/furry/ - Your new home

There are people with all kinds of fucked up fetishes, and genital mutilation isn't the most extreme of them.

>>>/agdg/

hey, smell that?

it's stale bait

>>509092

i want to fuck disgust

how would you go about circumcising a sheath?

Is this the (You) thread?

I think circumcision as a fetish isn't that bad.

I mean, a traumatically painful event on such a sensitive body part as a child will certainly leave behind mental scars.

But that's all about the torture, pain and violation of such an act.

For a furry to just happily be circumcised, for religious reasons or some weird culty shit…

That's fucked up. They need to burn. Circumcision on real humans or children, or treating it as a good thing is absolutely disgusting.

I think I was circumsized, I mean, I have the dick scar, but when flaccid, I still have a shit ton of foreskin. It's like I'm semi-circumsized, the guy who did it fucked it up and left like 90% of the foeskin behind.

>>509410

when flaccid, I have the typical foreskin covering the whole penis head thing, but when erect, I have very visible jew scar

>>509333

Is this bait?

>>509410

>but I am folded not cut

I'm sorry but what exactly do you mean?

>>509419

Like the way they dock the ears on dobermans

>>509419

He is a hybrid

>>509431

I meant to write "this is new" but I kept fucking up that word for some retarded reason.

I'm sorry.

>>509433

Did I just seriously make another fucking typo in that same three letter sentence? Seriously?

>>509437

Ok. I need to really concentrate my fucking energy here because the entire thread depends on it.

Okay here we go.

This is new.

>>509440

Ah, so the third time you got it right after all.

So, whatcha doing, mate?

>>509441

Wrong again. Replace "this" with "that". But "this" works too and I'm too tired to make this a grammar shitposting funfest so I'll shut up and kill myself.

>>509418

All you really need is for a mohel to suck a drop of blood out of your infant penis. There's absolutely no need to remove any skin.

>>509449

I rather have a human suck on my penis, thank you very much.

>>509519

Because we are told to.

>>509521

But the one on the right becomes the one on the left when erect.

>>509504

we should get together

>>509092

In the grand scheme of weird animal dicks, not to mention the whole made-up animal/human hybrid thing, is it so inconceivable that what appears to be circumcision is actually their natural state? It's all whatever the designers decided anyway, if they say their dicks were naturally like that, case closed.

But there might even be more justification here. Furry dicks aren't really my primary area of study exactly, so maybe I'm totally wrong here, but it seems to me that most animal wang doesn't really have a human-like foreskin at all. They got sheaths, but those don't work the same as I understand. So maybe, just maybe, a combination of human and animal penis characteristics could end up basically a human penis with little to no foreskin?

>tfw jay naylor draws uncut best

>stories are now only about cucking

>>509587

I've never seen furry cuck porn. Could anybody post some?

>>509588

We already have a thread for that. There's way more written than drawn stuff though, so hit up sofurry.

I wouldn't date a guy who isn't cut

Caveman dick = nasty, unclean, disgusting

Europe is pretty shitty compared to the United States, and this thread is their way of lashing out

It's ok bb, the EU will collapse within five years and you can rely on NATO for your protection and support

>the mutilated thinking they are superior

Oh dog

>>509608

>modern medical science

>mutilated

let me guess, you are one of those faggots that doesn't believe in anesthetic for surgeries because it would 'mutilate' your bloodstream with chemicals?

ok fam

>>509609

>modern

>literally pre christian kike superstition

>>509609

>comparing necessary medical procedures to cutting off body parts because ancient jews demand it

Looks like they circumcised your cortex too.

>>509615

just love me already and enjoy my less than ideal dick ;_;

>>509615

>>509614

>>509612

Alright, well I am out. Enjoy your moldy caveman penises and your increased STD rate because you want to literally behave like negros in Africa

>>509619

Foreskin is a god send though.

>>509619

>moldy caveman penises

i bathe incredibly infrequently and even i don't get smegma, if you're so unhygienic you need circumcision then you should be quarantined for the good of society.

>>509629

would you still love me and my jew dick though?

>>509629

It's human psychology.

Many people who have suffered are proud of their suffering and would want others to go through it too (so that they aren't alone in their suffering).

>>509702

>The only reason we're here is because most of us find 3DPD people to be horrible, we like furries because they're cute, sexy, and idealized; if this wasn't true and we didn't base our romantic/sexual attractions on looks alone, we would be trying to find irl partners. But since we don't, we will forever draw pics of things we can't have.

I am not a /furry/, I just randomely came in here and commented in the only thread that isn't about furries/fetishes.

So I would very much like to have sex with real people tbh.

>>509702

>circumcision is a medical procedure which also gives reduced STD risk

Cutting off your foreskin will protect you from AIDS even if you don't use condoms. –Regards, Dr. Schlomo Goldenmann.

>mutilation is just a buzzword

Yeah, amputating living innervated part of your body without any reason to do so other than superstition is totally not mutilation.

>no smegma buildup

Even your disgusting scar tissue stump would smell of piss and cum if you don't wash it regularly.

>>509702

>circumcision is a medical procedure

you keep stating this like it means anything

construting a vagina from a multilated penis is a medical procedure, should any parent who wants a girl instead of a boy be entitled to have it done?

>>509702

>circumcision is a medical procedure

Actually, it's not. There is NO standardized method to removal of the foreskin. Every legitimate surgical procedure, like an appendectomy, or a heart transplant, or removal of a crushed and gangrenous foot, has a standardized and legitimate procedure which the surgeon follows, rather like a checklist that pilots use on an airplane, though usually mental. (In fact, it's been proven that ACTUAL physical paper checklists greatly reduce the risk of surgical fuck-ups like leaving instruments inside the body, but that's another topic.)

Circumcision is not like that. There's dozens of methods, most of them positively medieval, to remove the foreskin and any doctor can choose whichever one they feel like. They can use a clamp which crushes the foreskin and leaves it to shrivel and die; they can use a metal guide that points them to essentially cut on the dotted line; in the 50's the experimented with using electrical current to burn off the foreskin (leading to a famous case where the doctor flubbed the current, frying the infant's entire penis; they tried to fix the mistake by drilling a vagina into the charred remains of the genitals and raising the child as a boy; he developed sex dysphoria and committed suicide as a young adult); and many doctors (and all mohels) just grab a knife a freehand it.

All of this is complicated by the fact that an infant's foreskin is often mechanically fused to the glans of the penis (where it naturally remains as such often until the boy reaches 4-6 years of age), so has to be torn away before the procedure begins. This is why the glans of a circumcised man often has that familiar rough and pebbled appearance — this is not just a callous from rubbing on the underwear, this is scar tissue caused by pieces of it being ripped off when the circumcision was performed. The clamp or guide methods then prove most humane because they at least give a sense of direction. Freehanding or other methods lead to the doctor using his own opinion as to how it's done (again, because it's not a standardized procedure) leading to all variety of different styles. Sometimes they only cut most of it off leading to a "loose" cut; sometimes they cut so much off that the man can barely get an erection because there isn't any extra skin for expansion, and the result is often an unnatural downward curve. Sometimes they cut very low, leading to a scar halfway down the shaft; sometimes they cut very high so it's right underneath the ridge of the glans, leaving almost no erogenous tissue left except for the glans, itself. Sometimes they're not very skilled with a knife and the cut is very uneven or lopsided, leading in extreme cases to what appears to be half-a-foreskin.

In all of these various different methods, the exposed and injured penis is then bandaged and immediately stuffed into a piss-and-shit-filled diaper. The tissue can then (and often does) heal in unexpected ways, leading to skin bridges or adhesions or various other peculiar stumps and lumps of flesh. As you might have guessed, rubbing shit onto an open wound can also lead to infections or other complications, though these are rarely fatal (since we live in an era where walking into a hospital with a headache gets you five rounds of antibiotics).

It's funny how the other anon mentioned anesthetic, too, since it is NEVER used during circumcision; it's just too difficult to safely calculate the right dose for an infant. The usual excuse for this is that, as an adult, they won't "remember the pain". Ah yes, same it's totally okay to torture an animal because they won't remember it years later, right…? You should hear the babies scream when they do it, though; nobody bothers to claim they don't feel the pain right then.

As for smegma, it's no different from ear wax or nasal mucus. It keeps out dangerous bacteria and provides a natural lubrication. Should we start cutting off noses and ears because those other things are also nasty?

I have to concede the reduced rate of STDs (though I feel I must add that it's only been proven with AIDS), but that's pretty logical. The more tissue you remove, the less places there are for the virus to get in. I guarantee that if you cut off the entire glans, there would almost zero chance of contracting STDs. I'm sure if we perform the procedure at birth, the men will learn to have an orgasm from shaft stimulation alone.

>>509824

Reading this made me sick.

I wish I wasnt cut, thank fucking GOD at the very least I have enough foreskin to move around and masturbate naturally with, the only thing it doesn't do is cover my glans when flaccid

>>509860

*pierce your ears

Or any other part

although eye dye injections are also a thing

is that "mutilation" too?

sage doublepost

>>509860

>nice assumption.

unless you specifically repudiate it, it's to be assumed you accept it. (because if you're circumcised there's like a 99% chance you had it done as a child, not voluntarily…)

>>509519

>The AAP

kek

https://www.aap.org/en-us/about-the-aap/aap-press-room/pages/newborn-male-circumcision.aspx

>>509449

*very* interesting!

(wish my parents had known that)

>>509449

>>509918

Except for the fact that rabbis can have bacteria in their mouth and some even have oral herpes and transmit that to kids, and the kicker is that they don't even get excommunicated for it.

>>509860

The only countries that do circumcisions are Jewish and Muslim ones. There are no medical benefits of it, only harm, so it's a purely religious custom.

In civilized countries it is only ever prescribed medically in cases of extreme phimosis or penis infection.

>>509861

It is, though to a much lesser extent. Unless we're talking about tunnels, cutting off earlobes, scarification or something like that, this radical shit is on par with circumcision.

>>509914

>Since you never denied that you raped and killed that 7 year old, it is to be assumed you did it

That's not how it works at all, silly.

Most people in this context (circumcision discussion on furry imageboards) don't, to my knowledge, support the rape and killing of 7 year olds.

Most people who support circumcision support the circumcision of children (and as far as i know most people against it aren't against letting consenting adults have it done, the issue arises when it happens to children who can't undo it if they decide they dislike it as adults.)

Context is very important, lad. unless you're against the assumption that being on a furry imageboard, you're probably male, a furry. Do you feel you need to specifically state "male furry" here before every post? of course not. On the other hand if we were on say, a forum for trainspotters it would be unreasonable to assume the vast majority of users were furries. (still male though, probably even more % male than furry imageboards tbh.)

>>509927

>The only countries that do circumcisions are Jewish and Muslim ones

>implying the US, UK, and Australia are jewish

Oy vey!

>no medical benefits

reduced STDs and no smegma buildup, read the few posts above before you make an ass of yourself.

viper.youcantread

>It is, though to a much lesser extent

Opinions, child.

>>509930

>Most people in this context (circumcision discussion on furry imageboards) don't, to my knowledge, support the rape and killing of 7 year olds

Technically that's just an assumption but you missed the point entirely; you can't assume someone is for or against something unless you have evidence, there were no claims of pro or anti circumcision, so your stance of "proof" by lacking a concrete answer amounts to an appeal to ignorance, which is a logical fallacy. hope you learned something today.

sage

>>509927

>no medical benefits

>>509905

>>509957

>so your stance of "proof" by lacking a concrete answer amounts to an appeal to ignorance

but that's not the case at all

>most trains are freight trains, i can't make out what kind of train that is, but i'm going to guess it's most likely a freight train!

>it could be a passenger train! you don't KNOW it's a freight train, saying it's probably a freight train until proven otherwise is an appeal to ignorance!

context provides small amounts of evidence with which to make reasonable assumptions. those assumptions do not have to be 100% logically sound to be correct often enough to make reliable heuristics. remember: just because it's a logical fallacy doesn't mean it's wrong, that viewpoint is in itself a fallacy!

also

>applying formal logic to a pissing contest on a forum

pot kek mate

>>509702

> we like furries because they're cute, sexy, and idealized; if this wasn't true and we didn't base our romantic/sexual attractions on looks alone

Mostly an excellent point, but I just want to note that you are wrong about one thing here: I imagine those idealized perfect looking furry girls with idealized personalities too.

Also while it's been a while, I am not at all opposed to sex with actual 3D humans.

I am circumcised and I don't really mind it. I despise having had that choice taken from me and I would never dream of doing that to my children. I must say though, I definitely enjoy the sight of a cut dick more myself. I can deal with a natural penis but I don't prefer how it looks.

Currently going to begin the restoration process. Wish me luck anons.

>>510036

we should go out together sometime

>>510042

it will never be the same, anon

>>509702

Most of those studies arguing the STD link come from Africa, because of the recent surge of circumcision there, and don't account for things like urbanization and basic bathing habits. People who are circumcised are much more likely to live in the more civilized areas and are aware of STD's.

Even when they do those charity jew-cedures in the tribal areas, they also educate them about STDs, this new knowledge results in safer practices.

All of the ability to contract STD's comes from the lack of hygiene. Daily bathing negates every alleged increase in STDs. Some don't bathe daily.

But to not distinguish those people and say I still have X-amount of chance to get a certain disease is like saying I, as a human, am about 50% likely to experience menopause.

This is why the WHO recommends it for Africa but not Europe, because in liew of regular bathing access/habits it overall prevents disease. Just like in the malaria-rampant areas having sickle cell disease actually has an average increase in life expectancy.

Do you have a shower? Congratulations, circumcision is outdated.

>but the CDC recommends it for Americans.

The same CDC that used African studies to claim a 1:1 relation that we would also see the same percentage reduction in those diseases if we adopted that policy.

Anything that isn't imminent-disaster / national security disease prevention at the CDC is heavily underfunded, full of under-qualified people who despite knowing medicine, don't know shit about real-world control variables.

>>510053

>i know more than the CDC

you were doing so well, 6.5/10

>>510068

I already said that I'm not from here. I am not a furry.

>>510079

shut up furry

>>510079

If you're not on board the Trump Train don't waste my time.

>>510094

I'd be more disappointed if you weren't from /pol/

>>509702

>smegma buildup

>anon confirming he doesn't shower regularly

>>510102

Can I get you to like humans again?

Liking cock is good in my book though.

>>510105

Never disliked humans. Never made a fursuit or went to a convention. Never bought furry art. Just enjoy the creative work and porn furries make. I'm glad I'm not as far gone as many people here. Hell I haven't even gone to see Zootopia and I don't plan on it. Man it feels good to be on the sperg high ground.

>>510108

That's good. I also sometimes fapped to furry porn, but more as a side effect of looking up rule34.

I havent even watched the first movie before Zootopia (was there even one?), its not my cup of tea either.

So you are probably american or from europe as well?

I want to see

>>510112

American of course. Europe has gone to shit and I'd be dead if I spoke my mind there.

>>510112

Wait what does "I want to see" mean?

>>510181

Welp, looks like I've got a new fetish

>>510135

Am I? I mean when I search for rule 34 I get weirded out sometimes from the weird things that are out there.

(who the hell faps to gore?)

And while just look at the threads that exist here, I wager that you are responsible for those types of fetishes existing.

>>510114

aww, too bad

>>510128

no idea, I was sleeping in between typing this message and the last one

I can't remember what I wanted to say anymore.

>>510206

So back on topic, I understand that you're against circumcision, but are you cut yourself? I would assume you aren't as a European.

>>509984

That would've been fine if you didn't imply the post was infant pro-circumcision, if you had said most-likely that's a different argument but since you DID state that statement without proof it is a fallacy, and while the fallacy itself doesn't make the argument invalid, you were still wrong.

and hell, what "context" is this supposed to be? I was talking about circumcision and suddenly you were convinced I was pro-ionfant circumcision while talking neutrally about a topic. Do you assume your history professors are nazis because they talk about Hitler?

>>510090

Technically it's not bait because I was being serious.

>>510094

Not that guy but the question should be are you from /pol/, but rather, are you a stormtard?

>>510101

I do shower you nigger but since I'm circumcised I don't have smegma

>>510218

*should not be

sage doublepost

>>510214

> I understand that you're against circumcision, but are you cut yourself?

More like this, friend:

>>509410

>I would assume you aren't as a European.

Yeah, that makes sense.

>>510218

>>510219

Just don't get too mad at something you can't change, it just seems like wasted energy and I'm not one for drowning in mysery like the /r9k/ crowd

>>510220

I've honestly never heard of the folding method before. I need to research it more now.

>>510222

Does it look any different than a normally circumcised penis? Since I never had a foreskin myself I find this difficult to visualize. Was it folded inside or outside?

>>510218

>if you had said most-likely that's a different argument but since you DID state that statement without proof it is a fallacy

are you (a) autistic or (b) a computer programming language?

if you're neither, you should be able to see that "most likely/probable" and "this is the case" are remarkably interchangeable in imageboard pissing contests.

>Do you assume your history professors are nazis because they talk about Hitler?

are most people who talk about hitler pro-hitler? no, are most people who talk positively about circumcision (especially online) pro infant-circumcision? yes.

>and while the fallacy itself doesn't make the argument invalid, you were still wrong.

i was wrong, it was still reasonable to make the assumption that i did based on the information available.

i reiterate: almost nobody is against allowing adults to voluntarily have themselves circumcised. they might not think it's a good idea, but nobody would care enough to argue against it if they didn't have the thought of "holy shit my cock could've been mutilated when i was a child" in their head.

>>510224

>Was it folded inside or outside?

I am 99% sure it was folded outside.

The doctor did that, I can't imagine he could have done it the other way around.

>Does it look any different than a normally circumcised penis?

Not really, there is no scar ofc. A question though. Can a circumcised penis still move their skin up and down or is the skin closely connected together with the penis under it?

>>510225

That's a good attitude then. You can't really change it.

>inb4 foreskin restoration operation

>>510227

Like someone else previously mentioned, it depends on where the cut was preformed. Mine, for example, doesn't naturally cover the glans, but rather folds up directly underneath it. So there's enough skin to stretch over the bead when I want it to.the scar itself is very obvious, about a quarter of the way down the shaft.

>>510229

>Why would I want to? cut is master race

Thanks mate, too bad I don't live in your country.

>>510230

Ah interesting, I obviously cannot slide it up or down.

>>510237

How does that work? Was so much skin folded that you don't have much left or is it just too tight.

>>510244

>How does that work? Was so much skin folded that you don't have much left or is it just too tight.

It was folded and grew together.

It's not too tight, I can still stretch it, but not slide it up or down.

>>510229

>baseless assumption faggot

i'm just going to assume this is your first time in a circumcision bait thread if you think my assumptions are baseless.

What I'd like, is to hear from someone who was uncut and then voluntarily chose to be circumcised as an adult (over 18) for non-medical reasons, and used this as a basis for preferring cut as a rule.

Because it's pretty fucking easy to be pro-cut when you never had a choice. That's like saying that you prefer people in whatever race you are over all the others. I've seen plenty of men circumcised at birth who think it's better than uncut, and plenty who were as well who think it is not. Every uncut man I've ever talked to has thought it is better (if they have a preference at all), but never once have I encountered one who thought cut was better.

While it's probably extremely uncommon, there must be at least a few just by virtue of the wide range of human psychological traits. After all, there are some white people who think being black is better, even when confronted with all the world's racism and historical persecution thereof.

So where's my fully documented, explicit video series of a man with a normal, fully-functional (non-phimotic) penis who goes into surgery to have his foreskin removed, and then later talks about how much better his sex-life is or how much more he enjoys masturbating (or, alternately, that everything still feels the same)? Surely, in this "information age", there must be something like this floating around if it's ever happened.

I feel this might help settle the debate once and for all so long as the man in question wasn't obviously cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

>>510305

there is no need to end the debate, there never was one

please just accept us ;_;

>>510329

I cant slide it up and down.

>not being cut and uncut at the same time

fucking plebs

>>511405

no multiboxing on fursonas

>>511405

But I am.

I'm uncut, and if I pull back my foreskin, now I'm cut! Look at that! It's so easy.

>>509313

>>509410

>>509431

We all gonna make it, anons

>>509092

The fuck are you on about OP

>tfw cut and I have a bf who isn't and doesn't care

best of both worlds tbh

>>511640

are you poly?

>>511745

I can masturbate without any lube.

>With my hands and just spit

>into my pants

>into my towel

>into my underwear

only problem is that it's not really working that great when just using hands and spit, not really satisfying

I need your help, anon. I want to properly train for sex by experiencing friction on my penis.

You think you can help me, hmm?

>>511780

>tfw cut

>wish was uncut

>can still masturbate straight dry

>>511780

Step 1: Stop using your dick.

Step 2: Get a good anal dildo

Step 3: Fuck your ass and forget your dick.

It's better.

>>511790

This. All cutfags should be bottoms.

It's not like they can experience any pleasure from their dicklets anyway.

>>511790

sorry, I am just not into that

>>511792

Oh I can definetly experience pleasure from that. Have you played Corruption of Champions and ever transformed into a centaur?

Those creautes can't reach their own penis anymore and can't masturbate anymore.

I can kinda relate to that, I really need someone to help me properly relief myself.

So why don't you 2 start bottoming for me?

>>511794

Actually horses do masturbate by flopping their dicks, it hits the belly and they can get orgasms from that.

>>511792

>>511896

now fug

fight fuck to prove your dominance

>>511896

Do you get pleasure from being filled with p0z juiсe or from being fucked?

>>509317

desheathe the penis

>>512272

circumcision prevents phimosis as well

>Cutting off your foreskin to prevent smegma is like cutting off your toes to prevent toenail fungus

it's really not the same thing, whereas one is cutting off something you live relatively fine without, the other is cutting off something potentially very viable to your life.

>>512283

>implying furfags were going to get laid in the first place

But no seriously there's really no difference in pleasure. Get over yourself.

>>509092

I think cut dicks are pretty hot tbh, nothing against them. cock elitists gtfo

>>512304

I'm not pro-infant circumcision if that's what you're >implying

>Toes aren't that important. They only marginally help with balance.

That depends on your profession really. Maybe if you work a desk job then sure.

>>512289

>there's really no difference in pleasure.

How would you know?

I think that parents should decide whether or not surgically removing the most sensitive part of their child's penis is in his best interest given the cultural context, and proceed based on that information.

>>512362

Because anatomically all the pleasure is focused in the glans and a small area beneath the glans. So as long as your glans is intact you're not missing out on anything.

>b-b-but m-m-muh extra nerve endings…

You're not using them in the pleasure area anyway, so it makes no difference. If anything I tried jacking it up and down and that shit was too much of a hassle, I prefer rubbing it side-to-side, it's more pleasurable and doesn't take a century to cum

if an argument over a single piece of skin on a male can go on for so long, i can only imagine what discussions over vaginas, with their infinite variations (most of them fucking disgusting looking tbqh, and i say that as a straight guy) are like

>>512412

Also it's less about the dick itself and more about the actual orgasm; releasing neurotransmitters from your brain. So unless someone really fucked up your head permanently you can still get all the pleasure an orgasm releases from that.

>>512404

I think children are not living property of their parents in any context, and that parents do not have the right to raise children "their way", mutilating their bodies for what is basically fashion

The jews don't think so either. They do it for god, so if you aren't a jew and you get circumcised, it's like your parents blowing off your harm and scooping out your eye at birth because they liked homestuck and thought you would grow up to look like tersi sekrets.

>>512412

I can't even begin to describe how unbelievably stupid you are, but for starters, re-refer to this: >>512272

I do like how you agree that there's extra nerve endings in the foreskin, but then claim they don't actually provide pleasure. What are they there for? Decoration…?

>>512473

You're retarded, again they're not really being used.

The pleasure is not different, so fuck off. All the pleasure areas is located in the glans and the area directly below. Learn to read.

>What are they there for?

Who gives a shit? I made my point.

>>512473

Sensitivity =/= Pleasure

>>512404

>treating your own infant like a Frankenstein monster should be OK if you're a parent

Fuck off.

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>>512708

>>512820

Can never look at this the same way again after running into vladimirs video on youtube of real life circumcision talking it away as fun and normal in the comments. Disgusting.

>>512859

>short foreskin

You're doing it wrong. But the demonstration is apt of course

>>512859

Jesus Christ that's horrifying ;w;

gas the kikes

>>512868

I think that the foreskin is just rolled back… It's not short, or anything.

>cut

>dick gets so dry the tip gets white and flaky

I'm dead inside

>>512859

Careful not to get biased, there is a good and bad side to both. In the case of severe phimosis I see no issue of circumcising. But doing it to healthy dicks isnt worth the botched circumcisions and even resulting deaths.

That said, there's good looking cut dicks and good lucking uncut dicks, and then theres smelly turtlenecks and infected stumps.

>>513004

Phimosis can be easily fixed with stretching in most cases. It's painful and it can take a couple months, but it's a much more preferable treatment than dick mutilation.

>>513016

I take personal experience over biased studies that play with words to get around the hypothesis. Cutfags need lube to get off and spend sometimes an hour fapping, and they complain about it themselves. I get off in 30 seconds when horny just by sliding the sleeve. It's pretty clear to me.

>>513008

Depends how severe it is. In some cases the phimosis is so bad infections happened and to protect the urinary tract and allow proper peeing, they do a circumcision.

>>513024

Circumcision should be reserved to those extreme cases only.

>>513008

I had phimosis, it took a bit of bleeding and painful stretching as a 10 year old but I thank myself every time I see a cut dick that I never went for the other option.

They just look dry, and not healthy at all.

>>513051

jew :^)

>>513051

>in your underwear

yes because fabric is such an effective lubricant

>>513023

Isn't pounding your partner longer a good thing?

>>513105

>If you are an adult and you decide of your own free will to get circumcised

This has never happened, so far as I know; therefore there has never been an uncut man who wanted to be cut. If they do exist, they're not vocal about it and in almost nonexistent numbers.

However, MANY MANY cut men wish they could be uncut (possibly as many as half, from my experience, at least as a passing thought that isn't very serious) and there is an entire industry and community based around "restoration" for those millions who are serious. For those many who have successfully "restored", they universally report more sensitivity and better sexual enjoyment, especially in cases of an extremely tight circumcision that resulted in painful sex.

If there really is no difference between cut and uncut, how can this be explained? Are any of you going to claim they have been duped by "uncut propaganda" and then turn around and claim that "cut propaganda" doesn't therefore exist?

May I remind you that infant circumcision is a BUSINESS. Hospitals and doctors are PAID to circumcise babies, and make even more money selling the discarded foreskins to companies which use them to culture collagen for skin-care creams. Don't believe me? Look it up, yourself. We all know that money makes good men evil, makes smart people stupid, starts wars and genocides thousands; money makes the fucking world go 'round and often not for the better.

But who's getting paid to help men "restore"? Where's the incredible financial incentive that would cause such a community to develop? Sure, there are little devices you can buy, but compared to the hundreds to dollars it costs for a circumcision operation, it's nothing; for the most part these are men advising each other on how it can be done for free with household items like tape.

How can any of you explain this, if there really is no difference?

Damn, chan culture will use ANYthing outside of a person's control to discriminate against them.

I guess if the popular thing to do was judge people based on merit and ability, you'd be lacking, huh OP?

If you can't win, move the goal post.

>>513111

That's what's funny about these cutfags; if we actually waited until they were an adult, no one in their right mind would agree to a circumcision!

>Alright son, now that your 18, it's time to chop off the end of you dick. This will make you marginally less likely to catch STDs, and the existence of condoms definitely does not make that fact irrelevant.

>>513144

This isn't about a superiority complex. OP is most likely cut himself. He doesn't view circumcised men as lesser, but as victims of a stupid and useless medical procedure that they never asked for, and that does more harm than good. As for why he decided to voice his concerns on the furry board? Fuck if I know.

>>513111

I'm the anon you replied to. I am on your side. I was disagreeing with the claim the mutilation was a buzzword. Sorry if my wording was too ambiguous.

>>513207

>no one in their right mind would agree to a circumcision!

I had to on grounds of phimosis.

Guess my dick was too huge for my foreskin hahahahahahahahahaactually I regret it everyday since I basically had a chance to do something about it before resorting to circumcision, but didn't do it since I thought it wasn't a problem. Fucking shattered my sexual confidence.

>>513207

The "lesser chance of STDs" thing always makes me scratch my head.

If it was conclusively proven that working out a lot and getting really tough muscles in the chest provided a small increase in the resistance of said chest to bullets, would you run into a war zone without a bulletproof vest just because you worked out? No…?

>>513111

>well *I* certainly don't know anyone who was uncut who didn't want to be cut so they must not exist

>*I* personally think alot of cuts would want to be uncut even though I haven't seen them so that's probably what they think

>*I* think there have been studies that I haven't seen where cuts say their sex isn't as good as being uncut so they probably exist and are true

>I didn't see any of these and I don't believe it, so my viewpoint is correct!

Appeal to incredulity/10

>>513266

Nigger it's not the same thing. Reduced STDs is one out of a multitude of reasons for circumcision, rather than a main point.

Add to that the places that mainly practice circumcision are places that condoms aren't readily available and you have a makeshift prevention method from STDs.

>>513296

It's actually the only reason anyone talks about anymore, considering every other "reason" has either been disproven or is an aesthetic concern. As a matter of fact, most people in this thread don't have any reason for a "why", and have retreated back to a claim that there's just no difference in function so "why not".

Also, any place that has doctors willing to do circumcisions can also just have them hand out condoms by the bucketful. The problem was that the dumb niggers either were too stupid to use them properly or didn't want to.

Either way, it's irrelevant because we're talking about routine infant circumcision in places like the USA. In Africa it's probably for the best if they tell the men they're going to circumcise them and then instead castrate them.

>>513313

In that case we may as well stop arguing because it's a group consensus that infant circumcision is bad.

At least until some contrarian comes along, and on /furry/ that should be readily available.

>>513313

Gunna disagree, there's more benefits beyond "why not" but there's no functional difference in the end, I think uncuts are just butthurt for no reason.

>In Africa it's probably for the best if they tell the men they're going to circumcise them and then instead castrate them.

ow the edge.

>The results of the first research that proved circumcision lowering the chance of spreading AIDS/STDs haven't been able to be reproduced

>>513323

Well, sleeping with a cut guy certainly leaves a bit more soreness when you're bottoming than uncut, so butthurt is right. It's a mild difference, but something I've noticed.

If you ask some women friends about it who have slept uncut and cut, they'll tell you the same thing. Has to do with microtears. Not that I'm complaining, I certainly love all my cut friends as much as I love my uncut friends.

Though I will admit I like giving handjobs to uncut guys more. I like giving oral to cut guys more.

>>513436

first of all:

let's be friends

and:

>Though I will admit I like giving handjobs to uncut guys more. I like giving oral to cut guys more.

Same here in terms of receiving. I rather get a blow than a handjob.

Probably has to do something with being cut,

>Well, sleeping with a cut guy certainly leaves a bit more soreness when you're bottoming than uncut, so butthurt is right. It's a mild difference, but something I've noticed.

That is actually pretty interesting.

Maybe it could also just be, because we can last longer?

why do you fags argue about dicks so much when you never use yours anyway :^)

>>513437

>Maybe it could also just be, because we can last longer

It's because the foreskin moves up and down during thrusting and this provides a sort-of gliding action. There's not very much direct friction between the penis and what it's inside because of this. I've also noticed that it takes a lot more lubricant because the edge of a cut guy's head kinda scoops the lube out, which may contribute (and also makes a hell of a mess). Not that I've ever noticed any soreness, even after hours-long sex; but that might just be because I've been sticking thing in my butt since I was in kindergarten.

>>513444

Trips for undeniable truth.

>>513463

wew WEW

I want to stick my penis in your butt if I am being honest.

>>513444 (checked)

>why do you fags argue about dicks so much when others never use yours anyway :^)

Fixed

Well I heard an anecdote from a hooker that uncut guys were too sensitive to give BJs too, their glans couldn't take the stimulation overload. Take that for what it is.

>>513428

>The research gathered data from 22 groups in different countries but ignored the results of all but 9

>The experiment also did not take into consideration the 30 day healing period of the circumcised subjects, and instead just noted that the circumcised subjects started getting diseases about a whole month later than the uncircumcised subjects, obviously meaning they must've developed a whopping 1.6% immunity to stds thanks to the surgery

>>513463

Hm.

Does this mean that cut penises are far more effective at scooping the opponent male sperm out of the vagina in gangbang situations?

Are cuts far more efficient and optimal gangbangers?

>>513051

>stop making shit up to feel better about yourself.

Why would believing that my parents willingly mutilated my genitals at birth make me feel good? In what fucking alternate universe would raise my self-esteem?

>>513525

Whatever. What you said was still bullshit though.

>>513508

Theoretically, yes.

You'd think this would mean that shorter and shorter foreskins would be highly evolutionarily selected for, since monogamy is an incredibly recent invention of humans compared to the history of hominids.

So having a foreskin must be very evolutionarily advantageous for some reason compared to not if millions of years of evolution put one on humans (as monkeys don't have them) and then left them there. Nature isn't stupid, which is yet another reason why the idea that "there is no difference" must be completely wrong.

>>513659

Penectomy > Gelding

>>513323

>there's more benefits beyond "why not"

There aren't any, otherwise you'd have enumerated them.

>there's no functional difference in the end

There is a significant difference.

>>513437

>Maybe it could also just be, because we can last longer?

Cut guys are more likely to suffer from premature ejaculation an erectile dysfunction.

Oh, and this too for all you attempting to defend male genital multilation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

>>513919

>There aren't any, otherwise you'd have enumerated them.

>There is a significant difference.

PROTIP: Cool brahs read entire threads before posting in them.

Spoonfeeding is frowned upon.

>>513924

>Cool brahs read entire threads before posting in them

Nobody's mentioned anything besides the STD thing, "eww, gross, smegma!", and some half-hearted mumblings about phimosis which stops when someone counters that it can be solved with stretching most of the time (and in cases where it cannot, a doctor can prescribe a steroid cream to aid the stretching, and if this still does not work, surgery to make a VERY SMALL cut in the ring of muscle at the tip of the foreskin can be done; a full circumcision is never required).

>>513943

>if I downplay it that'll make me right!

Then I guess that's your opinion if you don't like the benefits. Like I said, there's really no difference. Quit complaining.

>surgery to make a VERY SMALL cut

I think you underestimate the actual cut length of a dorsal slit.

>>513962

>there's really no difference

Then why do it?

All shitposting aside, I think these threads are often made more for drumming up discussion on the ethics of strapping a newborn down and cutting part of their dick off. I, and probably the majority of people against it here, are cut and displeased with it. So we try to get others to see how fucked up of a situation it is.

This shouldn't be a "cut vs uncut" fuckfest, it should be an everybody that likes dicks, or even just their own dick, against the current dick lopping establishment. The procedure should be banned for children, 16 or 18 or whatever. After that age they can pay someone to remove whatever.

An infant has all the parts there, but they are nowhere near fully developed. If they are left to make the choice for themselves after puberty, it would probably have much better results and lower chances of serious fuck-ups. I've personally seen some circumcisions that made me gagcarved out frenulums, skin bridges, even a deep cut right through the middle of the glans

The doctors that are currently profiting so highly from it now would also be much easier to hold accountable. Right now they rush through it, more procedures, more money, and the parents probably wont ever notice or have the sense to get it looked at. The kid might want blood a decade or two later, but the docs probably retired by then.

It's not like anybody would willingly want less penis anyways. Also, JEWS

>>514233

>It's not like anybody would willingly want less penis anyways.

>>510181

>>510203

>>511312

>>513759

>>509313

>>512283

At least we can't miss something we've never had

>>514144

That should be up for decision by whoever is considering it.

As for me I don't care I'm not going to fuck anyway and the thought of smegma is disgusting, plus I don't like how uncuts look.

>>514697

>tfw everyone who's uncut doesn't care enough to make other people not circumcise their kids at birth

If by cutting off my own foreskin, I could somehow prevent any other infants from ever being circumcised, I would do it. But nothing I could do will ever help.

Three years ago when my cousin and his wife had a baby boy, they had him circumcised, even though none of the men in our side of the family is. I was appalled when I heard it had happened, because I'm very close with my cousin's wife, and she respects my intelligence. There exists the possibility that I might have been able to convince her not to have it done, but of course I was never asked. The doctors told her to have it done, so she had it done (and the men on her side of the family are all cut, so she thinks there is no difference). It took me a long time to get over it. When the boy was still less than a year old, he got frequent mild infections/rashes on his exposed glans, and the doctors told her it was normal; she told me about it one day while changing him, and you can't possibly understand my feelings at that moment. It took all of my willpower to contain my anger and frustration and urge to just unload on her the truth of what she'd done.

It still hurts my heart whenever I see him. He's still near a decade from finding out what his penis can do for him, and it's not like it's really my fucking business, but still. I'm the youngest in the family apart from him, and he looks up to me more and more as the years are going by. He has all my old toys and I'm gradually giving him my books; I'm the greatest influence in his life outside his parents; I'm the smart and gentle and introverted one; should he turn out gay by some 5% chance, I'll be the only one in the entire family he can look to for support and understanding. I feel like I've somehow failed him… if only she'd talked about it, mentioned it in the days before his birth or immediately after it… maybe I could have stopped it. I feel like I've watched someone die in front of me and done nothing to help. One of these days he's going to find out the truth about what happened, and I hope he doesn't hate his parents for it; and most of all I hope to Christ he doesn't ask me, first.

They're having another baby in a couple months. It's a girl. I was very happy when I found out, because it means I won't have to face that choice. If it were another boy, I'd have to decide whether to confront the parents about circumcision, and convince them to not do it again, (knowing full well that this may result in the older brother forever hating the younger for what he lacks); or worse yet, choose to stand by and let it happen again. But it's a girl. I know for sure nobody will take a knife to her genitals. One less mutilated baby for the world; thank whatever God you believe in for that.

Just don't tell me I'm not doing anything. That hurts.

>>514709

Hold your horses pal, when I said everyone, I didn't mean literally everyone. This very thread goes to show that there are people who care one way or another on the matter. If I really did mean literally no cut person cares, then what am I?

My frustration there was just over the general ignorance and apathy towards the subject by most people. I'm talking about people like the mom in your story, who didn't listen to what you said, because if the rest of her family is like cut, then it surely can't be so bad.

When I was first mentioning circumcision with to my gf, she was originally in favor of it, just because she thought it looked better. She didn't even realize that it had any sort of effect at all on the penis other than how it looks. She's changed her mind on the subject since then thankfully.

I hand wrote a letter to send to my local congress person on the matter, but the bitch didn't even have the courtesy to send me a generic "we value your feedback" response.

It's just everyone sticks with the status quo of cutting their kids here in the US, but no one wants to talk about or hear about dicks like this, so nothing gets done.