thank christ.
No.507570
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No.507573
Is this /pol/ or is this the zootopia thread?
No.507622
>>507563
Wow, thanks for pointing it out.
No.507628
>>507419
>where's my Gideon Gray x Judy Hopps Rape porn?
Somewhere
No.507670
Just an update and I will color Judy and everything by tomorrow. I will draw more Judy after this since she's a cutie.
No.507673
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No.507677
No.507722
>>507573
/pol/ is paying attention for sure.
No.507774
>>507670
moving her up has made where she is looking seem a bit off. At ground level it made sense but her new position makes it look like she is looking above/past the body. Still great work though
No.507790
Is there a screenshot of the uh "nude scene" I've heard about?
No.507799
>>507774
So should I lower the chair/her position so it would look better?
No.507802
Zootopia is casual babby's first furry shit
No.507811
>>507570
It's weird reading this in their voices because comparatively Robin's voice has heavy distortion.
No.507823
File: 1457478699628.gif (Spoiler Image, 1.93 MB, 245x350, 7:10, 9172dd5b03d599fd91313925a5….gif)
No.507828
>>507790
The nude scene sucked.
0/10 no hot animals
No.507829
>>506774
Because it's a pun. It's supposed to be funny because they're all animals, get it?
No.507854
>>507828
The panther from the nude scene was okay.
No.507870
>>507854
Those bears were also having WAY to much fun scratching on those trees.
>>507829
I'm autisming over the A not being an super hard right now.
No.507876
>>507802
BREW LAD!
It was above casual, it was fantastical!
I watched Bolt today and I'd say that Disney GREATLY improved in storylines and character designs since then.
No.507907
>>507828
What would you consider as "hot animals"?
No.507926
>>507829
Do the fictional people in that world know it's a pun?
Or are they making puns they don't understand for the benefit of a human audience outside their world? Is that like a religion to them?
No.507930
No.508052
>>507722
we have fetishes too ya know
No.508057
No.508059
>>507573
Most of /pol/ decried it because they think that furries are going mainstream due to da j00s.
No.508156
No.508185
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No.508187
Let's adress how bullyism is managed in zootopia, are you okay with?
Judy get picked only one time, scars magically disappears and the bully just pull later a verbal apology which Judy accept!!! To add to that, the slashing part is handled like something good to Judy to forge her character, and the bully has a critical role in solving the case.
I feel this wrong, Disney distort the problem that bullies are, to the point it almost promote bullyism behavior.
Won't be surprised to see boys hitting girls more often because "zootopia showed me it's for her own good".
No.508197
>>507799
yeah, bring her lower, making the body the clear focus of her gaze. (you see what I mean about her elevated position make it look like she is looking beyond the body ya?)
Also sorry for the late response, I'm an idiot and thought this thread was on 4chan's /co/ and couldn't find it
No.508198
>>508187
The bullying scene wan't meant to promote bullying as something positive, but more to highlight Judy's strength of character when faced with such adversity. She fights and doesn't let some aggressive fuck keep her down or abandon her dreams.
No.508245
>>508185
Gosh those teeth are adorable.
No.508247
Anyone have a link where I can watch it?
No.508250
>>508247
There are some crude videos shot of theater screens out there you could torrent but they really don't do the movie justice.
No.508252
>>508250
I'm aware, I've seen it twice. Just want to watch it again and don't have the funds to throw $30 at movies in under a week
No.508254
>>508252
In the old thread was a kat.cr link
No.508255
>>507799
>>507670
draw-anon, can you post the original with J on ground level?
No.508256
>>508198
That's where there's cracks. A bully doesn't stop until he mentally broke his target, and Gideon has clearly the upper hand to keep coming back. Judy taking back the tickets was meant to consequences which conveniently never happenned.
In a RL situation she would have carried big scars on her cheeks to adulthood and gideon would not have picked her only once.
The cheap accepted apology is the most fucked up thing in the movie. "scuse me ma'm, i slashed your face i'm sorry" Of course he can says that. In zootopia scars heals back!
No.508257
>>508185
Where this sequence came from?
No.508262
>>508256
I was also a little disappointed they completely removed the scars from adult Judy. As far as Gideon being a bully, his tactics were intimidation and verbal abuse, and against younger kids, not Judy. He did shove her and act like a fucking jackass, but things only got violent when Judy tried to defend herself. What I'm getting at is there wasn't really a precedent for Gideon's violence, and it was probably an isolated incident.
>>508257
Apparently a removed scene/subplot where predators were made to wear tracking/shock collars because prey didn't trust them. this is Nick relaxing after having his removed.
No.508267
Calling everyone's attention to the fact that Gazelle is probably so pro-predator because she is secretly dating/fucking one of her tiger backup-dancers.
No.508269
>>508262
That got dark, real quick
Also were did you get that footage?
No.508271
>>508269
I didn't post it, but anons have explained the context in previous threads. I don't know the source, sorry. Wish we could get our hands on all those extra scenes they left out, there is apparently one where Nick goes back home with Judy to meet her parents
No.508272
>>508255
Nevermind, I found it. Did you draw this second pic as well?
No.508274
>>508267
>secretly
>one of
anon pls
No.508281
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>>508255
>>508197
Pic related to solve critique-anon's apparent inability to properly convey an idea in writing.
No.508283
>>508274
a-anon, what are you implying?
No.508284
Anyone have the full set the first image >>508283 is from?
No.508287
>>508269
>>508271
Hopefully those scenes will be on the DVD once it comes out.
No.508288
No.508297
No.508301
No.508302
>>508284
Found this from 4cuck
No.508303
>>508301
I'd trade ya your IP address if you don't wanna use the site. I'm permabanned for pissing off the /a/ mod with my shitposting.
No.508308
>>508287
it would be even better if it is director's cut with the subplot still in there
No.508319
>>508256
>Of course he can says that. In zootopia scars heals back!
Then what's the problem?
If anything the bullying helped Judy become insanely determined towards her unrealistic dream (which in our reality, of course, is less of a positive consequence since even realistic dreams rarely come true.), so it unintentionally helped her. That combined with the fact it didn't leave any long-term physical damage (and the fact that he didn't really have to say sorry at all, he could've just avoided her, and even if he didn't your adult self is often a completely different person to your kid self anyway.) minimises the long-term seriousness of the matter.
>>508262
Also has a point that generally he was nearly all bark and no bite, picking on younger kids. He just happened to get violent once when someone actually stood up to him. (His friends were also there at the time, so he couldn't really back down without looking like a BUNNY
No.508326
>>508262
>>508319
Without being smacked Judy wouldn't be determined to get into ZPD, and without accepting verbal excuses couldn't solve the case.
Theses are what make Gideon and bullying so important in this movie, and wrong at the same time.
Accepting words repairs for mental and physical damage following the motto "accepting apologies makes you stronger than grief" is an self dellusion. All it proves is how submissives the target is and how the bully can easily get away by trading his violence for lip service, heck, Gideon could have smiled at Judy after she let his excuse slides, nothing more satisfying and empowering than let the victim get nothing in payback
But with the already 34 surrounding Gideon where's the surprise? Of course somes would already pick his defense
No.508329
>>508303
224 x 9 Year of our lord and Savior George Costanza
>Having a static IP instead of dynamic
No.508350
>>508302
That's actually pretty cute
>>508326
I don't entirely agree if I'm understanding you right. I think brooding and being pissed off over something that happened a long time ago gives that person way more power than shrugging it off and accepting an apology.
I do think that Gideon's bullying did help her in the long run though. Could you imagine if she'd run into all of the insults that she did throughout the movie having never experienced them before?
No.508360
I want to wreck her ovine ass and it's lamentable that there isn't more porn of her especially from behind
No.508362
>>508329
Is that the guy from the 4chan/s4s/ meme?
No.508363
>>508362
>>508329
never mind no it's not
I'm a fucking nigger
No.508369
>>506774
because you are literally being autistic
No.508372
How long does it typically take for high quality torrents to arrive? Until DVD release? I don't watch many movies, sorry.
No.508379
>>508187
jesus christ man take some English lessons
No.508384
Have a fixed version of OP's pic.
No.508407
Hi furfag/pol/ack here……….. Just have to ask, besides what i already know about the general themes of the movie….. how pozzed is it?
can anyone give some specific scenes or examples of degeneracy/liberal SJW-ery?
from what I can see, they did a good job of keeping the whole "don't judge" moral ambiguous enough that it can't be directly compared to any specific real world group but still the "we're all the same, one race the human race" was front and center
No.508419
>>508407
It was a bit more about avoiding making too many assumptions about a person (animal) based on what they are. There's a theme about realizing that there are differences that can't be helped and that they can make it much harder for certain things to be accomplished; it definitely turns the whole "you're special and the world will bend to whatever you want if you believe hard enough" message on its head.
I wouldn't say there was any SJW message since the prey weren't demanding reparations from the predators because they used to eat them. The only character that seems like she might be a SJW is the villain since she uses her influence to try to turn everyone on a group she doesn't like.
No.508423
>>508407
Any description that I give you would be useless because /pol/ can be anything from a regular human being to some troll saying hitler did nothing wrong.
So no, they don't throw the sheep into an oven though there is a point where she says something like 'oh my sweet lambchops'
But as far as actual human beings opinion on it? It's dealing with prejudice, bigotry, stereotypes and fear as real subjects. As in anyone and everyone is capable of having their own preconceived notions, they aren't automatically pure mustache twirling villains for having them, and if someone fucks up and does something stupid about it they can apologize.
So basically talking about racism and saying every tactic regressive fuckwads are using to use it as a weapon can fuck right off.
When introduced to Nick he basically has a two minuite speech about how the world doesn't give a shit about Judy's dreams or how much she believes in herself.
No.508428
>>508262
Oh disgusting. So not only is this story pro-feminist through and through, it's also pro-muslim? God damn it.>>508262
No.508434
>>508428
its anti-feminist dude, redpill as fuck. All the different species/races are fighting because the media-manipulating jew-sheep is pitting them against each other, once she is removed peace returns. Brought to you by /pol/. But really the movie is fantastic, brings an anti-SJW agenda message.
No.508437
>>508372
Unless a leak ocours, until the dvd its released
No.508438
>>508407
You have to go back
>>>/pol/
No.508440
idk y but i find the racial tension between preds and prey really cute
No.508446
>>508434
Sounds more like "don't be scared of the predators, were all one race the human race" which to me is closer to "welcome refugees" than "men actually aren't all rapists."
No.508448
>>508446
Shit, I should've read
>>508407 's post first. Complete coincidence, I promise.
No.508470
>>508434>>508446
You can interpret it both ways, but the predators being rapefugees sounds like a more plausible explanation, considering that disney are themselves media-manipulating j00-sheep.
No.508482
>>508407
>>508428
>>508446
>>508448
Y'all nerds keep trying to form your own jew-conspiracy /pol/ opinions of the movie without having seen it and disagreeing any anon trying to tell you its not that bad.
Either go see it or don't, but stop asking if it is pro-SJW then rejecting our answers when we tell you it isn't
No.508490
>>506875
>zootopia sequel
>doug the assassin escaped and is now hired on to the new mayor
>new mayor wants to develop a nighthowler bomb and drop it on enemy town
>whole movie is an anti-war, anti-WMD message
No.508497
I thought it was a good film. I'm looking forward to the porn.
I didn't see Bellwether coming for a ways, but I'll just say that's because I was focusing on the more immediate plot and the great detail the film had.
One thing that I found disappointing was the fact that not all of the biomes were explored or even mentioned. It almost feels like they want to make a sequel, but I have no idea how something like that would work out and still have the effect of this one.
As for the message of the film, I found it relevant in the context of their world, but not our own. To treat everyone equally, disregarding species, is easy in a world where most individuals seem reasonable or in the very least not violent. Compare that to our world, where riots in Baltimore and Ferguson, among all of the other feral and violent atrocities commited by the negro.
Undoubtedly, some people will take the message as relevant to our world, but I think others will realize how much better those animals have it.
As for Judy's scars, I figured they had healed and also possibly been covered by longer fur as she grew.
I don't find it that unlikely that she could forgive someone who bullied her. You must also consider that she recently had a fight with Nick and still felt awful about what she had said about predators. Given that Gideon was a fox, that may have also led her to be more forgiving.
Gazelle was hot in the ending scene.
No.508499
>>508482
I've watched it, I liked it very much, and I'm not a hardcore polfag, yet still I feel like the message is relevant to the whole rapefugee situation.
>>508497
The media tends to whitewash their crimes. If you read some leftist press/blogs, you might get the idea that durkaburkas aren't any worse than those cute foxes and bears shown in zootopia and are simply misunderstood or whatnot.
No.508558
Another update because IRL is getting in the way of drawing.
Perhaps getting bullied/preyed upon do make you a bit crazy later in life…
>>508281
>>508197
I lowered Judy's position(or more likely I lowered her chair) to a more acceptable manner and just made her victim lie on a hospital bed/mortuary bed to give a reason for why they are aligned. Thanks for the insights and critique is welcome.
>>508272
Yup, I've also drawn that one since she is a cutie.
No.508571
No.508594
Hey furry, do you want to a fuck this rabbi?
No.508599
No.508623
>>506937
>trying this hard to act like you're on the high ground
I want leddit to leave.
No.508630
>>508262
>>508287
Fuck now I want to see that story. I'm liking it more than the actual movie.
No.508638
>>508262
I feel like pixar's desire to change the story only one year before deadline, a political attempt at fucking up WDAS next movie so Pixar can stay on top, honestly, the collar thing and nick as the hero is much more deep and interesting. (yet given the box office, it backfired)
Just like how Katzenberg tried to drag Pixar to bankruptcy on toy story by emitting countless revisions. (that backfired too)
After that number pulled by Pixar on WDAS they may not be friends anymore. I wonder, which one will go? Pixar or WDAS?
No.508640
>>508262
>>508638
It's still a family friendly film, it would be pretty hard to create a dystopia even children could feel sympathy for.
No.508641
>>508623
requesting full pic please
No.508642
>>508640
I wouldn't want it to be zoodystopia, it's good as it is.
No.508645
>>508638
Do you imply that pixar wrote zootopia?
No.508646
>>508640
The city can be a dystopia place yet likeable.
The mayor could have been a weak, impressionable prey, seconded by a strong and ruthless predator, who's behind the collar thing, and the city divided between prop and anti predators.
>>508645
Andrew stanton was the one asking to flip the story upside down and put Judy as the protagonist, and John Lasseter created the original pitch by combining two aspects of Byron Howard pitches (the 6 he originally submitted didn't made in)
No.508647
I don't understand the complaints about Gideon's transparent apology to Judy about the bullying. I mean, yeah, it was on the nose… but it's essentially the exact thing I've said to people I had bad experiences with in the past. They hadn't met in years. He knew what he'd done wrong, and had clearly been affected by it. When I've apologized to people I've wronged, I've: acknowledged the issue, apologized, explained my actions and noted how I plan to grow from the incident.
then again this is a chan so I can understand why people wouldn't understand a normal discussion
No.508663
>>508630
Heres hoping they do some Bioshock Infinite DLC maneuver where they tell another story in a different setting/world with the same characters.
>>508638
>>508645
>>508646
Can you give me more details on how the plot evolved/changes, and the politics of why it did? Did they really attempt to sabotage the movie for the sake of fucking over a different studio?
>>508558
Sorry you're busy draw-anon. The lowering definitely fixed the perspective issue, coloring is coming out great. Who is on the table? is that Nick? Or just a random predator and she's pulling some Dexter shit? Hope it isn't Nick they're adorable together ;_;
>>508594
Investigating Goys going savage from lack of shekels
No.508672
>>508669
"We're going home Judy, you're drunk"
No.508797
More from this artist >>508672
No.508802
Would anyone be so kind as to translate these?
And these >>508797 ?
No.508819
>>508802
What even is that?
Korean?
No.508841
>the sheep vote
>That wool touching scene
I see what you're doing there
>Turns out to be evil all along
>wants to make innocent predators look like the aggressors/something that rhymes with aggressors because of things that happened way long ago
HA!
Anyways how about that brand new fuel for a new generation of furfags? I keep having gay thoughts for that buffalo SEND HELP!
No.508846
>>508797
>>508819
Looks like thai, but I don't know for sure. Just looks like the runes my old thai roommate would have in his notebooks
No.508847
>>508841
Theres some Bogo over in this thread >>508342
No.508855
>>508847
Thank you.
Also fuck you.
No.508860
Best thing about the movie was the paws. There isn't enough stuff of Judy's feet.
No.508863
>>508860
One fox should not be allowed to be as smug for as long as he was. I felt smugger just looking at him.
No.508872
>>508855
1) You're welcome
2) Why
3) Fuck you too
>>508860
degeneracy
I joke, everyone's got their own thing. Here's all the feet I could find.
No.508882
>>508872
>rabbit with paw pads
This triggers me.
No.508933
>>508882
Well anons posting shit-quality r34 of rabbit waifu triggers me right back
No.508940
>>508936
>drawing direct parallels instead of interpreting it as a general warning against discrimination like the creators intended
Get out
No.508944
No.508963
>>508936
>Only bunnies can call other bunnies cute.
I'll have to give you a citation for that parallel parking job.
No.508964
>>508933
She looks like she's amputated of her left lower arm and leg
No.508965
>>508802
There's wikifur in Korean
http://ko.wikifur.com/wiki/대문
Maybe you could find links to their websites there
No.508966
>>508936
Disney knew you all would try to draw parallels that's why they shuffled the stereotypes.
Judy was yellow until some point, can you imagine, a yellow person big frontal teeth, coming from a place were the inhabitants are multiplying like rabbits?
Chineses would be triggered so hard….
To get back on stereotype shuffling, it mislead people into thinking everyone is equally racists. Revert the shuffle back, and you'll be surprised at how the writers knew how necessary it was!
No.508968
>>508966
People generally are racist, no matter what their own race is. Chinese people can easily be racists towards "predators", and also be offended when others mention their slant eyes.
No.509007
>>508490
pretty solid sequel idea, though a bit out of date
having it take place in the savannah with the camels would be hilarious though
No.509069
>>508968
Not true, some are more racists than others. Take a look at the US crime stats.
It's convenient the main source of racism and violence had its racist part lampooned on the least to brainwash kids on fallacies
No.509070
>>509069
From US crime rates you can only make a conclusion that blacks are much more violent than whites. Violent doesn't mean racist, there's a lot of both black on black and black on white crime.
No.509071
>>508968
>People generally are racist, no matter what their own race is
Fun fact: both xenophobia and xenophilia are natural to human beings, and often a single person can exhibit both in different ways. That's how this board has people who would holocaust every single non-white human, but would fuck furry aliens on the first opportunity.
>>508936
>It's not like a white person could go savage
What about British football hooligans? What about slavs? What about Americans when you either wear a sombrero/say something politically incorrect or mock their guns/freedoms? What about Spaniards/Italians when they get emotional?
No.509072
>>509071
>who would holocaust every single non-white human, but would fuck furry aliens
Uh, depends on the values and behaviour of those furry aliens. If they are aggressive fundamentalists, I'd rather exterminate them too.
>Spaniards/Italians
>slavs
Not white, according to /pol/ science.
No.509077
>>509072
Man, I can see Judy as slavic, since slavs are definitely rodent-y in appearance, but I can't see the foxes as Russian. I can see them as Germanic, Celtic, Bantu, or north american indian, (the traditionally taller/stronger built peoples) but that's about it.
No.509081
>>509072
Zayats and Wolk would be totally at home in a slav Zootopia
No.509091
>>509077
>definitely rodent-y in appearance
Erm, is it our potato faces?
>>509081
Ну Погоди has a setting very similar to Zootopia, with anthro mammals living in a modern city together, except there's no plot whatsoever and it's basically a Tom & Jerry clone with the wolf mindlessly chasing the hare and getting hurt in the process.
Though I wonder if the guys from Disney have seen it.
No.509108
>Zootopia is a 2016 movie
>All the porn looks like it's from 2003
No.509109
>>509108
Do you seriously expect the artists to make 3D models with realistic fur?
No.509110
>>508882
First Image:
3/10
Second Image:
7/10
Third Image:
9/10
Fourth Image:
4/10
Fifth Image:
1/10
No.509115
What does Nick's musk smell like?
No.509119
No.509120
>>509115
What does the fox smell like?
No.509122
>>509120
YIP YIP YIP YIP YIP YIP YIP
No.509131
>>509119
If I made a perfume that smells like wet dog, could I market it to furfags?
I suspect it would be hugely popular, and all those suiters would smell like dogs, while I'd be as rich as bad dragon.
No.509216
>>509131
Please don't try to make furfags smell worse than they already do.
No.509218
>>509216
>implying that a wet dog smells worse than furfags
No.509239
>>509131
I'm really sensitive to smells and usually hate perfume but the exception is this one brand. This particular product smells like a dank and mossy Germanic forest.
No.509240
No.509241
http://cbihateperfume.com/shop/perfumes-a-to-z/402
This one is also another "I've been rolling around is dirt" scent
(but somehow, in a good way)
Really interesting stuff, highly recommend it.
No.509258
>>509241
Nah, I myself don't care about such stuff. Obviously not spending tons of money on it. Shower and cheap deodorant is all I need.
No.509294
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>506937
> For a bird you can't even directly name.
I'll name it for him, or at least an analogous example; the Greenish Wobbler
>Because if such a bird actually existed. Then evolution would be proven 100% proven in an observable, repeatable format. And that would be shoved in creationists faces so hard as to produce a physical imprint. But since it isn't…
It has been. It turns out creationists don't care about science. The bird is the greenish wobbler, and you should look into ring species.
No.509297
>>509294
>>506937
>For a bird you can't even directly name
Sage, is that you?
No.509319
>>509091
Its your long noses, round cheekboanes, almond eyes, etc.
No.509324
>>509294
Well, I guess I was wrong. Ring species do exist. I had always wondered if such was possible. Well, next time I have to deal with a creationist I have an easy tool to get rid of them.
I guess I've been proven wrong and black people are even more human than I was insisting. Thank you.
No.509328
Post yfw you found out there's a petition against Zootopia porn.
No.509329
No.509337
No.509343
No.509346
>>509343
"nevermind i just looked at some of the porn and its actually kinda hot please make more"
No.509393
No.509402
>>509393
Bojack horseman is known for its stealth puns; split second background puns based on celebrities and real life stuff mixed with animal names. It's also super self aware, one running background gag has a group of sign people that write out the whole instructions on the sign. The joke here is that the animators/SB artists did it
No.509423
>>508288
Wow, that /r9k/ beta that plagues fullchan /co/ crying "gynocentric" in every thread is on halfchan too? Is he a troll or legit autistic?
No.509428
>>508288
lel. The whole business about the shock collar is pretty interesting. I'd rather have seen this movie have taken a gender tack rather than race, and that's still how i choose to see it (who hasn't gotten sprayed with "fox repellent" on the t before because of your gender?), but that would have been a little too close to home.
No.509453
>>508497
>Compare that to our world, where riots in Baltimore and Ferguson, among all of the other feral and violent atrocities commited by the negro.
Yet you /pol/kiddies turn an eye when white people start riots over sport: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Vancouver_Stanley_Cup_riot
>>508499
>The media tends to whitewash their crimes
Just like what /pol/ does regarding the nazis. :^)
No.509458
>>508647
>then again this is a chan so I can understand why people wouldn't let jerks get away with all the horrible things they've done because they just said "sorry" like it makes up for everything
No.509459
>>509453
that's an honored european tradition going back millennia you nigger-lover
No.509463
>>509459
>it's okay when we do it
No.509464
>>509459
>honored european
>europe is in the mudlism loving shitter
No.509470
>>509464
Greeks got pushed out by the mudslimes. Their weak hellenic bodies had big minds but sucked at fighting. Their ideas continued until 1776 when America took over for the Romans, being both strong and intelligent.
No.509545
>>508802
Alright, some translations. I'm still learning Korean so bear with me if I fucked up something.
No.509546
>>508802
Now the comic. Took a while to figure out this one as the order posted here was wrong.
Korean sentence structure is still hard for me so the long speech bubbles might have mistakes.
So the point of the comic seems to be that alcohol makes both Judy and Nick's personalities to be the opposite of what they really are. Judy got all care free while Nick became more responsible and considerate. At the end Nick laments that alcohol fucked him and it seems to me that Judy wanted some fox d.
So yea, take the translation with a grain of salt until someone good at Korean can verify it.
No.509548
>>509546
and I fucked up the first page…
Third panel, second speech bubble should say:
>Carrot, get ready for work, quick.
I need some sleep.
No.509616
/furry/ should I be that creepy 30 year old virgin guy with no friends who goes to see this movie at the theater?
I have been avoiding it
No.509620
>>509616
You should. Definitely.
You could probably meet up with local furs and go watch it together if you live in a big city.
No.509625
>>509620
there's a small local fur group but this is them
I never reached out to their group
No.509626
>>509625
Look like average betas. As a 30 yo virgin you would fit in just fine.
No.509645
>>508558
/r/ Nick and Judy gettin iced.
No.509648
No.509677
is judy hopps babby's first furry?
because she's the only furry i'm attracted to or would like porn of, besides that flash file by mittsies with the squirell girl
No.509680
>>509677
Yes, zootopia is pretty much entry level stuff made to attract new people into the community.
No.509849
No.510001
>>509849
>Won't let you enter "Adolf"
No.510011
>>508558
Draw-anon, I hope you're still alive.
How did you learn to draw/color/shade?
No.510020
>>509648
KC
>>509626
they are gross
No.510024
File: 1457834027549.png (184.18 KB, 403x269, 403:269, ss (2016-03-12 at 07.53.02….png)
>>510001
>Lets you enter A dolf.
No.510029
>>510024
This sounds even better
No.510031
>>510028
Oi, I'm not a nazi.
I'm just mocking hitler and how silly he looks.
No matter what /pol/ thinks, he's just another dumbfuck politician.
No.510032
File: 1457834807552.png (116.68 KB, 952x838, 476:419, nazi_doggie_by_mae_mao-d9s….png)
No.510033
>>510031
It used to be it was expected that hitler would get thrown into everything because that was just the nature of the game.
Now with /pol/ unironically doing it nobody can tell who's joking anymore.
No.510043
>>510033
No group pretending to be idiots in jest will avoid being infiltrated by actual idiots believing themselves in good company.
No.510074
>>508882
Its fucking furry, what do you expect. Most of them either don't care, or it tingles their perverted foot fetish when they draw them.
No.510117
File: 1457847094329.jpg (332.09 KB, 1100x545, 220:109, Honey the prepper badger r….jpg)
>>510033
>Now with /pol/ unironically doing it nobody can tell who's joking anymore.
I wonder how they would have reacted to the original version of the film.
No.510118
where can i get nick's shirt
No.510173
>>510118
At the nearest clothes store.
No.510190
>>510173
Russian furries are surprisingly autistic
No.510193
>>509616
The truth is that strangers rarely give a shit about you, who you are or what you're doing as long as you're not bothering them. Most likely nobody will even notice you're there and you honestly shouldn't care what they think anyway.
Unless you act REALLY weird everyone is going to assume you're with a larger group that weren't able to get seated together, a parent checking if a movie is appropriate before bringing the kids etc.
I've seen it alone three times now, it's no big deal.
No.510250
>>510193
>Unless you act REALLY weird
Some people went to see it in fursuits and it was fine, while you autists are afraid to go.
No.510255
>>510190
Gee, such a surprise, who could have thought that furries are autistic.
No.510339
>>510117
Was that actually going to be part of the movie at one point?
No.510348
>>510117
Where did you get this from? I can't find it anywhere else, google reverse search and tineye are useless, and neither can I find it in any of concept art albums on the internet.
Also, are those piss bottles?
No.510360
No.510365
Official artbook scans when?
No.510368
>no horses
fuck yes thanks
No.510684
>>509329
there's a petition update that says "nevermind i looked at some of the porn and its kinda sexy please make more" Fucking lol
No.510702
>>510339
The original movie was a lot "darker" with the whole preds vs prey issue being much more explicit.
>>510348
http://www.matthiaslechner.com/zootopia.html
No.510706
>>510368
There is a zebra in Nick's scout troupe during the flashback. He has hooves for hands, while Chief Idris Elba has hands.
My immersion is broken. 0/10.
No.510720
>>510348
Lechner: "Not sure if it's honey or something else in the jars."
>are those piss bottles?
They totally are.
No.510942
>>510011
Sorry for the long delay. Ive had an infection that needs fighting(good news is that I am recovering from it) and drawing has been hard these past days.
As for how I learned drawing and stuff, I draw from a lot of sources and drawing toons is not my forte, so the best thing to do is to copy the style of what you want to draw, either through having lots of referrences or through direct tracing the drawing style you want to achieve, it gives you the feel of how the lines work/how large the eyes/how the anatomy forms etc etc.
>>508663
Naaah.. not Nick, just some unlucky pred who has left traces of his latest kill.
>>509645
Well we will see but no promises. Just drawn a sketch but I am not confident with how it turned out so I may revise it etc etc.
No.510946
>>510702
is there an album somewhere with all the conceptart?
No.511188
File: 1458013616839.png (307.82 KB, 700x1006, 350:503, 09648e23-1e89-42ba-bba5-d1….png)
I wish the artist made this full porn, but damn is is cute.
No.511316
>>510702
>and I thought it was a genius idea: An animal movie with a twist: Humans have never existed and instead animals have evolved to human capacity and they had created a city build by animals for animals.
No.511815
Found these in a /co/ thread, really liked them both, hope you anons enjoy.
>>510942
I'm sorry to hear that draw-anon, glad you're getting better.
Fantastic job on the completed work, keep us posted on whatever you're working on next!
>>510659
Anon this gives me feels that I'm not sure if I do or don't want
No.511816
>>511815
The fact that the children are mixed-species abominations devalues this work for me.
No.511841
>>511816
agreed
if this is how zootopia worked then none of the species in the film would be actual species, they would be mixed mudblood shits
No.512224
>>511816
>>511841
I am fine if different species can breed, as long as the species of their offsprings is either that of the mother or that of the father. I mean if Judy and Nick got together, the offsprings that they produce are both pups and kits but not that of a mixed up breed. It will be a nightmare for Disney to design new breeds, not to mention the weirdness of it overall. I just mean that having a Koala with antlers or seeing a fuzzy haired Walrus on the big screen would just destroy the illusion for me.
No.512231
>>512224
it doesn't make sense tho
Neither the sperm or the ovule contain enough information to make 1 being
Also if this were true a tiger and a lion wouldn't produce a liger
Sorry, you just trigger my autism
No.512359
>>511815
This story seems so much better than what we got. Like it's still very similar, but the details are far more interesting, like how Nick is still a misunderstood person but isn't a stereotypical foxy scam artist, and the mayor is disguised and the big reveal is at a large pretty event and not on the down low. They could have left it as is but fleshed out Judy's half of the story a little more, but not as much as the current movie.
>>511841
Prejudice would have theoretically prevented mixed breeding until Nick and Judy came along, just like how mixed race couples irl weren't a thing in the past or were small enough to be ignored.
No.512511
>>512231
I would be fine if no Ligers or mixed animals are involved in the universe. Imagine the flood of special OC's that will come out if they make mix breeding possible, we could get a raccoon gorilla if things got out of hand and I cannot digest such spectacle's in good conscience.
That or they cannot reproduce at all which is fine by me.
No.512520
>>512519
Major Lionheart is a mess.
No.512523
>>512511
There's not that many realistically possible hybrids, and most of them are infertile. If the universe of zootopia adheres to real biology at least in some ways, it's like that there too.
So I guess producing infertile and otherwise genetically deficient offspring would be considered unethical, if not outlawed, and I imagine interspecies sexual relationships, even those that cannot produce hybrids, would be viewed as something immoral.
No.512533
>>512523
What do the predators even eat?
>>511815
With places like Little Rodentia, I really don't get why there would be prejudice against a rabbit cop so I liked the old plot better. Also, the old plot seems to do a better job showing the different locations.
No.512534
>>512533
>What do the predators even eat?
Bugs and fish. The more important question, where does milk for icecream come from?
>With places like Little Rodentia, I really don't get why there would be prejudice against a rabbit cop
It's surprising that mice don't have their own cops. Especially considering that there's a mafia boss who's a shrew.
No.512543
>>508267
>First human animal relationship is a famous idol
>Usher in a new era with superior human cock
Wew lad. Could be a fun world. Dump a bunch of decent looking above average intellect males and it's a party.
No.512722
So apparently the three hump cammel joke got translated in some of the non-english localised versions of the movie.
Can somebody confirm this? What did they use instead??
No.512738
>>512722
Here in mexico the joke is the same
No.512759
>>512359
Honestly it sounds like in the original script the moral of the story was basically "cops is racis'". Especially with the cop animals busting up a peace statue and shit like that. It could have been a cool idea if the city of Zootopia were set as a kind of authoritarian distopia rather than drawing parallels with our current society, but otherwise it would have just come off as #BLM with animals.
I like the direction the movie ended up going better, that being divisive is bad no matter who's doing it and for whatever reason.
No.512801
>>511815
Eerrr.. its not that completed so I added more. Sorry for the long ass delays but I am glad that I am just able to finish it. As for whats next, lets say that it seems that Nick and Judy might be shipped off to North Kor… I mean Flower Hill.
No.512806
>>512759
Well seeing the shock collars it has that not-so-perfect undertone that would have made it more interesting, instead of just literal utopia with clever animal-themed visual details that we have now. As another user described it: they removed the film noir, the crudeness the city has in the concept art.
I understand it looks a bit racist, although not the cops as you say but their government as a whole. In both versions of the story, however, all the racism is linked to a single person pulling strings, so the moral ends up not being about starting a revolt against the government/cops, but outing Trump-like individuals.
Also, in the current movie none of the citizens gave a shit about the feral fiasco for most of the movie because they didn't know about it, there was little tension as a result. In this previous version tension is built through them being chased the entire time.
No.512952
>>512801
>Judy as a Dexter-like character, working with the cops while simultaneously hunting down and executing mammals that kill others
Jesus draw-anon you've got some good shit on your hands, find a good writer and you're going places.
No.512971
>>512801
>zootopia / Squirrel&Hedgehog crossover
Holy shit, it's totally plausible for the S&H events to have/be happening in the zootopia universe.
I love you man. Now I'm totally gonna ship Judy with Mulmangcho.
No.512972
>>512962
Oh my gosh.
Ohhhhh my gosh. Yes.
Yes so hard. OMG yes.
No.512973
>>512962
>dem li'l kisses
>dat paw spread
>dat lick
Oh god, everything about this is perfect.
No.512980
>>509091
> it's basically a Tom & Jerry clone
its better than that.
its a tom and jerry clone but tom and jerry are most definitely fucking.
No.512983
>>512980
I'm pretty sure that the soviet animators who made it didn't have this in mind.
No.513078
>>512980
>implying Tom and Jerry aren't secretly in some sort of relationship
No.513096
>>513078
Must be a really violent one.
No.513643
No.513695
>>513664
Jude is not for lewd
No.513703
>>513695
she's for protecting
No.513741
is there a download link already that doesn't look like its 480x360?
No.513777
>>513751
that first picture makes me remember why i'm intersted in this movie. i just kinda love the way they take more of realistic daily life shit that's usually omitted in fantasy movies; like always looking at your phone, the advertisements around- even the dressing styles. i haven't seen it yet tho.
in all honesty this is how i wish the furry fandom was represented- not "Rave Bloodclaw, the Wolf". Rave the Accountant.
Where's my Rave Blood Claw, the accountant????
No.513789
>>507828
THIS. The panther aside, I was very disappointed at that scene, such a wasted opportunity! Imagine if both Judy and Nick could only be allowed in if they took off their clothes too! At least they could have added more animals like the panther.I guess it's a nice scene if you love pigs and elephants, but…
No.513790
>>513751
remember that official concept art goes here: >>511880
No.513821
>>513790
Why do we even need that many threads?
No.513875
>>513789
Disney probably didn't do that on purpose so faggots like you wouldn't jack off in the theater.
No.514391
Just according to Keikaku.
*Translators note: keikaku means BAA*